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| * slangasek waves | 16:00 | |
| jodh | o/ | 16:01 |
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| * cjwatson particles | 16:01 | |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 16:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Feb 20 16:02:02 2014 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:01 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 16:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round | ||
| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu) | 16:02 |
| slangasek | doko stokachu cjwatson jodh bdmurray barry xnox slangasek stgraber | 16:02 |
| slangasek | doko: here? | 16:03 |
| doko | - working on python 3.4 as the default updates. still a few issues, pending pack | 16:03 |
| doko | ages are: pystache, pyside. pytbles, aptdaemon, system-image | 16:03 |
| doko | - transitions ... | 16:03 |
| doko | - toolchain update | 16:03 |
| doko | (done) | 16:03 |
| caribou | slangasek: s/stokachu/caribou/ | 16:04 |
| stgraber | caribou: your turn then :) | 16:07 |
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| caribou | nothing particular on our side | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | Finished first pass at HTTPS support in d-i (included giant base-installer merge which took a while). Awaiting CTS feedback before backporting to precise. | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | Spent most of the week in a cave hacking on libclick. I now have over 4000 lines of C code, though a lot of it's quite formulaic translation work; should be within a week of landing this. See FFe bug 1282311. | 16:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1282311 in click (Ubuntu) "[FFe] libclick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1282311 | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | Went through Debian auto-sync dry-run report looking for easy and reasonably safe bug-fix syncs. Found nearly 100. | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | Continued Debian TC discussions. | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | .. | 16:09 |
| jodh | * core-1311-cgroup-manager: | 16:09 |
| jodh | - upstart: async tests have identified a state machine bug in the async | 16:09 |
| jodh | branch which I'm currently investigating. | 16:09 |
| jodh | * UDS | 16:09 |
| jodh | - Raised blueprints: | 16:09 |
| jodh | - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1403-systemd-transition | 16:09 |
| jodh | - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1403-session-init-systemd-migration | 16:09 |
| jodh | * boot: | 16:09 |
| * slangasek pokes the network | 16:10 | |
| jodh | - Merged lp:~cameronnemo/upstart/ipv6. | 16:10 |
| slangasek | so, how much of anything made it through before my network collapsed on me? | 16:10 |
| jodh | - Created basic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers page. | 16:10 |
| jodh | փ | 16:10 |
| stgraber | slangasek: 16:03 < slangasek> doko: here? | 16:10 |
| stgraber | slangasek: I'll paste you the log | 16:10 |
| slangasek | heh :) | 16:10 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: nothing really | 16:10 |
| slangasek | stgraber: nah, I'll grab it from irclogs.u.c | 16:10 |
| stgraber | slangasek: ok | 16:10 |
| bdmurray | tested issue with retracers and a core dump that retraced well for me but not in canonistack (precise version of gdb) | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | research into failed to retrace bugs for seb128 | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | created a duplicate signature for kerneloops reports using linux package hook | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | worked with ogasawara regarding oopstext and dupe signatures | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | uploaded apport with dupesig changes to trusty | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | updated apport to include package version in Package section of kerneloops crashes | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | uploaded kerneloops enabled package to trusty | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | emailed ubuntu-quality regarding kerneloops | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | investigation into carriage return in errors buckets and querying of cassandra issue | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | changed apport not to use a line feed in the duplicate signature for kerneloops'es | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | fixed errors issue with characters in bucket ids pertinent to kerneloops reports | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | research into package rate of crash changes for the phased-updater | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | package rate of crashes work (setup test queries using cassandra.py) | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | updated new and eol release tasks with error tracker information | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | submitted a merge proposal for aptdaemon bug 1266844 | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | uploaded a fix for usb-creator bug 1259111 | 16:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1266844 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) "crash in gtk3widgets.py: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'append'" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1266844 | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | merge proposal to fix unattended-upgrades reboot dry-run bug | 16:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1259111 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/usb-creator-gtk:UnboundLocalError:<lambda>:_device_changed:_udisks_obj_added:_udisks_partition_added" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1259111 | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | patch pilot | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | +1 maintenance | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | SRU admin work with carges | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | google hangout with server team manager regarding bug reports | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | ⌁ done | 16:11 |
| barry | system-image: LP: #1277589. much testing, probably have a good fix in lieu of u-d-m patches. struggling to get successful ppa build. test suite problems with dbus-daemon that aren't evident in local sbuilds - trying again on devirt ppa, and if that doesn't work, i can sleep(2) my way around it i think. update: looks like devirt doesn't help. :( time 2 sleep, er. time.sleep(2) | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1277589 in ubuntu-download-manager "Better protection against concurrent access" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277589 | 16:12 |
| barry | ubu/deb: enum34 0.9.23-1 | 16:12 |
| barry | python: issue 20687 (expectedFailure regression affecting autopilot) | 16:12 |
| barry | later today: hangout chat about py3 autopilot | 16:12 |
| barry | done | 16:12 |
| xnox | * assisting ci with queries about emulator (ci has work in progress to | 16:12 |
| xnox | drive emulator cloud instances to execute all tests and aggregate | 16:12 |
| xnox | results) | 16:12 |
| xnox | * ongoing discussions about autpilot python3 migration: | 16:12 |
| xnox | - write up of the plan at | 16:12 |
| xnox | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-python3-roadmap | 16:12 |
| xnox | - follow up chat between autopilot, qa, and foundations later today | 16:12 |
| xnox | * frantically doing last-minute merges pre-FF + forwaring things to | 16:12 |
| xnox | debian as applicable. And patch-piloting interesting fixes. | 16:12 |
| xnox | * completed all dmraid2mdadm patches, did not resolve migration path | 16:13 |
| xnox | for existing dmraid installation - requested feedback on | 16:13 |
| xnox | ubuntu-devel about it. | 16:13 |
| xnox | * fixing up artwork in a few places for 14.04: | 16:13 |
| xnox | - lightdm logo (now dynamically generated) | 16:13 |
| xnox | - updated d-i logo (no more vintage) | 16:13 |
| xnox | - plymouth logo update pending design review (circle of friends must | 16:13 |
| xnox | be orange, not aubergine) | 16:13 |
| xnox | * looking into reported boost test-suite failures, whilst it's | 16:13 |
| xnox | interesting to see how broken the test-suites are, some of these | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | jodh: I made core-1403-session-init-systemd-migration depend on core-1403-systemd-transition, since systemd's session supervision support requires that systemd is pid 1 | 16:13 |
| xnox | problems are upstream and not distribution/specific. | 16:13 |
| xnox | * Working on testing grub-installer, to always honor the preseed | 16:13 |
| xnox | target device for grub installation. Will upload soon. | 16:13 |
| xnox | .. | 16:13 |
