[00:32] hello everyone [00:33] I need some help [00:33] :) [00:34] I've a nexus 4 device [00:34] And I would like to install ubuntu touch on [00:36] achiang: [00:36] adam_b: [00:36] ajmitch: [00:40] LuvSy: please do not ping everyone in the channel. that is not very polite. [00:40] LuvSy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install [00:41] achiang: I only pinged three people [00:41] :) [00:41] I went there :v but understood nothing [00:41] I wipped my data [00:41] :D without a backup [00:42] And I have now an empty mobile phone :v with android os [00:45] has anyone tried installing on a Samsung Galaxy Rugby? === jefinc_ is now known as jefinc === io is now known as IdleOne === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [02:17] trying to install Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 4 and after I type in ubuntu-device-flash --channel devel --bootstrap it keeps telling me ubuntu-device-flash: command not found any suggestions?? [02:18] i have followed all instructions thus far [02:23] Aww, I was just about to help him. === s^ is now known as SonikkuAmerica === vying is now known as Guest34076 [03:54] Hello, Im following the tutorial on flashing Ubuntu Touch to my Nexus 7 and am on the step that requires actually flashing the device with the ubuntu-device-flash command [03:55] the issue is that it says that command is not found even though I installed everything mentioned in the tutorial [03:55] vacantplains: Which tutorial? [03:55] where'd the update-manager app go? [03:55] The command hasn't been “ubuntu-device-flash” for some months. [03:55] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install [03:56] Hmm interesting [03:56] " ubuntu-device-flash --channel devel --bootstrap" is the full line [03:58] where can I find updated documentation? I'm new to Ubuntu in general so i'm not super confident in terminal just yet [04:02] Is the touch skin for the desktop version of ubuntu [04:04] I dont think so [04:08] Sorry but does anyone know the terminal command to flash Ubuntu Touch. I was told ubuntu-device-flash --channel devel --bootstrap is no longer accurate. [04:11] vacantplains, what version of ubuntu are you running? [04:12] 13.10 [04:13] vacantplains, you'll want to first 'sudo apt-get install phablet-tools' [04:13] and then the command is 'phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel devel --bootstrap' [04:14] ubuntu-device-flash is actually the *newer* one, but AFAIK it's only available on 14.04 [04:14] awesome thank you! Ill try that now [04:14] but phablet-flash will surely work, i use it all the time :) [04:15] it is indeed running [04:15] thank you for the help [04:15] no problem :) [04:54] Hey, where does the phone store the .csv file with my contacts? [04:54] and how can I pull it off the phone? === jono is now known as Guest99797 [05:44] http://VisitsToMoney.com/index.php?refId=386970 [05:49] quit [06:38] Hello ? [06:39] Is it possible to install ubuntu phone on a IOS device ? === D is now known as Guest98501 [07:00] good morning === tvoss|food is now known as tvoss [08:15] The Nexus 5 isnt supported?:o === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:55] rsalveti: ping === JamesTait is now known as Guest57947 === Guest57947 is now known as JamesTait [09:23] Good morning all; happy Love Your Pet Day! :-D [09:29] hi everyone [09:30] does anyone knows where i can get image for alcatel one === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:51] hi is someone here who speak Polish? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:11] hi all question [13:11] when i run ./rootstock-touch-install path/to/trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz /path/to/system.img === gatox is now known as gatox_away [13:12] it tells me to put the device in recovery mode yet i can't because i already did a fastboot flash boot boot.img and a fasboot flash recovery recovery.img [13:12] any ideas ? [13:12] im looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install_UT_on_android4.4.2 [13:13] jcbjoe, why cant you boot into recovery ? [13:14] jcbjoe: why can'#'t you put it in re... [13:14] (note recovery != bootloader mode) [13:14] reboot to fastboot then choose recovery from menu [13:14] it stuck at google logo [13:14] when you chose recovery from the bootloader menu ? [13:14] yes it boots to a google logo with a lock at the bottom [13:14] an open one i guess [13:15] try: adb reboot recovery [13:15] yes [13:15] smells like to triggered a normal boot (that indeed fails if you have no tarball installed) [13:15] s/to/you/ [13:16] do i start over ? [13:16] no, do what i wrote [13:16] adb reboot recovery [13:17] adb devices dosen't show my device [13:17] ah, then