[04:47] <jose__> helo
[04:47] <nhaines> jose__: hello!
[04:48] <jose__> hello how are you
[04:49] <jose__> well
[04:49] <jose__> when is the official release
[07:58] <Khippy> yes
[11:29] <rider> hi
[12:15] <okgoogle> so... what is this all about?
[14:16] <aerba> Hi!
[14:23] <aerba> Il y a des français ici ? :)
[14:23] <qermit> no
[14:24] <aerba> :(
[14:25] <GuerroF> hi
[14:25] <GuerroF> aerba ?
[14:25] <aerba> ? :)
[14:25] <GuerroF> Tu es français ?
[14:25] <aerba> Oui
[14:26] <GuerroF> Ouai :D
[14:26] <GuerroF> C'est la première fois que je me co sur cette channel
[14:26] <aerba> Moi aussi ^^ J'attends la news sur l'os ubuntu avec impatience :p
[14:27] <GuerroF> La nouvelle interface a l'air bien
[14:27] <aerba> J'ai pas essayé la première car j'ai lu qu'il y avait pas mal de bug et pas énormément de fonctionnalité
[14:27] <GuerroF> Il y'a l'émulateur dispo sur ubuntu pc
[14:28] <GuerroF> J'ai réussi a installer steam sur ubuntu touch sur mon nexus 4 xD
[14:28] <aerba> J'ai même pas pensé à émuler
[14:28] <GuerroF> Parcontre l'affichage xD
[14:28] <aerba> Ahah tu m'étonnes
[14:29] <GuerroF> Sur tablette ça doit être mieux
[14:29] <GuerroF> J'espere qu'il y'aura une version steam pour ubuntu touch car xD
[14:29] <aerba> Steam sur un smartphone, c'est un concept ! :p
[14:30] <GuerroF> xD
[14:30] <GuerroF> Bah il ont l'eu fait sur android pourquoi pas pour ubuntu touch ?
[14:30] <aerba> Tu vas jouer à CSS avec le tactile écran ? \o
[14:30] <GuerroF> Pourquoi pas
[14:31] <aerba> Quelle horreur xD
[14:31] <GuerroF> Je pense brancher un clavier
[14:31] <GuerroF> (et la souris)
[14:31] <GuerroF> Peut être que il y'aura un CSS pour ubuntu touch ? xD
[14:32] <aerba> ^^
[14:32] <GuerroF> Ben j'ai réussi a faire tourner dota 2 sur mon nexus 4 (par contre la galère xD) j'ai eu vers le max 20 fps
[14:33] <aerba> Il a pas trop chauffé ton N4 ? mdr
[14:33] <GuerroF> oui xD
[14:33] <GuerroF> Ben au moins y'aura peut etre une version ubuntu phone sur CSS
[14:35] <aerba> J'espère que la connexion internet sera corrigé car j'ai entendu plein de HIC là-dessus.
[14:35] <GuerroF> Sur ubuntu touch ?
[14:35] <aerba> Oui
[14:35] <GuerroF> J'ai pas eu de probleme sur ça
[14:35] <aerba> Ah oui ?
[14:35] <GuerroF> Bah oui
[14:35] <GuerroF> J'ai pas du trop toucher comme mon ordi xD
[14:36] <aerba> Alors c'est peut être en voulant l'installer sur les N4 qu'il y a des bugs
[14:36] <GuerroF> Je suis avec un N4
[14:36] <GuerroF> xD
[14:37] <aerba> Ah d'accord !
[14:37] <aerba> Je suis à l'ouest ah ah
[14:37] <GuerroF> xD
[14:37] <aerba> Et au niveau des stores ?
[14:38] <GuerroF> Heu
[14:38] <aerba> Ca donne quoi ?
[14:38] <GuerroF> Je pense qu'il ont du prendre la logithèque
[14:38] <GuerroF> j'ai pas trop toucher
[14:38] <GuerroF> le store
[14:38] <GuerroF> J'ai toucher que au terminal et autre fonction xD
[14:39] <GuerroF> Sinon je trouve que le store est remplie
[14:40] <aerba> Pas de soucis d'ergonomie particulier non plus ?
[14:40] <GuerroF> Bah
[14:40] <GuerroF> Bof
[14:40] <GuerroF> En tout cas on dirait que ça consomme moins que android
[14:41] <GuerroF> Car sur android je pense que les service google font des soucis ergnomique
[14:41] <aerba> Ca serait un bon poitn
[14:41] <aerba> point*
[14:41] <GuerroF> Je pense qu'il dure plus lomgtemps que android
[14:43] <aerba> C'est uns ystème léger à la base. Il y a surement moins de processus qui tourne en fond pour rien
[14:43] <GuerroF> oui xD
[14:46] <aerba> En ce qui concerne les appels téléphoniques, il n'y a pas de hachage lors des conversations ? J'ai aussi entendu qu'il y avait des défauts sur ce point
[14:46] <GuerroF> Parfois non parfois oui
[14:46] <GuerroF> Enfin c'est rare xD
[14:46] <GuerroF> mais je l'utulise pas pendant 1 heure quand même xD
[14:49] <gusplox> deux heures de plus
[14:49] <GuerroF> De ?
[14:49] <aerba> Comment ça ?
[14:50] <gusplox> pour la transmission
[14:50] <GuerroF> Ah ok
[14:50] <aerba> 19h30 du coup ?
[14:50] <GuerroF> 15:50 + 2 H 16:50 --> 17:50 ?
[14:51] <gusplox> pour moi c'est à 10h50
[14:51] <GuerroF> Ah
[14:51] <eaoden> Bonjour !
[14:51] <GuerroF> Ben tiens y'a 4 français maintenant xD
[14:51] <gusplox> haha, bonjour
[14:51] <aerba> Ben à la base c'est 17h50 heures française, donc si ça repousse de 2h c'est 19h50 xD
[14:53] <Guest43570> Hi lal
[14:53] <Guest43570> all*
[14:53] <Guest43570> When will the event start?
[14:53] <aerba> 5.50 pm
[14:54] <eaoden> I don't know, where do you live ?
[14:55] <Embrais> it starts in 1h 54m
[14:55] <JonathanGurebo> Hi TEST
[14:55] <GuerroF> hi
[14:55] <JonathanGurebo> I love Ubuntu!
[14:56] <GuerroF> Me too
[14:56] <eaoden> Ok, at 5 pm for me. :P
[14:56] <Embrais> runnin 14.04 ;)
[14:56] <GuerroF> Me too xD
[14:56] <eaoden> Why I love Ubuntu : Ç
[14:56] <JonathanGurebo> xD
[14:56] <JonathanGurebo> :)
[14:57] <GuerroF> I love ubuntu-emulator in my ubuntu 14.04 :D
[14:57] <Embrais> so itching for mobile release
[14:57] <eaoden> Excuse me Embrais, what are you talking about ?
[14:58] <gusplox> I know, me too, haven't had the chance to test it on my nexus 4
[14:58] <eaoden> Can't you install it aside the Android OS ?
[14:59] <GuerroF> Yes
[14:59] <aerba> J'aimerai un dualboot olala ^^
[15:00] <GuerroF> Fastoch
[15:00] <GuerroF> Enfin je sais pas x
[15:00] <GuerroF> Enfin je sais pas xD
[15:00] <eaoden> Essayez de parler anglais svp
[15:00] <aerba> xD
[15:00] <gusplox> moi aussi
[15:00] <Embrais> I want the full experience :) Cyanogen is cool but a pure Ubuntu phone would be awesome
[15:00] <GuerroF> Yes
[15:00] <Nikten> Hi guys. i have galaxy s3, have u any way to install ubuntu touch on it?
[15:00] <aerba> +1 Embrais :p
[15:01] <GuerroF> NikTen ---> I don't know
[15:01] <eaoden> Hello Nikten, wait a moment
[15:01] <Embrais> Yes Nikten but it is not going to work properly
[15:01] <Embrais> GSM only etc
[15:01] <Nikten> i have installed build 4 yet
[15:01] <eaoden> You can install it here --> http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android
[15:02] <Nikten> but i want to install ubuntu 13.10 stable if possible
[15:02] <Embrais> that's ubuntu for android not ubuntu touch
[15:02] <Guest59988> .
[15:03] <eaoden> Of course, Ubuntu touch will work with Ubuntu phones ;o)
[15:03] <GuerroF> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install <-- For ubuntu touch
[15:03] <aerba> he wants to install on galaxy s3
[15:05] <GuerroF> Aerba ?