| jodh | cjwatson: thanks. core-1403-session-init-systemd-migration is arguably misnamed though iff we can find a way to emulate the events that the Session Init currently gets via the upstart-event-bridge. | 16:14 |
| jodh | cjwatson: if that were possible, there would be no dependency. | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | jodh: well, there's a bidirectional dependency that might be broken one way | 16:15 |
| jodh | cjwatson: but clearly they are related, so I guess it makes sense for now :) | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | jodh: but if we wanted to use systemd as the session init as well, then there is a dependency there | 16:15 |
| jodh | cjwatson: ack | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | i.e. your c) | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | anyway, feel free to remove the dep if you feel appropriate, I just wanted a link to exist :) | 16:16 |
| jodh | cjwatson: agreed | 16:16 |
| slangasek | barry: do you want any more eyeballs on the system-image ppa build problem today? | 16:17 |
| barry | slangasek: yes, please! it would be nice to have a proper build and not depend on ugly sleeps | 16:18 |
| slangasek | barry: ok, link me after the meeting please :) | 16:18 |
| barry | slangasek: will do | 16:18 |
| slangasek | barry, xnox: should I sit in on the python3 autopilot hangout later? | 16:18 |
| barry | slangasek: sure | 16:19 |
| slangasek | * job description handed over to HR for the Java role | 16:19 |
| slangasek | * heavily focused on customer-facing work this week | 16:19 |
| slangasek | (done) | 16:19 |
| slangasek | ^^ if you know any java people, send 'em my way :) | 16:19 |
| stgraber | LXC: | 16:19 |
| stgraber | - Released rc1, rc2, rc3 and rc4. | 16:19 |
| stgraber | - Prepared the release announcements, website update, ... for the final release later today. | 16:19 |
| stgraber | - Switched the LXC daily PPA to building with cgmanager by default. | 16:19 |
| stgraber | - Got all the tests passing both with and without cgmanager (found a couple of interesting issues in the process). | 16:19 |
| stgraber | - Finished my blog post series on LXC 1.0 just in time for release. | 16:19 |
| stgraber | - Fixed a ton of coverity reported issues and a few other bugs. | 16:19 |
| stgraber | - Code reviews and testing of last minute changes. | 16:19 |
| stgraber | CGManager: | 16:19 |
| stgraber | - Tested cgmanager on all supported releases and now happily using it on precise! | 16:19 |
| stgraber | - Started working on patches to our logind so it can use cgmanager and skip cgroupfs entirely. | 16:20 |
| stgraber | Other: | 16:20 |
| stgraber | - Fixed a couple of issues with shadow and user namespaces (don't give uid/gid ranges to system users and give 65536 uids by default to others). | 16:20 |
| stgraber | (DONE) | 16:20 |
| xnox | slangasek: if you have time, it might be interesting =) as some of us have conflicting opinions of what autopilot is and what's the long term future for python2-autopilot is. | 16:21 |
| slangasek | xnox, barry: the whiteboard on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-python3-roadmap is a good starting point, but maybe it would help to have a wiki page writeup that goes into more detail, before the meeting, to explain how the outlined steps get us to where we want to be | 16:22 |
| slangasek | any questions over status above? | 16:23 |
| slangasek | caribou: sorry, irclogs.u.c is unhelpfully not refreshing for me, so I don't see if you had a chance to talk during the lightning round | 16:24 |
| caribou | slangasek: yes I did, nothing particular at this time | 16:24 |
| slangasek | ok | 16:24 |
| barry | slangasek, cjwatson well, maybe the devirt ppa *did* work: https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/systemimage/+build/5621116 | 16:24 |
| slangasek | barry: ... "fun" :) | 16:25 |
| slangasek | why do you people keep writing software that's sensitive to the differences between our different ppas, sheesh :) | 16:25 |
| barry | slangasek: there are still a few dbus errors in the output, but these ones don't affect test suite. shall we declare victory and move on? :) | 16:25 |
| slangasek | barry: yes | 16:25 |
| xnox | barry: you can do binary copy into the archive from de-virt ppa without recompilation =) | 16:25 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] FeatureFreeze | 16:25 |
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| slangasek | speaking of moving on | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | barry: random guesses 'r' us. let's hope it isn't racy though | 16:25 |
