[00:11] <shadeslayer> IIRC qapt just compiled with Qt5
[00:37] <mamarley> I just noticed that kde-config-touchpad is obsoleted now.  Is there any intended upgrade path?  How am I supposed to change the touchpad settings now?
[00:41] <manchicken> mamarley: Input Devices?
[00:43] <mamarley> manchicken: I thought that was kde-config-touchpad.
[00:51] <manchicken> mamarley: http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/2014/02/11/new-touchpad-management-app-in-kubuntu-14-04/
[00:52] <mamarley> Ah, OK.  Thanks!
[01:48]  * manchicken buys a polo shirt...
[03:48] <manchicken> That awkward moment when your unit tests work, but the application running the exact same scenario is not.
[08:21] <Peace-> Riddell: error on 14.04 
[08:21] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install  plasma-widget-*
[08:21] <Peace-> Reading package lists... Done
[08:21] <Peace-> Building dependency tree       
[08:21] <Peace-> Reading state information... Done
[08:21] <Peace-> E: Unable to locate package plasma-widget-folderview_4.11.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[08:21] <Peace-> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'plasma-widget-folderview_4.11.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb'
[08:21] <Peace-> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'plasma-widget-folderview_4.11.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb'
[08:33] <Riddell> Peace-: plasma-widget-folderview is there, what happensif you just install it?
[08:36] <Peace-> Riddell: well i have already installed that and if i try to reinstall it it just doens't give me message 
[08:36] <Peace-> but with plasma-widget-* gives that error
[08:55] <Riddell> Peace-: um hmm, dunno sorry
[08:56] <Peace-> Riddell: well it's not a problem for me :D it was just for you, i mean i was trying to help the develop on 14.04 reporting what was not working fine , for me it's not a problem use alphas 
[08:57] <jussi> Riddell: do you know when agateau is back?
[08:58] <Riddell> jussi: nope, next week I guess
[08:58] <jussi> ok, thanks
[09:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1282461
[09:11] <apachelogger> bug 1282462
[09:14] <apachelogger> bug 1282464
[09:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what I still don't get btw is why you first getDriverDict and then *always* move on to getDriverMapForDevice, if you always want both anyway, why don't you have one getter that returns a complete map of maps?
[09:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1282471 myohmy
[09:26]  * apachelogger all bugged out again, can't upload k-n-h because changlog is sad
[09:26] <apachelogger> Riddell: I uploaded libkubuntu
[09:37] <Riddell> apachelogger: oh cool, one less thing on my todo list
[09:37] <Riddell> apachelogger: what about notification-helper?
[09:41] <Riddell> trying out opensuse, they have a black theme, yuck
[09:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: waiting for shadeslayer to write a changelog
[09:58] <Riddell> yuck, I try to install umbrello and it wants to install gstreamer and flash
[09:58] <Riddell> come back qapt, all if forgiven!
[10:02] <mikhas> Riddell, why do you need to bring UML back from the dead?!
[10:02] <Riddell> hey UML is useful, it get me an A at university, academics love that stuff
[10:51] <Riddell> not convinced by the fedora installer, doesn't follow any linear progression
[10:54] <Riddell> and Done button in the top left is just confusing
[11:01]  * apachelogger asks Riddell to keep his cards updated https://trello.com/c/fuFnpLVf
[11:02] <apachelogger> ovidiu-florin: https://trello.com/c/OUuTZcud did you see my comment?
[11:24] <apachelogger> Riddell: was the plasma-nm git snapshot approved by upstream?
[11:24]  * apachelogger sighs
[11:26] <apachelogger> Riddell: bug 
[11:26] <apachelogger> bug 1282523
[11:26] <apachelogger> I am getting overly sick of this btw
[11:38] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes, it'll get a release in a couple of weeks
[11:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: upload with po
[11:38] <apachelogger> we have QA deadlines
[11:39] <apachelogger> and if shit is broken for no good reason the QA is pointless
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:25] <Peace-> hola BluesKaj
[12:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: tried doing it that way earlier, Q/DBus couldn't handle the types
[12:41] <apachelogger> that sounds wrong given that dbus (and qt) can handle any old binary data even
[12:41]  * ghostcube gets testing kdeconnect 0.5 \o
[12:42] <ghostcube> *goes
[13:05] <ghostcube> hmmm. anypone the same problem, that the kdeconnect settings part inside systemsettings is empty after upgrade to 0.5?
