[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> Bitwise: also ask in #ubuntu-server
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> Toadstool2: dd, clonezilla, any imaging tool really
[00:00] <Toadstool2> thanks hitsujiTMO
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> Daghdha: thats "dash"
[00:01] <schone> hello
[00:01] <Daghdha> is this save: rm ~/.cache/software-center -R
[00:02] <schone> I'm trying to run apt-get update on ubuntu precise on an AWS EC2 and I'm getting NO_PUBKEY error
[00:02] <schone> i've tried running sudo apt-key adv....
[00:02] <Bitwise> hitsujiTMO, Right. I forgot about that.
[00:02] <schone> and it claims that signature ID doesn't exist on ubuntu servers
[00:02] <schone> does anyone know the reason for this?
[00:02] <Beldar> schone, 3rd part repo?
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> impossible: local NAS is what i use. depends on what you have available. usually people avoid cloud services for full backups due to bandwidth usage
[00:02] <schone> I'm using mirrors.ubuntu.com
[00:03] <schone> and its complaining about us-east-1.
[00:03] <GeorgeW> Hi
[00:03] <GeorgeW>  How do I remove the "Linux vps21221 2.6.32-042stab084.14 #1 SMP Mon Dec 16 18:16:56 MSK 2013 x86_64" when I login?
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> Daghdha: deleting a cache is usually safe
[00:03] <Ben64> schone: pastebin "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[00:03] <Daghdha> and i did: unity --reset &
[00:03] <Beldar> schone, The link to the no key is it a 3rd party addition to the sources
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> Daghdha: what version of ubuntu
[00:03] <Daghdha> it has worked!
[00:03] <Daghdha> Woohooo
[00:03] <Ben64> GeorgeW: that does not look like an ubuntu kernel
[00:04] <Daghdha> 12.20?
[00:04] <Daghdha> 12.10? Not sure
[00:04] <schone> http://pastebin.com/ZaAkuiVB
[00:04] <schone> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/ZaAkuiVB
[00:04] <schone> thats what i get from running update
[00:04] <pero> would anyone know what this is cluttering up my auth and sys logs? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6962817/
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> schone: ""and its complaining about us-east-1."" thats an amazon mirror
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> schone: they may supply their keys seperately
[00:04] <schone> oh?....
[00:05] <schone> i don't think they do tho
[00:05] <schone> i think this is somn ubuntu sets up on amazon
[00:06] <Daghdha> hehe it's in 3D supermode or something instead of 2D. Wich i need coz i am on VNC
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> pero: thats a cron job. pretty normal behaviour
[00:06] <schone> Ben64: any idea?
[00:07] <Ben64> schone: you didn't paste the whole command, or the 2nd command i asked
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> GeorgeW: I assume you're using an openvz or xen pv or similar vps. they use a shared kernel that you cannot change
[00:07] <Daghdha> Can this copmmand also be extended so it starts unity in 2d mode? unity --reset &
[00:07] <n-iCe> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6962822/
[00:07] <pero> hitsujiTMO: thx
[00:09] <schone> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/n36BtXTw
[00:09] <panxd> Chellos ALL.
[00:10] <panxd> Hello Debian.org !
[00:11] <schone> ?
[00:12] <Daghdha> ok i managed to log in using telnet. Machine is unusable in GUI now. How can i reset unity but make it go into 2d?
[00:13] <schone> on a side note, how do you tell apt-get to look in the 'all' section of a repo and not just the architecture specific to your machine
[00:13] <schone> ?
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> Daghdha: what version of ubuntu?
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> schone: dpkg -add-architecture <arch>
[00:14] <Daghdha> hitsujiTMO" Ubuntu 12.10 desktop
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> schone: not a good idea if you machine doesn't support that arch
[00:14] <schone> i want the 'binary-all' section
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> Daghdha: that doesn't have unity-2d
[00:15] <Daghdha> but the desktop i have now clearly has alls ort of effects enable i normally don't have.
[00:16] <schone> for some reason i don't have --add-architecture
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> schone: sorry, i forgot a dash on dpkg --add-architecture            .... if that doesn't work then amazon are supplying a modified version of dpkg
[00:18] <schone> got ya
[00:18] <schone> ok
[00:18] <cokea> Hey guys!
[00:18] <schone> so its the latter
[00:18] <schone> is it really this difficult to add an 'all' architecture
[00:18] <cokea> Hey guys!
[00:18] <hasan2> herro
[00:18] <schone> without that --add-arch command
[00:18] <schone> ?
[00:18] <cokea> Got a question
[00:19] <cokea> Anyone can help?
[00:19] <hasan1> .msg nickserv identify hunter2
[00:19] <hasan1> fuckkkk
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> schone: "all" is there already... but it doesn;t make sense to add every architecture
[00:19] <paavo> lmao
[00:19] <cokea> hitsujiTMO: can you help?
[00:19] <paavo> HAHAHA
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> !language | hasan1
[00:19] <paavo> hasan1: i just drained ur coinbase account
[00:19] <Xuisce> hasan1:  stop it
[00:19] <schone> hitsujiTMO: for some reason my apt isn't finding a package in the all section of my repo
[00:19] <cokea> Guys.
[00:19] <iter> wasn't it hunter7
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> cokea: no idea, you'd have to ask the question
[00:19] <schone> and I'm wondering if its because that apt-get update had problems with that missing key
[00:19] <hasan1> xuisce what did i do?
[00:19] <schone> even tho its not the same repo
[00:19] <cokea> right
[00:19] <Xuisce> has hasan1 been boterhring anyone else?
[00:19] <schone> the one complained about and the one where my package is at
[00:19] <Xuisce> boterthing*
[00:20] <cokea> Would anyone be interested in scented oil?
[00:20] <Xuisce> hm
[00:20] <hasan1> ?
[00:20] <cokea> http://vice.com/en_uk/read/the-smell-of-a-boys-anus-the-scented-oil
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> schone: what package?
[00:20] <hasan1> i just got here
[00:20] <Xuisce> cokea:  not here
[00:20] <cokea> I am selling boys anus scented oil
[00:20] <cokea> http://vice.com/en_uk/read/the-smell-of-a-boys-anus-the-scented-oil
[00:20] <Xuisce> never mind hasan1
[00:20] <cokea> anyone interested?
[00:20] <Xuisce> thanks Bashing-om
[00:20] <Xuisce> bazhang:
[00:20] <schone> hitsujiTMO: its my own private repo with my own private package that I've built
[00:20] <Xuisce> hasan1:  sorry I meant him
[00:20] <Xuisce> :)
[00:20] <panxd> MacWorks II (an Emulator) &+& Mac OS 9.x on LINUX ******* ^Roll Window Up  ~K  she sAySzzz
[00:20] <hasan1> oh cool
[00:21] <panxd> BING.com  iTTT
[00:21] <panxd> Audii
[00:21] <Bashing-om> Xuisce: Huh ? what did I miss ?
[00:21] <hasan1> cokea was talking about some bitcoin conspiracies earlier
[00:21] <schone> Ben64: any idea about that key?
[00:21] <hasan1> on another chan
[00:21] <Xuisce> Bashing-om:  oh some troll
[00:21] <Xuisce> yeah
[00:21] <Xuisce> hasan1:  right
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> schone: what exact architecture did you set when creating the package?
[00:22] <schone> all
[00:22] <schone> when i change my control file to and64 it shows up
[00:22] <schone> when i leave it as 'all' apt-cache won't find it
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> schmidtm: try Achitecture: any
[00:23] <schone> ok
[00:23] <schone> will do
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> schmidtm: altho "all" should work... could be something with the way amazon have their servers setup. have you tried it on a local machine or vm?
[00:26] <webfox_> Hey guys, I've downloaded a .iso image from Ubuntu from a x86-64 format and during the boot it asks me for a i686 format. What is that?
[00:26] <Daghdha> hitsujiTMO: clearing cache and resetting my unity and THEN rebooting seems to have fixed the issue completely
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> Daghdha: hmm, odd that a reboot was needed
[00:27] <Daghdha> I think the reset put the unity in a mode that was way to graphic intensive for my NAS
[00:28] <Daghdha> also i now see unity-2d-panel in my list of processes
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> Daghdha: ahh lol. maybe you should consider running a lightweight DE like lxde  .... or no DE at all for that
[00:28] <Daghdha> are you sure it has no 2d?
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> Daghdha: 12.04 has 2d, 12.10 doesn't
[00:28] <Daghdha> oh
[00:28] <Daghdha> i may have 14
[00:28] <Daghdha> 04
[00:29] <Daghdha> wich is LTS?
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> yes. 12.04 is the lts
[00:29] <Daghdha> i have that because i am a good boy :)
[00:29] <Daghdha> Anyway crisis afferted, Thank you and good night :P
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> lol. ok. then you have unity-2d ... you need to make sure the xsession is using ubuntu-2d for unity-2d to be working
[00:30] <eakoc> I present my apologizes
[00:30] <eakoc> publically
[00:30] <eakoc> to bazhang
[00:32] <webfox_> what version do I have to download in case of i686 CPU ?
[00:33] <webfox_> which version, I mean.
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> webfox_: what cpu do you have?
[00:33] <bazhang> 32bit
[00:34] <webfox_> hitsujiTMO: how do I check it?
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> webfox_: how new/old is the pc?
[00:35] <webfox_> hitsujiTMO: quite old I would say.
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> webfox_: grab the 32bit/i386 iso
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> webfox_: x86_64 is the 64bit image.
[00:39] <elb0w> Is there anyway to disable to top bar on my second monitor?
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> elb0w: afaik no. you can only disable the launcher
[00:40] <elb0w> hitsujiTMO: ok
[00:40] <elb0w> thanks
[00:40] <upd> hi, i there anything to delete, becouse i run out of space, like is there anything left after i update system ?
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> upd: sudo apt-get clean
[00:41] <upd> great tnx :)
[00:41] <hitsujiTMO> upd: also can you pastebin the output of: df -h && df -i
[00:41] <webfox_> hitsujiTMO: I've considered 64bit version because the only restriction was the amount of memory.
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> webfox_: if your running a 32bit cpu then you can only install a 32bit os
[00:42] <Bitwise> http://pastebin.com/jmWT98T0 Any takers?
[00:42] <webfox_> hitsujiTMO: yes, in fact that is it.
[00:42] <upd> hitsujiTMO, why yea its full 100% i had to install a lot of packages and netbook has only 8gb ssd
[00:43] <upd> i got 8% with clean
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> upd: ahh, 8gb aint much.
[00:43] <raid1ubuntu> hello! I try to install ubuntu server 12.0.4 LTS x64 on a raid1 drive. using the manual partitioning i use / for the whole array and ext4. When i finish configuration and start the partitioning the screen hangs
[00:44] <upd> i know :)
[00:44] <raid1ubuntu> on the second shell i did a cat /proc/mdstat  and it showed up for resync
[00:44] <hitsujiTMO> raid1ubuntu: where exactly does it hang?
[00:44] <hitsujiTMO> upd: how much ram do you have?
[00:45] <raid1ubuntu> when i say apply configuration and write to disk
[00:45] <raid1ubuntu> after that it ask me to allow booting with just one drive, and after that it asks for a swap (which i dont want with 32GB ram) and finally, its ask to start, and then it hangs
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> raid1ubuntu: sounds like its silently failind to create the partition.
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> raid1ubuntu: is there anything in dmesg for harddrive errors?
[00:47] <raid1ubuntu> no it just says resync
[00:47] <raid1ubuntu> the raid is: Intel embedded raid server technology ii
[00:48] <upd> hitsujiTMO, 1536mb
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> raid1ubuntu: ok, so not a soft raid.
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> upd: what desktop environment are you using?
[00:49] <upd> i have lubuntu
[00:49] <upd> so lxde
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO> upd: you "might" be able to get away without using a swap. depending on your usage
[00:49] <raid1ubuntu> hitsujiTMO: i am not absolutely sure, because intel says its host-based
[00:49] <raid1ubuntu> but not a software only raid, yes
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO> raid1ubuntu: how exactly did you create the raid in the partitioner?
[00:49] <upd> that would be good idea, im using it for compiling stuff
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> upd: if you're doing heavy compilation then you may need the swap then :(
[00:50] <upd> yea :)
[00:50] <upd> i will check for some normal hdd
[00:50] <raid1ubuntu> hitsujiTMO: i configured the array in the controller (at boot) and the setup of ubuntu ask me to enable ATA Raid devices
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> raid1ubuntu: ok. sounds about right then.
[00:51] <raid1ubuntu> When i select manual partitioning, it shows already up, i just have to "select" the raid array as target
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> raid1ubuntu: just making sure you're not creating a soft raid within the hard raid
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> raid1ubuntu: i'm not really much help with hard raid i'm afraid. also try asking in #ubuntu-server
[00:53] <raid1ubuntu> hitsujiTMO: i am at the step now where it starts hanging in the curses-based ubuntu setup when i hit enter
[00:53] <raid1ubuntu> hitsujiTMO: good hint, thx!
[00:55] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: are you talking about ICHxR based RAID?
[00:55] <daftykins> so your disks are just on the standard motherboard SATA ports?
[00:55] <daftykins> shift+F10 or similar entered the configuration utility?
[00:56] <CapitalSigma> hi all
[00:56] <daftykins> welcome, ask away if you have a question
[00:56] <CapitalSigma> there was a power outage earlier today, and since then i've had some system settings (bluetooth and display) behave strangely. is it likely that my install was corrupted somehow?
[00:58] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: i don't know. Where can i check this?
[00:58] <daftykins> CapitalSigma: booting a live session and fsck'ing might not hurt
[00:58] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: did you not assemble the system?
[00:59] <raid1ubuntu> i bought this server from ebay for a students project.
