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mlankhorstmorning08:17
Laneymorning!09:00
seb128good morning desktopers!09:01
seb128Laney, hey, how are you?09:01
seb128happy ff day!09:01
Laneyhey seb12809:01
LaneyI've picked up a bit of a cough :(!09:01
Laneywas around loads of ill people last night09:02
Laneyhow are you?09:02
seb128:-09:02
seb128:-(09:02
seb128I'm good, thanks09:02
mlankhorstdoes unity work now?09:21
duflumlankhorst: When didn't it?09:21
mlankhorstwhen it failed to build :P09:21
dufluOh09:21
Laneymlankhorst: there was a new mesa09:24
mlankhorstyeah Sarvatt pointed out I missed some deps09:25
darkxstLaney, seb128 hi09:25
seb128darkxst, hey09:26
darkxstseb128, lightdm seems quite broken here (even without my gnome-desktop stuff)09:28
seb128how so?09:28
seb128there were some update this night, I didn't upgrade yet09:28
darkxsttheming issues I guess09:28
seb128so maybe some new bug?09:28
darkxstI saw this yesterday, but havent seen before09:29
seb128what are you testing?09:29
darkxstseb128, I have ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-gnome-desktop09:30
seb128can you take a picture of the issue you see? the description of the issue you are making isn't very detailed09:31
darkxstseb128, just upgrading and then I will grab a screen grab09:33
darkxstupdating09:33
Laneyoh09:33
LaneyI just got a mid-upgrade reboot again :/09:33
seb128:-(09:34
Laneyjodh: do you think there could be bugs there still?09:37
LaneyI did get a new upstart09:37
darkxstLaney, btw I think i fixed the resolution issue you had, but ppa is broken again due to archive churn09:38
Laneycool09:39
darkxstatleast I made it read, /etc/gnome-settings-daemon config if no local user config exists09:39
jodhLaney: Can you try running 'sudo telinit u' in your normal env to see if you can force an issue and raise a bug if so?09:41
seb128why did you need to make it do that?09:41
seb128did they remove the logic to look at the configs?09:42
Laneyjodh: running it in a loop, seems okay09:42
darkxstseb128, not sure if they removed it, or was just an oversight, still need to check with upstream09:43
jodhLaney: try after running sbuild/pbuilder maybe if you use them on that system?09:44
Laneyhmm I had started an lxc container?09:44
jodhLaney: do you have a /var/log/upstart/upstart.state or /var/crash/*init*.crash file?09:44
Laneyafraid not09:44
jodhLaney: I'd be surprised if that caused the issue tbh09:47
Laneyjodh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6964577/ is the apt log09:49
Laney7897 is today09:49
darkxstseb128, lightdm has decided to behave theme wise today, but now I can't login to either gnome nor ubuntu sessions09:54
jodhLaney: looks like upstart was setup and therefore re-exec'd successfully (8894). The re-exec is async so its possible that the system trundled on for a while but although there are no timestamps quite a lot seems to have happened since upstart was setup. Also, there is no crash file which is unusual.09:55
darkxstperhaps fallout from the gnome-session stuff?09:56
seb128darkxst, could be, what error do you get?09:57
darkxstg-s-d name taken away shutting down09:57
darkxstthen lots of indicator-* killed by TERM09:57
seb128?09:57
seb128that seems like session exiting09:57
seb128is gnome-session unhappy?09:57
darkxstsorry can't cut + paste09:58
seb128what do you have in .cache/upstart/gnome-session-(ubuntu).log?09:58
darkxstthat is from the the lightdm log09:58
darkxstgreeter log09:58
seb128what happens?10:01
seb128you enter you password and get back to the login screen?10:01
darkxstenter password, end up with just the lightdm background and nothing more happens10:01
seb128looks at ~/.xsession-errors for your user10:02
darkxstthe gnome-session-ubuntu log has lots of noise, but nothing that looks really critical10:02
seb128then ~/.cache/upstart/gnome-session(-ubuntu).log10:02
seb128what about xsession-errors?10:02
darkxstat-spi2-registryd respawning too fast, stopped10:02
seb128nothing else? weird10:03
seb128is starting a session with gdm or startx working?10:03
darkxststartx works10:04
seb128hum, dunno then :/10:04
darkxstgdm maybe not10:05
SweetsharkI got an email request about HiDPI asking: "Do you know if they will return 192 DPI when on these screens like what Gnome 3.10 does? I could find some Unity alias and ask, but you might know or be able to encourage them ;-)" -- anyone having a quick answer to that?10:08
Sweetsharkups, and Good Morning all!10:09
darkxstSweetshark, if they are asking for HiDPI on Full HD panels, it wont happen, atleast not from the GNOME side10:09
seb128hikiko, hey10:09
hikikohi seb128 :)10:09
hikikoI ve seen your message10:09
seb128hikiko, thanks for all the updates10:09
hikikoand fixed it10:10
seb128hikiko, I just added a new one :p10:10
hikikooh sorry10:10
hikikolet me see10:10
seb128hikiko, just add those 3 lines and we should be good to merge in ;-)10:11
hikikook I ll fix it in a sec10:11
seb128hikiko, thanks!10:11
hikikoinside the <label></label>10:11
seb128                            <property name="label" translatable="yes">UI scale</property>10:11
seb128                            <style>10:11
seb128                              <class name="dim-label"/>10:11
seb128                            </style>10:11
Sweetsharkdarkxst: thanks10:11
Laneyhuh10:12
seb128hikiko, ^ like that10:12
darkxstSweetshark, the HiDPI stuff is all integer scaling, so a 1440x900 becomes 2880x180010:13
seb128Sweetshark, hidpi support is being added to Unity and is going to be in the LTS, dunno about 192 DPI and how that's a specific number10:13
hikikook, found, like all the others :)10:13
Laneyis robert or someone removing the override for g-s-d from unity?10:14
seb128hikiko, right ;-)10:14
darkxstseb128, 192DPI is quite low, probably just a 1920x1080 panel10:14
darkxstwhy do the upstart logs use "^M" as new line?10:15
seb128Laney, I don't see a branch from him for that, I can submit one10:15
Laneythat was the missing part on my system to actually use it10:15
seb128Laney, hum?10:16
hikikoseb128, I pushed :) thanks!10:16
