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| prgCoder | hi all, I am trying to compile some Embedded SQL/C programs on ubuntu server 12.04 and I keep getting the following error: | 04:16 |
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| prgCoder | libq.1.so: undefined reference to 'IIGchkobj' | 04:17 |
| prgCoder | ans some others - any ideas ? | 04:17 |
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| lifeless | hallyn: hey - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1228977 | 05:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1228977 in nova "n-cpu seems to crash when running with libvirt 1.1.1 from ubuntu cloud archive" [High,Confirmed] | 05:12 |
| lifeless | hallyn: its targeted to saucy, but doesn't appear to have had the changeset pulled in | 05:12 |
| lifeless | hallyn: there seems to be some procedural issue blocking it | 05:13 |
| hallyn | lifeless: yeah it needed the sru justification. i was waiting on a test case. thanks for providing it :) | 05:35 |
| lifeless | we'll see about running a test with it for you | 05:35 |
| lifeless | hallyn: do you need to update teh build in proposed to include the security updates? | 05:35 |
| hallyn | great, thanks. | 05:35 |
| hallyn | hm, maybe. i didn't see the security updates go by | 05:36 |
| hallyn | i only see an 1.1.1-0ubuntu8.5, so should be ok | 05:37 |
| hallyn | gotta run - ttyl | 05:38 |
| lifeless | hallyn: ciao | 06:08 |
| mastershake | hey guys im getting a "The system network service is not compatible with this version" error, can anyone lend a hand for a moment? | 06:21 |
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| mastershake | anyone? | 06:32 |
| sarnold | mastershake: is that an exact quote or a guess? | 06:33 |
| mastershake | sarnold: just a question... i keep getting a "The system network service is not compatible with this version" error | 06:34 |
| mastershake | and i dont know how to correct it | 06:34 |
| sarnold | hrm, I can't find that string in the debian code search | 06:37 |
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| mastershake | you dont have to be rude about it | 06:43 |
| sarnold | mastershake: sorry, it's not rude, just stating that my primary tool, source code, isn't much help here :/ | 06:43 |
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| hxm | hi, why is this? http://apaste.info/6Fb5 | 07:38 |
| hxm | changed resolv | 07:40 |
| zetheroo | is there a way to stop jbd2 from running on certain disks? | 08:23 |
| Bitwise | Hello. I've set up postfix, dovecot, and roundcube, seemingly unsuccessfully. When I send an email using roundcube, the recipient never receives it. Same result with result with telnet. I'm thinking there is a problem with the postfix configuration but I really haven't changed much. | 08:35 |
| mardraum | Bitwise: read mail.log | 08:37 |
| Bitwise | mardraum, Touche. I tried to send an email to my gmail account: (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=gmail.com type=MX: Host not found, try again) | 08:38 |
| mardraum | sounds like dns is broken | 08:44 |
| Bitwise | I did postqueue -f and now it says network is unreachable and connection timed out. | 08:52 |
| mardraum | is your dns working | 08:54 |
| Bitwise | Well I'm connected and browsing the net fine right now. | 08:55 |
| mardraum | from the mail server? | 08:55 |
| Bitwise | I'm running the mail server on my primary machine. | 08:56 |
| mardraum | I don't know what that means | 08:56 |
| Bitwise | Yes, I'm browsing the web from my mail server. | 08:58 |
| Bitwise | Are the first two lines correct? http://pastebin.com/S15yrCGn | 08:59 |
| zetheroo | is there a way to stop jbd2 from running on certain disks? | 09:50 |
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| love12 | guys i have squid3 installled in debian but there is aproblem when i try to test from the serever"The system returned: (111) Connection refused" | 11:25 |