[00:59] <raid1ubuntu> i just added hdds and configured the raid in the bios
[01:00] <daftykins> so you can answer a couple of my questions at least?
[01:00] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: i confiured the raid at start with CTRL+E
[01:01] <daftykins> are you in a live session on that system right now?
[01:01] <dgarstang3> Any particular reason I would have to disable secure boot to get 3 displays to work on boot?
[01:01] <CapitalSigma> daftykins: i'm logged in to the system now, i'm on IRC on a different machine though
[01:02] <daftykins> CapitalSigma: you can't fsck it whilst it's mounted
[01:03] <raid1ubuntu> is it possible to remove 1 disk from the array, install ubuntu on it without resync, reboot and insert disk again to resync when its installed?
[01:03] <raid1ubuntu> maybe this could solve my problems
[01:03] <daftykins> ctrl+E doesn't sound quite like a familiar style of intel only RAID 0o
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> raid1ubuntu: what motherboard does the server have ( i presume its a built in raid controller and not an addon card right?)
[01:04] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: can you confirm the controller with 'lspci' output?
[01:07] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: controller in lspci: intel 631xESB/632xESB SATA RAID Controller rev09
[01:07] <raid1ubuntu> i have removed the second disk before partitioning start, the resync took just a few seconds now (because of only one disk)...
[01:08] <raid1ubuntu> the screen still hangs :(
[01:08] <daftykins> ah yes that sounds like an ICH
[01:09] <raid1ubuntu> i noticed LSI on the lower left at startup raid screen, on top it was INTEL embedded server raid technology ii , and lower right, LSI blabla
[01:11] <raid1ubuntu> well system hangs now again
[01:12] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: raid1ubuntu it would probably help to know the exact board in use
[01:12] <daftykins> oops double highlight
[01:17] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: its an S5400SF
[01:18] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: http://ark.intel.com/products/29871/Intel-Server-Board-S5400SF
[01:21] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: ok, did you attempt to load any modules to support the built-in RAID prior to running install?
[01:22] <_root_> hello
[01:22] <_root_> I need the source file for catfish-1.0.0.tar.bz2.
[01:23] <xeno> On 13.10, I'm seeing a 98% cpu usage in vi with a file having a line of some 512 bytes.
[01:23] <_root_> I can't find the file on the https://launchpad.net/
[01:23] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: no the setups detects the SATA-RAID device automatically before partitioning screen and ask if i want to activate it
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> _root_: catfish-1.0.0.tar.bz2. is the source no?
[01:25] <boccobrock> _root_: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~catfish-search/catfish-search/1.0/files
[01:25] <Beldar> _root_, https://launchpad.net/catfish-search/+download
[01:26] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: are you tied to 12.04 at all?
[01:26] <xeno> I am seeing the behavior on two different machines.  Interestingly, it only happened on the second one when I made the file a ruby file, so it appears to have to do with ruby formatting.
[01:26] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: http://picpaste.com/Photo_2014-02-20_02.25.02-1-fiyGQuRc.jpg
[01:26] <hitsujiTMO> _root_: "Catfish is a GTK+ search utility written in python" - ... it's python ... the "binary" is the source
[01:26] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: ignore german language, the basic information should be readable
[01:27] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: hmm read-only is a little suspect
[01:27] <daftykins> is that due to the degraded state?
[01:27] <genial> Hey, I've mounted a set of drives which I share from Ubuntu using Samba. I noticed today that I one of the older drives were _extremely_ slow. I went into panic-mode and tried to rsync over some data to another drive, but rsync gives me Input/output error (5). Is there no hope in salvaging the data on it?
[01:27] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: no it was readonly with both disks before too
[01:27] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: maybe thats why
[01:28] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: note: i select Nr.1 for partitioning (ext4, mountpoint /)
[01:29] <xeno> Yes, it is 100%.  When I move it from test.rb to test, the file edits fine.  When I mv test test.rb, it goes back to being a cpu black hole.
[01:29] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: have you always told it to create the partition as the full size?
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> xeno: file a bug report
[01:30] <raid1ubuntu> yes
[01:30] <Beldar> genial, You might run that again and pastebin the info, for the channel, that would answer few questions
[01:31] <Beldar> a few*
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> genial: also look at dmesg for hdd errors
[01:32] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: does that server have a working network connection? can you switch to a TTY and pastebin the full output of 'lspci' please?
[01:32] <Bashing-om> 3
[01:33] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: http://picpaste.com/Photo_2014-02-20_02.32.07-1-NkVxhqvk.jpg  thats what i have selected
[01:34] <_root_> boccobrock, thanks
[01:34] <raid1ubuntu> how to get the ip (ifconfig) not found
[01:35] <_root_> hitsujiTMO, i couldn't get it from launchpad; it was a proxy issue i guesss BTW thank you
[01:35] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: you can "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci | pastebinit"
[01:36] <genial> ouff, from the looks of it that drive is done for, dmesg: http://pastebin.com/pgK5jZ64
[01:37] <daftykins> genial: i was going to suggest looking at SMART info, yep that drive looks toast!
[01:37] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: i cant, in ubuntu server setup there is no ifconfig or apt-get
[01:37] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: ah :( can you just run lspci and tell me if there's an LSI device listed?
[01:38] <meLon> Is it possible to do something like `su - user` in a way that will not allow that user to exit from that user back to the original user?
[01:38] <meLon> Anything better than `su - user && exit` lol
[01:39] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: no there is only intel raid
[01:39] <raid1ubuntu> 631xESB/632xESB
[01:39] <daftykins> ok good good
[01:39] <lebafar> Is it a good idea to install Chrome on Ubuntu?
[01:40] <daftykins> lebafar: in terms of?
[01:40] <lebafar> daftykins, for testing proposes.
[01:40] <meLon> lebafar: I prefer Chromium Stable.  Chrome and Chromium run well on Ubuntu, if you like them.
[01:41] <lebafar> meLon, yes, that was a good idea. Thank you!
[01:41] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: damn i think i am giving up. its too late here (2:41am) and i have to get to work tomorrow..
[01:42] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: righty-o, consider trying 14.04 server - it's not final yet but it wouldn't hurt
[01:42] <lebafar> meLon, is that to difficult to install it from command line?
[01:43] <daftykins> raid1ubuntu: also it wouldn't hurt to try just making a 200MB /boot and 2GB+ / just to test, maybe non-LVM too
[01:44] <JoldWebb> Hi guys
[01:44] <Jimmy_> Hi
[01:45] <JoldWebb> Im trying to install ubuntu from a USB stick but Im currently on windows, might I beable to get any help?
[01:45] <lebafar> JoldWebb, google for Ubuntu stick from Windows
[01:46] <daftykins> JoldWebb: what step are you at? creating the flash drive?
[01:46] <meLon> If unetbootin works on Windows, it's easymode :D
[01:46] <Jpk516> Hi, if i copy all of the files from the .iso file on to a DVD, can i install from a disk?
[01:46] <daftykins> JoldWebb: pendrivelinux.com -> Universal USB Installer
[01:46] <JoldWebb> well lets narrow the question, does it have to be somesort of a bootable usb stick whatever that is
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> !google | lebafar
[01:46] <daftykins> JoldWebb: the above will make a flash drive work for you
[01:46] <lebafar> JoldWebb, it gonna ask you to download a certain application to help you. I just did that and it works as a charm.
[01:46] <JoldWebb> Alright thanks man
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[01:46] <JoldWebb> I have the iso I just have to put it on
[01:47] <Jpk516> Can i just copy the files from my ISO to a DVD and boot from it to install Linux?
[01:47] <lebafar> hitsujiTMO, ok, sorry. :P
[01:47] <meLon> Jpk516: You need to burn the ISO using a program designed to do so.  Copying the files will not work
[01:47] <Jpk516> Ok
[01:47] <JoldWebb> I have a current version of ubuntu running but during an update the kernal got corrupted do to the age of the laptop and not being able to keep up and what not
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> Jpk516: an iso is a dvd image. just use an iso burning tool
[01:47] <Jpk516> I have PowerISO
[01:48] <Jpk516> and i have a burn feature would that work?
[01:48] <meLon> Jpk516: The ISO has 'hidden' stuff, like things that make the DVD bootable.  On windows, you can use ImgBurn or other programs
[01:48] <Jpk516> OK
[01:48] <Jpk516> Would PowerISO work?
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> Jpk516: what operating system are you on?
[01:48] <Jpk516> XP
[01:48] <JoldWebb> so now it seems to me that ubuntu is dropping threads left and right regardless of importance so I figure an update should fix it
[01:48] <Jpk516> Ok
[01:48] <meLon> Jpk516: Because of the name, I would believe so.  You need to ask it to 'load an image'
[01:48] <meLon> and burn it ^
[01:48] <Jpk516> Got it
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: power iso should have an iso image burning option
[01:49] <Jpk516> It does
[01:49] <Jpk516> thanks all
[01:49] <JoldWebb> hitsujiTMO: I think I have it now, thanks
[01:49] <JoldWebb> Is it possible for threads to be dropped if the kernal gets corrupt and the CPU and ram arent up to snuff?
[01:51] <llr> I'm downloading RoboLinux to run as a VM and test
[01:52] <llr> by the way hello to all
[01:52] <daftykins> only Ubuntu is supported here
[01:52] <JoldWebb> Hi llr
[01:52] <llr> I know
[01:52] <llr> just putting it out there. sorry
[01:53] <thimoteo> personally I'm with a problem on my Ubuntu software center. when I click to open it opens and then closes. Get the idea? al help me please!!
[01:53] <hitsujiTMO> llr: this is a support channel not a chat channel. for "putting it out there" try #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:53] <hitsujiTMO> more than free to discuss it there
[01:54] <JoldWebb> Deer gods Im not looking forward to this, My pc is from the days when it took 6+hours to upgrade ubuntu
[01:55] <JoldWebb> *dear
[01:56] <gonyere> its gotten a lot better and less scary than it used to be JoldWebb - I promise :)
[01:56] <JoldWebb> Is it? LOL I hope, I havent updated this guy in a while bout a year I think
[01:57] <thimoteo> personally I'm with a problem on my Ubuntu software center. when I click to open it opens and then closes. Get the idea? al help me please!!
[01:58] <gonyere> have you installed updates lately thimoteo?
[01:59] <ash_m> can anyone help me figure out why my partitions menu is empty from a bootable USB drive?
[01:59] <ash_m> it's incredibly frustrating, and I've tried this on multiple machines.
[01:59] <gonyere> ash_m what do you mean?
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> thimoteo: can you open a terminal. and try and run the software center from the terminal. it should spew out debug info
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> ash_m: did you dd an iso to the usb?
[02:01] <ash_m> gonyere: the first time I installed xubuntu on a computer, I just proceeded through the menus like normal. Very straight-forward. But since I f*ed it up, I am trying to reinstall using a different USB stick. I always end up at the partitions screen with no partition to select....
[02:02] <thimoteo> tried that did not work out more! can not be executed
[02:02] <lebafar> How do I install a application via command line?
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> thimoteo: you ran: software-center             and no output to the terminal?
[02:02] <ash_m> gonyere: if there is a partition, I inevitably end up with an "internal error", if i try to add one, which I assume the plus and minus are for, I get an error with the "keyboard method inputs" and it inevitably closes out to a desktop session....
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> lebafar: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[02:03] <gonyere> ash_m re-burn your usb key, sounds like somethings corrupted
[02:03] <ash_m> hitsujiTMO: I don't know what dd means, but I've been using LiLi to write the iso to the usb stick; recently I've tried rufus.
[02:03] <hitsujiTMO> ash_m: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[02:03] <ash_m> gonyere: I've done that ~no kidding~ like a dozen times.
[02:03] <gonyere> ash_m tried re-downloading the iso file?
[02:03] <Xuisce> hi all
[02:04] <thimoteo> is really thought this would solve
[02:04] <ash_m> gonyere: check. (I've done that too)
[02:04] <ash_m> hitsujiTMO: I will try to pull that up for you.
[02:04] <gonyere> tried burning to a dvd or a different usb key?
[02:05] <gonyere> otherwise my guess is theres something *really* screwy w/ your hdd
[02:06] <ash_m> gonyere: I'm not using an HDD, just a usb stick,
[02:06] <gonyere> right, but you're trying to re-install *to* a hdd, correct?
[02:06] <ash_m> gonyere: also, I've tried multiple different sticks
[02:07] <ash_m> gonyere: no... there's no HDD present.
[02:07] <gonyere> ahhh, your just trying to run it off of a usb key then?
[02:08] <ash_m> gonyere: yessir
[02:08] <gonyere> how are you putting it onto the usb key? from windows?
[02:08] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, xubuntu ... running from usb... either a netbook or mining rig
[02:08] <Antitau> I have a major problem - I can't boot my machine after running the ATI graphics driver installer and updating the x.org config with aticonfig --initial
[02:08] <lebafar> meLon, is chromium-bsu the same as Chromium Stable?
[02:09] <ash_m> gonyere: yes, a program called LiLi, and most recently I tried a program called rufus with no different results.
[02:09] <lebafar> hitsujiTMO, thank you man.
[02:09] <ash_m> hitsujiTMO: ding ding ding.
[02:09] <Antitau> I have a deadline coming up, so is there anyway to just reverse the ATI driver install from recovery mode?
[02:09] <lebafar> Does anybody here uses SublimeText as a text editor by any chance?
[02:09] <JoldWebb> Okay, I have the USB stick plugged in and I checked the bootup priorities but the netbook refueses to boot from the USB
[02:09] <Antitau> lebafar: yes
[02:10] <gonyere> ash_m did you try these instructions: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[02:10] <hitsujiTMO> Antitau: installed the driver from ati website?
