[18:39] morning [19:32] morning [20:14] morning === mwhudson is now known as zz_mwhudson === zz_mwhudson is now known as mwhudson === mwhudson is now known as zz_mwhudson === zz_mwhudson is now known as mwhudson [22:56] lifeless: it's nice to know your employers are keeping up with current trends: http://h18012.www1.hp.com/java/testdrive/ [22:57] (i wonder how old that page is) [22:59] mwhudson: old [22:59] 'Alpha' [22:59] yeah [22:59] ^- should give ahint [22:59] um yes [22:59] i was well aware of that :) [22:59] http://www.testdrive.hp.com/accounts/ is in fact offline [22:59] so I dunno if that page really should even exist now [22:59] (i was looking for information about the testdrive program and most of the pages about it have died) [23:00] i'm pretty sure it shouldn't be around any more [23:00] yah [23:00] i think i used the testdrive program in ... 2002? [23:00] cloud free accounts would have been the nail in the coffin I suspect [23:02] I thought it had been shut down years ago [23:03] it was pretty handy, except the only way to log in was via telnet [23:03] which never seemed a good ad for how up with technology they were... [23:03] or security [23:04] its a demo, why do you need ssh? [23:04] apparently its demise was announced in 2008 [23:04] surprisingly recent really [23:04] lifeless: it was useful as a compile farm for testing builds on the OSes they had [23:05] and scp doesn't work over telnet [23:05] but i had some terribly clunky scripting of it all, which mostly worked