| ikonia | so #debian would be the right channel to talk about that in | 11:27 |
| ikonia | you can join that channel with "/join #debian" | 11:27 |
| zetheroo | is it possible to stop jbd2 from running on certain disks? | 12:02 |
| ikonia | zetheroo: it's a kenrel process, as I understand it, it needs to access each disk | 12:05 |
| ikonia | zetheroo: you can tune it for each disk/file system though | 12:05 |
| zetheroo | ikonia: it's very unwanted for disks on which we have live VM images ;) | 12:05 |
| ikonia | it may well be possible, but I think you'll have to "tune it" not to run, as opposed to disable it | 12:06 |
| ikonia | if you get what I mean | 12:06 |
| zetheroo | ok ... kinda ... | 12:06 |
| zetheroo | how does one go about "tuning" it? | 12:07 |
| ikonia | hdparm | 12:07 |
| zetheroo | hmmm ... I have only ever used hdparm for modifying the spin-down settings | 12:08 |
| ikonia | to be honest, the same here | 12:09 |
| ikonia | well, and a few other very minor settings | 12:09 |
| zetheroo | isn't jbd2 the journaling process? | 12:13 |
| zetheroo | I am trying to find how hdparm can be used to "tune" jbd2 ... all I see is how to use it to change the spin-down settings ... | 12:15 |
| wiherek | hi | 13:36 |
| wiherek | I am setting up a vpn, on Ubuntu | 13:36 |
| wiherek | when I set up the localip, should I keep my current ip? | 13:37 |
| wiherek | or can it be some other value? | 13:37 |
| roadmr | Hello ubuntu-server people. We're looking at removing checkbox (checkbox-cli package) from the ubuntu server image for several reasons. I'd like to ask if anybody has objections about this (or really any other comment about it) | 14:29 |
| jrwren | its already not in cloudimg, so I'm all for it :) | 14:35 |
| roadmr | jrwren: hehe :) | 14:35 |
| zul | roadmr: why? | 14:42 |
| roadmr | zul: the candidate replacement has some packaging issues so we're looking at options to avoid delivering a bad experience | 14:53 |
| zul | roadmr: ok cool | 14:53 |
| roadmr | zul: removing it is the "easy way out" but we may have a solution to keep it if people would still prefer to have it | 14:54 |
| zul | roadmr: im ambivalent to it :) | 14:54 |
| roadmr | zul: cool, feedback appreciated :) | 14:55 |
| rbasak | roadmr: maybe email the ubuntu-server mailing list? I don't think anybody will object, but we should make some reasonable effort to check with any stakeholders. Are there any other suitable lists? | 14:55 |
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| roadmr | rbasak: maybe maas would be interested. The mailing list idea is good, but if you don't see an e-mail from me, it means we found a way to keep it alive :) | 14:56 |
| rbasak | OK, sounds good :) | 14:57 |
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| hallyn | rbasak: what would be the best way to snapshot a uvt-kvm vm? | 16:56 |
| RoyK | hallyn: what's uvt? | 16:58 |
| rbasak | hallyn: however libvirt suggests doing it, so with virsh directly. I tried the other day though, and couldn't get it working. Pretty sure it's not libvirt-specific. | 16:58 |
| rbasak | hallyn: if it's awkward we can have uvtool wrap it, but I need to know how to do it with libvirt first :) | 16:59 |
| hallyn | RoyK: uvtool (see package in trusty) it lets you quickly create/use ubuntu-cloud-iamge-based libvirt vms | 16:59 |
| * rbasak has been writing documentation this week | 16:59 | |
| RoyK | k | 16:59 |
| hallyn | RoyK: http://s3hh.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/quickly-run-ubuntu-cloud-images-locally-using-uvtool/ | 16:59 |
| RoyK | hi all. I have eth0 on int 19, and all interrupts are processed by core0, which is getting rather hot with >10k interrupts/s. I've set smp_affinity to 0f, having 4 cores, but it's still stuck at core 0. any idea why? | 17:00 |