| slangasek | xnox: :P | 16:26 |
| barry | cjwatson: i'm very good at hitting "retry" :) | 16:26 |
| slangasek | I don't think there was any pre-announcement of it this time around, but lo, today is the feature freeze for trusty | 16:26 |
| xnox | slangasek: i have a few packages that do [ -e /CurrentlyBuilding ] && | 16:26 |
| slangasek | so, y'know, adjust your uploading accordingly | 16:26 |
| xnox | slangasek: so what's the qt5.2 status w.r.t. FF then? | 16:27 |
| barry | xnox: that's the thing. it *only* fails on the virt ppas | 16:27 |
| slangasek | a very good question | 16:27 |
| * barry blames hardy | 16:27 | |
| slangasek | there are certainly a number of packages that we're looking for standing FFes for wrt the phone | 16:27 |
| slangasek | I think we still need to get qt5.2 in... but it's obviously not made it in before the FF | 16:28 |
| slangasek | I'll be checking with ScottK to understand how this impacts the non-phone | 16:29 |
| xnox | barry: re-autopilot a list of all affected packages/branches would be good: e.g. emulators and clicks. | 16:29 |
| xnox | slangasek: right, there are very little Qt5 !touch packages in the archive. | 16:29 |
| barry | xnox: i had that once, before the london rain washed it all away. will try to resurrect it | 16:29 |
| slangasek | xnox: any chance you can tell at a glance which ones are !touch? I couldn't work it out from the names alone | 16:30 |
| xnox | slangasek: however, KDE Framework5 is planned to be released shortly after 14.04 and it is expected that kubuntu will want to provide 5.2 based framework5 via blessed kubuntu PPAs. | 16:30 |
| xnox | slangasek: i'll do that quickly. | 16:30 |
| slangasek | xnox: ok, so it's to their advantage to have 5.2 in and stable for 14.04, and it won't (in theory) disrupt anything they're currently working on | 16:31 |
| xnox | slangasek: correct. | 16:31 |
| slangasek | good to hear - we'll still want to confirm that with the kubuntu team directly, but at least it sounds like we have a way forward in spite of the late landing | 16:32 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] UDS | 16:32 |
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| slangasek | UDS is only 3 weeks away | 16:32 |
| slangasek | while it's ok to not have a lot of new discussion sessions mid-cycle - I'm sure we all have plenty of work items still from the blueprints at last UDS - if you *do* have topics you think we need to discuss, please get the blueprints registered this week | 16:33 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 16:34 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| slangasek | anything else? | 16:34 |
| slangasek | fwiw, see your email regarding an upcoming sprint that's being planned | 16:36 |
| slangasek | the dates are a bit awkward for those in the US/UK | 16:36 |
| slangasek | any questions, you can grab me on mumble or IRC :) | 16:37 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 16:38 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Feb 20 16:38:51 2014 UTC. | 16:38 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-02-20-16.02.moin.txt | 16:38 |
| slangasek | thanks, all! | 16:38 |
| barry | thanks! | 16:38 |
| jodh | thanks! | 16:38 |
| stgraber | thanks! | 16:39 |
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| czajkowski | aloha | 17:01 |
| czajkowski | cprofitt: dholbach mhall119 ping | 17:01 |
| cub | hi | 17:01 |
| mhall119 | here | 17:01 |
| czajkowski | #startmeeting | 17:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Feb 20 17:02:10 2014 UTC. The chair is czajkowski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 17:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 17:01 |
| czajkowski | aloha and welcome to this weeks Community Council meeting | 17:02 |
| dholbach | o/ | 17:02 |
| czajkowski | this weeks meeting we're meeting with Xubuntu folks | 17:02 |
| czajkowski | anyone here from the team ? | 17:03 |
| * cprofitt raises hand | 17:03 | |
| cprofitt | just made it | 17:03 |
| === czajkowski changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Xubuntu Catch up | ||
| cprofitt | not from the Xubuntu team though | 17:03 |
| czajkowski | anyone here from the Xubuntu team ? | 17:03 |
| czajkowski | if not we can move onto the next item and come back | 17:03 |
| === czajkowski changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Studio | ||
| czajkowski | Anyone here from the Ubuntu studio ? | 17:04 |