seb128Laney, it being u-s-d?10:16
Laneyyes10:16
seb128hikiko, thanks, looking10:16
seb128Laney, that's weird, the unity override stops g-s-d if u-s-d is running10:17
seb128Laney, it should prevent u-s-d to run, it just avoid having both10:17
seb128shouldn't*10:17
seb128oh10:18
seb128you are not under Unity are you?10:18
Laneyyeah i am, on my desktop10:19
Laneyit modifies the 'start on' condition of g-s-d10:19
seb128so weird10:19
seb128I've been running u-s-d since London10:19
Laneyto start all the time10:20
seb128hum?10:20
seb128u-s-d has a job to make it start in Unity session10:20
seb128so it should run10:20
seb128the Unity override is to stop g-s-d if u-s-d is running10:20
seb128or am I overlooking something?10:21
darkxstLaney, why? only components in the session file get started for the user session (of course the greeter session is a different story)10:21
seb128Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity/drop-gsd-override/+merge/20738810:21
Laneymaybe u-s-d refused to start for me because g-s-d was running or something10:25
Laneyapproved anyway10:25
Sweetsharkseb128: I did a burn in with the highbank PPA. Building LibreOffice 4.2.1 on armhf in 8h40m.10:26
seb128Laney, thanks10:27
xnoxdah, unity-greeter is missing build-dependency on unity fonts =(10:29
* xnox goes to correct that.10:29
seb128didrocks, if there are new commits in a vcs that is a silo ppa, I can simply trigger a new build to get an update with those new commits right?10:35
seb128didrocks, do I need to check some boxes in that case?10:35
didrocksseb128: sorry, in a HO. So yeah, nothing special needed to do10:39
didrocksif you did a full build which succeeded, you will need to check "ignore step"10:39
seb128didrocks, ah oh, that's what http://162.213.34.102/job/landing-008-1-build/17/console hinted10:39
seb128"Ignore if previous step hasn't completed successfully" didn't speak to me though10:39
* seb128 checks10:39
seb128didrocks, thanks10:39
seb128(the previous step had completed successfully in my case, I just want to include extra changes)10:40
seb128larsu, so, ff today, what's the status of the sound panel and the nautilus menus? having one ready to submit soon by chance?10:41
didrocksseb128: happy to get a patch, the message is generic, we can special-case that one :)10:43
seb128didrocks, ok, let's see after ff rush ;-)10:43
larsuseb128: yes, I hope to get the sound panel / indicator-sound / g-s-d patches up before my dentist appt at 110:45
seb128larsu, ok, I'm letting you work then, good luck ;-)10:45
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seb128happyaron, hey11:31
happyaronseb128: hi11:33
seb128happyaron, how are you?11:33
happyaronseb128: fine, uploaded ibus, and several kylin packages, next item would be ibus-pinyin.11:34
seb128happyaron, have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus-pinyin/+bug/1220985 ?11:34
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1220985 in ibus-pinyin (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to latest ibus-pinyin release 1.5.0" [High,Triaged]11:34
happyaronsure yes11:34
seb128happyaron, ok, I was just pondering about that one, since ff is today11:34
seb128happyaron, thanks ;-)11:34
seb128let me know if you need sponsoring11:34
happyaronI think it's not needed, ibus-* should be convered by input method pkgset already, :)11:35
happyaron* covered11:35
seb128good11:40
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GunnarHjseb128: Hi Sebastien!12:27
seb128GunnarHj, hey12:28
GunnarHjseb128: Did you send the latest list reply privately on purpose?12:28
Laneysecret love letters12:28
* Laney is jealous12:28
seb128GunnarHj, no, let me reply to list12:28
seb128Laney, :p12:29
GunnarHjseb128: Good. :)12:29
seb128GunnarHj, thanks for pointing it out, fixed12:29
GunnarHjseb128: No problem.12:29
seb128didrocks, I guess you are too busy for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/colord-gtk/+bug/1282372 ?12:39
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1282372 in colord-gtk (Ubuntu) "[MIR] colord-gtk" [Undecided,New]12:39
seb128if you can't do it no worry, I can try mterry12:40
seb128otherwise we are going to need a ffe for https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/unity-control-center/color-panel-3.8/+merge/20708112:40
didrocksseb128: is it small?12:41
seb128didrocks, yes, wc -l *.c gives 131912:42
didrocksseb128: ok, let me finish something and on that then12:42
seb128didrocks, thanks12:42
didrocksyw :)12:42
didrocksargh, COPYING is LGPL, but there is on GPL file :/12:43
* didrocks shouldn't have apt-get source12:43
didrockssame, no GFDL license file12:43
didrocksok, will get back to that once finishing the current topic12:44
* seb128 notes that the source comes from Debian :p12:47
seb128didrocks, btw MIR review, not NEW review :p (and cjwatson said in the past that having the license not in the tarball for common-licenses one is ok)12:48
didrocksseb128: tsss, not that much of difference between the reviews :)12:49
didrocksbut yeah12:50
didrocksjust sad ;)12:50
seb128yeah12:50
Laneyooh13:00
LaneyI just went to put the kettle on and heard the drums from upstairs13:01
Laneymy session had closed13:01
Laneyno, not closed, but I was bounced back to lightdm13:01
seb128hum, did you log out and it took a while?13:01
Laneywait one second, I think I installed light-locker13:02
seb128or did it just close by itself?13:02
Laneyscreen blanking + light-locker13:02
didrocksattente_: hey, you made another victim btw, sil2100 :p13:02
sil2100attente_: cuuursee youuuu!13:02
sil2100;)13:02
Laneyochosi: you probably want to make sure that lightdm doesn't play the drums when locking ...13:03
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mlankhorstok calling in sick, I might be here if you need me, maybe not :P13:03
mptWellark! You said you wanted to talk about indicator-network13:04
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didrockshum: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/libcolord-gtk1/filelist13:11
didrocksthat's wrong in multiple ways13:11