| rbasak | Manpages specifically. Server guide later. | 17:00 |
| hallyn | rbaska: sounds good, thanks | 17:00 |
| hallyn | gah. rbasak: ^ | 17:00 |
| jrwren | that is awesome, thanks for that. | 17:00 |
| jrwren | i'd been doing the virsh create manually | 17:00 |
| hallyn | RoyK: might ask on #ubuntu-kernel... i would expect smp_affinity to DTRT... might be a bug | 17:01 |
| RoyK | DTRT? | 17:01 |
| jrwren | would be sweet if that uvt-kvm had a way to pass user-data to cloud-init | 17:02 |
| rbasak | jrwren: --user-data :) | 17:02 |
| rbasak | (sorry the manpage isn't written yet!) | 17:02 |
| jrwren | rbasak: a file? | 17:02 |
| rbasak | jrwren: yes, or there are options to add common things for you automatically | 17:02 |
| jrwren | excellent, thanks. | 17:02 |
| rbasak | eg. --ssh-public-key-file, --packages, --password, --run-script-once, etc. | 17:03 |
| jrwren | this is great. how easy is it to bzr branch lp:uvtool and run out of trunk? | 17:04 |
| rbasak | jrwren: ppa:uvtool-dev/trunk :) | 17:04 |
| jrwren | i mean I might want to patch. | 17:04 |
| rbasak | I run PYTHONPATH=. python bin/uvt-kvm. That works from the source tree. | 17:04 |
| foolhardy | after clean install, ubuntu server x32 hangs on boot at "fsck from util-linux" | 18:36 |
| foolhardy | strangely, going into recovery mode and selecting "resume normal boot" bypasses the issue | 18:37 |
| foolhardy | any idea how to fix it permanently | 18:37 |
| foolhardy | ? | 18:37 |
| foolhardy | http://i.imgur.com/EGN3uiu.png | 18:38 |
| foolhardy | fresh install of ubuntu server 32bit. first boot this happens: http://i.imgur.com/nJTv3ru.png and then http://i.imgur.com/EGN3uiu.png | 19:20 |
| foolhardy | any idea why? | 19:20 |
| RoyK | nothing else? | 19:21 |
| sarnold | first boot looks normal | 19:21 |
| sarnold | or, rather, nothin in the first boot screenshot looks surprising to me | 19:21 |
| jrwren | http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes no 12.04.3 or 12.04.4 notes | 19:25 |
| foolhardy | I was worried that the ureadahead main process (246) terminated ... was a problem | 19:25 |
| sarnold | foolhardy: naah, ureadahead is always complaining about something. I just uninstall it. | 19:25 |
| foolhardy | it hangs here: http://i.imgur.com/EGN3uiu.png | 19:26 |
| foolhardy | never moves on | 19:26 |
| sarnold | now that -is- an issue :/ | 19:26 |
| RoyK | foolhardy: can you boot it in single? | 19:27 |
| foolhardy | single? | 19:27 |
| foolhardy | going into recover mode and then selecting "resume normal startup" bypasses the issue | 19:27 |
| RoyK | recovery mode == single user mode | 19:27 |
| foolhardy | gotcha | 19:28 |
| foolhardy | dpkg and fsck do not fix | 19:28 |
| RoyK | fsck -f? | 19:28 |
| foolhardy | haven't tried that, doing now | 19:28 |
| RoyK | dpkg has nothing to do with this | 19:28 |
| RoyK | don't fsck a mounted filesystem | 19:28 |
| RoyK | unless it's mounted read only | 19:29 |
| foolhardy | http://i.imgur.com/Tbzlcjt.png | 19:29 |
| RoyK | looks good | 19:29 |
| RoyK | foolhardy: any reason for using 32bit? | 19:29 |
| foolhardy | it is virtualized so in trying to use as little resources as possible this vm has 1gb ram | 19:30 |
| foolhardy | I read that 64bit with less than 4gb ram runs very slowly | 19:30 |
| bekks | foolhardy: Thats a lie. | 19:31 |
| jpds | 'very slowly' ? I've never had that problem. | 19:31 |
| foolhardy | no? | 19:31 |
| bekks | foolhardy: No. | 19:31 |
| foolhardy | I have another vm with 2gb running 64bit but it is live now so I cannot change/replace it. I've never noticed an issue with it but I'm not guru. | 19:31 |
| foolhardy | ok, then. I'll just use 64bit | 19:31 |
| foolhardy | thanks a lot for the info | 19:32 |
| sarnold | foolhardy: 64 bit in 'small' machines does waste some memory for the double-sized pointers, but the extra registers on the CPU and indirect addressing modes of the CPU are fantastic for processing speed | 19:32 |