[02:10] <lebafar> Antitau, does it works fine?
[02:10] <hitsujiTMO> lebafar: also yes
[02:10] <Antitau> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, the .run file they provide on the webpage.
[02:10] <Antitau> lebafar: Like a dream
[02:10] <hitsujiTMO> sublime works perfectly
[02:10] <lebafar> Antitau, yeah! =)
[02:10] <ash_m> gonyere: I will try PenDrive and cross my fingers
[02:11] <arityfn> What's a pretty good lightweight media player for linux?
[02:11] <gonyere> good luck :)
[02:11] <hitsujiTMO> Antitau: 1) don't do that. 2) run: sudo blargbargbarg.run --uninstall             and then: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:12] <hitsujiTMO> Antitau: fglrx is in the repo
[02:12] <Antitau> hitsujiTMO: what about if recovery mode is telling me the filesystem is read-only
[02:12] <hitsujiTMO> Antitau: don;t do it from recoviery mode, instead:
[02:12] <hitsujiTMO> !text | Antitau
[02:13] <jarcor> Hi everyone, anyone knows how to hear the embedded sound on a pdf file from Ubu?
[02:13] <Antitau> alright, I'll try that out. Cheers
[02:14] <sk1special> so uh..how do i fix this? http://pastebin.com/CKpDFfkL
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: try vlc or mplayer2 instead
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: seems to be a very old unfixed bug with totem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/880526
[02:16] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, is there not a way to fix it tho? vlc gives me problems
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:16] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, 12.04
[02:16] <ash_m> which button was supposed to take me to command line mode... F2?
[02:17] <ash_m> this isn't really the place to ask that simple of a question really
[02:17] <xangua> ash_m: control+alt+F1-6
[02:17] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10/+bug/879066 the bug is in 12.04 too. its fixed in a later version of the gnome stack
[02:17] <xangua> F7 go back to X ash_m
[02:17] <ash_m> thanks xangua
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: you'd essentially have to upgrade to "fix" it
[02:19] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, ah..if i upgrade..will it just upgrade me as like an update or will it reinstall again. barely got it to install before because my videos trash
[02:19] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: if you're having issues with your video then n upgrade may not work. try mplayer2 instead
[02:20] <jarcor> my local time is 03:19 i will soon log out, no one knows how to hear thw sound embeded in a pdf?
[02:20] <CarlFK> jarcor: do you have a url of a pdf with sound?
[02:21] <jarcor> yes
[02:21] <JoldWebb> Does anyone here know how to boot from usb using GRUB
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> jarcor: best thing i can find is http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/7502/how-to-include-audio-file-in-pdf
[02:21] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, not Issues so much..just super old laptop so didnt want to work.(or support shiny things like ccsm/tweak stuff) ill try the other player tho
[02:21] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, t/y
[02:21] <ash_m> hitsujiTMO: okay! so where do you want me to put the output?
[02:21] <xangua> JoldWebb: you mean you want to put grub on usb¿
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO> !paste | ash_m
[02:22] <JoldWebb> no
[02:22] <JoldWebb> I mean I want to boot ubuntu from a usb and that bios isnt listing the usb
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: you could add a chainload entry in grub.cfg i gues
[02:23] <JoldWebb> I dont need to tdo this often I just need a quick fix tbh
[02:23] <ash_m> mkay, so just this link then?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6963271/
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: get to the grub prompt and type "ls" to see if it picks up the usb
[02:24] <JoldWebb> alright
[02:24] <JoldWebb> gimme a minute
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> ash_m: are you trying to install from a usb to the same usb/
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> ?
[02:25] <ash_m> hitsujiTMO: is that *not* what you're supposed to do?
[02:25] <JoldWebb> yes, I believe it is
[02:25] <JoldWebb> pretty damn sure even
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> ash_m: you cannot install to the device you're installing from. you need 2 usbs. one for the install media and one to install to
[02:26] <z1haze> i just got a new dedi, and im about to install my os.. is 12.04 the recommend version to install by majority?
[02:26] <ash_m> *hand* *face*
[02:26] <ash_m> thank you. hitsujiTMO
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb:what are the entries when you type ls?
[02:26] <ash_m> ps
[02:26] <ash_m> your name sounds Japanese
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> ash_m: hitsuji is japanese for sheep
[02:26] <ash_m> 日本語を話せますか？
[02:26] <z1haze> what o/s should i install on my server?.. kinda new to this
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> but no, im not japanese
[02:27] <ash_m> poop
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: 12.04 unless you have a very good reason to install a different version
[02:27] <z1haze> alrighty ill go wit hthat
[02:27] <z1haze> tht have a 13.10 version on here is why im askin
[02:27] <ash_m> I always captialize on the oppertunity to exercise my Japanese whenever I can.
[02:28] <ash_m> (albeit still not very good, imho)
[02:28] <crankharder> how do I figure out what bus/device/function a given SATA hard drive is on?  need it in the format like this:  bus:device.function
[02:29] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO: they have 12.04 LTS, and they have 12.04 LTS + x2go. it says ubuntu desktop.. does it matter which
[02:29] <JoldWebb> skipping all under hd0
[02:29] <JoldWebb> I have (hd1) and (hd1,msdos1)
[02:29] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: use 12.04 lts ... make sure its server not desktop
[02:29] <JoldWebb> hitsujiTMO:
[02:30] <z1haze> ok thanks am doing that now
[02:30] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: try: root (hd1,msdos1)
[02:30] <daftykins> z1haze: ah you came up with a plan then
[02:30] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: then: chainloader +1
[02:30] <z1haze> yea i just bought a new server
[02:30] <z1haze> said fk the other guy and his sht support
[02:31] <z1haze> i just have to figure out how to scp my stuff over or w/e
[02:31] <JoldWebb> hitsujiTMO: this is where I got stuck
[02:31] <JoldWebb> it says error: unknowncommand 'root'
[02:31] <z1haze> besides, we were getting ddos'd hardcore in the middle of the process making it hard to even do anything..
[02:31] <daftykins> z1haze: weird.
[02:31] <JoldWebb> my pc is a little old hitsujiTMO its about 6-8 years old
[02:32] <z1haze> yea, like 15gbps attacks
[02:32] <z1haze> using some ntp stuff: anyways can im in the process of setting up my new one now; ive never done this before.. I'm to the point where it asks "mounting point" what is that?
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: hmm, maybe try: chainloader (hd1)+1
[02:33] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: then: boot
[02:33] <JoldWebb> wonderful!!!!
[02:34] <JoldWebb> You are fricken amazing hitsujiTMO
[02:34] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | JoldWebb
[02:34] <JoldWebb> Im on my way to a freaking epic update
[02:34] <Antitau> okay, I uninstalled the .run file, removed xorg.conf, and there was still nothing, so I did sudo apt-get install --reinstall fglrx and tried aticonfig --initial again but "No supported adapters detected"
[02:34] <JoldWebb> (well, assuming this fixes the likely broken kernal
[02:34] <hitsujiTMO> Antitau: what gpu do you have?
[02:35] <Antitau> Radeon HD4870
[02:35] <JoldWebb> mind if I stick around while this all updates? incase I have other oddities?
[02:35] <z1haze> daftykins or hitsujiTMO: in the partioning setup of the server, is has a blank spot for me to type something in for mounting point, and i have to chose a size.. im not sure what to do
[02:35] <hitsujiTMO> Antitau: ahh, thats a legacy card no longer supported by ati
[02:36] <Antitau> ah...how do I get my computer back into the state it was in before then? :(
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: look at the count of the neber of users in this channel.
[02:36] <Antitau> i guess I was using the FOSS driver before, I just wanted to update so I could play rust without switching to windows
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: number*                   people like to lurk here a lot
[02:36] <JoldWebb> lol Ill take that as a yes then :P
[02:36] <kevin_> *lurking*
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: /    is your root. thats the main one.
[02:37] <z1haze> so what do i type in?
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: what way do you want to partition it?
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> Antitau: start with: sudo apt-get purge fglrx && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[02:38] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO: im not sure, this is my first time ever doing this..
[02:39] <daftykins> !docs | z1haze
[02:39] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: how much ram you got? how many hard disks, what size, wtc?
[02:39] <z1haze> i have 2 1tb
[02:39] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: do you want to raid?
[02:39] <Antitau> hitsujiTMO: does this all look right to you? I might give this a go: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide#Removing_the_Driver
[02:39] <z1haze> http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d83/z1HaZe/hmm.jpg
[02:39] <z1haze> it recommends i do that im not sure what that does
[02:39] <z1haze> it say slike it will mirror or something
[02:40] <hitsujiTMO> Antitau: thats from a very old version of ubuntu. dont use. use the command i gave above
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: ahh you're using a provider. ok. ovh?
[02:41] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO: did u see my SS? im just not sure what to type where
[02:41] <z1haze> yep
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: what exactly are you using the server for?
[02:41] <z1haze> hosting minecraft servers
[02:41] <JoldWebb> LOL I may have to install ubuntu as a backup for my next computer. Its definately handy when I'm caught in a bind. Id use it as a main if they had more pro audio tool support.
[02:41] <z1haze> and  website
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: ok. how much ram?
[02:41] <z1haze> 32gb
[02:42] <JoldWebb> .msg z1haze you do MC servers too?
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: ok. up the / to maybe 50gb+, or 100gb tops. maybe up the swap to 2-4gb and you should be fine. the minecraft server/worlds should be installed into /home   such as /home/minecraft
[02:43] <z1haze> ok so / 50 or 100?
[02:44] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO: do i leave them all under PRIMARY type?
[02:44] <ajoul> how to format a USB drive
[02:44] <ajoul> FAST
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: yeah... 50 is prob enough. but if you're going to be messing around and installing other apps then 100gb might be a bit safer. I've seen / fill up far too often for new users
[02:44] <ajoul> how?
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: yup all primary
[02:45] <ajoul> HOW TO FORMAT A USB DRIVE PLEASE? ITS URGENT :/
[02:45] <z1haze> ok
[02:45] <hitsujiTMO> ajoul: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68809/how-to-format-a-usb-or-external-drive
[02:47] <ibDoug> I have not been able to find a functioning Twitter app.  Any ideas?
[02:48] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: also if your are doing backups of the world. stop minecraft from saving the world, then rsync, then allow mc to save the world again
[02:48] <z1haze> i im not sure what you mean?
[02:49] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO: would u look at that screenshot again and see if those numbers are ok as default? the / wasnt quite 50gb but its how it was default
[02:49] <aki2389> ajoul: mkfs.vfat
[02:51] <lotus-blade> is there a firewall installed by default on ubuntu 13.10? is it active?
[02:51] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: well, you know the way mc worlds can easily corrupt (especially with mods installed right?)  its a good idea to backup the world frequently. so when you do, you can pipe a command to mc to stop saving the world data, then do your rsync, then pipe a command to allow it write again. if you rsync a world whild its being written then you can end up with a corrupt backup
[02:51] <xangua> !firewall | lotus-blade
[02:52] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: / was 20gb in your original. you can easily fill that up if you're not careful so that's why i'd recommend upping it to 50/100gb
[02:52] <jedidiah_> Is anyone familiar with wireless Brother printers?
[02:52] <z1haze> i think that's over my head.. ok in this gui, how do i edit the /? do i click the recycle bin then redo it?
[02:53] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: delete all the partitions so. then add them one by one.
[02:53] <z1haze> alright
[02:54] <z1haze> dang, it wont let me, it says it cant be dleeted it would be in an inconsistent state
[02:54] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: even for /home it wont?
[02:55] <z1haze> just for / i didnt try another
[02:55] <hitsujiTMO> try ticking advanced mode
[02:55] <z1haze> ohhh, my bad hitsujiTMO: i had to delete them in reverse order
[02:56] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: lol cool
[02:57] <sadbox> Weird thing happened today: I did a apt-get autoremove -y (never using -y again =/) and it uninstalled most of my system before I noticed
[02:57] <hitsujiTMO> sadbox: something you removed before hand triggered that
[02:58] <z1haze> ok i did 80gb / and 4gb in swap, then the rest in /home
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: sweet that should be perfect for you
[03:00] <sadbox> hitsujiTMO: I'm not sure how since I have no removes in my apt-log between the previous autoremove and the giant one
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> sadbox: what about purges?
[03:01] <sadbox> none of those either
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> any dist-upgrades?
[03:01] <ash_m> hitsujiTMO: thank you and gonyere so much for helping resolve that. I really appreciate it. :)
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> ash_m: your welcome
[03:02] <sadbox> yessir, one of those
[03:02] <gonyere> np :) always hapy when i can help :)
[03:03] <hitsujiTMO> sadbox: that could have triggered a package change that may have caused it then
[03:03] <sadbox> weird
[03:03] <sadbox> So, looking through
[03:04] <sadbox> xorg-dev looks like the culprit
[03:04] <sadbox> It removed my *-lts-saucy stuff
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> sadbox: oh, not compatible with the sauch enablmentstack?
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> saucy*
[03:05] <sadbox> I guess not
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> sadbox, or may have triggered a switch to the precise stack
[03:06] <z1haze> hey hitsujiTMO: whats my best bet for moving all of my files over to the server from the old one?
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> there maybe an equivalent xorg-dev-lts-saucy
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: rsync over ssh i guess
[03:07] <sadbox> hitsujiTMO: yes, yes there is
[03:07] <sadbox> Thanks!
[03:07] <z1haze> is that like the scp i read about?
[03:07] <sadbox> z1haze: rsync would be better than rsync for that
[03:07] <sadbox> er
[03:07] <sadbox> rsync would be better than scp
[03:07] <z1haze> hmm
[03:07] <z1haze> riddles
[03:07] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: much better as it checksums aswell
[03:07] <z1haze> how can i do this rsync
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: rsync -ave ssh ip.of.old.server:/your/source/file /your/dest/file
[03:08] <sadbox> scp is some arcane old protocol which is barly more than cat file | ssh you@place cat - > file
[03:09] <z1haze> what is the -ave ?