| cub | o/ | 17:04 |
| czajkowski | cub: aloha there | 17:04 |
| cub | though I had hoped zequence would make it. | 17:04 |
| mhall119 | hi cub | 17:04 |
| cub | hi all | 17:04 |
| czajkowski | cub: so how are things? | 17:04 |
| cprofitt | hello cub | 17:04 |
| czajkowski | cub: are you able to fill us in on how things are going ? | 17:05 |
| dholbach | is Xubuntu ready for Feature Freeze? :) | 17:05 |
| cub | Well, the team is quite small at the moment. I believe only zequence and Ovenwerks are doing the development, madeinkobaia (art lead) is working on the new look for Trusty | 17:05 |
| cub | Myself have been focusing on getting the accessibility working for the iso installation | 17:05 |
| dholbach | oh... sorry - we're talking about Ubuntu Studio right now? | 17:06 |
| cub | I was writing about Ubuntu Studio, yes. | 17:07 |
| dholbach | sorry about that... I got a bit confused :) | 17:07 |
| cub | There was discussions and plans to work more the Studio workflows but time and resources have been scarce so | 17:07 |
| dholbach | in that case... did the Ubuntu Studio team get everything in they needed before the Feature Freeze? | 17:08 |
| cub | As far as I know, yes. | 17:08 |
| cub | I'm not entirely up to date though. | 17:08 |
| cub | So perhaps zequence had something with the -controls left, I'm not sure. | 17:09 |
| cub | There have been some issues with the low latency kernel and booting the iso's, I know zequence is involved in that | 17:11 |
| dholbach | Did you get feedback from testers of trusty already? Are they happy so far? | 17:11 |
| cub | all testing that has been done have been within the team | 17:12 |
| cub | we have got some good feedback from the community on applications to include | 17:12 |
| cub | but no feedback on direct testing so far. | 17:13 |
| dholbach | ok | 17:13 |
| cub | Then again, Ubuntu Studio is not part of the Alpha releases so it's Daily releases until Beta | 17:13 |
| czajkowski | cub: nods good to know | 17:13 |
| dholbach | ah ok, makes sense | 17:13 |
| dholbach | do you feel the team got everything worked out you planned for this cycle? or is on track? | 17:13 |
| cub | I believe so, the plans were narrowed down. | 17:14 |
| cub | As FF is today, myself will focus on looking into the release management as smartboyhw left earlier to focus on his studies. | 17:15 |
| cub | I know the Xubuntu team has good progress on the automatic tests..? | 17:15 |
| cub | I think Ubuntu Studio could make use of that too, especially since we usually have a small number of tests outside of the team | 17:16 |
| dholbach | yeah, I think I saw a merge proposal by elfy for some tests somewhere, but I might be misremembering | 17:16 |
| cub | Exactly, elfy and zequence had some discussions | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | cub: is there anything the CC can help the team with ? | 17:18 |
| cub | As for when the release draws closer, we started out earlier to make plans to make more use of Youtube for turotials | 17:18 |
| cub | At the moment I think it's on track | 17:18 |
| cub | So, as far as I know, there nothing on the agenda to bring up to the CC. | 17:21 |
| czajkowski | cub: thank you for taking the time to come and talk to us | 17:23 |
| czajkowski | any other questions folks? | 17:23 |
| dholbach | keep up the good work - I'm sure 14.04 is going to be a great release for Ubuntu Studio! | 17:23 |
| cprofitt | yes, thanks for the updates cub please continue your efforts | 17:23 |
| cub | Thank you! | 17:23 |
| === czajkowski changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| czajkowski | Anyone want to bring any questions up to the CC while we're here | 17:24 |
| czajkowski | #endmeeting | 17:25 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Feb 20 17:25:57 2014 UTC. | 17:25 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-02-20-17.02.moin.txt | 17:25 |
| czajkowski | thank you folks | 17:25 |
| zequence | I'm a bit late, it seems :) | 17:27 |
| cub | =) | 17:27 |
| zequence | On getting everything in for FF, I'm still waiting to get ubuntustudio-live sponsored | 17:28 |
| zequence | dholbach: ^ | 17:28 |
| dholbach | can you ask in #ubuntu-devel to get this sponsored? I won't have time today to look into this :/ | 17:28 |
| zequence | dholbach: np | 17:29 |
| dholbach | thanks! | 17:29 |
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| CommandNx_2_16 | hi! | 18:38 |
| CommandNx_2_16 | =-O | 19:43 |
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