| RoyK | foolhardy: you can use 512MB for a 64bit VM without issues | 19:32 |
| RoyK | just depends what you're running on it | 19:32 |
| foolhardy | tomcat server is it | 19:32 |
| RoyK | I've had VMs with as low as 128MB on 64bit | 19:32 |
| foolhardy | /java | 19:32 |
| foolhardy | well, great. THanks a lot for the great info. | 19:32 |
| foolhardy | I love you. | 19:33 |
| sarnold | (though in all honesty, 32bit _should_ work better than this.) | 19:33 |
| foolhardy | this is 12.04 lts. I had the same issue with 12.04.3 about six months ago and thats why I went 64bit on the other "live" machine. Only later to read that this was bad with less than 4gb. | 19:33 |
| RoyK | sarnold: obviously, yes | 19:34 |
| foolhardy | But now I know better. | 19:34 |
| foolhardy | 64bit 4eva | 19:34 |
| RoyK | foolhardy: saving resources by running in 32bit might not be a good idea. the 32bit instruction set has fewer registers, so things can't be optimized that well | 19:35 |
| sarnold | at some point in the future ubuntu will have support for a mixed mode of 32bit addressing but with the full 64bit instruction set, which will provide -some- memory savings for small vm instances, but I can't imagine that it'd free up more than 3-5% of memory | 19:38 |
| bekks | Well, basically there is no need to ride the dead horse named "32bit" when having 64bit hardware. | 19:42 |
| RoyK | bekks: indeed | 19:44 |
| RoyK | standardising on a common platform just makes things easier | 19:45 |
| RoyK | not that everything should run AMD64, but still | 19:45 |
| bekks | 32bit is dead for more than a decade in almost all home computers - and it's artifically revived by 32bit netbooks. | 19:47 |
| RoyK | bekks: I don't think there are much 32bit netbooks anymore | 19:50 |
| RoyK | even atom has been 64bit for years | 19:50 |
| bekks | RoyK: Yeah do have 64bit atoms nowadays, but there are still zillions of 32bit netbooks in use out there. | 19:51 |
| RoyK | sure - I have one ;) | 19:52 |
| bekks | Me too :P | 19:52 |
| RoyK | but the netbooks more or less died out when the pads came around | 19:52 |
| paco11 | hello masters! | 20:41 |
| * RoyK waves | 20:42 | |
| paco11 | i have 12.04 with kernel 3.8.0-35-generic x64. It's fully supported to install the "saucy" kernel? (linux-image-generic-lts-saucy|linux-image-3.11.0-17-generic). thanks very much! | 20:43 |
| RoyK | paco11: why do you need 3.11? | 20:44 |
| paco11 | to avoid the performance problem with kernels 3.0 to 3.9 | 20:45 |
| paco11 | RoyK: what do you think? | 20:52 |
| RoyK | paco11: what are those performance issues? | 20:57 |
| paco11 | write performance | 20:59 |
| rabbel | clear | 21:07 |
| bekks | paco11: Can you be more precise please? I havent noticed "the performance issue" yet, using Linux on a variety of boxes. | 21:07 |
| paco11 | i have good write performance in my ldap servers with 2.6.32 than 3.8.0 | 21:10 |
| bekks | I dont have any issue with 3.2.0, 3.5, 3.8 as well. | 21:13 |
| paco11 | http://lwn.net/Articles/486311/ | http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1309.1/01585.html | http://www.openldap.org/lists/openldap-technical/201309/msg00187.html | 21:22 |
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| foolhardy | anyone here run ubuntu server in proxmox? | 21:33 |
| sarnold | heh, I saw the question before the nick, I was just about to say "hey foolhardy does..." :) | 21:38 |
| foolhardy | My issue from earlier apparently wasn't connected directly with the 32bit edition, nor a single proxmox node. :/ | 21:38 |
| sarnold | :/ | 21:38 |
| foolhardy | I can duplicate the issue on two different machines | 21:39 |
| sponzor | hi. my server is having 100% rame usage 24/7 http://pastebin.com/gNktmvzN | 21:41 |
| sponzor | host is on esxi server | 21:41 |
| sponzor | the rest of the server have normal usage.. but this one having 100 all the time | 21:42 |
