[00:00] <valorie> my email had a lot of the thoughts apachelogger had about it
[00:00] <shadeslayer> oh no no
[00:00] <shadeslayer> I meant what's the software called :)
[00:02] <shadeslayer> ok, off to bed
[00:02] <shadeslayer> night
[00:02] <yofel> gn
[00:02] <valorie> there is no software yet
[00:02] <shadeslayer> from #debian-devel : Maulkin says jessie+1 is "zurg" (but might lie) << I'd totally run  a "zurg" release
[00:38] <ahoneybun> hello people
[00:49] <ahoneybun> oh 4.12.2 in the backports!
[00:50] <manchicken> Man, sometimes work sucks
[00:50] <ahoneybun> manchicken: agreed
[00:55] <valorie> last thought on automation is of course xkcd: http://xkcd.com/1319/
[00:55]  * ahoneybun wonders if he should format his / with a 14.04 iso or try a dist-upgrade
[00:55] <ahoneybun> hey valorie
[00:55] <valorie> hi
[00:55] <valorie> upgrade worked on my other laptop
[00:56] <valorie> still on saucy on this one
[00:56] <valorie> sec, laundry
[00:56] <ahoneybun> I finally took my notebook out of the house lol
[01:17] <manchicken> Okay, I'll have apachelogger's changes to libqapt committed tonight.
[01:17] <manchicken> It's the only chance I had today to do something useful. The rest of the day just feels wasted.
[03:20]  * genii sips
[03:21] <genii> 14.04 Alpha2 install screen: "Welcome to Kubuntu 13.10!" 
[04:26] <ScottK> apachelogger: Got the patch now.  Didn't do anything with it yet.  Thanks.
[04:44] <soee> new NM landed in trusty ?
[04:46] <ahoneybun> soee: networkmanager?
[04:46] <soee> ahoneybun: yes :)
[04:46] <soee> i see the new interface, icon etc :)
[04:47] <ahoneybun> I thought kde has it's own manager
[04:49] <soee> ahoneybun: yesh im talking about new interface -> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=119742
[04:49] <ahoneybun> that is nice
[04:50] <ahoneybun> I was just getting used to the new one (to me)
[04:51] <soee> :)
[04:57] <ahoneybun> soee: http://www.debian.org/
[04:58] <ahoneybun> sorry
[04:58] <ahoneybun> http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/
[04:59] <soee> ah nice :) 
[05:00] <soee> +3 (responsive desing, overall appearance, affixed menu)
[05:01] <soee> building with WP ?
[05:01] <ahoneybun> yea
[05:01] <ahoneybun> g2g
[05:01] <ahoneybun> sleep
[05:02] <soee> also it uses: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
[05:02] <soee> i think html5 should be used :)
[05:02] <soee> to follow modern design and coding :) 
[05:03] <soee> <!DOCTYPE html>
[05:03] <soee> but this might have influance how site looks on older browsers (IE)
[06:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:35] <apachelogger> Riddelll: QDBusConnection: error: could not send message to service "org.kubuntu.qaptworker2" path "Process /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper received signal 6" interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member "GetAll": Invalid object path: Process /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper received signal 6
[08:35] <apachelogger> Riddelll: your dbus appears slightly broken
[09:13] <Riddelll> anyony replied to "Svetlana Gulotta" about cantor? I'm not sure what she's on about
[09:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kde-workspace got built
[09:24] <jussi> Hrm, wheres agateau when I need him... 
[09:24] <Riddell> skiing in the alps
[09:24] <jussi> oh, well thats not really acceptable is it? :P :P 
[09:24] <Riddell> I think it's pretty acceptable to him :)
[09:26] <jussi> hehe, likely
[09:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: this system notification helper says hardware support is incomplete whenever I log in
[09:32] <Riddell> apachelogger: do we need to package libkubuntu and notification helper for FF?
[09:40] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes, if you have time you could probably do libkubuntu already, that should be relatively complete
[09:40] <apachelogger> notification thingum is from my side feature complete, dunno about shadeslayer's
[09:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: oh yeah, about the notifications, note that they will only appear after around 3 minutes
[09:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why is there a builddep on qapt now btw?