didrockshaving locale in libs and no -common packages13:11
didrocksseb128: if I ack the Mir, can we get that fixed?13:11
seb128didrocks, sure can13:11
didrocksMIR*13:11
didrocksok13:11
* didrocks notes that down13:11
seb128just for the record taht's a non issue for us13:11
seb128the langpacks are going to strip that translation out13:12
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didrocksthe file is still there13:12
didrocksso you can't install libcolord-gtk2 and libcolord-gtk1 at the same time13:12
happyaronseb128: ah, I remember that NUDT said they may want to add a first-boot assistant or something like that.13:18
didrocksseb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/colord-gtk/+bug/128237213:20
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1282372 in colord-gtk (Ubuntu) "[MIR] colord-gtk" [Undecided,New]13:20
didrocksso approved, promoting now13:20
seb128didrocks, thanks13:20
didrocksdone13:22
seb128nice!13:23
GunnarHjLaney: ping?13:26
attente_sil2100, ;)13:36
attente_sil2100, is it a different app?13:36
Laneyhi GunnarHj13:36
GunnarHjHello Laney!13:36
GunnarHjLaney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/comments/2213:37
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1173571 in Ubuntu Seeds "please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf" [Undecided,In progress]13:37
GunnarHjWe changed to fonts-droid in Ubuntu a few months ago, and I think it's time now to make the same change for the other.13:37
GunnarHjI could submit a large number of MPs, but is there a more convenient way?13:37
Laneythe other what?13:37
Laneyoh, that13:37
GunnarHjLaney: the other distros...13:37
sil2100attente_: hi! Not sure what was the standard app that's affected, but using the gnome terminal and irssi I cannot switch to windows 12+ because alt+w opens up the menu for me ;)13:38
LaneyI don't know of a better way13:38
Laney:(13:38
GunnarHjLaney: Ok, then I'll do it.13:38
attente_sil2100, oh...13:39
LaneyGunnarHj: ack, thanks!13:39
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ochosiLaney: woot, since when does lightdm play drums? i guess this is an ubuntu-specific thing though, we've never had any startup noises/sounds in xubuntu14:16
seb128bregma, Trevinho: how is the unity landing going? what are you guys blocked on?14:16
Laneyochosi: Maybe it's unity-greeter specific14:16
Laneyit's the "i'm ready now" sound14:16
ochosimhm, possible14:16
ochosii think i heard it last in warty or hardy14:16
* ochosi feels all nostalgic...14:17
bregmaseb128, there are some issues with scaling and autopilot tests failing that I want to see resolved before this latest change lands14:17
seb128bregma, ok, I guess at this pace we are not going to get lock screen and other stuff landing before ff :/14:17
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bregmaseb128, it doesn't look to me like lock screen is ready to land :(, and there is no other stuff (other than what we have in the queue right now)14:19
ochosiso you'll be sticking with gnome-screensaver in that case? (since it seems that light-locker isn't an option anymore)14:20
seb128ochosi, not sure yet, we stopped our gnome-screensaver changes because Trevinho/andyrock/bregma said they would land their lock screen14:21
seb128I'm going to hit bregma with a stick if that doesn't happen :p14:21
ochosihihi14:21
Trevinhoseb128: andyrock is working on it14:21
ochosiwell i'm keeping my fingers crossed for you guys14:22
seb128Trevinho, well, bregma just said it's not ready to land and ff is today14:22
ochosiit's not an easy feature to implement so late14:22
seb128indeed not14:22
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seb128Laney,  gsettings-ubuntu-schemas : Depends: ubuntu-touch-sounds but it is not installable14:36
seb128:-(14:36
seb128https://launchpadlibrarian.net/166891268/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-arm64.unity-control-center_14.04.3%2B14.04.20140220-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:36
Sweetsharkseb128: so, Im looking at bug 910143 (debian#728792). I cant reproduce it, so I have no fix. However, doko wanted a tweak to it (comment 28), so we need an upload anyway.14:37
ubot2`Launchpad bug 910143 in nlpsolver (Ubuntu Trusty) "libreoffice-nlpsolver (0.9~beta1-6) not working" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91014314:37
seb128oh, arg, gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas needs a MIR as well14:38
Sweetsharkseb128: Debian doesnt really care anymore and orphaned the package. So IMHO we should indeed demote that to universe anyway, esp. in light of the "make libreoffice more rolling" stuff. Your opinion?14:39
seb128Sweetshark, if it's not maintained that seems reasonable yes14:39
Sweetsharkseb128: aye, preparing package14:40
mterryseb128, heyo!  I had a meeting today with some designers about the welcome wizard stuff.  (Cimi and I have been so busy with other stuff, but I'll try to get back on it.)  Anyway, they said they had changed the UI a bit for the wifi screen of the system settings / wizard.  Have you seen those mockups?  I can share if not14:42
seb128mterry, I didn't no, would be nice if you could share14:42
seb128mterry, thanks14:42
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seb128mterry, is there any way you could review gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas for MIR today? (going to ask Laney to file the bug when he's back)14:46
seb128mterry, we overlooked that he was in main and added a shared schemas that unity-control-center started using14:46
mterryseb128, sure.  Did I see something about colord-gtk earlier this morning too?14:46
mterry(I was up for an early meeting)14:46
seb128mterry, didrocks handled that one14:46
mterryseb128, bug 1282617 is for the wireframe stuff14:50
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1282617 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Use inline prompts for WiFi selection rather than dialogs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128261714:50
mterryer, wifi stuff (with wireframe)  ;)14:50