[03:10] <sadbox> hitsujiTMO: my preference: rsync -avhze ssh --progress
[03:11] <z1haze> what are these flags doing?
[03:11] <sadbox> a = archive, which is a shortcut for a bunch of flags
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: hey I am on the laptop :D
[03:12] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: -a = archive mode( basically copies everything, such as permissions, etc) v is verbose, e is type of remove shell(specified with ssh)
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: I booted in using a previous kernel version. currently using 3.2.0-58-generic-pae :D in order to get graphics to work properly...sigh
[03:12] <sadbox> v = verbose, h = human readable numbers, z = compression, e = what sort of remove command to use (in our case, transfer over ssh)
[03:12] <z1haze> what if i dont want permissions, cause remember that was my problem in the first place
[03:13] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: you generally do want them. otherwise it will just save as your default umask.
[03:13] <sadbox> --progress = show progress bars because  they're less boring to watch for a multi-hour transfer
[03:13] <z1haze> lol
[03:14] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO: does that mean it will bring the file owner with it?
[03:14] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: yes, just recreate the same owners on the new server
[03:15] <z1haze> the problem with the old server is a i chown the root directory
[03:15] <z1haze> can i use rsync if i setup ssh keys.. ive bee told i should do that
[03:16] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: yup you should be using ssh keys no matter what
[03:16] <z1haze> ok ill set those up now
[03:16] <z1haze> i can do that after i installed the o/s right?
[03:16] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: make sure to disable passwaord auth once you have the ssh keys setup
[03:16] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: yup
[03:16] <z1haze> ok that should be an option in this gui im hoping , bbs imma set that up
[03:17] <z1haze> err: how do i make one?? is asks for name: then sshkey: then i register it..
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: one bit of advice, use a passphrase for the sshkey and use ssh-agent to manage the key
[03:19] <z1haze> man: this is deep
[03:19] <z1haze> i dont want to mess it up
[03:19] <ggreer> security is hard
[03:19] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: its actually really simple once you do it once
[03:19] <z1haze> do i do the generating RSA keys part
[03:19] <oboo> Hi ,please help is there anyway to compress a large file 500mb ???
[03:19] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: yup
[03:19] <z1haze> ok, so i have to login root at least once anyway right
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> oboo: tar czf file.tar.gz file
[03:20] <oboo>  <hitsujiTMO>  sorry ??
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> oboo: that will tar the file with gzip compression.
[03:21] <oboo>  <hitsujiTMO> do you mean in the terminal tar czf file.tar.gz file name ???
[03:21] <hitsujiTMO> oboo: yes
is tha will reduce the size ???
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> oboo: as long as its a file that compresses well it will
[03:22] <ggreer> z1haze: it might help a lot if you knew someone IRL who could help you with this stuff. I actually don't remember the first time I generated an ssh key, but it was definitely with the help of someone else
[03:22] <z1haze> yea sucks i dont have anyone
[03:22] <z1haze> im to the point now its asking me to enter a file where to save it
[03:24] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSH_Keys#SSH_agents is prob an explanation on how to use ssh-agent aswell
[03:25] <sadbox> hitsujiTMO: iirc ubuntu has the thing where whenever you try and use it it'll get auto-agentified
[03:26] <sadbox> Not that it helps if you're on a server install
[03:26] <sadbox> lol
[03:27] <ggreer> I tried mightily to get an ssh agent working on lubuntu and xubuntu, but I couldn't. I ended up just reinstalling ubuntu
[03:29] <ggreer> http://www.secretgeometry.com/apps/cathode/ <-- this thing is hilarious
[03:32] <JoldWebb> Hey Guys, nme again. Problem: ubuntu installer is not showing the option to upgrade ubuntu 12.04 as a possibility.
[03:32] <JoldWebb> Id rather not lose all files
[03:33] <xangua> JoldWebb: you have ubuntu 12.04 and want to upgrade to...?
[03:33] <JoldWebb> 13.x
[03:34] <xangua> JoldWebb: well you can't skip releases, the only exception is LTS from LTS: 10.04 to 12.04 and 14.04
[03:35] <JoldWebb> so... xangua I have to go to 12.10 to x to x?
[03:35] <xangua> JoldWebb: 12.10, 13.04, 13.10
[03:35] <JoldWebb> well sheeit.
[03:36] <JoldWebb> -weighs options-
[03:36] <Ben64> or wait 2 months and upgrade directly to 14.04
[03:36] <JoldWebb> Ben64: My pc's kernal is broken.
[03:37] <JoldWebb> Im updating as a wuick repair
[03:37] <JoldWebb> and by quick I mean easy way out
[03:37] <xangua> your kernel is broken¿
[03:37] <JoldWebb> yeah sorry, that
[03:37] <JoldWebb> anyways its dropping threads left and right
[03:38] <JoldWebb> regardless of importance
[03:38] <JoldWebb> It started happening after a failed kernel update
[03:38] <JoldWebb> figured this was a relatively easy fix
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: chroot in and fix the kernel
[03:39] <JoldWebb> hitsujiTMO: Im not exactly adept with linux. Im more windows.
[03:40] <JoldWebb> When ever a PC's OS gets beyond repair I put ubuntu on it instead of tossing it in the trash
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: you got a net connection up and running on the live cd?
[03:40] <JoldWebb> I can
[03:41] <JoldWebb> It might take me a bit, my pc crashed 20 times in a 4 hour period
[03:41] <JoldWebb> with the old ubuntu distro that is
[03:41] <daftykins> memtest!
[03:42] <Ben64> JoldWebb: yeah its more likely a hardware problem then a "broken kernel"
[03:42] <Ben64> unless you did some weird stuff manually
[03:43] <JoldWebb> Ben64: it was after a failed kernel update
[03:43] <JoldWebb> Thats the only reason why the kernel is involved
[03:43] <Ben64> still, do a memtest
[03:43] <JoldWebb> That and hardware was working fine moments before it happened
[03:44] <JoldWebb> hmm
[03:44] <hitsujiTMO> that tends to be the case before a hardware failure
[03:44] <JoldWebb> Ben64: where do I access that
[03:44] <Ben64> you can get to it from the boot menu (grub)
[03:44] <JoldWebb> lol hitsujiTMO
[03:44] <zz_chamunks> Whats a good alternative to Unity that handles dual screens properly on ati graphics cards.
[03:45] <hitsujiTMO> zz_chamunks: xfce4, openbox, gnome, kde, dwm, awesome-wm, the list goes on
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: gnome is the closest to unity, without being unity
[03:46] <chamunks> hitsujiTMO, My biggest issue is it needs to be stable on 12.04
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: they're all stable
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: what ati card do you have?
[03:47] <JoldWebb> alright running tests now
[03:47] <chamunks> Well Unity is supposed to be "Stable" but my issue is I've got some video intensive things that seem to just hate me.
[03:48] <chamunks> hitsujiTMO, I've got dual Saphire Radeon hd 6850's
[03:48] <chamunks> Running Dual 23" screens
[03:48] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: should be fine then no matter what DE you choose
[03:49] <chamunks> I would be comfortable with your assurances but it seems that as soon as I start using me DE for an extended period of time or try to use more then one workspace or play minecraft or a video in vlc...
[03:50] <chamunks> Either VLC starts displaying a black screen at certain screen sizes or minecraft trys to test if I have photosensitive seizures.
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: what driver are you using?
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> fglrx?
[03:51] <chamunks> hitsujiTMO, currently the default iirc because if I try fglrx it gets even more weird.
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: hmm, i'd be worried about 2 things with such issues: ample power going to the gpus, and no memory issues with the ram on the cards
[03:52] <chamunks> and you would imagine by this point the drivers are mature enough to not be that way but I really have no idea what could be buggy here.
[03:52] <chamunks> I've got a 750watt corsair 80plus rated psu and generally don't get issues in windows.
[03:52] <chamunks> So the psu should be more then sufficient but maybe I'll look into that.
[03:52] <hitsujiTMO> then heating is the next thing. use lmsensors to check what temps you're hitting when this happens
[03:53] <chamunks> Granted linux's support for dual video cards seems to be finicky out of the box.
[03:53] <hitsujiTMO> especially with ati. ati suuuuuck with drivers
[03:53] <chamunks> Yes they most certainly do.
[03:53] <yenic> is there a good UI for multimonitor in linux? xfce, lxde? because it definitely isn't unity
[03:53] <chamunks> The package in apt was lm-sensors.
[03:54] <hitsujiTMO> yenic: unity is much improved in 13.10 for multi monitor.     maybe check gnome
[03:55] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[03:55] <yenic> im still on 12.04 lts, i've tried 13.10 but only on single screens
[03:55] <chamunks> hitsujiTMO, tyvm
[03:55] <hitsujiTMO> yenic: i'd go with lxde over xfce personally.
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> yenic: stick with 12.04 til 14.04 comes out,m ten try out unity again
[03:56] <yenic> I've tried both but dont really like either. And I def do not want the Win95 style with long text descriptions. I like a left side toolbar in unity but not the top bar and the rest
[03:57] <yenic> yes I don't like non-LTS, which is basically beta from my experience. LTS is solid
[03:57] <hitsujiTMO> yenic: you can get some very nice themes for lxde
[03:57] <hitsujiTMO> yenic: yes the default theme sucks. but there are some very good ones out there
[03:58] <yenic> gnome3 looks very 'integrated' with a top menu bar as well, but otherwise looks OK
[03:58] <yenic> but this is for a 3 monitor setup
[03:58] <yenic> ill look into lxde themes
[03:58] <yenic> what's wrong with xfce?
[03:59] <chamunks> hitsujiTMO, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[03:59] <chamunks> sorry
[03:59] <chamunks> http://hastebin.com/yanegonufu
[03:59] <yenic> ElementaryOS's UI is actually pretty nice overall but shame I have to run something other than Ubuntu to get that
[03:59] <chamunks> my NB always runs hot.  the Asus crosshair IV formula is known to have a Northbridge cooler that doesn't make proper contact.
[04:00] <zack235> can someone help ive bin trying to setup a ad hoc network all day and have failed
[04:01] <zzzzzzzzzc0de> hi
[04:01] <zack235> hi
[04:01] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: you should run that when things start going funky
[04:01] <Bray90820> Is the touch skin for the desktop version of ubuntu
[04:02] <zzzzzzzzzc0de> installing lm-sensors
[04:02] <zzzzzzzzzc0de> rebooting
[04:02] <chamunks> hitsujiTMO, makes sense.  I'll try that but I have a sneaking suspicion its something else.  But I do kind of get the feeling that you could be right granted I hope to hell not.
[04:03] <zack235> hello>
[04:03] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: ati's tend to run quite hot so its a 50/50 guess
[04:05] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  I'm trying to install an ATI driver on a live system and I'm getting this error in the log: /lib/modules/3.11.0-15-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[04:07] <chamunks> hitsujiTMO, what driver would you recommend?
[04:07] <chamunks> Because I likely should be running something.
[04:07] <chamunks> I'm just itching for the next LTS to be honest.
[04:08] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: fglrx should be the latest available in the repo(13.101)
[04:09] <chamunks> so should I use http://screencloud.net/v/a9b8 or a different method.
[04:09] <JokesOnYou77> Can I install an AMD driver from the repo?  I was hoping the proprietary would be best but I'll take what I can get
[04:10] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[04:10] <wheatthin> JokesOnYou77, you can but with 13.10 and on,  I wouldn't recommend it
[04:10] <chamunks> hitsujiTMO, ok I'll run that and cross my fingers.
[04:10] <wheatthin> especially if you use chrome/chromium
[04:10] <JokesOnYou77> wheatthin, wouldn't recommend the generic or the proprietary?
[04:10] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: fglrx is the proprietary driver in the repo
[04:10] <wheatthin> JokesOnYou77, the generic performs better imho
[04:10] <JokesOnYou77> I'm trying to install an ATI driver on a live system and I'm getting this error in the log: /lib/modules/3.11.0-15-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[04:11] <JoldWebb> alright that mem test is part way through
[04:11] <JokesOnYou77> That's what happens when I try and install the one from the AMD website
[04:11] <JokesOnYou77> And I do use chrome extensively
[04:12] <JokesOnYou77> So, what do you recommend I do? I'm on an iMac with Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT
[04:12] <wheatthin> yeah I'd stick with the default honestly
[04:12] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: you're installing a legacy driver?
[04:13] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: that card is a legacy card. not supported by ati anymore
[04:13] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: you must use the open driver
[04:13] <JokesOnYou77> I'm using a live distro of XUbuntu and I frankly have no idea what I'm currently using.  But when I restore from suspend the whole screen goes gray
[04:14] <chamunks> hitsujiTMO, off the top of your head you wouldn't happen to know a good UI for handling an 11 button mouse would you?
[04:15] <chamunks> Logitech G700s
[04:15] <hitsujiTMO> chalcedny: afraid not. usually you need to dive into xorg.conf for that stuff
[04:15] <zack235> hello
[04:15] <anudas> hi
[04:16] <zack235> can you help i never got answerd
[04:16] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO, So should I install ubuntu-drivers-common or fglrx ?? Or try and force this thing from the website?
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: you cant do anything. you must use the radeon driver that you're using now. there are no other options as ati dropped support for it
[04:17] <zack235> helllo?
[04:17] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO, how can I check what I'm currently using?
[04:18] <wheatthin> JokesOnYou77, it'll tell you in the above computer in the top right hand corner
[04:18] <wheatthin> "about this computer"
[04:19] <JokesOnYou77> wheatthin, XUbuntu?
