[18:39] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:32] <ajmitch> morning
[20:14] <chilts> morning
[22:56] <mwhudson> lifeless: it's nice to know your employers are keeping up with current trends: http://h18012.www1.hp.com/java/testdrive/
[22:57] <mwhudson> (i wonder how old that page is)
[22:59] <lifeless> mwhudson: old
[22:59] <lifeless> 'Alpha'
[22:59] <mwhudson> yeah
[22:59] <lifeless> ^- should give  ahint
[22:59] <mwhudson> um yes
[22:59] <mwhudson> i was well aware of that :)
[22:59] <lifeless> http://www.testdrive.hp.com/accounts/ is in fact offline
[22:59] <lifeless> so I dunno if that page really should even exist now
[22:59] <mwhudson> (i was looking for information about the testdrive program and most of the pages about it have died)
[23:00] <mwhudson> i'm pretty sure it shouldn't be around any more
[23:00] <lifeless> yah
[23:00] <mwhudson> i think i used the testdrive program in ... 2002?
[23:00] <lifeless> cloud free accounts would have been the nail in the coffin I suspect
[23:02] <olly_> I thought it had been shut down years ago
[23:03] <olly_> it was pretty handy, except the only way to log in was via telnet
[23:03] <olly_> which never seemed a good ad for how up with technology they were...
[23:03] <olly_> or security
[23:04] <lifeless> its a demo, why do you need ssh?
[23:04] <mwhudson> apparently its demise was announced in 2008
[23:04] <mwhudson> surprisingly recent really
[23:04] <olly_> lifeless: it was useful as a compile farm for testing builds on the OSes they had
[23:05] <olly_> and scp doesn't work over telnet
[23:05] <olly_> but i had some terribly clunky scripting of it all, which mostly worked