[00:00] <Vivekananda> when I install software such as java from here http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html  do I have to make sure if the ppa has 64 bit app or 32 bit ?
[00:01] <Jordan_U> tongcx: Snappshotting a VM drive generally takes very little time and disk space, but provides no added redundancy. If your goal is to prevent loss of important data / state then you should keep backups (on other media). Those backups can be incremental backups, which gives you space saving in the same way that snappshotting does.
[00:02] <Bitwise> Hello. I just ran sudo tasksel install mail-server and installed SquirrelMail. Going to the configtest.php from the browser results in:     ERROR: Error connecting to IMAP server "localhost:143".Server error: (111) Connection refused
[00:04] <Icehawk78> Is there something I need to do to get my machine to recognize a new monitor? I replaced my screen with a larger one that supports 1920x1080, and can see the BIOS/grub menus, but as soon as Ubuntu starts to load, the screen goes black, and shows nothing, though I can still SSH in
[00:04] <joehack> hola
[00:05] <kdworak> Hey guys NOOB QUESTION what is the $PATH enviornemntal variable and what is it used for, why would i want to add directories to it???
[00:05] <basketball> glitsj16,  are you online
[00:05] <schoppenhauer> kdworak: it is the directories which are searched for a command if you type it in your shell
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> Icehawk78: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:06] <Guest4044> are I going to miss some unity features if I rollback to the LTS version?
[00:06] <kdworak> schoppenhauer: so if i added external commands in a directory not currently in the $PATH variable id have to add that directory to use the command?
[00:07] <schoppenhauer> kdworak: yes
[00:07] <kdworak> makes sense, THANK YOU
[00:07] <Icehawk78> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6957339/
[00:07] <Jordan_U> kdworak: Please avoid extranious caps.
[00:07] <kdworak> got it
[00:09] <dgarstang3> *sigh* I just don't get apt-cacher-ng. :(
[00:10] <hitsujiTMO> Icehawk78: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:10] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: how are you configuring it on the client?
[00:11] <Icehawk78> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6957353/
[00:11] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: Well, I'm not exactly sure how it's supposed to be configured. I'm starting with a chef recipe. He deposits a file in /etc/apt.conf.d that sets a proxy. That works fine, except it then doesn't proxy the stuff in sources.list. Only stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[00:11] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: Ideally the client wouldn't have any repo's configured, and would point to the proxy for everything, right?
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> Icehawk78: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.notneeded            then restart lightdm or reboot
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: sources.list should stay the same. all you'd need to do is add Acquire::http { Proxy "http://ip.of.apt.acacher:port"; };
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: is that roughly what chef added?
[00:14] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: Well, I did an apt-get update, and it was grabbing stuff from ubuntu, not from the proxy...
[00:14] <darkblood> hello
[00:14] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: yes, I think that's what it added.
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: yes, it still grapbs stuff from ubuntu repo ... via the proxy
[00:14] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: eventhough it's logging the address of ubuntu?
[00:15] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: I'll have to tcpdump that...
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: afaik yes. what you can do is edit the proxy address to an invalid one and try and see if it fails
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> !away > basketball
[00:18] <Vivekananda> I am hoping to stick along longer and pester someone willing with questions :)
[00:18] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: good idea. I'll try that
[00:21] <Icehawk78> hitsujiTMO: renaming xorg.conf and rebooting doesn't seem to have worked - as far as I can tell, it *seems* to be getting stuck somewhere in the boot process, but I'm not sure, since the sshd isn't starting (and I still can't see anything)
[00:23] <MoPac> Hello. I have a question about full-screen windows on my multi-viewport desktop. Say I'm full-screen streaming a Youtube video and I edge flip over to an adjacent screen. This collapses the full-screen video, leaving the original framed video in the webpage. Is there any way I can turn this behavior off so that full-screen windows only exit when I go to them and hit, e.g., ESC ?
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> Icehawk78: have you removed the ati driver or are you just not using it?
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> !text | Icehawk78 use this to see if you can get the system back up
[00:24] <Icehawk78> hitsujiTMO: I removed fglrx last night due to unrelated issues, and was just using the open source drivers now
[00:25] <odroid> hello
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> Icehawk78: ok. you don't need /etc/X11/xorg.conf then at least. once you get into the text-only system: pastebinit /var/log/dmesg.0
[00:26] <Icehawk78>  hitsujiTMO I was able to ssh in acter pressing escape blindly on the keyboard, so I'm able to get logs again. /var/log/Xorg.0.log =>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6957402/
[00:26] <Keanu73> hmm
[00:27] <Icehawk78> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6957408/
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> Icehawk78: it does suggest that it's working. Could be an issue with the monitor itself
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> Icehawk78: can you also: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[00:32] <Icehawk78> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6957431/
[00:34] <Icehawk78> hitsujiTMO: Is it's an issue with the monitor, wouldn't the screen not show the BIOS/grub as well?
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> Icehawk78: not necessarily. grub is sending a different signal than xorg. (different resolution etc) ... xorg is using 1920x1080 based upon the reported supported modeline from your monitor, but could be a case that the monitor is reporting it incorrectly
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> Icehawk78: in fact, the monitor is reporting 5 diffrent modelines for 1080p    ... one of them could be bad, and xorg could be trying to use the bad one
[00:37] <Icehawk78> hitsujiTMO: Ah. Is there any way to try to force that to a lower resolution to get the screen to boot, perhaps?
[00:38] <Icehawk78> Oh, wait. Booting into the recovery version of this kernel shows stuff, so perhaps that's what I need.
[00:39] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: Seems your correct.
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> Icehawk78: maybe write an xorg.conf and force a preffered modeline https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[00:44] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: sweet. at least you know its working then
[00:45] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: sort of... next issue... do I need to explicitly add repo's to the client ? or does the proxy just forward everything through the ... proxy?
[00:45] <Galih> Hi, I have 2 screens and In Nvidia Drivers I put my Left screen like main screen but every time I restart my right screen is the main. How to save the configuration ? Thanks and sorry for my English
[00:47] <kdworak> Noob Question guys, environment variables are used by all programs even tho these programs have their own variables correct?
[00:47] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: It seems like if I try and apt-get install packages on the client (where the repo is on the server), the client can't find them (but  server does)
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: there should be no need for any extra configs
[00:48] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: yah. that's not working on the client
[00:48] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: Stuff from sources.list on the client works tho
[00:49] <Jordan_U> kdworak: I don't understand the question. Could you please try to rephrase it?
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: rerun: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install packagename
[00:49] <Vivekananda> wondering if a ppa automatically would have 64 and 32 bit versions of app and also if I just apt-get then what am I Installing. the ppa isfrom here --  http://askubuntu.com/questions/109404/how-do-i-install-latest-php-in-supported-ubuntu-versions-like-5-4-x-in-ubuntu-1
[00:50] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: yah I did. "E: Unable to locate package bci-nagios-plugins". That's a custom package in our repo (configured on the proxy server, not on the client)
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: do you mean apt-cacher-ng isn't working with an internal repo?
[00:50] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: right, but it is with sources.list repos
[00:50] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: and I confirmed it's using the proxy address for sources.list repo's by setting the proxy's address to a bogus one.
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: """That's a custom package in our repo (configured on the proxy server, not on the client)"""   configured on what proxy???
[00:51] <Beldar> Vivekananda, PPA's are maintained outside the repos, you can look on their web pages and see the packages there.
[00:51] <kdworak> jordan_U: not even sure how ummmm, are environment variables just like variables in a script, but env variables are native to the shell and can be called by all programs...
[00:51] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: Yes.. the .list file that points to that package is configured on the server. The client has no .list files.
[00:52] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: server = proxy server... the guy in Acquire::http::Proxy
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: so configured on apt-cacher-ng?
[00:52] <Vivekananda> Beldar: if I did not do that but just added and instaled would that give meproblems
[00:53] <Vivekananda> asuuming I have a 64 bit os not 32 ?
[00:53] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: yes, the .list file is on the apt-cacher-ng box...
[00:53] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: and I can apt-get install that package on the apt-cacher-ng box
[00:53] <Beldar> Vivekananda, not an answerable question to many variables, and ppa's are not supported here.
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: ahh ok. apt-cacher-ng won't pass that around to the other clients at all
[00:54] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: ok... cuz I thought you said a few minutes ago that it would. I need to put the list files on both the apt-cacher-ng box AND the clients?
[00:54] <Vivekananda> ummm I installed apache and php from the link above. Can you tell me how to find out which version I installed ? 32 bit or 64 bit version or either ?
[00:57] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: Something isn't right. I copied the list file from the apt-cache-ng box to the client (as is). Put a bogus address in /etc/apt.conf.d/01proxy and did an apt-get... and it's working, directly to the repo, which means it's not looking at the proxy address (but it was for sources.list)
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: theres not extra work needed to get apt-cacher working. but its also not going to magically pass around extra sources. think of it as a simple http proxy(which is exactly what it is). if you request a file, it stores it. then any further requests for that files it grabs it from the store. thats all it does.    then you're using 2 different sources.list, when you use 2 different sources on different machines, they are sending dif
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> ferent sets of urls so will get different results as if they are not using the proxy
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: after copying over the new sources list + bogus proxy did you rerun sudo apt-get update ?
[00:58] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: just did. got errors
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: it was still working as it was still running of the old apt-cache
[00:59] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: ic
[00:59] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: so.. client has to have all the list files as it normally would, as if the proxy wasn't even configured...?
[01:00] <motaka2> Is it possible to open vim in a new terminal ?
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: yup
[01:00] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: seems dodgy. Ok.
[01:00] <Beldar> !Who | Vivekananda
[01:00] <Vivekananda> Beldar: of course
[01:02]  * ceed^ is away: I'm away (gone at 18th Feb, 19:02:17)
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: just remember, the sources.lost determines what urls the clients request,   apt-cacher-ng catches urls,    if you are using 2 different sources.list then you'll have 2 different sets of urls
[01:02] <Beldar> !away > ceed^`away
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> ceed^`away: also disable that talking script
[01:04] <n^izzo> I have made my .bashrc give me two types of prompts longp: "xanth@X-VboxTux:~➤➤➤ " and shortp: "➤ " I have done this by writing a 0 or a 1 to a file and then there is a if else tree in the PS1 line to determine what length to use
[01:04] <Vivekananda> Beldar: so the question remains ummm I installed apache and php from the link above. Can you tell me how to find out which version I installed ? 32 bit or 64 bit version or either ?
[01:04] <n^izzo> so my question is... Is there a better way to store a state than writing a 0 or a 1 to a file?
[01:04] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: *sigh* This isn't working. I'm installing a custom package and it's grabbing dependancies from archive.ubuntu.com. I ran tcpdump to the server and it got no traffic
[01:05] <Vivekananda> Beldar: I am trying to find out the version of apache2 and php that I installed
[01:05] <n^izzo> code if ayone wants to read it: https://github.com/grifflug/griffDocs/blob/master/terminal_config/xanth-.md
[01:05] <Beldar> Vivekananda, I have no idea on that stuff.
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: to test from the client add a hosts file entry for: 127.0.0.1 archive.ubuntu.com           in /etc/hosts                  (change archive.ubuntu.com to us.archive.ubuntu.com, or whatever mirror you are using) then retry you'll get an error if it can get from the host
[01:06] <Beldar> Vivekananda, My guess is a grep command man grep for info
[01:07] <Beldar> I never use these so just a guess Vivekananda
[01:07] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: I think tcpdump -i eth0 host 172.16.1.3 (the servers IP address) on the client is prety comprehensive...
[01:07] <Vivekananda> Beldar: hmm okay . But I was merely thinkig that if I just installed something but did not check and if it is working how would I know if it is an okay versoin or not ?
[01:08] <Vivekananda> Beldar: do you have a 64 bit machine and if so how to do you install stuff in it eg java. I am now going to attempt to instal java in it
[01:08] <Beldar> Vivekananda, You can research it on the web, you can assume that since it works it is working...etc
[01:08] <Nothing_Much> Beldar: You around?
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: normally yes. but sometimes tcpdump doesn't play nice 100% of the time.    what i suggest will 100% work guaranteed
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> s/suggest/suggested
[01:09] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: ooookiday
[01:09] <Beldar> Vivekananda, My laptop is 64 bit, I do not worry generally about 32 or 64 bit unless it's a 3rd party, then I check, the repos default prety much.
[01:09] <Nothing_Much> If it's possible to use ubuntu-manual.org as a means to promote Ubuntu through a charity then please let me know.l
[01:09] <Vivekananda> hmm okay
[01:10] <Vivekananda> Beldar: so suppose you ahd to install java and went to the uubntu help page and found this -- http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html  . would you just execute the instructions and if that repo did not have 64 bit java would it throw an error ?
[01:10] <hitsujiTMO> Nothing_Much: thats a question that you'd have to ask canonical directly
[01:10] <Nothing_Much> hitsujiTMO: Where would I contact Canonical?
[01:11] <Evilmax> there is a way to avoid thet locate find an hidden file
[01:11] <Evilmax> ?
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> Nothing_Much: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/contact-us
[01:15] <Nothing_Much> hitsujiTMO: Uh.. LoCo sounds like it
[01:15] <Nothing_Much> But there isn't one near me
[01:16] <Beldar> Vivekananda, Is your computer a 32 bit or 64 bit?
[01:16] <Beldar> and your release
[01:19] <Atomix26> Is there a proper place to kvetch about a tiny UI problem?
[01:28] <skinux> Anyone know of a good Twitter applet that will show tweets in a balloon in upper or lower right?
[01:30] <jenca> Hi, so my machine has "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in my resolv.conf but I can't resolve anything. I can ping anything fine, but I can't get DNS to save my life. Anyone got any advice?
[01:31] <kdworak> NoobQuestion!  typing someprog << EOF causes someprog to accept input until it sees a line that contains only the string EOF (without even a space following it). ---until?  so all text will be input for someprog untill the user types EOF?
[01:32] <kdworak> anyone?
[01:34] <kdworak> NoobQuestion!  typing someprog << EOF causes someprog to accept input until it sees a line that contains only the string EOF (without even a space following it). ---until?  so all text will be input for someprog untill the user types EOF?
[01:38] <kdworak> my question was my anwser
[01:42] <newhoa> Are there any gui apps specifically for transferring music (with configurable dir structure would be nice) via MSC/UMS?
[01:43] <andygraybeal> i did a fresh install of 13.10 after backing up all my 12.04 /home folder.  what is the best way to move my old data onto the new 13.10 /home?
[01:43] <andygraybeal> i assume copying it (rsync) might not be the best way... ?
[01:44] <sakter12> Hi i have a question about powerTOP whenever i set things to be 'Good' from 'Bad' in the tunables they don't stay that way
[01:45] <kdworak> man no ones has been anwsering questions for a while gents
[01:45] <sakter12> all watching pokemon twitch?
[01:46] <kdworak> i have a simple question when a guide says "pass the -a option to tee"  does that mean "tee -a file.txt"?
[01:47] <hewhomust> yup
[01:47] <hewhomust> man tee specifies the format
[01:47] <hewhomust> tee option file
[01:48] <kdworak> cool thx!
[01:48] <kdworak> studying for the LPIC
[01:48] <hewhomust> cool
[01:48] <timekeeper> hi, i have a quick q:
[01:48] <timekeeper> default quantal repos have an oudated version of znc. quantal-backports has 1.0-2, but after adding and udpating, it still thinks .204 is the latest version
[01:49] <timekeeper> it does show in apt-get policy though
[01:49] <timekeeper> http://pastebin.ca/2643535
[01:52] <Iriez> Hey guys, im trying to install google authenticator on ubuntu, i've installed libpam-google-authetnicator but im unsure how to generate a auth key from a QR code I already have (for a specific account). All the guides are for how to enable it for ssh, but that is not my purpose :)
[01:54] <Iriez> I think the bigger issue is i have NO idea how this works and its really frustrating me :)
[01:55] <Iriez> Im trying to generate a google authenticator code without using my real google acct or smartphone
[01:55] <newhoa> gMusicbrowser is incredible. Although I still wish I could find a program specifically for transferring music.
[01:56] <ras3ngan> Tech guys, I need some assistance with Backtrack 5. I'm running backtrack 5, and want to install Ubuntu 13 and remove backtrack from my computer. I burned the image to a disc, and can't seem to run the installer. Any suggestions?
[01:57] <XHEART24> hi, i am having trouble to install the driver for the NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) on ubuntu 12.04 lts. please help.
[01:57] <XHEART24> when i run a video it goes slow, it did recognize it just right after installed but the next day the system is slow and also the videos
[01:58] <Galih> ras3ngan  Can you boot on the disc  like  in "live-cd" ?
[01:59] <XHEART24> is there a command to recognize my graphic card nvidia geforce 5200?
[02:00] <Galih> ras3ngan ?
[02:03] <jacksenechal> XHEART24 have you tried enabling the NVIDIA proprietary drivers from the Additional Drivers panel?
[02:03] <XHEART24> yes but nothing shows
[02:03] <Ben64> XHEART24: how did you install the driver
[02:04] <XHEART24> i have not, it actually worked the first time but now it does not
[02:04] <Ben64> how do you know it worked then?
[02:05] <jacksenechal> XHEART24 do you see the card listed when you do lspci on the terminal?
[02:07] <Galih> ras3ngan ?
[02:07] <XHEART24> product: NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
[02:07] <XHEART24>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[02:07] <jacksenechal> surprising that it doesn't show up under the Additional Drivers window
[02:08] <impossible> indeed
[02:09] <XHEART24> nothing shows on additional drivers
[02:10] <Ben64> XHEART24: pastebin the following: "lshw -C VIDEO; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia; lsb_release -a"
[02:12] <XHEART24> I CAN NOT COPY PASTE THE COMMAND
[02:12] <XHEART24> sorry caps
[02:12] <jacksenechal> I need some help making a debian package. I'm following this post http://lowerstrata.blogspot.com/2010/07/canon-p-150-and-linux.html to get drivers working for my scanner on 64bit Ubuntu. It worked well for me on Ubuntu 12.04, but on 13.10 it's barfing on the command "fakeroot make -f debian/rules binary". dpkg-shlibdeps can't find several libraries that exist, even if I point to them explicitly with LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Paste of ou
[02:12] <jacksenechal> tput here: http://pastebin.com/kJnP6jCk.
[02:13] <hitsujiTMO> XHEART24: geforce fx 5200 is not even supported but the legacy nvidia driver (304) so you're stuck with the open drivers.
[02:13] <XHEART24> not even on 13.04 or 13.10?
[02:14] <hitsujiTMO> XHEART24: last support was in nvidia-173
[02:15] <XHEART24> what command i can use to load that one?
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> XHEART24: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[02:15] <XHEART24> 12.04 lts 32 bit
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> what kernel?
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> XHEART24: uname -r
[02:16] <XHEART24> what is that command?
[02:17] <XHEART24> 3.2.0-59-generic-pae
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> XHEART24: you could try: sudo apt-get install nvidia-173-updates      but this does break the system for some people
[02:19] <hitsujiTMO> XHEART24: realistically tho, you'll not get any benefit over the open driver
[02:19] <hitsujiTMO> i'd stick with the open driver if i were you
[02:19] <XHEART24> in he beginning it worked great i was able to choose different settings but after a restart it stopped seeing the graphic card installed
[02:20] <XHEART24> now it says only "laptop"
[02:21] <tiglionabbit> can I get postgres 9.3 on ubuntu?
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> it could just be that the gpu is on its last legs
[02:21] <XHEART24> what is the command for update?
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO> tiglionabbit: with the official ppa you should: http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO> XHEART24: sudo apt-get update                 do you mean?
[02:23] <tiglionabbit> hitsujiTMO: what version do I put in here?  I'm using 13.10
[02:23] <tiglionabbit> or I guess I just use the ppa, ok
[02:23] <hitsujiTMO> tiglionabbit: looks like they only support LTS versions
[02:23] <XHEART24> is there a command to fix broken pipes?
[02:24] <XHEART24> i saw this error once a few minutes ago after a reboot
[02:25] <tiglionabbit> hitsujiTMO: when I added that, it gave me a warning linking here: https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/postgresql
[02:25] <hitsujiTMO> tiglionabbit:try this instead  http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> they list 13.10 support on that wiki page with the repo
[02:26] <frodopwns> hi, i would like to allow one ssh user access to the reboot command without giving them sudo, can someone point me in the right direction?
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> frodopwns: myuser ALL = (ALL) /sbin/reboot
[02:28] <frodopwns> does that go in visudo?
[02:29] <frodopwns> looks like it does, thanks man
[02:29] <hitsujiTMO> frodopwns: yes,    man sudoers     has some other examples
[02:30] <XHEART24> how can i uninstall dropbox?
[02:30] <XHEART24> ubuntu 12.04 lts
[02:30] <chris062689> What is the quickest way to copy large files (avg size 600 MB, 2TB of data total) from one folder to another?  Seperate paritions, want to verify while copying.
[02:31] <ash__> i just installed ubuntu
[02:31] <XHEART24> i am connect my usb and external hard drives and it is not mounting it , i can not access them
[02:32] <ash__> i can't run the app that i downloaded
[02:32] <ash__> it just opens in gedit
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> chris062689: if you also want to verify, then use rsync
[02:33] <XHEART24> is there a command to fix my system files?
[02:33] <ash__> http://warmplace.ru/soft/pixitracker/
[02:33] <XHEART24> on ubuntu 12.04 lts
[02:36] <ash__> how do i run that app?
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> ash__: you need to make the START_LINUX file executable.
[02:38] <ash__> it is
[02:38] <cookie> anyone know stuff about MPOS stratum
[02:38] <cookie> trying to get a pool working
[02:39] <jacksenechal> ash__: pixietracker looks cool. You can't run it by double clicking on the file from the file browser, you need to run it from the terminal.
[02:40] <ash__> all other distros of linux and ubuntu run it out of the box with a double click
[02:40] <ash__> this is the first time i have ever had this problem
[02:40] <ash__> new install 13.10
[02:40] <ash__> just opens in gedit
[02:41] <jacksenechal> "cd Downloads/pixietracker" (or wherever it is), then "./START_LINUX_X86" or "./START_LINUX_X86_64"
[02:41] <jacksenechal> yeah, must be a new security feature of 13.10
[02:42] <jacksenechal> you can make a launcher for it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[02:43] <ash__> i dont get it
[02:44] <jacksenechal> what exactly?
[02:44] <ash__> line 12: no such file or directory
[02:45] <ash__> never had this problem. this app was always rock solid
[02:45] <jacksenechal> works for me...
[02:46] <jacksenechal> can you see that file?
[02:46] <jacksenechal> the one it can't fine?
[02:46] <jacksenechal> *find
[02:46] <tiglionabbit> ugh, how do I run postgresql-9.3?  It says psql: could not connect to server
[02:46] <tiglionabbit> but the server is running
[02:47] <ash__> i see all the files fine
[02:48] <jacksenechal> ash__: what does "pwd" say?
[02:49] <skraito-0x71> hey ubuntu
[02:49] <skraito-0x71> wanna deal with me
[02:49] <skraito-0x71> astaraos.0x71.org
[02:49] <skraito-0x71> :)
[02:49] <ash__> i am in the right directory
[02:49] <skraito-0x71> is ferudora
[02:49] <skraito-0x71> :)
[02:49] <skraito-0x71> how are ya all btw
[02:50] <Bitwise> Hi, I'm trying to set up a mail server in Ubuntu and use RoundCube for the web interface. I ran `tasksel install mail-server` and installed RoundCube and sym linked it so I can access it from my apache2 server at localhost. When I log in I get 500 service unavailable and when I click mail it says "Your session is invalid or expired."
[02:50] <jacksenechal> ash__: and then "ls -l bin"?
[02:50] <skraito-0x71> try it guys Our 0x71 (xc) Our Hacker Team AstaraOS
[02:50] <ash__> why?
[02:50] <somsip> !spam | skraito-0x71
[02:50] <ash__> ls -i bin
[02:50] <skraito-0x71> ..................
[02:50] <skraito-0x71> suxer
[02:50] <somsip> skraito-0x71: you were told yesterday...
[02:50] <skraito-0x71> spam my ass
[02:50] <skraito-0x71> somsip
[02:51] <ash__> the scripts show up as they should
[02:51] <ash__> they simply wont run.
[02:52] <jacksenechal> try to execute them directly? "./bin/pixilang_linux_x86_64"
[02:53] <jacksenechal> ah... it tells me no such file or directory if I try to execute the wrong one for my architecture. are you on 64 bit ubuntu or 32 bit?
[02:53] <XHEART24> hi. my videos are running slow
[02:53] <dupingping> Hi
[02:54] <dupingping> If I click "System->Preferences->Remote Desktop", Which command is run?
[02:54] <skinux> If Ubuntu is using 0 SWAP, does that mean it has no SWAP partition or just that a setting is too low? I've been seeing notice that a 'disk' is not ready or not present at boot.
[02:55] <XHEART24> how can i upgrade from 12.04lts to 13.10?
[02:55] <somsip> !upgrade | XHEART24
[02:56] <skinux> xheart: Change version name in APT config and run apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:56] <io> XHEART24: you can go from 12.04 to 12.10 all the way up to 13.10, but I would suggest waiting for 14.04 to be released in April if you can, or do a fresh install of 13.10 to avoid having to download all those upgrades.
[02:56] <ash__> what do i have to do to get this app to run?
[02:56] <jacksenechal> ash__: what version of ubuntu are you on, 32 or 64 bit?
[02:56] <XHEART24> how do i upgrade to 13.10?
[02:56] <ash__> 64
[02:57] <somsip> XHEART24: you've been answered. What don't you understand?
[02:57] <jacksenechal> ash__: and are you trying to execute the 64 bit version of the file?
[02:57] <io> XHEART24: if you chose to go the incremental route then you will need to change the settings in the software center from LTS only to All versions.
[02:57] <ash__> either one
[02:57] <ash__> they just open in gedit or i get no command found
[02:57] <jacksenechal> I think XHEART24 is a bot :-P
[02:58] <dupingping> If I click "System->Preferences->Remote Desktop", Which command is run?
[02:58] <XHEART24> lol
[02:58] <XHEART24> just learning
[02:58] <jacksenechal> ash__: sorry... I got nothin then. I get the no such file or directory message if I execute the wrong one, but otherwise it works...
[02:58] <tiglionabbit> can I get postgresql-9.3 to work with the uuid-ossp and hstore extensions?
[02:59] <somsip> ash__: can you explain your problem again?
[02:59] <ajeffco> rww: Thanks for the tip on 32/64 bit last night.  After poking it for a day, it's a noticeable difference in general performance
[02:59] <somsip> tiglionabbit: what version of ubuntu?
[02:59] <tiglionabbit> latest
[02:59] <tiglionabbit> saucy
[02:59] <somsip> !info postgresql | tiglionabbit
[02:59] <somsip> tiglionabbit: so current is 9.3
[02:59] <tiglionabbit> what?
[03:00] <tiglionabbit> ubuntu saucy only packages postgres 9.1
[03:00] <tiglionabbit> I had to get 9.3 from the postgres repo
[03:00] <dupingping> If I click "System->Preferences->Remote Desktop", Which command is run?
[03:00] <tiglionabbit> but it doesn't have uuid-ossp o
[03:00] <dupingping> plz, help me!
[03:00] <dupingping> If I click "System->Preferences->Remote Desktop", Which command is run?
[03:01] <somsip> tiglionabbit: the bot reports 9.3 is current for saucy. We can only support official releases here
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> somsip: show me the packages in the repo then
[03:01] <somsip> !patience | dupingping (surely you've been told this often enough)
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=postgresql&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> all the packages have 9.1 in the name
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> ohhh
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> I see
[03:02] <somsip> tiglionabbit: ah - not seen that before. The version is 9.3+146really9.1+148. So it looks like it is 'really' 9.1, Weird
[03:03] <ash__> no apps will run under 13.10
[03:03] <tiglionabbit> somsip: "really" ?  wtf?
[03:03] <somsip> ash__: unlikely. Can you give more details
[03:04] <somsip> tiglionabbit: no idea. I've not seen that before.
[03:04] <ash__> http://warmplace.ru/soft/sunvox/
[03:04] <ash__> fail.
[03:04] <ash__> rock solid app fails
[03:04] <somsip> !find sunvox
[03:04] <ash__> you dont need a package
[03:05] <somsip> ash__: so it's unofficial, the current package is beta, and you should contact the authors of sunvox for help
[03:05] <ash__> its your distro
[03:05] <tiglionabbit> man I don't know what I'm doing
[03:05] <ash__> my phone runs it just fine.
[03:05] <ash__> 12.10 runs it out of the box
[03:05] <ash__> puppy linux runs it out of the box
[03:06] <somsip> ash__: that's not how things work. If you want general guidance, fine. If it's a problem with sunvox, this is not the place to ask
[03:06] <tiglionabbit> I did apt-get install postgres;  But now there's no user role.  Am I supposed to initdb my self or something?  But that command isn't there
[03:06] <ash__> you people changed this OS again.
[03:06] <somsip> !attitude | ash__
[03:07] <Guest46448> hi everybody
[03:07] <Guest46448> i'm a newbie with ubuntu
[03:07] <Guest46448> dos anybody know how to set white levels for the monitor?
[03:17] <Docfxit> I have an old version of Ubuntu.  I'd like to find out how to change to the root folder.?
[03:18] <Docfxit> cd doesn't work.
[03:19] <somsip> Docfxit: cd / (do you really mean 'root folder')?
[03:21] <Docfxit> somsip: thanks I didn't know it needed a space.
[03:22] <Docfxit> I would like to find all .tar files.    I tried ls *.tar but it doesn't work.
[03:22] <somsip> Docfxit: that will find all tar files in the currect directory. Do you want to find them recursively?
[03:22] <Docfxit> I'm in the / folder.
[03:23] <Docfxit> somsip: yes please.
[03:24] <somsip> Docfxit: find / -name *.tar (and maybe add '| less' on the end for paging)
[03:25] <Docfxit> somsip:  Thank you very much.
[03:25] <somsip> Docfxit: np
[03:30] <Docfxit> The hard drive ran out of room.  I think a crucial file is missing now.  I have made more room on the drive.  Is there a way to get the file back?
[03:39] <somsip> Docfxit: what were you doing that would have installed this crucial file?
[03:40] <Docfxit> I run Asterisk on this box.
[03:40] <somsip> Docfxit: no idea what that is. Why do you think a file is missing>?
[03:41] <Docfxit> Asterisk is a VOIP phone system.  The software won't start.
[03:41] <somsip> Docfxit: any log? Run it in a terminal and see if it throws any errors?
[03:42] <Docfxit> It does.  It says a file is missing.
[03:42] <somsip> Docfxit: ...which file?
[03:42] <Tmac> In order to do some sort of headless ubuntu install (either via modified netboot or kickstart), am I correct in assuming I need an ubuntu pc on hand?
[03:42] <usr13> Docfxit: You want to find all *.tar files?
[03:42] <Docfxit> asterisk.ctl
[03:43] <usr13> Docfxit: find / -name "*.tar" -type f
[03:43] <Docfxit> usr13:  I found them.  Thank you.
[03:43] <usr13> Docfxit: Oh, ok
[03:43] <somsip> !info asterisk
[03:44] <somsip> Docfxit: I don't know anything about asterisk. I get plenty of search results for 'asterisk.ctl' with possible solutions, but all i'd be doing would be posting the links here for you to check. You might as well do it yourself
[03:49] <Docfxit> I found an undelete program called extundelete.  I need to write it to a cd to boot into ubuntu.  When I download it on a windows PC it has an extention of bz2.  Is there a program that runs in windows to write that to a cd?
[03:50] <somsip> Docfxit: we don;t do windows here...
[03:51] <hewhomust> bz2 theres probably an iso in there just extract it
[03:51] <hewhomust> or if not just extract and make an iso
[03:52] <Docfxit> somsip:  Thanks
[03:53] <Evilmax> someone tell me how restrict an ubuntu user?
[03:53] <somsip> Evilmax: in what way?
[03:53] <Evilmax> i mean...
[03:53] <Docfxit> somsip:  I never know what someone may know.
[03:53] <Evilmax> i want not that an user can perform some commands
[03:54] <Evilmax> or, if it is more easy, restrict an user to only some few commands
[03:54] <Evilmax> specifics commands
[03:54] <Evilmax> it's possible?
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !enter|Evilmax,
[03:54] <somsip> !info chroot | Evilmax
[03:55] <jeffrey_f> Evilmax: What is your desired outcome.  Please elaborate
[03:55] <somsip> !jail | Evilmax
[03:55] <somsip> !chroot | Evilmax
[03:55] <cfhowlett> Evilmax, if you user is not an administrator, he cannot run system commands ...
[03:56] <Evilmax> he is not admin but can run some command as wget
[03:56] <Evilmax> i do not want he able to use wget
[03:56] <Evilmax> i do not want he able to use any command that connect outside
[03:57] <somsip> Evilmax: that may not be best actually. You'd need to setup all whitelist apps, whereas you really want to blacklist certain apps. So you'd be adding him to a group with restricted permissions instead
[03:57] <cfhowlett> Evilmax, interesting scenario.  I can't advise on this, but I bet the system administrators over in #ubuntu-server can speak to it
[03:57] <somsip> Evilmax: how does the user log in?
[03:57] <Evilmax> ah ok...thanks cfhowlett...i will ask there too:) thanks somsip
[03:58] <Evilmax> somsip...the user is www-data
[03:58] <Evilmax> i want restrict www-data
[03:58] <somsip> Evilmax: what is the end goal you want to achieve, given that www-data is a system-only user for the apache daemon?
[03:59] <Evilmax> because i see that www-data can use some commands as wget: i do not want this
[03:59] <Evilmax> infact...from my website...i can perform wget, using a script
[03:59] <somsip> Evilmax: then tighten up security on your site.
[03:59] <Evilmax> and how?
[04:00] <somsip> Evilmax: what version did you say you were running?
[04:00] <Evilmax> you mean apache?
[04:00] <somsip> Evilmax: ubuntu
[04:00] <Evilmax> ah
[04:00] <Docfxit> How can I see what is in the trash?
[04:00] <Evilmax> 12.10
[04:01] <somsip> Evilmax: ok - I thought you said it was old. No matter. But if you have a website that is so easy to hack that you can run wget on it, you need to do a lot of research yourself.
[04:01] <Evilmax> for example i changed in /etc/passwd... /bin/sh in /bin/false for www-data: but it seems useless
[04:02] <somsip> Evilmax: because it's a system user not a login user
[04:02] <Evilmax> but my site can run wget...through a bash script
[04:02] <Evilmax> not directly
[04:02] <Evilmax> but anyway shell script are owned by wwwdata
[04:03] <somsip> Evilmax: that's your security issue right there
[04:03] <Evilmax> if script were not owned by wwdata...it not works
[04:03] <Evilmax> sorry my english
[04:03] <somsip> Evilmax: The script does what?
[04:04] <Evilmax> some commanda: grep, curl, rm
[04:04] <SirLagz> Evilmax: are you still running shell scripts via php ?
[04:04] <Evilmax> inside a folder owned by wwwdata
[04:04] <Evilmax> yes Sickki
[04:04] <Evilmax> yes SirLagz
[04:04] <somsip> Evilmax: and like I told you, that is a security hole.
[04:05] <somsip> Evilmax: safe installs will not allow functions like shell_exec()
[04:05] <barrett> my desktop is doing lots of wierd things, and I think it has to do with for some reason I can't ping or open tcp connections to localhost (although I can ping/connect from another computer).  any thoughts?
[04:05] <SirLagz> barrett: that would do it. is the loopback interface up ?
[04:07] <Evilmax> could someone show me an example about how format a system running a wwwdata with sudoers privileges?
[04:07] <Evilmax> would you able to do that
[04:07] <somsip> Evilmax: don't give www-data sudo privileges
[04:07] <Evilmax> ok, i know: but an example?
[04:07] <somsip> Evilmax: no. I'm not spreading poor practices on here
[04:07] <Evilmax> ok
[04:08] <Evilmax> anyway i do not want know for attack but for defence
[04:08] <barrett> SirLagz, as far as i can tell it is http://pastebin.com/pYR2pGAC
[04:08] <somsip> Evilmax: I've seen solutions to that when someone else was asking for the same thing some time ago. *Everyone* told him not to. He insisted on doing it.
[04:08] <somsip> Evilmax: defence is not opening security holes deliberately, for a start
[04:09] <et9> hola
[04:11] <Bitwise> Hi. I'm having trouble finding links to updated tutorials on installing RoundCube. The ones I'm finding talk about localhost/webmail/installer but I don't have an 'installer' directory anywhere.
[04:13] <somsip> Bitwise: I'd guess that when you unzip/install the PHP, you would to that to either the /var/www or a virtual host directory. It looks like installer should be in there
[04:13] <Bitwise> somsip, Does it matter that I installed RoundCube from my package manager? (apt-get)
[04:14] <somsip> Bitwise: I didn't know it was in there. I remember when I installed phpmyadmin from packages it went somewhere most unexpected.
[04:14] <Bitwise> I can access the login interface but when I log in it says 500 internal error and anything I click brings me back to the login screen and says session expired/invalid
[04:14] <somsip> Bitwise: you done this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Roundcube
[04:15] <somsip> Bitwise: which suggest /usr/share/roundcube as the main install dir
[04:16] <Bitwise> I've found that directory, I already created the sym link.
[04:17] <somsip> Bitwise: it's possible that installation is complete as part of the config process. So maybe there is no need for a /installer directory ?
[04:17] <Bitwise> I'm going through dpkg-reconfigure roundcube-core right now
[04:17] <Bitwise> This seems to be what I was looking for.
[04:17] <somsip> Bitwise: and the roundcore-mysql is installed too?
[04:18] <Bitwise> Not sure, let me check.
[04:18] <Bitwise> Unable to locate package
[04:19] <somsip> !find roundcube
[04:19] <somsip> Bitwise: the bot suggests it is
[04:19] <somsip> Bitwise: what version of ubuntu?
[04:19] <Bitwise> 13.10
[04:21] <somsip> Bitwise: that's what the bot works with by default, so it should be available to you
[04:21] <somsip> !info roundcore-mysql
[04:21] <somsip> ah
[04:21] <Bitwise> Hmm. I'm still getting the same 500 error. :\
[04:23] <somsip> Bitwise: roundcube-mysql is a meta package, so maybe you should check you have the dependencies installed? http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/roundcube-mysql
[04:24] <somsip> Bitwise: check your apache error log for full details of the error? /var/log/apache2/error.log
[04:24] <trisquel> hi
[04:24] <Bitwise> This says it's installed.
[04:24] <Bitwise> Hello.
[04:24] <somsip> Bitwise: I thought it would be, but worth checking.
[04:25] <Bitwise> [19-Feb-2014 04:25:29 +0000]: PHP Error: Could not perform encryption; make sure Mcrypt is installed or lib/des.inc is available in /usr/share/roundcube/program/lib/Roundcube/rcube.php on line 748 (POST /mail/?_task=login&_action=login)
[04:25] <Bitwise> I'll argue Mcrypt is installed.
[04:26] <trisquel> i use ubuntu 12.04 and i have a canon multifunction printer but the drivers available on the site is for windows only, any possiblity of using those in ubuntu? http://www.canon-europe.com/Support/Consumer_Products/products/Fax__Multifunctionals/Laser/LaserBase_MF_series/i-SENSYS_MF3010.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:13-1074060&page=1&type=download
[04:26] <somsip> Bitwise: seems to give you something to check though
[04:26] <somsip> trisquel: no
[04:27] <trisquel> somsip: ok if i am able to print but not scan any way i could configure the scanner
[04:28] <trisquel> somsip: i downloaded drivers for linux which only enables printing but not scan.
[04:28] <somsip> trisquel: no idea. I avoid printers.
[04:28] <trisquel> somsip: ok :)
[04:29] <somsip> Bitwise: web searches suggest that is resolved by making sure php5-mcrypt is installed (or whatever the correct package is now.. I think it changes in 13.10 or 14.04)
[04:30] <Bitwise> php5-mcrypt is already the newest version. :\
[04:30] <somsip> Bitwise: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-mcrypt/+bug/1241286
[04:31] <somsip> Bitwise: so the ini for mcrypt is in the wrong path
[04:32] <guest98155> trisquel: Do you have xsane installed?
[04:32] <Bitwise> somsip, You're amazing. <3
[04:32] <somsip> Bitwise: does it work now?
[04:33] <trisquel> guest98155: no
[04:33] <Bitwise> Yes
[04:33] <Shed-34046> Hi
[04:33] <somsip> Bitwise: cool :)
[04:33] <Shed-34046> I need help with something.
[04:33] <somsip> !ask | Shed-34046
[04:34] <Shed-34046> My other laptop that i am planning on installing ubuntu to has ATI HD Radeon 3200.. is that compatible with ubuntu 13.10?