hold power and vol-down until you get back into the bootloader mode [13:17] ok [13:18] select "recovery mode" in the big arrow via the volume keys and press power to boot into recovery === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [13:18] ok [13:18] now its stuck at google logo [13:21] the recovery.img im using do you thin its jacked ? [13:21] http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/aosp/name_of_device/ < --- this website fails to work [13:21] i downloaded the files somehwer elese [13:21] err, you need to put your device name there [13:21] (instead of "name_of_device") [13:22] oh [13:22] what do you try to install on ? [13:22] so nexus7 or flo since its a n7 2013 ? [13:22] flo then [13:22] http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/aosp/flo/ [13:23] what did you flash then, if you didnt have the files ? [13:24] i googled people.anicicalcom aosp something and it took me to http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/aosp/ [13:24] it has a lit of files [13:25] flo / grouper / mako etc .. [13:25] i think i downloaded grouper [13:25] all the files where like 7.2mb [13:26] alright le tme try theses [13:28] oo [13:29] recovery has a ubuntu symbol in the back [13:29] great [13:29] :D [13:29] now run the rootstock script [13:29] wrong files so sad [13:30] im so exicted [13:30] :) [13:31] http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/aosp/ [13:31] oops sorry [13:31] copying and pasting from a vm machine [13:32] transfering rootfs tarball ... [13:32] that normal ? === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:37] I am trying to install ubuntu touch on my nexus 4 [13:37] And I got an error [13:37] ogra_ or popey transfering rootfs tarball ... been there for like 5 mins [13:37] is that normal ? [13:37] usage: phablet-flash [-h] ... phablet-flash: error: too few arguments [13:37] jcbjoe, yes [13:37] ok [13:37] luvsy, what was the exact line you typed ? [13:38] phablet-flash -b [13:38] heh [13:38] ogra_: [13:38] luvsy, phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel trusty -b [13:38] try that one [13:38] ok [13:39] ogra_: it is working [13:39] yup :) [13:39] I am not into these things alot [13:39] so if you are not busy you can help me to finish it [13:39] Only if you are not busy [13:39] should luvsy use ubuntu-device-flash ? [13:39] it should finish alone [13:39] ok [13:39] timppa, theoretically yes [13:40] luvsy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install [13:40] theoretically? [13:40] :) [13:40] :) [13:40] timppa: I tried to do these lines on wiki ubuntu [13:40] But I get stuck in some points [13:41] sergiusens, make phbalet-tools a metapackage that pulls in ubuntu-device-flash and make phablet-flash a link to it [13:41] s/it/the binary/ [13:41] luvsy: that's ok, we'll try to help you [13:42] timppa: :D Thanks [13:42] I always wanted to try ubutu touch on my phone [13:42] I bought necus 4 special to install this os :) [13:42] luvsy: It's great and get's better and better every day! [13:42] Thanks fantastic [13:43] * sergiusens nexus 4 and ubuntu are the only thing I have [13:43] luvsy: I've been running it as my main phone os for a while now [13:43] I wish I was a programmer to help you guys [13:43] :D timppa it will be my only phone os for a long while up to now [13:43] we sometimes put bugs in for you to find :) [13:44] use it and report them ;) [13:44] :v once i found a bug in ubuntu [13:44] Sure [13:44] :) [13:44] that helps a lot already [13:44] :D I am helpful xD [13:45] ogra_ how longs does transfering rootfs tarball ... do this ? [13:45] luvsy: Did you read that there will be two new ubuntu phones this year? [13:46] jcbjoe, 10min or so usually [13:46] aw [13:46] timppa: really? nope [13:46] luvsy: yes! That wicked! [13:46] Can i bought one ? [13:46] buy [13:46] :D [13:47] phones with ubuntu by default? will they have desktop convergance ? [13:47] luvsy, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/bq-meizu-ubuntu-smartphones-confirmed-for-2014-release [13:47] doomlord_, nope [13:47] convergence is still far out ... just great phones for now [13:48] ok convergance is where it gets interesting for me :) [13:48] i would take something with even a primitive desktop [13:48] first unity8 needs to enter the desktop [13:48] I'm also waiting for it too [13:48] ogra_ timppa no problem, I will give my necus 4 to my young brother and will buy one :D [13:48] then we can start wroking on convergence === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:53] would it be possible to get an old 2d desktop (gnome classic, XFCE, whatever) on an ubuntu phone [13:54] i'd use that :) [13:54] nope [13:54] well, the system is open, you can indeed