[09:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: and please move you dbus foo into your event directory
[09:59] <apachelogger> oh
[09:59] <apachelogger> Riddell: we'll have to wait with libkubuntu
[10:00] <apachelogger> I think I might need an additional constructor to get from qlocale to Kubuntu::Language
[10:13] <apachelogger> or perhaps we should nevermind qlocale and getenv instead, because qlocale is even dumber than posix locale and hides the variant completel
[10:14] <apachelogger> so ca_ES.UTF-8@valencia becomes ca_ES in qlocale
[10:14]  * apachelogger sighs a bit and draws some graphs
[10:15] <Riddell> apachelogger: will it be ready in time for FF?
[10:17] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah
[10:17] <apachelogger> though I am not sure we'll want to enhance libkubuntu for this anyway
[10:18] <apachelogger> or maybe, I am not sure yet
[10:19] <apachelogger> we'd basically need an inverse version of Language::systemLocale, i.e. deduce the original KDE language from a posix locale which in turn is a messy thing with lots of special handling, so perhaps it ought to be best to do a simple format conversion between the two code formats and then regex for best match or something
[10:19] <apachelogger> there is no 100% mapping anyway
[10:37] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/ktw8U59.jpg
[10:38] <apachelogger> so IMO it would be best to have the kded check Language_Country@Variant > Language@Variant > Language_Country > Language for a match in that order
[10:39] <apachelogger> that should(tm) give the best appropximation of things
[10:39]  * apachelogger just needs to find a way to make that stuff not so expensive ^^
[10:57] <apachelogger> there mgiht be problems with en_US fwiw
[10:57] <apachelogger> in a more general sense
[10:57] <apachelogger> since ubuntu considers en_US to be part of the en pack, if they have a documentation package for en that might not get installed when one only uses en_US
[11:17] <jarkko_> http://pastebin.com/ZC72hXtf
[11:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ack
[11:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: does "Never show again" not work?
[11:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: qapt is required because I need to check if a package is already installed
[11:42] <apachelogger> sounds badly architectured to me
[11:52] <nonickname2> hi. could maybe someone have a look at bug #1233662 for 14.04? this should probably not go into an lts release ... (possibly needs packaging qt creator 3.x though)
[12:04] <apachelogger> either my kate is kaput or drivermanager_dbus is something of a strange thing
[12:09] <apachelogger> oohhhh
[12:09] <apachelogger> python is just weird
[12:10] <apachelogger> {'/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0': {'modalias': 'pci:v000010DEd00001185sv000010DEsd0000098Abc03sc00i00', 'vendor': 'NVIDIA Corporation', 'model': 'GK104 [GeForce GTX 660 OEM]', 'drivers': {'nvidia-304': {'free': False, 'from_distro': True, 'recommended': False}, 'nvidia-304-updates': {'free': False, 'from_distro': True, 'recommended': False}, 'xserver-xorg-video-nouveau': {'free': True, 'builtin': True, 'from_distro': True, 
[12:10] <apachelogger> 'recommended': False}, 'nvidia-331': {'free': False, 'from_distro': True, 'recommended': True}, 'nvidia-331-updates': {'free': False, 'from_distro': True, 'recommended': False}}}}
[12:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what I don't get is, if ubuntu-drivers already needs to query the apt cache for matching packages, why does it not simply check if those packages are installed and adds that information 
[12:11] <apachelogger> seems very silly TBH
[12:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer: it shouldn't show in the first place!
[12:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes, that is quite weird tbh
[12:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: report a bug
[12:13] <apachelogger> like I have nothing better to do
[12:13] <shadeslayer> nope
[12:13] <apachelogger> good stuff
[12:15] <Riddell> Blizzz: alles gute
[12:16] <Blizzz> Riddell: thank you :)
[12:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you test KDE Workspace 4.12.6 on Precise?
[12:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: and no https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam-kwallet ? :(
[12:28] <apachelogger> Riddell: please paste `kreadconfig --group Locale --key Language`
[12:29] <snele> guys I am running 14.04 for about 20 days and muon updater never pops up in systray to inform me about available updates
[12:29] <snele> when I manually start it, it starts with this wierd screen: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/Y/ai/1SYwwV25/snapshot14.png
[12:30] <snele> but I check for updates few times a day
[12:30] <snele> should I report a bug?
[12:30] <shadeslayer> snele: press ctrl + r ?