[04:19] <wheatthin> ahh crap lol nvm lol
[04:19] <JokesOnYou77> command?
[04:19] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: ith will be in your xorg.log   /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:19] <JokesOnYou77> ty
[04:20] <SonikkuAmerica> zack235: Hello. Mind describing your problem again?
[04:20] <zack235> one sec
[04:21] <zack235>  ive bin trying to setup a ad hoc network all day and have failed
[04:22] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO, the driver I downloded from amd is a legacy driver: 13.1  But I can't install it: /lib/modules/3.11.0-15-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[04:22] <zack235> is that goood
[04:22] <SonikkuAmerica> zack235: Why can't you set up an infrastructure-type network.
[04:22] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[04:22] <zack235> idk
[04:22] <SonikkuAmerica> zack235: What do you need the network for?
[04:22] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: thats incompatable with ubuntu beyone 12.04.1
[04:23] <JokesOnYou77> oh, crap... :/
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> beyond*
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: thats why i'm saying you must use the radeon open driver
[04:23] <zack235> to connect with android
[04:23] <JokesOnYou77> crud
[04:24] <SonikkuAmerica> zack235: You don't need a network to interface with Android storage, if that's what you want; just plug the thing into your computer via USB and go
[04:24] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: it requires an old kernel, and an old xorg for it to work. thats why its not shipped with ubuntu any more. they would ship it if they could
[04:24] <zack235> no i want wifi
[04:25] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO, but it only seems to want 3.11.0.15 and I thought that's what I had
[04:25] <SonikkuAmerica> zack235: You'll need to explain a bit more...
[04:26] <zack235> i want wifi on my android phone
[04:26] <SonikkuAmerica> zack235: So you want to use your Ubuntu machine as a WAP for your Android device...
[04:26] <SonikkuAmerica> (WAP = wireless access point)
[04:26] <zack235> kinda
[04:27] <morenoh149> I'm getting a black screen on boot. When I can catch the grub menu by holding the shift key, I get white vertical lines after 3 seconds. What can I do?
[04:27] <zack235> just somthing with internet connection
[04:28] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: its getting 3.11.0.15 from the command: uname -r       and the path: build/include/linux/version.h   doesn't exist in the linux kernel headers after kernel 3.2   thats why it can't find it
[04:28] <hitsujiTMO> zack235: do you want to surf on the android using the net connection on your pc?
[04:28] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO, OH!  Ok, that makes a lot more sense.  Also, that's amazingly impressive that you know what version that stopped being shipped in
[04:28] <zack235> yes
[04:29] <hitsujiTMO> !ics | zack235 lets see if this works
[04:29] <zack235> ok
[04:30] <hitsujiTMO> zack235: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless seems to be the link
[04:30] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: its just all from experience
[04:30] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO, Any suggestion on what I can do about the gray screen on resume from suspend?
[04:30] <SonikkuAmerica> zack235: I would recommend a bridged WPA infrastructure network, those are the most secure
[04:31] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: not sure on that one. that does sound like a driver issue
[04:32] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO, yeah, that's what I thought :/
[04:32] <zack235> well i suck at comps
[04:33] <zack235> hello
[04:33] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: all i can suggest is maybe try reporting a bug on the issue and see if it gets fixed. altho it could already be fixed in a later ubuntu. try booting a 14.04 live cd and see if the issue occurs there
[04:34] <zack235> i dont understand this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless
[04:34] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO, I might give it a try.  There might also be a boot option I could try.  I'm currently using some kind of funky methods to boot an iso via grub on the iMac
[04:35] <JoldWebb> hitsujiTMO: how many tests does memtest do
[04:35] <JokesOnYou77> JoldWebb, as many as you let it run for
[04:36] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: as many as you leave it do. it should tell you when its hit 1 cycle
[04:36] <JoldWebb> hitsujiTMO: s if it passes one cycle I should be good?
[04:36] <CarlFK> zack235: it makes your laptop similar to a wfi AP
[04:37] <zack235> i have a pc desktop
[04:39] <Evilmax> can ann ubuntu user use adduser?
[04:39] <Evilmax> give it the right privileges for use adduser?
[04:39] <Evilmax> give him
[04:39] <utusan> yes by doing sudo adduser uname
[04:40] <Evilmax> but then he has to use a password
[04:40] <Evilmax> he has to digit the pass?
[04:40] <JoldWebb> alright I passed two cycles of the memtest.
[04:40] <Evilmax> it would be an automatic process, and sudo requires tty
[04:41] <JoldWebb> I think I can rule that out hitsujiTMO
[04:41] <JoldWebb> So what should I do next
[04:42] <anudas> im on bit flip
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> JoldWebb: next is to chroot in from a live cd and fix the install. unfortunately i have to head to bed so can't talk you thru that one. hopefully someone else can chime in and help you there
[04:44] <JoldWebb> alright. Thanks for all the help man
[04:45] <hitsujiTMO> np
[04:46] <JoldWebb> -just realised he never ran the default repair program--
[04:46] <JoldWebb> dumbo me
[04:46] <utusan> zack235: if you just want others to connect to web thru your ethernet connection, then a wireless router is best
[04:51] <Donskoy> annyone have a kindle? How do I send pdf's from ubuntu to the kindle?
[04:51] <xangua> bluetooth, usb, mail, airdroid app, you choose
[04:54] <xangua> or did you mean a kindle, not kindle fire¿
[04:54] <xangua> nevermind then :P
[04:54] <dipu> ping in
[04:55] <dipu> ping out
[04:57] <Bray90820> Is this a good place to talk about using ubuntu with 3rd party boot loaders such as chimera
[04:59] <Evilmax> there is a way to disable a specific commannd in ubuntu?
[04:59] <Evilmax> for example...disable "ls -la" but not disable "ls"
[04:59] <z1haze> would anyone mine helping me rsync my files to my new server? im having trouble because my new server uses ssh keys
[05:00] <Evilmax> maybe by using an "alias" when an user digits "ls -la"...the system performs "cd .."
[05:00] <Donskoy> xangua, paperwhite kindle :)
[05:01] <Bray90820> I don't know if this is a good place to ask this but i can't get ubuntu to show in chimera
[05:01] <z1haze> how do i rsync when one of the servers have ssh key?
[05:01] <Donskoy> xangua, any suggestions? I tried a sendtokindle port but that didn't work o.o
[05:02] <ChogyDan1> Evilmax: maybe alias the ls command to a script that only accepts certain inputs
[05:02] <Donskoy> xangua, I'm installing calibre. thanks :)
[05:02] <Longfellow> does anyone have a minute to help answer some questions-specifically after installing from source and creating a menu in unity?
[05:03] <Evilmax> maybe i can set an alias "ls -la" = "clear" ...so everytime ann users write "ls -la"...he gets the clear command?
[05:03] <Evilmax> can an alias overwrite a command?
[05:05] <Evilmax> yeah
[05:05] <Evilmax> it works!
[05:05] <Evilmax> i am the n°1
[05:05] <Evilmax> :)
[05:06] <xangua> Donskoy: hope it works, calibre it's awesome it even has an android app I believe
[05:07]  * JamesKZOO yells!
[05:07] <JamesKZOO> grr
[05:07] <JamesKZOO> anybody willing to tell how I can get make onto a box w/o internet?
[05:07] <JamesKZOO> seems like i should be able to tell apt-get to use teh installation thumb drive?
[05:08] <JoldWebb> So on my ubuntu the newest version of ubuntu is listed, do all other updates have to be installed to begin an upgrade?
[05:08] <JoldWebb> *is not
[05:08] <JoldWebb> The newest version is not listed
[05:09] <hestia> when I install libapache2-mod-php5 I get this  libapache2-mod-php5 : Depends: php5-common (= 5.4.6-1ubuntu1.5) but 5.5.9+dfsg-1+sury.org~quantal+1 is to be installed . I am running Ubuntu Server 12.10
[05:09] <ChogyDan1> JamesKZOO: you can copy the deb files to apts cache location, which I think is /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:09] <Donskoy> xangua, sweet! thanks for the heads up! looking forward! :D
[05:09] <ChogyDan1> !paste | hestia
[05:10] <JamesKZOO> ChogyDan1: of course, make and build-essentials aren't listed there. bah.
[05:10] <JamesKZOO> perhaps if i can get a .deb, then just dpkg it on the new box?
[05:11] <zzzzzzzzzc0de> hi
[05:11] <ChogyDan1> JamesKZOO: sorry, I thought you already had the deb files, that was what my advice was for
[05:11] <ChogyDan1> !offline JamesKZOO
[05:12] <JamesKZOO> oooh oooh sweet... http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/amd64/build-essential/download
[05:12] <ChogyDan1> !offline | JamesKZOO
[05:15] <JamesKZOO> ChogyDan1: the target machine is offline. i *think* i'm trying to locate .deb files - still figuring it out :)
[05:15] <z1haze> i cant figure out how to rsync with this ssh key stuff can someone please help me
[05:16] <zzzzzzzzzc0de> hi
[05:16] <z1haze> it says the authenticity of the host cannot be established
[05:17] <Evilmax> what is .bashrc file? can i set an alias there to use it inn bash scripts?
[05:22] <Donskoy> hm. ubuntu one doesn't have a .gitignore file?
[05:23] <Donskoy> Does it have to store /everything/ I place in ubuntu one folder
[05:23] <Donskoy> would be great if it does have a .gitignore type file anyone know that they do or don't? or something that I can do about it programmatically?
[05:28] <Longfellow> anyone want to help a new guy try and figure out how to fix a .desktop file so it'll work on unity?
[05:29] <z1haze> anyone with a lot of experience with ssh keys/rsync can you please help me
[05:32] <z1haze> eh i figured it out i had the wrong user
[05:32] <z1haze> on the remote server
[05:42] <Da`borg> hello
[05:42] <Da`borg> im new to ubuntu
[05:46] <MrSalt> ?
[05:46] <wafflejock> hello
[05:47] <MrSalt> sorry, just playing around with a new client
[05:47] <wafflejock> no worries
[05:54] <SirCmpwn> how do I start nginx?
[05:54] <SirCmpwn> I tried sudo service nginx start
[05:54] <SirCmpwn> to no avail
[05:55] <SirCmpwn> where might errors be logged?
[05:57] <SirCmpwn> ah, got it
[05:57] <SirCmpwn> errors were in /var/log/nginx/error.log, was a config problem
[05:57] <SirCmpwn> "service nginx start" should _really_ print out some useful info, instead of failing silently with a zero return code
[05:59] <mojtaba> Hi, long time ago I have installed mysql in my laptop and now I don't remember its password. Does anybody know how can I find it in any configuration file?
[06:01] <Stainedhat> mojtaba: sudo mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables & mysql -u root
[06:01] <bleutyler> is this the room for technical questions?
[06:01] <mojtaba> Stainedhat: what does it do?
[06:01] <starnix> Somebody please help me get back my display I did uninstalled nvidia drivers but, still I could not get back the default setup.
[06:01] <Stainedhat> mojtaba: use mysql; update user set password=PASSWORD("new_pass") where User='root';
[06:02] <mojtaba> Stainedhat: ok thanks
[06:02] <Stainedhat> mojtaba: that bypasses the check for auth so you can reset the root password
[06:02] <Stainedhat> mojtaba: you may have to stop the service first: /etcinit.d/mysql stop
[06:02] <bleutyler> how can I make a file undeletable?  testing a script purposes  (sudo chown root:root isn't working)
[06:03] <Stainedhat> */etc/init.d/mysql stop
[06:03] <mojtaba> Stainedhat: ok, thanks
[06:03] <mojtaba> :)
[06:03] <Stainedhat> mojtaba: no prob.. good luck
[06:03] <Longfellow> is there a how to on getting a program i built from source to play nicely with the unity menu? the .desktop file i created isn't working
[06:04] <Stainedhat> oh and run "flush privileges;" before you quit mysql to log back in
[06:04] <sadbox> bleutyler: sudo chattr +i somefile
[06:05] <Stainedhat> bleutyler: you can make it immuatble with chattr _i
[06:05] <Stainedhat> *+i
[06:05] <Stainedhat> haha sadbox beat me to it :)
[06:05] <bleutyler> thank you
[06:06] <sadbox> bleutyler: sudo chattr -i file          For when you do actually want to delete it
[06:06] <sadbox> because with +i even root can't rm it
[06:06] <sadbox> =P
[06:07] <bleutyler> thank you this is exactly what I needed
[06:07] <sadbox> Stainedhat: it's amazing how often that comes up in interviews...
[06:08] <bleutyler> sadbox: you mean how to make a file undeleteable?
[06:08] <rww> yes
[06:08] <Stainedhat> sadbox: yeah, a good interviewer will test the small things ;)
[06:08] <sadbox> bleutyler: normally phrased as "You can't delete X file, what could it be"
[06:08] <bleutyler> yes, I think that has come up for me at least once too :)
[06:09] <savio> Million dollar question
[06:09] <savio> Is Ubuntu really shifting to systemd
[06:10] <sadbox> savio: One can only hope
[06:10] <savio> I read in blog
[06:10] <bleutyler> I suppose making a file immutable also freezes all timestamps on the file as well?
[06:11] <Stainedhat> yep, going the way of debian it appears
[06:12] <Stainedhat> bleutyler: I believe so yes.. making something immutable usually freezes it's state
[06:12] <bleutyler> from documentation I am reading that is what I believe happens.