hack the hell out of it [13:55] ogra_: Ubuntu Touch phone is in sight huh? :) [13:55] yep :) [13:56] I don't know about bq but meizu is a good company [13:56] BQ is fine too [13:56] not as powerful HW but it will alos be cheaper [13:57] umm [13:57] both company will manufacture the same hardware right? [13:57] no [13:57] same features etc [13:57] two pdifferent phones [13:57] umm [13:58] i would say bq is rather upper middle class, while meizu is high end [13:59] ogra_: INFO:phablet-flash:Decompressing partitions/recovery.img from /home/ahmad/التنزيلات/phablet-flash/imageupdates/pool/device-9d396bed22b036d92241420d70b4656ea3ef895a3b43274f936d764081b0d1e2.tar.xz INFO:phablet-flash:Restarting device... wait error: device not found ERROR:phablet-flash:Command 'adb reboot bootloader' returned non-zero exit status 1 Removing directory /tmp/tmpZIYDL6 Removing directory /tmp/tmpgI7XHV [13:59] it gave me this in the end [13:59] I couldn't find any answer one of my questions. How will end users get updates if let say samsung makes an ubuntu touch phone? [14:00] ogra_ thanks im on ubuntuy touch looks so nice [14:01] OttOmanTR: that depends on what samsung and the carriers who deliver it want to some degree [14:02] timppa: it gave me some errors [14:02] popey: I'm a long term Samsung user. The biggest problem with Samsung(and others too) is their update policies. I know you aware of this issue as well [14:03] luvsy: just a moment [14:03] ok [14:03] xnox, can you check lp:~xnox/phablet-tools/py2-3 again? [14:07] sergiusens: ok about first comment. [14:07] sergiusens: confused about the seccond one. [14:07] sergiusens: we agreed that "x-test/autopilot" will have the value of the test modules and is python3 capable one. [14:08] sergiusens: no key, we assume stock location (tests/autopilot) and python2. === gatox_away is now known as gatox [14:08] sergiusens: or are you planning to keep enforcing "tests/autopilot" in python3 capable modules and thus "x-test/autopilot" value is ..... "True" ? [14:09] sergiusens: or are there two keys "x-test/autopilot" and "x-source/autopilot-dir" ? [14:11] jcbjoe, yay, great === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:30] xnox, oh, the second comment is; the value is the python module, not the path to the python module [14:31] python package... [14:33] sergiusens: oh, as in "app_foobar_tests", not "tests/autopilot/app_foobar_tests" as i though ? [14:33] s/though/thought/ [14:33] gotcha. [14:34] xnox, yeah, I though of it more for the target and not the source; if that makes it clearer [14:34] xnox, the last part of it is just a comment, not something we agreed on or anything === ken_ is now known as kenvandine === CEnnis91 is now known as Guest53310 === MacSlow_ is now known as MacSlow [14:48] ogra_: one last thing dude [14:48] :D [14:48] sure [14:48] it says, ROM may flash stock recovery on boot [14:49] fix? [14:49] what should I do === mandel` is now known as mandel [14:50] hmm [14:50] * ogra_ hasnt used phablet-flash in a while [14:50] but i think you can say yes there === snwh__ is now known as snwh [14:50] the optoins are no no no no no and yes disable recovery flash [14:51] :D [14:51] I thought that to [14:51] too [14:51] thanks [14:51] (we default to ubuntu-device-flash nowadays ... as sergiusens mentioned earlier ....) [14:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Step_4_-_Downloading_.26_Deploying_Image_to_Device [14:52] it restart the device when I choose yes [14:53] I see a black screen now [14:53] wow [14:53] I see ubuntu [14:53] ogra_: wow === Will is now known as Guest50901 [14:53] Ubuntu Touch's dual boot feature is awesome. Too bad it's not available for all devices :( [14:55] ogra_: I am going now :3 thank [14:55] luvsy, enjoy :) [14:55] ogra_: :3 [14:56] kgunn, you filed a bug on my behalf regarding letting an app continue working in background while the screen was off (related, but not the same as bug 1233564). Do you still have that bug number? I closed that tab and didn't find it on some quick searches [14:56] bug 1233564 in mir (Ubuntu) "Greeter is seen animating when pressing the side button to wake up" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1233564 [14:57] mterry: yep....2 secs === jhodapp|afk is now known as jhodapp [15:00] mterry: hmmm....now i'm having trouble finding....wonder if someone dup'd (it the one bad thing on lp) [15:02] mterry: found it....https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1279422 [15:02] Launchpad bug 1279422 in Mir "[enhancement] permit clients to perform prep logic while screen is blanked" [High,Triaged] [15:02] weird...i didn't find it under my own user view [15:02] bad eyes i guess [15:03] kgunn, thanks! I was