[12:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: "or you simply use your existing python dbus daemon" < python dbus daemon has no root privilliges
[12:38] <snele> shadeslayer: every time you start muon updater that screen pops up and then quickly goes away. It deasn't matter if you do a refresh
[12:39] <apachelogger> oh my
[12:39] <apachelogger> cannot be changed I guess
[12:39] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6959718/
[12:40] <apachelogger> that should now detect missing packages on all systems
[12:41] <jussi> package waiting for me at the post office with new shirts :)
[12:43] <apachelogger> nice
[12:43] <apachelogger> snele: what is the screen replaced with?
[12:45] <snele> apachelogger: it shows available updates
[12:45] <apachelogger> what's the bug then? :P
[12:46] <snele> apachelogger: the bug is that it never, not even ones for 20 days informed me about available updates in systray
[12:46] <jussi> apachelogger: I think snele is complaining that the automatic updater that checks for them  (usually on boot) is not running
[12:46] <snele> and I get updates few times a day (14.04)
[12:47] <ghostcube> hmm Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt:
[12:47] <ghostcube>   dkms
[12:47] <ghostcube> is this wanted?
[12:47] <snele> jussi: apachelogger: yes. It should pop up even if I do sudo apt-get update and if there are available updates
[12:49] <apachelogger> ah
[12:49] <apachelogger> snele: kdebugdialog -> activate everything
[12:49] <apachelogger> snele: kquitapp kded; sleep 2; kded4 --nofork &> log
[12:50] <apachelogger> wait like 10 minutes, then ctrl-c and send me the log
[12:50] <apachelogger> afterwards simply restart `kded4` via a terminal (it will fork and continue working as before)
[12:50] <apachelogger> ghostcube: possibly
[12:51] <apachelogger> that is: unless you have a dkms driver package installed, dkms itself will be useless
[12:51] <apachelogger> it is not part of the default installation
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer: debian/copyright in your pam-kwallet still doesn't mention BSD
[13:15] <Riddell> apachelogger: kreadconfig --group Locale --key Language  is blank now
[13:15] <apachelogger> Riddell: ok, if you have time to try k-n-h it should now display a notification when kde-l10n-engb is missing
[13:16] <apachelogger> you might want to twiddle the timer in src/daemon/notificationhelpermodule.cpp's ctor to 3*1000 
[13:16] <apachelogger> otherwise you'll have to wait for 3 minutes
[13:16] <apachelogger> (might be that the dbus issue prevents package listhing alltogether though)
[13:17] <apachelogger> Riddell: on that note, does discover work for you?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/pam-kwallet_0.0~git20140218-1.dsc
[13:19] <shadeslayer> should be fixed now
[13:19] <Riddell> apachelogger: hmm discover seems to get stuck on installing
[13:20] <Riddell> dpkg-source: error: file ./pam-kwallet_0.0~git20140218.orig.tar.xz has size 6576 instead of expected 6056
[13:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ↑
[13:20] <Riddell> dpkg-source: error: file ./pam-kwallet_0.0~git20140218.orig.tar.xz has size 6576 instead of expected 6056
[13:20] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[13:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: now?
[13:21] <Riddell> shadeslayer: same thin
[13:21] <Riddell> shadeslayer: doing dget http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/pam-kwallet_0.0~git20140218-1.dsc
[13:21] <shadeslayer> :S
[13:21] <shadeslayer> works here
[13:21] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah, there is definitely something wrong with your dbus/qapt no clue what though, never seen the messages from the debug log before :S
[13:22] <Riddell> apachelogger: qapt broke my dbus!
[13:22] <Riddell> might take the excuse to reinstall and test some upgrade testing
[13:23] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/ptuzj1rjt
[13:23] <BluesKaj> ok rebooted new kernel version 3.13.0-10-generic x86_64  successfully ...breathes a sigh of relief....again :)
[13:23] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1282074
[13:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fooey
[13:24] <shadeslayer> explains Riddell's issue
[13:24] <Riddell> what does?
[13:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: all over the code your asterixes are on the wrong side of the space btw
[13:27] <shadeslayer> uf
[13:27] <shadeslayer> blame KDevelop
[13:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: both kcm and notifier?