mterryseb128, I can start looking at gsettings schemas before bug is filed, but ping me when it is14:50
seb128mterry, ok, that should be a trivial package (only some schemas)14:52
seb128mterry, thanks for the bug report14:52
GunnarHjattente_: ping?14:56
attente_GunnarHj, hey14:57
seb128shrug, got disconnected14:57
seb128desrt, did you see my ping before I disconnect?14:57
GunnarHjHi attente!14:57
attente_GunnarHj, hello!14:57
desrtno14:57
GunnarHjattente_: Wondering about Super+Space for switching input source.14:58
GunnarHjattente_: Currently it does not work at first.14:58
seb128desrt, hey, everybody is crazy busy, any chance you could do a code review/sanity check of the diff on https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity-control-center/ibus-properties/+merge/207369 ?14:58
desrtsure14:58
GunnarHjattente_: But if you change to something else and then back to Super+Space, it works.14:58
GunnarHjattente_: Not good enough, though.14:59
seb128desrt, thanks14:59
attente_GunnarHj, under 13.10?14:59
GunnarHjattente_: No, 14.04 of course.14:59
GunnarHj   attente_: (Haven't tested on 13.10.)15:00
attente_GunnarHj, are you totally up-to-date?15:01
hikikoseb128, ping! could you please get a final look at this branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity-control-center/unity-control-center.per-monitor-fonts-scale-factor-slider/+merge/205227 and approve it if it's fine?15:01
hikikoI think it's ready15:01
GunnarHjattente_: I tested last night. Haven't tested during daytime today. :)15:01
GunnarHjattente_: But I'm on an updated 14.04, yes.15:02
GunnarHjattente_: Not a clean install, though.15:02
seb128hikiko, sorry, forgot to update you, I started a landing, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/14.04.3+14.04.20140220-0ubuntu115:02
attente_GunnarHj, ok, hmm. i restarted my session and it was still working15:02
hikikothanks a lot seb128 :)15:03
seb128hikiko, yw!15:03
GunnarHjattente_: Maybe I should make a fresh install and see if it makes a difference.15:03
GunnarHjattente_: OTOH, I have all the required packages, so why would it?15:05
attente_GunnarHj, i don't think it would15:07
GunnarHjattente_: So why does it work for you and not for me? :(15:07
mterryseb128, yeah the schemas package looks good / simple15:07
* mterry awaits MIR bug15:07
seb128mterry, thanks, good15:08
attente_GunnarHj, so explicitly setting it to super+space after login makes it work again?15:08
GunnarHjattente_: Yes, if I first switch to something else and then back.15:08
attente_GunnarHj, i can't think of what would cause that off the top of my head15:10
GunnarHjattente_: Ok... Maybe I should file a bug, and see if others make the same observation?15:10
attente_GunnarHj, if you set it to 'ctrl+space', and restart your session, does that work?15:10
GunnarHjattente_: Haven't tested that. Will need to change partition to test it.15:11
GunnarHjattente_: Do you want me to do that?15:11
attente_GunnarHj, sorry change partition?15:15
attente_sorry, i guess i misunderstood15:15
GunnarHjattente_: I'm on 13.10 now. 14.04 is on a separate partition.15:16
GunnarHjattente_: So I need to reboot...15:16
attente_GunnarHj, oh, ok, understood :)15:16
GunnarHjattente_: But let me do it and get back to you.15:17
attente_GunnarHj, ok, thanks15:17
Sweetsharkseb128: change nlpsolver as requested by doko http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/trusty/nlpsolver_0.9~beta1-9ubuntu1_source.changes please consider sponsoring (and demoting to universe as discussed). Diff is here: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/trusty/nlpsolver.diff.15:20
seb128Sweetshark, does that need to go in today (ff crazyness atm)15:21
Sweetsharkseb128: nope15:22
seb128mpt, do you have an opinion on http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/oldcolor.png vs http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/newcolor.png http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/newcolordetails.png15:22
seb128Sweetshark, ok, putting on my todo for tomorrow then15:22
seb128mpt, that's https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/unity-control-center/color-panel-3.8/+merge/207081 ... I'm pondering approved the update or not15:23
seb128mdeslaur_, thanks for the gedit fix, do you want to commit to the vcs/upload it?15:25
mdeslaur_seb128: I just commited it, and I'm about to upload it15:26
seb128mdeslaur_, thanks15:27
Laneyseb128: haha I forgot about that15:33
seb128Laney, can you drop the depends on -sound/put a landing ask for that/file the MIR? ;-)15:33
* seb128 fighting other fires15:34
Laneydrop the depends?15:34
Laneydidn't that get in?15:34
seb128Laney, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/166879153/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas_0.0.1%2B14.04.20140130.1-0ubuntu1_0.0.1%2B14.04.20140220-0ubuntu1.diff.gz15:37
seb128Laney, you apparently dropped it from the transitionnal and added to the new binary15:37
seb128Laney, sorry for not spotting that in review15:37
LaneyI merged the branches15:37
Laneythen dropped it15:37
Laneyor I meant to anyway15:37
Laneyoh well, let's see15:37
seb128Laney, well, it's there15:37
seb128so dunno what went wrong15:37
seb128didrocks, can we land the same component again if it has a landing not finished?15:38
xclaesseseb128, did you see https://plus.google.com/104908072417273204416/posts/i4pAPUU7x8i ? So it seems possible to have buttons on the left with GtkHeaderBar15:39
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seb128xclaesse, yeah, it's a GTK 3.11 feature15:39
xclaesseyep since 7e1a480015:40
seb128Laney, I guess maybe I should have listed https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/no-sounds-dep in the landing ask15:42
seb128Laney, I though it was included in https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/rename-packages/+merge/207179 though15:42
Laneyme too15:43
seb128Laney, oh well, we need a MIR and another landing to clear that depends15:43
Laneylet me just do another one15:43
seb128thanks15:43
seb128sil2100, can we land the same component again if it has a landing not finished?15:43