[04:34] <guest98155> trisquel:  I would install xsane or vuescan to test your scanner. If they don't work, it must be a deeper problem with the driver setup or scanner backend missing something.
[04:35] <Shed-34046> It current runs windows 7 but i want to get rid of windows... ugh
[04:36] <somsip> Shed-34046: it's on the list, so it suggest it is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver However that is the free driver, and the news for proprietary is not so good http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2139644 You may have performance issues with the free drivers
[04:37] <Shed-34046> I'm asking as i am wondering because i want the compiz effect wobbly windows :P
[04:37] <somsip> Shed-34046: read the full thread on the second link
[04:38] <maysara> Hello, How can I convert a .srt file or a txt file to UTF-8?
[04:39] <somsip> maysara: it is a text file. It's just in a format that is suitable for subtitle readers. A decent editor will allow you to Save As utf8 if it's not already
[04:39] <Shed-34046> somsip so would i be able to use wobbly windows compiz effect if i don't enable or try to enable the additional drivers?
[04:39] <somsip> maysara: sorry - misread the first part of the question...
[04:40] <somsip> Shed-34046: I can't say for sure. Free drivers are lower performance than proprietary ones. I'm not sure how much performance you need for wobbly windows to work
[04:40] <Shed-34046> somsip okay :)
[04:41] <Bitwise> somsip, Are you familiar with RoundCube?
[04:41] <Shed-34046> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer as well windows lags to much and i want to have a different computer then the one i am on with windows 8.1 that i use for anything.. I heard ubuntu has free office apps.. They'll come in hany when i start college :)
[04:42] <somsip> Bitwise: nope
[04:42] <Bitwise> Hmmm.
[04:45] <maysara> somsip: the enconding of the file is cp1256. I want to convert it to utf-8 so I can open it with aegisub
[04:46] <somsip> !info iconv | maysara
[04:46] <maysara> Kate didn't convert it
[04:46] <somsip> maysara: maybe this will help? http://superuser.com/questions/554349/change-encoding-of-txt-file
[04:49] <maysara> somsip: If the package doesn't exist in sausy. How am I supposted to try this answer?
[04:49] <somsip> !find iconv
[04:49] <trisquel> guest98155: i installed xsane and its not detecting i think its scanner backend issue
[04:49] <somsip> maysara: it must be in some other package but I? can't see which one. Have you tried running it to see if it is installed?
[04:50] <trisquel> guest98155: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SANE%20-%20Installing%20a%20scanner%20that%20isn%27t%20auto-detected
[04:50] <somsip> maysara: iconv --help gives me output so maybe try that
[04:50] <trisquel> guest98155: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html
[04:50] <maysara> somsip: thank you
[04:51] <trisquel> guest98155: my scanner is listed in the second link..
[04:51] <trisquel> guest98155: complete support i checked the product id also
[04:53] <ptgx85> I know this isn't exactly a ubuntu question, but does "# multi_Accept on;" under events in the nginx.conf file mean that it's actually disabled because of the hash mark?
[04:54] <somsip> ptgx85: #nginx is more suited to your needs
[04:54] <ptgx85> somsip: yeah I posted it there, it's just kind of dead it seems.
[04:54] <Shed-34046> Later this year i am going to build a PC and put ubuntu on it :)
[04:55] <Shed-34046> I plan to give the PC I plan to build 10GB of ram :P
[04:55] <trisquel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SANE - Installing a scanner that isn't auto-detected can someone assist me with this
[04:55] <somsip> ptgx85: some others have been discussing nginx here so maybe you'll get lucky
[04:55] <somsip> Shed-34046: good for you, but chat like that should go in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:56] <Shed-34046> somsip oops sorry i didn't know :P Thanks for lettin' me know :)
[04:56] <somsip> Shed-34046: np
[04:56] <trisquel> Hi
[04:59] <kcdehimposter> Question: Hey I am building a computer with a Radeon HD 7870 2 GB video card and was wondering what would be the best version of Ubuntu I could choose for the best performance out of it.
[04:59] <rww> kcdehimposter: version as in 12.04 vs. 13.10?
[04:59] <kcdehimposter> Yes
[05:00] <rww> kcdehimposter: newer is better, especially if you're going to use the open source driver
[05:00]  * rww has a 7870
[05:00] <kcdehimposter> So 14.04?
[05:00] <Shed-34046> somsip does it effect the speed of ubuntu if i have it installed where i can choose to boot from ubuntu or windows?
[05:00] <Shed-34046> *boot to
[05:01] <rww> kcdehimposter: I can't recommend that yet because it isn't out, so let's go with 13.10 until 14.04's out ;)
[05:01] <somsip> kcdehimposter: although it sounds like you want performance, so you'll be using the proprietary driver, and there are loads of links that might be helpful from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[05:01] <somsip> Shed-34046: no
[05:01] <kcdehimposter> Thanks, was just double checking before I made an install on a usb drive
[05:02] <rww> kcdehimposter, somsip: fglrx's performance is worse for 2D rendering and the gap between radeon and fglrx continues to close on 3D. fglrx is also not the most stable thing in the world. something to keep in mind.
[05:02] <somsip> rww: I didn't know. Thanks for the info.
[05:02] <rww> I'd say try both, but fglrx is also a pain to get rid of sometimes.
[05:02] <rww> but yes, if you only care about 3D for gaming or something (or you're going to be cryptocurrency mining...), go with fglrx
[05:02] <somsip> Shed-34046: see what rww says above about the performance of the Radeon drivers
[05:03] <tongcx> hi guys, i just learned about resize2fs, but actually how does fdisk, mkfs.ext4 works together?
[05:03] <tongcx> like where is partition table, why i need to resize the ext4 fs?
[05:03] <bob1> Is there a way to remove the name of the open program in the Unity bar at the top of the screen. i.e. to hide 'terminal' or 'firefox'. I'm using Ubuntu 12
[05:03] <Shed-34046> rww is 3D needed for wobbly windows compiz effect?
[05:04] <rww> Shed-34046: yes, but I think either driver would handle that
[05:04] <rww> depends on your card, I guess
[05:04] <Shed-34046> rww its an intergrated one, the laptop is acer aspire 5517
[05:05] <rww> tongcx: I don't understand your question, but let me take a stab at it anyway: partitions are like containers. filesystems are like things inside them. if you want to change the size of the thing, you need to resize one, then the other
[05:05] <rww> tongcx: or i guess if you were shrinking you could just resize the fs and have a bunch of wasted space in the box, but that would be a waste
[05:05] <tongcx> tongcx: so partition table is in MBR, right? And fdisk basically just change that
[05:06] <tongcx> rww: but when change fs online, why the system won't break?
[05:06] <tongcx> rww: why do we need parition table anyway? fs is not enough?
[05:06] <rww> tongcx: yes, the basic partition table (sdX1 through 4) is in MBR and fdisk modifies that
[05:07] <rww> tongcx: I don't know the answer to online filesystem resizing, I haven't done it much
[05:07] <tongcx> rww: yea, it feels a bit weird
[05:07] <rww> tongcx: You can eschew partition tables and just make a filesystem on /dev/sdX, but it means you only get one filesystem per disk, and some tools don't support it well.
[05:07] <cornfeedhobo> can someone that is familiar with ufw answer some questions for me? I am used to shorewall and micromanaging my iptables rules. but this... well, i have 0 rules and the simple incoming deny/outgoing allow rule.... well why the hell am i connected to irc right now??
[05:07] <rww> (I would not recommend it.)
[05:08] <rww> cornfeedhobo: ufw defaults to allow, not deny
[05:08] <tongcx> rww: it's like you already change the partition table but fs's size is not correct, and then you need to make that right
[05:08] <cornfeedhobo> rww: yes, but i changed that.
[05:08] <rww> cornfeedhobo: using which command?
[05:08] <rww> cornfeedhobo: ufw default reject (or deny)?
[05:08] <cornfeedhobo> deny
[05:09] <rww> cornfeedhobo: have you done ufw enable too?
[05:09] <cornfeedhobo> yeah
[05:09] <cornfeedhobo> one sec, let me check history
[05:09] <rww> cornfeedhobo: ufw status will show it too
[05:09] <rww> "Status: inactive" if you haven't
[05:10] <cornfeedhobo> Status: active   Logging: on (low)   Default: deny (incoming), allow (outgoing)
[05:10] <rww> tongcx: right. if you want to resize larger, you'd make the box/partition bigger, then make the object/filesystem inside it bigger
[05:10] <cornfeedhobo> typing is slower, switching to dvorak right now :)
[05:11] <rww> cornfeedhobo: try ufw default deny outgoing
[05:11] <trisquel> i need some assitance with scanner configuration in ubuntu.
[05:11] <rww> assuming that's what you want
[05:11] <banks> how to i check when the next update is for ubuntu?
[05:11] <banks> i forgot the code
[05:11] <rww> banks: "next update" as in new major version (14.04)?
[05:12] <banks> rww, yes
[05:12] <rww> banks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[05:12] <banks> rww, no its a code
[05:12] <rww> !14.04
[05:12] <rww> !release
[05:12] <banks> sudo apt-update or something along those lines
[05:12] <rww> oh, a terminal code
[05:12] <cornfeedhobo> rww: no, i did that, and it acts as expected. back in the day on gentoo+iptables, even if outgoing was allowed, the resulting return connection was blocked by the incomming rule.
[05:13] <cornfeedhobo> i am just confused as to why i dont have to whitelist incoming like i did in the past
[05:13] <rww> banks: i don't know of a way to check the date of a new ubuntu release through the terminal. you can check if there is one available using do-release-upgrade
[05:14] <rww> cornfeedhobo: because it's stateful by default and does that behavior deliberately. I'm not sure how to change that, checking manpage to see if it's doable now
[05:14] <banks> rww, is 14.04 stable btw? im using 12.04 and when i tried upgrading to 13.10, my computer almost wen to hell
[05:14] <rww> banks: no, 14.04 hasn't been released yet, it's still in testing
[05:14] <cfhowlett> banks, you want stability?  perhaps upgrading to a BETA OS won't achieve that
[05:14] <rww> banks: the only supported upgrade route from 12.04 to 13.10 is through 12.10 and 13.04. did you do all that?
[05:15] <cornfeedhobo> rww: thats what i was wondering. so because it's stateful, it allows the resulting reply? looking iptables makes me think so, but i am still not the best at reading raw
[05:15] <rww> cornfeedhobo: correct
[05:15] <cornfeedhobo> ok. thanks
[05:16] <dopie> how do i kill the process
[05:16] <cornfeedhobo> really appreciate it :)
[05:16] <dopie> google chrome?
[05:16] <banks> rww, no i didnt and anyway i get black screens if i try and upgrade to any version other than LTS, i even tried quiet splash and nomodeset, is 13.04 released and stable?
[05:16] <cornfeedhobo> dopie: that is a very open question
[05:16] <banks> cfhowlett, i wasnt planning to upgrade to 14.04, i was jsut asking
[05:17] <cfhowlett> banks, 13.04 is end of life and the current LTS is 12.04 - from which you can upgrade directly to the next LTS 14.04
[05:17] <banks> cfhowlett, what do you mean end of life?
[05:17] <cfhowlett> !eol|banks,
[05:18] <dopie> is it??
[05:18] <banks> cfhowlett, ok i got it, thanks!
[05:18] <dopie> cornfeedhobo, i want to kill it because its frozen
[05:19] <cornfeedhobo> dopie: i figured. first you need the pid
[05:19] <cornfeedhobo> dopie: i will not be best for advice. my install is heavily modified and running kde
[05:20] <dopie> how do i get the pid
[05:20] <dopie> ?
[05:20] <cornfeedhobo> top, htop, pidof, various ways
[05:22] <cornfeedhobo> i am not sure if gnome has this, but in kde, there is a defaul key combo of ctrl+alt+esc that will kill the next window you click on, maybe that may be of more ease to you
[05:22] <somsip> dopie: xkill in a terminal, then click on the window, as an alternative
[05:25] <cornfeedhobo> rww: thanks again. take care
[05:26] <harsesus> just do a 'killall PROGRAMNAME'
[05:26] <harsesus> it doesn't need the pid
[05:31] <dupingping> Hi
[05:31] <Sargun> HI
[05:32] <dupingping> I wish install VPS(Virtual Private Server) on Ubuntu13.0
[05:32] <trisquel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SANE%20-%20Installing%20a%20scanner%20that%20isn%27t%20auto-detected
[05:32] <cfhowlett> !vps
[05:32] <dupingping> Where i get VPS for ubuntu13.10?
[05:32] <bob1> Is anyone familiar with modifying the Unity bar on Ubuntu 12?
[05:32] <trisquel> can someone explain step 2 please?
[05:33] <cfhowlett> trisquel, run the command.  search for the #example-backend line.  delete the #.  save the file.
[05:33] <Sargun> Are there any Ubuntu WebDav mirrors?
[05:34] <trisquel> cfhowlett: run which command ?
[05:34] <trisquel> cfhowlett: can i share the file content with u?
[05:34] <cfhowlett> trisquel, sudo gedit yadayadayada...
[05:34] <trisquel> sudo gedit /etc/sane.d/dll.conf
[05:35] <cfhowlett> trisquel, no need to share.    just search out the #example-end and remove the # then save
[05:35] <rabbit5> could someone maybe help with a small issue I'm having
[05:36] <cfhowlett> !aks|rabbit5,
[05:36] <rabbit5> how does someone remove this from a debian/ubuntu etc
[05:36] <rabbit5> wlan0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/wpa_supplicant[2879], /sbin/dhclient[3637])
[05:36] <rabbit5> i used chkrootkit
[05:36] <rabbit5> and found that with my distro and was wondering if any of you folks had any ideas?
[05:48] <Richhh> how to remove all files in a folder except those with a certain filename? or remove all files in a folder except those with a certain extension?
[05:49] <Richhh> in bash
[05:50] <rww> Richhh: "in bash" means using only bash builtins, or are coreutils allowed too?
[05:51] <rww> Richhh: also, do you want to recurse into subfolders, or no?
[05:51] <rww> (also, do you want to delete subfolders, or no?)
[05:52] <Richhh> coreutils fine, probably wont need to delete subfolders
[05:53] <Richhh> knowing both would be useful
[05:53] <Richhh> (recursive and non-recursive)
[05:53] <rww> recursive is easier: find . ! -iname *.txt -delete
[05:53] <rww> if you're in bash, you'll need \! instead of !
[05:53] <rww> you should probably do without -delete first to check
[05:54] <rww> oh, and add -type f before the ! to ignore directories
[05:54] <rww> that command is "find in the current directory things that do not (!) have the case-insensitive name matching *.txt, and delete them"
[05:54] <rww> to only do the current directory, not recursing, use -maxdepth 1
[05:55] <Richhh> ah ok \! is not, got it
[05:56] <jcrubino> I am running 14.04 beta and I am getting E: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA'
[05:56] <jcrubino> when I apt-get update
[05:56] <rww> jcrubino: #ubuntu+1 for 14.04
[05:56] <cfhowlett> !trusty|jcrubino,
[05:57] <rww> Richhh: ! is not. You need to escape it in bash so it doesn't think it's a special bash thing, hence \!
[05:57] <rww> otherwise you get a weird error message and your command doesn't work
[05:59] <aclffrd> if i'm changing my dhcp server to dish out 172.16.0.0-172.16.0.4 (currently it only has a 254 range), is there anything more i need to consider except for changing the netmask and dhcp taking care of the rest?
[05:59] <Richhh> thanks for the detailed answer rww
[06:00] <rww> aclffrd: erm, is that supposed to be 172.16.0.0-172.16.4.0?
[06:00] <aclffrd> yes sorry
[06:01] <rww> aclffrd: I've not done a whole lot with dhcpd configuration, but that sounds like enough to me
[06:01] <aclffrd> and obviously mask changes on anything static
[06:07] <rjdt0101> hi!
[06:07] <rjdt0101> i m a new user of ubuntu
[06:07] <cfhowlett> !details|rjdt0101,
[06:07] <Richhh> reading the man page I just learned to '*quote*' my patterns, that's why *foo* wasn't working as expected, ahh
[06:08] <rjdt0101> i encountered with broken pipe error at startup on ubuntu version 12.04 LTS
[06:09] <rjdt0101> and i also checked for quiet splash in grub from commandline
[06:10] <markie-> anybody had any experience with acer aspire one? any good?
[06:11] <rjdt0101> 	i encountered with broken pipe error at startup on ubuntu version 12.04 LTSand i also checked for quiet splash in grub from commandline.Please help me out
[06:11] <kingbeast> markie-: the one I had served me well
[06:12] <geirha> rjdt0101: Seeing the exact line, and the lines around it would help
[06:13] <geirha> rjdt0101: Use a pastebin to paste multiple lines of text
[06:13] <rjdt0101> could not write bytes:Broken pipererror
[06:14] <rjdt0101> pipe error
[06:15] <ResQue> my SSD drive doesnt support the "Secure Mode Feature set" is there anyway i can force or tell the drive to trim every block on the device?
[06:17] <ggreer> ResQue: if you did that, it would erase all data on the drive, right?
[06:18] <ResQue> ggreer: yes, that is fine
[06:18] <ggreer> oh
[06:18] <Jordan_U> ResQue: What is your end goal?
[06:18] <ggreer> but you can't issue an ata secure erase?
[06:18] <ggreer> (he probably wants to nuke all data and make his SSD fast)
[06:18] <evilfix> compared to ubuntu backup with duplicity, mint is a lot longer am i right?
[06:18] <ResQue> ggreer: no, the ssd doenst support atapi secure erase command
[06:19] <ggreer> what's the SSD model?
[06:19] <rww> evilfix: I expect Ubuntu and Mint would take about the same amount of time to run duplicity.
[06:19] <liubuntu> :) hello everyone!
[06:19] <ResQue> ggreer: asus-JM S41
[06:19] <rww> evilfix: We can't really give advice on what changes Mint makes to their packages though, so I guess you should ask them.
[06:19] <ggreer> oh
[06:20] <evilfix> rww: my mint install has some other backup util, not duplicity tho
[06:20] <ggreer> I think you're just SOL :/
[06:20] <mastershake> hey guys im running ubuntu 13.10 server and when i boot its saying "waiting another 60 seconds for network autoconfig" and then it doesnt load any network services.. and it says network-services is already started
[06:20] <liubuntu> does any of you use Dooble browser by any chance?
[06:20] <wheatthin> ok question, can you make duplicity backup more than just the home folder?
[06:20] <rww> evilfix: ah. best to ask them about that.
[06:20] <rww> !mintsupport
[06:20] <cfhowlett> !server|mastershake,
[06:20] <evilfix> thx
[06:20] <liubuntu> does any of you use Dooble browser by any chance?
[06:21] <ResQue> Jordan_U: i want to set every single ssd block back to the value 1 for performance reasons
[06:21] <wheatthin> negative.. chromium/chrome for the win :P
[06:21] <ggreer> maybe there are some params you can pass to fstrim, but I have no experience with that
[06:21] <Jordan_U> ResQue: Then it just requires trim, not secure erase.
[06:21] <liubuntu> ubuntu comes with some older version of dooble and i can't find a way to use flash plugin in Dooble
[06:21] <ggreer> you could probably get close to 100% by formatting the thing ext(whatever), making sure no data is on it (just lost+found), and then issuesing an fstrim
[06:22] <wheatthin> I see the proprietary drivers for fglrx have issues with chromium and the way it gpu accelerates by default
[06:22] <ResQue> Jordan_U: how can i preform a trim on the whole drive?
[06:22] <rjdt0101> Please help me out i m getting could not write bytes:Broken pipe error on ubuntu version 12.04 LTS 64bit
[06:23] <ggreer> ResQue: there's an fstrim utilitiy
[06:23] <ResQue> ggreer: looking at that now thanks, seems this works at the file system level though
[06:23] <ggreer> yeah. you'd have to partition the whole thing into one ext4 or whatever
[06:23] <ggreer> then run fstrim on it
[06:23] <ResQue> ggreer: sounds like a plan i will try that now
[06:24] <ggreer> that'd trim 99.9% of the blocks
[06:24] <ggreer> in practice, I've found that ata secure erase improves performance much more than trimming all free space. at least with intel drives (x-25m G2 and 3xx series)
[06:25] <ggreer> but trimming is definitely better than nothing
[06:25] <ResQue> ggreer: i agree, but unless i am doing something really stupid here the drive doesnt support secure erase
[06:25] <ggreer> :(
[06:26] <ggreer> that's a weird SSD. pci-e, supports trim, but no secure erase
[06:26] <ResQue> i tried ggreer i tried hdparm -I on two drives, one clearly says it has the secuitry mode feature set which is part of the ata standard, but the ssd in my eee pc note book doesnt list any such feature set
[06:27] <ggreer> yeah I totally believe you
[06:27] <ResQue> ggreer: i just assumed trim support would be there, how can i check?
[06:27] <ggreer> hmm
[06:27] <ggreer> not sure
[06:27] <ggreer> I don't think I've ever queried a drive for that feature. I just look it up
[06:28] <Jordan_U> ResQue: *Carefully* use blkdiscard.
[06:29] <ggreer> I have the weirdest bug with the backlight brightness on my x140e. no matter what I tried with acpi or boot args or fglrx vs radeon drivers, I couldn't get it to dim. in ubuntu, it was always at max brightness
[06:30] <ggreer> then I saw a bios update that had, "fix brightness setting on linux" in the changelog
[06:30] <ggreer> so I upgraded... no dice
[06:30] <ggreer> but once I reset the bios (and then rescued my ubuntu install. thanks uefi), it auto-dimmed
[06:30] <ggreer> I still can't manually set it, but at least battery life is a decent 9 hours instead of 6
[06:31] <ggreer> it's a very new model, but I figured since it was certified I'd have no issues
[06:31] <ggreer> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201309-14195/
[06:32] <ResQue> Jordan_U: thanks a lot
[06:33] <rjdt0101> somebody help me out
[06:33] <Jordan_U> ResQue: You're welcome.
[06:37] <Jordan_U> ggreer: I was surprised to hear about an update that fixes a bug that only affects linux. The fact that it's certified may be the only reason such an update was available.
[06:39] <ggreer> I ran into bugs with almost every bit of harware
[06:39] <ggreer> *hardware
[06:40] <ggreer> bluetooth didn't work out of the box (it was detected just fine, but couldn't see any devices or pair with them. I had to compile a custom driver)
[06:40] <ggreer> the installer crashed on startup. I had to use the alternate installer
[06:40] <ResQue> Jordan_U: is blkdiscard in the ubuntu repo?
[06:41] <ggreer> the bios is uefi, so dual-booting was a big pain. also memtest86 can't seem to boot in uefi
[06:41] <ggreer> to get graphics working, I had to grab the beta binary drivers, then patch those with something I found on the arch forums
[06:43] <ggreer> wifi transferred at 200kB/sec max, so I had to grab some binary drivers from the broadcom website and fix compilation errors with the latest kernel
[06:43] <ggreer> next time I'll be wary of "certified" hardware
[06:43] <Jordan_U> ResQue: Looks like it's not available in the version of util-linux provided in 13.10 :(
[06:44] <ggreer> now that it works, it's a pretty sweet laptop. if macbook airs didn't exist, I'd definitely use it as my main computer
[06:45] <Jordan_U> ResQue: You can use multiple hdparm trim sector range requests.
[06:46] <Jordan_U> ResQue: For a one time thing you could also boot an Ubuntu 14.04 (development) LiveDVD or a Fedora 20 (final) DVD, either of which should have blkdiscard.
[06:47] <ggreer> maybe plug into ethernet and apt-get install it?
[06:47] <ggreer> it'd only last for that boot, but that's all you need
[06:48] <Jordan_U> ResQue: Actually, it's not even in 14.04 yet (but is in Fedora 20).
[06:50] <Chisholm> OK i have a gigabyte 970a-ud3p m/b and i installed Ubuntu 13... I cant find any driver installs for ubuntu linux can anyone help?
[06:51] <helmut_> hi
[06:51] <ikonia> why are you looking for drivers
[06:51] <ikonia> what's not working
[06:51] <Chisholm> becuase the disc wont auto pop
[06:51] <ikonia> Chisholm: what ?
[06:51] <ResQue> Jordan_U: i just tried fstrim on my SSD and it says "Operation not support" is it possible for an SSD not to have trim, i thought erasing blocks was how the srive works internaly
[06:51] <ikonia> Chisholm: what is auto pop ?
[06:52] <ggreer> ResQue: it's definitely possible. the x-25m didn't have it until the G2, and even then it was only after a firmware update
[06:52] <Chisholm> pop the cd in and it starts the applciation
[06:52] <ikonia> Chisholm: what CD ?
[06:52] <ikonia> Chisholm: what application are you trying to run
[06:52] <ggreer> you could try checking for a firmware update, but I bet your SSD doesn't support trim
[06:52] <Chisholm> my gigbyte driver install disk
[06:52] <ikonia> Chisholm: why ?
[06:52] <ikonia> Chisholm: why are you trying to run something off this CD - that CD will not contain linux software
[06:53] <ResQue> ggreer: thanks, i just didnt hdparam -I and i dont see TRIM anywhere, is that where it  would normaly be listed?
[06:53] <Chisholm> for some reason the usb 2.0 and ethenet do not work right now
[06:53] <Chisholm> only the 3.0\
[06:53] <Chisholm> right ikonia i figured that out
[06:53] <ikonia> Chisholm: so the USB2 ports don't work, but the USB3 port does,
[06:53] <Chisholm> but now where do i find the drives
[06:53] <rjdt0101> hi
[06:53] <Chisholm> correct and i ahve no internet either
[06:53] <rjdt0101> please help
[06:53] <ggreer> ResQue: when I run hdparm -I, I see trim-related stuff on my SSD
[06:54] <ikonia> Chisholm: ok, one moment
[06:54] <Chisholm> ty
[06:54] <ggreer> Data Set Management TRIM supported (limit 8 blocks)
[06:54] <ggreer> Deterministic read ZEROs after TRIM
[06:54] <rjdt0101> Please help me out i m getting "could not write bytes:Broken pipe error"	on ubuntu version 12.04 LTS 64bit
[06:55] <evilfix> is 13.10 worth getting or no?
[06:55] <ggreer> evilfix: as opposed to... ?
[06:55] <ResQue> ggreer: thanks
[06:55] <evilfix> 12.04
[06:56] <cfhowlett> evilfix, how would we know?  we don't know your needs/uses/goals
[06:56] <ikonia> Chisholm: ok, the first thing is, according to the info on the web, that board has no usb2 ports, only usb 3
[06:56] <ikonia> Chisholm: sorry, my mistake
[06:56] <Chisholm> i have 2 3.0 and 8 2.0
[06:56] <ikonia> it does have them, miss-read
[06:56] <ggreer> ResQue: you're welcome. sorry your SSD isn't in the cool people club
[06:56] <Chisholm> 6 i mean
[06:57] <ikonia> Chisholm: the gigabyte site is down at the moment, so I can't see it's info to see what ethernet card is in it
[06:57] <Chisholm> realtek gbe
[06:57] <Chisholm> 10/100/1000 mbit
[06:57] <ikonia> Chisholm: that's not the chipset, that's just the brand
[06:57] <IOerror> When I try to install Desktop or Server x32 on my netbook, it will copy all the files to the HDD and then just reboot during the post-install script.  Can anyone help me resolve this?
[06:57] <Chisholm> right thats where i am cunfused
[06:57] <ikonia> Chisholm: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4717 that's the product page for it, but as you see, it's down
[06:57] <Chisholm> i cant seem to find the chipset info anywhere
[06:58] <Chisholm> http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4717#sp
[06:58] <ikonia> Chisholm: give it an hour and I'll check again (ping me in this channel) and we'll see if the info is up
[06:58] <Chisholm> try that its the ame its working for me
[06:58] <ikonia> Chisholm: that's frustratingly missing bits
[06:59] <ikonia> Chisholm: how are you testing your ethernet card (that seems the most important bit)
[06:59] <Chisholm> I have zero internet and orange light
[06:59] <ggreer> battery is at 71% with 7 hours remaining. sweet sweet backlight auto-dimming
[06:59] <ikonia> Chisholm: you have no light on the card ?
[07:00] <ikonia> Chisholm: as in the link light
[07:00] <Chisholm> tried the usual, but then read the m/b manuel says i have to install drivers with disk before they work
[07:00] <Chisholm> just for the 2.0's and ethernet
[07:00] <Chisholm> so whack
[07:00] <ikonia> Chisholm: is there any light on the ethernet card at all
[07:01] <ikonia> Chisholm: (it must have a cable plugged in at both ends for the light to come on)
[07:01] <Chisholm> there is now that i am in the bios
[07:01] <Chisholm> yea got a cat 6 brand new on it
[07:01] <ikonia> Chisholm: so there is a link light, correct ?
[07:01] <IOerror> When installing Ubuntu server, my netbook will reboot just before the MBR write section.  Is there a way to escape out of the installer to see what the error is?
[07:01] <Chisholm> yea a good green one first time yet, but as i said im in the bios about to 1-flash the m/b
[07:02] <Chisholm> q-flash**
[07:02] <ikonia> why are you flashing the motherboard ?
[07:02] <aki2389> IOerror: if I'm not wrong, you can try going to ctrl+alt+1
[07:02] <cfhowlett> IOerror, there's a way to monitor processes as it's running but I don't know the terminal command...
[07:02] <IOerror> aki2389: 1 as in the number one?
[07:02] <aki2389> IOerror: yeah, either that or F1. I don't remember.
[07:03] <aki2389> IOerror: just try all of them. I think it goes all the way to F9
[07:03] <trisquel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6958565/
[07:03] <E17Noob> I am new to Enlightenment, I just wanted to try it out. I have a Dell laptop with Ubuntu installed. I installed e17 using apt-get and was able to successfully launch into e17 desktop. But my problem is with the dual monitors. E17 mirrors the displays instead of extending it, can someone help me configure it please?
[07:03] <aki2389> IOerror: sorry, I'm pretty sure it's F6/F7
[07:03] <IOerror> aki2389: I will give it a shot.
[07:04] <aki2389> E17Noob: I don't think you'll find any help here regarding that... try google
[07:04] <E17Noob> I did without luck aki2389.
[07:04] <shooj> be mindful that when you set the cloak it can take a few seconds to configure
[07:04] <IOerror> aki2389: Do you know if there is a way to prevent the PC from rebooting if it is a panic or something?
[07:04] <Chisholm> ikonia i am gonna try to exit bios and go back to os
[07:05] <aki2389> trisquel: sorry, were you needing help?
[07:05] <ikonia> Chisholm: I have to run now, I'll ba back shortly, get yourself setup with any updates you want to do,
[07:05] <Chisholm> but it seems everytime i do that the green light stops and orange goes on
[07:05] <shooj> so if you have any /autoscripts that log you into channels when you connect to the server; it may be best to but a timer or verification in there to only join channels /after/ the cloak is set.
[07:05] <Chisholm> ok
[07:05] <shooj> but a timer = put a timer
[07:06] <Shed-34046> Just got ubuntu up and running
[07:06] <shooj> what version
[07:06] <Shed-34046> I was told its possible to zoom in on screen.. If so how do i do this?
[07:06] <Shed-34046> shooj, ubuntu 13.10
[07:06] <shooj> oh i'm sorry, i'm talking in the wrong channel
[07:06] <IOerror> aki2389: Woo, thanx!  I was able to get the error!
[07:06] <shooj> nice, shed
[07:06] <aki2389> IOerror: nice ^^
[07:07] <shooj> i'm playing around with trusty tahr (gnome version)
[07:07] <love12> hello evry body i have  qustions  i have already installed  squid3 in ubuntu server but i can not  acccess it internet  any help please/
[07:07] <aki2389> Shed-34046: ermm... there is an app for that I think. You need to look for it
[07:07] <cfhowlett> IOerror, this was the server edition, yes?  #ubuuntu-server might be worth asking
[07:07] <aki2389> love12: try looking up the log
[07:08] <IOerror> cfhowlett: it does the same thing on Desktop
[07:08] <aki2389> love12: cat /var/log/squid/error.log or something
[07:08] <rowinofwin> Hi Guys, I have a strange issue with this system. I have an AMD r7 250 with proprietary drivers, when I run a 64 bit game in opengl all is good, in 32 bit it renders everything wrong, all the textures are messed up but the wireframes are intact
[07:09] <Chisholm> i was getting help before but they had to run, can anyone tell me where to get linux drivers for this motherboard
[07:09] <Chisholm> http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4717#sp
[07:09] <aki2389> rowinofwin: have you tried the propietary driver instead of the one that comes with Ubuntu?
[07:09] <cfhowlett> IOerror, hmm.  ok, next suggestion: netbooks usually prefer a somewhat less substantial meal: lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for that.  Heck, even the mini ISO might be worth looking at.  and, of course, make sure your bits are right; 32/64?
[07:09] <love12> aki2389: the error in the browser is looks like "The system returned: (111) Connection refused"
[07:09] <aki2389> love12: are you using any firewall?
[07:09]  * chris-foo is now playing: Nature's Tranquility - Water Meadow Suite
[07:09] <aki2389> if yes, you need to open port 3128
[07:10] <IOerror> cfhowlett: yes, 32 bit
[07:10] <IOerror> I've tried all flavors of Ubuntu
[07:10] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: The drivers should be included with the kernel package that gets installed when you install Ubuntu.
[07:10] <love12> aki2389: no
[07:10] <cfhowlett> IOerror, you're using 13.10?
[07:10] <Jordan_U> chris-foo: Please disable that script in #ubuntu.
[07:10] <Chisholm> hmm interesting it seems not
[07:10] <Chisholm> my usb 2.0 and etherenet are not working
[07:11] <aki2389> love12: the only thing I can think of for a connection refused is that there is something blocking the port...
[07:11] <IOerror> cfhowlett: yes
[07:11] <love12> aki2389:  so how can i check it or how can i solve it?
[07:12] <cfhowlett> IOerror, suggest you drop back to the LTS version: 12.04
[07:12] <IOerror> Here's the error: http://pastebin.com/quYXgWpV
[07:12] <aki2389> love12: try sudo ufw status
[07:12] <aki2389> IOerror: try 64bit
[07:13] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: it also says at the bottom of the info get all drivers from 3rd party our the company site
[07:13] <rowinofwin> Here are screenshots http://imgur.com/a/b7OLN#0
[07:13] <IOerror> ok...
[07:13] <IOerror> My CPU is an Atom N230, it is specifically 32 bit only, but I'll try...
[07:13] <Chisholm> could it be a v 13 issue?
[07:13] <aki2389> IOerror: wait, lemme check
[07:14] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Generally, the drivers you pick up from 3rd party sites are made for the Windows kernel.
[07:14] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Ah, never mind. I just got to that part of the page.
[07:14] <aki2389> IOerror: N230 is 64-bit capable according to intel
[07:14] <Chisholm> right
[07:14] <Chisholm> its whack i dont really understand it
[07:14] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: which kernel version are you running?
[07:14] <shooj> anyone using trusty tahr?
[07:14] <IOerror> "This kernel requires an x85-64 CPU..."
[07:14] <IOerror> x86-64
[07:15] <Chisholm> its  64 bit v 13
[07:15] <aki2389> IOerror: you just tried?
[07:15] <IOerror> yes
[07:15] <IOerror> Mutliboot thumbdrive for the win :)
[07:15] <love12> aki2389:  iam in the root but it says ufw is not found?
[07:16] <aki2389> love12: are you using ubuntu?
[07:16] <IOerror> Now the odd issue is I can boot into LiveCD just fine.  it's only when I install that I get this issue.
[07:16] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Do you mean Linux 3.13 x86_64? You can check by starting the System Monitor application or by running the command uname -a in the terminal
[07:16] <aki2389> IOerror: I guess trying different version is your last choice then...
[07:16] <GnikLlort> !shutup
[07:17] <Chisholm> herpderphurr k give me a sec
[07:17] <love12> aki2389:  debian server
[07:17] <IOerror> It does the same thing with Debian 7.3.0 and 7.4.0 :/
[07:17] <IOerror> Arg!
[07:17] <GnikLlort> !words
[07:17] <swaglord546> I know 29539 words (169231 contexts, 5.73 per word), 26369 lines.
[07:17] <icedwater> !wrong bot
[07:17] <EsotericForest> hmm
[07:17] <GnikLlort> my bot
[07:17] <rww> GnikLlort: remove your bot from this channel, please
[07:17] <aki2389> love12: debian doesn't have ufw... since ufw is Ubuntu FireWall
[07:17] <rww> aki2389: yes, it does
[07:17] <bazhang> GnikLlort, please stop that
[07:17] <GnikLlort> She is harmless
[07:18] <aki2389> rww: huh u sure?
[07:18] <rww> aki2389: yes
[07:18] <rww> aki2389: also, it's Uncomplicated FireWall
[07:18] <herpderphurr> aki2389: ufw is definitely installed on my netbook running Debian
[07:18] <rww> !guidelines > GnikLlort
[07:18] <rww> GnikLlort: note the "no bots except ones we like" section (paraphrased)
[07:18] <aki2389> lol... I'm dumb. My bad
[07:18] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: im not seeing that type of information
[07:19] <aki2389> love12: have you tried restarting squid and see if it works?
[07:19] <love12> aki2389:  so how can i check it in debian ofcourse iam not  to much familar in debian?
[07:19] <SirCmpwn> what package should I install to get a dev toolchain
[07:20] <rww> SirCmpwn: build-essential
[07:20] <SirCmpwn> tyvm
[07:20] <shooj> anyone using awesome?
[07:20] <SirCmpwn> I was, but I switched to i3
[07:20] <aki2389> love12: I'm not 100% sure but it should be something like "sudo service squid restart"
[07:20] <love12> aki2389:  yes i have already restart it says it works
[07:20] <GnikLlort> !save
[07:20] <swaglord546> okay
[07:20] <GnikLlort> !quit
[07:20] <rww> GnikLlort: thanks :)
[07:21] <shooj> what's i3?how is it?
[07:21] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Do you know anything else about your LAN chip?
[07:21] <GnikLlort> She will be back btw
[07:21] <aki2389> love12: try probing the port to see if it's open
[07:21] <rww> GnikLlort: in here?
[07:21] <Chisholm> all i got is realtek gbe 10/100/100 mbit
[07:21] <GnikLlort> Everywhere
[07:21] <GnikLlort> mwahahahha
[07:21] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Hmm... try running "lspci | grep Ethernet" in the terminal. Copy and paste the 1-line result here
[07:22] <love12> aki2389:  but when i  run the status i mean service squid3 status it says  squid is runinig but it doesnt show the proccess ID
[07:22] <aki2389> that is fine
[07:22] <aki2389> love12: there is no error in the log right?
[07:22] <shooj> (wiki time) :P
[07:22] <trisquel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6958633/
[07:22] <Chisholm> terminallspci| grep Ethernet
[07:22] <rww> AussieDownUnder: IRC usermode +i means that /whois only shows channels that you share with another person, rather than all channels
[07:23] <rww> AussieDownUnder: also, ubottu is not a natural language bot
[07:24] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Forgive me for not asking earlier. How familiar are you with Ubuntu? I want to be able to properly tailor my instructions for you.
[07:24] <shooj> i was going to install awesome, but then i installed a hotkey activated dropdown terminal and decided that was good enough for the time being.
[07:24] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: realtek semiconductor, ltd rtl8111/8168/8411 p ci express gig ethernet
[07:24] <shooj> but now i'm thinking about installing it again, so i can have a few shells all on screen in an easy to manage view
[07:24] <aki2389> love12: try installing nmap
[07:25] <jozefk> Are lubuntu and xubuntu developed and supported by canonical or not?
[07:25] <aki2389> love12: and using this command "nmap localhost -p3128"
[07:25] <ggreer> https://github.com/search?l=C&o=desc&q=stars%3A%3E1000&ref=advsearch&s=stars&type=Repositories booyah I'm #10
[07:25] <SirCmpwn> where are the zlib headers?
[07:25] <SirCmpwn> infuriatingly, the package is not called zlib
[07:25] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: first time user hardly familiar but i am a quick learner
[07:25] <ggreer> SirCmpwn: zlib1g-dev
[07:25] <ggreer> apt-get install that
[07:25] <ggreer> you might also want liblzma-dev
[07:25] <Chisholm> as i just figured that out, but i feel that was an easy part
[07:26] <ggreer> if you're screwing around with compression libs
[07:26] <SirCmpwn> thanks ggreer
[07:26] <ggreer> np
[07:26] <AussieDownUnder> Erm how come you replied here when I asked over in another channel?
[07:26] <SirCmpwn> I'm satisfying dependencies for a ./configure
[07:26] <AussieDownUnder> rww, ^
[07:26] <rww> AussieDownUnder: I saw you asking in PM with ubottu, not whatever other channel you also asked in.