[15:05] <GuerroF> You have the Samsung Galaxy S3 (GT-I9300) ?
[15:05] <aerba> no i have google nexus 4
[15:05] <aerba> but it's possible to install ubuntu os since windows pc
[15:05] <aerba> ?
[15:05] <k1l> for ubuntu touch talk better ask in #ubuntu-touch
[15:06] <GuerroF> [16:03] <aerba> he wants to install on galaxy s3 xD
[15:06] <aerba> Oui je parlais pour Nikten
[15:06] <GuerroF> Ah ok
[15:06] <eaoden> What is your version of Windows ?
[15:06] <GuerroF> Tu veux dire ubuntu os ou ubuntu touch ?
[15:06] <aerba> Seven
[15:07] <aerba> l'os ubuntu
[15:07] <GuerroF> Bah oui tu peux en dualboot
[15:07] <Embrais> Samsung galaxy S3 d2att UNOFFICIAL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39156949
[15:07] <Embrais> it's a work in progress like i said
[15:07] <Embrais> don't expect it to work  properly more just to see how it looks/works
[15:08] <eaoden> Yeah, and it can blow up if you shake it too much, so be careful.
[15:08] <Embrais> hehe
[15:09] <aerba> GuerroF, et pour installer ubuntu touch sur mon n4 depuis windows c'est possible ?
[15:09] <aerba> Car j'ai rien trouvé à ce sujet
[15:09] <GuerroF> heu je sais pas du tout la xD
[15:09] <GuerroF> Je l'ai installé depuis ubuntu
[15:09] <eaoden> Je sais meême pas comment on installe Ubuntu touch OS
[15:10] <eaoden> (J'ai un iPhone, riez de moi)
[15:10] <Nikten> Thanks Embrais but i've installed yet ;)
[15:11] <aerba> it's possible to install ubuntu touch since windows pc ? :(
[15:11] <eaoden> *from
[15:11] <eaoden> I don't know. Why would they build a software for Windows assuming it's supposed to work with Ubuntu ?
[15:14] <aerba> it would mean that we should have a pc with ubuntu necessarily ... it sucks
[15:14] <eaoden> [That's french] http://www.developpez.com/actu/65740/Canonical-sort-Ubuntu-Dual-Boot-une-solution-pour-installer-Ubuntu-Touch-en-dual-boot-aux-cotes-d-Android/
[15:15] <eaoden> Ok, so you need ADB tools
[15:17] <aerba> Ok thanks
[15:17] <gusplox> L’utilitaire a été testé sur quatre appareils seulement
[15:17] <eaoden> Do you have virtual machines to run Ubuntu in a Windows ? (BEST JOKE EVER)
[15:17] <aerba> but if i won't dualboot ?
[15:18] <aerba> eaoden, i haven't but i can it's not a problem
[15:18] <gusplox> windows 8 has been struggling with virtualbox, but still best joke ever as you say
[15:18] <eaoden> Until I do another one.
[15:18] <eaoden> *untill ?
[15:19] <gusplox> I'll be waiting
[15:19] <gusplox> until*
[15:38] <Nikten> !touch
[15:39] <aerba> GuerroF ?
[15:40] <thomas15992> hi
[15:40] <aerba> Hi thomas
[15:40] <JonathanGurebo> hi
[15:40] <GuerroF> Aerba ?
[15:42] <aerba> Je ne pense pas être là pour l'event :s
[15:42] <aerba> Je peux te demander un service ? ^^
[15:43] <GuerroF> Quoi ?
[15:45] <aerba> Je t'ai envoyé un msg en pv
[15:46] <GuerroF> Comment on fait ?
[15:46] <Murazaki> Bonjour !
[15:46] <GuerroF> Ah ok
[15:46] <GuerroF> Salut
[15:50] <aerba> Salut murazaki
[15:56] <Nijo> Hi
[15:56] <Saraghon> hi
[15:56] <Nijo> Anybody with ideas about When ubuntu touch official image for nexus 5 comes in??
[15:58] <Nijo> ??
[15:59] <Nijo> Hi When will official ubuntu touch image for nexus 5 comes out???
[16:11] <xnox> Nijo: well sergio did post test images already and merge proposals are up. I don't think it's merged yet.
[16:12] <xnox> Nijo: it's not up at http://system-image.ubuntu.com/devel-proposed/ yet (codename is flo)
[16:12] <xnox> (well that's the hardware name of it, same as android naming scheme)
[16:16] <emad_> can i use android app on ubuntu preview?
[16:16] <okgoogle> Hi
[16:17] <okgoogle> Where can i find a list of compatible devices for ubuntu phone?
[16:20] <Siekacz1> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwODg - time is bending, on ubuntuonair i still see the counter, but phoronix has all the news...
[16:33] <rickspencer3> o/
[16:36] <JEK_> hi all!
[16:37] <baconator> wow quite a turn up already
[16:39] <nitrub> how long will this last?
[16:41] <fin-fan> ten min to wait
[16:41] <Ultimo> how did you know ?
[16:41] <PaulW2U> nitrub: 1650 to 1730 is what appears in the Google calendar
[16:41]  * ogra_ feels the tension rising
[16:42]  * av500 blames ogra_ for the "GEMA" message on youtube
[16:42] <ogra_> haha
[16:42] <Ultimo> :-P
[16:42] <ogra_> i cant test, still in a hangout ... will check in a minute if i get it too
[16:42] <av500> ogra_: they give you only one PC?
[16:43] <ogra_> they dont even give it to me :/
[16:44] <biscobestia97> hi
[16:45] <Embrais> T-Minus 5min ... and counting :)
[16:45] <Chrislain> Hello
[16:45] <ogra_> wheee
[16:45] <Neo31> hello folks :)
[16:45] <biscobestia97> ready?
[16:45] <fader> It's like waiting for the ball to drop on new year's eve :)
[16:45] <Embrais> hehe
[16:47] <turbinenreiter> video is not available in germany because of gema.
[16:47] <ogra_> turbinenreiter, yeah ... just discussion with the guys, not sure they can fix it
[16:47] <ogra_> *discussing
[16:47] <Neo31> please, can someone ask this for me later? (I wont have internet access for the next two hours) I wanted to know if there will be support for nexus 5 or other devices as a development platform.
[16:48] <turbinenreiter> proxy tube on firefox is fixing it already ... .
[16:48] <CheeseBurg> Neo31: Probably not. It gets asked a lot
[16:48] <baconator> that question has been aswered hundreds of times already
[16:48] <ogra_> you can use the proxtube firefox plugin if you have gema issues in germany
[16:48] <ogra_> (not the best solution but should at least help)
[16:48] <Neo31> good CheeseBurg :)
[16:49] <Embrais> 1min
[16:49] <stexvxe> Starting soon... :D
[16:49] <Skaine> Hi!
[16:49] <Ultimo> anyone else here from germany and this GEMA-Message?
[16:49] <SirSqueakalot> Hi!
[16:49] <Skaine> hi!
[16:49] <yelin> hi
[16:49] <Skaine> Are there italian's people?
[16:49] <tsdgeos> Ultimo: [17:48:28] <ogra_> you can use the proxtube firefox plugin if you have gema issues in germany
[16:49] <timp> Ultimo: apparently, yes. https://proxtube.com/
[16:50] <Ultimo> thanks
[16:50] <Wellark> what!? GEMA message on our ubuntu on air session?
[16:50] <ogra_> yeah :(
[16:50] <NO_NaMe> I also have problems with GEMA...
[16:50] <Embrais> yeah seems kinda stupid
[16:50] <tim_> Hi there!
[16:50] <ogra_> use proxtube
[16:50] <turbinenreiter> gema-problems -> proxy tube
[16:50] <timp> Wellark: you get that also? In which country are you now?
[16:50] <FuLgOrE_> so I need to use the youtube channel on the mentioned page?
[16:50] <Neo31> enjoy it folks :)
[16:50] <baconator> 52 secs delay
[16:50] <Wellark> timp: no, I'm not getting it. I just can't understand how it would be on ubuntuonair.
[16:51] <turbinenreiter> gema is typically germany
[16:51] <GreenChris> go away gema ^^ i'm in germany and i am getting a gema message
[16:51] <FuLgOrE_> youtube is blocked in china and with vpn irc don't works
[16:51] <FuLgOrE_> :-/
[16:51] <biscobestia97> i cant wait
[16:51] <fyksen> It hasn't started yet, right? :)
[16:51] <Nikten> Skaine: io :D
[16:51] <Embrais> not yet
[16:51] <timp> gema message before the live feed started is weird anyway..