[13:07] <Riddell> having looked at opensuse, fedora and debian today I can confidently say we're still the best
[13:07] <Riddell> although fedora wins points for being kde idealisted with calligra and konqueror installed, but then loses them with a load of gtk config tools
[13:09] <sgclark> Riddell: morning, hope your feeling better, can you take a look at kdbusaddons, had to fix symbols file error
[13:09] <Riddell> ghostcube: works for me
[13:09] <ghostcube> hmmm
[13:11] <ghostcube> Riddell: ok, after restart its working again
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Hey Peace- , din't see you there, got joins turned off
[13:12] <Peace-> :)
[13:12] <Peace-> i have killed X i guess 
[13:13] <Riddell> sgclark: onto it
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Peace-,  how?
[13:13] <Peace-> BluesKaj: crtl alt backspace
[13:14] <BluesKaj> oh deliberately , ok :)
[13:14] <Peace-> yes i was testing opegl egl with kwin 
[13:14] <Peace-> and i closed konsole where was running kwin :D 
[13:15] <Peace-> so i was not be able to switch window
[13:15] <mgraesslin> pro-tip: use yakuake for such usecases, less chances to accidentially close it
[13:15]  * Peace- got it
[13:15] <BluesKaj> yakuake rocks
[13:27] <soee> yes :)
[13:29] <apachelogger> meh
[13:29] <apachelogger> trusty vbox still has tiny resolution :'<
[13:31] <Riddell> sgclark: kdbusaddons uploaded
[13:31] <sgclark> thanks!
[13:33] <Riddell> jussi: do you need that shirts announce on the website?
[13:34] <jussi> Riddell: that would be nice, havent had time to put it on the wire yet... somethign called "work" :D
[13:39] <apachelogger> oh great, qemu also hates me :'<
[13:40] <ovidiu-florin> apachelogger: I did see your comment. I'm not sure what can I do about it. Should I ask the developer to prepare the code for translations?
[13:41] <apachelogger> ovidiu-florin: you could ask the translators to translate :P
[13:45] <ghostcube> hmmm 0.5 is nice but seems not working as 0.4
[13:46] <ghostcube> sending files from phone to kde doesnt work here ... hmm
[13:47] <ovidiu-florin> apachelogger: how do I do that?
[13:47] <ovidiu-florin> How do I contact them?
[13:47] <ovidiu-florin> is there a mail list for this?
[13:53] <apachelogger> ovidiu-florin: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-i18n-doc
[13:53] <apachelogger> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=139239352006237&w=2 as example mail
[13:55] <ghostcube> hmm ok i tried but it think kdeconnect 0.5 broke data send from phone to desktop
[13:55] <ghostcube> it worked fine in 0.4.x
[13:58] <manchicken> Howdy
[14:01] <shadeslayer> afternoon
[14:48] <sgclark> Riddell: kiconthemes ready
[14:58] <manchicken1> apachelogger: Thanks for your help.
[14:59] <BluesKaj> are the the kde 4.12.2 packages for 12.04 ready for the repos yet?
[15:02] <Riddell> sgclark: uploaded
[15:08] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yeah, I'll copy them over
[15:10] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, great, thanks, had a 12.04 user asking whether there was something wrong with his system because it wouldn't update kde.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> err upgrade
[15:11] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: done, please wait 30 minutes before upgrading
[15:12] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, I'll tell him if he returns 
[15:12] <shadeslayer> cheers
[15:14] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1272687] Shutdown sometimes hangs on Kubuntu 14.04 Daily Build @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1272687 (by Marco Parillo)
[15:20] <sgclark> Riddell: kservice is broken, I think it needs to be rebuilt with new dbusaddons, is there a way to do that?
[15:58] <DonkeyHotei> Riddell: is there any chance kubuntu-active will work by release day?
[15:59] <sgclark> Riddell: is there a reason we named libkf5attica1.0 when it is  attica-4.96.0.tar.xz on frameworks site?