searching in ubuntu bugs. :) Added task [15:04] mterry: do the mir guys really understand what you need ?....they were kind of "head scratching" when i logged it saying "huh" [15:05] might want to share more.... [15:05] sergiusens: is there a click i can test the python3 codepath with? [15:05] sergiusens: and/or write some tests for this stuff. [15:06] kgunn, I think I need a better understanding of how Mir "freezes" apps when it can't accept buffers in order to put it in the right technical terms for the Mir guys. Do you know a particular person that could explain that to me? [15:07] mterry: honestly mir shouldn't "freeze" anything in particular...simply if a buffer is available to render into, you can make draw calls... [15:07] only time you might get serialized is in the case where you overdrive the display [15:07] xnox, nothing is really ap/py3 yet; would need to ask balloons [15:07] e.g. you might wait for 16ms max (theoretical) [15:08] xnox, wrt to tests; I was told you need to make it a module; unless you mean more of an integration tests [15:08] but otherwise, i'm not aware of any reason or mechnanism that "freezes" the client [15:08] sergiusens: true, cause i get some other issues might come up during py3 tests enabling. and we'll need to handhold some things. [15:08] ....and i think that's why the team said "huh" [15:09] xnox, fwiw; balloons told me that the qa sprinters were going to make the move [15:09] kgunn, I had it described that apps are put to sleep when the screen is off by virtue of Mir not accepting their draw buffers (and this somehow also stopped their logic -- I assumed by Qt's mainloop blocking) [15:09] sergiusens: but they seem to be confused, hence the conference call with them at 5pm GMT today. [15:09] kgunn, how are apps put to sleep normally, when unfocused? I assume it's the same mechanism [15:09] ogra_: Dude are you still [15:09] sergiusens: did you get an invite? [15:09] mterry: mmm...might be up the stack then...maybe unity-mir blocking ? [15:09] xnox, nope [15:11] greyback, heyo! Do you know anything about how apps are put to "sleep" when unfocused? Is that via unity-mir? [15:11] greyback, er, probably not unity-mir... But do you know how Mir does that? [15:11] mterry: might give greyback some breathing room :) ...mwc getting "fun" [15:11] kgunn, OK :) [15:12] kgunn, this question doesn't need to be solved today [15:12] mterry: sure....and i bet racarr might be able to chat on this....when he's awake [15:12] guys how to fix the wifi problem [15:12] and there is no sound too [15:12] on ubuntu touch device [15:12] sergiusens: you should have mail. [15:13] mterry: a message is sent by unity-mir via mir, there's a lifecycle message type in Mir itself. Client's listen for it and can save their state if they want. After 3 seconds, unity-mir sends a SIGSTOP to pause the app. on reusme it sends SIGCONT [15:14] greyback, thanks! I will bug racarr for details :) [15:14] np [15:19] xnox, sounds good [15:23] cwayne: you probably have seen it already, but just in case: webbrowser changes are alraedy released [15:23] boiko, yep, is aw that.. thanks a lot :) [15:23] cwayne: np === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [15:44] is ubuntu-touch very beta still [15:44] i got it on my n7 and its smooeth but finiky [15:46] jcbjoe, the flo image is only about two weeks old :) [15:50] ogra_ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/pending/trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz ? [15:50] is that the image ? [15:50] no [15:50] there is no actual "image" yet [15:50] oh system.img is the image ? [15:50] oh [15:50] so what am i running ? [15:50] rootstock resempbles the process of image creation on the device actually [15:50] ok i got it [15:51] official images will show up soon on system-image.ubuntu.com [15:52] cool === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:53] the rootstock image is created in a way that you should be able to do an OTA upgrade via adb with it [15:53] do you work for canicol ? [15:53] yep [15:54] oh nice [15:54] well, not for canicol ... [15:54] ogra_ was helping manage the ubuntuonair yesterday [15:54] well, i just tried to tame the storm of questions :) [15:55] if im correct earlier somebody said some ubuntu phones will be coming out [15:56] verizon or only gsm carriers ? [15:57] verizon would be awesome, but i doubt meizu or bq is likely to make a verizon compatible device... [15:58] jcbjoe, only gsm for now, no cdma support [15:59] hopefully verizon will move on from that [15:59] jcbjoe, i think the meizu will be GSM/HSPA hardware (and no carrier) and Bq is a spanish company ... so unlikely to ship CDMA or some such [15:59] meizu's current flagship