[06:13] <sadbox> Not that I have any issues with upstart, but if the linux world could standardize on systemd + wayland, I think it would be a better place for all of us
[06:14] <rww> sadbox: halfway there, at least, and I'd take systemd over wayland right now :)
[06:14] <Stainedhat> bleutyler: "On Linux, timestamps cannot be changed for a file marked immutable, and the only change permitted for files marked append-only is to set the timestamps to the current time. "
[06:14] <rww> and given that KDE isn't doing Mir, I expect Kubuntu to eventually do wayland somehow
[06:15] <sadbox> rww: I think it'll prolly be harder to justify mir if/when wayland stabilizes
[06:15] <rww> *nod*
[06:15] <sadbox> I have hope!
[06:15] <dhruvasagar> Hi, I am trying to access & set properties using dbus-send, but getting an error, does someone have an example of how to do the same ?
[06:17] <ursnation> heyaz dudes
[06:19] <ursnation> no chat i reckon ..
[06:20] <dhruvasagar> how can I set a property using dbus-send ?
[06:21] <duckduck>  I am tech savvy in Windows only. I have had only minimal exposure to Linux. I am sorry that I can't answer my own, probably obvious, question. I am trying to install Ubuntu(sans unity) Xubuntu, Kubuntu, or *buntu, but I have some weird hurdles I don't know what to do about. I am poor, and I can't afford to buy any better disks at the moment. My burnable CDs have a maximum capacity of 702MB.
[06:21] <duckduck> All the CD ISO files I have downloaded have been larger than that, so I tried a couple minimal installations to no avail. I couldn't get very far in the installation, because it stopped me when there was a network error of some kind, which basically stated that it couldn't find the DHCP sever. Which ISO that is less than 700MB, but also good for aspiring Linux heads (no termal knowledge).
[06:22] <dhruvasagar> how can I use dbus-send to set a property
[06:22] <ursnation> do you have a USB stick?
[06:22] <ursnation> @duck
[06:22] <duckduck> I have a USB stick, but this bios doesn't allow USB installation.
[06:23] <ursnation> what computer do you have if you dont mind me asking
[06:23] <sadbox> There's the minimal CD, I'm not sure how friendly it would be to install for someone who's never used linux before though
[06:24] <ursnation> the minimal bootable is only good if you can ultimately (after boot) be able to connect to a server and receive the files
[06:24] <ursnation> there are some advanced techniques tho
[06:24] <ursnation> tha might interest you
[06:25] <ursnation> you can make an image on a separate macine
[06:25] <ursnation> and use that as the source (by using th minimal install) in order to install ubuntu on your device
[06:26] <duckduck> Presario CQ62 Notebook PC. I got stuck with the Minimal install, when it couldn't connect to the network. I don't have another machine.
[06:26] <BB--> can anyone help me with a usb 3.0 problem, they are not being recognized
[06:26] <duckduck> Maybe a good option would be to figure out why it can't get online?
[06:27] <ursnation> well does your bios support booting flash drives?
[06:27] <duckduck> :/ no. Tried that before I came here.
[06:27] <BB--> ikonia: r you available your familiar with my problem this is old user chisholm
[06:28] <sadbox> duckduck: I'm heading to bed, but if the fine people in this channel can't get it working I'd be happy to mail you a 12.04 cd or something
[06:28] <ursnation> a network installation could work, if you can get your hands on an additional  computer that can be your data storage for the ubuntu kit
[06:29] <ursnation> or maybe a portable DVD drive
[06:30] <sadbox> duckduck: my email is james@sadbox.org if it comes down to it
[06:30] <sadbox> night
[06:30] <ursnation> another question tho, could you reproduce the problem?  is it hanging at some specific point?
[06:31] <duckduck> Unfortunately, I don't have another computer or a portable DVD drive. I have this PC, an android phone, one blank 700MB CD, and a 1926 typewriter at my disposal. Are there no <700MB *buntu standard installers? Thank you sadbox! I will try to exhaust all options first.
[06:31] <duckduck> I could reproduce it and write down the specific error and return if you like, ursnation. It will take me a few minutes.
[06:32] <tgm4883_> duckduck, I believe the server installer is <700MB
[06:32] <ursnation> just walk me through it plz
[06:32] <ursnation> tell me where it hangs
[06:32] <ursnation> and what happens
[06:32] <ursnation> if you can remember
[06:32] <ursnation> what the issue it if you try a network install
[06:32] <smartracer> hi how can i change file permissions of my flash memory card?
[06:32] <duckduck> YES! thank you tgm4883_! I will try server really quick, then I will walk you through, if that fails, ursnation.
[06:33] <smartracer> i cant delete files at my memory card.it says read only file system error
[06:33] <ursnation> chmod prolly
[06:33] <ursnation> @start
[06:33] <smartracer> in terminal what command i need to enter?
[06:33] <smartracer> tell it clearly pls
[06:33] <ursnation> read around chmod and chown
[06:34] <ursnation> --help is your friend
[06:34] <ursnation> and man
[06:34] <smartracer> i read but i cant find details
[06:34] <smartracer> ok ok
[06:34] <ursnation> and google is full of all the innfo you need around it
[06:35] <ursnation> @duck sure mate, not sure how long i`ll be around
[06:35] <m> اليكس
[06:35] <ursnation> but if i am, lemme know
[06:35] <ursnation> glad to help
[06:35] <m> النيكس
[06:36] <duckduck> Thanks, man. I really appreciate you guys. You make the internet awesome.
[06:38] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to install owncloud for the first time and I get this error message, does anybody know what should I do? "Your web server is not yet properly setup to allow files synchronisation because the WebDAV interface seems to be broken."
[06:40] <ursnation> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV
[06:40] <Stainedhat> mojtaba: http://forum.owncloud.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7536
[06:41] <m> سكس
[06:41] <mojtaba> m: ?
[06:41] <mojtaba> Stainedhat: Thanks
[06:41] <mojtaba> m: wrong chat room
[06:41] <Stainedhat> np
[06:42] <m> sex
[06:44] <ursnation> quick question tho: does anyone have an idea where to start looking for this retarded issue i`m having regarding Chrome in UBUNTU?  For some reason when I want to move tabs around the one i pick up to move goes in a separate window and can`t be attached back to the group
[06:47] <mojtaba> m: what do you mean?
[06:48] <ursnation> ..
[06:48] <ursnation> how do i change my text cfolor here
[06:48] <ursnation> DAMN IT!
[06:48] <tozen> hi folks! does anybody testing 14.04 here? have an issues with unity-tweak-tool.
[06:48] <Serano> ctrl+k and no need to shout
[06:48] <ursnation> ss
[06:49] <ursnation> me?
[06:49] <ursnation> tozen ?
[06:49] <tozen> ursnation: (unity-tweak-tool:6183): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.compiz.scale' does not contain a key named 'show-desktop'
[06:49] <tozen> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[06:50] <duckduck> Okay. Ubuntu Server is burning. By chance, does that one come with with unity on it?
[06:51] <Serano> duckduck I don't believe it does since it isn't a gui
[06:51] <Serano> doesn't*
[06:51] <duckduck> Oh, no. It has no GUI?
[06:52] <duckduck> Can one be easily added?
[06:52] <snadge> cannot start openssh-server in ubuntu 13.10 live environment, unless i comment out the upstart check in /etc/init.d/ssh script.. is this a known issue?
[06:52] <snadge> or am I supposed to install upstart in the live environment?
[06:53] <tozen> duckduck: what for do you need gui installed on your server? o_O
[06:54] <duckduck> I am downloading server because minimal wont work without network, and server is the only distro <700MB, which is the size of the CDs I have.
[06:54] <smartracer> i tried chmod to change file permission even also its not changing.still showing read only file system.what can i do? how can i format it?
[06:55] <Stainedhat> duckduck: yes.. apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:55] <ursnation> t
[06:55] <tozen> smartracer: sudo?
[06:55] <ursnation> tt
[06:55] <ursnation> ss
[06:55] <smartracer> yes did as root user
[06:56] <tozen> ursnation: wazzap men? did u forgot the words?
[06:56] <ursnation> sorry dude
[06:56] <duckduck> Okay. I will be back if this doesn't work. Thanks so much.
[06:56] <ursnation> was teading a
[06:56] <ursnation> was reading around
[06:56] <Serano> duckduck is a USB stick no option?
[06:56] <ursnation> about changing my chat color
[06:56] <tozen> ursnation: no probs mate ;)
[06:56] <ursnation> i can`t be seen without my glassess
[06:56] <ursnation> :)))
[06:56] <ursnation> and some dude was trolling me i guess
[06:57] <smartracer> what you are trying to say tozen? how can i format that drive?
[06:57] <ursnation> on a forum
[06:57] <duckduck> No, Serano, my bios doesn't support that. See you again sometime.
[06:57] <tozen> ursnation: /set theme blablabla.theme ;)
[06:57] <smartracer> i tried chmod but file permission is not changing
[06:57] <ursnation> does blablabla stand for anything specific?
[06:58] <tozen> smartracer: try with <sudo chmod 777 /path/to/file>
[06:58] <smartracer> ?
[06:58] <Stainedhat> smartracer: are you sure the filesystem wasn't mounted read only in the first place? try mounting rw
[06:58] <smartracer> ok i will try and tell you the results
[06:58] <ursnation> to mounted file >.>
[06:58] <tozen> smartracer: this allows to change file to anyone
[06:58] <smartracer> ok
[06:59] <its> hello my GNU/linux friends
[06:59] <ursnation> are u root? if not maybe you should look into chown too
[06:59] <tozen> ursnation: no mate blablabla is a themes name as example
[06:59] <ursnation> tozen i`m gonna remind you at some point about my color issue (not racist..)
[07:00] <ursnation> so where do i find these themes?
[07:00] <ursnation> if you dont mind me feeding me a wee bit more
[07:00] <ursnation> :P
[07:01] <tozen> ursnation: if you using irssi then: http://www.irssi.org/themes
[07:01] <ursnation> i`m using the ubuntu standar one
[07:01] <ursnation> XChat
[07:02] <tozen> ursnation: ough!! no ideas, pal
[07:02] <ursnation> oryt mare, no worries then
[07:02] <tozen> i'm on irssi
[07:02] <ursnation> i`ll figure it out.. i always do
[07:02] <ursnation> thx
[07:02] <tozen> ursnation: ur welcome
[07:03] <ursnation> red
[07:03] <ursnation> s
[07:03] <ursnation> what
[07:03] <ursnation> hmm progress
[07:03] <Longfellow> so i'm building a .desktop file for an music app i just built from source, and i built it in /usr/local/src/musique but i need to run in terminal ./build/target/musique does that mean the exec=/usr/local/src/musque "./build/target/musique"  or did i miss something in the build from source?
[07:03] <snadge> so nobody has tried installing openssh-server package on a live 13.10?
[07:04] <Millennium1K> Hello?
[07:04] <ursnation> 36 >.>
[07:04] <ursnation> pink?
[07:04] <ursnation> ..great
[07:04] <Millennium1K> Anyone?
[07:04] <ursnation>  ......
[07:04] <ursnation>  test
[07:05] <ursnation> 33542 test
[07:05] <tozen> Millennium1K: what the matter? hi
[07:06] <Millennium1K> issues with tor..
[07:08] <ubuntu-studio> hello eveyone i need help over here. I was installing some kde desktop and got an error message. now when i reboot my grub does not appear to login
[07:09] <ursnation> test
[07:10] <ursnation> ssssasa
[07:10] <ursnation> i guess this will do
[07:11] <ursnation> sory for that
[07:12] <varius> есть кто
[07:12] <ursnation> so
[07:12] <ursnation> what`s going on
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[07:12] <varius> нерусь?
[07:13] <varius> sochi
[07:15] <jcadduono> I made the terrible mistake of trying to install Ubuntu on an Intel raid side by side windows.  Is there way to get a bootloader that works with fake raid?
[07:17] <Millennium1K> I cant get my ports correct for some reason...i need to find clues in the deep web.
[07:18] <gtristan> Can someone tell me what is the package containing libnsspem.so ?
[07:18] <gtristan> For Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[07:19] <Millennium1K> sadly not, 13.10
[07:22] <ursnation> people still use bots for irc?
[07:22] <ursnation> i used to sell those when i was a kid
[07:23] <jcadduono> Why does Ubuntu let you install it on a fakeraid when there are no compatible bootloaders
[07:24] <wafflejock> !fixboot
[07:24] <wafflejock> !fixgrub
[07:24] <wafflejock> jcadduono: not sure
[07:25] <ursnation> just google grub commands and you`ll get your sys up and running in 5 minutes
[07:26] <jcadduono> Already did that for an hour,  no matter what I try grub is unable to load fakeraid partirions
[07:26] <eagle1776> why do so many people like linux so much? I tryed it for about a year and I didnt like it as much as windows. Is there some feature or something I looked over perhaps ?
[07:26] <SirLagz> eagle1776: it's much more customisable
[07:27] <hewhomust> i love having access to all the apps from one source
[07:27] <ursnation> eagle1776: ubuntu is the real deal man
[07:27] <ursnation> since video card companies started building drivers for it (thanks to Steam)
[07:27] <IVplay> eagle1776: its also free
[07:27] <ursnation> it is really really awesome
[07:28] <hewhomust> i like windows 8 though
[07:28] <ursnation> i men for desktop usage
[07:28] <ursnation> and for server usage.. you just can`t beat it
[07:28] <Madcatyoji> I just canned Windows 8  for Linux.
[07:28] <hewhomust> poor bill
[07:28] <ggreer> I dual-boot
[07:28] <ggreer> need windows for testing stuff
[07:28] <ursnation> had win 8 for about a year, i mean.. since whee is the Shut Down button a setting?
[07:28] <jcadduono> Only thing Windows has over Linux is media player frame interpolation for me.  Makes me sad.