LaneyI think you're supposed to be able to add branches / build again15:46
seb128Laney, well, you are, but I pressed the upload button for that one already (it's in the archive)15:46
seb128so I'm unsure how that plays out15:46
Laneyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~laney/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/drop-sounds-dep-2/+merge/20747415:47
seb128no didrocks or sil2100 around though :/15:47
Laneyyou might have cyphermox or rsalveti15:47
cyphermoxmoo?15:48
Laneysee seb128's question ^15:48
seb128cyphermox, can we do another landing ask for a component which is landing15:48
cyphermoxno15:48
cyphermoxif it already has a silo you need to wait for that to be finished15:49
seb128silo 008 has gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas + unity-control-center15:49
cyphermoxor if you feel confident you could reconfigure to add the other merge15:49
seb128that got build -> uploaded15:49
cyphermoxah15:49
seb128gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas migrated to release15:49
cyphermoxthat's different then15:49
seb128but unity-control-center can't migrate15:49
cyphermoxah?15:49
seb128because of a depends on universe in gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas15:49
seb128so we need to land a new gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas without the depends15:49
seb128to let u-c-c migrate15:50
seb128is that a locked situation?15:50
cyphermoxI see15:50
seb128we can do a manual upload of gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas if that is15:50
cyphermoxwell unity-control-center is in proposed now ?15:50
seb128that should unblock u-c-c15:50
seb128then we can clean 00815:50
seb128and merge back the manual upload15:50
seb128yes15:50
seb128https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/14.04.3+14.04.20140220-0ubuntu1/15:51
seb128but it build-depends on gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas15:51
mterryseb128, oh yeah, I was going to ask about the sounds package, whether that was going to be MIRed too.  Looks like you are dropping it?15:51
cyphermoxseb128: right15:51
seb128mterry, yes15:51
seb128mterry, that was an error and CI train doesn't catch component mismatch errors15:51
sil2100seb128: I'm around, was just outside for like a few minutes to pick up my rat from the vet15:51
cyphermoxso if all of it has landed in proposed I don't see why we couldn't merge and do another landing15:51
sil2100seb128: what's up?15:51
seb128sil2100, read backlog15:51
seb128cyphermox, because you can't merge until it's in the release pocket15:52
sil2100Reading15:52
GunnarHjattente_: Good news: It works. :)15:52
cyphermoxseb128: d'oh15:52
seb128cyphermox, indeed, doh15:52
GunnarHjattente_: The one explanation I can think of is that I uninstalled g-c-c, g-s-d and gnome-session this morning.15:52
seb128well, there is a IGNORE_PACKAGES_NOTINDEST15:52
sil2100seb128: from what I know, sadly we can't do that15:52
seb128cyphermox, sil2100: should I just push that?15:52
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seb128to merge back15:53
seb128then we can get another silo for the fixed schemas?15:53
GunnarHjattente_: It does not work on 13.10, though. Not at all.15:53
Laneyseb128: please subscribe desktop-bugs meanwhile15:54
seb128GunnarHj, today is trusty ff and attente_ is working on landing features, can we report discussion about 13.10 bugs to another day?15:54
seb128Laney, did that earlier15:54
Laneyneat15:54
seb128;-)15:54
GunnarHjseb128: Sure, it was just a side remark. The main matter was a 14.04 thing.15:55
seb128which is fixed? so all good ;-)15:55
seb128cyphermox, sil2100: ok, if you don't stop me I'm going for the  IGNORE_PACKAGES_NOTINDEST to clean the silo15:56
cyphermoxfeel free.15:57
cyphermoxI have no idea what that does15:57
cyphermoxbut judging from the name, it makes sense15:57
seb128"Ignore if some packages are not published in the destination"15:57
seb128is the description15:57
cyphermoxright15:57
Laneydo it!15:57
LaneyI think that's right15:57
cyphermoxyeah15:57
Laneymterry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/+bug/1282651 if you're handling it15:57
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1282651 in gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas (Ubuntu) "[mir] gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas" [Undecided,New]15:57
seb128cyphermox, sil2100, Laney: done15:58
* Laney gets scared15:58
seb128Laney, you can put a new landing ask for https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/drop-sounds-dep-2/+merge/20747415:58
seb128the merges in trunk worked15:58
mterryLaney, yeah, thanks15:58
Laneyok15:58
Laneydone, cyphermox can you assign line 52 please?16:00
seb128Laney, you need to change the "ready" column to yes16:00
pitti_Good morning16:01
LaneyI did, don't you see it?16:01
Laneyhey pitti_!16:01
seb128Laney, cyphermox: we probably need to wait some 10 minutes for the sile 008 clean to be done16:01
Laneyhow's bay area life?16:01
seb128pitti_, hey, wie gehts?16:01
pitti_quite fine, thanks! we enjoy sun every morning when running16:01
Laneyhave you been to the vietnamese yet?16:01
pitti_no, not yet16:01
sil2100seb128: sorry, busy with a different citrain problem right now ;p But I think it's ok16:01
seb128Laney, no, it's displaying as red/no here16:01
seb128Laney, worked this time16:02
Laneyhmm, it didn't stick then16:02
Laneyunless...16:02
Laneydid I change 51 by mistake?16:02
seb128sil2100, cyphermox, Laney: silo 008 seems to be cleaned, new one can be assigned16:06
seb128sil2100, cyphermox: hello?16:10
seb128ff today, we need to get those out of the way, other landings need to happen today16:10
sil2100seb128: doing that in a moment - looking at 00816:11
seb128sil2100, it should be cleaned so you should be able to give a new silo for the component on l5216:11
seb128I wouldn't say no to have l51 assigned as well16:11
sil2100Ok16:12
sil2100seb128: assigning16:14
seb128sil2100, thanks16:14
sil2100seb128: both assigned - 51 and 5216:15