[07:27] <rww> AussieDownUnder: she relays text matching a certain string to us, as it looks like a factoid edit request
[07:27] <love12> aki2389:  for what perpose we use "nmap"
[07:27] <aki2389> love12: port scanning
[07:27] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: All right. we might have the same Ethernet chip. Can you try running, "lspci -nn | grep Ethernet" into the terminal and posting the result? "lspci" lists all the PCI devices in your system, and grep will filter out anything that doesn't contain "Ethernet"
[07:27] <Chisholm> ok
[07:28] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: this time, the "-nn" option to lspci tells the program to give us the vendor and device ID of your network controller
[07:29] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: gettting a repeat line and command not found
[07:29] <AussieDownUnder> rww, okay still know idea about how irc operates lol, 1-2 weeks of me on irc for the first time. It's like an Egyptian maths quiz
[07:29] <rww> AussieDownUnder: ah. the intricacies of ubottu are probably something you should ignore for now, then :)
[07:30] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: hmm.... so the output doesn't have anything like "[10ec:8168]" near the end?
[07:30] <IOerror> aki2389: Well, good news is my error isn't from a bad stick of RAM.  Bad news is it must be my CPU :/
[07:31] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: nada im not even getting a good return
[07:31] <Chisholm> just blank
[07:31] <aki2389> IOerror: that's what i feared...
[07:31] <Chisholm> then command not found
[07:31] <love12> aki2389:  instaltion is in progress but i have already change the  defoult port 3128 to 8080
[07:31] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: hand on i restarted the terminal
[07:31] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: got a responses
[07:31] <IOerror> aki2389: Poor little EeePC survived Iraq, Afghanistan, and my kids... It does when playing with Ubuntu... Go figure.
[07:32] <IOerror> Dies*
[07:32] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Must have been a typo that caused our "command not found" error last time
[07:32] <Chisholm> herpderphurr:{10ec:8168}
[07:32] <cfhowlett> IOerror, sorry to hear it.
[07:32] <Chisholm> and a 3:00.0 in the front
[07:32] <IOerror> Thanx for everyone's assistance.  Maybe I can reuse some of the parts....
[07:33] <aki2389> IOerror: although if liveCD works, you can always install it on an SD Card or something
[07:33] <ggreer> IOerror: give it a viking funeral
[07:33] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Okay. That's good news.
[07:33] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: downlad the 8168 software?
[07:34] <ggreer> http://geoff.greer.fm/photos/thermite/P1010014_crop.jpg <-- you died well, sparcstation
[07:34] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: No, not yet. If we find out what's going on, you don't need to download anything else
[07:34] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: In the terminal, what does the command "uname -a" output?
[07:34] <Chisholm> ok cool
[07:34] <IOerror> Hmm.. one last idea... how do I turn off APIC for the installer?
[07:35] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: hang on im on 2 different computers here so i ahve to type it out
[07:35] <IOerror> nevermind, got it
[07:35] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: sure thing. no rushes
[07:36] <Chisholm> Linux Tempes1 3.11.0.12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86 64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:36] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Oh, and to help you learn. uname prints out information about your kernel version. (the '-a' option tells it to print all info)
[07:37] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: ahhh that makes sense gotcha
[07:37] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Okay, cool. One last check. Run "lsmod | grep r8169". Do you get any results printed?
[07:38] <love12> aki2389: this is the result when i try    http://paste.ubuntu.com/6958665/
[07:38] <aki2389> love12: something is blocking your port
[07:38] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: The command "lsmod" lists the drivers that are currently loaded into the kernel. "grep" only allows results that contain "r8169" to filter through
[07:39] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: (red)r8169     White 67341  0
[07:39] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys after just upgrading my kernel as it suggested in the upgrades I notice that my font is viewed a little differently playing with Settings > fonts and hinting does not help
[07:39] <aki2389> love12: I'm guessing that there is a firewall active...
[07:39] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: (white) mil       13934    1     (red) r 8169
[07:39] <aki2389> love12: try "sudo iptables -L"
[07:39] <Kartagis> can I increase sensitivity of photorec or testdisk?
[07:39] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Okay. that's also good news. The hardware and software drivers are okay for ethernet are okay.
[07:40] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: So we can eliminate the possibility that you're missing drivers. :D
[07:40] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: ok that good but bad haha whats wrong haha
[07:40] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: what ever it is is affecting both usb 2.0 and ethernet
[07:41] <love12> aki2389: so how can i disable the firwall?
[07:41] <love12> aki2389: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6958670/
[07:41] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: and the 3.0 usb and 2.0 on the front
[07:42] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Is this computer recently built? Is Ubuntu the first OS you're installing on it?
[07:42] <Chisholm> about 3 hrs ago
[07:42] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: just built
[07:42] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: and yes first os
[07:42] <aki2389> love12: your firewall is definitely off... oh! your squid configuration. did you open the ip list?
[07:43] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Hmmm.... Your router doesn't have any firewall or blocking rules blocking your new computer from connecting, does it?
[07:44] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: shouldnt i ave a motorola- cisco- tp link 24 port switch
[07:44] <Chisholm> only have an password nothing razy on it
[07:44] <love12> aki2389: ip list?
[07:44] <Psil0Cybin> hey giuys after upgrading to Linux 3.2.0-59-generic-pae #90-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 7 23:07:06 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux my cedarview graphic driver keps crashing and I cannot use the function light keys would I jut uninstall the current kernel and try the old one
[07:45] <aki2389> love12: can you past the config file for squid?
[07:46] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, unless you deleted it, the old kernel is still present.  reboot, choose "older version" and logon
[07:46] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: is this the only solution, along side with filing bug reports? I keep having issues with every new kernel upgrade that my system recommends I upgrade to
[07:46] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Do you use this switch with any other computers?
[07:46] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: yea had it on this laptop
[07:46] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: worked fine just plug and play pretty much
[07:47] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: I am wondering if I can attempt something different, or should I just stick to one kernel that works?
[07:48] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, I'm guessing you've got a newish computer?  hardware support for new/bleeding edge stuff has a higher likelihood of issues.  submitting bug reports helps, but it does take time.  using the LTS version is another option.
[07:48] <krababbel> Psil0Cybin: First, I'd try if the kernel makes a difference
[07:48] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: I am using an LTS, I am using 12.04 LTS and It is an old computer an Acer Aspire One it is the same problem I keep having and the only problem with this laptop...that each kernel upgrade and cedarview graphics do not get along
[07:49] <aki2389> love12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Squid
[07:49] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: What OS is the laptop running?
[07:50] <Psil0Cybin> going to Additional drivers cfhowlett shows that Cedar Trail drm driver can be selected but sleecting it states Sorry, installation of this driver failed.Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[07:50] <Psil0Cybin> i will paste my log
[07:50] <Evilmax> if i set ufw to reject by default outside connection
[07:50] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: windows 8.1
[07:50] <Evilmax> can i do an exception?
[07:51] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, exceeds my tech-fu to help with sorry.
[07:51] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Do you know how to look up the following information for your laptop? IP address, subnet mask, default route (AKA gateway), primary and secondary DNS addresses
[07:51] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: well perhaps if anyone else can help here is the paste to my jockey log
[07:51] <Psil0Cybin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6958711/
[07:51] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: (I haven't used Windows 8 nor 8.1. I'm completely lost for those systems. :p )
[07:52] <Chisholm> yea it sucks
[07:52] <Chisholm> as to why im switching
[07:53] <ggreer> my laptop came with windows 8. it was my first time using windows since XP. I had no idea windows had gotten that bad
[07:54] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: I have a guess as to what's wrong. Network switches aren't like routers. With a switch, you have to specify a computer at an IP address to be your gateway to the rest of the world. For routers, it's just a simple plug-n-play. Dunno about switches.
[07:55] <Evilmax> ufw allow out to 131.121.13.162/80 from 127.0.0.1
[07:55] <Evilmax> what wrong?
[07:55] <ggreer> if someone took the NT kernel and stuck a bunch of gnu or bsd userland tools on top of it, you could end up with a pretty decent system. it'd be able to run photoshop and visual studio and compile memcached and nmap. all the apps you want without any VMs
[07:55] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: so unplug and pick a different outlet?
[07:55] <Shed-34046> Why can't i close the flash plugin settings dialog when i right click and click settings?
[07:56] <love12> aki2389: i can't copy all of the configuration at the same time is tehre any other mechanisim
[07:56] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: If you have a router somewhere in the house, it'd be easy to just plug your computer into the router instead of the switch.
[07:57] <Chisholm> ill do that wquick
[07:57] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: If there's no router... then I guess we'll have to find the machine that acts as your gateway to the rest of the Internet.
[07:57] <Shed-34046> Is it because its a old flash player version?
[07:57] <Chisholm> na got a router
[07:58] <Chisholm> herpderphurr: no dice
[07:58] <Chisholm> still down
[07:58] <Chisholm> just faser at saying no connection haha
[07:59] <TJ-> Chisholm: I missed some of the earlier info; which Ubuntu version is it?
[07:59] <Chisholm> 13.10 i think the newest
[07:59] <Chisholm> should i reinstall on 12?
[08:00] <TJ-> Chisholm: OK, and you installed the Desktop edition ... with GUI ?
[08:00] <TJ-> Chisholm: No... I'm sure we can identify the issue
[08:00] <Gr1> Hi everyone
[08:00] <Chisholm> tj: that i dunt get sorr yhaha
[08:00] <Gr1> I am trying to make a deb package
[08:01] <cfhowlett> !packaging
[08:01] <Gr1> Is there any way I can retain the permissions of the files deployed by that package to some specific user?
[08:01] <Chisholm> tj: i installed ubuntu v 13.10 via burned disk
[08:01] <Gr1> Thanks cfhowlett
[08:01] <TJ-> Chisholm: So, network is managed by Network Manager. You see a network icon in the task-bar, top-right?
[08:01] <Chisholm> here or ubuntu?
[08:01] <TJ-> Chisholm: On Ubuntu!
[08:01] <Chisholm> im on 2 different computers
[08:02] <TJ-> Chisholm: I know :)
[08:02] <Chisholm> haha i figured
[08:02] <Chisholm> i see it
[08:02] <TJ-> Chisholm: If you right-click it, do you see a list of connections... most likely only 1 ... something like "Wired Connection 1" ?
[08:02] <Chisholm> yes
[08:03] <TJ-> Chisholm: OK, that's good, so Network Manager knows about the interface and is managing it, which is what should happen.
[08:04] <TJ-> Chisholm: Does your network's router hand out IP addresses using DHCP?
[08:04] <aki2389> love12: try following the guide I pasted
[08:04] <Chisholm> that makes sense there is just no interenet and the orange light is on on the lan plug in the back of the computer
[08:04] <TJ-> Chisholm: in other words, does you PC get an IP address assigned automatically when you start the PC
[08:05] <herpderphurr> TJ-: Does it matter if it's a network switch?
[08:05] <Chisholm> no my network is Motorola surfboard- Cisco router-TP LInk switch
[08:05] <TJ-> herpderphurr: No, not if its unmanaged
[08:05] <Chisholm> it is unmanaged
[08:05] <herpderphurr> TJ-: Neat. I'm learning things too
[08:05] <Chisholm> at least the top link is
[08:05] <TJ-> Chisholm: But that switch is connected to a router that connects to your ISP, correct?
[08:05] <Chisholm> yes
[08:06] <Chisholm> i have unplugged everything except the switch and plugged it back in also
[08:06] <TJ-> Chisholm: So the router will likely be operating a DHCP server to hand out IP addresses on your LAN ... like to your Windows PC
[08:06] <love12> aki2389: i have already follow the instruction when i  installed but nothing is change
[08:06] <aki2389> followed it to the letter?
[08:06] <krababbel> Chisholm: The light on the port is orange? There is probably no link there then. Faulty or wrong cable or disabled interface.
[08:06] <Chisholm> right thats what i am thinking
[08:06] <krababbel> Usually it is green
[08:07] <Chisholm> i plug the wire into this laoptop it works fine
[08:07] <TJ-> Chisholm: At a terminal on the Ubuntu PC, do "ethtool eth0"
[08:07] <krababbel> Chisholm: 'ip link' in terminal tells you if your eth0 is up
[08:07] <ggreer> krababbel: for most of my gear, orange means gigabit
[08:07] <Chisholm> ok got a whole bunch'
[08:07] <ggreer> green means 100mbit
[08:07] <TJ-> Chisholm: Compare the output you see on your Ubuntu PC, to this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6958771/
[08:08] <ggreer> well, two green is 100mbit, and one green is 10mbit (but that never happens)
[08:08] <krababbel> ggreer: hm, my intel nic is green with gigabit
[08:08] <ggreer> ah neat
[08:08] <TJ-> Chisholm: especially, compare the lines "Speed" "Duplex"
[08:08] <krababbel> but yes, command line will tell also, if link is up
[08:08] <ggreer> I have some ridiculous asus board that glows red, so it's totally believable that my nic lights are non-standard
[08:08] <Chisholm> ok sorta simpler but a couple differences
[08:09] <TJ-> Chisholm: Can you describe the differences accurately for us?
[08:09] <Chisholm> ggreer: min is a gigabyte running a fx 8 core
[08:09] <Chisholm> yes give me a sec
[08:10] <ggreer> model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
[08:10] <ggreer> aww yeah
[08:10] <Chisholm> supported port: is tp MII not TP
[08:10] <krababbel> well the manual should state what the lights mean
[08:10] <Chisholm> I have 1000 base in advertised links
[08:10] <Chisholm> advertises auto-negotiations is yes not no
[08:11] <Chisholm> my speed is 1000
[08:11] <Chisholm> i have something called link partner advertised pause and auto negotiate
[08:11] <TJ-> Chisholm: OK, if it shows a speed the link is up, hardware-wise
[08:12] <Chisholm> port is mII not tp
[08:12] <TJ-> Chisholm: So, lets move on to the IP side of things
[08:12] <Chisholm> ok
[08:13] <TJ-> Chisholm: "ifconfig -a A grep '^eth'  " should list all the wired interface names... there should only be "eth0"... run the command, check that and tell us if theres anything different
[08:13] <TJ-> Chisholm: "ifconfig -a | grep '^eth'  " sorry - typo!
[08:13] <aki2389> love12: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6958788/
[08:14] <aki2389> love12: change the ip to your ip
[08:14] <Chisholm> ok what do you need?
[08:14] <Chisholm> i have one line
[08:14] <love12> aki2389: which ip?
[08:14] <ggreer> ./redshift.sh
[08:15] <zalun> I've got strange issue on my laptop - load average 3.12 CPU usage about 2%
[08:15] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: What's it say?
[08:15] <Chisholm> (red) eth0    Link encap: Ethernet  Hwaddr 74:d4:35:5e:c8:f7
[08:15] <aki2389> love12: the one that I have written is 10.0.3.0/24
[08:15] <TJ-> Chisholm: Does it show "eth0" ? OK, good
[08:15] <Chisholm> that means written in red
[08:15] <zalun> Not that it bohers me THAT much, but feels unpleasant
[08:15] <TJ-> Chisholm: don't worry about the colours - they are just to highlight the search term used
[08:15] <TJ-> Chisholm: Now do "ifconfig eth0"
[08:15] <Chisholm> ok gotcha
[08:16] <TJ-> Chisholm: You should see something similar to this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6958791/
[08:17] <TJ-> Chisholm: In particular, we're interested in whether you have a line with "inet addr ...." shown
[08:17] <Chisholm> i ahve inet6
[08:18] <Chisholm> not inet
[08:18] <TJ-> Chisholm: OK, but no "inet addr" that tells us your PC hasn't got an IP address... that could be because it can't see the DHCP server on the router
[08:18] <TJ-> Chisholm: Are both the Ubuntu PC and the Windows PC connected to the switch?
[08:18] <Chisholm> yes no inet
[08:19] <love12> aki2389:  in which Tag is found?
[08:19] <Chisholm> no this pc use to be
[08:19] <Chisholm> now its wifi
[08:19] <Chisholm> just the ubuntu is now
[08:19] <Chisholm> its a desktop
[08:19] <Chisholm> i have an extra wire if needed
[08:19] <TJ-> Chisholm: Aha! OK, so we can't compare like with like. Is the switch connected to the router and the link-light for that port is active?
[08:19] <aki2389> love12: Tag acl for acl, and TAG: http_access for http_access
[08:20] <Chisholm> give me a sec
[08:20] <TJ-> Chisholm: You'll have 2 patch leads connected to the switch, one from the Ubuntu PC, and one from the router, is that correct?
[08:20] <Chisholm> correct and yea my upc is showing green along with an extra 1000mbps light
[08:21] <Chisholm> and i never had that before on this laptop
[08:21] <TJ-> Chisholm: OK, how about the port connected to the router? does that show green too?
[08:21] <sandman13>  but still can't decide whether to run commands on the dualbooted Ubuntu or Virtualized Ubuntu
[08:21] <krababbel> Chisholm: why don't you ping the router?
[08:21] <Chisholm> showing the same double gren
[08:21] <sandman13> i am reading this book: http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php  but still can't decide whether to run commands on the dualbooted Ubuntu or Virtualized Ubuntu
[08:21] <TJ-> krababbel: please don't confuse the matter
[08:21] <johey> I have ran apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade in ubuntu 13.10 but haven't got a single package update for weeks. Is that normal?
[08:22] <johey> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:22] <johey> The apt-get update is successful.
[08:22] <sandman13> johey that's normal
[08:22] <TJ-> Chisholm: That's good. OK ... on the Ubuntu PC do "arp -n" ... this is supposed to list the *hardware* MAC addresses of all network interfaces the Ubuntu PC can 'hear'
[08:22] <creto> Hello there! I am having a little problem while updating my ubuntu. Its ubuntu 10.04 lts. When I run a Terminal and do $ sudo apt-get update     I get "E:the command takes no arguments"  I also did apt-get update as suggested in the forum but I also get an error, I have the output of that too. Can someone help me?
[08:22] <BlueMint> Hi sorry for such a horrid question, but I really did try google many times. I have an SD card with an OS installed on it and would like to back it up, could anyone quickly shoot me the console command?
[08:22] <johey> sandman13: Ok. All packages are perfect? :)
[08:23] <sandman13> if there's an update for the packages you will be notified
[08:23] <Thubo> After an upgrade on 13.10 I can not login via lightdm to my user. It just throws me back to the greeter. login via terminal works fine....any ideas?
[08:23] <Beldar> johey, what release?
[08:23] <johey> Beldar: 13.10.
[08:23] <TJ-> Chisholm: This is the kind of output you'd expect to see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6958806/
[08:23] <Beldar> creto, This 10.04 desktop?
[08:23] <creto> yes Beldar
[08:23] <Chisholm> tj- i am blank
[08:23] <Beldar> !eol | creto
[08:24] <Chisholm> tj-: i just get a new command line with nothing
[08:24] <johey> sandman13: I have disabled automatic notifications and updates (at least tried to). I like to do that manually.
[08:24] <TJ-> Chisholm: OK, that means there is no physical link from the Ubuntu PC to the router ... Are you able to wire the Ubuntu PC directly into the router, bypassing the switch?
[08:24] <sandman13> in that case i have no idea johey
[08:24] <Chisholm> tj-: yes
[08:24] <Chisholm> i did that before still no luck
[08:25] <Chisholm> well at least typing in google on mozilla
[08:25] <TJ-> Chisholm: OK, good
[08:25] <Thubo> ...guest user works btw.
[08:25] <love12> aki2389:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6958817/
[08:25] <SirLagz> Thubo: removed .Xauthority and .ICEauthority ?
[08:25] <SirLagz> Thubo: I had the same issue today....
[08:26] <TJ-> Chisholm: Do you know the IP address that your Windows PC has been allocated, so we can figure out the subnet allocated to your LAN?
[08:26] <creto> Thx Beldar , I am on the read! I tried the forums but I will try that, just one question does this update me to  ubuntu 13 or just updates my version with some packages?
[08:26] <Chisholm> i can ip config it will it still be ok wifi?
[08:26] <Chisholm> or you want me to hard wire?
[08:27] <TJ-> Chisholm: No, just as it is now, it's just the info we need for the next step of trying to manually configure the Ubuntu CP
[08:27] <Thubo> SirLagz, should have known myself - worked like a charm. Thanks :))
[08:27] <Beldar> creto, 10.04 is a long term if upgraded correctly it should go to 12.04, back it up, and be sure you do a eol upgrade.
[08:27] <SirLagz> Thubo: no problems :)
[08:27] <Chisholm> tj-: ok i got it what r u looking for?
[08:27] <SirLagz> Thubo: at least your issue was easy to fix :D
[08:28] <zetheroo> is there a way to stop jbd2 from running on certain disks?
[08:28] <TJ-> Chisholm: The IP address of the Windows PC, and the gateway address
[08:28] <Thubo> indeed xD
[08:28] <Chisholm> ok ipv4 192.168.1.129
[08:28] <TJ-> Chisholm: As an aside - what is the make and model of your Internet router?
[08:29] <Chisholm> and the default gateway is long and then 192.168.1.1
[08:29] <creto> Thanks Beldar . Is it not possible to fix this problem without changing from 10.04 to 12.04 ? Because I am running this version as it "light" . I am on a mini laptop.
[08:30] <Chisholm> motaroloa surfbuard 6490 i think - cisco - tp link 24 port switch
[08:30] <Beldar> creto, 10.04 is not supported nor does it have access to the ubuntu repos.
[08:30] <TJ-> Chisholm: On the Ubuntu PC let's stop Network Manager so we can manually configure the interface: "sudo stop network-manager"
[08:31] <Chisholm> linksys cisco e4200
[08:31] <Chisholm> ok
[08:31] <creto> I see. Ok I will upgrate then Beldar . Thanks
[08:31] <Chisholm> i disconnected
[08:31] <Chisholm> its not blinking anymore
[08:33] <Beldar> creto, I'm not sure on the error "E:the command takes no arguments" I'm assuming it is lack of repo sync.
[08:33] <TJ-> Chisholm: OK: "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.11 netmask 255.255.255.0"
[08:33] <Chisholm> tj-: i did tell you the ethernet is not the only thing not working right? just wanted
[08:34] <Chisholm> ok
[08:34] <TJ-> Chisholm: Yes... one thing at a time :)
[08:34] <Chisholm> type that excatly?
[08:34] <Chisholm> starting with sudo
[08:34] <TJ-> Chisholm: If we can get it on the 'net, you can update and diagnose more efficiently
[08:34] <TJ-> Chisholm: Everything inside quote marks is commands you should type verbatim
[08:35] <Chisholm> its asking me for a password
[08:35] <Chisholm> but its not letting me type
[08:36] <Chisholm> o jesus
[08:36] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: Don't worry. you won't see anything when you type the password
[08:36] <Chisholm> i types in my password and alot jsut came up
[08:36] <Juju_> Does someone how to use GeoEnZo with Wine???
[08:36] <TJ-> When you type your password the characters aren't echoed
[08:36] <herpderphurr> Chisholm: That's by design. The user doesn't need to know how long their own password is. :p
[08:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys I have a small problem, I got a 128GB SSD and a 750GB Caddy that I mounted on 13.10, now it complains that I do not have enough space left as I start filling the Caddy with data, what can I do to have a direct link to the caddy yet for it not to be mounted so it takes up space of the actual drive? :(
[08:37] <TJ-> Chisholm: "alot came up". You mean response to that command? Any suggestion of errors or warnings?
[08:37] <love12> aki2389:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6958817/
[08:38] <Chisholm> yea about 60 lines
[08:38] <Chisholm> i ahve no idea one sec
[08:38] <TJ-> Chisholm: Well, 60 lines isn't definitely not right... I'd expect at most about 5!
[08:39] <krilcovsseann> Regarding Oracle VM, after I install ubuntu.. can I save my progress so it will just load up next time and allowing me to skip the install?
[08:39] <Chisholm> let me type again
[08:39] <TJ-> herpderphurr: Are you running 13.10 the same as Chisholm ?
[08:39] <herpderphurr> TJ-: Nope. I'm on 12.04
[08:39] <aki2389> love12: you didn't change anything?
[08:39] <aki2389> love12: whats your ip?
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> sdg
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> hjk
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> tguol
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> hiopy89
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> gyo790
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> g809679ñ
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> 87kir05ç
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> thl
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> kt
[08:40] <herpderphurr> !ops
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> to65
[08:40] <DJones> pojisdfgpojksdf: Please stop that
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> 6ik6
[08:40] <Chisholm> ok blank line
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> 0w
[08:40] <pojisdfgpojksdf> 603+'
[08:40] <TJ-> herpderphurr: Darn! Is anyone here running 13.10 and can do "uname -m && md5sum $(which ifconfig)"
[08:40]  * TJ- is running 14.04 :)
[08:40] <love12> aki2389:  10.128.60.133
[08:41] <TJ-> Chisholm: Blank line, that usually means success!
[08:41] <krilcovsseann> Can anyone direct me to a question regarding Virtual box?
[08:41] <Chisholm> tj-: yea there is nothing there
[08:41] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: You are running Ubuntu in a vm?
[08:41] <TJ-> Chisholm: Now check the settings with "ifconfig eth0" and tell us if there's a line with "inet addr: 192.168.1.11"
[08:42] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: You can save the machine, sure.
[08:42] <krilcovsseann> do I save it before I power down? krababbel? I just lost 6 hours of install time..
[08:42] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: save instead of power down.
[08:42] <Chisholm> yup i got one now!!
[08:43] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: power down is probably like pulling teh power plug
[08:43] <krilcovsseann> Krababbel: Thanks.
[08:43] <aki2389> love12: you have that as your config and it's still not working?
[08:43] <aki2389> last resort... try restarting
[08:43] <aki2389> the whole computer
[08:43] <love12> aki2389:  yes
[08:43] <krilcovsseann> Krababbel: How much of a hardrive space should I allocate towards it? 8gb? and ram. 512mb?
[08:43] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: np, if you need to, you can shut down the VM.
[08:43] <TJ-> Chisholm: OK, try pinging the router: "ping -nc 5 192.168.1.1"
[08:44] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: the minimum would be 4GB and probably 384 or 256 RAM, but it depends on what you install
[08:44] <Chisholm> tj-: 4 lines of what looks like gibberish came up
[08:44] <finnigan> i want to compile a program with ./config and terminal tells me error: you need libxtst but i already have it
[08:44] <Chisholm> starting with usage: ping
[08:44] <TJ-> Chisholm: lots of numbers?
[08:44] <krilcovsseann> i cannot shut it down, because the guest does?
[08:44] <finnigan> please help
[08:45] <Chisholm> no words
[08:45] <TJ-> Chisholm: "destination unreachable" ?
[08:45] <krilcovsseann> krababbel: the guest does not support software shutdown.
[08:45] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: Ubuntu nowadays has built in drivers, so when you click shutdown in oracle vm, it gets a signal
[08:45] <Chisholm> no the word destination is there but not unreachable
[08:45] <Chisholm> should i turn the connection mamager back on or no
[08:45] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: strange, do you use a recent version of Ubuntu?
[08:45] <krilcovsseann> Krababbel: its a linux os.
[08:46] <krilcovsseann> O_o
[08:46] <cast> is ifconfig deprecated yet? [am pondering ifconfig eth0 vs ip addr show dev eth0]
[08:46] <sandman13> what is the difference between shell scripting and terminal commands
[08:46] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: I mean the virtual machine, you install Ubuntu 13.10 or what?
[08:46] <Chisholm> [m- mark] [c- count] [i- inteval] and so on its showing
[08:46] <TJ-> Chisholm: Don't change anything
[08:46] <Chisholm> ok
[08:47] <krababbel> cast: As far as I know yes, ip is the new command
[08:47] <krilcovsseann> kali-linux-1.0.6-amd64
[08:47] <TJ-> Chisholm: Sounds like the help information... this is what you would see for a good response and a bad response (there's two example pings) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6958873/
[08:47] <love12> aki2389:  yes it is not working
[08:47] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: then that linux lacks the drivers, it will be a bit slower than it could be, and no shutdown from outside, yes.
[08:47] <krilcovsseann> I spent the last four hours trying to figure this out: Krababbel. Atleast I know it works for Ubuntu. What is the process called when you save your VM?
[08:48] <TJ-> Chisholm: OK, try again, make sure you typed the command correctly - I suspect you missed the "5": "ping -nc    5    192.168.1.1"
[08:48] <krilcovsseann> Krababbel: thanks, I think I can get the drivers..
[08:48] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: sorry, I haven't used oracle vm in a long time, probably 'save state'
[08:48] <Chisholm> nope should i ifconfig again?
[08:49] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: try the drivers, they will also keep the vm's clock in sync with the host
[08:49] <TJ-> Chisholm: No. We need to get the 'ping' command working... if you're seeing the help messages, then you typed something incorrectly
[08:50] <herpderphurr> TJ-, Chisholm: I think the command is "ping -c 5 192.168.1.1" (-nc is a non-existent option according to the man pages)
[08:50] <Serj> hey
[08:50] <Chisholm> ok got it it says network unreachable
[08:51] <TJ-> herpderphurr: No, it's "-nc 5" ... the "-n" means don't try to resolve names from IP addresses
[08:51] <TJ-> Chisholm: Great
[08:51] <herpderphurr> TJ-: Ah. I missed that. Sorry
[08:51] <TJ-> Chisholm: Let's check the routing table: "ip route ls"
[08:52] <krilcovsseann> Krabbabel: Rusty on vm: No idea where to start or do I remember why drivers are an issue. I'll see where this goes. thanks.
[08:52] <TJ-> Chisholm: We just need to ensure you have a line looking somewhat like this: "192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.1.11 metric 1"
[08:53] <Chisholm> hang on i think i fucked up earlier
[08:53] <TJ-> Chisholm: you need to be more specific
[08:54] <Chisholm> ok its pinging
[08:54] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: np, installing the drivers could be tricky, many distros have it built in these days
[08:54] <Chisholm> i got 5 mines
[08:54] <Chisholm> lines
[08:54] <TJ-> Chisholm: You're getting a response?
[08:54] <TJ-> Chisholm: The lines read something like "64 bytes from ..."
[08:54] <Chisholm> yes i started over and i didnt sudo end network manager before my bad
[08:54] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: but saving the state should work without drivers anyway
[08:55] <Chisholm> ping 192.168.1.1 (again) 56 (84) bytes of data
[08:55] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: you'd have to watch the clock in the vm for example, but still
[08:55] <TJ-> Chisholm: Ahhh, so Network-Manager would retake the interface from us
[08:55] <Chisholm> then i get 5 lines of destination host unreachable
[08:56] <ikonia> use the network manager interface / gui to set an ip address
[08:56] <ikonia> that's what it's there for
[08:57] <TJ-> Chisholm: Ahhh, OK, so we're no better off! That is pointing to the fact that either 1) the router (E4200 ) isn't handing IP addresses, or 2) one of the patch cables is damaged
[08:57] <Chisholm> my xbox is working and my laptop was earlier too
[08:57] <Chisholm> and i maybe bought them a month ago and havent touched them since
[08:58] <TJ-> Chisholm: The physical links are up, as detected by the switch, but traffic isn't passing. I've seen that before when either the transmit or receive pairs in the patch cables are damaged.
[08:58] <bjorn96> hi
[08:58] <TJ-> Chisholm: do you have any alternative known-good ethernet patch cables you can swap in ?
[08:59] <bjorn96> can someone help me?? :D
[08:59] <ikonia> as that would be a known good cable
[08:59] <ikonia> unplug the xbox if thats working
[08:59] <krilcovsseann> Krabbabel: last question... how do I save state?
[08:59] <krilcovsseann> !save state
[08:59] <TJ-> Chisholm: If the cables can be proven good then the next thing to consider is that the new motherboard's ethernet port is faulty
[08:59] <Chisholm> i ahve a good cable right here a patch or just network one
[09:00] <Chisholm> that would make me mad
[09:00] <krababbel> krilcovsseann: The oracle manual should tell you that, or ask in #virtualbox?
[09:00] <TJ-> Chisholm: network cables are patch cables... different words
[09:00] <bjorn96> anyone?
[09:00] <krilcovsseann> thanks
[09:00] <Chisholm> gotcha
[09:00] <Chisholm> cables good
[09:00] <Chisholm> its plugged into the laptop right now
[09:01] <Chisholm> it was up instantly
[09:01] <TJ-> Chisholm: Looking like a motherboard issue then
[09:01] <Chisholm> awesome
[09:01] <bjorn96> help?
[09:01] <Chisholm> that would explain the usb ports and all im guessing right?
[09:02] <TJ-> Chisholm: I think you've got a dud
[09:02] <ikonia> installing a supported OS such as a Windows one would confirm this
[09:02] <Chisholm> and def cant be a driver issue?
[09:02] <Chisholm> ok i will do that now then
[09:03] <ikonia> Chisholm: it could be a driver problem, thats why installing a supported OS would prove sucess/failure on the hardware
[09:03] <Chisholm> ok is there a way for me to get windows without pay 6 million dollars just to test this out
[09:03] <ikonia> Chisholm: don't be silly, Windows is cost effective,
[09:04] <Chisholm> haha i know i just dont wanna spend anymore money on an os interface i do not like
[09:04] <love12> aki2389:   you tehere?
[09:04] <Chisholm> oh and real quick before i go
[09:04] <ikonia> Chisholm: then you should have spent time before buying a motherboard that may/may not support linux, to check it DOES support linux
[09:04] <Chisholm> if it is a driver issue
[09:05] <Chisholm> what how do  i check my kernal version
[09:05] <ikonia> Chisholm: you've already pasted your kernel version
[09:05] <TJ-> Chisholm: hold fire! I may have something
[09:05] <Chisholm>  and how would i run the the driver packages
[09:05] <ikonia> Chisholm: I've told you 3 times - you don't, they are for windows
[09:05] <Chisholm> yea i forgot how to do it already
[09:06] <macpool> good morning
[09:06] <TJ-> Chisholm: Listen carefully. Reboot the Ubuntu PC. Enter the BIOS Setup. find the option "IOMMU" and *enable* it. Reboot.
[09:06] <Chisholm> ok one sec
[09:06] <evilfix> anyone know if a chrubuntu install can boot a usb live linux distro?
[09:06] <ikonia> TJ-: that's interesting, that wouldn't stop a dhcp request being sent though
[09:07] <ikonia> evilfix: chrubuntu is nothing to do with this channel.
[09:07] <TJ-> ikonia: yes it would.
[09:07] <Chisholm> ok tj-: where am i looking here
[09:07] <herpderphurr> TJ-: Whoa, an IOMMU. how often would consumer-grade mobo's have those?
[09:08] <ikonia> TJ-: why ?
[09:08] <TJ-> Chisholm: I'm not sure, you'll have to search around
[09:08] <Chisholm> got it
[09:08] <ws2k3_> Hello is ﻿Areca 1880i support in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[09:08] <ikonia> TJ-: sort him out, then explain to me, sorry to interupt
[09:08] <ws2k3_> raid controller
[09:08] <TJ-> Chisholm: Is it enabled now?
[09:08] <Chisholm> yes
[09:08] <TJ-> Chisholm: Or I should say, was it already enabled?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3_: what chip does it use?
[09:08] <Chisholm> no it wasnt
[09:09] <Chisholm> now reboot? any chance i can fix the usb 2.0 problem here haha
[09:09] <TJ-> Chisholm: Great! OK. Save the BIOS settings and reboot. I think you'll find both network and USB2 works
[09:09] <ws2k3_> how can i findout which chip it uses
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3_: do you own the device?
[09:09] <Chisholm> rgr that
[09:09] <ws2k3_> yes
[09:10] <TJ-> ikonia: Because the net and usb devices use iomem to move data under interrupt. Without the iommu there's no interrupts being serviced.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3_: then run:  lspci   to see the chip
[09:10] <Chisholm> hoyl shit
[09:10] <ikonia> TJ-: interesting, I'm watching with interest
[09:10] <ikonia> Chisholm: no need for the language
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3_: you need to drive the chip, who makes the card or anything like that is irrelevant, you are driving the chip on the card
[09:11] <Shed-34046> help help
[09:11] <Chisholm> sorry i cant believe that worked
[09:11] <TJ-> Chisholm: Sorted?
[09:11] <ikonia> TJ-: big kudos, great spot
[09:11] <ws2k3_> lscpi shwos me : ﻿04:00.0 RAID bus controller: Areca Technology Corp. Device 1880
[09:11] <Chisholm> one sec tho now my usb 3.0 are down
[09:11] <Shed-34046> I think my computer is about to shut off from over heating
[09:11] <ikonia> Shed-34046: that's not really helpful is it, that's like me saying "fix fix"
[09:11] <TJ-> ikonia: Always forget to check the obvious, lowest-level things! I kept on about wiring but didn't step up one!
[09:11] <ikonia> Shed-34046: shut it down then
[09:11] <TJ-> Chisholm: You can't have everything :)
[09:11] <Shed-34046> ikonia but the fans should cool it down though
[09:12] <Shed-34046> It did on windows 7
[09:12] <Chisholm> shahahaha
[09:12] <ikonia> Shed-34046: right, but it's not, and if it's overheating, shut it down to cool it off
[09:12] <Chisholm> ok and im getting an ubuntu has experienced and internal failure
[09:12] <TJ-> Chisholm: ignore those, just dismiss them
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3_: https://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins
[09:13] <visva51> Hi. I use IMAP with thunderbird, If I delete a mail in webmail, will it also delete the mail in thunderbird when it reconnects to server?
[09:13] <Chisholm> ok gotcha, yea the usb 2.0's work so does the internet, just the 3.0's are down
[09:13] <TJ-> Chisholm: the OS gathers up 'crash' reports and then later asks you if you want to submit them as bug reports... there will be a few from the last few hours
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3_: seems to use the arcmsr module
[09:13] <TJ-> Chisholm: Great! with internet you can do some updates immediately now: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:13] <llutz> visva51: if you havent copied that mail to local archives, yes. thats how imap works
[09:14] <Chisholm> its off and going thanks tj
[09:14] <ws2k3_> ActionParsnip its a sas controller so i dont think so
[09:15] <Chisholm> I really appreciate the help
[09:15] <TJ-> Chisholm: OK... once that is done, it'll likely want to reboot. After that, we'll investigate the USB3 issue
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3_: the controller is named on that page:  PCI: 17D3:1880 Areca Technology Corp. ARC-1880 8/12 port PCIe/PCI-X to SAS/SATA II RAID Controller
[09:15] <Chisholm> ok cool
[09:16]  * TJ- goes to pour another coffee
[09:16] <Chisholm> if possible can i contact you later here?
[09:16] <ws2k3_> ActionParsnip so this means it is supported ?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3_: and is said to use the arcmsr module as you can see from the page I linked. Did you even read the page I posted?
[09:16] <Chisholm> I ahve to go to bed should have 5 hours ago hahaha
[09:16] <visva51> llutz: Thank you.
[09:16] <ws2k3_> yes i did read the page
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3_: then please reread, note the text I _copied_ from the same page....
[09:18] <ws2k3_> ActionParsnip thanks
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3_: so where and how did you come up with "09:14 < ws2k3_> ActionParsnip its a sas controller so i dont think so
[09:20] <ws2k3_> ActionParsnip yeah i was wrong there
[09:20] <Chisholm> tj-: ok it finished but didnt ask to reboot, but im guessing o should
[09:20] <ws2k3_> ActionParsnip but i'm still not sure it shows it support but everywher eon internet i read that people have preformance issues
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3_: doesnt mean its not supported, the disks will be accessible that you connect to the controller
[09:21] <TJ-> Chisholm: No, that's fine
[09:21] <Chisholm> ok
[09:21] <Chisholm> should i try a 3.0 port?
[09:21] <TJ-> Chisholm: It'd only reboot if something like the kernel version was upgraded
[09:22] <TJ-> Chisholm: Yeah, go for it!
[09:22] <TJ-> Chisholm: Before you plug anything in though...
[09:22] <Chisholm> ok
[09:22] <TJ-> Chisholm: In a terminal do "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log" ... then watch the messages when you plug a device in... you will see device recognition messages if things are OK
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3_: "slow" doesnt mean it's not supported
[09:23] <bjorn96> can i get some help?
[09:23] <TJ-> Chisholm: When you want to stop that log tail, press Ctrl+C
[09:23] <herpderphurr> bjorn96: I don't see why you shouldn't get help.
[09:24] <bjorn96> ok, how do i install a program from .tar.gz? :D
[09:24] <TJ-> bjorn96: You try not to!
[09:25] <Chisholm> itokits telling me try tail -- help for more info
[09:25] <Chisholm> its*
[09:25] <bjorn96> but i cannot find the program in store...
[09:25] <herpderphurr> bjorn96: which program specifically?
[09:25] <bjorn96> free file sunc
[09:25] <TJ-> Chisholm: typo again, then!