[07:28] <hewhomust> and games
[07:28] <ursnation> + it started to get really really buggy
[07:29] <ursnation> i just gave up on it
[07:29] <ggreer> I don't play games
[07:29] <Madcatyoji> I've got dual boot set up, but I can't imagine using W8
[07:29] <ursnation> in linux, it`s simple.. if it fails you can debug and fix
[07:29] <eagle1776> also does it have silver light support now ?
[07:29] <hewhomust> i cant find a de that i like though
[07:29] <HaiKaiDo> Hey guys, im trying to get ubuntu setup on a 2008 core 2 duo plastic macbook and on 13.10 everything works quite well. The only thing thats driving me crazy is the trackpad is jumpy and seems as if its on a grid. if i try to make a circle motion it comes out pretty much a square on the screen. ive tried things like synclient FingerLow=10; synclient FingerHigh=20 to help but to no avail. oddly enough on 10.10 it works pretty much perf
[07:29] <Madcatyoji> close to 5 minutes from power on to a workable desktop
[07:29] <hewhomust> except openbox
[07:29] <ursnation> it`s not abvout games man, it`s about the visuals you get in Xorg
[07:29] <HaiKaiDo> sorry for the wall of text, tried to get everything out all at once
[07:29] <ggreer> I have a not-particularly-fast laptop and it's maybe 20 seconds to boot
[07:29] <ursnation> the  video card support
[07:30] <ggreer> (windows 8.1)
[07:30] <jeetpei> Hello All, I have 12.04 Ubuntu and Devfs2 .. but i could not rename in Webdev ..
[07:30] <ggreer> less if you use shutdown instead of reboot, since that just hibernates
[07:30] <ggreer> for good boot times, it's important to have a fast SSD
[07:31] <ursnation> i`ve been running linux for a while in and out, and for about a year i`m into ubuntu
[07:31] <hewhomust> the only thing i hate about unity is the launcher
[07:31] <ursnation> only use win for games
[07:31] <ursnation> once in a while
[07:31] <jeetpei> does anybody know that if devfs2 in ubuntu support Rename ?
[07:32] <Madcatyoji> I'm on Xubuntu 13.10, boot time is around 20-30 seconds
[07:32] <jcadduono> I'm trying to decide between gnome and xfce right now.  Hardest choice of my life okay.
[07:32] <hewhomust> god damn i hate kde
[07:32] <HaiKaiDo> Anyone have any suggestions for my trackpad problem by chance?
[07:32] <wafflejock> really I'm liking KDE
[07:33] <wafflejock> HaiKaiDo: no idea sorry
[07:33] <ggreer> HaiKaiDo: no clue. :(
[07:33] <ursnation> i`m a gnome dude
[07:33] <HaiKaiDo> bummer
[07:33] <ursnation> ever been
[07:33] <HaiKaiDo> i wish there was a way to use the touchpad driver from 10.10 on 13.10  or the wireless driver from 13.10 on 10.10
[07:33] <ursnation> oh man, i might try another irc client
[07:33] <ursnation> this one kinda sux
[07:34] <HaiKaiDo> but I have no clue how to do that
[07:34] <wafflejock> yeah I used to like Gnome back when KDE was terrible, now it's a resource hog but I like all the customization, it's like old gnome
[07:34] <hewhomust> i like cinnamon
[07:34] <wafflejock> I've played with a lot though, XFCE Cinammon... both nice but not daily stuff for me
[07:34] <ggreer> http://abughrai.be/pics/screenshots/Screen%20Shot%202014-02-19%20at%2011.31.30%20PM.png <-- one of these days I'm going to get really sick or something and miss a day
[07:34] <wafflejock> Unity I couldn't stand the removal of menus and dash I do see the speed advantage sometimes but I didn't like that I couldn't customize things easily
[07:35] <ggreer> I used to use lubuntu. it wasn't bad
[07:35] <ursnation> fk unity.. bash all the way
[07:35] <ggreer> but then I just got a faster laptop
[07:35] <ggreer> problem solved
[07:35] <wafflejock> that's one I haven't tried
[07:35] <hewhomust> my favourite wm is openbox
[07:35] <HaiKaiDo> is it possible to use gnome from 10.10 on 13.10?
[07:35] <wafflejock> yeah I mean I have a i7 2.4GHz with 8GB of RAM
[07:36] <wafflejock> I'm not worried about the KDE weight just whatever works best
[07:36] <sorimoo> Hi. I'm unable to mount a partition!
[07:36] <hewhomust> sorimoo what does it say?
[07:36] <ggreer> lxde is similar to xfce in terms of footprint and customizability. it's just a matter of personal taste which one you'll like more
[07:36] <sorimoo> hewhomust, mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:36] <hewhomust> is it ntfs
[07:36] <sorimoo> hewhomust, ext4. I suspect the HD is dying, I had to reinstall Ubuntu twice
[07:37] <ursnation> man mount ... sudo mount /DEST /DRIVE
[07:37] <sorimoo> hewhomust, I get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock
[07:38] <hewhomust> sorimoo: what commands are you using to mount it?
[07:38] <sorimoo> FAT-fs (dm-5): bogus number of reserved sectors
[07:38] <sorimoo> nvm the last one
[07:38] <sorimoo> hewhomust, sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/mapper/disk1 /mnt
[07:38] <ursnation> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[07:39] <hewhomust> sorimoo sudo fdisk -l what does that give you?
[07:39] <ursnation> btw.. correct me please.. i always work as root.. i hate typing sudo all the time so i go sudo -i
[07:39] <ursnation> can that fk up permissions ?
[07:39] <hewhomust> no
[07:40] <hewhomust> just be careful what you run as root
[07:40] <ursnation> yea i am.. no worries about that
[07:40] <ursnation> i come from centos / mandrake and other old stuff
[07:40] <ursnation> so .. sudo is kinda new for me
[07:41] <sorimoo> hewhomust, Disk /dev/mapper/disk1: 936.2 GB
[07:41] <ursnation> and debian was my favorite for servers
[07:41] <sorimoo> Disk /dev/mapper/disk1 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[07:41] <ursnation> gparted available?
[07:41] <sorimoo> why would i need gparted?
[07:41] <wafflejock> ursnation: yeah the only real problem is you may create a folder or file as root by accident but you aren't doing anything different than if you were to run all of those commands with sudo first
[07:41] <wafflejock> ursnation: yeah you can get gparted
[07:42] <sorimoo> is there a way to "undelete" the files in case the filesystem is screwed?
[07:42] <wafflejock> ursnation: or partitionmanager if you're outside of the G
[07:42] <hewhomust> sorimoo run fsck on your disk
[07:42] <ursnation> gparted is a nice view of your disk
[07:42] <ursnation> easy for start-ups
[07:43] <sorimoo> hewhomust, One or more block group descriptor checksums are invalid.  Fix<y>?
[07:43] <HaiKaiDo> which interface was supposed to be a gnome look a like? was that MATE or Cinnamon?
[07:43] <hewhomust> mate and cinnamon
[07:43] <HaiKaiDo> oh both of them?
[07:43] <HaiKaiDo> is one better than the other? or is that one of those loaded questions
[07:43] <ursnation> hehe nice to run into you folks, gonna learn a lot for you :)
[07:43] <wafflejock> MATE was Gnome 2 I believe
[07:44] <wafflejock> fork that is
[07:44] <HaiKaiDo> so MATE can use GTK 2.0 themes?
[07:44] <hewhomust> yup so can xfce
[07:44] <HaiKaiDo> nice
[07:44] <wafflejock> MATE is a fork of GNOME 2. It provides an intuitive and attractive desktop environment using traditional metaphors for Linux and other Unix-like operating systems. MATE is under active development to add support for new technologies while preserving a traditional desktop experience
[07:44] <hewhomust> i like cinnamon because of the gtk3 support
[07:44] <wafflejock> google
[07:44] <hewhomust> sorimoo y
[07:44] <HaiKaiDo> Theres SO many GTK 2.0 themes I liked
[07:45] <ursnation> afk a few
[07:45] <HaiKaiDo> So I think im just gonna go back to that
[07:45] <HaiKaiDo> I hate unity honestly
[07:45] <sorimoo> hewhomust, Free blocks count wrong for group #0 (23513, counted=814).
[07:45] <sorimoo> Fix<y>?
[07:45] <HaiKaiDo> the side bar etc it meh
[07:45] <wafflejock> Actually I'm on GTK 2.0 using Kubuntu cause of some bugs in the Android developer tools
[07:45] <sorimoo> HaiKaiDo, try gnome 3
[07:45] <wafflejock> HaiKaiDo: yeah it's so hard to like :)
[07:45] <HaiKaiDo> lol
[07:45] <wafflejock> I really tried
[07:45] <HaiKaiDo> I tried gnome 3
[07:45] <HaiKaiDo> felt like an empty version of unity
[07:45] <HaiKaiDo> :\
[07:46] <sorimoo> HaiKaiDo, what do you want it to be filled with? it's has the best streamed UI
[07:46] <HaiKaiDo> I hate those things ont he side
[07:46] <HaiKaiDo> *on the side
[07:47] <sorimoo> I keep getting  Free blocks count wrong for group # , does it mean everything's gone?
[07:47] <HaiKaiDo> its like an ugly osx dock on the left and the multi desktop stuff on the right just isnt my thing
[07:48] <wafflejock> I really like KDE at the moment, there were a couple of bugs I had to work around (mapping numpad, block touchpad while typing) but aside from that I can put panels wherever and have them do a lot of cool things with the widgets, I haven't really seen open box saw that mentioned above
[07:48] <wafflejock> you need to spend like a week customizing KDE though
[07:48] <wafflejock> and if you don't have the resources you may be upset
[07:48] <HaiKaiDo> kde i dont like either XD
[07:48] <HaiKaiDo> im stuck in my ways
[07:48] <hewhomust> i have the resources im still upset its the apps
[07:49] <wafflejock> hewhomust: what apps are missing er what don't you like?
[07:49] <Stanley00> I just use the default Unity, and all I have to do is change desktop background :D
[07:49] <ggreer> my desktop environment isn't that important to me. I just need a browser, a terminal, and sublime text
[07:49] <wafflejock> hewhomust: I really like KMail and how everything is integrated through Akonadi, I just setup my Gmail stuff there and it pulls in my calendar and e-mail and all
[07:50] <Stanley00> and by the way, you should look at !ot
[07:50] <Stanley00> !ot
[07:50] <ggreer> Stanley00: thanks for the recommendation
[07:51] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[07:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Is there any way I can enlarge my / partition? i made it only 10gb and now i have only 300mb remaining :(
[07:51] <sorimoo> /dev/mapper/disk1: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
[07:52] <sorimoo> is it good or bad?
[07:52] <sorimoo> 348754/8314880 files (0.4% non-contiguous)
[07:52] <HaiKaiDo> sorimoo are you just trying to recover some files?
[07:52] <HaiKaiDo> from a botched install?
[07:52] <sorimoo> i ran the fsck command
[07:52] <sorimoo> HaiKaiDo, it's my main hd
[07:52] <sorimoo> was
[07:52] <HaiKaiDo> hmm
[07:53] <Stanley00> Wiz_KeeD: 10G is enough, you can clean some old deb files in /var/cache/apt via apt-get autoclean. And if you use /home on the same partition, you should move /home to another partition
[07:53] <sorimoo> now it's mounted!
[07:53] <HaiKaiDo> nice :D
[07:53] <Wiz_KeeD> Stanley00, /home has a different partition
[07:53] <nanashi_> sup
[07:54] <Wiz_KeeD> /usr is 4gb wtf
[07:54] <sorimoo> well, on the bright side, i have a lot more free space on that drive after i ran fsck
[07:54] <Wiz_KeeD> what other caches can I clear with the ui?
[07:54] <makara> hi. I can't update my server. Its not simple. Someone got 20min to walk me through it?
[07:54] <makara> `sudo apt-get update` just hangs
[07:54] <Stanley00> Wiz_KeeD: OK, you can try some cleanup. If you still want to resize. You can boot up a liveCD/USB and resize with gparted
[07:54] <Wiz_KeeD> what cleanup are we talking Stanley00 ?
[07:55] <hewhomust_> makara for how long?
[07:55] <makara> hewhomust_, until I ctrl+c
[07:56] <Stanley00> Wiz_KeeD: some log files in /var/log. some unused deb files, remove some package you don't need anymore
[07:56] <Wiz_KeeD> nothing comes to mind now Stanley00
[07:57] <hewhomust_> makara: try changing your sources to see if thats the problem
[07:57] <makara> hewhomust_, I've tried that
[07:57] <makara> I copied the sources.list to another server and it worked
[07:59] <Stanley00> Wiz_KeeD: then, just boot a liveCD/USB to resize, and remember to edit the /etc/fstab to mount new partition as /
[07:59] <Wiz_KeeD> pfuu
[08:00] <Wiz_KeeD> I will do that tonight and come back for help from you guys to do it properly
[08:00] <sorimoo> thanks a bunch guys
[08:02] <FuzzyThor> How do i run scripts that need sudo at startup in ubuntu desktop 13.04
[08:02] <hewhomust_> sudo crontab -e
[08:02] <hewhomust_> time option @reboot
[08:03] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: I prefer add that to /etc/rc.local
[08:03] <FuzzyThor> ok would that work if the script need to be in a screen session
[08:03] <hewhomust_> Stanley00: can you tell me what the benefits?
[08:03] <hewhomust_> are
[08:04] <FuzzyThor> Well
[08:04] <hewhomust_> i want to know
[08:04] <FuzzyThor> I have teamspeak with a perl bot that needs to use sudo for tracert and pinging
[08:05] <sandman> can anyone check the status of official repo for Nepal?
[08:05] <Stanley00> hewhomust_: that's just my opinion, and I don't know about @reboot in crontab :D
[08:06] <hewhomust_> ok i just learnt about it a couple of days ago thanks
[08:06] <FuzzyThor> i have been opening terminal and manually doing screen -S
[08:06] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: and than you must run that script in screen?