[16:51] <GreenChris> yep
[16:51] <tim_> It hasn't started yet?
[16:51] <fin-fan> It is late.
[16:51] <bladernr_> Yeah... 11:51 EST... :/
[16:51] <extraymond> What happened?
[16:51] <biscobestia97> no
[16:51] <GuerroF> Live started ?
[16:51] <timp> tim_: it still says "starting soon" for me
[16:51] <biscobestia97> it seems to getting on....
[16:51] <rickspencer3> hi all, just running a little bit late
[16:52] <fyksen> extraymond, nothing yet.  :)
[16:52] <rickspencer3> will get started very soon
[16:52] <tim_> ok
[16:52] <biscobestia97> ....
[16:52] <extraymond> I heard a beet!
[16:52] <baconator> thx rick
[16:52] <Embrais> The suspense is killing me....I hope it lasts...
[16:52] <turbinenreiter> HELP
[16:52] <pritz> hi
[16:52] <nitrub> hopefully not only meizu and BQ announcements
[16:52] <Khippy> real excited
[16:52] <GreenChris> when will it start ? ^^
[16:52] <fyksen> Are we allowed to guess what it is here?
[16:53] <turbinenreiter> is there a way to not et the 'has joined' 'has left' messages all the time?
[16:53] <pepies> fail
[16:53] <Skaine> I wanna ubuntu phone!!!!!:D
[16:53] <ChloeWolfieGirl> UTouch x3
[16:53] <regz> turbinenreiter, take a proxy, German are too powerful they don't t
[16:53] <jdrab> turbinenreiter: it depends on your irc client
[16:53] <stexvxe> It hasn't begun, am I right? haha
[16:53] <rickspencer3> moments away from starting
[16:53] <fyksen> stexvxe, right on! not yet
[16:53] <stexvxe> Uh, there was a beat again!
[16:54] <wtf__> where's video?
[16:54] <turbinenreiter> using the one underneath the video on the ubuntuonair site
[16:54] <ChloeWolfieGirl> You touched ubuntu, and now it's turned into this, welcome to Ubuntu Touch, the first phones UTouch Phones x3
[16:54] <Skaine> go mark go...:D
[16:54] <GreenChris> has it started?
[16:54] <nitrub> noooo
[16:54] <stexvxe> No it hasn't
[16:55] <tim_> will the GEMA screen disappear after the start??
[16:55] <turbinenreiter> tim use proxytube
[16:55] <DomasDev> why won't it start???
[16:55] <ogra_> tim_, use proxtube
[16:55] <pritz> hi'
[16:55] <bladernr_> What's a GEMA screen?
[16:55] <gbahry> hi
[16:55] <GreenChris> gema is blocking music videos in germany
[16:55] <mrbrownstone> has it started yet?
[16:55] <baconator> video yet anyone?
[16:55] <fyksen> baconator, nope
[16:55] <jdrab> NO
[16:55] <mhall119> video works now
[16:55] <ogra_> bladernr_, a silly german thing informing you that a yourtube video uses protected music (which is a lie in our case)
[16:55] <pritz> why arent they starting?
[16:55] <gbahry> nope
[16:55] <superbaked> no video yet 4 me
[16:55] <Wellark> bladernr_: http://www.clementadam.com/germany-bypass-youtube-gema-censorship-firefox/
[16:55] <fyksen> IT IS STARTING!!!
[16:55] <WhiteMonkey> You are live
[16:55] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Now its started :D
[16:55] <GreenChris> for an unknown reason this video is blocked too
[16:56] <ogra_> mhall119, not in germany :(
[16:56] <ttoine> you are live
[16:56] <mhall119> try refreshing if it's not playing for you yet
[16:56] <regz> it s a screen that dont alloow you to watch because of restriction in germany
[16:56] <xnox> jono: live
[16:56] <tim_> i call it "GEMA screen"... i will use proxtube
[16:56] <pritz> ok they started!
[16:56] <bladernr_> ogra_: yeah, I just figured that out... never heard of it before
[16:56] <mrbrownstone> yes
[16:56] <nitrub> here we go!
[16:56] <bladernr_> heheh
[16:56] <ChloeWolfieGirl> We can see you!
[16:56] <fyksen> Live! :)
[16:56] <PaulW2U> hi jono
[16:56] <fyksen> GOGOGO
[16:56] <superbaked> starting
[16:56] <fader> We see you
[16:56] <g^> jono: streaming!
[16:56] <dank2501> yoooo
[16:56] <nik90> jono:
[16:56] <Skaine> wowowowowo!!!
[16:56] <nik90> live
[16:56] <forty4> Started!
[16:56] <mrbrookz> We see you!
[16:56] <Alps_Splash> I see you and loud and clear.
[16:56] <marcinello> I can see you!
[16:56] <pmcgowan> jono, yes
[16:56] <mhall119> we have an echo
[16:56] <LordChristoff> Hello :)
[16:56] <dank2501> its om
[16:56] <baconator> yeah
[16:56] <Yanie> Works here
[16:56] <Embrais> whee@
[16:56] <jdrab> finally yeah
[16:56] <mbarnett> I see the stream
[16:56] <ChloeWolfieGirl> haha x3
[16:56] <Marcos_> you are streaming, GREETING FROM MÉXICO
[16:56] <nitrub> kevin spacey lookalike :P
[16:56] <superbaked> yep working :D
[16:56] <Embrais> here we go
[16:56] <biscobestia97> yeah
[16:56] <brod1> Yup
[16:56] <oihjfaopuhgiue> ITS HABBENING
[16:56] <jncarlos> Sweet!
[16:56] <Mengine> The loading screen is whats present here :\
[16:56] <gbahry> working
[16:56] <mhall119> ogra_: file a bug against Germany
[16:56] <sokolgeo> works ok
[16:56] <wellsb> We see you
[16:56] <stexvxe> Hi Jono! Hi Rick!
[16:56] <gbahry> it's live
[16:56] <gQuigs> echo echo echo
[16:56] <fyksen> Love the beard on the bossman!
[16:56] <tuxkalle> we see you
[16:56] <oihjfaopuhgiue>  
[16:56] <oihjfaopuhgiue>  
[16:56] <oihjfaopuhgiue>  
[16:56] <oihjfaopuhgiue>  
[16:56] <tuxkalle> and hear you
[16:57] <sami___> Hi
[16:57] <FuLgOrE_> I file a bug against the chinese firewall :-/
[16:57] <oihjfaopuhgiue>  
[16:57] <oihjfaopuhgiue>  
[16:57] <oihjfaopuhgiue>  
[16:57] <snwh> the shuttle-beard is great
[16:57] <isantop> Still nothing here.
[16:57] <jono> get your questions in about the news by typing "QUESTION" followed by your question
[16:57] <lifeforms> only seeing "Please stand by." here, do you need g**gle pl*s?
[16:57] <rafaelement> I cant see the video because of copyright restrictions, wtf?
[16:57] <fugue88> Live!
[16:58] <mhall119> lifeforms: no, youtube should be all you need
[16:58] <Skaine> i love you MARKKk!!
[16:58] <ChloeWolfieGirl> much better then Android when it was 1 year in development xD
[16:58] <lifeforms> mhall119: it does work in a windows VM :"( anyway thanks!
[16:58] <nitrub> QUESTION why should I prefer ubuntu os to other os'es out there?
[16:58] <CheeseBurg> With that beard I feel like I am listening to a sage
[16:58] <ulkesh> QUESTION: I'm eager to test Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7 (2013, flo) device.  Is there an ETA on when Ubuntu Touch is available for that device?
[16:58] <Mengine> The big news (apart from this Jedi beard)
[16:58] <Neo31> is it already live ?
[16:58] <ChloeWolfieGirl> It's live!
[16:58] <alexm_> it's live
[16:59] <SirSqueakalot> Yay!
[16:59] <SirSqueakalot> It's not loading on the browser but works on YouTube.
[16:59] <SirSqueakalot> (Not loading on the ubuntuonair.com page)
[16:59] <delsa> hi to all
[16:59] <manu27993> hi
[16:59] <thecosmicfrog_> Not working for me on YouTube either.
[16:59] <donne> hi @ all
[16:59] <jdrab> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGG_GHYzSLs
[16:59] <gbahry> it's a bit slow for me
[16:59] <qermit> its working
[16:59] <QinDenver> Still says "please stand by" from Colorado.