[09:25] <bjorn96> sync
[09:26] <bjorn96> ?
[09:26] <TJ-> bjorn96: When you install programs from outside the Debian/Ubuntu package management system you run a real risk of messing up the system in unpredictable ways.
[09:26] <Chisholm> hmm
[09:27] <bjorn96> it is a good program, i have used it for a long time on windows. :D
[09:27] <TJ-> bjorn96: Because Ubuntu is popular, usually you can find someone has packaged a program as a Debian archive (.deb) file, possibly in the Launchpad PPAs (Personal Package Archives), even when the program/version isn't in the official archives
[09:28] <Chisholm> now its saying invalid option /
[09:28] <TJ-> bjorn96: don't try to bring Windows programs to Linux, use the native tools, they are often much more powerful... You just need to spend a little time familiarising yourself with the alternatives
[09:28] <TJ-> Chisholm: "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log"
[09:29] <krababbel> bjorn96: maybe try rsync or a GUI version of it
[09:29] <TJ-> Chisholm: CaSe Is SiGnIfIcAnT
[09:29] <bjorn96> see http://www.fosshub.com/FreeFileSync.html
[09:29] <krababbel> bjorn96: I use it myself on windows :)
[09:30] <Chisholm> ok i missed the space after the f
[09:30] <bjorn96> and its fine cus i have the sync file un the usb
[09:30] <bjorn96> be right back. :D
[09:30] <herpderphurr> bjorn96: I use rsync to sync my directories, but if you're absolutely stuck on using FreeFileSync, perhaps try adding the PPA for it: https://launchpad.net/~freefilesync/+archive/ffs
[09:31] <Chisholm> i got a whole bunch of stuff, then i plugged something in and got nothing
[09:32] <TJ-> Chisholm: when you start tail it will show the previous 10 or so lines from the log-file, then it will (-f)ollow the log-file as new entries are added. If no new lines appeared that confirms there is an issue with the USB3 drivers
[09:32] <adamshsiasd> Is anyone there_
[09:33] <TJ-> Chisholm: You can stop the tail now by pressing Ctrl+C
[09:33] <Chisholm> ok its stopped
[09:33] <TheHackOps> evening
[09:34] <TJ-> Chisholm: Now the Ubuntu PC is connected to the net, I need you to send some configuration reports to pastebin using the following command "lspci -knn | pastebinit" - tell me the URL it provides
[09:34] <adamshsiasd> So i have issues with starting my computer. I think alot of the files in my root are messed up. How, i dont know. in my boot.log: apache2: config test failed: mktemp failed tp create directory via template.
[09:34] <TJ-> Chisholm: The "|" between the 2 commands is the Vertical Bar symbol
[09:34] <adamshsiasd> I get swtiched over to a tty1
[09:34] <Chisholm> easdy enough
[09:35] <bjorn96> umm, is there no way to install it "easy"?
[09:35] <Chisholm> i dont have it
[09:35] <adamshsiasd> When i try to update & upgrade i get theese banal packages like bash coreutils etc. Which i already should have
[09:36] <krababbel> bjorn96: PPA is easiest if it is not in official repo. And prey the PPA maintainer doesn't kill your install.
[09:36] <Chisholm> its telling me to get install
[09:36] <TJ-> Chisholm: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[09:36] <Chisholm> got it
[09:36] <krababbel> bjorn96: Or take the tar.gz and read the intall manual, if it is good. If it is a small program, it could be doable.
[09:37] <TJ-> Chisholm: then redo the previous command so we can get the lspci info
[09:37] <adamshsiasd> Is there someone out there that might be able to help?
[09:37] <krababbel> bjorn96: Linux works differently for installations.
[09:37] <TJ-> adamshsiasd: There's nothing 'banal' about coreutils and bash!
[09:38] <Chisholm> paste.ubuntu.com/6959037
[09:38] <adamshsiasd> No, thats not what i meant. I meant that i already should have them installed.
[09:38] <TJ-> Chisholm: OK... did I see you say you wanted to get to bed?
[09:38] <Chisholm> yea i have 40 minutes to sleep
[09:39] <Chisholm> ill keep this up tho and beback around 3pm est
[09:39] <TJ-> adamshsiasd: Yes, they will be. But you've just done an upgrade so new versions with bug-fixes might be available
[09:39] <TJ-> Chisholm: Well why don't you take a break now and call us in the channel again when you're rested, you've solved the hardest part :)
[09:40] <Chisholm> sounds good ty guys soon thanks for the help its appreciated !!
[09:40] <TJ-> Chisholm: I already know whats up with your USB3 - there isn't a driver for "02:00.0 USB controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. Device [1106:3483] (rev 01)"
[09:40] <adamshsiasd> Ok. really thanks for your reply!!! When i try to update them i get dpkg failured debconf version is debconf installed?
[09:40] <bjorn96> oka, idk about free file sync
[09:40] <TJ-> Chisholm: I'll do some digging into that and leave you a MEMO via memoserv on here if there's a fix
[09:41] <adamshsiasd> TJ: and when i try to install debconf i get debconf error
[09:41] <adamshsiasd> TJ: unable to create new file /var/lib/dpkg/info/format-new
[09:42] <adamshsiasd> I'm been very amateurly working with linux for a year now. Never had this problem
[09:43] <TJ-> adamshsiasd: That looks like the file-system may have been corrupted, have you had any unclean shutdowns/crashes recently?
[09:44] <fish_> hi
[09:45] <aki2389> hi fish_
[09:45] <adamshsiasd> No, not what i can recall. I'm running 14.04. I've had low harddrive space, but not anymore removed my mongodb and all was good. The last thing major i did was moving my /home/ to a different parptition
[09:45] <fish_> I want to configure /etc/network/interfaces to bring up a macvlan interface and bind a IP to that instead of configuring eth0 - is that supported somehow or do I need to fiddle around with post-up scripts?
[09:46] <xarlii91> hello
[09:46] <xarlii91> do u want cibersex?
[09:46] <DJones> xarlii91: No
[09:46] <xarlii91> why?? =(
[09:47] <aki2389> wait seriously... that just happened?
[09:47] <TJ-> adamshsiasd: Support for 14.04 is in #ubuntu+1 ... but as you're running the development version breakage is expected, usually the archives clean themselves up, but you should search the bug reports for your symptoms and if not already reported, file a report.
[09:48] <aki2389> love12: sorry, I died lol
[09:49] <adamshsiasd> Tj-:Thanks for the help! Really appricieate the help!
[09:50] <zetheroo> is there a way to stop jbd2 from running on certain disks?
[09:50] <xarlii91> holaaa
[09:50] <trivi> charlie 91
[09:50] <pumuky> hola
[09:50] <xarlii91> hola profeee
[09:50] <pumuky> soy pumuky
[09:50] <madrid> ola
[09:50] <trivi> vendo pentium 4 1,8 ghz 512 MB
[09:51] <xarlii91> me lo quedo
[09:51] <xarlii91> 5€
[09:51] <madrid> si
[09:51] <trivi> qno
[09:51] <trivi> q es sexo lo qvendo
[09:55] <bjorn96> but how do i add a rizon account to empathy? :D
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> adamshsiasd: #ubuntu+1 for Trusty support
[09:59] <adamshsiasd> ActionParsnip: Yeah, i posted there but it's completley silent.
[09:59] <adamshsiasd> Thank for the tip
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> adamshsiasd: that's pretty normal but doesnt mean its supported here
[10:00] <zetheroo> when accessing samba shares via Nautilus in Ubuntu I am being asked for my sudo password - is there a way to stop this?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: are you sure its not thesamba  password on the server to authenticate?
[10:01] <jdm> i have a quick question
[10:01] <adamshsiasd> Ok. Another question: if fsck says everything ok. But the file system is obviousley funky. Where to go about?
[10:01] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: it's not ... first I am asked for my sudo password, and then after that comes the request for the share credentials
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:02] <bjorn96> ned help again
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: what is the output of:  groups
[10:03] <Rory> !ask | bjorn96 jdm
[10:03] <jdm>  have about 30gb of free hd space and i want to install ubuntu and slowly convert the ntfs partition over to linux, is that possible?
[10:03] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6959146/
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> jdm: sounds fine, you can resize ntfs in WIndows and resize the ext4 in ubuntu livecd as you need
[10:04] <bjorn96> ok, how do i add a rizon account to empathy? :D
[10:04] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: I also noticed that after samba was installed there is this new "Samba guest account" created ... but it's disabled ... is that supposed to be enabled!?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: looks fine to me from your paste
[10:04] <zetheroo> strange
[10:05] <timmcvveigh> anyone know where I can find a wii sdk distro...ie revolution sdk
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> bjorn96: rizon is just an IRC network
[10:05] <timmcvveigh> there are no valid torrents
[10:05] <timmcvveigh> nor can I find a valid link
[10:05] <timmcvveigh> really I only need ntcompress.exe
[10:05] <timmcvveigh> I appreciate any response at this point
[10:05] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: I cannot even mount samba shares via fstab or in the terminal ... the only way is via nautilus ...
[10:05] <zetheroo> and nobody seems to have a clue why ..
[10:05] <timmcvveigh> Figured that linux experts are so smart they might have some insight
[10:07] <timmcvveigh> anyone know anything about wii sdks
[10:08] <ikonia> not sure how that is related to ubuntu ?
[10:08] <Wiz_KeeD> guys my ubuntu machine froze and I cannot do anything thought the screen is moving
[10:08] <timmcvveigh> where can I get ntcompress.exe or even a linux versus to uncompress .lh extensions
[10:08] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i...ctrl+alt+delete?
[10:08] <Wiz_KeeD> XD
[10:08] <timmcvveigh> power cycle
[10:08] <philstar> anyone know if it's decided which branches of Trusty will be LTS? I'm hoping there's a MATE variant supported...
[10:08] <ikonia> philstar: I believe it's only the official ubuntu desktop
[10:08] <ikonia> the core os is LTS,
[10:09] <jdm> ActionParsnip, which programs in both do the resizing?
[10:09] <philstar> ikonia: so not even kubuntu? that would be sad...
[10:09] <ikonia> kubuntu has been dropped by canonical a while ago
[10:09] <philstar> ah, didn't know, thanks
[10:09] <ikonia> the kubuntu team are still very active though
[10:09] <ikonia> it's just lost official ubuntu sponsorship
[10:09] <philstar> I see
[10:10] <sandman13> what if download fails in the midst of installing a package? will that be automatically removed or we can resume it later?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> jdm: Windows Disk Manager in Windows, and gparted in Ubuntu liveCD
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> philstar: Lubuntu will be LTS
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> philstar: in 14.04
[10:11] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: are you sure, I thought it was only the official unity desktop that got the official LTS statement as a desktop
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: its all over the web dude
[10:11] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: got a link ?
[10:11] <sandman13> Windows Disk Manager is not that good, try EaseUs Partition Manager in case of windows
[10:12] <bjorn96> im now connectet with xchat to rizon and #chat, i want to use empathy, how?? :D
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: julien wrote this to Canonical https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-April/003941.html
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcAQMbDXc7JJdlOr49H_AnA :)
[10:14] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: that email is asking it to be an LTS release, not confirming it's been accepted
[10:14] <ikonia> basically any packages in the core repo should be "LTS" supported
[10:14] <philstar> thanks ActionParsnip - some places also mention Xubuntu, although that may just be a misuse of the LTS label...
[10:15] <bjorn96> ?
[10:16] <philstar> ikonia: so I guess you could try and ride the LTS for the core packages and hope nothing breaks... maybe there could be an LLTS status (Lesser LTS: we won't keep up with the latest but will prevent LTS breakage)
[10:16] <ikonia> philstar: basically it's the core OS that's supported, and the packages in the core repo will all be supported for the LTS duration
[10:16] <philstar> bjorn96: were you asking for a link? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/expect-xubuntu-14-04-lts
[10:16] <michael__> haha
[10:16] <michael__> haha
[10:16] <ikonia> philstar: remember the desktop/server install have different durations
[10:17] <philstar> ikonia: sure, another fault line along which breakage could occur :p
[10:18] <bjorn96> no, i was asking how to add a rizon account to empathy?
[10:18] <philstar> ok can't help you there, sry :)
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=36315
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you'll find it online. Exciting times
[10:20] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: again - I don't see anything there with canonical saying "this is a product we officialy say is an LTS product supported by us"
[10:21] <ikonia> ubuntu.com doesn't link to it either
[10:21] <bjorn96> ok. is there any ubuntu program to run andro apps?
[10:21] <irssi-mike> bjorn96: emulate android from command line
[10:22] <bjorn96> how?
[10:22] <irssi-mike> bjorn96: been a while, android sdk or adb?
[10:22] <irssi-mike> you have to install the apk's via command line
[10:23] <bjorn96> ok, how?
[10:23] <bjorn96> :D
[10:23] <irssi-mike> that's a good question, i don't remember
[10:24] <Rory> #android is a thing
[10:25] <bjorn96> i dont get empathy, how do i open the chat?
[10:25] <bjorn96> file:///home/bjorn_heipt/Skrivebord/Skjermdump%20fra%202014-02-19%2011:25:39.png
[10:26] <k1l> bjorn96: type "/join #android"
[10:27] <Kartagis> can I increase sensitivity of photorec or testdisk?
[10:27] <Kartagis> maybe depth
[10:27] <philstar> bjorn96: FWIW I prefer Pidgin - have you tried that? not sure if it supports your requested protocol, but might be worth a look
[10:29] <benmctee> bjorn96: are you trying to install an apk on your android device from the command line on your computer?
[10:29] <bjorn96> now, im trying to RUN the app on the pc, like bluestacks on windows
[10:30] <irssi-mike> it's gonna be kind of slow, slower than your phone
[10:30] <bjorn96> it works fine in bluestacks
[10:31] <irssi-mike> maybe my hardware stinks
[10:31] <bjorn96> im just looking for software for ubuntu that works like bluestacks
[10:31] <benmctee> bjorn96: do you have the Android SDK installed?
[10:31] <bjorn96> no
[10:31] <bjorn96> tell me, im totally new to ubuntu. :D
[10:32] <benmctee> bjorn96: http://xmodulo.com/2013/03/how-to-run-android-emulator-on-ubuntu-or-debian.html
[10:35] <benmctee> bjorn96: you will first need to install the SDK, Java, etc., and then set up an Android Virtual Device Manager. Once you create the virtual device, you can then open the emulator and load up your app.
[10:35] <bjorn96> wow, a lot of hard work
[10:35] <benmctee> it's not that bad. what's your end goal?
[10:36] <bjorn96> to run my apps inside a program that pretend its a tablet
[10:36] <bjorn96> like bluestacks, no work at all
[10:37] <benmctee> I'm not familiar with bluestacks, or really anything outside of Office products on Windows, sorry. But are you a developer, or you just want to play around?
[10:37] <philstar> benmctee: afaiu, he wants to run Android apps on Linux b/c he can't figure out the native ones
[10:37] <bjorn96> just playing around
[10:38] <bjorn96> (im not even able to install office on ubuntu). :/
[10:38] <k1l> bjorn96: use libreoffice
[10:38] <benmctee> LibreOffice should come preinstalled
[10:39] <k1l> if you need MS office use wine or complain at MS that they dont ship a Linux version
[10:39] <k1l> !wine | bjorn96
[10:40] <benmctee> bjorn96: it sounds like you have recently switched from Windows, or are just trying out Ubuntu. What I recommend to my friends who have successfully switched is to ditch what you _think_ you need from the Windows world. There are equivalent or better free products for the Linux world.
[10:40] <bjorn96> yea, im allready using wine (cad and wordlist) but im not able to isnatll office 2010 inside it
[10:41] <benmctee> Give it a month going full-bore Linux without trying to make Windows programs work and without customizing your desktop to remind you of Windows XP/7/8... and just use it. In the future, you will be glad you did
[10:41] <bjorn96> benmctee, im usig ubuntu alongside windows. :D
[10:44] <benmctee> If you just want to mess around with Ubuntu without the desire to learn (ie Google for answers) yourself, then anything we say here isn't going to help you.  But, back to your original question regarding Android emulator: http://xmodulo.com/2013/03/how-to-run-android-emulator-on-ubuntu-or-debian.html
[10:44] <benmctee> Anything that says "apt-get" installs software on your machine. Don't do the "yum" commands, as those are for RedHat
[10:45] <k1l> http://askubuntu.com/questions/279816/how-to-emulate-androids-applications-in-ubuntu   bjorn96
[10:45] <benmctee> Do you have any questions regarding terminal commands from either of those pages?
[10:46] <bjorn96> wait a sec, downloading still. :D
[10:48] <allXunder> Anyone know how to fix mpm-itk module fail after updating to apache 2.4 (ubuntu 12.04)?
[10:49] <fish_> can I have multiple 'up' lines per interface in network/interfaces?
[10:51] <llutz> fish_: yes
[10:51] <fish_> llutz: cool thanks
[10:51] <llutz> fish_: see examples "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz"  near the end
[10:52] <fish_> llutz: ah right
[10:52] <llutz> fish_: also "man 5 interfaces " under IFACE OPTIONS
[10:54] <Diplomatico> Hello, How do I know the size of the persistence folder on my lubuntu live usb?
[10:54] <benmctee> allXunder: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734865
[10:55] <PigFlu> i just tried to install ubuntu, and i chose "install alongside windows 7" and clicked continue
[10:55] <PigFlu> however, it never asked me on which partition i wanted to install
[10:56] <PigFlu> have i now overwritten windows?
[10:56] <bjorn96> the problem with ubuntu is that its english help. :D
[10:56] <bjorn96> PigFlu, that deppends
[10:57] <k1l> PigFlu: what does "sudo fdisk -l" give you? please pastebin
[10:57] <FlexyRex> hi everybody, I have a hard disk with 500GB, I have installed Win 7 on a 250GB partition, and afterwards I installed ubuntu from a USB stick on a 150GB alongside windows, all went good, the only problem is that I installed grub loader on the same partition as I installed ubuntu, so now, grub doesn't show up, and only win7 loads up and I can't acces
[10:57] <FlexyRex> s ubuntu, What can I do? I am also very short on the remaining bandwidth for me, so reinstalling ubuntu is practically not an option.
[10:57] <k1l> !no | bjorn96
[10:57] <FlexyRex> how can load ubuntu and win7?
[10:57] <bjorn96> aha, er du norsk da? :D
[10:59] <PigFlu> my worry is that i never got this during installation: http://pad3.whstatic.com/images/thumb/f/ff/Install-Ubuntu-Linux-Step-8.jpg/670px-Install-Ubuntu-Linux-Step-8.jpg
[10:59] <PigFlu> right now its asking me my location and keyboard config and stuff, and im too scared to continue
[10:59] <benmctee> FlexyRex: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[11:00] <k1l> PigFlu: the exact pages on the version of ubuntu you try to install
[11:00] <PigFlu> im not sure what version im trying to install tbh
[11:00] <k1l> PigFlu: if you want to be on the safe site, shrink windows partition manually and then make own partition layout then choose that in the installer
[11:01] <Grewnuk> Ребят кто может подсказать почему не монтируется ntfs раздел с windows 8.1. Перелопатил кучу форумов, разные варианты испробовал, ничего не помогает. Может кто сталкивался?
[11:01] <ikonia> !ru | Grewnuk
[11:02] <PigFlu> k1l: i did shrink my windows partition, and i was hoping to be able to select that new partition during installation
[11:02] <FlexyRex> benmctee: thanks a billion, that seems extremly help ful, only that my system doesn't have a DVD drive and I installed ubuntu from a bootable USB flsh drive, will that work still?
[11:02] <PigFlu> but i never got the option
[11:02] <PigFlu> isnt that a little weird?
[11:02] <benmctee> PigFlu: Open terminal, type: sudo lsblk -o
[11:02] <PigFlu> what will that do
[11:02] <k1l> PigFlu: ok, then it will choose that free space
[11:02] <PigFlu> you sure?
[11:03] <benmctee> FlexyRex: yes, step 1 basically just says boot from live media, but he said CD... USB stick will work
[11:03] <k1l> PigFlu: i dont see and know what you are doing there exactly. so i cant give you a guarantee
[11:03] <Diplomatico> How do I know the size of a persistence folder on my live usb?
[11:03] <benmctee> PigFlu: that will tell us if you have an NTFS partition on your HDD
[11:03] <FlexyRex> benmctee: how can I open a terminal? there is no option for that?
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[11:04] <benmctee> Alt+F2
[11:04] <PigFlu> benmctee: its installing right now, i dont think i can open a terminal
[11:04] <benmctee> ah, I missed that part
[11:05] <FlexyRex> I should press those buttons when I see the first boot menu?
[11:05] <allXunder> benmctee, ubottu thanks! Was not able to found it :(
[11:05] <benmctee> You can try Ctrl+Alt+F6 to see if you can get a terminal from there, and then Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to GUI, but I wouldn't mess with it during install.
[11:06] <benmctee> FlexyRex: no, the Alt+F2 gets you a terminal once Ubuntu is up. I missed the part where you were in the middle of an install
[11:07] <FlexyRex> ok, so how about going to "try ubuntu without installing it" and then getting a terminal from Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[11:07] <FlexyRex> will that work?
[11:08] <benmctee> FlexyRex: What point of the install are you at right now?
[11:08] <FlexyRex> benmctee: I have completely installed ubuntu, with no errors, and now I am in Win7 cause I can't get into ubuntu or load it.
[11:09] <Diplomatico> Ok, does someone know how to check the size of the persistence folder on my live usb pen drive?
[11:09] <hewhomust> flexyrec how did you boot the usb drive
[11:10] <FlexyRex> hewhomust: http://rufus.akeo.ie/
[11:10] <benmctee> FlexyRex: OK, so you haven't wiped Windows, so you're safe there. Do you have different boot options now upon startup?
[11:10] <hewhomust> benmctee: I dont think he has grub
[11:10] <FlexyRex> benmctee: no only windows, it loads automatically
[11:11] <hewhomust> FlexyRex: how did you boot it from the bios
[11:11] <FlexyRex> I told ubuntu installer to install grub on the same partition as ubuntu itself
[11:11] <FlexyRex> hewhomust: F12 -> boot USB
[11:12] <elham> hi.I want to upgrade my Ubuntu (13.04), and u know software updater does not work any more!how can I upgrade my distro with command line?
[11:12] <hewhomust> FlexyRex: you should install it to sda
[11:12] <FlexyRex> Now that grub is installed on the same partition as ubuntu and not the first partition I can't get ubuntu to load into memory
[11:12] <FlexyRex> hewhomust: how can I do that?
[11:12] <PigFlu> what does fdisk -l do
[11:13] <hewhomust> PigFlu: lists the disks and partitions
[11:13] <benmctee> FlexyRex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootPartition
[11:13] <bjorn96> when i do ~/android-sdks/tools/android it doesent find anything??
[11:13] <PigFlu> hewhomust: it did nothing
[11:13] <elham> hewhomust, how can I upgrade my distro (ubuntu 13.04) with command line?
[11:14] <hewhomust> sudo fdisk -l
[11:14] <Vanfanel> Hi, is it possible to use jiffies from an userspace program? I'm trying to do so, but after passing the  kernel headers route to gcc, it says: "fatal error: asm/linkage.h: No such file"
[11:14] <hewhomust> elham back up all of your files then sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade
[11:15] <elham> hewhomust, thank u dude
[11:15] <benmctee> bjorn96: where did you download it to?
[11:15] <bjorn96> sorry, didnt. :/
[11:15] <bjorn96> doing it now. :D
[11:15] <PigFlu> why is there no restard button..
[11:16] <fish_> what is the right way to restart networking? /etc/init.d/networking restart says it's deprecated
[11:16] <elham> hewhomust: Invalid operation do-release-upgrade
[11:16] <fish_> service networking restart doesn't work either
[11:16] <bjorn96> ill be back in a sec
[11:17] <fish_> and restart networking also not
[11:18] <Gnusmas> how safe is tor-chat
[11:18] <llutz> fish_: "service network-manager restart"
[11:19] <Diplomatico> Gnusmas, tor is not safe...
[11:19] <benmctee> fish_: may need to add sudo to the beginning of llutz's command
[11:19] <fish_> llutz: not using networking manager
[11:19] <pulsar78> i need some help with fluxbox keys
[11:19] <hewhomust> elham: sudo apt-get install update-manager update-manager-core
[11:19] <fish_> but it seems that just the restart parameter is deprecated
[11:19] <Gnusmas> so vpn is good
[11:20] <llutz> fish_: sudo ifdown <iface> && sudo ifup <iface>
[11:20] <hewhomust> then do do-release-upgrade
[11:20] <elham> hewhomust, oh yeah I got it,really thanks
[11:20] <benmctee> fish_ most services started on boot can be restarted with "sudo service <servicename> restart"
[11:20] <fish_> benmctee: yep, but not networking
[11:20] <fish_> llutz: that's not restarting everything
[11:21] <llutz> fish_: from askubuntu, not sure if that works as desired: "sudo ifdown --exclude=lo -a && sudo ifup --exclude=lo -a"
[11:21] <llutz> fish_: should restart all but lo
[11:22] <fish_> llutz: networking stop, then start works so that's fine for me
[11:23] <fish_> but now it seems I can't bring up networking again and it doesn't say why
[11:23] <fish_> it's still in stop/waiting after service networking start
[11:25] <fish_> well, let if a reboot fixes that
[11:25] <benmctee> fish_ : it appears there is a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/1102507
[11:26] <benmctee> fish_: I just tried it on my laptop... am now restarting my laptop
[11:26] <fish_> hehe :)
[11:27] <benmctee> I would definitely say that's a serious bug. Why doesn't network-manager work for you?
[11:27] <fish_> benmctee: it's a server
[11:28] <benmctee> hmm.. guess I'm not up to speed on the differences, maybe others can help
[11:28] <fish_> it's just super messy. I would love to see ubuntu move all remaining stuff to upstart
[11:29] <llutz> from one mess into another one?
[11:30] <benmctee> I had to go to tty6 as my keyboard wouldn't respond (as expected) to reboot. Now, I have a solid purple screen, and switching tty does nothing
[11:32] <fish_> llutz: rather one mess than two
[11:32] <bjorn96> there was no help at #ubuntu-no
[11:33] <benmctee> fish_: interesting, apparently sudo reboot wasn't enough to undo whatever sudo service network restart does... had to power off, and then it booted up fine
[11:34] <irssi-mike> networking*
[11:38] <ramsrambo> unable to select and install updates listed in update manager
[11:40] <hewhomust> ramsrambo: try running it from terminal just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:42] <ramsrambo> hewhomust: these are nvidia graphics driver
[11:43] <VlanX> hey guy... is shutdown -p even a correct command for linux/bsd?
[11:43] <ramsrambo> hewhomust: that did not work
[11:43] <sonfack> h
[11:43] <sonfack> hi
[11:43] <sonfack> probleme depuis 2 mois intaller proxy
[11:44] <ubuntu-studio> wtf?
[11:44] <b3N> VlanX: yes... power off after
[11:44] <ikonia> ubuntu-studio: control the language please.
[11:44] <ubuntu-studio> sorry
[11:44] <ubuntu-studio> bye
[11:44] <ikonia> no problem
[11:44] <ramsrambo> hewhomust: sudo apt-get upgrade gave me 2 not upgraded
[11:44] <sonfack> problem installing squid on Debian 6
[11:44] <ikonia> sonfack: join #debian
[11:44] <hewhomust> ramsrambo: sudo dist-upgrade
[11:45] <hewhomust> some packages were held
[11:45] <b3N> VlanX: correct usage would be an uppercase though
[11:45] <ikonia> b3N: he's gone
[11:45] <b3N> yep, just saw that
[11:45] <ramsrambo> hewhomust : same status
[11:45] <Austin___> hi all, im trying to get a server im sshing into to join a VPN, but when i connect, i lose the SSH connection to my server, is there an easy way of retaining this connection?
[11:47] <k1l> ramsrambo: some updates still need other updates to be made before and are waiting for that other updates first
[11:47] <k1l> ramsrambo: run a "sudo apt-get udpate && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and put all that into a pastebin
[11:49] <rjdt0101> hi
[11:50] <rjdt0101> on startup i m getting could not write,broken pipe error on ubuntu version 12.04 LTS 64 bit
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: desktop or server?
[11:53] <rjdt0101> desktop
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: if you log in to the 2D session, is it ok?
[11:53] <b3N> Austin___: Are you using openvpn?
[11:53] <Austin___> does anyone know how to retain an ssh connection if the remote machine connects to a VPN?
[11:53] <Austin___> yes
[11:53] <rjdt0101> i have checked grub2 file
[11:53] <rjdt0101> also
[11:54] <Austin___> b3N: yes
[11:54] <rjdt0101> nope it is directly booting in cmd mode
[11:54] <b3N> Austin___: in the VPN configuration, can you check "use this connection only for resources on its network"?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: is this when you login, or is this before the OS fully loads?
[11:54] <rjdt0101> when i try to boot in graphical mode it shows broken pipe error
[11:54] <rjdt0101> before os fully load
[11:55] <rjdt0101> just after purple screen of ubuntu
[11:56] <Austin___> b3N: im using the remote machine to access the internet. i dont have to do this very often, i'd be happy with getting the remote machine to give me the new IP somehow and ill just connect that way
[11:56] <Austin___> >>manually
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: if you boot an older kernel, is it ok?
[11:57] <b3N> Austin___: I don't know of an elegant way off the top of my head to get the remote machine's IP. The way I go about it is Plex.  I log in to MyPlex, and it will tell me what my server is broadcasting. There must slimmer software out there though that will publish the IP to some destination for you.
[11:58] <rjdt0101> nope actually m not able access system through older kernel
[11:58] <Austin___> yer thats what im looking for really
[11:58] <Austin___> ill see if my VPN provider will tell me the connected IP on their website
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> b3N: are you on the same network presently?
[11:58] <rjdt0101> i have to use recovery mode to login into cmdline mode
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: is the RAM healthy if you test it with Memtest
[11:59] <rjdt0101> yes ram is healthy
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: what GPU do you use?
[11:59] <b3N> Austin___: no, I port forward SSH
[12:00] <rjdt0101> dont have any
[12:00] <rjdt0101> a basic machine with 2gb ram
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: you must. ALL systems on the planet have a GU or the system will not POST
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> *GPU
[12:01] <Austin___> ill have a think and get back to this tonight, its only meant to be a quick fix for something but ill have more time in a few hours
[12:01] <Austin___> thanks for your help b3N
[12:01] <rjdt0101> ok ok
[12:01] <rjdt0101> let me check
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[12:01] <k1l> ENG20: please dont do that
[12:01] <b3N> ActionParsnip: Sorry, that went to Austin___... what were you referring to?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: or does the system have a make and model?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> b3N: is the system you are wanting the IP of on the same network as you are?
[12:02] <zetheroo> is it possible to stop jbd2 from running on certain disks?
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[12:03] <b3N> ActionParsnip: no, I use SSH remotely, and then port forward inside the network
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> b3N: so which IP do you want?
[12:06] <rjdt0101> hey buddy m not able figure out
[12:06] <iwantoski> what's the different in mounting a hard drive to a folder using "mount" or by editing /etc/fstab?
[12:06] <iwantoski> difference*
[12:06] <rjdt0101> i've installed win 7 today
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: does the system have a make and model?
[12:06] <SirLagz> iwantoski: one can be mounted at bootup automatically, the other is manual
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> iwantoski: you mount partitions on drives, not the drive
[12:07] <b3N> ActionParsnip: For example, I am at a coffee house, and I want to SSH into my server at home. I need to know the IP address of my cable modem. Therefore, I log into MyPlex, grap the IP address that the server publishes to the world, and SSH to that. My Airport router handles the work of forwarding all SSH traffic to my static IP server within my network.
[12:07] <iwantoski> ActionParsnip: Aye, correct. I worded that incorrectly.
[12:07] <b3N> ActionParsnip: is there an easier way to grab my dynamic public IP address of the cable modem?
[12:08] <SirLagz> b3N: telnet ?
[12:08] <iwantoski> SirLagz: Meaning I will have to mount it manually on each startup - so I guess to do it correctly (i.e. not temporarily) I'd do it by editing /etc/fstab
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> b3N: then I suggest you get a web facing domain account. no-ip do free ones. You can install noip2 to your PC and it will refresh the IP to name pairing if your cable modem's DHCP lease expires and you get a new IP
[12:08] <b3N> SirLagz: not sure I follow
[12:08] <SirLagz> iwantoski: indeed
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> b3N: you can then use the name you registered to no-ip.com and it willwork all the time
[12:08] <SirLagz> b3N: can you telnet into your cable modem to get it's external IP address ?
[12:08] <rjdt0101> System Manufacturer:	BIOSTAR Group
[12:08] <rjdt0101> System Model:	H61MGV3
[12:08] <rjdt0101> System Type:	X86-based PC
[12:08] <rjdt0101> Processor:	Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3210 CPU @ 3.20GHz, 3200 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
[12:08] <rjdt0101> BIOS Version/Date:	American Megatrends Inc. 4.6.5, 3/1/2013
[12:08] <rjdt0101> SMBIOS Version:	2.7
[12:09] <iwantoski> SirLagz: Alright. And from the resources I've been reading I've come to understand that using the UUID is the preferred approach?
[12:09] <b3N> SirLagz: how does this help outside the network?
[12:09] <SirLagz> b3N: oh right. never mind
[12:09] <b3N> ActionParsnip: that sounds like a good plan.
[12:09] <SirLagz> b3N: sorry only read some of hte conversation.
[12:09] <ikonia> !pastebin | rjdt0101
[12:09] <SirLagz> iwantoski: yep
[12:09] <SirLagz> iwantoski: although in same cases, uuid doesn't work.
[12:09] <iwantoski> SirLagz: Many thanks monsieur!
[12:09] <b3N> SirLagz: no worries
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=638
[12:09] <iwantoski> SirLagz: Really? Depending on what?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: so you are using the Intel GPU inside your CPU (Sandy/ivy bridge)
[12:09] <SirLagz> iwantoski: no idea. I can't use UUID to mount the SD card on my eeePC though
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: so you have an INtel GPU
[12:10] <rjdt0101> yup
[12:10] <iwantoski> SirLagz: Ah. Okey, Well, wish me luck! Many thanks for your assistance.
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: why do I know more about your PC than you do?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: have you tried the boot option:   nomodeset
[12:10] <SirLagz> iwantoski: no probs
[12:11] <b3N> ActionParsnip: I was hoping to find some script that would e-mail me if the server detected a different gateway, notifiying me of the new IP.
[12:11] <rjdt0101> nope i have not tried that
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> b3N: you could set one up
[12:11] <b3N> ActionParsnip: I suck at scripting
[12:11] <SirLagz> b3N: I have a script that detects when my external IP address has changed, and then emails me the new IP address
[12:12] <b3N> SirLagz: care to share?
[12:12] <SirLagz> b3N: though my IP address is accessible on my Linux router which is where the email is from
[12:12] <SirLagz> b3N: I don't mind sharing, don't know if it will help you though
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> b3N:  wget -qO- icanhazip.com -      gives you the WAN IP, you can write that to a file if it changes, then cron a job to run the same command and if it's different, send you a mail and update the text file
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> b3N: no-ip.com is a LOT easier
[12:13] <SirLagz> b3N: http://sirlagz.net/2012/03/11/how-to-email-yourself-your-ip-address-each-time-it-changes/  <-- that's how mine is written
[12:13] <rjdt0101> which version is better for compiling android
[12:13] <SirLagz> ActionParsnip: Or do both ! :D
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> SirLagz: why not :)
[12:13] <SirLagz> rjdt0101: which version of what ?
[12:13] <foggalong> The Firefox aurora PPA at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily has stopped working
[12:13] <foggalong> I'm not sure who I should be telling about this
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> foggalong: so?
[12:13] <SirLagz> ActionParsnip: that's what I've done :D noip + dyndns + email myself the IP
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> foggalong: contact the PPA maintainer
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> SirLagz: I just use no-ip
[12:14] <SirLagz> ActionParsnip: i was having issues with no-ip for a while, so I signed up with dyndns too
[12:14] <SirLagz> as a backup of sorts
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> foggalong: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[12:14] <b3N> ActionParsnip: wow, that was too simple. Thank you.
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> foggalong: PPAs dont have to be on, they are managed by Joe Somebody on the web
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> b3N: usually is in Linux :)
[12:15] <rjdt0101> ubuntu
[12:16] <rjdt0101> which version of ubuntu is better for compiling and android
[12:16] <foggalong> ActionParsnip: I know PPAs are optional, I just wanted to clarify what I should be doing about this. I've already contacted the owner but as far as I can tell all changes for a while have been done by a bot maintainer
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: the ones which are supported
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> foggalong: they are not supported here
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> foggalong: you have done as much as anyone can do
[12:16] <rjdt0101> ok ok
[12:17] <foggalong> ActionParsnip: thanks for the clarification
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: Trusty is out in April, you could use Precise and then upgrade direct to Trusty on release day, or install the pre-release Trusty now and see how you get on
[12:17] <rjdt0101> ok
[12:17] <rjdt0101> but how to solve broken pipe error
[12:18] <rjdt0101> i encountered it  3-4 times
[12:18] <rjdt0101> i reinstalled ubuntu
[12:18] <rjdt0101> please suggest some solution for this problem
[12:20] <bjorn96> how do i open ~/android-sdks
[12:20] <bjorn96> in folder view
[12:22] <b3N> bjorn96: ~/ is your home folder
[12:22] <b3N> bjorn96: so if you were in terminal, instead of typing cd /home/username/etc/etc/  you would type cd ~/etc/etc
[12:23] <bjorn96> i cannot see /android-sdks
[12:23] <b3N> you probably did not save android-sdks to your root partition
[12:23] <b3N> where did you save it to?
[12:23] <bjorn96> i downloaded it to desktop
[12:23] <b3N> ok, so that is /home/username/Desktop
[12:23] <bjorn96> yea
[12:24] <b3N> if you want it to be in ~/android-sdk, then move it from your desktop to your home folder
[12:24] <k1l> bjorn96: if you give paths, you need to start at root-level. so its /home/username/Desktop/android-sdks   and not just /android-sdks
[12:24] <b3N> bjorn: think of / as C:\
[12:24] <k1l> bjorn96: doe a "ls -al" to see what is in you folder
[12:25] <bjorn96> i meant that i cannot see that folder
[12:25] <b3N> so C:\Documents and Settings\Username  =  /home/username
[12:25] <rjdt0101> ll
[12:25] <rjdt0101> command can also be used
[12:25] <rjdt0101> ;)
[12:26] <b3N> bjorn96: do you know how to open the terminal yet?
[12:26] <bjorn96> lol. ctrl alt t
[12:27] <bjorn96> i have downloaded Android SDK ADT and saved it on desktop
[12:27] <bjorn96> then i unpacked it
[12:27] <bjorn96> shoud i rename it?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> rjdt0101: was the nomodeset option helpful?
[12:29] <bjorn96> b3N, help me, ok? :D
[12:30]  * Koma afk (lunch)
[12:30] <Pene> im going to rape you
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> well, that had only one outcome
[12:31] <DJones> philstar: Best asking /lastlog 81-33-171
[12:35] <bjorn96> hello!
[12:36] <bjorn96> no help?
[12:37] <aki2389> bjorn96: hi
[12:37] <bjorn96> hi
[12:37] <fish_> bjorn96: what's your problem?
[12:37] <bjorn96> http://xmodulo.com/2013/03/how-to-run-android-emulator-on-ubuntu-or-debian.html is my problem
[12:38] <aki2389> and your problem is?
[12:38] <cake_> bjorn96: that doesnt sound like a problem, but like a guide/howto
[12:38] <bjorn96> maybe. :D
[12:39] <bjorn96> i have a problem with it. it doesent work
[12:39] <aki2389> at which point is it crashing?
[12:39] <bjorn96> im not able to install it
[12:39] <fidel_> bjorn96: "it doesnt work" is somehow unspecific. try to describe your problem as detailed as possible
[12:39] <aki2389> openjdk?
[12:39] <iwantoski> I just want to make sure I did this correctly. I created a partition (100% of available disk) on a second virtual drive (vdb). However, it's only one, and from the looks of it its named "vdb", NOT "vdb1" as I would have expected. Should I be worried or is this because I only have one partition?
[12:40] <blackwc> Hi. I installed nginx-extras and it says that fancyindex directive isn't supported. Did I miss something?
[12:40] <aki2389> bjorn96: "For 64-bit Linux user: you must install another prerequisite called ia32-libs since Android emulator is 32-bit software. "
[12:41] <vitimiti> I got a question about that: how can I install ia32-libs in ubuntu 13.10? or at least know the libraries needed when the package is just telling me ia32-libs
[12:41] <bjorn96> aki2389, i have done all commands, but i dont get the window on the last command
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> blackwc: does the service need restarting to apply the change?