seb128thanks16:15
seb128Laney, ^16:15
Laneycool beans16:15
seb128mpt, did you see my ping about the color panel earlier? sorry to be nagging but ff is today and I'm pondering landing that or rejecting the update16:20
didrocksseb128: yeah, you can land the same component in the same silo, but need to reconfigure16:23
seb128didrocks, even if the silo is on the next step? e.g uploaded16:24
didrocksseb128: yeah16:24
didrockswell16:24
didrocksit will scratch the changelog16:24
seb128ok, I didn't know16:24
didrocksand recollect since last release16:24
didrocksbut I guess it's ok if you are stuck in proposed16:25
didrocksto unblock it16:25
seb128we solved it differently16:25
seb128I cleaned the silo with the "ignore package not in destination"16:25
seb128and we queued a new one16:25
didrocksthat works as well16:25
seb128but good to know for next time that you can go back in step16:25
didrocksbut TBH, you bypass the process to get something landed before hitting trunk :)16:25
seb128e.g that you can redo a build for something which is uploaded16:26
didrocksbut I guess for FF, there are some exceptions :p16:26
didrocksyeah16:26
seb128didrocks, well, I though we had a deadlock16:26
seb128we couldn't clean the silo beause the package couldn't migrate to release pocket16:26
didrocksah16:26
seb128and we could get a new silo for the fix because the previous one was not cleaned16:26
didrocksso that justifies that "let's rebuild"16:26
didrocksand scratch changelog :)16:26
seb128k16:26
didrocks(so yeah, I designed it for that case)16:26
seb128I though that was not possible (to go back to "build" if you had activated the "upload" step)16:27
seb128noted for next time16:27
didrocksno no, that's per design :)16:27
seb128so what would happen on the next upload16:27
seb128would it ignore the component which was already in the archive and didn't change?16:27
seb128(unity-control-center in that case)16:27
seb128"upload"16:27
seb128"publish" I should say16:28
seb128the silo had schemas + u-c-c16:28
seb128both got uploaded16:28
seb128we added a commit to schemas to fix16:28
seb128we would have retriggered build16:28
=== pitti_ is now known as pitti
seb128then publish again16:28
seb128but u-c-c had nothing to republish16:28
seb128or would it have done a changelog bump for u-c-c with empty diff?16:29
mptseb128, I did not16:34
mptsee anything about the Color panel16:34
seb128mpt, do you have an opinion on http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/oldcolor.png vs http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/newcolor.png http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/newcolordetails.png16:35
seb128mpt, that's https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/unity-control-center/color-panel-3.8/+merge/20708116:35
mptseb128, what happens if you click one of those teeny tiny triangles?16:37
seb128mpt, on the new version?16:38
mptseb128, yes16:38
seb128mpt, the third image is what you get after clicking on the one from the first line on the second image16:38
seb128http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/newcolor.png -> click on the ">" at the end of laptop screen and you get http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/newcolordetails.png16:39
mptOh, sorry, I got a “Firefox is already running but is not responding” for the third image and forgot to reopen it16:39
Laneyseb128: I published the schemas16:46
seb128Laney, thanks!16:47
mptseb128, done16:59
seb128mpt, thanks!16:59
Laneyseb128: actually, why is there a build-depends on the schemas?17:06
seb128Laney, you and your questions that make sense :p17:07
Laneywe'd still have had component-mismatches, but ..17:08
Laneyi'll fix that ...17:08
seb128Laney, it was added to b-d rather than depends, and I didn't catch it from the context diff17:08
LaneyI thought it was indirect but then realised that it wasn't17:09
seb128well to be honest robert_ancell did most of the review, I just helped to get it landing by doing the most recent iterations17:09
seb128good catch!17:09
ogra_seb128, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20140220.2.changes17:10
ogra_seb128, why did we get accountsservice-ubuntu-schemas additionally to accountsservice-ubuntu-touch-schemas17:10
Laneyit's a transitional package now17:10
seb128ogra_, we dropped the "touch" from the name, they are going to shared with desktop17:10
Laneyyou can see that with apt-cache show packagename or looking at the diff17:10
ogra_which of the two ?17:10
seb128ogra_, touch is a dummy transitional17:11
ogra_ah, cool17:11
ogra_thanks17:11
seb128ogra_, we just need to update the depends17:11
seb128yw17:11
seb128but why does it pull sound-theme-freedesktop17:11
seb128is that us?17:11
ogra_not so sure where that comes from17:11
ogra_i was assuming its a dep of the gsettings schemas though17:11
ogra_(is that stallman playing flute ? )17:12
seb128ogra_, no, those are the "bong" etc sounds from desktop effects (e.g stuff when clicking on UI elements, we didn't enable that for ages)17:14
ogra_ah, yeah, i remeber17:14
Laneyindicator-datetime started using canberra17:16
seb128ah17:17
ogra_hmm17:18
ogra_could that become a recommends ?17:18
seb128charles_, tedg: ^?17:18
Laneyhe means the sound theme from libvorbis17:18
LaneyI don't think that's to do with those tywo17:18
seb128oh17:19
seb128I guess that would work17:19
Laneys/vorbis/canberra/17:20
tedgWe're using it for a sound on alarms.17:21
tedgI thought that was the recommended way to "make a bong" when the alarm pops up.17:21
LaneyIt's fine17:22
Laneyand I think the dependency is correct per the spec17:22
Laneybug #79060817:22
ubot2`Launchpad bug 790608 in libcanberra (Ubuntu) "libcanberra needs to depend on sound-theme-freedesktop" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79060817:22
seb128ok17:22
seb128that's a small enough package17:22
seb128Laney, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-control-center/info-backport-commits/+merge/207504 for me? (or just wave it as ok ;-)17:23