[16:59] <qermit>  \o/
[16:59] <nukleuz> Wondering... The interface looks different. Installed Ubuntu Touch on my GNex for few months ago. Updated it "on air" (from the phone) last weekend. But I cant recognize the UI. Do I need to flash my phone again, to get the new UI?
[17:00] <rufphus> Hello.
[17:00] <pmatulis> hello
[17:00] <FuLgOrE_> because I cannot watch the youtube channel due to the chinese restrictions I just ask my question here and now: Is there a plan to officially support the Nexus 5 / hammerhead? That would be great
[17:00] <jdrab> QinDenver: use the youtube link if ubuntuonair does not work for you
[17:00] <CheeseBurg> For people who can't see the video, it is a Chinese and Europeon phone companies that are making Ubuntu phones.
[17:00] <iBelieve> nukleuz: I think those are new designs that aren't implemented yet
[17:00] <FuLgOrE_> +ed
[17:00] <ogra_> proxtube seems to have an issue with the embedded video
[17:00] <manu27993> mark... r u looking for manufacturer engagements in india?
[17:00] <ogra_> use http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGG_GHYzSLs&pxtry=1
[17:00] <nukleuz> CheeseBurg: Ty m8 :)
[17:00] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Meizu seems excited about the phone xD
[17:00] <pmatulis> FuLgOrE_: start your question with "QUESTION: "
[17:00] <Neo31> i get "please stand by" on youtube
[17:01] <pmatulis> works fine
[17:01] <ahmed_> ok
[17:01] <manu27993> QUESTION : mark... r u looking for manufacturer engagements in india?
[17:01] <slyhedgehog56> Is Three UK on the carrier support list? Seems like their kind of thing to support something like this
[17:01] <Tribaal> I get please stand by as well
[17:01] <MacSlow> ogra_, doesn't work either
[17:01] <fyksen> Meizu is also starting to sell phones in Europe!
[17:01] <QinDenver> Nothing. Even on Youtube's site.
[17:01] <ogra_> MacSlow, works for me now
[17:01] <jono> get your questions in about the news by typing "QUESTION" followed by your question
[17:01] <FuLgOrE_> QUESTION: Is it planned to officially support the Nexus5/hammerhead in the future?
[17:01] <rufphus> QUESTION What went in to the decision to not suppor the Nexus 5 (officially)?
[17:01] <MacSlow> ogra_, lucky you... since when does that GEMA-stuff mess with hangout-videos?
[17:01] <ChloeWolfieGirl> When's google gonna make ubuntu phones xD I'm sure even though you're compotition, I'm sure they'll help out eventually :P
[17:02] <slyhedgehog56> I think Android + Ubuntu in dual boot would make THE perfect phone
[17:02] <jncarlos> Wait.. no nexus 5 image??
[17:02] <qrisubiter> Meizu... and what is this second company (for Europe)?
[17:02] <nikwen> Cannot watch it from Germany. It says "This video isn't available in Germany because it may contain music for which the GEMA didn't grant the music rights." :(
[17:02] <ogra_> MacSlow, no idea, it was the first time i had that
[17:02] <slyhedgehog56> Check XDA, surely they'll have Nexus 5 ports on there
[17:02] <PaulW2U> slyhedgehog56: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/carrier-advisory-group
[17:02] <pmcgowan> nikwen, BQ
[17:02] <MacSlow> ogra_, I hope I get the recording some time later :/
[17:02] <Belogorn> @nikwen for watching from germany use proxtube addon
[17:02] <slyhedgehog56> Yaay :D Three it there!
[17:03] <ogra_> slyhedgehog56, we have experimantal images for N5 in ubuntu alreADY
[17:03] <FuLgOrE_> I checked XDA and I'm running UT on Nexus5. But an official support would be great
[17:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> If Sony made a PSN scope, that would be pretty cool!
[17:03] <jncarlos> It would've been nice to have official support for the N5
[17:03] <ogra_> slyhedgehog56, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install_UT_on_android4.4.2
[17:03] <gonyere> QUESTION: Will any of the phones work on CDMA (aka Verizon) networks?
[17:03] <nikwen> @Belogorn: Thanks for your reply. :)
[17:03] <CheeseBurg> FuLgOrE_: How is it running?
[17:03] <FuLgOrE_> Nexus5: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2594874&page=9
[17:03] <ogra_> jncarlos, we are trying to focus on one device per class ... and N4 is spread across the teams already
[17:04] <FuLgOrE_> It is running very fast and smooth but sound isn't working
[17:04] <manu27993> QUESTION: mark... r u looking for manufacturer engagements in india?
[17:04] <FuLgOrE_> at the moment
[17:04] <biscobestia97> if you are in germany u can use something like tor ... or change your ip
[17:04] <RAZORQ> QUESTION: How many apps are now avaliable for Ubuntu Touch?
[17:04] <ogra_> RAZORQ, 200+
[17:04] <SimonK1> is anyone here watching from Germany? And can tell me how to watch (I'm getting the "GEMA"-Access-denied screen)
[17:04] <CheeseBurg> RAZORQ: Like a 130 last time i checked.
[17:04] <gonyere> (and if possible if I can get a response via IRC that'd be awesome... my connections too slow for the video)
[17:04] <jncarlos> thanks ogra_. The N4 sounds like the most reasonable phone to have support for.
[17:05] <turbinenreiter> proxy tube for watching from germany
[17:05] <gbahry> QUESTION: When will the HTML5 UI look and feel exactly like the native QML UI for Ubuntu Touch apps?
[17:05] <ogra_> turbinenreiter, ++
[17:05] <slyhedgehog56> Anyone know of a version that works on the i9505 (JFLTEXX)? I found one on XDA but it won't boot :(
[17:05] <Belogorn> @SimonK1 I'm watching from germany and using ProxTube browser addon
[17:05] <mhall119> gbahry: yes, it already does
[17:05] <RAZORQ> QUESTION: When will be avaliable stable (for normal user) Ubuntu Touch?
[17:06] <SimonK1> Belogorn, i see :) a shame it is censored already^^
[17:06] <jono> any questions about BQ or Meizu?
[17:06] <jono> ask them by saying QUESTION first
[17:06] <Nijo> QUESTION : When will ubuntu touch officail build for nexus 5 come out???
[17:06] <Egghead_> You with the cute accent
[17:06] <Egghead_> marry me
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[17:06] <nikwen> @Belogorn: Which browser are you using?
[17:06] <ChloeWolfieGirl> GiffGaff and Ting are more customer friendly but they aren't popular ;-;
[17:06] <nikwen> @tim_: The same question goes to you.
[17:07] <ogra_> QUESTION: when can I buy a meizu phone for my mom
[17:07] <gonyere> QUESTION Will either of the phones support CDMA phones? (please answer via irc...)
[17:07] <ogra_> (with ubuntu indeed)
[17:07] <SimonK1> tim_ danke, ich bin grade am installieren ;)
[17:07] <nitrub> does meizu ship worldwide?
[17:07] <turbinenreiter> doesn't the whole carrier thing suck, given their track record of unfreeing stuff - bloat on android phones, locked bootloaders, sim-lock, violations of net neutrality ... .
[17:07] <ogra_> SimonK1, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGG_GHYzSLs&pxtry=1 wenn das embedded video nich geht
[17:07] <sabdfl> hello all
[17:07] <ogra_> hey sabdfl
[17:07] <mrbrookz> hi!
[17:08] <mrgoodcat> Is there a live blog of this anywhere? Cant watch at work
[17:08] <roadmr> QUESTION: BQ is in Europe, Meizu in China, will phones be available only in those markets or can we expect some to be available in the Americas or Africa?
[17:08] <nikwen> @Belogron and tim_: Thanks working now. :)
[17:08] <ogra_> mrgoodcat, it is recorded
[17:08] <Egghead_> Okay real question, how will you monetize an open-source platform and make it survive
[17:08] <Atze> helllo
[17:08] <sabdfl> what a great effort by everybody to bring us to this point
[17:08] <Egghead_> Is this a community venture or a business one
[17:08] <Guest14711> from germany i cant watch this video
[17:08] <Guest14711> any alternative?
[17:08] <gbahry> QUESTION: Would the phones be ready from the beginning to converge into desktop PCs?
[17:08] <ogra_> Guest14711, use the proxtube firefox addon
[17:09] <mrgoodcat> ogra, i guess ill wait then
[17:09] <ogra_> gbahry, no
[17:09] <Egghead_> Yes HTML5 turns me on
[17:09] <npm> is the youtube hangout channel supposed to say "please stand by" or am i having problems?