[12:42] <blackwc> when i restart the service it says that the fancyindex directive isn't supported
[12:42] <blackwc> but the nginx-extras is supposed to have that.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> blackwc: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:42] <Rakesh_> Hi guys, I am facing some trouble with my ubuntu 12.04, from this morning it shows the message "system is running in low graphics mode", I have tried many solutions from google, but could not fix it :( Can someone help please
[12:42] <blackwc> ActionParsnip: OK hold on
[12:42] <SirLagz> Rakesh_: what video card ?
[12:43] <blackwc> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[12:43] <Rakesh_> ATI (Gigabyte Motherboard)
[12:43] <aki2389> bjorn96: what's the error?
[12:43] <blackwc> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l is the output for that
[12:43] <bgardner> bjorn96: See: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> blackwc: http://corz.org/server/tricks/htaccess.php?page=all
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Rakesh_: what video chip do you use?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> blackwc: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-linux-nginx-mysql-php-lemp-stack-on-ubuntu-12-04
[12:45] <Rakesh_> Hi ActionParship, its GigaByte mother board, ATI graphics card
[12:45] <blackwc> I'm not sure exactly how this solves my issue
[12:45] <blackwc> everything I want working is working fine. I see no need to to follow this guide. I need a module that doesn't seem to be present in the package I installed
[12:45] <blackwc> even though it is supposed to be there
[12:45] <Rakesh_> help
[12:45] <SirLagz> Rakesh_: are you using ubuntu packaged drivers or drivers from ATI ?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> blackwc: the first link shows how to add the line in htaccess, or something
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> blackwc: have you asked in the apache channel too?
[12:46] <blackwc> htaccess is required?
[12:46] <bjorn96> E: could not find the package is32-lib
[12:46] <blackwc> that seems strange
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Rakesh_: which ATI GPU?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> blackwc: no idea, Im simply searching the web....
[12:47] <blackwc> well thanks for the help
[12:47] <blackwc> I'll look further into it
[12:47] <bjorn96> dont care about the last one, one letter to few. :/
[12:47] <bjorn96> missed a s
[12:47] <bjorn96> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ok?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> blackwc: http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/apache-fancyindexing-and-php-5-mod_autoindex/
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> blackwc: http://www.superk.org/index.php/Apache_FancyIndexing
[12:48] <blackwc> I'm using nginx
[12:48] <blackwc> not apache
[12:48] <blackwc> sorry if I forgot to mention that
[12:49] <blackwc> it's OK. it's trivial anyway. I'll just use the standard autoindex
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> blackwc: have you tried asking in the nginx channel?
[12:50] <blackwc> no but I will.
[12:50] <Rakesh_> ActionParship: How can I find which GPU ?
[12:51] <SirLagz> Rakesh_: lspci
[12:51] <bjorn96> ??
[12:52] <themhz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/423123/printer-simulator-for-ubuntu
[12:53] <aki2389> bjorn96: yeah
[12:54] <glambert> hi, using precise and I'm trying to install dbmail from source.  getting an error on ./configure of "configure: error: Could not find OPENSSL library."   ---- anyone know why? I've installed libssl1.0.0 and openssl but still not working
[12:54] <bjorn96> aki2389, i dont understand. maybe im stupid. :/
[12:55] <Rakesh_> Hi, its says Radeon 3000
[12:56] <somsip> glambert: proabbly need the -dev version of the library
[12:57] <Rakesh_> Hi guys, I am having a problem from this morning.. It says "system is running in low graphics mode" Ubuntu 12.04
[12:58] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: it says Radeon 3000
[12:58] <SirLagz> ok
[12:58] <SirLagz> have you uninstalled hte ubuntu drivers ?
[12:59] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: Yes it was all ubuntu defaults, was working till this morning, suddenly happened
[13:00] <SirLagz> Rakesh_: so the drivers have been uninstalled now ?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Rakesh_: try the boot option:  radeon.blacklist=1
[13:01] <Rakesh_> No did not do so, I tried installing fglrx (from some google suggestions) and then removed them
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Rakesh_: there is a known issue with 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxxx radeon GPUs, there is a legacy ppa with a driver that may help
[13:03] <Rakesh_> So now I am in recovery mode and in root prompt (with networking enabled), what shall I try now?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Rakesh_: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Rakesh_: if you have web access then the commands will run ok
[13:04] <glambert> somsip, thanks
[13:04] <Rakesh_> yes I have, let me try
[13:05] <Xuisce> glambert: heyo
[13:05] <glambert> Xuisce, sorry?
[13:06] <Xuisce> glambert: oh just a hello
[13:06] <Rakesh_> apt-get-repository is this is a command? it says command not found
[13:10] <jdm_> how much are 1-2TB external hd's now?
[13:10] <Rakesh_> ActionParsnip: I am trying the commands now
[13:15] <geirha> jdm_: You might as well just ask "Who's fastest at searching with google?"
[13:15] <Rory> jdm_: Affordable
[13:15] <fossjon> on mars, there's a shortage of platters though
[13:15] <fossjon> so dont buy from that planet please
[13:15] <fossjon> :)
[13:16] <Rory> noted.
[13:18] <PapaSierra> morning. i have 12.04, and a while ago i wanted to install php 5.4. to achieve this i added the dotdeb apt repo. now i'm trying to simply run "sudo apt-get install gearman-job-server" but it seems like the dobdeb thing is interfering. i don't understand what's going on. http://www.hastebin.com/raw/yeyoyuxiba
[13:19] <PapaSierra> i have tried "apt-get -f install", and it does a few minutes of work, but then still the same issue when i try to install gearman-job-server
[13:21] <DF10> Hello
[13:22] <DF10> I only have one question: has the issue with laptop double video card been fixed on latest version of Ubuntu?
[13:22] <Rory> !details | DF10
[13:22] <Rory> DF10: Oh you mean like Nvidia Optimus?
[13:23] <DF10> yeah, I got Intel+Nvidia with Nvidia Optimus
[13:23] <Rory> I wasn't aware it was "broken", it works on my thinkpad
[13:23] <Rory> Not for switching between them on-the-fly, but both work when I choose one or the other from the BIOS
[13:24] <DF10> Ok, this is what I wanted to hear. I can't do the switch from BIOS because I have to use Windows also. So it would be nice if on Ubuntu there was too the on-the-fly witch.
[13:25] <DF10> Thanks anyway, bye!
[13:27] <PapaSierra> anyone with dotdeb experience?
[13:28] <Rory> !anyone
[13:31] <Rakesh_> ActionParsnip: Are you there ?
[13:32] <dslr> hi, i would like to build the current kernel image from source.  i need the exact same version, because i have a pre-compiled kernel module (.ko) file with me which i need to then load into my kernel.
[13:32] <dslr> i have been doing apt-get source linux-image-`(uname -r)`, but that also patches the kernel to a version that is ahead of the current version on my machine.
[13:33] <PapaSierra> Rory: i asked above in the scrollback ^ and waited but go no reply, sorry for the "does anyone..."
[13:33] <PapaSierra> morning. i have 12.04, and a while ago i wanted to install php 5.4. to achieve this i added the dotdeb apt repo. now i'm trying to simply run "sudo apt-get install gearman-job-server" but it seems like the dobdeb thing is interfering. i don't understand what's going on. http://www.hastebin.com/raw/yeyoyuxiba
[13:33] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: Are you there?
[13:33] <SirLagz> Rakesh_: yes
[13:33] <Rory> PapaSierra: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update"
[13:33] <Rakesh_> I tried following what andy said, but no luck :(
[13:33] <ikonia> dslr: why do you want to rebuild the kernel from source
[13:33] <ikonia> dslr: what benifit do you hope to get ?
[13:33] <Rory> PapaSierra: Np, sorry I must have missed your question higher up =)
[13:33] <dslr> eg., my machine has version 3.2.0-41, but when i do apt-get, i end up getting 3.2.46-.., any way to get specific source code for 3.2.0-41
[13:34] <dslr> ikonia: i have to load a kernel module that i have modified, it is tuned for an application that i want to use.
[13:34] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: Any other suggestion ?
[13:35] <SirLagz> Rakesh_: what have you tried so far ?
[13:35] <Rory> dslr: Can't you just sudo apt-get source linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic
[13:35] <SirLagz> Rakesh_: have you upgraded your kernel ?
[13:35] <ikonia> dslr: you don't need to rebuild the kernel to load a module
[13:35] <dslr> Rory: i tried that, but it still patches the kernel to a version ahead.
[13:35] <Rory> dslr: I don't really understand why you are putting in the "uname -r" if you don't want the same version as reported by uname -r
[13:35] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: Dont know, but did not do anything intentionally this morning. If you want me to check anything, I can
[13:35] <dslr> Rory: i want the same version as reported by uname -r
[13:36] <Rory> dslr: Are you sure you're cding into the right directory and building the right kernel?
[13:36] <SirLagz> Rakesh_: I'd do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade to make sure you're all up to date
[13:36] <basketball-away> i have supybot in my channel how do i make him send messages and kick people
[13:36] <Rakesh_> I just did a apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[13:37] <dslr> ikonia: i understand that; but the kernel module that i want to load from my modified source is already built-in into the existing kernel image. which means, i cannot load it again unless i rmmod the existing one.
[13:37] <Rory> basketball-away: Hi, you've accidentally joined #ubuntu this is the Ubuntu support channel :)
[13:37] <dslr> ikonia: which i cannot, because the kernel image has it as built-in, and not as a module.
[13:37] <dslr> Rory: yes, I am sure
[13:37] <cederfjard> Is anyone aware of a pdf-viewer with "session management"? Google is failing me so far.
[13:37] <PapaSierra> Rory: http://pastebin.com/yjU3DadK notice the references to dotdeb
[13:38] <Rory> err PapaSierra that says "squeeze" which is a Debian release name... are you sure your ubuntu version is supported by dotdeb?
[13:39] <PapaSierra> Rory: the history is i was stuck on ubuntu 12.04, but i needed php 5.4. 12.04 packages go up to 5.3 only. i had to hack something to install php 5.4, so i added dotdeb
[13:40] <Rory> PapaSierra: OK, and now you have broken your package manager :P
[13:40] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: I am trying your command now.. .
[13:40] <Rory> PapaSierra: Remove the dotdeb repository and apt-get remove any packages you installed from it
[13:40] <PapaSierra> how do you mean?
[13:40] <san007> ok
[13:40] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: It says nothing to upgrade..
[13:40] <PapaSierra> Rory: that will remove php though, no?
[13:40] <ikonia> it's all the dependencies
[13:41] <ikonia> not just the package
[13:41] <Rory> PapaSierra: There's a PPA for PHP. Take a look here http://askubuntu.com/questions/109404/how-do-i-install-latest-php-in-supported-ubuntu-versions-like-5-4-x-in-ubuntu-1
[13:41] <ikonia> it's probably pulled in loads of stuff
[13:41] <Rory> PapaSierra: Yes, that will remove PHP
[13:41] <Rory> PapaSierra: You're probably going to need a reinstall
[13:41] <san007> from this irc you could get info regarding your problem in using ubuntu aka linux related help
[13:41] <SirLagz> Rakesh_: is fglrx driver currently installed ?
[13:41] <PapaSierra> Rory: so i should just kill the vm and start over?
[13:41] <san007> later tell its advantages
[13:41] <Rory> PapaSierra: You could try to fix it as a learning experience
[13:42] <PapaSierra> Rory: :)
[13:42] <san007> BRB SirLagz
[13:42] <Rakesh_> SirLagz : I just followed this, https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[13:43] <SirLagz> I would just remove fglrx altogether and see what happens
[13:43] <Rakesh_> apt-get purge fglrx* ?
[13:45] <Simone> CIao
[13:45] <Simone> chat Italiana?
[13:45] <DJones> !it | Simone
[13:46] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: Just removing..
[13:46] <SirLagz> Rakesh_: ok
[13:46] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: Removed, any command to check anything or just reboot?
[13:46] <SirLagz> reboot
[13:47] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: Rebotting into normal mode..
[13:49] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: No, same issue, it seems the driver is changed (the system is running in low .....), that dialog, seems to have a different size
[13:49] <starnix> hello people please help me get back my laptops screen resolution, I uninstalled the nvidia drivers but still I have same 640x480 screen
[13:49] <richard> hello
[13:50] <richard> just a test
[13:50] <pippijn> hi
[13:50] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: Any login anything to check?
[13:51] <pippijn> I installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop, but was not pleased with it, so I uninstalled it and got ubuntu-desktop back
[13:51] <pippijn> now my desktop theme is the one from gnome-desktop
[13:51] <pippijn> how can I change it back?
[13:52] <pippijn> before: https://paste.xinu.at/BFhzW/
[13:52] <pippijn> after: https://paste.xinu.at/QxE/
[13:52] <pippijn> I prefer the before style
[13:52] <somsip> So what do I need to run in Unity to change the default repo source toi something closer to home?
[13:53] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: Are you there?
[13:54] <SirLagz> Rakesh_: sorry yes I'm here
[13:54] <SirLagz> Rakesh_: not sure then. That's what I did to fix my issue
[13:54] <Rakesh_> SirLagz: Hmm, I see
[13:59] <somsip> somsip: answering self - Update Manager | Settings
[14:03] <james-ubc> hey is there any way to add magnet links to deluge without triggering the prompt?
[14:06] <survietamine> hello, on a 12.04 server, I'd like to change dns /etc/resolv.conf, it's managed by resolvconf package. Is editing /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/original the "right" way ?
[14:07] <llutz> survietamine: edit head or base, not original which is only a backup
[14:07] <survietamine> I don't have network manager nor unbound/dnsmasq on this server
[14:07] <survietamine> llutz: ah ok, thank you
[14:07] <llutz> survietamine: run "sudo resolvconf -u" after finishing your changes
[14:08] <survietamine> llutz: but theses files has warning inside too "#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN"
[14:08] <llutz> survietamine: thats the warning being copied into /etc/resolv.conf, don't worry
[14:08] <survietamine> llutz: ah ok, confused :/
[14:11] <survietamine> llutz: hmmm, so I wrote new nameserver line in "base" file, and run resolvconf -u, now my resolv.conf file contains old dns first and new just after. I'd like to *replace* old entries
[14:12] <llutz> survietamine: does "head" contain your old dns?
[14:13] <survietamine> llutz: no, it's just in "original" file
[14:13] <llutz> survietamine: you get your dns via dhcp?
[14:13] <survietamine> llutz: I guess this file is from "setup" time
[14:13] <survietamine> llutz: no, it's static config on my servers
[14:14] <llutz> survietamine: grep dns-nameservers /etc/network/interfaces            any output?
[14:14] <somsip> !info git-el precise
[14:15] <survietamine> llutz: yes, old entries are there but with the comment "# dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed"
[14:15] <survietamine> llutz: on old debian releases I used to write directly in interfaces file but now, I don't know what to do on new ubuntu releases
[14:16] <survietamine> llutz: so I have to remove it from interfaces file ?
[14:16] <llutz> survietamine: rename the "original" file into original-bak and run resolvconf -u again. any changes?
[14:16] <llutz> survietamine: if interfaces lines start with "#" those are only comments and shouldn't affect the resolv.conf-file
[14:17] <survietamine> llutz: no still have old entries with new ones
[14:18] <llutz> survietamine: and "head" doesn't contain the old dns too?
[14:18] <survietamine> llutz: no, just the warning :/
[14:19] <survietamine> llutz: I'm reading this page, http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ the author says same as you "original is just a backup"
[14:19] <Austin___> gunna have another crack at this
[14:19] <Austin___> im SSHing into a remote server and then connecting that server to a VPN
[14:20] <Austin___> when i do so, the SSH connection is broken
[14:20] <llutz> survietamine: that's odd. as a workaround you could add "nameserver x.x.x.x " to "head"  which should place it on 1st row but resolv.conf still would contain your old dns, wherever it comes from
[14:20] <Austin___> is there an easy way to see what the new IP is so i can just reconnect on the new IP
[14:20] <Austin___> ?
[14:21] <survietamine> llutz: is that "dangerous" if I manually remove old entries from interfaces file ?
[14:21] <llutz> survietamine: not really, to be on the safe side, make a backup of the file before
[14:22] <llutz> Austin___: "ip a s" or "ip r s" should show you
[14:22] <survietamine> llutz: I've seen that etckeeper package exists, I've never used it before, do you think it's a good idea ?
[14:22] <llutz> survietamine: if you know how to use git, yes
[14:23] <Austin___> llutz: thing is, i dont have SSH access after i connect the remote server to the VPN, so i can't run that command
[14:23] <survietamine> llutz: yes, but it seems based on bazaar, I've never used it, but I guess it similar
[14:23] <survietamine> llutz: by putting new nameserver lines in both head and base files, I have now twice these entries in resolv.conf :)
[14:24] <llutz> survietamine: sure, add it only to one of those files
[14:24] <llutz> survietamine: iirc etckeeper can be configured to use git, not bzr
[14:27] <survietamine> llutz: I've seen -a and -d options to resolvconf, maybe I can use it to update my interfaces file ? I don't get what is IFACE.PROG
[14:29] <llutz> survietamine: iface like "eth0" from interfaces-file
[14:29] <Austin___> hi all, excuse me if im asking in a unrelated channel. I've got a remote server that i administer over ssh and want to connect it to a VPN and then restore the SSH connection, but when i make the VPN connection, my SSH connection times out and i've got no idea what the new IP is. is there an easy way of getting that new IP address to me so i can just SSH to the new address?
[14:30] <daniell`> my xubuntu 12.04 machine has frozen a few times today, what should I do to get more info to diagnose the problem?
[14:31] <usr13> daniell`: Complete freeze?  (No response from mouse or keyboard?)
[14:31] <survietamine> llutz: yeah, iface I knows that but why IFACE.PROG ?
[14:32] <daniell`> usr13: no response from keyboard, sometimes no response from mouse
[14:33] <llutz> survietamine: idk, i thought it's the same think, just different naming in resolvconf. if you change the "iface eth0...." part in your interfaces file and add dns-nameservers .... , you run "sudo resolvconf -a eth0" after that
[14:33] <usr13> daniell`: Most of the time, it is an issue with RAM.  Frist thing I'd do is shut down and boot to memtest and run it for 6 or 8 hours and see if you get any errors.  You could also just re-seat the memory sticks, see if that helps.
[14:33] <daniell`> usr13: last time i left it frozen for a while and even the graphical shell was dead
[14:33] <usr13> Well, that's a different story, if the keyboard quits and mouse still works or if mouse quits and keyboard still works, it could be something else, (other than RAM).
[14:33] <daniell`> usr13: allright, I'll try that. But it seems kinda weird it would suddenly start doing this. The PC is brand new and has worked perfectly for a few months now
[14:34] <usr13> daniell`: Is it the mouse usually?
[14:35] <daniell`> usr13: 2/3 times the mouse didn't respond (not sure though, helping someone else)
[14:35] <usr13> daniell`: PS2  or   USB?
[14:36] <daniell`> usr13: keyboard usb, mouse ps2. I just foudn a segfault in kern.log
[14:37] <usr13> daniell`: Has he tried unplugging and plugging in again?
[14:38] <usr13> daniell`: Ok... you may be on the right track....
[14:38] <nautilus_> Mitn räidn kemment de Leit zomme !
[14:40] <DJones> !at | nautilus_ (Hope this is the right language factoid),
[14:40] <daniell`> usr13: the culprit is libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
[14:40] <nautilus_> thx
[14:41] <daniell`> usr13: I guess I can't just delete the pakage as tons of stuff depends on it; how would I go about fixing it?
[14:45] <usr13> daniell`: You might try dpkg-reconfigure
[14:46] <PCLinux> Hi everybody
[14:47] <usr13> daniell`: Are you even sure the culprit is libdbus-1.so.3.5.8?
[14:48] <smokealot420> hey yall
[14:49] <usr13> daniell`: sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdbus-1-3  ?
[14:49] <PigFlu> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 and i cant say i recognize the layout. it suddenly looks like OS X, except the toolbar is vertical
[14:49] <PigFlu> how can i change this?
[14:49] <Pici> !notunity | PigFlu
[14:49] <usr13> Pici: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:49] <daniell`> I'm sure that there is a segfault with dbus in kern.log, which is the last entry of that boot cycle. Next entries start a few minutes later
[14:49] <Pici> PigFlu: or just install your DE-du-jour and pick it in the sessions menu in light-dm
[14:50] <PigFlu> yea i have no idea what you're talking about :(
[14:50] <daniell`> usr13: but maybe it's not the causo of the crashes, the computer owner did not write down the exact times of the crashes
[14:50] <PigFlu> i dont use linux/ubuntu THAT much, just for programming occasionally
[14:50] <daniell`> usr13: I did the dpkg-reconfigure thing but it didn't give any output
[14:50] <cfhowlett> PigFlu, you can sample any/all of the DE (look and feel)., e.g. sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4 kde      and so forth
[14:51] <PigFlu> hmmm will try
[14:51] <PigFlu> are those "themes" i install, and then apply in settings, or?
[14:52] <cfhowlett> PigFlu, install, logout, choose your DE, login
[14:52] <peerdu> heya. how come i can't write to a HFS+ (journaled) disk?
[14:53] <PigFlu> that seems odd. what is a DE?
[14:53] <somsip> peerdu: OSX encrypted by any chance?
[14:53] <cfhowlett> PigFlu, desktop environment.  look and feel
[14:53] <peerdu> nah, no filevault active
[14:53] <somsip> peerdu: k - no idea then. A recent enquiry from someone wanting to mount HFS encrypted was a non-started, so thought I'd ask
[14:54] <somsip> *non-starter
[14:54] <usr13> peerdu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/332315/how-to-read-and-write-hfs-journaled-external-hdd-in-ubuntu-without-access-to-os
[14:54] <peerdu> its really odd. i need to read out a hfs+ partition and copy it to another hfs+ which is not possible due to "read-only file system"
[14:54] <hans_henrik> bug with both 12.04.2 installer and 13.10 installer (and i guess everything in between), when you have a cdrom read speed of ~40Kbps, the setup will freeze after pressing "install" ; upping to ~1Gbps , it doesn't freeze. the exact MB it tries to read from 12.04 is also consistent, but i dont recall the exact number (either 1.6MB or 2.6MB)
[14:54] <peerdu> thanks usr13
[14:54] <usr13> google-foo
[14:55] <hans_henrik> ok i think it was, it reads 2.6MB and freeze
[14:56] <hans_henrik> (or "install ubuntu on this machine" or whatever it was called)
[14:57] <usr13> hans_henrik: USB
[14:59] <glicerio_> d
[15:00] <glicerio_> any one alive?
[15:07] <peerdu> my live ubuntu is happening to freeze a lot when trying to mount a certain hdd. is there a way to stop a current process when its already frozen up?
[15:08] <elichai2> ppa is just a nice tool to add repos?
[15:10] <PCLinux> I have a PC loaded with Windows XP and I used the Ubuntu 12.04LTS windows installer to run ubuntu side-by-side with windows. I want to add another hard drive to my system so that linux will have its own drive. My question is...Can I use the windows installer to install ubuntu onto the other drive so that at the PC post screen it will ask me which drive to boot?
[15:12] <tomshreds> Hey folks, I have php5-fpm 5.4.6 installed on Ubuntu 12.04. I'm trying to upgrade it to 5.5.x but I can't. Is there any specific way to do so? The package has no update is it because I'm still on 12.04?
[15:13] <cfhowlett> PCLinux, the windows installer, aka wubi is for TESTING ubuntu, not for long term installation.  moreover, it is no longer a supported project.  for testing, consider virtualbox.  otherwise, look into a proper dual boot configuration.  why?  the weaknesses of the NTFS filesystem can easily break your ubuntu.  Once broken, almost impossible to fix whereas in dual boot or virtualbox ...
[15:14] <noobler> I'm trying to make my computer dual boot.. and even though both installations have gone successful, only my windows install is booting
[15:14] <cfhowlett> !details|noobler, more details needed:
[15:15] <noobler> my ubuntu install, however, doesn't and the computer is not giving me an option to boot into it. I've treid manually opening the boot sleection list and it only shows windows 7
[15:15] <noobler> I installed windows 7 along with ubuntu 13.10
[15:15] <cfhowlett> win7 first, ubuntu next?
[15:16] <noobler> yes cfhowlett
[15:16] <noobler> I partitioned a clean hard drive into 3 partitions. i  made a 50 gb partition for windows, 30gb partition for ubuntu, and the rest as shared storage.
[15:16] <usr13> noobler: Install win7 in virtualbox
[15:16] <usr13> !virtualbox | noobler
[15:17] <noobler> the 50gb partition and 30 gb partition were both left unformatted so that the installers would format them themselves to make the reserved space and swap space for the corresponding OS
[15:17] <PCLinux> Well that explains why my linux installation has errors.
[15:17] <FourFire> Hello
[15:17] <FourFire> which channel should I inquire about VNC ?
[15:17] <noobler> I don't want to use the virtualbox because i need both full operating systems.
[15:18] <geniuos> jpedroza2k use cairo dock
[15:18] <cfhowlett> PCLinux, wubi ubuntu's tend to slowly accumulate windows induced errors until it just - breaks.
[15:18] <noobler> also, when instlling ubuntu's bootloader, it asks where to install it and i selected the harddrive rather than any particular partition. any suggestions/
[15:19] <peerdu> one more: how can i mount a disk to a folder using a specific uid ?
[15:19] <FourFire> yeah I don't reccomend WUBI
[15:19] <Valduare> im having a hell of a time with ubuntu on my macbook pro 7.1 hardware - the stock graphics driver crashes after few seconds, and the proprietary drivers boot to black screen
[15:19] <FourFire> install real Ubuntu
[15:19] <Astyanx> Can someone provide me a guide / help with connecting to a VPN?  I'm running 13.10 server.  Everything I've found either points to using the desktop version, or that you know a fair bit about what you're doing... :D
[15:20] <FourFire> alright, can someone help me setup a VNC server/client for the first time?
[15:20] <FourFire> I have two different softwares at both ends (cross platform)
[15:20] <llutz> peerdu: use chown for unix-fs or uid=xxx mount-option on non-unix-fs
[15:20] <cfhowlett> noobler, a full ubuntu takes perhaps 10 gigs.  give it 15 to be safe; /15 /swap /home of as much as you want
[15:20] <FourFire> Ubuntu 12.04 - Android 4.4
[15:20] <cfhowlett> !vnc
[15:20] <noobler> cfhowlett i gaveit 30 gbs
[15:20] <elichai2> ppa is just a nice tool to add repos?
[15:21] <llutz> !ppa | elichai2 no, ppas are repos
[15:21] <PCLinux> So, Can cfhowlett help me get an installer for my second drive and maybe even tell me where to information on making my PC ask which drive to load??
[15:21] <peerdu> llutz: thanks, what syntax is preferred to find out hfs+ uid ?
[15:21] <cfhowlett> noobler, your box but that is WAY excessive.  I've got combined ubuntustudio + the dell sputnic packages and haven't broken 10 gigs yet
[15:21] <noobler> cfhowlett with the swap being in the shared partition of 350+ gb. by shared i mean both operating systems haave access to it and i only use it for documents, pictures, usic etc..
[15:21] <FourFire> I'm on a secure local network, so I don't need to SSH
[15:21] <elichai2> llutz, so what the diffrence between ppa and sources.list
[15:22] <FourFire> that guide just completely casts aside VNC, wth?
[15:22] <cfhowlett> PCLinux, I've not done the multiple hdd configuration - not the best person to ask.
[15:22] <cfhowlett> noobler, you mean windows and ubuntu share?
[15:22] <llutz> elichai2: sources.list (files) are just files containing repos to be used with apt
[15:22] <hans_henrik> VNC is a horrible protocol for remote desktop*****
[15:22] <PCLinux> Ok...Can you recommend someone?
[15:22] <hans_henrik> (security-wise)
[15:23] <cfhowlett> PCLinux, sorry, I don't know everyone's setup?  :)
[15:23] <noobler> cfhowlett yes, but they're only sharing those kinds of documents. they're not sharing that space for anything else. i mean they both have access to it. That storage space is NTFS formatted and in no way attached to the operating syste,s. it's a seperate partition.
[15:23] <llutz> peerdu: i have no idea about hfs+, but maybe this helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/100167/how-to-mount-hfs-drive-and-ignore-permissions
[15:23] <compdoc> FourFire, which version of Ubuntu are you using? VNC is broken in the newest versions
[15:23] <cfhowlett> noobler, not the way I'd go, but - doable I guess.
[15:23] <PCLinux> it is ok, thanks
[15:23] <FourFire> 12.04 LTS
[15:24] <compdoc> oh, ok - thats good
[15:24] <elichai2> llutz, and this different from ppa how?
[15:24] <FourFire> I want to see my screen on android 4.4
[15:24] <FourFire> how do I set it up?
[15:24] <llutz> elichai2: scroll up and read what ubottu told you
[15:24] <compdoc> FourFire, you might look into xrpd - very easy to install
[15:24] <compdoc> *xrdp
[15:25] <FourFire> I have X11VNC server and something called remina
[15:25] <elichai2> llutz, that ppa's are from launchpad repo?
[15:25] <FourFire> on android I have "androidVNC"
[15:25] <noobler> cfhowlett i used this guide here after i tried it myself and failed the same way. http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[15:26] <noobler> cfhowlett, just so you have an idea of what i did exactly. I did not have windows installedon this hard drive at all
[15:26] <cfhowlett> noobler, reading now
[15:26] <noobler> cfhowlett ty so much
[15:26] <cfhowlett> noobler, during install, did ubuntu see your win7?
[15:27] <noobler> no, it never mentioned anything about it
[15:27] <cfhowlett> noobler, ?  have you booted win7 since installation?
[15:27] <noobler> yes i'm currently on it
[15:27] <noobler> on a different pc
[15:28] <cfhowlett> noobler, has your win7/ubuntu computer booted both OS's since you installed them?
[15:29] <noobler> no, it will not display ubuntu in the bootuplist. it only displays windows 7 and i have to access the menu manually. The pc will not automatically recognize that I should have an option
[15:29] <FourFire> compdoc, if you can help, I'd be grateful
[15:29] <cfhowlett> noobler, in order: 1.  ubuntu installed successfully, but grub did not.  reinstall grub
[15:29] <cfhowlett> !grub
[15:30] <cfhowlett> noobler, 2.  ubuntu did NOT install.  reinstall ubuntu.
[15:31] <flouric> compdoc, so vnc
[15:32] <noobler> cfhowlett i can't boot into ubuntu though, so should i open up ubuntu with the live cd?
[15:33] <flouric> compdoc my screen is borked and barely working sometimes so I want to view desktop on this android device
[15:33] <cfhowlett> noobler, and seriously consider your need for a shared data partition for win7/ubuntu.  After much experimentation, I realized that the only files I regularly wanted in both OS were my music library and certain documents.  I mount the windows partition and ONLY use the music.  documents are in virtualbox installed in both OS.
[15:33] <cfhowlett> noobler, did you try to reinstall grub?
[15:34] <noobler> cfhowlett i'mtrying it now. and the files that are in the shared partition are simply things like music and  programs that I have ashomework that have to bounce between both os's
[15:35] <cfhowlett> noobler, yeah, well.  problem is that ntfs is a less stable system than ext4 and it's quite easy to accidentally muck things up as your bounce between OS's.  YMMV
[15:36] <cfhowlett> keeping your homework in a dropbox would fix that, would it not?
[15:36] <jost> can someone recommend a low level XMPP client? It should be possible to send my own stanzas
[15:36] <noobler> cfhowlett well, neither os is dependent or involved at all on the drive. so i'll just simply transfer them over on a usb.
[15:37] <cfhowlett> noobler, OK.  so - grub?
[15:39] <noobler> cfhowlett ook so i typed in "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" which is the correct drive and it gave me the error "Path '/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting"
[15:42] <noobler> holwing down left shift on startup does nothing cfhowlett
[15:43] <cfhowlett> noobler, restart and tap the shift key after Power On Self Test
[15:43] <noobler> cfhowlett i just did and continues right  on with windows 7 startup
[15:44] <cfhowlett> noobler, so you can't even enter your bios?  is this a new computer?
[15:44] <noobler> cfhowlett i can enter, using f2 though.
[15:45] <cfhowlett> noobler, OK - set your computer to boot the USB or CD rom
[15:45] <Guest57373> noobler: good you can enter bios
[15:45] <Guest57373> noobler: what is the issue you are having
[15:46] <noobler> cfhowlett already did.
[15:47] <noobler> Guest57373 i'm trying to dualboot ubuntu and windows 7 using this guide http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony but  windows 7 is booting fine and ubuntu is not even in the boot up option list. if i access the list manually, ubuntu is not on the list even after successful install. i tried reinstalling grub but the computer tells me the 'path 'boot/grub' is not readble by grub on boot
[15:48] <OerHeks> noobler sounds like you have a GPT partitioning
[15:49] <noobler> oerheks: gpt ? not sure what that is
[15:49] <whoever> noobler: so where are you stuck, what is going on
[15:49] <x3_iVaN> noobler: yo may use EFI for booting Win
[15:50] <noobler> i'm stuck on getting ubuntu to boot. it has successfully installed according to the installation prompt but wil not display once i boot the computer.
[15:50] <dalit> hi im finding difficulty in using android sdk manager in ubuntu12.04
[15:50] <x3_iVaN> noobler: look at your BIOS config to change EFI to normal boot
[15:50] <noobler> it automatically boots into windows 7
[15:50] <whoever> noobler: what order did you install windows and ubuntu
[15:50] <noobler> x3_iVaN  ok give me 1 sec
[15:50] <noobler> whoever i installed windows first then ubuntu
[15:51] <noobler> they are both on seperate partitions
[15:51] <whoever> noobler: edit your grub list
[15:51] <whoever> and and it
[15:51] <usr13> noobler: When you look for instructions on stuff to do with modern computer systems, make sure it is current.  When you follow 2 or 3 year old guides, there are sometimes stuff that doesn't exactly fit right.  And when using ubuntu, try and stick with the ubuntu forms.
[15:51] <whoever> sounds like the ubuntu entry some how isn't adde
[15:52] <dalit> can somebody please guide me, here's a shot http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-02-19_21_17_48-lmHJX2TD.png
[15:52] <noobler> usr13 i notice that and looked for others. they were allsimilar but i chose this one because it made more sense to me
[15:52] <x3_iVaN> I guess if he use GPT partitions, installation can't write to MBR
[15:52] <usr13> noobler: For instance:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[15:53] <whoever> noobler: this is a fairly straight forward process, you can eiter edit the grublist, hit e, and enter the correct path to see that ubuntu boots, or just wipe the drive and start over
[15:53] <usr13> noobler: ... Just giving some friendly advise.  (And sometimes the simplier stuff is just that simple.)
[15:54] <dalit> hi im finding difficulty in using android sdk manager in ubuntu12.04, can somebody please guide me, here's a shot http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-02-19_21_17_48-lmHJX2TD.png
[15:54] <whoever> dalit: are you codeing with it
[15:54] <dalit> no im not
[15:54] <noobler> no usr13 thank you very much . although it is very similar to the other guide, this onepoints out a problem that cfhowlett asked about. the ubuntu installation never  recognized or detected that windows 7 was installed on a different partition while this one guide says it will
[15:55] <dalit> i just want to run android app on my ubuntu pc
[15:55] <dalit> whoeve
[15:55] <whoever> dalit: what are you using the sdk manager for then
[15:55] <usr13> noobler: If you have Ubuntu installed, what you need to do is to boot the system, (from aboot disk), and repair the grub boot loader.
[15:55] <dalit> i just want to run android app on my ubuntu pc using it
[15:56] <dalit> whoever
[15:56] <noobler> usr13 whoever how do i re[air the grub boot list if you have time
[15:56] <cfhowlett> dalit, run android on ubuntu?  what?
[15:56] <usr13> noobler: See:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub   &    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[15:57] <dalit> whoever : i just want to run android apps like WhatsApp on my ubuntu pc using it
[15:57] <OerHeks> dalit so you have an glib.so error, but i have no experience with android
[15:57] <cfhowlett> !wine|dalit,
[15:58] <usr13> noobler: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[15:59] <black_angel> hey,guys, i installed ubuntu 12.04 into Thinkpad E430, and now, the problem is, it can't use the nvidia driver.
[15:59] <noobler> usr13 i have 13.10 64 bit
[15:59] <dalit> i dont know if its an error of sort,but it gives a blank screen like this http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-02-19_21_29_05-m3K41Acx.png
[16:00] <dalit> OerHeks , cfhowlett , whoever
[16:00] <whoever> dalit: are you using this http://askubuntu.com/questions/290845/how-to-run-an-android-emulator-in-ubuntu-13-04
[16:00] <noobler> usr13 i'm going to try the grub2 restore right now, give me 2 minutes
[16:00] <whoever> dalit: you can't do it nativly
[16:00] <usr13> noobler: Did you install from CD or USB media?
[16:01] <black_angel> it just always use the default 'i915' driver, though the driver 'nvidia' is loaded.
[16:01] <usr13> noobler: Ok.  let us know...
[16:01] <nijo_> Hi all When will official ubuntu touch image for nexus 5 comes out???
[16:01] <black_angel> who can help me?
[16:01] <usr13> !phone | nijo_
[16:01] <noobler> usr13 from usb
[16:01] <nijo_> but nexus5 not listed in it??
[16:02] <somsip> nijo_: discussion in #ubuntu-touch ...
[16:02] <cfhowlett> nijo_, not listed, not officially supported.
[16:02] <nijo_> will official images for nexus5 come soon??
[16:02] <Thete> There any other good display managers i can slap onto Ubuntu other than Unity or KDE?
[16:02] <dalit> whoever , actually i referred this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742803
[16:02] <somsip> nijo_: not here, eh?
[16:02] <cfhowlett> nijo_, do you even read?  go to the !touch page
[16:02] <nijo_> ok sorry
[16:02] <cfhowlett> !touch
[16:03] <cfhowlett> Thete, yes.
[16:03] <gordonjcp> how annoying, python-moinmoin has a broken package
[16:03] <Thete> cfhowlett: What seems to be the most popular at the moment?
[16:03] <llutz> Thete: neither unity nor kde are display managers
[16:03] <black_angel> and i can see that the NVIDIA UNIX x86 kernel module 331.38 has been loaded. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6960551/
[16:03] <Thete> llutz: Desktop environments
[16:03] <cfhowlett> Thete,  software center > desktop environments > look at the ratings
[16:04] <cfhowlett> !poll
[16:04] <Thete> cfhowlett: hmm, that would mean I have to actually have it installed at the moment to do that
[16:04] <gordonjcp> why does python-moinmoin insist on installing apache?
[16:04] <usr13> noobler: Reboot your computer and set it to boot from USB, boot into a live session. Install and run Boot-Repair... etc.  (from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub )
[16:04] <Thete> I'm just looking for something that'll work ok with Eclipse since the menu's are broken in Unity
[16:04] <gordonjcp> that's a really bad decision
[16:05] <cfhowlett> Thete, lxde, xfce4 and kde are all part of official ubuntu flavors
[16:05] <noobler> usr13 it worked!!! kinda. now itbooteddirectly into my ubuntu distro and didn't ask for windows
[16:05] <somsip> Thete: have you looked into the command "wmname LG3D" when Java apps don't play nicely?
[16:05] <Thete> cfhowlett: I'll check those out, thank you
[16:06] <cfhowlett> noobler, one step at a time.
[16:06] <OerHeks> gordonjcp, nginx is possible > http://moinmo.in/HowTo/UbuntuQuick#Nginx_Installation
[16:06] <llutz> gordonjcp: apt-get --no-install-recommends   install <package>              will it still pull apache?
[16:07] <Thete> If I do export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 before launching eclipse it works
[16:07] <noobler> cfhowlett okay, so booting into linux? check! now just need the grub list to show up
[16:07] <somsip> Thete: ok - so you have a workaround already
[16:07] <Thete> Yes, but it's not exactly a fix
[16:07] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: it works just great under nginx
[16:07] <gordonjcp> llutz: yes
[16:08] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: well
[16:08] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: it used to, until Ubuntu installed apache
[16:08] <whoever> dalit: even if that does work it will be extreemly slow, that method is used when testing android apps
[16:10] <whitehat> hi group. have a GB 970A-D3 mobo, with all 6 SATA ports populated. installed SiI 3124 4port sata card.  have nothing plugged into sata card because when I do those disks apparently get mapped first and I loose mapping for onboard sata ports regardless of where I put drives in fstab or the method used to specify drives (i.e. UUID or /dev). been looking through bios and on SiI card for options to change but I'm puzzled.  running Ubuntu 13.10 with al
[16:10] <somsip> dalit: I believe the x86 emulator is better if you really want to do that sort of thing http://www.android-x86.org/ (but a bit OT for here)
[16:10] <usr13> noobler: Do you have Win7 on the same HD?  (Or is it installed on a separate Hard Drive?)
