=== freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === TDog_ is now known as TDog === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying [04:16] hi all, I am trying to compile some Embedded SQL/C programs on ubuntu server 12.04 and I keep getting the following error: [04:16] * genii twitches on !pastebin [04:17] libq.1.so: undefined reference to 'IIGchkobj' [04:17] ans some others - any ideas ? === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === e^0_ is now known as e^0 === TDog_ is now known as TDog === thesheff17_ is now known as thesheff17 [05:12] hallyn: hey - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1228977 [05:12] Launchpad bug 1228977 in nova "n-cpu seems to crash when running with libvirt 1.1.1 from ubuntu cloud archive" [High,Confirmed] [05:12] hallyn: its targeted to saucy, but doesn't appear to have had the changeset pulled in [05:13] hallyn: there seems to be some procedural issue blocking it [05:35] lifeless: yeah it needed the sru justification. i was waiting on a test case. thanks for providing it :) [05:35] we'll see about running a test with it for you [05:35] hallyn: do you need to update teh build in proposed to include the security updates? [05:35] great, thanks. [05:36] hm, maybe. i didn't see the security updates go by [05:37] i only see an 1.1.1-0ubuntu8.5, so should be ok [05:38] gotta run - ttyl [06:08] hallyn: ciao [06:21] hey guys im getting a "The system network service is not compatible with this version" error, can anyone lend a hand for a moment? === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying [06:32] anyone? [06:33] mastershake: is that an exact quote or a guess? [06:34] sarnold: just a question... i keep getting a "The system network service is not compatible with this version" error [06:34] and i dont know how to correct it [06:37] hrm, I can't find that string in the debian code search === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away [06:43] you dont have to be rude about it [06:43] mastershake: sorry, it's not rude, just stating that my primary tool, source code, isn't much help here :/ === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away [07:38] hi, why is this? http://apaste.info/6Fb5 [07:40] changed resolv [08:23] is there a way to stop jbd2 from running on certain disks? [08:35] Hello. I've set up postfix, dovecot, and roundcube, seemingly unsuccessfully. When I send an email using roundcube, the recipient never receives it. Same result with result with telnet. I'm thinking there is a problem with the postfix configuration but I really haven't changed much. [08:37] Bitwise: read mail.log [08:38] mardraum, Touche. I tried to send an email to my gmail account: (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=gmail.com type=MX: Host not found, try again) [08:44] sounds like dns is broken [08:52] I did postqueue -f and now it says network is unreachable and connection timed out. [08:54] is your dns working [08:55] Well I'm connected and browsing the net fine right now. [08:55] from the mail server? [08:56] I'm running the mail server on my primary machine. [08:56] I don't know what that means [08:58] Yes, I'm browsing the web from my mail server. [08:59] Are the first two lines correct? http://pastebin.com/S15yrCGn [09:50] is there a way to stop jbd2 from running on certain disks? === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying [11:25] guys i have squid3 installled in debian but there is aproblem when i try to test from the serever"The system returned: (111) Connection refused" [11:27] so #debian would be the right channel to talk about that in [11:27] you can join that channel with "/join #debian" [12:02] is it possible to stop jbd2 from running on certain disks? [12:05] zetheroo: it's a kenrel process, as I understand it, it needs to access each disk [12:05] zetheroo: you can tune it for each disk/file system though [12:05] ikonia: it's very unwanted for disks on which we have live VM images ;) [12:06] it may well be possible, but I think you'll have to "tune it" not to run, as opposed to disable it [12:06] if you get what I mean [12:06] ok ... kinda ... [12:07] how does one go about "tuning" it? [12:07] hdparm [12:08] hmmm ... I have only ever used hdparm for modifying the spin-down settings [12:09] to be honest, the same here [12:09] well, and a few other very minor settings [12:13] isn't jbd2 the journaling process? [12:15] I am trying to find how hdparm can be used to "tune" jbd2 ... all I see is how to use it to change the spin-down settings ... [13:36] hi [13:36] I am setting up a vpn, on Ubuntu [13:37] when I set up the localip, should I keep my current ip? [13:37] or can it be some other value? [14:29] Hello ubuntu-server people. We're looking at removing checkbox (checkbox-cli package) from the ubuntu server image for several reasons. I'd like to ask if anybody has objections about this (or really any other comment about it) [14:35] its already not in cloudimg, so I'm all for it :) [14:35] jrwren: hehe :) [14:42] roadmr: why? [14:53] zul: the candidate replacement has some packaging issues so we're looking at options to avoid delivering a bad experience [14:53] roadmr: ok cool [14:54] zul: removing it is the "easy way out" but we may have a solution to keep it if people would still prefer to have it [14:54] roadmr: im ambivalent to it :) [14:55] zul: cool, feedback appreciated :) [14:55] roadmr: maybe email the ubuntu-server mailing list? I don't think anybody will object, but we should make some reasonable effort to check with any stakeholders. Are there any other suitable lists? === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away [14:56] rbasak: maybe maas would be interested. The mailing list idea is good, but if you don't see an e-mail from me, it means we found a way to keep it alive :) [14:57] OK, sounds good :) === cyphermox_ is now known as cyphermox === mjohnson15_2 is now known as mjohnson15 === niemeyer__ is now known as niemeyer [16:56] rbasak: what would be the best way to snapshot a uvt-kvm vm? [16:58] hallyn: what's uvt? [16:58] hallyn: however libvirt suggests doing it, so with virsh directly. I tried the other day though, and couldn't get it working. Pretty sure it's not libvirt-specific. [16:59] hallyn: if it's awkward we can have uvtool wrap it, but I need to know how to do it with libvirt first :) [16:59] RoyK: uvtool (see package in trusty) it lets you quickly create/use ubuntu-cloud-iamge-based libvirt vms [16:59] * rbasak has been writing documentation this week [16:59] k [16:59] RoyK: http://s3hh.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/quickly-run-ubuntu-cloud-images-locally-using-uvtool/ [17:00] hi all. I have eth0 on int 19, and all interrupts are processed by core0, which is getting rather hot with >10k interrupts/s. I've set smp_affinity to 0f, having 4 cores, but it's still stuck at core 0. any idea why? [17:00] Manpages specifically. Server guide later. [17:00] rbaska: sounds good, thanks [17:00] gah. rbasak: ^ [17:00] that is awesome, thanks for that. [17:00] i'd been doing the virsh create manually [17:01] RoyK: might ask on #ubuntu-kernel... i would expect smp_affinity to DTRT... might be a bug [17:01] DTRT? [17:02] would be sweet if that uvt-kvm had a way to pass user-data to cloud-init [17:02] jrwren: --user-data :) [17:02] (sorry the manpage isn't written yet!) [17:02] rbasak: a file? [17:02] jrwren: yes, or there are options to add common things for you automatically [17:02] excellent, thanks. [17:03] eg. --ssh-public-key-file, --packages, --password, --run-script-once, etc. [17:04] this is great. how easy is it to bzr branch lp:uvtool and run out of trunk? [17:04] jrwren: ppa:uvtool-dev/trunk :) [17:04] i mean I might want to patch. [17:04] I run PYTHONPATH=. python bin/uvt-kvm. That works from the source tree. [18:36] after clean install, ubuntu server x32 hangs on boot at "fsck from util-linux" [18:37] strangely, going into recovery mode and selecting "resume normal boot" bypasses the issue [18:37] any idea how to fix it permanently [18:37] ? [18:38] http://i.imgur.com/EGN3uiu.png [19:20] fresh install of ubuntu server 32bit. first boot this happens: http://i.imgur.com/nJTv3ru.png and then http://i.imgur.com/EGN3uiu.png [19:20] any idea why? [19:21] nothing else? [19:21] first boot looks normal [19:21] or, rather, nothin in the first boot screenshot looks surprising to me [19:25] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes no 12.04.3 or 12.04.4 notes [19:25] I was worried that the ureadahead main process (246) terminated ... was a problem [19:25] foolhardy: naah, ureadahead is always complaining about something. I just uninstall it. [19:26] it hangs here: http://i.imgur.com/EGN3uiu.png [19:26] never moves on [19:26] now that -is- an issue :/ [19:27] foolhardy: can you boot it in single? [19:27] single? [19:27] going into recover mode and then selecting "resume normal startup" bypasses the issue [19:27] recovery mode == single user mode [19:28] gotcha [19:28] dpkg and fsck do not fix [19:28] fsck -f? [19:28] haven't tried that, doing now [19:28] dpkg has nothing to do with this [19:28] don't fsck a mounted filesystem [19:29] unless it's mounted read only [19:29] http://i.imgur.com/Tbzlcjt.png [19:29] looks good [19:29] foolhardy: any reason for using 32bit? [19:30] it is virtualized so in trying to use as little resources as possible this vm has 1gb ram [19:30] I read that 64bit with less than 4gb ram runs very slowly [19:31] foolhardy: Thats a lie. [19:31] 'very slowly' ? I've never had that problem. [19:31] no? [19:31] foolhardy: No. [19:31] I have another vm with 2gb running 64bit but it is live now so I cannot change/replace it. I've never noticed an issue with it but I'm not guru. [19:31] ok, then. I'll just use 64bit [19:32] thanks a lot for the info [19:32] foolhardy: 64 bit in 'small' machines does waste some memory for the double-sized pointers, but the extra registers on the CPU and indirect addressing modes of the CPU are fantastic for processing speed [19:32] foolhardy: you can use 512MB for a 64bit VM without issues [19:32] just depends what you're running on it [19:32] tomcat server is it [19:32] I've had VMs with as low as 128MB on 64bit [19:32] /java [19:32] well, great. THanks a lot for the great info. [19:33] I love you. [19:33] (though in all honesty, 32bit _should_ work better than this.) [19:33] this is 12.04 lts. I had the same issue with 12.04.3 about six months ago and thats why I went 64bit on the other "live" machine. Only later to read that this was bad with less than 4gb. [19:34] sarnold: obviously, yes [19:34] But now I know better. [19:34] 64bit 4eva [19:35] foolhardy: saving resources by running in 32bit might not be a good idea. the 32bit instruction set has fewer registers, so things can't be optimized that well [19:38] at some point in the future ubuntu will have support for a mixed mode of 32bit addressing but with the full 64bit instruction set, which will provide -some- memory savings for small vm instances, but I can't imagine that it'd free up more than 3-5% of memory [19:42] Well, basically there is no need to ride the dead horse named "32bit" when having 64bit hardware. [19:44] bekks: indeed [19:45] standardising on a common platform just makes things easier [19:45] not that everything should run AMD64, but still [19:47] 32bit is dead for more than a decade in almost all home computers - and it's artifically revived by 32bit netbooks. [19:50] bekks: I don't think there are much 32bit netbooks anymore [19:50] even atom has been 64bit for years [19:51] RoyK: Yeah do have 64bit atoms nowadays, but there are still zillions of 32bit netbooks in use out there. [19:52] sure - I have one ;) [19:52] Me too :P [19:52] but the netbooks more or less died out when the pads came around [20:41] hello masters! [20:42] * RoyK waves [20:43] i have 12.04 with kernel 3.8.0-35-generic x64. It's fully supported to install the "saucy" kernel? (linux-image-generic-lts-saucy|linux-image-3.11.0-17-generic). thanks very much! [20:44] paco11: why do you need 3.11? [20:45] to avoid the performance problem with kernels 3.0 to 3.9 [20:52] RoyK: what do you think? [20:57] paco11: what are those performance issues? [20:59] write performance [21:07] clear [21:07] paco11: Can you be more precise please? I havent noticed "the performance