[00:02] <c4iff> Having an intermittent issue in 13.10 and I think it's partly because I"m not understanding a few key concepts in how gnome mounts an iPAD,  mainly what is responsible for auto mounting in file manager, seems that whatever in the gui mounts the device doesn't work some of the time and when I mount it when ifuse manually it doesn't have some key directories that are available via the automounter
[00:08] <xubuntu525> hello
[00:09] <Unit193> !hi
[03:39] <zack_> Hi, does anyone knows how to re-image Xubuntu 12.04+ systems?
[03:40] <zack_> I want to add some customized software and settings into the system, I have tried UCK, but it can't include all the settings I want
[03:41] <fibz_> easiest to use is a live system called Redo! Backup & Restore (great for fixing downed systems too) www.redobackup.org
[03:42] <zack_> @fibz, can i install this system later into other machines?
[03:42] <fibz_> can get hairy if the systems are too dissimilar though
[03:45] <zack_> I know that there are a lot of ubuntu based systems, such as Linux Mint, anyone knows how they are made?
[03:45] <zack_> i think i can use the same way they used to customize and save the system
[03:46] <fibz_> sqashfs and your apt repo
[03:46] <zack_> any documents?
[03:46] <fibz_> and a batch script
[03:48] <zack_> i have tried UCK, i think it's also using sqashfs, but it can't save all the settings. Usually what i'm doing is to save the configuration file in the current system and put them into the new system, but it costs time and the result is not as expected
[03:51] <fibz_> ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-server i suppose
[03:51] <zack_> ok, thanks
[04:46] <xubuntuLordFox> hola
[04:46] <xubuntuLordFox> alguien habla español?
[04:52] <fibz_> try in #ubuntu-es
[05:01] <FuuqUmiist> what are the main differences between Xubuntu and Lubuntu i know that Lubuntu uses less resources
[05:02] <fibz_> xubuntu uses XFCE, lubuntu uses LXDE
[05:02] <fibz_> different artwork, different default set of applications
[05:02] <fibz_> and settings
[05:03] <FuuqUmiist> what is Xubuntu aimed for
[05:03] <holstein> not low spec hardware, necessarily
[05:03] <fibz_> low spec out of the box ready for whatever
[05:03] <holstein> xfce is not "heavy" though
[05:04] <fibz_> or if you want ubuntu and xfce
[05:21] <Kekai> Hi all
[05:23] <Kekai> Noob Xubuntu user here
[05:23] <Kekai> Program recomendations anyone?
[05:24] <Kekai> I use Chrome, Skype, Quassel, Spotify, and Nightingale in Ubuntu and wondered if they ar ein Xubuntu
[05:24] <holstein> use the defaults.. explore other options as needed
[05:24] <holstein> Kekai: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[05:24] <Kekai> ok
[05:25] <holstein> you install chrome the same way.. download the .deb file..
[05:25] <holstein> !skype
[05:25] <holstein> though, you can download a .deb file from the skype site as well..
[05:25] <Kekai> how is it on Ram usage, the OS
[05:25] <Kekai> I hear its light
[05:25] <Kekai> I only have 512mb on this netbook.
[05:25] <holstein> nothing makes your machine any faster than it is
[05:26] <holstein> xfce can be noticably lighter on resources.. but, 512 is pushing it these days..
[05:26] <holstein> not the OS, necessarily, but just normal web browsing... etc
[05:26] <Kekai> well Chrome is light
[05:27] <Kekai> I rn 100+mb/s Internet connection
[05:27] <Kekai> I might try Opera
[05:27] <holstein> chrome is not an os.. use what you like there
[05:27] <holstein> im talking about accessing the internet, generally
[05:27] <Kekai> no I meant for the browser
[05:27] <Kekai> and chrome is an OS
[05:27] <Kekai> Chromebooks
[05:27] <holstein> Kekai: thats not what i was talking about.. nor you
[05:28] <Kekai> no :3
[05:28] <Kekai> sorry
[05:28] <holstein> Kekai: you were talking about running chrom on ubuntu
[05:28] <holstein> chrome*
[05:28] <holstein> thats not the chrome os.. and its not supported here..
[05:28] <Kekai> ight internet browsers?
[05:28] <Kekai> I hear Firefox is heavy
[05:29] <Kekai> Im reading a forum and everyone is complaining FF is a resource hog
[05:29] <holstein> Kekai: its literally free to try it
[05:29] <Unit193> Depends on how many tabs you have, the more you have the worse chrome is.
[05:29] <holstein> https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/ is where you can try chrome for free
[05:30] <Unit193> (or use chromium, either way.)
[05:30] <holstein> chromium is in the default repos..
[05:30] <Unit193> Could try midori, but don't think it's 100% compatible with some sites.
[05:30] <holstein> !info chromium
[05:30] <Kekai> I hear opera is light
[05:30] <holstein> Kekai: try it as well. it is also free to try
[05:30] <Unit193> (chromium-browser)
[05:30] <Kekai> Im using 12.04 LTS Xubuntu
[05:31] <holstein> Unit193: :/
[05:33] <holstein> xfce/xubuntu is a good balance between being light and functional.. not sure what i would run with 512 of ram, though..
[05:33] <Kekai> I ran 12.04 before and it was awesome
[05:33] <Kekai> ast
[05:33] <Kekai> and load times were nearly gone
[05:33] <holstein> puppy linux is nice, since it loads in ram and runs *great* on old hardware.. but, its nice to have a balance where you have the ubuntu repositories and support community to take advantage ot
[05:34] <Kekai> I tried puppy linux
[05:34] <Kekai> not a fan
[05:34] <Kekai> Besides I have chats like this one and you guys seem nice enough to help
[05:36] <Kekai> is there a way to get rid of the title bar on windows?
