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| inahandizha | http://VisitsToMoney.com/index.php?refId=386970 | 06:15 |
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| ppisati | yo yo yo | 07:47 |
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| apw | yo | 08:36 |
| ogra_ | ghurt | 08:36 |
| cking | smb, i'm of the opinion IPMI probably be should be for x86 specific arches for T and we don't consider any other support of IPMI by default for other arches | 11:34 |
| apw | yeah for now, the upstream advise was an x86 centric thing, so leavin the others =m sounds reasonable | 11:35 |
| apw | and we can fix those on a whine by whine basis | 11:35 |
| smb | cking Agreed. I don't know enough about what exists or not in the Arm world to make any better decision | 11:35 |
| apw | i am assuming ppisati is sorting out a patch (if he hasn't already) | 11:35 |
| smb | apw, Yeah | 11:35 |
| cking | apw, ppisati has sent a patch, and I've commented on it, so I guess another iteration is required to turn it back to =m for anything apart from x86 | 11:36 |
| smb | I just saw that from x86 world where you can have some ipmi support but no declaration of it, that default probe just reads from "known" port addresses | 11:36 |
| smb | But that likely has complete other meaning in Arm | 11:36 |
| cking | bad x86 centric world view | 11:36 |
| smb | cking, come first serve first... :-P but yeah | 11:37 |
| infinity | Wait, why is there ipmi support in the kernel at all? | 11:39 |
| infinity | What has Intel done now? | 11:39 |
| infinity | cking: Please tell me this doesn't mean what I think it means (listening to the world with a known-insecure protocol, so everyone and their dog can reboot my computer?) | 11:43 |
| * cking is now overly concerned too | 11:47 | |
| smb | infinity, ITs an interface to a BMC which should work even when no network access for the bmc has been set up | 11:51 |
| smb | The driver only "listens" to a character device | 11:51 |
| infinity | smb: Right, okay. So, it's the module that ipmitool uses for localhost access. | 11:52 |
| infinity | smb: That's all that's being discussed here? | 11:52 |
| smb | infinity, Yes | 11:52 |
| infinity | smb: Still feels bloaty and wrong to have that build into the zImage, but no, not overly dangerous on x86, I'd guess. | 11:52 |
| infinity | s/build/built/ | 11:52 |
| smb | infinity, That we changed ipmi_si (system interface driver, that char device this) to be built-in because it apparently can be a problem if not (on x86) | 11:53 |
| cking | compared to ACPI, it's not that bloaty | 11:53 |
| smb | infinity, Right now it probably is. And not well understood either (hence the fail for probing) | 11:54 |
| infinity | cking: Compared to ACPI, my mom's slim. | 11:54 |
| smb | infinity, It might be in future when Arm gets not well implemented acpi tables in larger scale... | 11:54 |
| infinity | smb: On ARM today, the IPMI driver Just Works on the three pieces of hardware that have IPMI BMCs, but probably scribbles the heck all over random memory on everything else. :P | 11:55 |
| infinity | It's like a return to the dark ages of ISA probing. | 11:56 |
| infinity | "Is that a video card over there? Maybe a network card? Wait, I think it's a. Oh, nevermind, we'll just hang now. And maybe play an awful tone on the PC speaker just because we hate you so." | 11:56 |
| smb | infinity, Yeah I would have to re-read it but probably when it found something with the other methods acpi, pci, smi it does not try the "default" method | 11:56 |
| smb | And nobody ever wondered whether that default method is working anywhere outside x86... :-P | 11:57 |
| brendand | bjf, i've lost track of the cadence. is this one ending on the 7th of march? | 13:37 |
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| bjf | brendand, yes | 13:55 |
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| Doctor_Nick | Hi, the wrong kernel version is in 3.14rc3 on the kernel ppa, can someone please fix this? | 15:27 |
| Doctor_Nick | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14-rc3-trusty/ | 15:27 |
| apw | Doctor_Nick, think i have found a variable aliasing issue, so the binaries are 3.14-rc3 just the .debs are named wrong | 15:30 |