[13:28] <apachelogger> dunno, I am looking at notifier
[13:28] <apachelogger> DriverEvent::DriverEvent(QObject* parent, QString name)
[13:28] <apachelogger> void DriverEvent::driverMapFinished(QDBusPendingCallWatcher* data)
[13:28] <apachelogger> think that's it
[13:28] <apachelogger> or not
[13:28] <apachelogger> QApt::Backend* m_aptBackend;
[13:28] <apachelogger>     OrgKubuntuDriverManagerInterface* m_manager;
[13:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: your ctor could use some line breaks
[13:32] <shadeslayer> fixed
[13:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6959928/
[13:34] <apachelogger>  : Event(parent, name)
[13:34] <apachelogger> +, m_showNotification(false)
[13:34] <apachelogger> ^ those need indention btw
[13:34] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that doesn't fix anything
[13:34] <apachelogger> you just turned a no-notification problem into a double-notification problem
[13:35] <shadeslayer> bah
[13:35] <shadeslayer> wait
[13:35] <apachelogger> module still calls show
[13:35] <apachelogger> so if the call chain arrives before init() is done you now call show() twice
[13:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1282080
[13:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6959938/
[13:36] <shadeslayer> as for xapian cache, any recommendations?
[13:37] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1282082
[13:38] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6959944/
[13:38] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: recommendtion: ::openXapianIndex :: xapianIndexNeedsUpdate ::updateXapianIndex ::xapianUpdateFinished
[13:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: better http://paste.ubuntu.com/6959946/
[13:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: does QApt offer an interface to xapian?
[13:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1282085
[13:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6959964/
[13:43] <apachelogger> bug 1282087
[13:43] <shadeslayer> /o\
[13:46] <apachelogger> bug 1282090
[13:47] <shadeslayer> ^^ will fix tomorrow
[13:47] <apachelogger> bug 1282092
[13:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6959988/
[13:50] <apachelogger> bug 1282095
[13:51]  * shadeslayer will look at other things tomorrow
[13:52] <ghostcube> apachelogger: ah ok
[14:03] <snele> apachelogger: after  kquitapp kded; sleep 2; kded4 --nofork &> log 
[14:03] <snele> log should apppear in konsole or in some file?
[14:03] <snele> in konsole I got nothing
[14:04] <snele> sorry for noob questions ;)
[14:07] <sgclark> Riddell: kconfigwidgets ready
[14:08] <manchicken> Riddell: I forgot to commit one change from Harald's comments, I'll do that in about three hours when I hit my lunch break.
[14:11] <manchicken> Riddell: I believe I have the ability to merge my changes into the master (right now they're on a branch), let me know if you have a preference either way. These changes are pretty small by comparison to the rest of the 2.1.1 changes.
[14:12] <Riddell> manchicken: what's the other option?
[14:13] <jussi> snele: I think there will be a file whereever you ran that from called "log"
[14:13] <manchicken> Riddell: I can keep it in the branch or I can merge to master.
[14:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no, it is in a file
[14:17] <apachelogger> eh
[14:17] <apachelogger> snele: no, it is in a file
[14:18] <apachelogger> a file called 'log' ^^
[14:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1282107
[14:19] <shadeslayer> thx
[14:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: "Never show again" doesn't work?
[14:21] <Riddell> manchicken: merge is nicer I'd say
[14:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: icon comes up -> I click it because I wish to check my drivers -> kcm comes up -> I decide that I don't want a binary driver and close the kcm -> next login icon comes up -> I reinstall windows.
[14:24] <shadeslayer> you come back to Kubuntu
[14:24] <apachelogger> because of all the nice notifications
[14:25] <shadeslayer> It's the circle of life ....
[14:25] <apachelogger> actually I might open a bitcoin exchange
[14:25] <apachelogger> it's not like that hasn't happened before
[14:25] <shadeslayer> Silk Road 3?
[14:25]  * apachelogger fixed ugly notification icons
[14:25] <shadeslayer> hurray
[14:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: are my previous fixes fine btw?
[14:26] <apachelogger> maybe
[14:26] <apachelogger> test them?
[14:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1280773
[14:29]  * apachelogger done, needs new brain now
[14:29] <apachelogger> kubotu: order brain
[14:29]  * kubotu shouts: OMG!!!!! RED ALERT! We lost a brain. Get me a medic, NOW!
