[00:12] <Lorith[Alpha]> o/
[00:13] <Lorith[Alpha]> online accounts manager / empathy feedback as "reason unknown" when trying to connect when no internet access. is it counts as a bug?
[01:02]  * ceed^ is away: I'm away (gone at 18th Feb, 19:02:17)
[11:16] <vramana> I am using Ubuntu-gnome 13.10. and I am not able to view hidden files through Nautilus after changing the preferences to show hidden and backup files. I have restarted my system as well but No luck as such
[11:16] <vramana> Can somebody help me?
[20:42] <juppi> I'd like to boot trisquel from a live USB. However, my bootloader doesn't allow booting except the already existing ubuntu. How can I boot manually via terminal?
[20:45] <mgedmin> boot media choice is up to the BIOS, it gets control before your bootloader
[20:47] <juppi> ah ok, but already in the bios i can't set another boot source
[20:59] <gonyere> juppi you should be able to change the boot order so that cd or usb is before your hdd
[21:00] <juppi> exactly this is not possible
[21:00] <mgedmin> strange bios you have
[21:01] <mgedmin> so in theory I'm sure you can coax grub into chain-booting a USB key
[21:01] <juppi> yes, indeed
[21:01] <mgedmin> in practice it'll be magical incantations I'm too tired to research
[21:01] <mgedmin> google and/or careful study of the grub manual might help
[21:01] <mgedmin> personally I'd try to battle the bios setup
[21:01] <juppi> jah, i tried too avoid that ;)
[21:01] <gonyere> alternatively you may be able to press f12 or f10 or f2 to get a boot menu immediatly after starting up
[21:01] <mgedmin> do you have a usb key plugged in before you entered the setup?  perhaps it only lets you choose devices that exist?
[21:01] <gonyere> and selecting usb/cd from there
[21:02] <juppi> yes, all this i have done
[21:03] <juppi> maybe the uefi blocks it
[21:04] <gonyere> have you disabled uefi?
[21:04] <gonyere> thats generally a first step
[21:04] <juppi> i did before, but than nothing was able to boot
[21:05] <gonyere> did you enable legacy bios after disableing uefi?
[21:05] <juppi> no
[21:05] <gonyere> try that
[21:05] <juppi> yes, sorry
[21:05] <juppi> i did that i mean
[21:05] <gonyere> and it wouldn't boot anything?
[21:06] <juppi> no, then there was a time slope, a loop
[21:07] <mgedmin> uefi is a thing
[21:07] <gonyere> weird
[21:07] <mgedmin> I don't even know if my laptop has uefi
[21:07] <mgedmin> seems recent enough (thinkpad x220)
[21:07] <mgedmin> maybe I'm in legacy bios mode
[21:08] <juppi> can i try anything with grub?
[21:08] <gonyere> my laptop doesn't, but the hp desktop i bought my boys for xmas does
[21:08] <gonyere> i had to disable uefi
[21:08] <gonyere> and enable legacy boot
[21:08] <gonyere> and then I could easily delete windows and install ubuntu
[21:09] <mgedmin> juppi, something like http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Chain_002dloading.html
[21:09] <gonyere> and i always have the option on boot up to press f10 or f2 to select a boot device...
[21:11] <juppi> ok, I'm gonna try that, thanks