rvrseb128: Hey... I'm told that the tests I did for ubuntu-system-settings aren't running in CI, do you know anything about that?17:23
seb128Laney, that's a a backport of most of the cleanups/fixes from https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-control-center/log/panels/info?h=gnome-3-817:23
seb128rvr, om26er pinged us about it, and no, ask CI?17:23
seb128rvr, I don't know what is needed for that to happen, I've no control on what is running in CI17:24
Laneywhat is CI? they are running in the smoke testing but not the merger17:24
Laneyand we just got a dummy MP so I think he is setting it up17:24
rvrseb128: Ack, just asking in case you were aware17:24
Laneyseb128: that looks fine, I don't want to re-review the upstream changes ;-)17:24
seb128Laney, yeah, I just didn't want to ack it myself, thanks (I built/tested it)17:25
Laneydid you manage to cherry-pick / merge that stuff with bzr properly btw?17:25
om26erseb128, rvr Laney I proposed a fix t cupstream2distro-config and now its deployed. So now autopilot tests will run on both mako and a desktop in CI17:25
seb128thanks17:25
rvrGreat17:26
seb128Laney, not for that one, too much work/slowness17:26
Laneyfair enough17:27
seb128sorry about that, ff rush :/17:27
Laneynah, it's okay17:27
Laneyi was going to troll about how great it would have been with git :P17:27
seb128lol17:27
seb128Laney, can you at least comment approve the merge? ;-)17:29
Laneyhey desrt, I liked your post!17:30
ogra_tedg, well, i was worried about the package name ... i dont want stallmans flute wake me up on alarms ...17:30
tedgogra_, Oh, we're totally going to have to do that as an easter egg...17:31
ogra_shudder17:31
LaneyI don't feel happy about porting stuff away from logind to <neutral interface> a few months after I ported a load of things /to/ logind, but ho hum, it's more sane17:31
Laneyseb128: will do, sec17:31
seb128Laney, thanks17:31
Laneyif you're landing it then maybe make it go with my dep fix17:32
seb128Laney, if you mp the schemas b-d->depends in the next 15 min I can also include that in the landing I'm about the put on17:32
Laneyjust test building it17:32
seb128cool17:32
Laneydunno why... it's only a dep change17:32
seb128it's cold out there, need to heat the room? :p17:32
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LaneyI guess I did take away a BD17:34
Laneyschemas silo is cleaned17:37
desrtLaney: thanks :)17:40
seb128Laney, was that your first CI train landing?17:40
Laneyyeah17:40
seb128well done ;-)17:41
Laneyglad it was an easy one17:42
=== MalcontentMatt is now known as mjohnson15
bregmaseb128, were you landing a u-c-c branch for Marco?17:50
seb128bregma, I still am17:50
seb128bregma, please don't "lock" u-c-c, I've like 10 merges to land still :p17:50
seb128bregma, it's going in the coming batch (if that's still ok with you)17:51
bregmaseb128, I was just making sure it gets in soon17:51
* bregma is tying up loose ends17:51
seb128yeah, I'm on it17:51
Laneynothing like a deadline eh17:54
seb128yeah17:56
seb128sil2100, didrocks: can I get silo for my 2 recent requets? ;-) I've another u-c-c landing to do later tonight after that one17:57
didrocksseb128: mind pinging the US guys? And I don't know where sil2100 is…17:57
didrocks:)17:57
seb128cyphermox, ^17:58
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seb128robru, ^18:04
robruseb128, yes, I am just trying to free up some silos for you. we are very short currently18:05
seb128k18:05
LaneyMOAR SILOS18:06
Laney2, 8, 19, 20 look free18:07
=== m_conley_away is now known as m_conley
didrocksgood luck guys, see you tomorrow :)18:17
cyphermoxseb128: which lines?18:18
seb128didrocks, night18:18
seb128cyphermox, robru assigned 55, 56 still needing a slot18:18
robruseb128, on it18:18
seb128thanks18:18
cyphermoxoh, alright18:19
robruseb128, that one got silo 1.18:19
seb128great18:19
cyphermoxplease, #u-ci-eng for this18:22
Laneynight all18:23
Laneyhappy feature freeze18:23
Laneytomorrow all will be calm18:23
mlankhorstyeah getting to do a last minute inclusion of vdpau for radeon, fun fun18:24
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* Trevinho loves FF atmosphere...19:13
seb128Trevinho, you like grumpy people?19:31
Trevinhonot much19:32
seb128Trevinho, just stuff landing like crazy? ;-)19:35
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, and also the feeling which is both excitement and rage of making the possible to get things in :)19:36
seb128Trevinho, speaking of which, are you guys getting unity in or not? ;-)19:36
Trevinhoseb128: it's landing according to the ci-train19:36
Trevinhoseb128: I've tested u-c-c and seems working fine here btw19:37
seb128Trevinho, I saw it on trusty-changes, crazyness!19:37
seb128Trevinho, u-c-c is in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-001/ if you want to test19:37
seb128Trevinho, I'm about to test/copy to Ubuntu19:37
Trevinhoseb128: cool19:38
xnox..19:41
xnoxhow to take lightdm screenshot?19:41
seb128xnox, take out your mobile, take a photo of the screen19:41
desrtlowtech :)19:43
xnoxseb128: it's funny how i can have VM and take screenshots of that.... but not my own display =/19:43
seb128xnox, we are protecting your privacy, nobody can see what is on your screen!19:43
xnoxseb128: i can protect my own privacy.... with my fist19:44
xnoxalso who broke ubiquity?!19:44
* seb128 hides19:44
seb128what's the issue?19:44
xnoxseb128: python crash on boot of some random crap.19:44
seb128oh, python, sounds like "doko"19:45
seb128ups19:45
xnoxseb128: hm... has unity-settings-daemon land without change ubiquity to launch it?19:45
seb128you are the one who landing u-s-d19:45
seb128tell me!19:46
xnoxseb128: =)19:46
xnoxseb128: actually it can be doko / python3.419:47
seb128yeah, I would blame that19:47
seb128it creates issues for gedit as well19:47
seb128xnox, btw what's up with that happening just before ff without being announced?19:49
* seb128 doesn't like how foundations is rolling19:49
seb128or maybe it's just doko19:49
xnoxseb128: daily desktop iso is fucked completely.... autologin doesn't happen. and kvm is busted.19:49