[14:29]  * apachelogger faints
[14:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah know about that
[14:29] <shadeslayer> I shall fixup everything tomorrow
[14:29] <shadeslayer> not on the agendat today
[14:29] <shadeslayer> *agenda even
[14:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: there's no agenda today from what I can tell
[14:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: I think libkubuntu should be done for now, I also found another special case that was never handled ... en_US would require gimp-help-en to be installed, however since we never represensted en_US in any form or fashion gimp-help-en would not have gotten installed automagically
[14:42] <apachelogger> will upload in a bit
[14:42] <apachelogger> (en_US now maps to package code 'en' for both our kde packaging and general ubuntu packaging)
[14:53] <dougl> morning
[14:59] <Riddell> thanks apachelogger, I'll package that up
[15:28] <Peace-> mmm why installing kde-full   plasma-scriptengine-ruby  was not installed ?
[15:30] <sgclark> Ridell: kconfigwidgets & kservice ready
[15:30] <sgclark> Riddell ^
[15:48] <snele> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pp0nt5fea
[15:48] <snele> it runned about 30 min
[15:59] <Peace-> :) now i have understood how to change microphone on the fly with pulse and kde
[15:59] <Peace-> finally.
[16:13] <apachelogger> QDBusObjectPath: invalid path "/modules/muon-notifier"
[16:13] <apachelogger> kded(5672): The kded module name ' "muon-notifier" ' is invalid! 
[16:13] <apachelogger> kded(5672)/kded4 Kded::loadModule: Successfully loaded module "muon-notifier"
[16:13] <apachelogger> funsies
[16:14] <apachelogger> snele: technically you should probably get a notification
[16:14] <apachelogger> log gives no indication as to why you don't
[16:15] <sgclark> Riddell http://paste.ubuntu.com/6960596/
[16:16] <sgclark> nevermind figured it out
[16:20] <sgclark> Riddell: kdbusaddons updated
[16:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ping
[16:34] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: pong
[16:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do you know off the top of your head how to make kdeconnect not show in the menu but show up in Muon Discover?
[16:38] <apachelogger> as I said when you showed me the commit, it will either need Hidden or NoDisplay
[16:39] <apachelogger> preferrably former, however I am not sure app-install will extract it then
[16:40] <manchicken> Riddell, apachelogger, I am in the process of submitting the final diffs for the error handling changes for the qapt 2.1.1 version.
[16:42] <manchicken_> Okay, that's done, I also updated the review with those diffs.
[16:43] <manchicken_> Ack, nevermind
[16:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pplt3lgqx
[16:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: both Hidden and NoDisplay seem to be picked up?
[16:44] <tester56> Will trusty ship with 4.13?
[16:44] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:45] <tester56> shadeslayer: to what comment/question does the yes refer to?
[16:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: it's Hidden=True, documented in the read me
[16:46] <Riddell> ug, sorry folks I'm feeling really ill this afternoon, may be taking it easy
[16:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: *hugs*
[16:47] <sgclark> Riddell: no problem I can return tomorrow, if you could push kdbusaddons if possible, it is a show stopper ( hope you feel better
[16:48] <manchicken_> apachelogger, Riddell, okay, that is actually commited this time. Riddell, if you wanted to do anything with that, it is repo "git://anongit.kde.org/libqapt" branch "master2.1.1+error_translations"
[16:48] <manchicken_> Riddell: I hope you feel better :(
[17:14] <jussi> valorie: ^^^^
[17:25] <manchicken> apachelogger: I'm wondering whether or not it's possible to change the permission on the KDE projects page so that I can create version branches.
[17:25] <manchicken> I'd like to make a 2.1.1-rc branch
[17:28] <apachelogger> ohm, you should be able to do that
[17:29] <jussi> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/bq-meizu-ubuntu-smartphones-confirmed-for-2014-release
[17:29] <apachelogger> manchicken: but, #kde-sysadmin can make you project manager, then you have full branch control
[17:29] <apachelogger> manchicken: they'll likely want you to file a ticket though
[17:30] <manchicken> I can file a ticket, I just don't want to step on JonT's toes.
[17:30] <manchicken> It just seems like it'd be a good idea to be able to make version branches.
[17:31] <apachelogger> manchicken: I doubt JT will care :P
[17:32] <apachelogger> the only reason not everyone can fiddle with branches is so that one does not accidentially delete a production branch or something ^^
[17:33] <manchicken> I'm surprised that they don't have a "projects.kde.org" ticket group.
[17:34] <manchicken> Ticket submitted.
[17:35] <manchicken> I suppose I should also be able to put news up about the project if I'm updating it.