[16:11] <dalit> somsip , surely i will try
[16:11] <noobler> usr13 same hd
[16:11] <somsip> !info fabric precise
[16:12] <elichai2> any one here uses weechat?
[16:12] <xeon> hello everyone
[16:12] <somsip> !anyone | elichai2
[16:13] <elichai2> does weechat have a servers list?
[16:13] <Xuisce1> hi all
[16:13] <Tai> hullo
[16:14] <Xuisce1> Tai: hello
[16:15] <Astyanx> how can i see a debug of why my VPN client isn't connecting?  is there a line I add to /etc/ppp/peers/ ???
[16:16] <usr13> noobler: pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg  #Show us resulting URL.
[16:16] <somsip> !alis | elichai2
[16:17] <elichai2> thanks
[16:18] <noobler> i cant use pastebin. china has itblocked
[16:19] <usr13> noobler: See my PM
[16:19] <noobler> any other suggestions for pasting info usr13?
[16:30] <syntac> noobler, can you see http://sprunge.us/ ?
[16:31] <jpedroza2k> Good morning. I have a laptop with an intel 4000 series graphics that has a dock to connect a total of three displays (1080p). All three are connected, but I get the following error when I try and activate all three: GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._gnome_2drr_2derror_2dquark.Code2:could not set the configuration for CRTC 63
[16:35] <jpedroza2k> I have 2 of the exact same laptop that are working fine with three displays, it is just this one that is having issues.
[16:36] <pyarun> exit
[16:50] <Toadstool2> hello
[16:50] <Toadstool2> does anyone know how to remove the annoying messages panel at the bottom of gnome?
[16:50] <Toadstool2> it interferes with my dock
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Toadstool2: can you give a screenshot of the issue, or find one online
[16:51] <Rory> Toadstool2: This extension may help you https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/393/distraction-free/
[16:51] <Toadstool2> distraction free dosent work
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Toadstool2: you can use imageshack (or similar) to make a URL of the image
[16:51] <Toadstool2> lets see
[16:51] <Toadstool2> i'll get a screenshot for you
[16:52] <Rory> Toadstool2: Or you can do this:
[16:52] <jpedroza2k>  I have a laptop with an intel 4000 series graphics that has a dock to connect a total of three displays (1080p). All three are connected, but I get the following error when I try and activate all three: GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._gnome_2drr_2derror_2dquark.Code2:could not set the configuration for CRTC 63
[16:52] <Rory> edit the file /usr/share/gnome-shell/js/ui/messageTray.js as root, and look for the parameter TRAY_DWELL_TIME (around the line 45).
[16:52] <Rory> Toadstool2: Change its value to something like 4000
[16:54] <john_doe_jr> how do I take the contents of my usb drive and convert those contents to a ios file?
[16:54] <ihre> hi, I'd like to split 1 logfile in 2, both containing 50% of the data. I could use vim, 50% dG, :vnew and paste it but that takes ages with a file of 1GB. Is there an easier way for this?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: so an ISO of the entire USB stick?
[16:55] <Toadstool2> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=67088
[16:55] <Toadstool2> there's the screenshot
[16:55] <Toadstool2> look at the very bottom
[16:55] <john_doe_jr> ActionParsnip: yes
[16:55] <Toadstool2> where it says "no messages"
[16:55] <Toadstool2> its the most frustrating panel ever
[16:56] <Toadstool2> it comes up every time i want to access my dock
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l    what is the device name of the usb? eg,   /dev/sdb
[16:57] <Xuisce1> hi all
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Toadstool2: i can't see 'no message' at the bottom of your screenshot...
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Toadstool2: ok, its RIGHT at the bottom
[16:57] <john_doe_jr> ActionParsnip: it's on /dev/disk1
[16:57] <Toadstool2> yeah
[16:58] <Rory> Toadstool2: Shame that extension didn't work for you; it seems it does work for a lot of people :( Other than that, and the config file tweak I gave you, I don't know what else to suggestr
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: sudo dd if=/dev/disk1 of=~/USB.iso      will do it
[16:58] <Toadstool2> i'll try editing the config file to see what it does
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Toadstool2: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:58] <Toadstool2> thanks rory
[16:58] <Rory> Toadstool2: So if you've tried both those and still no luck, perhaps try making a forum post or on ask ubuntu
[16:58] <mehwork> is there a way, from the command line only, to see my power settings such as my laptop's sleep settings?
[16:58] <Toadstool2> rory did the extension work for you?
[16:58] <john_doe_jr> ActionParsnip: it's that easy…wow
[16:58] <noobler> woohoo usr13 fixed my problemmmmmm
[16:59] <Rory> Toadstool2: I don't use Gnome-shell ;)
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: yeah, super easy. it'll go til the partition with home on fills, or /dev/disk1's end is reached, whichever happens first
[16:59] <Toadstool2> action ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[16:59] <Toadstool2> rory what do you use?
[16:59] <john_doe_jr> ActionParsnip: how long will it take though…it's about a 4 GB file ?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: it'll be a while, let it bake
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> Toadstool2: is it gnome shell?
[17:00] <Toadstool2> action: yes
[17:00] <john_doe_jr> ActionParsnip: is there a 'verbose' option so I can see what it's doing
[17:00] <john_doe_jr> ?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: there are some extra bits you can add for prettness but it is doing it
[17:02] <Rory> Toadstool2: Mate on everything I have a choice about. Unity on my 12.04 development environment so it's as "vanilla" as possible.
[17:02] <john_doe_jr> ActionParsnip: I don't see any verbose options in man pages of dd
[17:02] <Rory> john_doe_jr: There's no progress bar for dd, sadly, it's actually quite a long-lamented ommission
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: yeah its a bit more 'bashy'
[17:03] <Vivekananda> hi there everyone
[17:03] <Rory> john_doe_jr: It's because you could be dding from, say, an infinitely long file, and then what would the progress bar look like? :)
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Toadstool2: seems to relate to the bottom launcher, have you asked in #gnome
[17:03] <john_doe_jr> Rory: well, it made a 4 GB file but looks like it's still running
[17:03] <Rory> john_doe_jr: Wait for it to finish and drop you back to a shell
[17:03] <Rory> john_doe_jr: Then, to be safe, run the "sync" command before pulling the drive
[17:03] <liberta> hi
[17:03] <Toadstool2> edited the config file
[17:03] <john_doe_jr> Rory: alright…waiting…
[17:03] <Toadstool2> about to reboot
[17:03] <Toadstool2> i'll be back to let you know rory
[17:03] <Rory> Toadstool2: Logging off will suffice
[17:07] <ANONYGAMER> hi
[17:07] <noobler> hi
[17:07] <ANONYGAMER> :)
[17:08] <noobler> :)
[17:08] <ANONYGAMER> where do you come from ?
[17:08] <Toadstool2> okay so i changed TRAY_DWELL_TIME to 9000
[17:08] <Toadstool2> and it still shows up immediately
[17:08] <noobler> this isn't a social chat, you come in here to ask for help.
[17:08] <Toadstool2> i swear this interface was designed by a room full of monkeys
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Toadstool2: did you restart the shell (or log off and on)
[17:08] <ANONYGAMER> ho ok
[17:08] <Toadstool2> i rebooted
[17:08] <ANONYGAMER> ok
[17:09] <Xuisce1> hi andrewjs18
[17:09] <andrewjs18> hi
[17:09] <Xuisce1> ANONYGAMER: hi
[17:10] <Guest94530> what is your linux ROM ?
[17:11] <Toadstool2> okay
[17:11] <Toadstool2> so i tried editing the config file
[17:11] <Toadstool2> i tried distraction-free
[17:11] <Toadstool2> rebooted both times
[17:11] <Toadstool2> this little bastard panel is like a cockroach
[17:11] <Toadstool2> it just wont die
[17:12] <ANONYGAMER> :D
[17:12] <noobler> :)
[17:12] <dougl> lol
[17:12] <Xuisce1> lol
[17:12] <ANONYGAMER> hi what is your linux ROM ?
[17:12] <Toadstool2> anyone else got any other suggestions?
[17:12] <xangua> ANONYGAMER: please stop
[17:12] <Toadstool2> im using ubuntu-gnome
[17:12] <xangua> Toadstool2: what panel¿
[17:12] <Toadstool2> 13.10
[17:12] <Toadstool2> the "messages" panel
[17:13] <ANONYGAMER> Oo
[17:13] <Toadstool2> at the very bottom
[17:13] <Toadstool2> its an osx like panel
[17:13] <Toadstool2> so stupid
[17:13] <Toadstool2> grr
[17:13] <ANONYGAMER> :)
[17:13] <tdannecy> Toadstool2: That might be "Plank" or "Docky"
[17:13] <noobler> did you install the panel as an add-on? or did it come with gnome?
[17:13] <Toadstool2> its not docky
[17:13] <noobler> :)
[17:14] <Toadstool2> i'll post the screenshot again so you can see xangua
[17:14] <liberta> i have a problem on skype
[17:14] <FiremanEd> Toadstool: This looks a little old but may have some info. http://askubuntu.com/questions/97046/is-there-a-way-to-hide-the-messaging-tray-in-gnome-shell
[17:14] <liberta> can you help me?
[17:14] <liberta> my camera is back
[17:15] <liberta> but it is normal on cheese
[17:15] <Toadstool2> http://pbrd.co/1hvA4HY
[17:15] <Toadstool2> its the panel on the very bottom
[17:15] <Toadstool2> the one that says "no messages"
[17:15] <tdannecy> Toadstool2: I can definitely tell you that's Docky or Plank.
[17:15] <Toadstool2> below the dock
[17:15] <Toadstool2> not the dock itself but just below it
[17:16] <noobler> toadstool2 read what firemaned posted, looks helpful
[17:16] <tdannecy> Toadstool2: Your image isn't loading on pastboard. Gimme a sec! I'll check it.
[17:16] <Toadstool2> wow that's a lot of steps
[17:16] <Toadstool2> okay lets try this
[17:17] <Toadstool2> i'll do anything to get rid of that demon panel
[17:17] <noobler> lol
[17:17] <liberta> Toadstool2 your theme is cool
[17:17] <Toadstool2> thank you liberta
[17:17] <liberta> :)
[17:18] <Belial`> Toadstool2, looks like cairo dock to me
[17:19] <noobler> liberta, my friends computer did that once on windows but she had installed an editor that would edit the video real-time. it was funny
[17:19] <noobler> i don't know what the cause of your problem is though liberta.
[17:19] <tdannecy> Toadstool2: Have you looked in your Startup Applications? It might be listed in there.
[17:20] <noobler> liberta: have you tried messing with the setting? if yes, then did you by chance install any sort of video editor? if not, then you might want to check the camera's setting or updating the driver for it
[17:20] <kapad> has anyone here had success with caching a hdd to ssd
[17:20] <kapad> using flashcache or bcache
[17:20] <kapad> ?
[17:20] <raptor101> hi guys
[17:21] <noobler> kapad, desktop or laptop?
[17:22] <noobler> kapad, the reason i ask is because if it's a desktop, does your motherboard support caching? some of the newer motherboards have a SATA connection that is specific for caching and requires drivers
[17:22] <raptor101> i have a problem i need help with
[17:22] <Rory> !ask | raptor101
[17:23] <kapad> laptop
[17:23] <kapad> @noobler
[17:23] <raptor101> i installed ubuntu 13.10 and at 1280x720 on my LCD monitor , the screen is off the edges
[17:24] <Rory> raptor101: Is your screen resolution in Ubuntu set to the native resolution of the monitor?
[17:24] <ice9> is there any other window system than X?
[17:24] <noobler> raptor101, can you pastebin your /boot/config.txt file?
[17:24] <kapad> @noobler Motherboard has some sort of cache. Laptop was bought with Win and had Intel RST working.
[17:24] <Rory> !wayland
[17:24] <Rory> ice9: ^
[17:24] <raptor101> yes 1280x720 is the native resolution of my monitor
[17:25] <kapad> !bash
[17:25] <kapad> Never knew about this bot. Its sweet.
[17:25] <noobler> raptor101 can you pastebin your /boot/config.txt file?
[17:26] <tdannecy> !etiquette | kapad
[17:26] <Rory> !ubottu | kapad
[17:28] <raptor101> there are many config files here , which one to pastebin ??
[17:28] <noobler> raptor101 it should be called config.txt
[17:29] <noobler> raptor101 open your terminal and type "nano /boot/config"
[17:29] <noobler> then just copy and paste to pastebin
[17:30] <Arma> hey does anybody know how to take a screenshot when using the live cd?
[17:30] <liberta> noobler, thank you for reply. problem occurred when just i am using skype
[17:30] <Toadstool2> i tried firemans suggestion
[17:30] <Toadstool2> that didnt work either
[17:30] <raptor101> its empty
[17:30] <Toadstool2> i think
[17:30] <Toadstool2> im going to hire an exorcist
[17:31] <raptor101> no such file as config
[17:31] <Toadstool2> or switch to fluxbox
[17:31] <Toadstool2> is fluxbox still a thing?
[17:31] <liberta> otherwise everything is normal
[17:31] <noobler> raptor101 sorry! i meant nano /boot/config.txt"
[17:31] <Arma> hey does anybody know how to take a screenshot when using the live cd for ubuntu?????
[17:32] <raptor101> no i figured, /boot/config.txt is exactly what i typed
[17:33] <Arma> nevermind i found it, thank you
[17:33] <raptor101> in boot directory there config-3.xx-generic files though
[17:33] <hoerde> Stat -c %N on ubuntu 13 uses ‘’ characters instead of `' characters, is there a way to control the format?
[17:33] <llutz> raptor101: nano /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[17:33] <noobler> raptor101 what distro are you using?
[17:34] <raptor101> ubuntu 13.10 along windows 7
[17:35] <raptor101> it worked with the config-$
[17:35] <skinkitten> hi. how can I play a bluray disc? ubuntu 12.04LT
[17:36] <noobler> raptor101 just to make sure, that resolution is the same one you use in windows 7, Yes?
[17:36] <hoerde> this stat format difference is breaking serverspec 'be_linked_to' test
[17:37] <dougl> where do you/we/I chat about ubuntu on tablet (samsung)?
[17:37] <raptor101> yes
[17:37] <raptor101> http://pastebin.com/2VjeeQLL
[17:37] <skinkitten> Anyone can help with a blueray drive? after insert a bluray disc the driver is not recognized, eject doesn't work too. what can I do? running Ubuntu 12.04 LT
[17:38] <xanux> http://askubuntu.com/questions/140080/playing-blu-ray-using-vlc
[17:38] <noobler> raptor101 ok let's reset the resolution first and then work from there
[17:38] <hoerde> Can anyone tell me how to get: stat -c %N /etc/blkid.tab to display `/etc/blkid.tab' -> `/dev/.blkid.tab' and not ‘/etc/blkid.tab’ -> ‘/dev/.blkid.tab’
[17:39] <jpedroza2k> Found a solution to my issue: Updating 10.10 to kernel 3.12 fixed the multiple monitor issue. It appears it was an existing bug in the 3.11 kernel.
[17:39] <noobler> raptor101 go ahead and type "rm `/.config/monitors.xml"
[17:39] <hoerde> on ubuntu 10.x
[17:39] <jpedroza2k> :%s/10.10/13.10/g
[17:39] <noobler> then can you pastebin or pm me whatever "xrandr" gives you?
[17:40] <noobler> raptor101 sorry again, this keyboard sucks. i meant type "rm ~/.config/monitors.xml"
[17:41] <xanux> are you guys trying to fix screen resolution?
[17:41] <raptor101> http://pastebin.com/jrmyd6xU
[17:41] <raptor101> xanux yes
[17:41] <skinkitten> thanks xanux is there something I can do about the drive not ejecting? after inserting a bluray the device is non-existant in the directory and "eject -n" yields eject: unable to find or open device for: 'cdrom'
[17:42] <xanux> try sudo :S
[17:42] <raptor101> deleted monitors.xml
[17:43] <noobler> yes i know
[17:43] <skinkitten> xanux, pressing the eject button doesn't work too.
[17:43] <skinkitten> xanux, doesn't work with sudo
[17:43] <xanux> give me  a min :P
[17:44] <fossjon> i just set a cron to eject every 5 mins
[17:44] <Toadstool2> I FIGURED IT OUT!!!!!!!!!!
[17:45] <Toadstool2> nothing else would get rid of this demon message tray for me
[17:45] <Toadstool2> except for this
[17:45] <Toadstool2> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/616/insensitive-message-tray/
[17:45] <xanux> eject /dev/cdrom
[17:45] <Toadstool2> insensitive message tray
[17:45] <iter> skinkitten: umount /dev/cdrom
[17:45] <Toadstool2> works the best
[17:45] <Toadstool2> im so happy
[17:45] <Toadstool2> holy crap you guys
[17:46] <noobler> raptor101 one sec
[17:46] <Toadstool2> it took me almost 3 hours to figure this out
[17:46] <Toadstool2> please pass this message to any other poor souls
[17:46] <skinkitten> iter, "umount: /dev/cdrom: not found"
[17:46] <iter> last skinkitten
[17:46] <iter> whoops
[17:47] <skinkitten> system doesn't see the drive
[17:47] <raptor101> take ur time
[17:47] <xanux> plug the cable in :/
[17:47] <iter> skinkitten: sudo lshw | grep -i cdr
[17:48] <Toadstool2> waddup nach0z
[17:48] <noobler> raptor101 this si going to sound stupid but change the resolutionback to your native (1280 X 720) then try changing the scan setting on your tv to 4:3
[17:48] <iter> skinkitten:  you can also check sudo dmesg | grep -i cdr
[17:49] <skinkitten> iter, command is accepted because nothing is being returned
[17:49] <iter> sounds like you don't have drivers for that drive skinkitten
[17:49] <raptor101> lol even with 4:3 ratio 720p is cut off, the above taskbat and sidebar are just half visible, no change
[17:50] <iter> what's the make/model of it
[17:50] <crazydip> Am I being dumb or is keys.gnupg.net GONE? not good for the default public key repo... redirects to some wordpress blog
[17:51] <raptor101> although i know for sure it works with 1368x768 cuz it worked on a an older installation with no problems , but once upgraded my screen resolution options are severly limited
[17:52] <iter> skinkitten: you could also check sudo dmesg | grep ata
[17:52] <daftykins> *1366x768
[17:53] <daniel891> hi guys, I have a partition with ubuntu on one disk and i want to move that partition to another disk. is that possible?
[17:54] <iter> daniel891: of course
[17:54] <raptor101> daftykins check out the cvt for 1366 768
[17:54] <iter> does your new disk have data on it?
[17:54] <daftykins> 'cvt' ?
[17:54] <daftykins> raptor101: i'm not sure what you're suggesting
[17:54] <skinkitten> iter, it was working before I tried a blueray disc. The dvd that was in it before ran fine.
[17:54] <daftykins> *bluray
[17:55] <noobler> rapotor101 if it works at that resolution you can make it
[17:55] <raptor101> http://pastebin.com/GUa8XgQp
[17:55] <daniel891> iter, yes, but I have plenty of space, so I can create new partitions. Ubuntu partition is 100gb and I have 700gb of free space.
[17:55] <iter> skinkitten: can you check the output of 'sudo dmesg | grep -i atapi' for the make model
[17:55] <raptor101> but that resolution isnt available under display settings anymore after upgrade
[17:55] <noobler> xrandr --output HDMI0 --mode 1368x768
[17:55] <xanux> does your monitor have just scan feature?
[17:56] <iter> daniel891: will you need to boot from your new disk and is it currently booting something else
[17:56] <skinkitten> iter, paste.ubuntu.com/6961117
[17:56] <raptor101> xanux sadly no
[17:56] <noobler> xanux i was going to ask that and then forgot what i was going to ask until you said it lol
[17:56] <skinkitten> iter, http://www.paste.ubuntu.com/6961117
[17:56] <xanux> ohhh noooo
[17:57] <xanux> :c
[17:57] <noobler> raptor101 if you execute that code ^^^^ it will only last through that session so you're gonna have to figure out how to autmoate it upon startup. i forgot how to do it
[17:57] <raptor101> it says cant find mode
[17:57] <skinkitten> iter, err it works without the www. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6961117
[17:58] <raptor101> addmode perhaps ??
[17:58] <noobler> try HDMI-0
[17:58] <noobler> if not, try just HDMI
[17:58] <noobler> oh wait you said mode...
[17:58] <Guest20132> hello world
[17:59] <raptor101> no the HDMI-0 is right, it cannot find HDMI output
[17:59] <Guest20132> someone know python?
[17:59] <Thete> Guest20132: Are you wanting to learn it?
[17:59] <noobler> ok then try opening your xorg.conf file
[17:59] <Guest20132> Yes just the basics
[18:00] <skinkitten> iter, xanux ?
[18:00] <Thete> Guest20132: https://www.edx.org/course/mitx/mitx-6-00-1x-introduction-computer-1498
[18:00] <xanux> hello
[18:00] <Thete> Guest20132: I'm starting that tomorrow
[18:00] <noobler> umm sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:00] <Thete> Guest20132: If you audit it, it's somewhat free
[18:00] <noobler> then where modes are put that in
[18:01] <noobler> guest20132 and thete i would recommend learnpythonthehardway.org
[18:01] <Guest20132> i will check that out
[18:01] <Thete> noobler: Is that the same as the book?
[18:01] <Guest20132> thanks
[18:01] <Thete> There's a book called that as well that I just bought
[18:01] <xanux> skinkitten still having problems?
[18:01] <Guest20132> i have some pdf
[18:01] <noobler> thete exactly the same and it's free if you use the HTML version
[18:01] <Thete> oh damn
[18:02] <Thete> lol
[18:02] <noobler> lol
[18:02] <Thete> It's ok, I don't mind having a paper copy of it too
[18:02] <skinkitten> xanux, yes. how do I get the disc out?
[18:02] <noobler> it's always good when you don't want to be switching back and forth thete
[18:02] <xanux> do you have a paper clip
[18:02] <Guest20132> Python the 3rd edition?
[18:03] <Thete> noobler: You wouldn't know by chance if the book comes with access to that site by chance?
[18:03] <iter> skinkitten: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474552
[18:04] <noobler> raptor101 you're going to put it in the subsection "Display" part
[18:04] <raptor101> i added 1368x 768_60 to xrandr via addmode and used output to display, works lie a charm
[18:04] <skinkitten> xanux, iter "wodim --devices" returns Cannot open SCSI driver!
[18:04] <Guest20132> you can download it on tpb
[18:04] <noobler> awesome :D raptor101
[18:04] <Guest20132> the pdf
[18:04] <iter> that's really old too
[18:04] <Thete> I don't do that
[18:04] <raptor101> but i know that it will only work for this session so maybe a script for to make it easier ??
[18:04] <Thete> That stuff is hard work for those guys, I don't mind paying them
[18:05] <noobler> thete, i'm not sure. i know you can get videos on the site. so unless the book came with a code or something, then probably not.
[18:05] <Guest20132> thats nice
[18:05] <raptor101> thnx for all the help though everyon
[18:05] <dgarstang3> I am having troubles with apt-cacher-ng... specifically it's avoiding the proxy specified in Acquire::http::Proxy on the client.
[18:05] <noobler> raptor101 i know there's a file you could add it to one sec
[18:05] <Guest20132> exp on Geany, anyone?
[18:06] <skinkitten> iter, what am I suppose to do with that? Is that a fix?
[18:06] <iter> skinkitten: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/965213
[18:07] <raptor101> noobler do u mean xorg ??
[18:07] <iter> well both of those reports ended up being hardware issues
[18:07] <noobler> raptor101 probably. haven't done it in a long time
[18:07] <iter> can you reboot to bios and hit eject while its posting
[18:07] <alnkpa2> hey, I'd like to use ecryptfs-migrate-home and have two questions: what does "USER really must run ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase(1) or zescrow(1) and record their randomly generated mount passphrase." mean and what happens if I don't? and: will my home dir automatically get decrypted after migration?
[18:07] <skinkitten> iter, how do I do that?
[18:08] <iter> skinkitten: does the drive have an eject button? Just reboot and press the button when you see the HP screen
[18:08] <skinkitten> iter, ok
[18:08] <raptor101> its fine, i think i can manage from here, thanks for the help though
[18:08] <dgarstang3> I am having troubles with apt-cacher-ng... specifically it's avoiding the proxy specified in Acquire::http::Proxy on the client.
[18:09] <noobler> raptor101 i think you add it to /etc/init.d you simply paste the addmod code and then the change resolution code and it should work. i think! and no problem! have a great day/night wherever you are lol
[18:10] <skinkitten> iter, ok the disc is out
[18:11] <skinkitten> iter, is there a fix or is this a dead end for the blue ray drive?
[18:11] <iter> skinkitten: just to be clear, it worked before and then stopped working
[18:12] <skinkitten> for a dvd iter
[18:12] <iter> skinkitten: try to reproduce the issue again please
[18:12] <iter> skinkitten: if it's reproducible = usually software, if it's random = usually hardware
[18:12] <daniel891> iter, sorry I was bussy with other things. What I'm going to lose if I only save my /home partition and reinstall ubuntu?
[18:13] <iter> daniel891: depends on what you have saved outside home of course
[18:13] <iter> daniel891: what's your goal
[18:14] <nichlas> daniel891: you'll lose stuff like /var/www, /etc/ and so on. but it is not a problem unless you have changed anything in those dirs yourself
[18:15] <daniel891> nichlas:I'm a php programmer, so I have plenty of things on /var/www Not sure about /etc
[18:16] <iter> daniel891: if you have the disk space available, why not just save everything
[18:17] <xanux> Flappy Birds Multiplayer!  :O
[18:17] <skinkitten> iter, thanks but I'm going to go ahead and work on another issue. Thanks again. xanux thank you for your help.
[18:17] <iter> cheers
[18:17] <xanux> :D
[18:18] <noobler> i hate that game
[18:18] <xanux> haaha lol me too
[18:18] <noobler> because i can't get past the first tube
[18:18] <iter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD-nzHy2DdU
[18:19] <xanux> im going to make my own clone off flappy birds
[18:19] <dgarstang3> I am having troubles with apt-cacher-ng... specifically it's avoiding the proxy specified in Acquire::http::Proxy on the client.
[18:20] <noobler> i was going to make one on scratch for fun yesterday, then decided not to for my computer's safety
[18:20] <noobler> and because i would make a cheat code where i would knock them down instead of dying
[18:21] <bekks> dgarstang3: Change the URLs in the clients sources.list to specifically use the apt-cacher-ng server.
[18:22] <dgarstang3> bekks: That results in an error, "URL seems to be made for proxy but contains apt-cacher-ng port. Inconsistent apt configuration?"
[18:23] <bekks> dgarstang3: Chaneg the URLs and dont use Acquire::http::Proxy on the client.
[18:23] <dgarstang3> bekks: Hm
[18:23] <ljetibo> Hello! Can anyone help me with my network connectivity issues. I was connected to a wireless network before and it worked fine, then my ISP changed the rules and after I connected to wireless I had to connect via the pppoe protocol, I used sudo ppoeconf, followed the tutorial and set that up.
[18:23] <ljetibo> 2 days ago I log into ubuntu again, and my network icon is now missing, running nm-applet returns an error: "couldn't initialize NMClient". I cannot find the network manager in dash home either. I am currently on a PC and don't know what to do, at all, help appreciated
[18:23] <bekks> dgarstang3: Thats how it works for me.
[18:24] <dgarstang3> bekks: spose that should work in theory. I was told yesterday I didn't need to change the client url's at all, and that seemed to work for sources.list, but custom repo's in sources.list.d still bypass proxy. I'll give that a try
[18:24] <daniel891> if I replace my new /etc file with my old /etc folder, is it going to work?
[18:24] <iter> daniel891: what's your goal
[18:25] <bekks> dgarstang3: It works in real life. You just have to change all repo URLs.
[18:25] <daniel891> iter: I just want to have the same system I have right now but on a new partition.
[18:25] <dgarstang3> bekks: k
[18:25] <iter> daniel891: why not just clone the partition over
[18:25] <bekks> daniel891: Why dont you copy/clone the entire system?
[18:27] <daniel891> iter bekks is any guide for that? I found a couple but they seem old
[18:27] <iter> there are lots of ways to clone a partition
[18:28] <iter> will you be booting from the new disk/partition
[18:29] <daniel891> iter:I think the boot is in the old disk, I'm not sure.
[18:29] <Smokey> hi all
[18:29] <iter> is the system booted up right now
[18:30] <daniel891> iter:I'm on windows right now, it have his own partition. Should I be on ubuntu?
[18:30] <iter> lets figure out what you have right now first
[18:31] <iter> 2 disks, one with windows/ubuntu and one with some data
[18:31] <daniel891> no, I have 3
[18:31] <Smokey> can someone help me, with what i think is a routing problem on a vps ?
[18:31] <iter> can you please describe what you have
[18:32] <daniel891> The first have only windows and windows apps. The second have a swap partition, 2 ext4 partitions and 1 ntfs partition. The other disk only have 1 NTFS partition.
[18:33] <iter> ok, and what do you want it to look like when you are done
[18:34] <ljetibo> Hello! Can anyone help me with my network connectivity issues. I was connected to a wireless network before and it worked fine, then my ISP changed the rules and after I connected to wireless I had to connect via the pppoe protocol, I used sudo ppoeconf, followed the tutorial and set that up.
[18:34] <ljetibo>  2 days ago I log into ubuntu again, and my network icon is now missing, running nm-applet returns an error: "couldn't initialize NMClient". I cannot find the network manager in dash home either. I am currently on a PC and don't know what to do, at all, help appreciated
[18:34] <Smokey> I have a vps with two public ip's eth0 and eth0:0. only eth0 is publicly reachable
[18:35] <iter> Smokey: pastebin 'sudo ifconfig -a && netstat -nr'
[18:35] <locoloco> Anyone know of an Ubuntu-centric workflow to combine/layer two PDFs onto one another? Basically, want to print a Gnumeric spreadsheet onto a PDF stationary.
[18:35] <daniel891> iter, I want the 3rd disk to have the same as the 2nd disk. 2ext4 partitions, 1 swap and 1 NTFS.
[18:36] <Tai> locoloco perhaps ghostscript?
[18:36] <ohayo> does any body have an idea how to install kali-menu in ubuntu ???
[18:36] <locoloco> Tai: any leads? How would I go about that operation?
[18:37] <Smokey> http://pastebin.com/hp8KM6qD
[18:37] <ohayo> does any body have an idea how to install kali-menu in ubuntu ???
[18:37] <Smokey> thanks for looking into it...
[18:38] <ohayo> ?????
[18:38] <yacc> locoloco: well, xournal and friends all rely on rendering the PDF as an image, plus xournal as such would have an issue with the gnumeric output.
[18:38] <OerHeks> ohayo, kali is not in our repository's
[18:38] <xanux> what is a kal?
[18:38] <xanux> kali*
[18:38] <yacc> locoloco: can you live with converting the text in the PDF to an Image?
[18:38] <bekks> xanux: Kali is a linux distribution.
[18:38] <xanux> ohhh that
 yes but am trying to install it(s tools in my ubuntu
[18:39] <iter> daniel891: do you have enough free disk to clean off disk 3?
[18:39] <locoloco> yacc: for general invoicing, letters, estimates etc. I guess the quality wouldn't suffer too much
[18:40] <daniel891> yes
[18:40] <ohayo> i searched and i found this http://www.kalilinux.net/community/threads/add-kali-menu-to-other-distro-ubuntu.603/
[18:40] <iter> daniel891: you could backup all data on disk 3, then clone the entire disk 2 to disk 3
[18:40] <daniel891> iter:yes
[18:40] <Tai> say for the kali question, have you tried ppa://wagungs/kali-linux ?
[18:40] <Smokey> http://pastebin.com/pyGp4FHQ
[18:40] <iter> daniel891: to clone disk 2 to disk 3 you can use clonezilla-live
[18:40] <yacc> locoloco: actually for invoicing it would make falsifying the invoice harder (not hard, harder, with text there are tools where you can just replace the parameters of the PDF operators)
  NO How ??
[18:41] <iter> Smokey: I don't see eth0:0 in there at all
[18:41] <Tai> oh! You go to terminal and type the following:
[18:41] <daniel891> iter: no sorry, i have free space on 3rd disk to create new partitions, but I don't have any other disk where I can backup the data on the disk.
[18:41] <Tai> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wagungs/kali-linux
[18:41] <Smokey> i've also put my net interface config up
[18:41] <Tai> then sudo apt-get update
[18:42] <Tai> then all of the kali tools should be available to install
[18:42] <iter> Smokey: your 2nd paste has eth0 and eth1 not eth0 and eth0:0
[18:42] <iter> Smokey: is that correct?
[18:42] <Smokey> my bad, that's why it's not showing
 can i find thhem in software center ???
[18:42] <Smokey> that's since my last reboot
[18:42] <Smokey> I've been trying everything
[18:43] <Tai> you will be after you do that
[18:43] <k1l> Tai: ohayo be aware that there is no support for 3rd party packages from PPAs
[18:43] <Tai> oh yeah, sorry, forgot to mention that
[18:43] <locoloco> yacc: you've got a point there. Thanks for the tip! I'll give it a try. Meantime, hoping Inkscape will add feature to work spreadsheet data.
[18:43] <Smokey> I'll re do the pastebin again in a min
[18:43] <Tai> also, no one is liable for anything that's in there
[18:43] <iter> Smokey: you have only one physical network interface right
[18:43] <Smokey> rebooting
[18:44] <Smokey> it's a vps with only one 'virtual' interface
[18:44] <ohayo> OK thanks a lot
[18:44] <ljetibo> Hello! Can anyone help me with my network connectivity issues. I was connected to a wireless network before and it worked fine, then my ISP changed the rules and after I connected to wireless I had to connect via the pppoe protocol, I used sudo ppoeconf, followed the tutorial and set that up.
[18:44] <ljetibo>  2 days ago I log into ubuntu again, and my network icon is now missing, running nm-applet returns an error: "couldn't initialize NMClient". I cannot find the network manager in dash home either. I am currently on a PC and don't know what to do, at all, help appreciated
[18:45] <iter> Smokey: sounds good, so your OS only has one NIC as far as it knows, so you'll be using eth0 and eth0:0
[18:45] <Smokey> http://pastebin.com/ih3yQ3nV
[18:45] <Smokey> yes, that's correct
[18:45] <Smokey> re did the pastebin
[18:46] <yacc> locoloco: well, pdfsam might do (or not) what you want.
[18:46] <iter> Smokey: you can only have one default gateway
[18:47] <Smokey> yes, I've been reading that alot today.....
[18:47] <Smokey> one is commented out
[18:47] <iter> Smokey: currently you have two, so you should comment out the gateway line in eth0:0 and do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:47] <Smokey> it would not boot otherwise
[18:47] <AmbiguousOutlier> I'm running virtualbox on a headless server using VBoxHeadless and then running RemoteBox on my client, when I click Guest Display I get "the remote display server for this guest is not running." How do I enable it?
[18:48] <yacc> locoloco: pdftk can apply a background watermark => that's exactly what you want.
[18:48] <Guest6234> Is it possible for one of you to get someone over in the AntiX channel for me
[18:48] <Smokey> my last pastebin show's only one default gateway
[18:48] <iter> Smokey: can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces with the latest version
[18:49] <yacc> locoloco: it's only a cmdline tool, so your happyness might vary, for me I like my document workflow as cmdline/scriptable as possible :)
[18:49] <Smokey> http://pastebin.com/8ysxYGps
[18:50] <kat_> Now I'm back as kat. Just needed some help with AntiX. How can I get someone to help me over there in that channel?
[18:50] <distortedvoice> I have a script that runs a counterstike server. This script wont run as root though. I cd to the dir and execute that script with an init script. What do I need to include in my init script to run as a different user?
[18:50] <iter> Smokey: ok, let's do sudo route del default gw 5.157.82.0 to remove that 2nd one
[18:50] <Smokey> with two gateway's a reboot waits 2 minutes to bring up network which is not working out
[18:50] <Synthead> is there an official package for the nvidia-331 driver?
[18:51] <Smokey> SIOCDELRT: No such process
[18:51] <iter> Smokey: ok I'm an id10t totally misread that, you currently only have one gw which is OK
[18:52] <Smokey> ok, that's good to hear ;D
[18:52] <Smokey> is the problem that traffic needs to be routed from and to eth0:0 for it to be reachable
[18:52] <ljetibo> Can I reinstall network manager without internet connection? Would that reset current network setup and give me a clean slate?
[18:53] <locoloco> yacc: pdfsam and pdftk rather large javablobs but might just do the trick.
[18:55] <Coolmario> Hi
[18:55] <yacc> locoloco: I know, that sounds cynic, but a newish i7 quad, >16GB RAM plus a quick and big SSD make even Eclipse somehow useable :)
[18:55] <iter> Smokey: well your VSP provider should be routing packets destined for 5.157.82.80 to your interface appropriately
[18:55] <Coolmario> How do i pervent overheating on an acer aspire 5517 is there a thing i can install to control the fan speeds to make them go faster to pervent overheating?
[18:56] <locoloco> yacc: definately prefer cmdline. Looks like pdftk might just do the trick!
[18:56] <iter> Smokey: do you have console access to the vps? can we try switching the IPs
[18:56] <Smokey> yea we can
[18:56] <Smokey> but won't this effect postfix and courier and stuff
[18:56] <Coolmario> anybody?
[18:57] <iter> Smokey: well this is a test to see if we can route from outside to your VPS' 2nd IP
[18:57] <bekks> Smokey: It will affect entire connectivity.
[18:57] <maysara> Hello, I've a weird problem. the bluetooth doesn't work unless I started up the other system I've on my computer. please help
[18:57] <iter> Smokey: swap eth0 and eth0:0 in /etc/network/interfaces and do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:57] <Smokey> ok, so in /etc/network/interfaces swap out ip's for eth0 and eth0:0
[18:57] <Smokey> ?
[18:57] <bekks> Coolmario: If it is overheating, you should clean it. By design, a clean fan is sufficient to cool down the system properly.
[18:57] <ljetibo> Coolmario: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed but I'd recommend that before anyhting you go to a PC shot to get your PC/laptop cleaned it it's overheating
[18:57] <iter> Smokey: do that from console
[18:58] <Smokey> ok, back in a sec
[18:58] <locoloco> yacc: running barebones ARM setup here based on Hardkernel's Odroid XU platform [ http://hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G137510300620 ]
[18:58] <Coolmario> bekks the fan is clean
[18:58] <iter> Smokey: because you will probably lose net connection to the vps doing that
[18:58] <Coolmario> Its an acer aspire 5517 machine it had acer power mangement install back when it was running win7
[18:58] <jab3z> Hello! I cannot open telnet console. When I'm passing telnet localhost 6023 insted of getting "Connected to localhost \n >>>" I'm getting "Connected to localhost \n Escape character is '^]'.
[18:59] <jab3z> What I have to do to get in place ">>>"?
[18:59] <Coolmario> the process is amd athlon tf-20 and the graphics is ati radeon hd 3200
[18:59] <Smokey> I don't think network restarting is working, prob needs a reboot ?
[19:00] <yacc> locoloco: well, 2GB RAM. Guess that would enough if you swap out the Linux kernel.
[19:00] <yacc> locoloco: :-P
[19:00] <iter> Smokey: do ifconfig -a again and take a look
[19:00] <ljetibo> coolmario: I have acer, and even acer says not to use Acer update because it's obsolete, I'll bet you a beer that all it needs is a good clean. Unless of course you've made some adjustments yourself.
[19:00] <iter> Smokey: did the interfaces swap?
[19:00] <Okcel> I needed to update the e1000e module (intel ethernet device driver) on Ubuntu server 12.04.4.  I did a make install, rmmod e1000e, modprobe e1000e.  lshw -C network shows the proper driver.  However, when I restart the machine it's still using the older version.  Both the new and old version have the same name, is there a way I can load the new version automatically on startup?
[19:00] <Smokey> yes
[19:01] <Coolmario> ljetibo i recently have cleaned the computer though lol
[19:01] <Smokey> http://pastebin.com/1mQkv0YJ
[19:01] <iter> Smokey: ok so 80.58 is still available and 82.80 is still unavailable
[19:01] <maysara> Hello, I've a weird problem. the bluetooth doesn't work unless I started up the other system I've on my computer. please help
[19:01] <Smokey> I'll reboot
[19:02] <iter> Smokey: yeah that new paste, they didn't swap
[19:02] <jab3z> anyone? :(
[19:02] <Coolmario> ljetibo i am currently on a different newer pc as of right now and gateway live updater works just fine it shows a few updates in it lol I love winodws 8 :3
[19:03] <Smokey> http://pastebin.com/BzEzznbX
[19:03] <Smokey> but
[19:03] <Smokey> I can ssh through hostname
[19:03] <Smokey> which is bound to the old eth0 address
[19:04] <yacc> locoloco: somehow don't think that this thing will be running Ubuntu that quickly, ...