[17:09] <tim_> iam sorry, but why this please stand by thing?
[17:09] <Egghead_> I feel the sexy feelings about this platform
[17:09] <ogra_> tim_, try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGG_GHYzSLs&pxtry=1
[17:09] <gbahry> ogra_ i mean in terms of hardware
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[17:10] <isantop> tim_, Also, try it from Chrom(e)(ium)
[17:10] <iBelieve> QUESTION: What is/will be the best tablet (that will be supported for a long time) to buy so I can use Ubuntu Touch as a developer?
[17:10] <ogra_> gbahry, not with the first iteration, the Ubuntu Edge would have had the right HW for it
[17:10] <npm> ogra_: that link still gives "please stand by"
[17:10] <Nijo> QUESTION : When will ubuntu touch officail build for nexus 5 come out???
[17:10] <Egghead_> QUESTION: will you marry me
[17:10] <Marcos_> QUESTION Any chances or plans to ship any of the models to latin america?
[17:10] <Nijo> QUESTION : When will ubuntu touch officail build for nexus 5 come out???
[17:10] <pepies> will you marry me ?
[17:10] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: When will the phones come out?
[17:10] <mhall119> questions are being queued, theren's no need to re-ask them
[17:10] <sokolgeo> where to buy your new phone?  when?
[17:10] <Nijo> QUESTION : When will ubuntu touch officail build for nexus 5 come out???
[17:10] <ogra_> iBelieve, the new nexus 7 (flo)
[17:10] <dank2501> QUESTION: carriers have bloated android, can we guarantee this wont happen to ubuntu? I want a clean user experience
[17:10] <gQuigs> QUESTION: release time table?
[17:10] <mhall119> Nijo: wait for them to answer please
[17:10] <helbuns> QUESTION any time table on ubuntu touch nexus 5 support?
[17:10] <Nijo> QUESTION : When will ubuntu touch officail build for nexus 5 come out???
[17:10] <LiamP> QUESTION How does Ubuntu work and effect other open source OSes like Jolla, Firefox OS, Tizen, etc?
[17:10] <zikalify> How long will you provide updates to nexus 4 for?
[17:11] <Adict> QUESTION: Any plans with Fairphone?
[17:11] <slyhedgehog56> QUESTION - Will Ubuntu Touch be released as an alternative to Android devices or to be released along with them e.g. dual boot?
[17:11] <mrbrookz> QUESTION: The mobile partners BQ and Meizu, when are they likely to release ubuntu phones, what tier will they be (expensive phones, or low budget), what hardware might they run?
[17:11] <WhenIsTheDesktop> QUESTION: When is the new Desktop ready?
[17:11] <iBelieve> ogra_: and that will be supported for a long time? I don't want to get something just for it to be dropped
[17:11] <ogra_> helbuns, Nijo, there are no plans for official N5 ports ... but there are experimental images https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install_UT_on_android4.4.2
[17:11] <bclark86> QUESTION : When will Ubuntu Touch be available on the Nexus 7 2013 model?
[17:11] <Egghead_> QUESTION: Is this a community venture or a business one, and how will it interact with and survive in a market-dominated cell pjone landscape
[17:11] <ogra_> iBelieve, no guarantees :)
[17:11] <ulkesh> QUESTION: I'm eager to test Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7 (2013, flo) device.  Is there an ETA on when Ubuntu Touch is available for that device?
[17:11] <rfrapp> QUESTION: Di you think the Ubuntu Edge will ever exist?
[17:11] <GeorgeTom> QUESTION: Will there be some focus on the desktop OS again sometime? Ubuntu on Desktop seems to have been neglected since mobile emerged.
[17:11] <helbuns> ogra: thank you!!!
[17:11] <turbinenreiter> QUESTION: Why should we be happy about the carrier involvment, given their track record of unfreeing stuff? Like SIM-lock, locked bootloaders and so on.
[17:11] <Belogorn> QUESTION: Will the Ubuntu phones be as powerful as the Ubuntu Edge?
[17:11] <ogra_> ulkesh, hopefully next week
[17:11] <rfrapp> *Do
[17:11] <JonathanGurebo> DO I HAVE FULL ACCESS TO MY UBUNTU SMARTPHONE?
[17:11] <iBelieve> ogra_: ok
[17:12] <FunnyLookinHat> QUESTION: Screenshots in the announcement look different with unique tiles and scope results.  Will the SDK soon support adding those within applications and reflect those mockups in Unity Touch?
[17:12] <gbahry> QUESTION: When will Unity 8 be available for proper use on desktop Ubuntu?
[17:12] <ulkesh> ogra_: thanks!
[17:12] <GreenChris> QUESTION When will Convergency be completly ready?
[17:12] <ogra_> ulkesh, also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install_UT_on_android4.4.2for experimental images
[17:12] <timp> JonathanGurebo: "question" should be in caps, and then the question can be in lowercase :)
[17:12] <ulkesh> ogra_: thanks again!
[17:12] <ogra_> gbahry, in 14.10 the first steps are planned for unity8
[17:12] <Leig> QUESTION I'm buying a new phone should I get a Nexus 4, should I wait for an Ubuntu phone? When will there likely be one I can buy?
[17:12] <mhall119> FunnyLookinHat: those screenshots show what's coming to the Dash, it's not app-relatd
[17:12] <kemmotar> QUESTION: When new Unity 8 for desktop will be available?
[17:12] <Egghead_> QUESTIONL Nice beard. Will you keep that cute beard?
[17:12] <ogra_> kemmotar, starting in 14.10
[17:12] <JonathanGurebo> DO I HAVE FULL ACCESS TO MY UBUNTU SMARTPHONE?
[17:12] <jorik_> QUESTION : Will these phones have the possibility to connect a monitor and a mouse and keyboard and use it as a desktop?
[17:13] <FunnyLookinHat>  mhall119 - So - the scopes WILL have those different size elements , yes?  Just trying to make sure mockups are reflecting direction
[17:13] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: How long do you think it will take to get more important, and used applications such as Microsofts Skype and Google's Applications?
[17:13] <ogra_> JonathanGurebo, as much as google has to your android phone
[17:13] <JonathanGurebo> do i have full access to my ubuntu phone?
[17:13] <Ursinha> JonathanGurebo: prefix your questions with QUESTION, and there's no need to repeat as the questions are queued :)
[17:13] <ogra_> JonathanGurebo, upgrading needs root access
[17:13] <mhall119> FunnyLookinHat: that's the plan, to give control over the display of results to the scopes themselves
[17:13] <Botty_> why ubuntu phone haven't italian language ?
[17:13] <Leig> QUESTION is there an Ubuntu phone being released soon like the edge that supports convergence??
[17:13] <FunnyLookinHat> mhall119, fantastic  :)
[17:13] <ogra_> JonathanGurebo, oh, you ... yeah, you do
[17:13] <paulovap_> QUESTION:  Any plans to expand to South America and other emerging markets?
[17:13] <manu27993> QUESTION: Coming to lowend devices, how low can ubuntu for phones touch?
[17:13] <ogra_> Leig, only phone for now ... no desktop mode
[17:13] <mrgoodcat> Leig: depends on how you define soon
[17:13] <conkuer> QUESTION: I buy non-locked, no contract, full price phones like Nexus 5.  Is that the approach with Ubuntu phones?
[17:14] <JonathanGurebo> QUESTION Do I have full access to my ubuntu phone as user and developer? How much access?
[17:14] <qermit> QUESTION: Will ubuntu phone have capability to transform into workstation if i connect USB keyboard and HDMI monitor?
[17:14] <isantop> FunnyLookinHat, You are obsessed with those elements. ;-)
[17:14] <gQuigs> QUESTION: how long will Ubuntu on Mobile be supported for?
[17:14] <Nikten> QUESTION: anybody know some stable image for Galaxy S3?
[17:14] <andrewbiolo> Hello Everyone! Someone can do a summary of the discorse, please? I can't see the video in Germany!!!
[17:14] <kemmotar> QUESTION: When new Unity 8 for desktop will be available?
[17:14] <nakanut> QUESTION: When will country-specific carriers be announced?
[17:14] <rufphus> QUESTION: Could everyone give their favorite feature of the OS in its current state? 1 feature. No cheating. :P
[17:14] <JonathanGurebo> Are al
[17:14] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: When will UTouch be available for the Nexus 7 2013
[17:14] <KleversonRoyther> QUESTION: When the Ubuntu phones are released, will we see a smooher experience on them than on current Nexus devices?