[18:18] <ScottK> synaptiks gone
[18:20] <shadeslayer> \o/
[18:47] <shadeslayer> jussi: any progress with the tablet?
[18:49] <jussi> shadeslayer: Ive barely looked at it, sorry. I have plans for this weekend...
[18:49] <shadeslayer> cool
[19:11] <Riddell> ScottK: but did you see the bug with the new touchpad kcm? it breaks touchpadenabler :(
[19:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: that can be fixed though
[19:16] <shadeslayer> not to mention that synaptiks is unmaintained
[19:17] <ScottK> Riddell: No.  I hadn't.
[19:17] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I guess it's on you to fix.
[19:18] <shadeslayer> kde bug 331285
[19:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ping
[19:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you try out this patch to kubuntu-notification-helper http://paste.ubuntu.com/6961564/
[19:27] <ScottK> apachelogger: With debug enabled qapt: http://paste.debian.net/82945/ - Muon Updater's claiming chromium and all the qapt packages need to be added and that's a lie (I Ihad manually removed them)
[19:33] <shadeslayer> Riddell: poke poke?
[19:44] <ScottK> Riddell: qscintilla2 transition is done.
[19:57] <BluesKaj> NM widget icon disappears from the panel when a vpn server is enabled
[20:34] <Riddell> ScottK: awesome
[20:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ouch
[20:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ouch? :D
[20:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I hurt, why the poking?
[20:35] <shadeslayer> aha
[20:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you please test out kubuntu-notifications-helper from bzr
[20:36] <Riddell> shadeslayer: this patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/6961564/ is to stop it showing up when I log in?
[20:36] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes
[20:36] <shadeslayer> Riddell: already pushed to bzr btw
[20:36] <shadeslayer> better to push and revert than not to push at all
[20:36] <Riddell> deep words
[20:36] <shadeslayer> ;)
[20:38] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yep I can log in now without getting an icon for hardware
[20:38] <shadeslayer> \o/
[20:38] <shadeslayer> Riddell: are you sure you waited 3 minutes ? :P
[20:38] <shadeslayer> because apachelogger increased the timeout to 3 minutes
[20:39] <Riddell> oh no
[20:39]  * Riddell waits
[20:41] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yay, get a language popup, not a hardware popup
[20:41]  * genii makes more coffee and passes the mugs around
[20:42] <Riddell> the language one loads qapt which says waiting for authorisation which doesn't do anything but that seems to be a problem in my system
[20:43] <shadeslayer> \o/
[20:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: going to upload kdeconnect to my ppa soon
[20:43] <shadeslayer> can you upload it?
[20:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: sure, what's new?
[20:44] <shadeslayer> Riddell: mostly bug fixes is what the maintainer told me
[20:45] <shadeslayer> new icon, now comes with translations
[20:45] <genii> BTW. kudos to whoever was tweaking the plasma-nm recently. Works well and I like the new look.
[20:45] <shadeslayer> new look?
[20:45] <genii> shadeslayer: Seems to have different icons than before
[20:46] <genii> ( at least when on the taskbar)
[20:47] <Riddell> yep the new version of plasma-nm is looking nice
[20:47] <jarkko> http://pastebin.com/vAR8ZL5n
[21:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental
[21:17] <Riddell> shadeslayer: uploadeds
[21:17] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did you check if ktp all got compiled?
[21:27] <manchicken> Riddell: Feeling better?
[22:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the decrease to 3 seconds was an unintended commit, I only decreased it for testing ;)
[22:13] <apachelogger> ScottK: just having had a glance, this might be a bit of a complicated issue as it basically says, if you want to upgrade chromium-codecs... you'll have to upgrade chromium-browser (which is a sane asseration as it were), will have to have a closer look to define a solution though
[22:15] <apachelogger> line 126 essentially says that you unmarked chromium-browser and line 174 that chromium-codec is still marked for upgrade
[22:42] <manchicken> apachelogger: Are you doing any of the KDE stuff? Particularly any of the Qt5 porting stuff?
[22:42] <manchicken> apachelogger: I'm trying to think of what the timeline for Qt5 porting might look like for qapt.
[22:44] <manchicken> It kinda looks like KDE is wanting to do some of that stuff this year.
[23:11] <ScottK> apachelogger: OK.  I forgot that bit, but I also unmarked all of qpat and it still insisted onthat.