[19:04] <Smokey> so with swaped ip's it is working :S
[19:04] <iter> Smokey: right so swapping the interfaces didn't break anything
[19:04] <ljetibo> Coolmario: did you clean it yourself? did you take out the processor, did you change your heat sink or the fan to a retail one, how old is it? oh sory, missread acer for asus
[19:04] <ljetibo> Hello! Can anyone help me with my network connectivity issues. I was connected to a wireless network before and it worked fine, then my ISP changed the rules and after I connected to wireless I had to connect via the pppoe protocol, I used sudo ppoeconf, followed the tutorial and set that up.
[19:04] <iter> Smokey: it appears that traffic destined for 82.80 is not making it to your VPS
[19:04] <ljetibo> 2 days ago I log into ubuntu again, and my network icon is now missing, running nm-applet returns an error: "couldn't initialize NMClient". I cannot find the network manager in dash home either. I am currently on a PC and don't know what to do, at all, help appreciated
[19:04] <iter> Smokey: I would open a ticket with your VPS provider and ask them to check it
[19:04] <Smokey> I do not have sla 2 support
[19:04] <Smokey> but I had a tech look into it today
[19:04] <Coolmario> ljetibo no i didn't do it myself i took it to a repair shop place to have it cleaned :)
[19:05] <Smokey> and they told me every thing should be working
[19:06] <Smokey> iter: thank you so much for looking into it...
[19:06] <ljetibo> Coolmario: except a malfunctioning fan, the only reason that comes to mind would be that they didn't place it back snugly or they cheaped out on the paste, I would suggest you take it back to the shop
[19:06] <iter> Smokey: you can try thig
[19:07] <iter> Smokey: remove the working IP entirely, configure it with only the non working IP and its gateway
[19:07] <AmbiguousOutlier> I'm running virtualbox on a headless server using VBoxHeadless and then running RemoteBox on my client, when I click Guest Display I get "the remote display server for this guest is not running." How do I enable it?
[19:07] <Coolmario> ljetibo the repair shop i took it to is one of the best ones around here :P
[19:07] <iter> Smokey: at that point you should be offline and can go back to the VPS provider and tell them it's offline
[19:07] <Coolmario> they don't cheap out on anything they use the best of the best
[19:07] <Smokey> I will try
[19:07] <Smokey> thanks
[19:07] <locoloco> yacc: hahaha, surprisingly, it's quite a capable little machine. Running 12.04 (mounting a 2TB ext4 HDD for /home separately over USB3). Won't do fun stuff (high-def video, games etc.) but as a dev rig or for general research, admin work, it's perfect.
[19:09] <ljetibo> Coolmario: that's a vague description, I do believe they did, and because they're the best of best I'm sure they'll be happy to take it back for another look, software fixing a hardware problem can only end in a disaster. Sry I couldn't be of more help, the link I provided should have more than suffiecient information on how to change fan speeds if it's supported
[19:09] <ljetibo> Can I get any directions oh how to reinnstall network manager without an internet connection
[19:10] <jab3z> really no one knows how to run a telnet console?
[19:10] <Pici> jab3z: is something running that would provide a console interface on port 6023?
[19:11] <iter> he's connected if he gets "Connected to localhost"
[19:11] <jab3z> yes, i'm running a spider. yesterday works just fine...
[19:11] <iter> jab3z: if you hit enter do you get a prompt?
[19:12] <jab3z> yes, i get a prompt. it's like an empty page. but anything i'm typing and hit enter i get no response
[19:12] <jab3z> i can't even close it with ^]. just by pressing X button
[19:12] <iter> jab3z: do you see what you type?
[19:12] <jab3z> yes
[19:13] <Pici> jab3z: it sounds like whatever you think is running on port 6023 isn't responding
[19:13] <yacc> locoloco: yeah, but they don't mention anything but Android, anyway I've got new hardware last month, don't think that the purse string holder will allow for more toys, ...
[19:13] <jab3z> aha. i'll try a restart
[19:13] <iter> jab3z: try to restart your spider process
[19:14] <jab3z> thx
[19:14] <jab3z> thx iter and Pici
[19:15] <ljetibo> Hello! I was connected to a wireless network before and it worked fine, then my ISP changed the rules, after wireless I had to connect via the pppoe protocol, I used sudo ppoeconf, followed the tutorial and set that up, worked.
[19:15] <ljetibo> 2 days ago I log into ubuntu again, and my network icon is now missing, running nm-applet returns an error: "couldn't initialize NMClient". I cannot find the network manager in dash home either. I am currently on a PC and don't know what to do, at all, is it possible to reinstall the entire network manager (without net access), help appreciated
[19:15] <ljetibo> saaaave me~ :D
[19:17] <usr13> ljetibo: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[19:17] <ljetibo> 12.04 LTS
[19:17] <usr13> ljetibo: I'm pretty sure you can just fix what you have....
[19:18] <ljetibo> usr13: I would really like that
[19:18] <usr13> ljetibo: Re-installing applications don't do much in the first place.
[19:18] <jackbrown> hi there is there anyone that has experience with VNC ?
[19:19] <bekks> !anyone | jackbrown
[19:19] <usr13> ljetibo: (...maybe it does in MS-Windows, but not here... ;)
[19:19] <ljetibo> usr13: but don't know anything else, tried to follow some of the solutions I found on ask ubuntu, super user etc, none of it really worked
[19:20] <usr13> ljetibo: We can only give you Ubuntu related advise, I don't think we can fix your network issue.  If you have specific questions we can give answers to, fire away...
[19:20] <compdoc> jackbrown, a little
[19:21] <usr13> !pppoe | ljetibo
[19:21] <jackbrown> compdoc: i need to stream a remote microphone through VNC  do you know how to do that?
[19:21] <compdoc> jackbrown, no, I dont use sound for vnc
[19:21] <yacc> locoloco: for development it misses memory and additional screen connectors.
[19:21] <jackbrown> compdoc: do you know if there is a way to do that?
[19:22] <jackbrown> Does anyone know if there is a way to stream the microphone on a remote LAN computer ? (for example via VNC)
[19:22] <yacc> jackbrown: afaik VNC does not support audio.
[19:22] <compdoc> jackbrown, no, unfortunately, because I would love to have a mic in the backyard to go with my ip cam
[19:22] <iter> jackbrown: use teamviewer?
[19:22] <jackbrown> yacc: is there another way to stream audio ?
[19:23] <yacc> jackbrown: OTOH some of the Linux Audio output systems like pulse are network capable, at least in theory.
[19:23] <yacc> jackbrown: RDP?
[19:23] <jackbrown> yacc: RDP ?
[19:23] <compdoc> RDP can stream video and audio, but I dont know how
[19:23] <ljetibo> ubottu: I do not need that, I can't start nm-applet (the default network manager for ubuntu), my network connection icon on the top left is missing and I can't even connect to internet via cable, dual boot everything works fine on win7 so I know it's not hardware, it worked fine for months with pppoe over wlan and then died 2 days ago
[19:23] <jackbrown> yacc: anyway i can access even with SSH shell to my LAN computer
[19:23] <ljetibo> well, now I feel dumb...
[19:24] <yacc> jackbrown: what is what you are trying to do?
[19:25] <jackbrown> yacc: I just need to stream a microphone on a remote computer on my home lan
[19:25] <usr13> ljetibo: Was nm-applet running before?
[19:25] <iter> jackbrown: do you need video too? can you use vlc?
[19:25] <iter> jackbrown: or teamviewer
[19:25] <jackbrown> iter: I just need audio
[19:25] <yacc> jackbrown: well, pulse (if setup correctly and that will be a PITA) should be capable of doing that.
[19:26] <jackbrown> yacc: where can I find a guide to set up pulse  ?
[19:26] <iter> https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=91996
[19:26] <yacc> For sessions with audio, I seem to remember that NX supports audio too.
[19:28] <usr13> ljetibo: Did you *read* https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE ?
[19:28] <usr13> ljetibo: If not, please do so...
[19:29] <manlin> cd
[19:29] <ljetibo> usr13: currently doing so....
[19:29] <usr13> ljetibo: Ok, good  :)
[19:30] <jackbrown> yacc: I found a guide to stream audio could you help me please ?
[19:32] <NfNitLoop> I'm trying to do a VirtualBox Netinst of 10.04LTS x86(32bit) and ...  Well, nevermind, it seems to have sorted itself out. :p
[19:32] <Chiarot> Gooday all, having a quick permission issue, wondering if I could get a hand, I setup a Ubuntu Server as a local development server, I go apache, php, sql and all that good stuff installed & running no problems, now when I FTP in, the FTP account wasn't pointing to the correct directory, (fixed that) how-ever it doesn't have read / write access to that dir (fixed that as well) I had to reboot
[19:32] <Chiarot> the server real quick and no it doesn't have permission to do anything in that ftp directory, any ideas?, I've done ls -l and it shows 777 IS set for the files I need to over write, and it even shows my FTP user as owner... still wont let me change a darn thing :(
[19:32] <NfNitLoop> The installer hung for a couple minutes at downloading installer components.
[19:33] <NfNitLoop> Chiarot: SOunds like maybe your FTP software is preventing writes?  What error message(s) do you get?
[19:34] <Chiarot> Response:	250 Directory successfully changed.
[19:34] <Chiarot> Command:	RMD staff
[19:34] <Chiarot> Response:	550 Permission denied.
[19:34] <NfNitLoop> BTW, FTP is awful.  I'd suggest using SFTP or SCP instead.  (WinSCP is good if you need to do the Win->Linux thing.)
[19:34] <usr13> ljetibo:  Why isn't your router/modem doing the pppoe authentication?
[19:35] <NfNitLoop> Chiarot: Maybe staff isn't empty?
[19:35] <Chiarot> never set it up before :(
[19:35] <jackbrown> I need to find my soundcard /dev     Can anyone help me ?)[19:35] <NfNitLoop> Chiarot: If you have "ssh" installed, it's set up.
[19:35] <Chiarot> and that dir is empty... (checked it via dir on the server itself)
[19:35] <NfNitLoop> Chiarot: did you do ls -a to show hidden files?
[19:36] <Chiarot> don't believe I do, as I have the server asa a PC on my kvm ;)
[19:36] <Chiarot> and I did not , crap, one moment.
[19:37] <Chiarot> only shows . and .. :) so it is indeed empty
[19:37] <NfNitLoop> Hmm.
[19:37] <NfNitLoop> in the parent directory, what does `ls -ld .` show?
[19:38] <ljetibo> usr13: My ISP has a weird sense of humour, I am required to connect to a modem which is locked (I can't input username and password in it myself) and then open an dsl connection with my username and password. This of course means that only 1 machine can be connected on 1 username at a time. I don't think that we understand each other well though, I don't even have the network connection icon showing, I have no problems with configur
[19:38] <Chiarot> drwxrwxrwx 7 ftp root 4096 feb 19 13:24
[19:38] <ljetibo> usr13: I read that program is called nm-applet and that it has dissapeared for other, but they got it back by just writing nm-applet in terminal
[19:38] <ljetibo> usr13: when I write that in terminal, I get an error
[19:39] <ljetibo> usr13: and I couldn't find a similar problem to mine online
[19:40] <NfNitLoop> Chiarot: Hmmm.  Yeah, I'm stumped.
[19:40] <NfNitLoop> Chiarot: Maybe check /var/log for FTP error messages?
[19:40] <ljetibo> https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQL5vx9OPrq6jPApRE8b5HwinotsU3Vmrf325e_SGN_oWrpsTSuPA I don't have that network connection icon at all, and can't start it with nm-applet
[19:40] <NfNitLoop> NfNitLoop: Have to get back to my real job.  Good luck!  :)
[19:41] <Chiarot> I shall look into this WinSCP thing, see if that works out for me :), back to google I go to figure out how to set that up in ubuntu server :D
[19:41] <NfNitLoop> Chiarot: "sudo apt-get install ssh".
[19:41] <NfNitLoop> It's nice because it's pretty much set up out of the box. :D
[19:41] <Donskoy> how do I change the name of my pc
[19:41] <locoloco> yacc: tested pdftk and pdfchain (gui)... works perfect adding a watermark type background image to any pdf printouts.
[19:42] <iter> Donskoy: "sudo echo newhostname > /etc/hostname && /etc/init.d/hostname restart"
[19:43] <iter> Donskoy: replace newhostname with what you want
[19:43] <bekks> that command will not work.
[19:43] <iter> why not?
[19:43] <bekks> echo newhostname | sudo tee /etc/hostname && sudo /etc/init.d/hostname restart
[19:43] <bekks> iter: Your command will not work because echo is sudo'ed but > isnt.
[19:44] <Chiarot> NfNitLoop: You my good sir need to take a break and have yourself a cold one!! worked great :) thanks!
[19:44] <iter> ah see that's what I get for not using sudo enough
[19:44] <iter> Donskoy: sudo -s
[19:44] <lattera> so I'm working on fixing some bugs related to compiling clamav on ubuntu 14.04 (I know, not released, yet)... what's the best way to do this check, but also link in -lm and -lpthread but only if we're on ubuntu 14.04? https://github.com/vrtadmin/clamav-devel/blob/master/configure.ac#L467-L470
[19:44] <rivstfo> hi everyone if someone help me i will appreciate http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2
[19:44] <iter> Donskoy: then "echo newhostname > /etc/hostname && /etc/init.d/hostname restart"
[19:45] <rivstfo> help me please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2
[19:45] <bekks> iter: No.
[19:46] <iter> bekks: that's odd, seems to work fine here
[19:46] <iter> or you just hate running anything as root ever?
[19:46] <bekks> iter: It works doesnt mean it's a good solution ;)
[19:46] <bekks> iter: you dont need sudo -s for changing the hostname.
[19:46] <iter> do you need sudo?
[19:46] <rivstfo> help me pleasee http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2
[19:46] <iter> let me answer that for you
[19:47] <iter> yes
[19:47] <iter> so does it matter sudo -s vs sudo tee, other than pedantry?
[19:47] <lvleph> I am getting some unmet dependency problems while using autoremove, could someone help me figure out what is going on. Here is the output from apt-get http://pastebin.com/t3U8vG4X
[19:47] <iter> no
[19:47] <usr13> !nomodeset | iter
[19:48] <bekks> iter: Thats's your point of view, and - in addition - your keyboard is issueing "enter" every few words.
[19:48] <rivstfo> neeed helppp http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2
[19:48] <usr13> rivstfo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2
[19:48] <usr13> !nomodeset | rivstfo
[19:48] <Beldar> rivstfo, Are you ricardo12? this is the black screen issue? Stating this is the way the channel works.
[19:49] <iter> bekks: actually the "point of view" here is yours, wherin you say < bekks> iter: No. because you have your panties in a bunch over using sudo -s
[19:49] <iter> bekks: so lets agree to disagree and move on to productive things
[19:49] <bekks> iter: Well, if you want to take this discussion to my underwear, please stop it in here and join #ubuntu-offtopic. Thank you.
[19:49] <Beldar> lol
[19:49] <Guest85825> hello guys
[19:50] <usr13> iter: (This is not the place for a philosophical debate.)
[19:51] <Beldar> iter, dissing a experienced user here or anyone cuts down on who will even help you.
[19:51] <lvleph> I am getting some unmet dependency problems while using autoremove, could someone help me figure out what is going on. Here is the output from apt-get http://pastebin.com/t3U8vG4X
[19:52] <ikonia> lvleph: looks like it's conflicting with something from another repo
[19:52] <usr13> lvleph: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:52]  * iter doesn't feed trolls and is here to help others not look for assistance 
[19:52] <ikonia> iter: then just be quiet instead of making /me statements
[19:53] <usr13> lvleph: Could be a ppa issue, (considering what ikonia said).
[19:53] <lvleph> usr13, unfortunately I have tried that
[19:53] <lvleph> So, disable all ppas?
[19:53] <kernellinux> Greetings all!
[19:53] <kernellinux> Anyone here using the Google Pixel?
[19:53] <ikonia> looking at some of the versions in that pastebin, looks like a ppa/external repo
[19:54] <ljetibo> Fixed it! Special thanks to usr13 for the moral support. Any interest in how I did it?
[19:54] <lvleph> usr13, actually I have no ppa enabled
[19:55] <lvleph> I upgraded and so they were all disabled.
[19:55] <ikonia> lvleph: yes, but you've used them before ?
[19:55] <lvleph> yes
[19:55] <ikonia> lvleph: they have been enabled before on this system ?
[19:55] <ikonia> lvleph: right, so disabling doesn't change what has already been installed
[19:55] <ikonia> lvleph: so the conflict will be with software that you've already install from them
[19:56] <lvleph> And I am trying to remove it so why I am getting a conflict is baffling
[19:56] <lvleph> normally you get the conflict on install not removal, ikonia
[19:56] <ikonia> lvleph: because you've probably had the conflict with packages that either depend or have been superceeded by your PPA packages
[19:57] <lvleph> and so what am I to do, because I can't even seem to figure out where the conflict is
[19:59] <ernetas> Hey guys
[19:59] <ernetas> http://pastebin.com/aS0cTBvG - what could be an explanation for such candidate?
[20:00] <ernetas> What do the triple stars mean? Installed?
[20:00] <ikonia> lvleph: it says the conflicts in the pastebin
[20:01] <ominae> what is the current stable kernel for 13.10?
[20:01] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[20:01] <ominae> thanks
[20:01] <ikonia> there you go 3.11.0.17.18
[20:02] <ominae> thank you
[20:02] <ominae> !info linux-image
[20:02] <usr13> lvleph: You might try using dpkg-reconfigure
[20:02] <hewhomust> ominae: uname -r to find your kernel version
[20:03] <usr13> lvleph: dpkg-reconfigure -a
[20:03] <OerHeks> ernetas, likely you added a repo > http://www.percona.com/doc/percona-server/5.5/installation/apt_repo.html which is not supported here
[20:03] <usr13> lvleph: Or specificall on those 4 packages?
[20:03] <lvleph> specificall? usr13
[20:04] <usr13> lvleph: dpkg-reconfigure libatk-wrapper-java
[20:04] <usr13> ... and then the other 33
[20:04] <usr13> 3 not 33
[20:04] <ernetas> OerHeks: not 5.5, but yes. I understand that it's not supported. Anyways, fixed now.
[20:04] <usr13> lvleph: But try -a first
[20:04] <lvleph> yeah running -a now
[20:04] <usr13> ok
[20:07] <usr13> lvleph: You could also try apt-get clean  or autoclean
[20:08] <lvleph> usr13, yeah I had already tried clean and autoclean
[20:08] <usr13> lvleph: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[20:08] <ominae> any one know where i can d/l kernel 3.11.0.17.18. I do see it on http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[20:09] <ominae> *dont see it
[20:11] <Arceye> DOes anyone know who it was that was helping me over the weekend while I had issues with my gfx car ?
[20:11] <Arceye> card*
[20:12] <lvleph> usr13, none of this seemed to work
[20:13] <howy> i was wondering what's the difference between ubuntu and lubuntu and which one is better ???
[20:13] <Beldar> ominae, In general what you need is not supported here, however an argument as to why you need this is to your benefit. With details on your release....etc
[20:13] <usr13> lvleph: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:13] <Arceye> howy, as far as I am aware * I am a linux newbie ) they are both the same with different front ends
[20:14] <lvleph> dist-upgrade should work too usr13?
[20:14] <ominae> Beldar: 13.10 - 3.14 was installed on a machine and now it is having problems. I want to roll it back to the latest stable kernel for 13.10
[20:15] <Beldar> ominae, Were the previous kernels removed?
[20:15] <ominae> yep
[20:15] <usr13> lvleph: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[20:15] <Beldar> ominae, Ah, that is a good reason, I'm not up on kernel installs so someone can help.
[20:16] <lattera> so in ubuntu, libcheck links fine if I use clang, but not if I use gcc
[20:17] <lattera> because screw consistency
[20:17] <lvleph> usr13, and then?
[20:17] <lvleph> I am guessing purge all ppas?
[20:17] <usr13> howy: If better to you means more effecient, (as in using less system resources to run), then lubunt or xubuntu is a good choice for you.
[20:17] <usr13> lvleph: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[20:18] <DrGrov> Hello hello
[20:18] <nomad__> anyone here have any experience with xfreerdp on ubuntu?
[20:18] <DrGrov> Running 13.10 64-bit here with the OS on a 60 GB SSD. I can not seem to get TRIM support enabled even though I read through quiet a few instructions on how to get it to work by default at startup.
[20:19] <DrGrov> My OS feels a bit "sluggish" from time to time, a minor but clear downgrade to what it was performing once it was new.
[20:19] <Beldar> DrGrov, You want a cron? or just at start up?
[20:19] <Beldar> you can run it from the cli
[20:20] <DrGrov> Beldar: That is a good question, what is your opinion on that?
[20:20] <DrGrov> Beldar: What would be better?
[20:20] <Beldar> DrGrov, I have 4 OS on my 256 SSD, I reboot often, so I have it as the last command after a update/upgrade
[20:21] <usr13> nomad__: http://www.freerdp.com/
[20:21] <Beldar> I use apt and run update/upgrade everyday pretty much DrGrov
[20:21] <DrGrov> Beldar: I do the updates as well on a daily basis, I always check on startup if there is anything that needs to be upgraded.
[20:22] <Beldar> DrGrov, here is the command I run it includes the daily of the dev. sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-fast update ; sudo apt-fast -y dist-upgrade ; dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages ; zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync ; sudo fstrim -v /
[20:23] <Beldar> and lists my installed packages
[20:23] <Beldar> I have no seperate home as well
[20:23] <DrGrov> Beldar: Okay, so can I do this trimming from a terminal and get it automatically in as a cron at startup?
[20:24] <Beldar> DrGrov, A cron will run it as you set it up, I'm not sure on a startup run, I just use the update to trim myself.
[20:25] <John_John_> i am new to linux. i have downloaded google chrome as a .deb from the official site. now how do i install this ?
[20:25] <DrGrov> Beldar: Okay. I kind of would like it to do it automatically at startup or shortly there after. Somewhere before I get the login screen.
[20:26] <Beldar> DrGrov, this is the link I use to set up my rim as well. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[20:26] <whereo> How to use ubuntu as root like backtrack   ???
[20:26] <koubry02> Hi eveyone !
[20:26] <Beldar> trim*
[20:26] <ikonia> whereo: you don't
[20:26] <DrGrov> Beldar: Ok, thank you. Will look into that.
[20:26] <whereo>  <ikonia> WHy ???
[20:26] <justit> hello, have the some problem: connection editor(kde) don't save new just created connections. Just empty after save.
[20:26] <ikonia> whereo: because that's not how the ubuntu security model is setup
[20:26] <justit> Does anybody know what is the problem?
 Do you mean there is no way ??
[20:27] <iter> justit: permissions?
[20:27] <iter> whereo: there's a way of course
[20:27] <koubry02> Guys, i need a little help, i bought a domain name and i want to link to my machine to use like a hostname
[20:27] <ikonia> whereo: I mean you're not meant to
[20:27] <whereo>  <iter> How
[20:27] <iter> whereo: sudo passwd root
[20:27] <nomad__> usr13: I posted a message on #freerdp, but I don't think anyone uses that channel anymore, which is why I posted here after having no success on their website.
[20:27] <ikonia> iter: please don't push that
[20:27] <ikonia> iter: it's locked account for a reason
[20:28] <Beldar> DrGrov, Cool, Trim can be run at start up I suspect, I would check if that is the best time is all, and really how often it may be needed, and be careful with a "cause" and effect on your sluggish effect
[20:28] <darkgray> Hello, hiyo. I'd like to use DHCP on eth0 but also use google's DHCP servers primarily. How do I configure my machine to put 8.8.8.8 above the DHCP provided DNS servers?
[20:28] <Beldar> In other words don't assume a cause is all
[20:28] <rivstfo> need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=
[20:28] <darkgray> err
[20:28] <ikonia> darkgray: googles dhcp servers ?
[20:28] <darkgray> DNS servers, not DHCP.
[20:28] <Donskoy> iter, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6961874/
[20:29] <ikonia> darkgray: so what's the problem
 but this is for changing password  isn it ??
[20:29] <ikonia> rivstfo: please just post your question, not links
[20:29] <jpds> Google's DHCP servers.
[20:29] <iter> darkgray: edit /etc/resolv.conf and put nameserver 8.8.8.8 at the top
[20:29] <ikonia> iter: that will get over written
[20:29] <darkgray> iter: But ... doesn't it get overwr--
[20:29] <ikonia> iter: no no no
[20:29] <Beldar> rivstfo, state the actual issue.
[20:29] <DrGrov> Beldar: True, but the computer is so new so there is not other possibility. Hardware is not the issue.
[20:29] <ikonia> darkgray: just set the dns servers offered by your dhcp server to googles
[20:29] <ikonia> darkgray: you own the dhcp server, so you can tell it to push out what you want
[20:30] <rivstfo> i cant enter in my ubuntu and i cant change partition to reinstall my windows again.................
[20:30] <darkgray> I do?
 but this is for changing password  isn it ?? i want to login as root
[20:30] <Beldar> DrGrov, hmm could be swapping....etc many variables.
[20:30] <DrGrov> Beldar: Never seen it swapping at all. Not according to when checking with htop at least.
[20:30] <ikonia> darkgray: well, I assume you do, perhaps wrongly
[20:30] <Beldar> whereo, Ubuntu is not designed to run in root, you can mess up permissions doing it.
[20:31] <Arceye> rivstfo, if you boot from windows boot cd/dvd you can configure your partitions
[20:31] <darkgray> I have "iface eth0 inet dhcp\n\n\t dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" in my /etc/network/interfaces, but the DHCP-provided servers are put above google's in resolv.conf when it boots.
[20:31] <darkgray> I'd like google to have priority.
[20:31] <rivstfo> i used pen drive boot ... :(
[20:31] <juppi> hello, im trying to boot trisquel from a live usb stick but my bootloader doesn't allow any boot except the already existing ubuntu. how can I boot manually from the usb?
[20:31] <ikonia> darkgray: why are you putting it in the interfaces file
[20:31] <John_John_> guys ????
[20:31] <jpds> darkgray: Then that's not where you put the server settings.
[20:31] <ikonia> darkgray: network manager should control this by default
[20:31] <Donskoy> how do I remove the icon launchers
[20:31] <darkgray> Why would I want server settings?
[20:32] <John_John_> how do i install a .deb package ?
[20:32] <Beldar> DrGrov, Cool, I was just pointing out, which I think you are already using, a logical scientific method is all.
[20:32] <Arceye> rivstfo, for windows ?
[20:32] <jpds> darkgray: You go and edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf or NetworkManager.
[20:32] <dwarder> i just inserted a usb webcam into my linux box, dmesg says that it is recognized and it is using a driver, how do i get still images from it?
[20:32] <jpds> darkgray: And tweak the "prepend domain-name-servers" line.
[20:32] <darkgray> jpds: All right.
[20:32] <darkgray> (this is ubuntu server, so no ui)
[20:32] <darkgray> gui anyway.
[20:32] <ikonia> the simple solution would be to change the dns servers on the dhcp server so that everyone gets it
[20:32] <Beldar> juppi, Not supported here.
[20:33] <rivstfo> for ubuntu  now i cant even do updates cant enter in ubuntu and i cant change partitions to use my windows 7 again :(((((((((((
[20:33] <darkgray> ikonia: I'm not in charge of my ISP.
[20:33] <iter> lol
[20:33] <ikonia> darkgray: ah, so it's your ISP dhcp
[20:33] <iter> "the simple solution is to ask your ISP to update their DHCP"
[20:33] <DrGrov> Beldar: Yes, thanks for still letting me know that. It can be forgotten from time to time :)
[20:33] <boyan> hello dudes
[20:33] <iter> edit resolv.conf and make it immutable
[20:33] <ikonia> iter: no
[20:33] <jpds> iter: No.
[20:33] <ikonia> iter: how many times "no"
[20:33] <Beldar> juppi, They have a small channel #trisquel
[20:34] <iter> you all want to make it so complicated, he just wants to use goog dns
[20:34] <jpds> iter: Yes.
[20:34] <ikonia> iter: yes, and updating the dhclient.conf is the right way
[20:34] <jpds> iter: So have him fix it properly in dhclient.conf.
[20:34] <ikonia> iter: not breaking his system
[20:34] <juppi> I'm using ubuntu gnome 13.10 and i want to boot manually from usb via terminal or sth
[20:35] <darkgray> What's the format on dhclient.conf's prepend thing? Comma-separated? Spaces?
[20:35] <rivstfo> Arceye can u help mee???
[20:35] <iter> prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4;
[20:36] <darkgray> Thanks.
[20:36] <Arceye> I can't help you with the linux side ( I am a noob ) but, did you install the ubuntu to run as dua boot with windows ?
[20:37] <OerHeks> rivstfo, you cannot change partitions that are in use, boot live cd and use gparted to change partitions
[20:38] <rivstfo> i cant do that i just can do alt+f2 and write some commands
[20:38] <jhutchins> Arceye: There are usually so many conversations going on at once it's hard to track who's talking to who.  It helps to prepend the username.  Try typing the first three letters then hitting Tab.
[20:38] <Arceye> jhutchins,  I generally do, sorry just forgot
[20:38] <jhutchins> Arceye: np.
[20:39] <rivstfo> OerHeks: i cant do that what i only can do is ... use alt+f2 and write some commands
[20:39] <jhutchins> rivstfo: Look for a "terminal" in the applications menu; I think it's under "System".
[20:39] <Arceye> rivstfo,  do you have a ubuntu live cd?
[20:40] <rivstfo> Arceye: no only have pen drive bootable
[20:40] <jhutchins> rivstfo: You can also try Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a console login.
[20:40] <Beldar> rivstfo, Install gparted and take a screen shot put it in a imagebin of it so we can see the HD
[20:40] <Arceye> rivstfo, if you boot from the pen drive you should be able to get enough to run gparted
[20:40] <jhutchins> Beldar: He's not trying to alter his partitions, he's trying to get the system to boot back to windows.
[20:41] <rivstfo> dude enter in this site all of u want to help and u will understand my situation http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2
[20:41] <Beldar> jhutchins, Yeah really hard to tell at least for me what the issue is, a ton of discombobulated posts.
[20:42] <jhutchins> rivstfo: That's something about reinstalling ubuntu and getting a black screen.
[20:43] <Beldar> rivstfo, STOP posting links, that is not kosher here. State what the issue are one at a time, in the order of importance!!!
[20:44] <jhutchins> Beldar: If you go back to the first post it's him explaining the problem.  Links to forums and pastebins are kosher.
[20:45] <jhutchins> rivstfo: So is the system booting at all now?
[20:45] <Beldar> jhutchins, Even you question there last post, yes links are helpful when an organized manner is used.
[20:45] <Beldar> their*
[20:46] <rivstfo> Beldar: sorry but my problem its quite simple here dont need to spam my problem all over again just need someone help me...
[20:46] <Beldar> rivstfo, State it then
[20:47] <jorvis> Using openconnect via the network manager, it connects but doesn't seem to respect the "Additional DNS servers" I put in the configuration.  They aren't written to resolv.conf, though the search domain is.  Has anyone dealt with this?
[20:47] <rivstfo> jhutchins: bro i cant do reinstall because its just quite
[20:48] <rivstfo> Beldar: if u can help me i will appreciate http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2
[20:49] <Beldar> !nomodeset | rivstfo this was posted for your already
[20:49] <rivstfo> i tried nomodeset dont work!!!
[20:49] <Beldar> rivstfo, Then you should have stated that to the person who gave you that link to begin with or the channel.
[20:49] <mr-fool> I am trying to install the driver for the printer samsung ml-2165, and everything installed successfully and I added my printer int he printer setting but it only prints a page at a time, I can't print multiple pages
[20:50] <Beldar> !pt | rivstfo
[20:50] <mr-fool> anyone?
[20:51] <mr-fool> btw, so my old account on the ubuntu forum is deleted?
[20:51] <mr-fool> since they change the login to sso
[20:51] <Xuisce1> hi
[20:51] <agenteo> hi, I am on 12.04, installed postgres 9.1, removed from init.d, I am seeing the weird FATAL:  could not open file "pg_xlog/000000010000000000000001" (log file 0, segment 1): on a pg_ctl init -D folder. I am executing that not as the postgres user, if I am the postgres user the problem doesn't exist. I looked around but couldn't find the root cause of it, any idea? Thanks
[20:52] <mr-fool> I am trying to install the driver for the printer samsung ml-2165, and everything installed successfully and I added my printer int he printer setting but it only prints a page at a time, I can't print multiple pages
[20:52] <lvleph> usr13, it all came down to a package requiring a very specific libtiff
[20:53] <ricardooo> i enter in this chat again ?? damn
[20:53] <DwarfDefender> is it somehow possible to make single application use vpn connection? i wish all system be clear, however i want firefox to be shuffling data throught vpn, is that possible?
[20:53] <lvleph> usr13, I used sudo apt-get install libtiff5=4.0.2-4ubuntu3 and now things work
[20:53] <Jordan_U> DwarfDefender: Configure VPN settings within Firefox itself then.
[20:53] <Beldar> mr-fool, Your account is still there ask in #ubuntuforums is the driver you used from samsung or the ubuntu repos?
[20:54] <mr-fool> Beldar: try both already
[20:54] <Beldar> mr-fool, Have you done a restart after installing either?
[20:55] <mr-fool> Beldar: you have to?
[20:55] <justit> The other problem: i've added new connections with editor, but they are not in list of available connections. Network manager as root.: http://i.imgur.com/RJKMxjy.png
[20:55] <mr-fool> it did not prompt me to restart but I will give it a sec
[20:55] <Beldar> mr-fool, I have printing in ubuntu to at times need this is all, an easy check.
[20:55] <agenteo> sorted, the problem was I was pg_ctl on a samba share
[20:56] <gmachine_24> greetings earthings. I back up my install using tar - as in $sudo tar -cvpzf backup2.tar.gz . . . how would I change this so I would have the day/month/year in every file name - so that it would change every day? Thanks.
[20:57] <gigo1980> hi all. i have a problem with an softraid. it resync a very long time. how can i stop it ?
[20:57] <mr-fool> rstarted
[20:57] <mr-fool> still no goal
[20:58] <bekks> gigo1980: If you stop it, you have a broken raid.
[20:58] <gigo1980> if it is broken i have to resync it again
[20:58] <sd1074_> Hi all. I am trying to install 32bit libs on a 64bit ubuntu 12.04. $sudo apt-get install libicu48:i386 wants to remove a whole bunch of packages to proceed. I assume there is a conflict between 64 and 32 libs. How is that possible, and how to reslove it?
[20:58] <sd1074_> multiarch-support is installed
[20:58] <gmachine_24> OK, never mind. I found it. Thanks anyway.
[20:58] <gigo1980> at the moment it has the state resync 91% and will take 1 week to finish
[20:58] <sd1074_> other 32bit libs are installed
[21:00] <sd1074_> but some 32bit libs (like libicu48:i386) dont want to get installed
[21:00] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys how can I file proper bug reports when something such as cedarview tail graphic drivers fail to install on new kernel upgrades? I post on the forums but I think I am posting in the wrong sections, or not filing proper bug reports.
[21:00] <Ampelbein> sd1074_: I guess that library hasn't been modified for multiarch in 12.04
[21:01] <usr13> !bug | Psil0Cybin
[21:01] <jhutchins> Psil0Cybin: Are those drivers from Ubuntu, or are they from a third party?
[21:02] <sd1074_> Thanks for your reply, Ampelbein. Do you mean that 32bit libs for 64bit systems are different from 32bit libs for 32bit systems?
[21:02] <gigo1980> or is it posible to throtle the resync for all devices in the softraid
[21:02] <Diplomatico> Hello is it possible to make two partitions in a pen drive and install permanently Lubuntu in one of them?
[21:03] <usr13> Diplomatico: Yes
[21:03] <Beldar> Diplomatico, Sure
[21:03] <Ampelbein> sd1074_: No, but the library package has to be modified to allow coinstability of 32 and 64 bit libraries. For example a multiarch enabled library goes to /usr/lib/<ARCH-TRIPLET> instead of /usr/lib. This conversation has to be done manually.
[21:03] <Ampelbein> sd1074_: For icu, this has been done here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icu/4.8.1.1-12ubuntu1 - released in Saucy.
[21:03] <Ampelbein> sd1074_: (13.10)
[21:04] <sd1074_> I actually tried to manually copy the 32bit libs from another machine into a separate folder. After updateing LD_LIBRARY_PATH I was actually able to run the app.
[21:04] <rabbel> Hey guys ... I have a little question. I'm trying to do preseeding for Ubuntu Precise Server. I've already managed to do it this way (with debian of course): http://www.wallix.org/2011/11/02/automatic-installation-of-debian-squeeze-from-a-usb-flash-drive/ ... Is there a way to use the same method for Ubuntu? I've found the needed files for this here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media. I'm trying t
[21:04] <rabbel> It would be awesome if one of you guys push me in the right direction :)
[21:04] <Ampelbein> sd1074_: Well, yeah, that works. In a way. But can break hilariously when you upgrade to 14.04 ;)
[21:05] <sd1074_> Ampelbein, I cannot upgrade to a new ubuntu. We currently support our project on 12.04.
[21:05] <Diplomatico> Thank you usr13, Beldar.
[21:05] <Jordan_U> rabbel: Your first message was cut off at "I'm trying t". Also, #ubuntu-server may be more helpfule.
[21:06] <sd1074_> Is there any other way to work this problem around?
[21:06] <Jordan_U> s/le/l/
[21:06] <rabbel> Oh, lol, thanks Jordan_U :P 3 lines missing ...
[21:06] <sd1074_> except keeping those shared libs in a separate folder?
[21:06] <Ampelbein> sd1074_: You could look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/148072565/icu_4.8.1.1-12_4.8.1.1-12ubuntu1.diff.gz to see how this package got prepared for multiarch and adapt it for the version in 12.04. But that is kinda unsupported here.
[21:06] <mr-fool> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206567&p=12933947#post12933947
[21:06] <mr-fool> bump
[21:08] <sd1074_> Ampelbein, so, most likely the problem then  is that it just wants to install into the same dir s the 64bit version. Maybe I can just tell apt-get where to install it?
[21:08] <Jordan_U> sd1074_: You could install this app in a chroot.
[21:08] <ricardooo> i need everyones help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371&page=2
[21:08] <Jordan_U> ricardooo: Please at least provide a summary of your problem in-channel.
[21:09] <ricardooo> waiting for network configuration [problem] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371
[21:09] <sd1074_> Jordan_U, thanks, for the idea.
[21:09] <Jordan_U> sd1074_: You're welcome.
[21:11] <ricardooo> waiting for network configuration [problem] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371
[21:11] <riccardo_> Hi , I-m having issues with this command $ sudo efibootmgr -v
[21:11] <p30n> hey all, quick question: is it easy to get netflix working in ubuntu and more specifically in a xbmc interfaced ubntu? :)
[21:12] <riccardo_> I received this error fatal could-t open either sysfs or procfs directories for accessing EFI variables Try modprobe efivars as root
[21:12] <riccardo_> any idea how to fix?
[21:12] <xauth> riccardo_: efibootmgr works only if you've booted using efi.
[21:12] <Jordan_U> ricardooo: You probably aren't booted via UEFI. Are you booted via a LiveCD/USB or an installed system?
[21:13] <ricardooo> Jordan_U: yes via USB
[21:13] <riccardo_> I booted from Ubuntu 13.10 but win7 is corrupted
[21:13] <Jordan_U> ricardooo: How did you prepare the USB drive for booting?
[21:14] <ricardooo> Jordan_U: with some software to do that ...
[21:14] <Jordan_U> ricardooo: What software? What iso image did you use?
[21:14] <riccardo_> I tried to put more details here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206488&p=12933887#post12933887
[21:15] <ricardooo> Jordan_U: something called universall i use 13.10 iso man
[21:15] <bodhi_zazen> ricardooo: reboot, go to your BIOS, re-enable uefi (secure boot) and then reboot to your usb
[21:15] <Donskoy> iter, how do I change the hostname? I used your command but forgot what it was and now its newhostname
[21:16] <bodhi_zazen> Donskoy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9540/how-do-i-change-the-computer-name
[21:16] <Jordan_U> bodhi_zazen: UEFI != Secure boot, you can have UEFI without secure boot.
[21:16] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen: uefi? where is that???
[21:16] <bodhi_zazen> If you do not edit both files you will break sudo
[21:17] <Jordan_U> ricardooo: 32 or 64 bit?