[17:14] <vasil_> QUESTION
[17:15] <vasil_> a
[17:15] <ogra_> ChloeWolfieGirl, next week
[17:15] <ogra_> ChloeWolfieGirl,  there are experimental images already https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install_UT_on_android4.4.2
[17:15] <JonathanGurebo> QUESTION will all desktop apps run on my ubuntu phone? MySQL? other server software over apt-get?
[17:15] <ogra_> JonathanGurebo, no
[17:15] <ogra_> JonathanGurebo, the phone uses Mir ... apps that can use Mir will run
[17:15] <mhall119> running mysql on a phone?
[17:15] <dholbach> kemmotar, we're working on getting a preliminary (tech preview) desktop session out there, but it's still work in progress
[17:15] <vasil_> Are you going to release the ubuntu edge
[17:15] <mrgoodcat> ogra_: shouldn't that not affect cli apps?
[17:15] <KleversonRoyther> QUESTION: What about the new screenshots we've been seeing lately (with a cleaner dash with new buttons and all)? When will these UI changes see the light of day?
[17:16] <ogra_> mrgoodcat, right, cli works
[17:16] <timp> ogra_, JonathanGurebo mysql doesn't need X, so my guess is that it would work
[17:16] <Egghead_> takka takka
[17:16] <ogra_> yes
[17:16] <vasil_> QUESTION: Are you going to release the ubuntu edge
[17:16] <ogra_> vasil_, no, it was not funded
[17:16] <tuxd3v> One of the gold Keys of Ubuntu, is it openess, and freedom to run a lot of app's in a way that we could look to a smartphone like a computer, would Ubuntu Give us that Freedom???I mean would us be allowed to rum a chat server for example or a http server on our Ubuntu phone??
[17:16] <dholbach> Nikten, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices for a list of ports that others are maintaining
[17:16] <oszika05> QUESTION: When will be ubuntu for android released? (sorry for my bad english)
[17:17] <JonathanGurebo> QUESTION when is ubuntu phones expected to be common?
[17:17] <mrgoodcat> QUESTION: are there any major US carriers with expressed interest in releasing a phone in the next 5 years?
[17:17] <Botty_> when will we see the new home of ubuntu touch, like that of the images on the site ..?
[17:17] <GeorgeTom> QUESTION: Will there be some focus on the desktop OS again sometime? Ubuntu on Desktop seems to have been neglected since mobile emerged.
[17:17] <rufphus> QUESTION: Do any of today's guests use Ubuntu Touch as their daily phone?
[17:17] <Nikten> dholbach, i have installed latest build (n°4) yet. but it isn stable version.
[17:18] <ogra_> rufphus, i do ... (not actually a guset though :) )
[17:18] <mrgoodcat> rufphus: i did for a while
[17:18] <ogra_> Nikten, if you experience instrabilities, please file bugs
[17:18] <WhiteMonkey> QUESTION: Will these new devices be able to be used as desktop machines when attached to a monitor, keyboard and mouse?
[17:18] <Macci> Will someone release a phone like the Asus padfone? It is the Perfect Ubuntu Device - make a Tablet from Smartphone - make a Netbook from Tablet!
[17:18] <tuxd3v> QUESTION:One of the gold Keys of Ubuntu, is it openess, and freedom to run a lot of app's in a way that we could look to a smartphone like a computer, would Ubuntu Give us that Freedom???I mean would us be allowed to rum a chat server for example or a http server on our Ubuntu phone??That would be Tremendous key diference betwen all contenders!
[17:18] <ogra_> WhiteMonkey, no
[17:18] <drparny1> QUESTION: Can we expect full convergence - Mir, Desktop convergence, apps convergence, Ubuntu for Android, Unity * and all the goodies in a stable LTS version say the 16.04?
[17:19] <LiamP> QUESTION: In addition to apps, how will Ubuntu Touch support other types of content distribution like ringtones, wallpapers, video, etc?
[17:19] <JonathanGurebo> QUESTION software updates intervall?
[17:19] <ogra_> drparny1, hopefully :)
[17:19] <ogra_> JonathanGurebo, currently it is daily
[17:19] <Egghead_> Neat
[17:19] <Egghead_> Thanks for answering
[17:19] <sabdfl> tuxd3v, yes, pretty much, it's the same code. you'll have to run in a container but you can definitely run anything from the server on the phone
[17:19] <David-WDA> QUESTION How is ubuntu going to address identifiers for advertisers and maintain privacy for it's users?
[17:19] <mrgoodcat> QUESTION: will phone have the same support timeframe as the desktop?
[17:20] <WhiteMonkey> ogra_: the current Nexus 4 build can be plugged into monitor and key/mouse?
[17:20] <eaoden> Hi Nikten
[17:20] <ogra_> David-WDA, http://mdeslaur.blogspot.ca/2013/12/ubuntu-touch-and-user-privacy.html
[17:20] <sabdfl> on the update front - every ubuntu phone will be updated at the same time, not fragmented like android
[17:20] <eaoden> :D
[17:20] <ogra_> WhiteMonkey, no
[17:20] <BOHverkill>  QUESTION: root access on Ubuntu Touch?
[17:20] <ogra_> BOHverkill, on nexust images that is on by default
[17:20] <sabdfl> not all phones will go past an LTS, but they will all get updates till 16.04, then the ones that are capable will go past that, others will stick on 16.04
[17:20] <ogra_> (adb gets you a rootshell immediately)
[17:20] <SimonK1> mrgoodcat dam, i had written exactly the same question^^
[17:20] <Nikten> eaoden, Hi ;)
[17:21] <gQuigs> sabdfl: awesome!
[17:21] <mrgoodcat> QUESTION: will ubuntu touch auto update or will you need to explicitly update it
[17:21] <K_Peignot> QUESTION : Is Ubuntu TV still alive or is it abandonned in the profit of phones/tablets/desktop
[17:21] <gQuigs> ^about the updates
[17:21] <vasil_> QUESTION:will you eneble developers to make comunity versions of ubuntu touch
[17:21] <mhall119> vasil_: already do
[17:21] <isantop> QUESTION What are the expectations for ensuring timely updates for all devices?
[17:21] <JonathanGurebo> QUESTION Can you do the 'neardy' stuff like terminal and so on?
[17:21] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: What separates Ubuntu from other distros is a goal and a plan. what is Ubuntu's next 5 year plan?
[17:21] <ogra_> mrgoodcat, it will autoupdate ... currently you need to tap on "update"
[17:21] <eaoden> QUESTION: I can't watch the video with Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander and Firefox :(
[17:21] <Marcos_> QUESTION is this phone going to be deliver to latin america or emerging markets are going to be relegated?
[17:21] <mhall119> JonathanGurebo: terminal is in the default image right now
[17:21] <ogra_> JonathanGurebo, yes
[17:22] <Ultimo_> like a tablet with a keyboard? :-)
[17:22] <Egghead_> I am excited just hearing about my phone being my desktop
[17:22] <devrat> How close to the desktop is the Ubuntu Phone going to be?
[17:22] <JonathanGurebo> QUESTION What Cloud services is included?
[17:22] <mrgoodcat> sabdfl: after phones that "aren't capable" stick at 16.04, will they continue to receive security updates? or will they be SOL?
[17:22] <ogra_> vasil_, they already exist (more or less)
[17:22] <surgemcgee> QUESTION: Are there plans for developer goodies like SMS notifications and other Phongap plugin like stuff?
[17:22] <eaoden> Tht's a good question devrat
[17:22] <David-WDA> QUESTION How is ubuntu going to address identifiers for advertisers and maintain user privacy for mobile devices?
[17:22] <WanAizuddin> How about vmware that run on ubuntu for example when we open application like microsoft office.
[17:22] <daki20> QUESTION Will there be any sync-software available for pc?
[17:22] <gabigtr123> will be avalible ubuntu touch gor acer cloud mobile s 500
[17:22] <ogra_> David-WDA, read http://mdeslaur.blogspot.ca/2013/12/ubuntu-touch-and-user-privacy.html
[17:23] <complaint> Stream is NOT AVAILABLE in Germany because of music rights! Thanks a lot!
[17:23] <Egghead_> QUESTION what will be the interaction between android and ubuntu? It won't happen because of proprietary stuff right?
[17:23] <ogra_> daki20, the devices usupport MTP today, is that enough ?