[16:00] <Riddell> DonkeyHotei: unlikely, nobody is working on it, but fixes welcome
[16:00] <shadeslayer> sgclark: probably named after the library that is being installed :)
[16:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw did you investigate why calling dh_installwm makes tests work on framework integration?
[16:01] <Riddell> sgclark: kdbusaddons is built, just retry kservice no?
[16:01] <Riddell> sgclark: kservice is also built, what's the issue?
[16:01] <sgclark> Riddell: correct, shlibs called mispelled dbusaddons, just rebuild
[16:02] <sgclark> Riddell: will correct itself
[16:02] <sgclark> Riddell: kservice that is
[16:02] <Riddell> sgclark: the source package attica-kf5 was renamed to stop it clashing with attica that builds with qt4
[16:02] <Riddell> sgclark: libkf5attica1.0 binary package is named after the library
[16:03] <sgclark> Riddell: right, got that, was confused on 1.0, but clarified nw
[16:26] <Peace-> Riddell: the flash kcm module isn't on repos ?
[16:28] <Riddell> flash kcm module?
[16:29] <Peace-> Riddell: http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/flashkubuntu.png
[16:31] <Peace-> Riddell: it's on flashplayer tar.gz that you can get from adobe http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/20/plasma-desktopF26020.png
[16:39] <Riddell> I don't know anything about it I'm afraid, packages welcome but
[16:58] <yofel_> bah, missed him. adobe-flash-properties-kde is in partner
[17:03] <shadeslayer> yofel: any news on the lxc front?
[17:16] <shadeslayer> Riddell: might want to announce KDE SC 4.12.2 + KDE Workspace 4.11.6 on Kubuntu News
[17:39] <sgclark> Riddell: attica ready
[17:48] <sgclark> Riddell: sorry to bug you, kservice needs to be rebuilt, clogging up the works.
[17:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: 
[17:54] <shadeslayer> ping
[17:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I'm not sure how to solve this tbh https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1280773
[18:01] <yofel> shadeslayer: not really, was busy yesterday. I'm looking at it now
[18:01] <shadeslayer> thx
[18:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw I see a strigi merge
[18:19] <yofel> shadeslayer: hm... I'm running it now. But at least the setup step seems to work. It's installing packages for saucy.
[18:19] <yofel> Where did your test fail again?
[18:21] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966771/
[18:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: if it works for you, please file for a merge
[18:22] <yofel> configuring upgrader for LTS upgrade
[18:22] <yofel> that's precise->trusty?
[18:22] <yofel> ok, seems like I'm not at that point yet
[18:24] <yofel> shadeslayer: I think that would need a new branch just for the profiles. I remember doing a bunch of LXC changes that I'm not sure should go upstream. (At least not until I look over the diff again)
[18:24] <yofel> hm... actually... I remember seeing an LXC network failure once after an upgrade
[18:25] <yofel> brrrrrrr
[18:25] <yofel> it failed
[18:25] <shadeslayer> same backlog?
[18:26] <yofel> not quite, but same error in the end http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966802/
[18:27] <shadeslayer> same backtrace too
[18:27] <yofel> yeah, the container is trash
[18:27] <yofel> hm
[18:27] <yofel> or not o.O
[18:29] <yofel> shadeslayer: does ubuntu actually use LXC? I remember that at least the qemu backend worked fine  last year
[18:29] <yofel> we just had no hardware for it
[18:30] <shadeslayer> I think so
[18:30] <shadeslayer> atleast stgraber was working on it IIRC
[18:30] <yofel> hm, lets see if I can figure out what happens
[18:30] <yofel> yeah, I remember that
[18:31] <yofel> I *think* there's a race condition somewhere. If I run the upgrade process again after the bootstrap was done it starts upgrading
[18:32] <shadeslayer> I see
[18:34] <yofel> at least it seems to be doing something. Sadly you don't see the package download process during upgrade, but I have something causing network traffic
[19:35] <pedahzur> Not sure if this is a dev question, but since it's KDE backports, I'll ask. So, I have "http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main" enabled for my system. Today I see there is an update.  Running dist-upgrade tells me that kdm and kubuntu-desktop will be removed. I know kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, but removing kdm seems a bit worrisome. Thoughts?