| apw | i'll let it rebuild and see if that resolves it | 15:30 |
| Doctor_Nick | apw: cool, thanks | 15:32 |
| Doctor_Nick | apw: btw, where are the source packages for these? | 15:32 |
| apw | Doctor_Nick, there are no source packages, they are built from the source you get by checking out the commit listed in "COMMIT" and then applying the patches in the same directory | 15:33 |
| apw | Doctor_Nick, having the source pacakges too would about double the disk needed for each build | 15:34 |
| Doctor_Nick | true, the kernel package is pretty big | 15:34 |
| Doctor_Nick | what's the url for the source repo? | 15:35 |
| Doctor_Nick | oh, you mean directly from the kernel.org git? | 15:36 |
| _bjf | Doctor_Nick, our trusty git repo is at git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-trusty.git | 15:38 |
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| Doctor_Nick | ah, ok | 15:38 |
| apw | Doctor_Nick, though in the case of v3.14-rc3 that tag comes direct from the kernel.org repos | 15:46 |
| Doctor_Nick | ok, thanks | 15:47 |
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| ogra_ | wheee ! beaglebones ! | 17:17 |
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| ppisati | ogra_: you what's a pity? that i had to manually craft my own installation for it... if only we had a tool that created custom ubuntu dd-able images... ahhhh.... :) | 17:43 |
| ppisati | *you know | 17:43 |
| ogra_ | i'm working on reviving rootstock ... but currentl touch is the only stuff that works in rootstock-ng | 17:44 |
| ppisati | ogra_: you know there's a rainy weekend in front of us, right? :) | 17:46 |
| ogra_ | in italy perhaps :P | 17:46 |
| ogra_ | germany has sun and springy waether all the time ;) | 17:46 |
| ppisati | :) | 17:48 |
| JanC | > 10 °C expected for tomorrow here too... | 17:54 |
| JanC | and around that for the weekend too, with maybe some rain on Saturday before noon, and sun after that :) | 17:55 |
| rsalveti | apw: infinity: why did we published the 4.4 based kernels? | 18:19 |
| rsalveti | mako/manta | 18:19 |
| apw | rsalveti, i don't recall doing anything there | 18:20 |
| rsalveti | it seems infinity copied them over | 18:20 |
| apw | erp | 18:21 |
| rsalveti | alright, as long we don't rebuild the android package until I'm able to drop the 4.4.2 version (which should hopefully happen tomorrow), we're still good | 18:23 |
| rsalveti | otherwise mako/manta will not even boot properly | 18:23 |
| apw | it looks like we uploaded it to the PPA correctly, but i cannot account for them moving out | 18:23 |
| rsalveti | yeah, guess infinity just moved everything that made sense (maybe because of FF) | 18:24 |
| apw | hmmm, yeah, i guess if things catch on fire we'll have to work out how to shove the old contents back into the new branch for a bit | 18:28 |
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| jtaylor | hi todays kernel update seem to have broke perf | 19:48 |
| bjf | jtaylor, details? kernel version ? | 19:49 |
| jtaylor | /usr/lib/linux-tools/3.13.0-11-generic/perf -> ../linux-tools-3.13.0-11/perf | 19:49 |
| jtaylor | but its in /usr/lib/linux-tools-3.13.0-11/perf | 19:49 |
| jtaylor | one level down more | 19:49 |
| bjf | apw, ^ ? | 19:49 |
| apw | bjf, ta | 19:51 |
| bjf | i'm sure | 19:51 |
| apw | jtaylor, heh, that i could believe, i am doing a test build right now for tools so i will check it out | 19:52 |
| jtaylor | thx | 19:52 |
| jtaylor | < on trusty | 19:52 |
| apw | jtaylor, bah yeah that is just plain wrongo, will sort it out, i assume you can find your perf binary by hand in the interim | 19:53 |
| jtaylor | yes I fixed the link and it works | 19:54 |
| apw | jtaylor, well that at least is positive, i'll let these build complete and check i have sorted the pooch | 19:55 |
| apw | i suspect this and the ipmi issue might mean it is worth doing an upload sooner rather than later | 19:56 |
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| miseria | la palabra manipuladora que dice un perdedor y arrogante pacifista si no estas conmigo, eres mi enemigo bienvenidos httpcastroruben.com temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival | 22:39 |
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