[17:23] <mhall119> complaint: which is funny, because there's no music
[17:23] <newagehascome> Question: Regarding dualboot, is theregoing to be any way to update the ubuntu image from the system settings instead of uninstalling from the dual boot app on android and installing it from the official ubuntu channel(could save possibly MB's of data i believe)
[17:23] <mrgoodcat> QUESTION: after phones that "aren't capable" stick at 16.04, will they continue to receive security updates? or will they be SOL?
[17:23] <ogra_> complaint, use proxtube
[17:23] <ogra_> complaint, works fine here
[17:23] <bladernr_> QUESTION: will the phone image have the same level of kernel churn and ABI change as the full distro does (for example, how every LTS point release is a completely new kernel, rather than a minor update to a single kernel version)?
[17:23] <ogra_> complaint, (firefox addon)
[17:24] <mhall119> mrgoodcat: questions are queued, there's no need to repeat them
[17:24] <mrgoodcat> mhall119: i wanted to change it from addressing a specific user to QUESTION
[17:24] <markdude> COMMENT: Mr S, I feel the need to point out your beard rocks! FOSS needs more stylish facial hair :)
[17:24] <ogra_> bladernr_, currently we use the android hardware stack ... including the kernel so there are not many kernel upgrades atm
[17:25] <bladernr_> ogra_: ack
[17:25] <tuxd3v> QUESTION: Will we continue to administrate ubuntu for phones in the same way that we do in computers??I mean, with the same root structure in filesystem , etc?because android its a nightmare with this.
[17:25] <Belogron_> QUESTION: WILL it be possible to change e.g. the entire color scheme?
[17:25] <snwh> QUESTION: these devices from bq and Meizu, will they original designs for Ubuntu or simply existing hardware from these manufacturers with Ubuntu as its OS?
[17:25] <ogra_> tuxd3v, it has a normal ubuntu rootfs (but readonly by default )
[17:25] <vasil_> QUESTION:Will ubuntu eneble developersto make comunity versions
[17:25] <Egghead_> Seriously that beard is great
[17:25] <Egghead_> I love it
[17:25] <JonathanGurebo> QUESTION sync-software like iTunes?
[17:25] <IsaacReidGuest> Where within Europe are Ubuntu Phones planned to be released?
[17:25] <slyhedgehog56> QUESTION - Will Ubuntu be released in it's own line of devices or will it be available to install on devices as an option form Android etc. ? So like it is on PC's now?
[17:25] <ElectroPug> Hey people, I missed the stream, does anyone know where i can watch it now?
[17:25] <Egghead_> GREAT BEARD
[17:26] <slyhedgehog56> It's live now!
[17:26] <jorgenvedom> QUESTION:Where do you see the OS in 5 years time.
[17:26] <ogra_> vasil_, yes, they already exist https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[17:26] <IsaacReidGuest> QUESTION - Where within Europe are Ubuntu Phones planned to be released?
[17:26] <Abdulaziz> Will you support Arab users
[17:26] <bladernr_> Egghead_: yes, Mark's Beard is awesome.  Jono and rickspencer3 need to grow beards too ;-)
[17:26] <LiamP> Thanks Mark!
[17:26] <ogra_> Abdulaziz, why wouldnt we
[17:26] <eaoden> ElectroPug At the top of the window
[17:26] <Nivex> QUESTION: Is Ubuntu working with carriers to ensure these devices work fully with IPv6?
[17:26] <rickspencer3> bladernr_, I've been down that road, it's not a pretty place
[17:26] <ogra_> Abdulaziz, Ubuntu for phones will support the same amount of languages Ubuntu desktop supportes
[17:26] <ElectroPug> eaoden you mean UbuntuOnAir?
[17:27] <complaint> proxtube installed - still nothing!
[17:27] <K30PS> when will we see the first ubuntu phone?
[17:27] <ogra_> complaint, try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGG_GHYzSLs&pxtry=1
[17:27] <complaint> u! now
[17:27] <complaint> thanks
[17:27] <ogra_> :)
[17:27] <complaint> gosh! :-/
[17:27] <JonathanGurebo> QUESTION Is this Ubuntu phone desktop class?
[17:27]  * ogra_ was suffering the same 
[17:27] <ogra_> JonathanGurebo, no
[17:27] <SirSqueakalot> squeak
[17:27] <markdude> +1 Jono beard. Possibly Salvador Dali style XD
[17:27] <ElectroPug> whoops, alright thanks the video din't work a few seconds ago so i thought it was either down or over :)
[17:27] <omar__> Is the first Ubuntu touch phone going to be available internationally? And is the phone going ot have desktop capabilities? Like terminal? Gimp? And access to all the standard ubuntu repos?
[17:28] <eaoden> ElectroPug Yes, if you can watch the video
[17:28] <JonathanGurebo> QUESTION Can you make it more as a desktop device? change user-agent, adobe flash, java
[17:28] <EATSHRIP> will ubuntu touch be available on the nexus 5?
[17:29] <bladernr_> QUESTION, I think following omar_, anyone know if the first models will be multi-band and unlocked so they can be easily used internationally with local SIMs?  I'm presuming yes, but confirmation would be nice.
[17:29] <ogra_> EATSHRIP, yes, but not officially supported ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install_UT_on_android4.4.2 has experimental images already
[17:29] <bclark86> is there competition from other traditional Linux desktop distros for the mobile market e.g. Linux Mint or Debian
[17:29] <ogra_> bclark86, not really atm
[17:29] <Marcos_> QUESTION What phone do you use Mark? Do you use an Ubutnu phone?
[17:30] <ogra_> bclark86, firefoxOS and jolla are rather the "competition"
[17:30] <vasil_> QUESTION:When will touch 2.0 land
[17:30] <ogra_> vasil_, end of april with the trusty release
[17:30] <bclark86> thanks for the answer
[17:30] <sreeraj> so will nexus 4 be the refernce phone for ubuntu touch quiet a long time???
[17:30] <ogra_> yes
[17:30] <JonathanGurebo> QUESTION Can I install java, adobe flash
[17:30] <sreeraj> QUESTION : so will nexus 4 be the refernce phone for ubuntu touch quiet a long time???
[17:31] <eaoden> ogra_ Hi, why wouldn't you work together with the Firefox OS community to build the smartphone ?
[17:31] <snwh> funny how the answers to their favourites related to what they do at canonical ;)
[17:31] <conkuer> QUESTION: Why is Rick Spencer such a badass?
[17:31] <ogra_> eaoden, because we build different systems ... our html5 apps should run on their phone though and vice versa
[17:31] <sreeraj> QUESTION : so will nexus 4 be the refernce phone for ubuntu touch quiet a long time???
[17:31] <sreeraj> QUESTION : so will nexus 4 be the refernce phone for ubuntu touch quiet a long time???
[17:31] <sreeraj> QUESTION : so will nexus 4 be the refernce phone for ubuntu touch quiet a long time???
[17:31] <sreeraj> QUESTION : so will nexus 4 be the refernce phone for ubuntu touch quiet a long time???
[17:31] <sreeraj> QUESTION : so will nexus 4 be the refernce phone for ubuntu touch quiet a long time???
[17:31] <ogra_> (with minor adjustments)
[17:31] <dshimer> Thanks so much, it's always appreciated!
[17:31] <sreeraj> QUESTION : so will nexus 4 be the refernce phone for ubuntu touch quiet a long time???
[17:31] <sreeraj> QUESTION : so will nexus 4 be the refernce phone for ubuntu touch quiet a long time???
[17:31] <sreeraj> QUESTION : so will nexus 4 be the refernce phone for ubuntu touch quiet a long time???
[17:31] <Nivex> sreeraj: easy there killer
[17:31] <sreeraj> QUESTION : so will nexus 4 be the refernce phone for ubuntu touch quiet a long time???
[17:31] <ogra_> sreeraj, yes
[17:31] <sreeraj> QUESTION : so will nexus 4 be the refernce phone for ubuntu touch quiet a long time???
[17:31] <LiamP> Thanks guys! You guys are awesome.
[17:32] <ElectroPug> sreeraj calm down man
[17:32] <bclark86> thanks guys
[17:32] <David-WDA> Thanks. and spammer cool it.
[17:32] <jdrab> awesome..
[17:32] <mhall119> if you want to talk more about the development of Ubuntu for phones, join #ubuntu-touch, and if you are interested in apps join #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:32] <rickspencer3> hi sreeraj
[17:32] <sabdfl> sreeraj, yes
[17:32] <mrbrookz> Nice work, great announcements!