[05:38] <Kekai> bbl
[05:38] <holstein> one thing i do is, i generally load up a live CD, and really tweak *everything*.. or, i'll load the guest account, or make a test user.. and see what does what. all the settings, even ones that seem like they might break something
[05:38] <holstein> http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=3429
[10:10] <kono> hi
[10:13] <kono> is apparmor @ xubuntu installed at standard install? I searched for such an app, but now I see it is already installed, I never recognized this ... it is strange
[10:14] <cfhowlett> !apparmor
[10:18] <kono> not? in my dpkg log "2013-04-23 15:06:59 install apparmor:amd64 <none> 2.8.0-0ubuntu11" this could be the time I installed xubuntu
[10:22] <kono> it is also in the last dpkg log file dpkg.log.9.gz
[10:25] <kono> I regard, what I install, so I would know that, if I installed manually
[11:55] <starrats> Good morning everyone!  I have a small problem, hope it's fixable besides reiinstall xubuntu 13-10.  Yesterday not doing it intentionally I lost the 'workspaces' boxes on top of my desktop where I had 4 litlle boxes for 4 different 'windows'.  I have tried to bring them back with the knowledge I have but to no avail, is there a way to bring them back to the top of the desktop next to my clock/date area?
[11:56] <cfhowlett> starrats, you could nuke your xfce (desktop environment) settings, logout, login and they should reset back to default
[11:57] <Sysi> or just right click on panel, find "Add new items" and add the workspace switcher back
[11:58] <Sysi> drag from the list to get it where you want
[11:58] <sandman13> how to make xfce look exactly like this: http://imgur.com/kBDpw6f
[11:59] <cfhowlett> sandman13, might want to ask the xfce channel
[12:00] <sandman13> in xubuntu?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> sandman13, xfce.org   are the experts
[12:01] <sandman13> okay cfhowlett
[12:01] <starrats> a lot of good ideas and I have not tried any of those but how do you 'nuke' your xfce (desktop environment' with out nuking the whole xubuntu 13-10, remember i am running it on VBox.
[12:02] <starrats> and where is 'Add new items'?
[12:03] <Sysi> in submenu under the pop-up menu you get when right clicking on the panl IIRC
[12:04] <cfhowlett> starrats, go to your home.  display .hidden folders.  go to .config>  delete xfce4 folder
[12:05] <starrats> ah ok cfhowlett
[12:05] <Sysi> that doesn't work, you need to do it when not logged in or the settings daemon will rewrite them when you log out
[12:05] <cfhowlett> starrats, and FYI you are ONLY deleting your desktop environment settings, NOT the entire xubuntu :)
[12:10] <starrats> okay cfhowlett
[13:05] <starrats> thanks everyone that answered my question earlier.  But I'm a noob per se and I still don't like getting into hidden files, if I could find them and doing what was sugeested.  I'm fine at this time just runing a few tabs up on top.
[15:00] <kono> @ubottu thanks
[16:46] <asd_> hi how can i buypass login screen at the beggining?
[16:51] <ochosi> asd_: bypass? you mean autologin?
[16:54] <asd_> yes autologin, i tried searching in settings but i can find solution
[16:55] <GridCube> asd_, edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[16:55] <GridCube> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[17:02] <GridCube> asd_, edit the lightdm.conf file on your directory, simply launch : gksu mousepad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[17:02] <GridCube> the option you need to add or modify is this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Autologin
[19:45] <sohail-ahmed> I am runing a program with some flags and its generating many types of error, one typical error is about indentation and this error is hiding other errors meaning the terminal do not scroll further. How can I see all the error in my terminal so that I can scroll beyond all the data?
[20:12] <krytarik> sohail-ahmed: You can either increase the scrollback of your Terminal, or redirect the output to a file: http://docs.xfce.org/apps/terminal/preferences , http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6674327/redirect-all-output-to-file
[20:31] <sohail-ahmed> thanks!!!
[21:24] <john_rambo>  Both whitelist and blacklist are disabled but I am still getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6956552/
[21:24] <john_rambo> in snort
[21:48] <ReaganomicsLambo> Hey guys, I have this external hardrive connected to my laptop and sometimes, when I move around, the disk will disconnect and remount. However, the folder I was currently viewing will appear as Null and I will get the "Open with" dialog window when the disk is remounted. Is there any way I can remount the disk so the folder I was currently viewing doesn't mount as null?
[21:48] <ReaganomicsLambo> normally the problem is fixed by logging out, but is there an easier way?
[21:48] <holstein> ReaganomicsLambo: fix the device
[21:49] <holstein> or, dont touch it when you are trying to use it
[21:52] <ReaganomicsLambo> IDK what just happened but I just right-clicked on the null folder icon that was on the root of the disk and it remounted by itself and now the folder isn't null anymore.
[21:53] <ReaganomicsLambo> Problem solved lol.
[23:33] <SonikkuAmerica> AussieDownUnder: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/light-locker-new-session-locker-for.html <<< should tell you all you need to know.
[23:38] <weems> What do I do if I login to my user and all that loads is the wallpaper? The guest account loads the UI fine
[23:45] <krytarik> weems: Try clearing your sessions cache: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159679
[23:45] <weems> ok thanks krytarik
[23:55] <weems> krytarik, still the same problem
[23:59] <krytarik> weems: What happens when you run "xfdesktop" and "xfdesktop", respectively, manually from the Terminal? Does it work, or do you get any error messages there?