issue" yet, using Linux on a variety of boxes. [21:10] i have good write performance in my ldap servers with 2.6.32 than 3.8.0 [21:13] I dont have any issue with 3.2.0, 3.5, 3.8 as well. [21:22] http://lwn.net/Articles/486311/ | http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1309.1/01585.html | http://www.openldap.org/lists/openldap-technical/201309/msg00187.html === aslaen is now known as aslaen_ [21:33] anyone here run ubuntu server in proxmox? [21:38] heh, I saw the question before the nick, I was just about to say "hey foolhardy does..." :) [21:38] My issue from earlier apparently wasn't connected directly with the 32bit edition, nor a single proxmox node. :/ [21:38] :/ [21:39] I can duplicate the issue on two different machines [21:41] hi. my server is having 100% rame usage 24/7 http://pastebin.com/gNktmvzN [21:41] host is on esxi server [21:42] the rest of the server have normal usage.. but this one having 100 all the time [21:42] sponzor: what do the swap in and swap out columns of 'vmstat 1' look like? [21:43] sponzor: its only using 50% ram there [21:44] sponzor: read the -/+ buffers/cache line. thats how much ram is actually being used. the rest is just filesystem buffering which gets dumped the moment an app actually needs the ram [21:46] sponzor: in general "unused ram is wasted ram" -- but if you're seeing swap traffic, that could be indicative of something worse [21:46] sponzor: using two megabytes of cache seems fine on a first guess, though. [21:48] also swap only starts getting used when you hit 60% of ram usage(thats the default vm.swappiness) ... sinces there's only 2mb of swap used, that does suggest you're only barely going over that 60% at most [21:49] yeah but 8gb memory usage in esxi doesnt loke nice. can i release un used ram in ubuntu? [21:49] sponzor: it's 2MB out of 8GB [21:50] sponzor: linux swaps out things not in use [21:50] sponzor: it doesn't matter! [21:50] sponzor: you can turn off swapping if you like, sysctl vm.swappiness = 1, but I wouldn't recommend it [21:51] sponzor: then I suggest your esxi monitoring tools are busted [21:51] sponzor: "doesn't look nice" is a rather naive excuse for trying to free up the filesystem buffers. You're wanting to break optimisations just to skew usage figures [21:51] sarnold: esxi monitoring doesn't take into account what linux is using its memory for [21:51] RoyK: figures [21:52] sponzor: what sort of server is this? [21:52] mail server zimbra [21:52] hungry beast, zimbra [21:52] but 8 gigs should do for most [21:52] how many users? [21:52] sponzor: all modern operating systems do this, windows, osx, unix, linux ... they all take advbantage of unused ram [21:52] 40 users [21:55] sponzor: check out the munin plugins for monitoring zimbra [21:55] they're quite good [21:58] will try that.. i see it can be integrated with nagios witch we alrady run [21:59] munin plugins with nagios? [22:00] I've ditched nagios - using icinga - but the plugin format is the same [22:02] RoyK: any thoughts on shinken? [22:03] sarnold: haven't heard of it before now [22:03] ah :) [22:07] did tryed icinga... almsot the same as nagios. but we stay with nagios for now.. have 9 servers in distributed environment.. so its a pain to switch.. if we had money for xi work would be so easyer :D [22:08] 9 nagios boxes? [22:08] how many units are you montoring? [22:10] 50-200 per box [22:11] ok [22:11] may I ask where you work? around 1k boxes seems rather a lot [22:11] this could be done with only one nagios server.. but locked networks. for security reasons we had to deploy nagiso servers to remote sites [22:12] ic === aslaen_ is now known as aslaen [23:12] why would you not want to use every byte of ram you have ? [23:24] Hi I am using ubuntu 12.04, I have installed dhcp server on my system. By default when system reboots, the dhcp server is enabled, I like to change the default behavior for boot time. How could i do that? thx [23:27] rostam: echo manual > /etc/init/nameofservice.override -- see the cookbook for details http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying [23:29] sarnold, thanks