[17:32] <rickspencer3> I can say that I personally have a Nexus 4
[17:32] <rickspencer3> :)
[17:32] <sabdfl> me too
[17:32] <JonathanGurebo> QUESTION When is next sream?
[17:32] <manu27993> QUESTION: mark... y r u so awesome
[17:32] <sreeraj> sorry just curious
[17:32] <sabdfl> manu27993, it's the beard
[17:32] <jdrab> JonathanGurebo: http://ubuntuonair.com/calendar/
[17:33] <eaoden> Is it over now ? :(
[17:33] <WanAizuddin> exit
[17:33] <WanAizuddin> quit
[17:33] <WanAizuddin> close
[17:33] <eaoden> */exit
[17:33] <andvarp> xD
[17:33] <Alex______> QUESTION What will the hardware options look like for Ubuntu for Phones
[17:33] <SimonK1> did they say anything about "how long those smartphones will be updated"?
[17:33] <jdrab> aand puff their gone :D
[17:33] <WhiteMonkey> thank you guys!
[17:33] <WanAizuddin> */exit
[17:33] <WanAizuddin> exit
[17:33] <WanAizuddin> Thank you.
[17:33] <BOHverkill> thx!!!
[17:34] <eaoden> WaiAizuddin No, you write "/exit"
[17:35] <Nikten> Excuse me but i'm italian and i don't speak english very well. can anyone say me what's happened on this Hangout?
[17:36] <lutostag> ~/part
[17:36] <krabador> hi people, it's possible to pose question , later?
[17:36] <Peace-> krabador: no
[17:36] <krabador> ok
[17:36] <Peace-> lol
[17:36] <krabador> :D
[17:38] <tuxd3v> QUESTION: what are the companys that will create smartphones for ubuntu??
[17:38] <SonikkuAmericca> You are streaming.
[17:40] <Oni_Shadow> totaly out of the subject but will unity be available on other linux distibution?
[17:40] <krabador> Oni_Shadow, yes, on some
[17:40] <krabador> like arch
[17:41] <tuxd3v> QUESTION: what are the companys that will create smartphones for ubuntu??I mean the literal names
[17:41] <tuxd3v> thanks
[17:41] <Peace-> meizu tuxd3v
[17:41] <eaoden> Out of topic but will be Skype available for Linux on an upper distribution than 10.04 ? :D
[17:42] <Oni_Shadow> great I tried arch a couple of weeks ago but after a month, i missed unity so much that i install back ubuntu :p
[17:42] <tuxd3v> meizu in a chineso one, and the other(european)
[17:42] <tuxd3v> ?
[17:42] <eaoden> I mean, Ubuntu (sorry)
[17:42] <krabador> Peace-, i told to you, yo buy a meizu
[17:42] <krabador> but you not
[17:42] <Oni_Shadow> eaoden: it is
[17:42] <eaoden> Uh ?
[17:42] <Peace-> krabador: hey i spent 239 euro for a phone and i will not pay 400 for a phone
[17:42] <Oni_Shadow> you have to launch it with a weird command but it is
[17:43] <Peace-> krabador: for me 250 it's the max that a phone should cost
[17:43] <ogra_> tuxd3v, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/bq-meizu-ubuntu-smartphones-confirmed-for-2014-release
[17:44] <eaoden> Peace-: That's because you use your phone in a different way.
[17:44] <tuxd3v> thanks ogra, I was unable to understand the name to query google for it, but now I know...bq the spanish company ;)
[17:44] <tuxd3v> Ilike that ;)
[17:44] <Peace-> krabador: i have an 8 core phone with 2 gb of ram eaoden
[17:44] <tuxd3v> thanks
[17:44] <ogra_> right, and meizu
[17:44] <tuxd3v> yeah
[17:44] <very_cinnamon> congrazt on meizu! ±D
[17:44] <very_cinnamon> :D
[17:44] <ogra_> :D
[17:44] <eaoden> Peace-: 8 core ? Isn't it a phablet ?
[17:45] <Peace-> eaoden: it's a 5.5 inch phone
[17:45] <krabador> ogra_, i don't think so
[17:45] <eaoden> Peace-: Okay, but what is your OS ?
[17:45] <MAHARSHI> Any Indian Company You are contact for CAG or Product Manufacturing.................?
[17:45] <krabador> ogra_, you never help to realize the ril support on ubuntu touch for samsung i9100
[17:45] <Peace-> eaoden: android of course
[17:45] <ogra_> krabador, sorry ? you dont think what ?
[17:45] <spider623> is it over?
[17:46] <MAHARSHI> QUESTION Any Indian Company You are contact for CAG or Product Manufacturing.................?
[17:46] <gbahry> bye
[17:46] <ogra_> krabador, i'm not working on the ril layer ... talk to awe on #ubuntu-touch
[17:47] <Peace-> eaoden: for me 250 euros it's the max you can ask to linux people , 400 euro it's just too much and few people will buy it
[17:47] <eaoden> Peace-: I bought a low-cost laptop with 8 virtual cores and 8 GB of RAM. Now I regret.
[17:47] <WhiteMonkey> if it's good people will pay
[17:47] <eaoden> Peace-: Yes, but it's the better phone, isn't it ?
[17:47] <Peace-> eaoden: we are speaking of phone or laptop?
[17:48] <eaoden> Peace-: Of brands. And quality.
[17:48] <WhiteMonkey> if it can be a converged device people will pay more
[17:48] <Peace-> eaoden: well if you buy meizu don't aspect a samsung quality
[17:48] <ubuntu_gamer> convergence, does this mean we can play linux games on our ubuntu phones
[17:48] <ubuntu_gamer> ?
[17:48] <krabador> ogra_, i'm joking :D, but sometime i talk to you on #ubuntu-touch
[17:49] <eaoden> Peace-: I don't know the Samsung quality. I bought an iPhone. Jokes on me ! :-(
[17:49] <Peace-> hahahah
[17:49] <mrgoodcat> ubuntu_gamer: it would have to support mir and touch interface
[17:49] <tuxd3v> WOOWW  the meizu mx3 its fantastic!!and its a great contender for convergence!!
[17:49] <ogra_> krabador, i'm very swamped with nexus work, but i would love to move on with the galaxy S2 port some day, seems max wallsted doesnt do much anymore
[17:49] <ubuntu_gamer> ah, cuz that would be awesome! :D
[17:49] <Peace-> eaoden: samsung galaxy s4 it's a very good phone i prefer over iphone
[17:49] <ubuntu_gamer> thanks :D
[17:50] <krabador> ogra_, completly true what you said. wallsted don't do anything
[17:50] <eaoden> Peace-: Sincerely, I can understand some people like Apple in some ways but it's a luxury brand and I prefer Firefox OS or Ubuntu touch
[17:50] <tuxd3v> but the screen is to large...since we could in future use a external lcd panel!
[17:50] <Peace-> ok questions :  you will go for a expensive strategy phone or not?
[17:50] <Peace-> ok questions :  you will go for a expensive strategy phone or not?
[17:50] <Peace-> ok questions :  you will go for a expensive strategy phone or not?
[17:50] <krabador> ogra_, it's almost dead
[17:50] <krabador> Peace-, it's not on air
[17:51] <Peace-> krabador: they are not ? wtf
[17:51] <krabador> not
[17:51] <Peace-> shame on me
[17:51] <tuxd3v> :D
[17:51] <krabador> Peace-, i got wrong too
[17:51] <ogra_> Peace-, it is over. it was only 30min
[17:51] <Peace-> oh ok
[17:51] <beuno> leave
[17:52] <eaoden> ogra_: I'm sorry if you already said that but I can't watch the video, will a phone running Ubuntu touch be able to run like a desktop connected to a screen ?
[17:59] <unixpablo> I lost the live. D:
[18:02] <mrgoodcat> unixpablo: its over i think
[18:02] <mrgoodcat> someone correct me if i'm wrong
[18:05] <kartik> hi
[18:10] <RR_> hi
[18:11] <mrgoodcat> hi
[18:12] <PaulW2U> live broadcast ended at around 1730 GMT
[18:16] <unixpablo> Hello! My name is Pablo. I'm from Brazil.
[18:18] <unixpablo> I hope USA stop to kill in another country like Venezuela and Ukraine.
[18:37] <gurra> when will a ubuntu phone be available in europe?
[18:37] <mrgoodcat> ls
[18:37] <mrgoodcat> oh damn wrong window
[23:13] <abusado> so where can we buy these phones?  how much?
[23:51] <kmdude344> Am I late?
[23:52] <kmdude344> Aw I was late, oh well.