| sarnold | sponzor: what do the swap in and swap out columns of 'vmstat 1' look like? | 21:42 |
| hitsujiTMO | sponzor: its only using 50% ram there | 21:43 |
| hitsujiTMO | sponzor: read the -/+ buffers/cache line. thats how much ram is actually being used. the rest is just filesystem buffering which gets dumped the moment an app actually needs the ram | 21:44 |
| sarnold | sponzor: in general "unused ram is wasted ram" -- but if you're seeing swap traffic, that could be indicative of something worse | 21:46 |
| sarnold | sponzor: using two megabytes of cache seems fine on a first guess, though. | 21:46 |
| hitsujiTMO | also swap only starts getting used when you hit 60% of ram usage(thats the default vm.swappiness) ... sinces there's only 2mb of swap used, that does suggest you're only barely going over that 60% at most | 21:48 |
| sponzor | yeah but 8gb memory usage in esxi doesnt loke nice. can i release un used ram in ubuntu? | 21:49 |
| RoyK | sponzor: it's 2MB out of 8GB | 21:49 |
| RoyK | sponzor: linux swaps out things not in use | 21:50 |
| RoyK | sponzor: it doesn't matter! | 21:50 |
| RoyK | sponzor: you can turn off swapping if you like, sysctl vm.swappiness = 1, but I wouldn't recommend it | 21:50 |
| sarnold | sponzor: then I suggest your esxi monitoring tools are busted | 21:51 |
| hitsujiTMO | sponzor: "doesn't look nice" is a rather naive excuse for trying to free up the filesystem buffers. You're wanting to break optimisations just to skew usage figures | 21:51 |
| RoyK | sarnold: esxi monitoring doesn't take into account what linux is using its memory for | 21:51 |
| sarnold | RoyK: figures | 21:51 |
| RoyK | sponzor: what sort of server is this? | 21:52 |
| sponzor | mail server zimbra | 21:52 |
| RoyK | hungry beast, zimbra | 21:52 |
| RoyK | but 8 gigs should do for most | 21:52 |
| RoyK | how many users? | 21:52 |
| hitsujiTMO | sponzor: all modern operating systems do this, windows, osx, unix, linux ... they all take advbantage of unused ram | 21:52 |
| sponzor | 40 users | 21:52 |
| RoyK | sponzor: check out the munin plugins for monitoring zimbra | 21:55 |
| RoyK | they're quite good | 21:55 |
| sponzor | will try that.. i see it can be integrated with nagios witch we alrady run | 21:58 |
| RoyK | munin plugins with nagios? | 21:59 |
| RoyK | I've ditched nagios - using icinga - but the plugin format is the same | 22:00 |
| sarnold | RoyK: any thoughts on shinken? | 22:02 |
| RoyK | sarnold: haven't heard of it before now | 22:03 |
| sarnold | ah :) | 22:03 |
| sponzor | did tryed icinga... almsot the same as nagios. but we stay with nagios for now.. have 9 servers in distributed environment.. so its a pain to switch.. if we had money for xi work would be so easyer :D | 22:07 |
| RoyK | 9 nagios boxes? | 22:08 |
| RoyK | how many units are you montoring? | 22:08 |
| sponzor | 50-200 per box | 22:10 |
| RoyK | ok | 22:11 |
| RoyK | may I ask where you work? around 1k boxes seems rather a lot | 22:11 |
| sponzor | this could be done with only one nagios server.. but locked networks. for security reasons we had to deploy nagiso servers to remote sites | 22:11 |
| RoyK | ic | 22:12 |
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| jrwren | why would you not want to use every byte of ram you have ? | 23:12 |
| rostam | Hi I am using ubuntu 12.04, I have installed dhcp server on my system. By default when system reboots, the dhcp server is enabled, I like to change the default behavior for boot time. How could i do that? thx | 23:24 |
| sarnold | rostam: echo manual > /etc/init/nameofservice.override -- see the cookbook for details http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files | 23:27 |
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| rostam | sarnold, thanks | 23:29 |
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