[21:17] <ricardooo> Jordan_U: 64 bits
[21:17] <bodhi_zazen> ricardooo: it is a setting in your bios
[21:18] <bodhi_zazen> Jordan yes, but in the bios it is usually listed under secure boot
[21:18] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen: where i find that?? wich column
[21:18] <bodhi_zazen> depends on the bios, boot
[21:18] <Psil0Cybin> usr13, Thank you so much...What would be the next steps other than filing bugs? is there any steps in diagnosing video card issues when installing/upgrading new kernels that are recommended using sudo apt-get upgrade?
[21:18] <bodhi_zazen> ricardooo: looks like this - http://www.top-password.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/disable-UEFI.jpg
[21:19] <ponyofdeath> hi, I am trying to ship all logs to a tcp port for logstash with : *.* @@127.0.0.1:5544 in 34-logstash.conf. when i do a tcp dump i am not seeing any traffic on that port. any ideas?
[21:19] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: which video card drivers are you using?
[21:19] <Psil0Cybin> the issue is with my ascer aspire one, it using cedarview tail graphic, I do not have that laptop on me at the moment I guess I will pop in after with it ikonia but I can actually link you to the issue I posted on ubuntu forum]s
[21:20] <Psil0Cybin> because it has my jockey log
[21:20] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: which video card drivers are you using?
[21:20] <ikonia> oops
[21:20] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: are they from the official ubuntu repos or external sites/repos
[21:20] <Psil0Cybin> offical repos
[21:20] <riccardo_> I have these options BOOT mode  1- Legacy 2- Uefi Hybrid with CSM 3 - UEFI Native without CSM  .. ?
[21:20] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: ok, so they should load on kernel updates if they come from the official repos
[21:20] <bodhi_zazen> uefi with CSM
[21:20] <xauth> riccardo_: browse around this site for clarity on UEFI boot: http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/
[21:21] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen: i just have something like legacy in advanced options "legacy usb support" [enabled]
[21:21] <bodhi_zazen> ricardooo: you do not want legacy boot
[21:21] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia, this is my issue, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206432
[21:21] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen: so i need to put it disabled??
[21:21] <bodhi_zazen> you need uefi, lol
[21:21] <Psil0Cybin> It will not install the cedarview trailer driver with the new kernel anmd when I go to additional drivers, it says i can reinstall it but than it states it cannot install
[21:21] <Psil0Cybin> and to check my jockey log ikonia
[21:22] <xauth> uefi = bios the next generation.
[21:22] <justit> hi! I've added new vpn connections with editor, but they are not in list of available connections in network manager plugin. Network manager as root.
[21:22] <xauth> uefi can have compatibility support to boot as bios used to.
[21:22] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen: i dont have ur options in boot column dudee
[21:22] <Psil0Cybin> perhaps you can take a look at my post ikonia "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206432"
[21:22] <dgarstang3> Anyone using apt-cacher-ng?
[21:22] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: just reading it
[21:22] <xauth> that compatibility support is called Compatibility Support Mode - CSM.
[21:23] <bodhi_zazen> ricardooo: "riccardo_	I have these options BOOT mode 1- Legacy 2- Uefi Hybrid with CSM 3 - UEFI Native without CSM .. ?"
[21:23] <bodhi_zazen> you want option 2
[21:23] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: what version of ubuntu is it ?
[21:23] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04 LTS
[21:23] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen: man im another ricardo look the name lol
[21:23] <ricardooo> waiting for network configuration [problem] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371
[21:24] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: there is your problem could not find module fglrx_experimental
[21:24] <bodhi_zazen> too many ricardo's
[21:24] <xauth> UEFI has a feature called secure boot. You can use it (usually when booting windows), or you can do without. For linux, you usually do without.
[21:25] <ricardooo> waiting for network configuration [problem] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371
[21:25] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: spoke too soon, ignore that
[21:25] <bodhi_zazen> xauth: you can boot linux with secure boot enabled as long as you are not using custom drivers
[21:26] <ricardooo> waiting for network configuration [problem] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371
[21:26] <OerHeks> ricardooo, fuzzy postings, what is your actual issue? black screen as in the last post?
[21:26] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: so the core issue appears to be that cedarview_gfx is not in your kernel
[21:26] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: where did you get the cedarview_gfx module ?
[21:27] <riccardo_> I tried to boot Ubuntu with UEFI with CSM  but sudo efibootmgr -v has always same error
[21:27] <ricardooo> OerHeks: NO DUDE MY PROBLEM ITS I CANT DO ANYTHING BECAUSE UBUNTU AND NOW MAYBE ILL NEED TO BUY ANOTHER DISK IF I WANT GET THIS NORMAL
[21:27] <bodhi_zazen> riccardo_: then try to boot with UEFI and CSM disabled
[21:27] <ikonia> ricardooo no need for caps
[21:28] <ricardooo> ikonia: i need help and no one cares.....
[21:28] <ikonia> ricardooo: I care less when you type in caps, others will too
[21:29] <ricardooo> ikonia: if i didnt use caps u dont even say something to me lool
[21:30] <ikonia> ricardooo: now I'll ignore you
[21:30] <ikonia> I just joined the channel so hadn't seen you post before
[21:30] <riccardo_> bodhi  I have also SecureBoot option
[21:30] <ricardooo> ikonia: bye
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> ricardooo: it would help if you gave a better description of your problem. At any rate, see this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[21:30] <Jordan_U> ricardooo: Is English your first language?
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> ricardooo: if that fails, you need to then identify your hardware (video card)
[21:31] <ricardooo> Jordan_U: no bro
[21:31] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia, I got the module from older kernels, when I installed the computer it came with cedarview available in additional drivers, so I nstalled it through there using other kernels successfully.
[21:31] <Psil0Cybin> do you think I can remove the new kernels and just try again? to upgrade?
[21:31] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin nah, I think I see a few things wrong here
[21:31] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: looks like the PAE extension is a bit of a problem in the kernel name
[21:31] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: an interesting overview here http://askubuntu.com/questions/300208/cannot-install-cedar-tail-drm-in-dkms-format-on-ubuntu-running-on-a-netbook
[21:32] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia, oh, so do you think this is something that can be fixed later? I am going to read that link right now, thank you! Thank you for helping me diagnose this issue/taking the time to look at it.
[21:32] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen: i will try nomodset doesnt work i will see others
[21:32] <kernellinux> What's going on guys?
[21:32] <|PiP|> is it possible to do ssh login that requires both a key and password?
[21:32] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: give me a nudge when you have time, I think this an be fixed, but I think we'll also need to log a bug to get it fixed properly
[21:32] <ikonia> "can" be fixed
[21:33] <ikonia> |PiP|: put a password on the key
[21:33] <ikonia> |PiP|: then you need the key+the keypassword
[21:33] <bodhi_zazen> |PiP|: not at the same time, you can log in with a key, and the key may have a password, or you can log in with password authentication, or if password authentication is enabled, it will fall back to pw if your key fails
[21:34] <Jordan_U> ricardooo: Ok. It's hard to understand the posts you've made here and on ubuntuforums. It would help if you properly capitalized your sentences and ended them with periods, as well as otherwise using proper punctuation. Could you please try to summarise your entire problem, using proper capitalization and punctuation? Also, there are Ubuntu IRC channels for many languages, so you can likely get help in your native language as well.
[21:34] <|PiP|> bodhi_zazen: hmm okay. i wanted to be able to rotate the password periodically without having to change the key
[21:34] <bodhi_zazen> |PiP|: you can change the password on the key
[21:34] <Psil0Cybin> D ikonia, I do not have the laptop on me right now, could I perhaps come back online later tonight with the proper laptop if you are on and you can help me? if Not i will wait untill it is convinent for you, it isnt like an emergency but it would be amazing to debug the issue :D
[21:35] <whitehat> have a gigabyte 970A-d3 mobo.all sata 6 mobo ports populated. have SiI 3214 4port sata card. fstab refers to all drives on mobo with UUID.however, when I plug hard drives in 4port card, they are mounted first and mappings get messed up. ideas? running ub 13.10
[21:35] <Psil0Cybin> so I can also learn how to file proper bug reports  :D
[21:35] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: sure
[21:35] <ricardooo> Jordan_U: portuguese people sucks they are all lazy
[21:35] <ricardooo> 1
[21:35] <|PiP|> bodhi_zazen: but would i have to update my servers? im using Amazon EC2 ubuntu images that use an ssh key that they've created
[21:35] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia, thank you, you rock..
[21:35] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: i think I see the problem, so this can be worked out
[21:35] <Psil0Cybin> perhaps can you post any answers you have for me on the forums so i can review it later?
[21:35] <Psil0Cybin> even if you are offline :D
[21:35] <Psil0Cybin> so i can give you offical thanks
[21:35] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: not quite that easy, as we'll need to work it through on your setup
[21:35] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: need to make sure I understand what's going on
[21:36] <bodhi_zazen> |PiP|: no, see http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ssh-changing-passphrase/
[21:36] <Psil0Cybin> alright ikonia so i will wait till i am home and ill message you if you are online so i can provide more information.
[21:36] <riccardo_> bios option UEFI without CSM give an error  no bootable image found
[21:36] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: I'm sure you'll catch me at some point in the next 24 hours
[21:36] <Psil0Cybin> amazing, ikonia you are a saint.
[21:36] <|PiP|> bodhi_zazen: awesome thanks a lot
[21:36] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: lets fix it first before praising
[21:36] <Jordan_U> riccardo_: Are you booting via USB or CD? Which iso did you use? If USB, what program did you use to make the USB drive bootable?
[21:37] <Vivekananda> hey guys what is a good pdf reader in the repos ? I found okular but it wants me to download the entire kde desktop for it
[21:37] <riccardo_> Hi, I am booting from harddisk ubuntu desktop 13.10 at 64bit
[21:38] <Jordan_U> ricardooo: Please don't insult entire nations of people in this channel.
[21:38] <ricardooo> Jordan_U: im portuguese i know what im doing...
[21:39] <jeeves_moss> is there a way to run a RDP style server on Ubuntu that you use a web page to interface with it?
[21:39] <Jordan_U> ricardooo: Such comments are not acceptable in this channel, period. If you can't respect this channel's guidelines then you will be asked to leave.
[21:39] <Jordan_U> !guidelines | ricardooo
[21:39] <ricardooo> Jordan_U: ok ok sorry
[21:39] <jhutchins> jeeves_moss: RDP being Remote Desktop Protocol?
[21:40] <bodhi_zazen> jeeves_moss: what are you looking for ? something like VNC with a web client ?
[21:41] <bodhi_zazen> jeeves_moss: guacamole? http://guac-dev.org/
[21:41] <AmbiguousOutlier> how do i seamlessly connect to a virtualbox via remotebox?
[21:43] <klafy> How to enable root in Lubuntu ????
[21:43] <willwh> sudo su
[21:43] <willwh> ;/
[21:43] <Pici> !noroot
[21:43] <bodhi_zazen> +1 ubottu
[21:43] <trism> Vivekananda: it's alot but it isn't the whole desktop, I use okular on unity here with no problems
 links please
[21:44] <bodhi_zazen> AmbiguousOutlier: IMO easiest method is ssh -X and forward a panel (xfce panel works well, kde panel also). If you need a X server on windows use xming
[21:45] <Pici> !root | klafy
[21:45] <bodhi_zazen> klafy: use sudo -i for a root shell, gksu or similar for x apps, depends on version of ubutnu
[21:46] <riccardo_> I tried to boot also from USB but command sudo efibootmgr -v is not working
[21:46] <jeeves_moss> jhutchins, yes.  I would like to run an application on a RDP style server (since there is no web interface for the GUI), but we don't want to give the end user access to RDP.  We need to control the access to it as if it was a web page;.
 I want to login as root like in  backtrack
[21:46] <Vivekananda> trism but it is like 200mbs of download
[21:46] <Pici> klafy: This isn't the backtrack channel.
[21:46] <Vivekananda> that is bad
[21:46] <Vivekananda> no ?
[21:47] <Pici> !backtrack | klafy
[21:47] <ricardooo> waiting for network configuration [problem] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371
[21:48] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen: ur site didnt work :(
[21:48] <bodhi_zazen> ricardooo: your graphics card is not supported, what graphics card do you have ?
[21:48] <Jordan_U> ricardooo: I asked you to please rephrase your entire problem using proper capitalization and punctuation. I think if you do so you will get a better response.
 am not asking about those distro i am using Lubuntu and I want to know how to login as root !!
[21:48] <bodhi_zazen> ricardooo: lspci | grep VGA
[21:49] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen: i use toshiba with amd ati radeon 2400 HD
[21:49] <ejuan> klafy, sudo su -
[21:49] <Pici> klafy: You just said backtrack.
[21:49] <Jordan_U> klafy: Logging in as root isn't supported. Why do you want to do so?
[21:49] <jhutchins> klafy: root login is disabled.  Is that not adequately clear?  Follow the link above for how to use sudo instead.
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Pici: They want to use Ubuntu the way they used backtrack, in the sense of logging in as root.
[21:49] <Pici> Jordan_U: oh.
[21:50] <ricardooo> Jordan_U:  if u cant see my problem is i cant enter in ubuntu so i cant change my partition disk to NTFS to come back to my windows 7 as i can see this ubuntu are all full errors and bugs and im not pro in this to understand it all
[21:51] <Jordan_U> ricardooo: Do you know how what it means to capitalize the first word in a sentence?
[21:51] <bodhi_zazen> ricardooo: your card is not supported http://askubuntu.com/questions/203232/radeon-hd-2000-3000-4000-on-12-10-quantal-fglrx-legacy-12-6-unsupported-wh
[21:51] <ricardooo> Jordan_U: no but i know what is capital
[21:52] <bodhi_zazen> you can try Ubuntu 12.04 or get an alternate video card or complain to ATI
[21:52] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen:  so i need to try install that to change my partition get back to my windows 7??
[21:53] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen:  to get back to*
[21:54] <bodhi_zazen> Well, getting back to windows and your problem booting ubuntu "ricardooo	waiting for network configuration [problem] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206371" are probably unrelated
[21:54] <krababbel> ricardooo: you need to 'fixmbr' with a Windows boot disc to get back to Windows like it was before Ubuntu.
[21:57] <ricardooo> krababbel: fixmbr? how i use that? can u give me some good tutorial please??
[21:58] <SweetGuM> does someone have a fileice survey remover for ubuntu? (sorry if this is the wrong place to ask)
[21:59] <AmbiguousOutlier> can i ask ssh -X  forward the entire gnome-desktop
[21:59] <bodhi_zazen> ricardooo: http://windows7themes.net/how-to-fix-mbr-in-windows-7.html
[21:59] <bodhi_zazen> AmbiguousOutlier: yes you can, but if you are going to do that I suggest FreeNX
[21:59] <Jordan_U> AmbiguousOutlier: Yes, but you probably won't like the performance.
[21:59] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen: man i love you
[22:00] <ricardooo> bodhi_zazen: no homo
[22:03] <ejuan> AmbiguousOutlier, ive done that before on 100mbit lan, performance was not bad.
[22:05] <hatchetjack> hey if I want to partition my disk which version installer do I need
[22:05] <bodhi_zazen> AmbiguousOutlier: the other option is Xephyr - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620003 and http://nims11.wordpress.com/2012/06/24/nested-x-servers-with-xephyr/
[22:05] <hatchetjack> is there still an alternate install disk?
[22:05] <bodhi_zazen> hatchetjack: any of the desktops will do
[22:06] <hatchetjack> bodhi_zazen: last time I tried the 13.10 installer it auto partitioned my disk and I lost my data
[22:06] <jhutchins> bodhi_zazen: Thanks, bookmarked that.
[22:06] <hatchetjack> bodhi_zazen: you got to give special options to be able to partition?
[22:06] <jhutchins> hatchetjack: Dual boot is an option for most of the installers, but you have to pay attention.
[22:07] <bodhi_zazen> hatchetjack: you have to take care at the partitioning part of the installer and pay attention to what it is doing
[22:07] <tripelb> my 12.04 gets errores and needs reboot.... experienced an internal error. system program problem. up to date on updates. 3 pages of "details"
[22:07] <hatchetjack> bodhi_zazen: okay does the installer have a vnc option?
[22:08] <bodhi_zazen> jhutchins: glad you liked the link, which one ?
[22:09] <jackbrown> Hello could anyone help me to find my dev/ soundcard ?
[22:10] <bodhi_zazen> hatchetjack: not that I know of
[22:16] <dwarder> is mjpg_streamer hdd intensive?
[22:16] <dwarder> i want to run it on my flash drive
[22:17] <jhutchins> bodhi_zazen: Win7 MBR fix.
[22:17] <bodhi_zazen> jackbrown: ls /dev/snd perhaps
[22:17] <jhutchins> jackbrown: /dev/dsp?
[22:17] <bodhi_zazen> jackbrown: you can also try `aplay -l`
[22:17] <jhutchins> jackbrown: What are you really trying to do?
[22:19] <jackbrown> ok bodhi_zazen i try
[22:20] <jackbrown> jhutchins: i need to stream sound from a lan laptopt to another via SSH
[22:20] <jackbrown> bodhi_zazen: are u there ?
[22:22] <jhutchins> jackbrown: I believe pulseaudio has a way to do that.
[22:22] <jhutchins> jackbrown: You can use ssh tunneling for stream or other audio protocols.
[22:22] <jackbrown> jhutchins: you know how ?
[22:22] <jackbrown> jhutchins: is there a guide to do that?
[22:22] <jhutchins> jackbrown: Haven't had the occasion to try, sorry.
[22:23] <jackbrown> jhutchins: can u help me to do that ? on internet I found this command  " ssh <username>@192.168.1.2 'dd bs=1k if=/dev/audio' > /dev/audio "
[22:23] <jhutchins> jackbrown: I see some promising results on google from "pulse forward audio"
[22:24] <jhutchins> jackbrown: THat doesn't look likely.
[22:24] <jackbrown> ok
[22:24] <bodhi_zazen> jackbrown: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/6192/stream-audio-over-ssh
[22:24] <jackbrown> ok
[22:24] <jhutchins> jackbrown: http://razor.occams.info/blog/2009/02/11/pulseaudio-sound-forwarding-across-a-network/
[22:24] <bodhi_zazen> jackbrown: or other options see http://askubuntu.com/questions/95692/multi-room-multi-zone-diy-audio-setup
[22:30] <bodhi_zazen> jhutchins: FYI - http://razor.occams.info/blog/2009/02/11/pulseaudio-sound-forwarding-across-a-network/
[22:35] <ajoul> what is make test
[22:35] <ajoul> what is make test?
[22:37] <Thete> make test?
[22:37] <Thete> like gnu make?
[22:37] <ajoul> make test
[22:37] <ajoul> the command make test
[22:37] <fl0w> Is it possible to set environment variables for a system users, i.e www-data?
[22:37] <Thete> Well, if there's a test rule in a makefile, that would make whatever is in that test rule
[22:38] <ikonia> fl0w: why would you need to do that
[22:38] <ikonia> fl0w: they are not interactive, so dont use them
[22:38] <ajoul> no ikonia
[22:38] <ikonia> ajoul: no what ?
[22:38] <pedahzur> Googling hasn't gotten me anywhere yet.  Anyone know how to play audio over a Skype call on Linux?
[22:39] <fl0w> ikonia: I don't need to, just was wondering if that would be a nice way to set in example production specific logins only readable by that account (or sudousers)
[22:39] <ikonia> fl0w: what you just said doesn't make sense
[22:39] <gde33> I'm a newbie, I just typed "running applications" in the help window, nothing came up. lol
[22:39] <fl0w> ikonia: I realised that. Let me try again.
[22:40] <jhutchins> gde33: What do you want to do?
[22:41] <gde33> I want to figure out how to run applications
[22:41] <gde33> I installed synergy from the website, there is an icon but that says I have to uninstall it before I can use it
[22:41] <fl0w> ikonia: I figured, if I can set environment variables like DATABASE_PASSWORD, or NODE_ENV=production, for a system user, it would be nice - but I don't "need to", just wanted to see if it was possible.
[22:42] <ikonia> fl0w: as variables are designed for interactive sessions, the short answer is "no"
[22:42] <jhutchins> gde33: Best to stick with Ubuntu software to get started.
[22:42] <ignacio_estevez> Howdy, I have a question
[22:42] <jhutchins> gde33: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Saucy https://help.ubuntu.com/ https://ubuntu-manual.org/
[22:43] <tvin> I copy a image to clipboard, I think, but when I try to paste it into pinta, nothing happens
[22:43] <gde33> the issue is that the help search doesn't bring up any page for "run application(s)", I just found one in google
[22:43] <ignacio_estevez> I installed linux on my USB flash drive and now I can only boot into Windows by making sure the flash drive is plugged in
[22:43] <tvin> Is there a way to see what is in clipboard? And why isnt the copied image pasting into pinta?
[22:44] <GunArm> can anyone help me fix my loopback device?
[22:44] <snufft> has anyone got skype working on 13.10? or even an alternative program that will run through skype?
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> tvin, how exactly did you copy the image?
[22:44] <genii> !info pinta
[22:44] <gde33> jhutchins: thanks ;)
[22:45] <fl0w> ikonia: Alright. Thanks.
[22:45] <tvin> hitsujiTMO: I've tried many ways, including the basic, on website I right click and choose "copy image" and from hard drive "copy". Ive also tried screen shot and choosing send to clipboard.
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> tvin: then it maybe that pinta cannot interpret the clipboard data from other apps. 2 secs and ill install pinta and have a look
[22:46] <tvin> with windows I could just screen shot and past in, this seems so much harder
[22:47] <tvin> Well is there a better paint like program then pinta? I have no particular attachment to it
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> gimp
[22:47] <tvin> Gimp is the name of a paint program?
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> yup. gnu image manipulation program
[22:48] <krababbel> tvin: mypaint
[22:48] <tvin> How do I see what is in my clipboard?
[22:49] <tvin> Or is there no way to?
[22:49] <pedahzur> tvin: What desktop environment?
[22:49] <tvin> I mean direct way
[22:49] <ajoul> HOW DO I OUTPUT A SCRIPT ON A FILE?
[22:49] <bodhi_zazen> ajoul: ?
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> tvin: ok, able to paste from a screen shot at least so looks like there's something odd going on with your setup
[22:50] <tvin> gnome 2.32
[22:50] <gde33> jhutchins: if I now click on the synergy icon nothing happens, it doesnt ask me to install the correct version like the last time
[22:50] <pedahzur> tvin: Are you looking for a graphical way to check or from a script?
[22:50] <ajoul> how do I output the outputs of a script to a file?
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> ajoul: no need for caps. please rephrase your question, it doesn't make sense
[22:50] <tvin> pedahzur: Not sure I understand you completely, probably graphical
[22:50] <ajoul> > doesn't seem to work
[22:51] <pedahzur> tvin: In KDE there is something called Klipper.  Gnome probably has something similar.
[22:51] <ignacio_estevez> ajoul, what kind of script?
[22:51] <ajoul> python script
[22:51] <ajoul> it is a .sh that runs a python script
[22:51] <tvin> pedahzur: What is the the name of that classification of program? What search term would I use to search for gnome version of klipper?
[22:52] <krababbel> tvin: probably screenshot
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> ajoul: ahh, yes > for a redirection.   if its still going to the screen instead of a file, then it may be outputing to stderr, inwhich case you need to redirect stderr to stdout too: ./script.sh 2>&1 > output.txt
[22:52] <ignacio_estevez> so you want to output to a file what the python script prints on the screen?
[22:53] <pedahzur> tvin: parcellite "Parcellite is a stripped down, basic-features-only clipboard manager with a small memory footprint for those who like simplicity."
[22:53] <tvin> krababbel: That would result in search results that would include the usual way the word is used, I'd never find the program that way
[22:53] <pedahzur> tvin: Search for clipboard manager.
[22:53] <pedahzur> tvin: also: glipper, clipit
[22:55] <xanux> Vhost mean virtual host?
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> xanux: usually yes
[22:55] <xanux> thx
[22:55] <gde33> help refers to something called "system", where should I find this?
[22:56] <riccardo_> I added some screenshot of my bios in my request http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206488&p=12934046#post12934046
[22:57] <gde33> system > preferences ?
[22:57] <gde33> is this system settings?
[22:58] <gde33> this should be in the help
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: in what contect are you seeing that?
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> context*
[22:59] <gde33> http://askubuntu.com/questions/207718/how-to-open-system-administration
[22:59] <gde33> the help window doesn't tell me where to find system
[23:00] <bengomin> hi all
[23:00] <bengomin> some1 speake russian?
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> !ru | bengomin
[23:00] <Beldar> gde33, You trying to get to that gui you show @askubuntu
[23:00] <bengomin> о, так тут все на русскам лабают?)
[23:01] <Beldar> gde33, The gui with the additional drivers tab?
[23:01] <basketball> who here created ubottu
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: System is a group in System Settings. inside that is "Software & Updates"., last tab there is "additional drivers" as seen in the screenshot in that link
[23:02] <jefinc> has anyone tried ubuntu on their phone?
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> !touch | jefinc
[23:02] <gde33> system = system settings ?
[23:03] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: depends on the context.    whats the actual context your are looking for or is the context the link you provided
[23:03] <gde33> I guess I just have to stop using the help
[23:03] <gde33> just use the websites right?
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: no idea when how to answer that when you're still being so vague. any chance of context of the original problem so we can clarify whats going wrong?
[23:05] <usr13> !details | gde33
[23:05] <gde33> I used wubi, I started firefox, I installed synergy, I reinstalled synergy, now I'm reading the help pages <-- this is my whole ubuntu experience
[23:05] <gde33> I would like to start synergy now
[23:05] <gde33> the help is just very confusing, I think that was the problem
[23:06] <gde33> I mean the help function not you guys :)
[23:06] <usr13> gde33: The first bit of advise I would give is to do a real Ubuntu install, (and ditch wubi). (It's kind of unrleated, or a side coment but...)
[23:06] <gde33> I dont have a spare disk
[23:07] <gde33> so far wubi was really smooth, it worked wonderfully
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> what exactly is the problem with synergy?
[23:07] <gde33> starting it
[23:07] <iter> gde33: just open a terminal and type synergys
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: wubi tends to break very easily. and there's no way to recover anything whewn it does break
[23:07] <usr13> gde33: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto
[23:08] <gde33> iter: no configuration available
[23:09] <iter> gde33: probably should have asked, do you want the ubuntu to be the synergy client or the server?
[23:09] <iter> gde33: you could run synergyc for client
[23:09] <gde33> it sits here next to my windos machine
[23:09] <gde33> would like to run as a client
[23:10] <iter> gde33: synergyc <ip.of.win.machine>
[23:12] <gde33> ah now my server complaints about unrecognised client name
[23:12] <gde33> :)
[23:12] <iter> yeah gotta setup both sides but you're almost there
[23:12] <n-iCe> Hello! big issue!
[23:13] <gde33> it works :)
[23:13] <gde33> thanks again :)
[23:13] <n-iCe> I am running Ubuntu 13.10 in my usb live, and works awesome, all goes really fast and smooth! but when I do the installation the window effects, and effects in general goes slow, any idea? why can be this happening, thanks!
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> n-iCe: becuase some effects are more comutationally expensive than others
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO> n-iCe what gpu do you have?
[23:14] <Beldar> n-iCe, What is your end goal with a live usb, it has limitations?
[23:14] <Jordan_U> n-iCe: Please pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log after booting the LiveUSB and after booting the installed system.
[23:14] <n-iCe> Well thats not quite easy Jordan_U
[23:15] <n-iCe> Jordan_U: I am in the live cd and installed as host debian to see if effects are bad in that OS
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> n-iCe: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:15] <n-iCe> hitsujiTMO: Intel® Core™ i3 CPU M 350 @ 2.27GHz × 4
[23:15] <Jordan_U> n-iCe: It's almost impossible for us to debug an issue with a configuration that you aren't currently using.
[23:15] <n-iCe> Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV710
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> n-iCe: thats your cpu, not your gpu
[23:16] <n-iCe> then no idea, how can I check it.
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> ahh ok radeon
[23:16] <n-iCe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6962677/
[23:16] <n-iCe> do you want me to install the os while we talk hitsujiTMO _
[23:16] <n-iCe> ?
[23:17] <hitsujiTMO> n-iCe: thats a legacy radeon card, so it may not be able to handle some of the effects, especially where there are filters involved
[23:17] <n-iCe> hitsujiTMO: why not, is the card bad_
[23:17] <n-iCe> bad?
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> not bad, just old
[23:18] <n-iCe> should not be that better supported?
[23:18] <n-iCe> laptop is like 2 years old
[23:18] <n-iCe> not quite old, I have an older laptop core 2 dup intel and works really fine
[23:18] <n-iCe> this laptop is better
[23:18] <n-iCe> and why works fine in live cd and not when I install it
[23:18] <n-iCe> otherwise should not work either both
[23:19] <n-iCe> dont you think?
[23:19] <hitsujiTMO> filters are quite computationally expensive. even some of the newer lower end gpus (basic intel ones for example) struggle with the blur filter used in the background blur of the dash
[23:19] <hitsujiTMO> n-iCe: live cd may hove some of the effects turned down
[23:19] <n-iCe> I dont understand you quite well, I am just a normal user.
[23:19] <n-iCe> hitsujiTMO: but the only effect I see difference is when you have multiple windows open and click on the unity bar and the windows go like small
[23:19] <n-iCe> that-s the effect I am talking about
[23:20] <n-iCe> works excelent in live usb and not when I install the os
[23:20] <n-iCe> I am sure it must be something else
[23:21] <hitsujiTMO> n-iCe: in that case can you install the os and pastebin the info Jordan_U requested
[23:21] <n-iCe> ok! I am installing it, thanks!
[23:21] <Beldar> n-iCe, In the right click desktop is a change backdrop in that gui are controls to turn it on and change the sidebar size...etc
[23:22] <n-iCe> I don't see a thing about effects in there Beldar
[23:23] <n-iCe> Beldar: http://postimg.org/image/tjwnxq6z3/
[23:29] <Beldar> n-iCe, tick enable workspaces
[23:29] <n-iCe> Beldar: and now?
[23:30] <Beldar> n-iCe, You want the multiple desktop button in the dash to work right?
[23:30] <n-iCe> no
[23:30] <n-iCe> no idea what are you talking baout
[23:30] <n-iCe> about
[23:31] <izen> anyone ever get fglrx to work with RS690M [Radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270] ??
[23:31] <Beldar> n-iCe, Ah I thought you wanted it working but was a differential explanation from the live.
[23:31] <WeLinuxNow> im having trouble with Ubuntu saving my dual monitor set up config after restarting, any help? (i've tried EVERYTHING from every forum with this problem nothing works) I'm using nvidia-settings
[23:32] <n-iCe> hitsujiTMO: still here?
[23:32] <WeLinuxNow> all games launch in the wrong monitor
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> izen: thats a l;egacy chipset and no longer supported by ATI
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> n-iCe: yup
[23:32] <n-iCe> hitsujiTMO: it finished, should I reboot now?
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> n-iCe: please do
[23:32] <n-iCe> Ok, brb.
[23:32] <tripelb> my 12.04 gets errores and needs reboot.... experienced an internal error. system program problem. up to date on updates. 3 pages of "details" (Sorry if you answered this. My connection keep cutting out. Thanks.)
[23:33] <genii> izen: I'm actually very interested in this also, since I recently got a Samsung 460DXN which has it. Haven't been able to find much on it though. I did get it to work in vesa mode
[23:35] <izen> genii: vesa mode?
[23:35] <gde33> computer wont boot in ubuntu (the second time), I'm stuck at the pink screen
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> izen: vesa a an absolutely basic driver that is barely usable for an end user system. its used as a default backup to get a minimal working UIU
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> s/UIU/UI
[23:37] <izen> hitsujiTMO: ah yah got yah
[23:37] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: That apt-cacher-ng thing.... PIA
[23:37] <izen> gde33: i went with fglrx but aticonfig doesnt see any adapters
[23:37] <dgarstang3> Anyone using apt-cacher-ng?
[23:37] <tripelb> I never heard of ubuntu failing like this. I have been casually asking for weeks. To no avail.
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: still having trouble?
[23:37] <bekks> dgarstang3: Yes.
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> izen: thats coz fglrx no longer supports that card
[23:38] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: yes. someone here said they got it working by removing the proxy setting on the client and instead pointing every repo to the server directly
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> izen: stick with the open radeon driver
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: as in the plymouth moading screen?
[23:38] <genii> izen: Yes, I set in /etc/default/grub the graphics mode to 1024x768 and added "forcevesa" as boot option
[23:38] <gde33> izen: sorry that was a question (was not trying to answer yours)
[23:38] <bekks> dgarstang3: That was me.
[23:38] <dgarstang3> bekks: yes, him!
[23:38] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: the first purple screen with nothing on it
[23:39] <izen> hitsujiTMO: this radeon driver is horrible for rendering even basic video
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: yes, you can do that with: deb http://ip.of.proxy:port/http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main etc
[23:39] <dgarstang3> bekks: Well... with that approach, the URL on the client becomes http://proxy-adress:3142/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu...
[23:39] <bekks> dgarstang3: Correct.
[23:39] <unstable> When I disconnect my external monitor, and reconnect it. Sometimes windows 'disappear'. So right now I have 4 gnome-terminal windows that I can see when I hold alt+tab, though if I select them.. they don't appear.
[23:39] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: game over?
[23:39] <unstable> How can I fix this and get it to stop happening?
[23:39] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: Right, but it becomes a bit of a maintenance nightmare because there's multiple repo's to manage
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: reboot and try again
[23:40] <bekks> dgarstang3: It is a _oneliner_ in bash, using sed.
[23:40] <bekks> dgarstang3: Literally a oneline, one moment.
[23:40] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: I did a few times, the windows still works
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> !text | gde33 try this
[23:40] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: powered down
[23:41] <dgarstang3> bekks: Not really. I'm managing this with chef. Well, on the client, I have to define two URL's just for ubuntu, one for achive.ubuntu.com and another for security.ubuntu.com
[23:41] <dgarstang3> it's a proxy... why can't I just have a single entry point on the client to the server?
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: what about creating a local mirror instead?
[23:42] <Daghdha> Hello. I just ran update and rebooted. Now after i startup it shows an error dialog on the desktop that some error occured. When i close it and try the dash home button the apps and recently run apps don't show anymore.
[23:42] <Daghdha> Any clues to what causes that?
[23:42] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: Maybe. I thought this would be easier. Might have assumed wrong
[23:42] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: ok have a grub> prompt now, it accepts input
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> dgarstang3: well, it "should" be easier yes.
[23:42] <n-iCe> done
[23:43] <n-iCe> I am here
[23:43] <dgarstang3> hitsujiTMO: it'd be easier with a single entry point on the client, and also if the funky proxy-url/original-url wasn't required
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: esc out of the grub prompt to the menu, and replace "quiet splash" with "text"
[23:43] <n-iCe> hitsujiTMO: :)
[23:43] <bekks> dgarstang3: Well, basically you just have to replace http://*.ubuntu.com with http://ip:port/*.ubuntu.com on all clients all source list files. Thats really not that hard, and easy to maintain.
[23:44] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: it gives a new grub> prompt under it when I press escape
[23:44] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: use exit then
[23:44] <bekks> dgarstang3: basically like this: sudo sed -i 's/\/ppa.launchpad.net/\/192.168.1.51:3142\/ppa.launchpad.net/' *.list, as an example.
[23:44] <dgarstang3> bekks: This is pretty ugly http://pastebin.com/8dQ6EmCH
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: then hit "e" to edit the menu entryu
[23:45] <n-iCe> hitsujiTMO: what's next!
[23:45] <bekks> dgarstang3: See that oneline.
[23:45] <bekks> *oneliner
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> n-iCe: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:45] <dgarstang3> bekks: I'm doing this with chef, and the data needs to be encapsulated outside the code
[23:46] <bekks> dgarstang3: which data?
[23:46] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: exit makes it reboot :/
[23:46] <dgarstang3> bekks: the proxy address, the ubuntu archive address, the ubuntu security adress, the ports, the paths
[23:46] <bekks> dgarstang3: Then call a script that sets all that.
[23:47] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: sounds like grub wasn't installed correctly maybe
[23:47] <dgarstang3> bekks: s'ok. lemme see if I can make this suck less
[23:47] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: wait, no, you had a working system. ok can you boot the live cd?
[23:47] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: it is a wubi install
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: ahh, wubi sucks. don't use wubi
[23:48] <Toadstool2> i agree
[23:48] <Toadstool2> dont use wubi
[23:48] <Toadstool2> wubi forces you to install linux on a NTFS drive which slows it down
[23:48] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: holding shift brings up the gui
[23:48] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: pressing e brings up some options
[23:49] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: replace "quiet splash" with "text"       then f10 to boot
[23:49] <Daghdha> "System Program problem detected
[23:50] <Daghdha> "System Program problem detected" How can i see what's causing it?
[23:50] <q0> i'd like to destroy my friend's ubuntu machine. What's the fastest way
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> Daghdha: where are you seeing this exactly?
[23:50] <Bitwise> sudo rm -rf /
[23:50] <Toadstool2> Daghdha: when you send the bug report there is a button that lets you see the details
[23:50] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: back at the purple screen :P
[23:50] <genii> !danger
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> !danger | Bitwise
[23:51] <genii> Bitwise: Don't do that.
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> q0: do not ask such qestions in here please
[23:51] <GamesForLifeGami> So I am setting up a Xubuntu server computer and I need the network interface card drivers, how do I know what drivers I need and how do I put them onto the server?
[23:51] <Bitwise> Sorry, just answering a question. :\
[23:51] <q0> Lol seriously ? You're now accusing me of asking an innocent question
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> Bitwise: don't answer such questions
[23:52] <Bitwise> My apologies.
[23:52] <q0> but i understand your concern my apologies as well
[23:52] <unstable> Also, I have a specific window layout each time I setup my computer in the morning. I have chrome/sublime/hipchat/4 terminal windows, all in a specific layout.. how can I get that layout to be 'setup' fast, without manually dragging? The control/alt/num key pad stuff doesn't fit my use case, since I allocate screen space differently. How can I get this to stop happening? or get the windows to show?
[23:52] <unstable> The only way I know to get out of this, is to kill the program and restart it
[23:52] <q0> sudo rm -rf
[23:52] <Bitwise> I have a question myself, actually.
[23:52] <Daghdha> at boot, hmm it blames VirtualBox in that screen Toadstool2. But it also doesn't open the (i don't know what it's called) the part  that opens when you press the ubuntu logo button in the top left
[23:52] <Bitwise> I'm trying to set up courier but I get /usr/lib/courier/imapd.pem already exists. when I try to install courier-imap-ssl but if I delete it the output I receive is regarding a dead sym link.
[23:52] <Bitwise> What should I do to deal with this?
[23:53] <hitsujiTMO> Bitwise: "i'd like to destroy my friend's ubuntu machine" infers that the person wants to destroy someone elses machine. not something we should be helping with on this channel
[23:53] <ggreer> q0: you could probably use a hammer. or thermite. or put it on train tracks
[23:53] <ggreer> really, the fact thah it's running ubuntu shouldn't change the method of destruction
[23:54] <Daghdha> Also, i just did a kernel update. After the reboot it started
[23:54] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: in recovery mode it now gets stuck at the loading initial ramdisk entry
[23:54] <gde33> hitsujiTMO: caps lock still works
[23:54] <q0> Thank you ggreer ! :)
[23:54] <genii> q0: Do not repeat dangerous commands in this channel. There are new users who do not necessarily know you are not talking to them and may type in what you put, killing their system.
[23:54] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: sounds like its messed up. time for a reinstall i guess.
[23:55] <genii> ( it has happened previously)
[23:55] <Daghdha> if i choose Dash Home it's just all empty and the window isn't even  rendered
[23:56] <Daghdha> it does put the X - [ ]  at the top left. But no menus and no window
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> gde33: this is one reason why we don't recommend wubi. its far too fragile and is nearly impossible to recover in the event of a failure
[23:58] <impossible> should someone keep constant backup for that matter? hitsujiTMO
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> impossible: someone should keep constant backups anywayt
[23:59] <iter> don't destroy someone's computer, that's very not nice
[23:59] <Bitwise> I'm trying to set up courier but I get /usr/lib/courier/imapd.pem already exists. when I try to install courier-imap-ssl but if I delete it the output I receive is regarding a dead sym link. What should I do to properly deal with this?
[23:59] <Toadstool2> is there any way for me to backup my entire linux partition and restore it to the same state?
[23:59] <Daghdha> what is that menu called when you press the ubunty button and previously laucned apps and installed apps are shown as well as a text search box? I need to know it's name so i can google wth it's not showing anymore when i press that button
[23:59] <impossible> I see, do you think the majority uses cloud-based backups or hdds>