[19:48] <Peace-> pedahzur: well kdm it's the login stuff
[19:48] <Peace-> pedahzur:btw you should check if you have lightdm 
[19:49] <Peace-> cuz it's the default login manager 
[19:53] <yofel> pedahzur: could you please run 'apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=true dist-upgrade' and pastebin the output after cancelling? Thanks!
[19:53] <yofel> Peace-: about your flash question earlier: adobe-flash-properties-kde is in partner if you're looking for it
[19:54] <yofel> don't ask me why the installer doesn't have it
[19:54] <Peace-> yofel:  on 14.04^?
[19:55] <yofel> likely not, unless partner has already been uploaded. The saucy package should work though
[19:55] <Peace-> yofel: infact
[19:55] <Peace-> ok yofel perfect 
[19:55] <Peace-> i have installed it manually btw :D 
[19:56] <Peace-> yofel: i had to use it because i was trying to record a video with flashplayer
[19:57] <Peace-> yofel: and i am not able to activate the website from flashplayer i mean from here https://www.youtube.com/my_webcam?privacy=public
[19:57] <Peace-> yofel: flashplayer refuses to be clickable
[19:57] <yofel> I fear I can't help there..
[19:57] <pedahzur> Peace-: No lightdm installed.
[19:57] <Peace-> yofel: no problem yofel with kcm module i was be able to do the job
[19:57] <pedahzur> yofel: Here you go. Looks like a couple broken deps. https://gist.github.com/jkugler/9121933
[19:58] <Peace-> pedahzur: ok so if you remove kdm you will not have a login manager 
[19:58] <pedahzur> Peace-: Right.
[19:58] <Peace-> pedahzur: so basically you will not able to login graphically 
[19:58] <pedahzur> Peace-: startx isn't a command I've run for quite a while. :)
[19:58] <Peace-> ctrl alt f3 will help ;)
[19:58] <Peace-> pedahzur: ok 
[19:59] <Peace-> pedahzur: just install lightdm and lightdm-kde-greeter 
[19:59] <yofel> odd, let me try to reproduce that
[20:11] <pedahzur> yofel: Kubuntunix in #kubuntu said he installed a new sysv-rc package from http://ppa.launchpad.net/dirk-computer42/c42-backport/ubuntu/pool/main/s/sysvinit/  Which is great that he got it working, but one probably should nothave to do that, correct? :)
[20:11] <pedahzur> user *Kubuntuix
[20:11] <yofel> not really, I'm looking into it
[20:13] <yofel> o.O
[20:17] <yofel> I think debhelper messed something up here :/
[20:17] <yofel> shadeslayer: why did we need a debhelper backport again?
[20:24] <yofel> pedahzur: I have a fix, might take 2-3 hours until it's in the PPA though
[20:24] <yofel> thanks for bringing this up
[20:43] <yuriy> I also ran into this kdm problem. it got removed.
[20:43] <yuriy> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:43] <yuriy>  kdm : Depends: sysv-rc (>= 2.88dsf-24) but 2.88dsf-13.10ubuntu11.1 is to be installed or
[20:43] <yuriy>                 file-rc (>= 0.8.16) but it is not installable
[20:46] <pedahzur> yofel: You're welcome. Thanks for the quick turn-around!
[21:36] <shadeslayer> yofel: cuz cmake
[21:36] <yofel> ah right :/
[21:37] <shadeslayer> bluedevil, y u no connect to speaker
[22:31] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1282770] PPA (Kubuntu-backports) update 4.12.2 removed KDM & kubuntu-desktop – reinstall fails @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1282770 (by Flames_in_Paradise)
[22:36] <miseria> la palabra manipuladora que dice un perdedor y arrogante pacifista si no estas conmigo, eres mi enemigo  bienvenidos httpcastroruben.com temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival
[23:10] <yuriy> thank you yofel!
[23:36] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1282770] PPA (Kubuntu-backports) update 4.12.2 removed KDM & kubuntu-desktop – reinstall fails @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1282770 (by Flames_in_Paradise)