xnoxseb128: python3.4 by default for 14.04 was announced in Copenhagen.19:50
seb128did it need to happen the day before fF?19:50
seb128when everything else is happening19:50
seb128xnox, :-(19:50
xnoxseb128: oh yeah. it could have only happened with an rc1, as that's when the api/abi is frozen.19:50
seb128the autologin might a lightdm issue, I don' tknow19:50
seb128kvm doesn't seem to be us19:50
xnoxseb128: we are looking to ship final with rc and and update to final as like a 0-day sru.19:51
xnoxso yeah, hilarious python3 was expected.19:51
xnoxseb128: just wait for Qt5.2 ;-)19:51
seb128yeah, more fun coming!19:52
sil2100attente_: aargh! In vim on the terminal, alt+p opens up a menu for me as well ;p20:39
attente_sil2100, lol.. sorry!20:44
sil2100attente_: no problem ;) Will wait for a fix though!20:44
seb128sil2100, use a graphical editor!20:44
larsuwhat does <alt>p even do?20:44
* larsu tries20:44
sil2100larsu: once you yank something and are not in visual, it usually puts (pastes) stuff ;)20:45
seb128larsu, nothing if under unity since the menu is grabbing those?20:45
attente_sil2100, you need <alt> for that?20:45
sil2100larsu: but yeah, right now unity grabs it20:45
larsusil2100: hm, I thought just 'p' did that20:45
sil2100attente_: yes, since I want to do that while in insert mode20:46
attente_sil2100, workaround is to switch display languages so that no menu uses 'p' for a mnemonic :P20:46
larsuseb128: stop working! :P20:46
sil2100I don't want to get out the edit mode to paste stuff ;)20:46
seb128larsu, desrt: joke aside if you guys have an idea to help attente there, otherwise we might have to revert that fix and get to menu keybindings not working (or "how do we grab keybindings for apps without hijacking the ones for the command line)20:46
seb128larsu, you stop working *g*20:46
larsuseb128: I'm cooling down after a run. Just hanging out on irc and not working20:47
larsuthat's a tricky problem20:47
seb128larsu, same for me, except it's after a meal :p20:47
attente_mnemonic blacklist *ducks*20:47
larsuin-process, gnome-terminal can just disable the mnemonics20:47
seb128larsu, it indeed is :/20:47
larsuattente_: right...20:47
desrtthis is interesting20:48
larsuwe could also hack it by patching g-t to not include underscores in their menus20:48
* larsu runs from desrt20:48
desrtmatch unity-gtk-module to recognise when it is running in a process called g-t20:48
desrtand have it remove the _20:48
larsubah20:48
seb128how hackish can it get20:48
desrtor have it detect the condition that gnome-terminal is itself using to disable this20:48
larsuyou want a hack with your hack?20:48
larsuseb128: lol :)20:48
desrtgnome-terminal is really unique here...20:49
attente_are other apps using mnemonic keybindings for shortcuts?20:49
desrti'm surprised it puts mnemonics in its menu at all20:49
desrtsince it just disables them anyway20:49
larsuif (g_str_equal (process, "gnome-terminal")) ...20:49
larsudesrt: it has an option for that20:49
desrtand what does the option do?20:49
seb128call some gtk api which is deprecated20:50
attente_the option sets a gtk setting20:50
larsuedit / keyboard shortcuts / enable menu access keys20:50
larsudesrt: it removes _20:50
seb128https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkSettings.html#GtkSettings--gtk-enable-mnemonics20:50
desrtso have the unity-gtk-module look at that setting20:50
seb128^20:50
attente_gtk-enable-mnemonics20:50
desrtand disable sending mnemonics if it is off20:50
larsusounds right to me20:50
desrtseems pretty easy....20:50
seb128well, attente_ said that would affect the session and not only one software20:50
larsudesrt: it might be even better to look at this from the menubar - is there a way to get xsettings for a foreign window?20:51
desrtseb128: he should do it in unity-gtk-module20:51
desrtlarsu: xsettings (and definitely gtksettings) does not work this way20:51
larsudesrt: that'll only work as long as g-t is not using gmenumodel20:51
larsudesrt: that's what I thought20:51
larsuwhich is why I asked20:51
attente_so we want to look at that GtkSetting only if the current process is 'g-t'?20:53
larsuno20:53
desrtno20:53
desrtalways20:53
larsualways look at it, but in unity-gtk-module20:53
larsusince that's in the same process20:53
attente_but then it's affecting other applications which don't have that option20:53
larsuand which won't set that setting20:55
larsuso u-g-m won't touch their menus20:55
attente_larsu, but that means the setting in g-t affects other apps, no?20:55
desrtattente_: do the change in _unity-gtk-module_20:56
desrtinside only the one app20:56
desrtjust take the '_' out the names of the menu items20:56
larsuattente_: no, the settings are for the process (if i understand them correctly)20:58
attente_i thought GtkSettings were shared among applications20:58
desrtthey are20:58
desrtbut they can also be locally overridden20:58
desrtwhich is what gnome-terminal is doing20:58
attente_oh20:59
larsuI've been meaning to read up on xsettings21:00
larsubut then, they'll be gone soon so whatever :)21:00
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attente_bschaefer, i guess that's the bug?21:34
bschaeferattente_, alright, well it was mentioned to me so a bug was made. Wasn't sure if there was a different bug21:35
bschaefermade yet at lease21:35
bschaeferattente_, and if there wasn't now you have one :)21:35
attente_bschaefer, oh, i see. none i'm aware of :)21:35
bschaeferattente_, cool, well then that part is sorted haha21:36
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xnoxrobert_ancell: do you know of a way to take lightdm screenshots?21:47
robert_ancellxnox, no easy way that I know of21:47
robert_ancellxnox, you can run gnome-screensaver in the greeter if you set the XAUTHORITY (find it from the lightdm.log)21:48
ochosii presume the --test-mode can't get a resolution different from 640x480, right?21:48
ochosi(that's the only way i've ever taken greeter-screenshots)21:48
xnoxwell, test-mode was rendering things different from the real thing.21:49
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