is GSM/GPRS/EDGE/WCDMA/HSPA+ [16:09] ubuntu-touch support flash ? [16:09] can't play this cnn video [16:24] AlanBell: http://www.jonobacon.org/2014/02/20/todays-ubuntu-news/#comment-1252665950 [16:28] jcbjoe, no flash [16:36] Anyone can help me in Samsung P6200 model [16:38] Anyone can help me in Samsung P6200 model [16:43] balloons, what's the status of py3 migration for tests? [16:45] sergiusens: we're meeting with barry again in 10 mins, however it requires a patch to AP [16:45] so eta atm is pending that patch, but sounds like they have everything ready [16:45] balloons, yeah, not autopilot itself, the tests :-) [16:46] balloons, one of the MRs is the one I asked you to check from xnox ;-) === Tassadar_ is now known as Tassadar === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:58] barry: you getting on the train? [16:58] choo choo [16:59] Laney: chugga chugga [17:00] I saw you managed to get a build [17:00] Laney: on a non-virt ppa, yes [17:00] ya === Guest53310 is now known as CEnnis91 [17:07] sergiusens: re:py3, see https://code.launchpad.net/~barry/autopilot/reexec/+merge/203765 [17:07] and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-python3-roadmap [17:15] sergiusens: i think the plan is coming together. W.r.t to package to test, we'll just make a dummy python2 and python3 click and deb for testing. [17:16] sergiusens: such that i can verify phablet-test-run end-to-end. [17:16] sergiusens: and then we can upload p-t-r. [17:16] sergiusens: and that will then unblock everything else. [17:17] xnox, sergiusens sounds great. i am going to leave things to you guys until the infrastructure changes land, then i'll return to actual porting of the various app tests (first) [17:17] barry: ack. [17:19] ogra_: back in the day, on a "ubuntu-desktop-nexus7" did we have plymouth up and running? [17:19] xnox, nope [17:19] tegra issue [17:19] we had plymouth running on the panda desktop installs [17:19] ogra_: i thought i remembered boot splash on it =/ [17:20] on shutdown perhaps [17:20] ogra_: do we still have those images around anywhere? [17:20] the console handling on tegra isnt sane [17:20] might be on cdimage.../releases/ports or so [17:20] they are there [17:21] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/raring/release/ === kevank is now known as info [17:21] Tassadar: thanks. [17:22] now to remember how to install it =) i guess flash boot and flash userdata.... [17:22] xnox, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/raring/release/ [17:22] yeah, the wiki is still up too I think [17:22] ah, Tassadar was faster [17:24] guys, I installed ubuntu touch on nexus 4 [17:24] But it doesnt connect to wifi [17:24] also it has no sound [17:24] luvsy, did you have android 4.4 installed before ? [17:24] yeah [17:24] :O [17:24] one sec [17:24] ok [17:25] luvsy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation#Getting_phone_calls_to_work_in_Ubuntu_and_Android_4.4 [17:25] I will check it out [17:25] (that wont happen anymore next week when we have switched the official images to a 4.4 base) === info is now known as kevank [17:27] Download an Android 4.3 firmware for your device onto your PC. Follow the links on this table > [17:27] ogra_: which firmware ? I saw nothing [17:27] from google [17:29] Okay I think I got it [17:29] It is downloading [17:30] xnox, do you need me in any meeting? I don't think I recv any email [17:30] sergiusens: it's all done and dusted... i did sent a canonical calendar invite to you via google calendar.... [17:31] ogra_: wouldnit's gonna be incompatible the other way around after that [17:31] *wouldn't keep my hopes up, it's gonna be...damn return key is too close to backspace) [17:32] Tassadar, i think it is backwards but not forwards compatible [17:33] I thought it was the both ways, hm === tyhicks` is now known as tyhicks === robru_ is now known as robru [17:35] ogra_: should i download android 4.3 fir,ware or 4.4 [17:35] -_- I feel silly [17:35] luvsy, 4.3 [17:35] ok [17:35] I downloaded 4.4 [17:35] the current hardware layer ubuntu touch uses uses drivers from 4.3 [17:36] ah [17:36] ok [17:36] thats why the 4.4 firmware (that is already installed from your android install) does not work [17:36] I see [17:49] ogra_, rsalveti, hum we fell into tablet greeter on portrait flo [17:50] due to the GU change ? [17:50] ogra_, yes [17:50] sight [17:50] -t [17:51] ogra_, well, it's meant to be available https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/file/d/0B-a_7E3tDxOgMzI2TFlYOGNrOVU/edit [17:51] ogra_, but it's not looking like that atm ;) [17:52] is there a fix in the pipe ? [17:52] before monday ? [17:52] ogra_, no [17:52] so do we need to roll the GU back to 21 ? [17:52]