[08:07] <FuzzyThor> well for the perl mod if i close the term without screen the task stops
[08:07] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: screen -S? you want to send output to somewhere?
[08:07] <hewhomust_> sandman: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[08:11] <EleanorEllis> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I just had a low disk space error on root. When I looked there was less than 1GB and it was falling rapidly. This worried me. Then I noticed that a kernel upgrade had taken place. I checked in /boot and there were a lot of old kernels so I thought removing these would be a good idea, so I followed the instructions at http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/ubuntu-cleanup-how-to-remove-all-unused-lin
[08:11] <hewhomust_> EleanorEllis: whats wrong?
[08:12] <EleanorEllis> hewhomust_: That command is still running and seems to be generating grub.cfg over and over again.
[08:12] <EleanorEllis> And it never stops.
[08:12] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: well, if you run via rc.local, you will not see any terminal screen, and the script will run until it finish, so I don't think you need the screen here
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: hey I am on the problematic laptop :) if you have a spare chance now
[08:13] <ursnation> back
[08:13] <sandman> when i enter 'sudo apt-get update' i get this: 96% [Connecting to np.archive.ubuntu.com (120.89.98.2)] and the process fails
[08:13] <Lorith[Alpha]> what happened Psil0Cybin ?
[08:13] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: the script i want to run in a teamspeak monitoring bot I dont want it so ever stop
[08:13] <Stanley00> sandman: look like a network problem to me, not a repo problem :D
[08:14] <EleanorEllis> hewhomust_: I can't even pastebin what is happening in the terminal because the terminal is endlessly scrolling so I don't know what to do. Is there some way to pause what is happening without breaking something?
[08:14] <Lorith[Alpha]> @sandman try another repo, since maybe they have better connection
[08:14] <sandman> Stanley00: i am running Ubuntu 13.10 on Vbox
[08:14] <hewhomust_> ctrl c
[08:14] <Psil0Cybin> Lorith[Alpha]: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206432 << this silly little issue
[08:15] <Psil0Cybin> with my cedarview tail graphics and new kernel upgrades every time :(
[08:15] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: you mean your script has something like infinity loop?
[08:15] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: The script is a program and i want it to stay constant.
[08:15] <mike__> EleanorEllis: i think ctrl z will send it to the background but i wouldnt do that or ctrl c, how long has it been going
[08:16] <FuzzyThor> Its a .pl
[08:16] <FuzzyThor> A teamspeak monitoring bot
[08:17] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: well, I don't see how screen can help in this. If your script finish. screen won't rerun the script. Except your script will never end. If in that case. rc.local will do the same.
[08:17] <Psil0Cybin> Lorith[Alpha]: me and graphic drivers always must duke it out :(
[08:18] <EleanorEllis> Oh hang on, I just noticed that each time it generates grub.cfg, the list of kernels is getting shorter one by one, so it's just a bit of an inefficient way to remove all the old kernels generating grub.cfg each time rather than doing it once when they have all been removed. Presumably, once all the old kernels have gone then it will stop.
[08:18] <Lorith[Alpha]> can't help sry @Stanley00
[08:18] <Lorith[Alpha]> eh @Psil0Cybin
[08:18] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00 I gues its less of a script and more of a program written in perl i use ./rbmod.pl o run it in a screen
[08:19] <Psil0Cybin> Lorith[Alpha]: if you can take a look at my forum post and see if you can help id be forever greatful :D
[08:19] <EleanorEllis> I was right. It has finally stopped. That was a bit scary! I thought it was in an endless loop
[08:19] <Lorith[Alpha]> i saw it
[08:19] <Lorith[Alpha]> but i can't even fix my prob. with fglrx
[08:19] <mike__> EleanorEllis: *infinite loop
[08:20] <EleanorEllis> Now I have 9.5GB free instead of 500MB so that was a lot of kernels to remove
[08:20] <FuzzyThor> It need to stay up in the terminal or it will be usless
[08:20] <EleanorEllis> Panic over!
[08:20] <mike__> EleanorEllis: do u ever apt-get clean
[08:20] <EleanorEllis> mike__: No. I didn't know about that.
[08:20] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: script and program are the same to me. And run them in screen or via rc.local are the same to me.
[08:21] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: run a script via rc.local WILL NOT show a terminal, so you can not simply kill that program/script
[08:22] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: I dont want to kill it i what it always on. As long as the computer is on i want it on.
[08:22] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: yep, then just run that in rc.local
[08:23] <karra> hello all
[08:23] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: but, remember that it will be run BEFORE you logging in.
[08:24] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Its for my teamspeak server that i want on all the time. How many items can i have in rc.local
[08:24] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: as much as you want. It's just script ;)
[08:26] <Psil0Cybin> Lorith[Alpha]: thus my duke with graphics continues
[08:26] <Psil0Cybin> cedarview is a fighter.
[08:26] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Is there a way to make what i want open into a session I like the rc.local way but if I can have it start in a detached screen that would be great
[08:29] <randomcpp> hi, does anybody know how can I disable ctrl+space shortcut in unity?
[08:30] <randomcpp> at the moment this shortcut is set to switch between keyboard layouts
[08:30] <randomcpp> in trusty
[08:31] <mike__> randomcpp: system settings> keyboard> shortcuts
[08:32] <randomcpp> mike__, ctrl+space is not listed
[08:33] <DJones> randomcpp: Might be worth asking in #ubuntu+1 which is the support channel for 14.04 while its in development, possibly there's been some changes to the released versions, just be aware it's a smaller channel, may take a while to get a reply
[08:35] <sandman> this is weird, i installed Cinnamon on dualbooted Ubuntu and Ubuntu on Vbox, Unity on latter one works fine but on the former, i see only black screen
[08:36] <Lorith[Alpha]> err Psil0Cybin, did your display work w/o the graphic driver?
[08:36] <Psil0Cybin> Lorith[Alpha]: yes but poorly, so poorly I resort to using an outdated kernel.
[08:36] <Psil0Cybin> because the font hurts my eyes
[08:37] <ursnation> back
[08:37] <FuzzyThor> WOW
[08:37] <Lorith[Alpha]> aah
[08:39] <its> i dont think ubuntu 14.04 will be good,to mush spying there
[08:41] <Shain> May I get some troubleshooting help? I am a complete noob, and I would like to connect to my home DHCP network so I can install a GUI.
[08:43] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: sorry, I'm back now.
[08:43] <FuzzyThor> Its ok
[08:44] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: I like the rc.local solution but some thing i need to start in a screen session
[08:44] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: I have been looking for the best way but most places say something dif
[08:45] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: you can call your command/script as follow to run it in screen "screen /path/to/script.pl", just add that to rc.local
[08:46] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: or you can chmod +s to your pl script, and chown to root. That scipt wiil run as root and won't ask for sudo password. Than add that to startup desktop file in ~/.config/autostart
[08:48] <krababbel> Shain: just ask
[08:48] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Now that is an idea
[08:49] <Shain> I thought I had asked? Lol. May I have some help?
[08:49] <Stanley00> !ask | Shain
[08:50] <Shain> !ask
[08:50] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: could i do something like screen -S teamspeak ./home/ts3server_startscript.sh start in rc.local
[08:50] <poincare_> will this announcement ever come?
[08:50] <fdsfds> hi
[08:50] <hewhomust_> hi fdsfds
[08:50] <leeyaa> hello
[08:51] <leeyaa> i am trying to update an old system i inherited. when i try to update i get Could not resolve  proxy.foo.domain
[08:51] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: well, you need to change ./home/... to absolute path
[08:51] <leeyaa> where can this be configured
[08:51] <leeyaa> ?
[08:51] <FuzzyThor> yea ok
[08:51] <leeyaa> server does have internet conection
[08:52] <leeyaa> ping to google.com is working fine
[08:52] <FuzzyThor> so i dont need ./ for starting the script
[08:52] <Stanley00> leeyaa: you can check "env | grep -i proxy"
[08:52] <leeyaa> Stanley00: yeah it does have proxy configured
[08:52] <leeyaa> how to get rid of it ?
[08:53] <Stanley00> leeyaa: does that proxy url is "proxy.foo.domain"?
[08:53] <Shain> ursnation: This is duckduck. I am back. Do you mind helping me out?
[08:53] <leeyaa> it is yeah: http_proxy=http://proxy.foo.domain:8080/
[08:53] <fdsfds> can you ping proxy.foo.domain?
[08:53] <leeyaa> no
[08:54] <leeyaa> i want to get rid of it
[08:54] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: I mean you need to change it to "/path/to/home/ts3....sh"
[08:54] <leeyaa> that proxy server is on a vpn connection that i dont want to use
[08:54] <fdsfds> it can be blocked
[08:54] <leeyaa> where do you configure it
[08:54] <leeyaa> so you dont use proxy
[08:55] <Stanley00> leeyaa: maybe you can try 'export http_proxy="" ', repeat for all other proxy variables
[08:55] <fdsfds> what do you use?
[08:55] <leeyaa> Stanley00: will that make it permanent ?
[08:55] <fdsfds> if you have desktop, you can try to use desktop update
[08:55] <leeyaa> it is not a desktop
[08:56] <leeyaa> yeah export http_proxy="" worked
[08:56] <leeyaa> how to make it permanent ?
[08:56] <fdsfds> permanent makeup
[08:56] <leeyaa> fdsfds: huh ?
[08:57] <fdsfds> leeyaa:  huhu
[08:58] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Well home is in the root so /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/teamspeak would be absolute
[08:58] <Stanley00> leeyaa: export just has effect in current session. maybe it's set when using vpn program. or some startup script in your $HOME
[08:59] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: OK, i got it :D
[08:59] <fdsfds> config files in the user directory
[08:59] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: I just used readlink -f rbmod.pl
[09:01] <uruhack> hola
[09:01] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: So would the full line would be> screen -S teamspeak /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/teamspeak/rbmod.pl
[09:01] <leeyaa> Stanley00: yeah probably im just not sure where to look
[09:01] <leeyaa> it is such a mess
[09:02] <fdsfds> users
[09:03] <Stanley00> leeyaa: that startup script depend on your shell. you can find them in man $SHELL
[09:03] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: yep
[09:04] <leeyaa> Stanley00: bash ?
[09:05] <leeyaa> ah i found it in bashrc
[09:05] <leeyaa> thanks Stanley00
[09:06] <LukeSkyw> :-)
[09:06] <Shain> I am having issues connecting to my home DHCP network. I can see my network card. I can ping localhost, and I believe I have /etc/network/interfaces configured correctly. I think I am missing something simple.
[09:07] <LukeSkyw> Shain:  you want to do DHCP serv from pc?
[09:07] <ursnation> can u ping ips?
[09:07] <ursnation> try ping 8.8.8.8
[09:07] <icedwater> How does Ubuntu adjust the brightness of a screen at startup? I posted http://rndlygeek.blogspot.com/2013/11/reduce-screen-brightness-in-ubuntu-lts.html but it didn't work once I rebooted my laptop. I've been trying to grep brightness in /etc/rc* but to no avail.
[09:08] <LukeSkyw> Shain:  i have dhcp serv in the tplink box
[09:08] <ursnation> if you care to debug it, PM me
[09:09] <Shain> printing 8.8.8.8 gives me "connect: Network is unreachable"
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: you could add a command in your session startup to run the brightness command
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Shain: can you ping your router's internalIP address?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Shain: most use 192.168.0.1
[09:10] <ursnation> ok, is the cable from your ISP directly in your PC?
[09:10] <ursnation> most use ifconfig to find out
[09:11] <ursnation> but before we get to the router we need to know if the ISP cable is in a router or in he eth card
[09:11] <LukeSkyw> i mean, for less advanced is better grafical programs in desktop
[09:12] <LukeSkyw> grafical proxy server for example
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> LukeSkyw: why? Its a waste of resources
[09:12] <ursnation> no idea what a proxy gots to do with this tho
[09:12] <Rory> LukeSkyw: Usually, taking the 1 minute to learn the CLI usage is all
[09:12] <Shain> I ran ifconfig. What information are you looking for? Luke, no I can't ping my router.
[09:12] <ursnation> that`s like a last resort thing to investigate
[09:12] <LukeSkyw> ActionParsnip:  yes, for mp3 andi videos :D
[09:12] <Rory> LukeSkyw: Your opinion tends to revert after a while "ugh, isn't there a CLI version of this gui-only application" ?
[09:13] <ursnation> from th0 inet addr: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> LukeSkyw: also, if you use CLI, your skills will transfer. Not all systems have a pretty UI
[09:13] <icedwater> ActionParsnip: thanks, but I wanted to change the permission of the link so that I could echo 300 > brightness whenever I wanted. I guess I'll just add that into the session startup?
[09:13] <ursnation> *eth0
[09:14] <icedwater> Sometimes the login screen is blindingly bright, though, and I don't want to have to pick a dark background colour just because.
[09:14] <LukeSkyw> Shain:  what is your router?
[09:14] <ursnation> dude
[09:14] <ursnation> we dont know if he has a router yet
[09:14] <ursnation> please leave
[09:14] <ursnation> or i do
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: use:   echo 300 | sudo tee /whatever/whatever    and you can type your password and it will change
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: or you can add a script in /etc/rc.local which is backgrounded but has a wait so that the X server can come up
[09:15] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Well teamspeak started but. My perl mod is not starting
[09:15] <LukeSkyw> everyone must have router
[09:15] <ursnation> "my router is black and has one long tingy sticking out of it and it has some lights blinking"
[09:16] <ursnation> no, router is just a means to an end in order to share connections
[09:16] <ursnation> if you are the sole user of a connection
[09:16] <ursnation> you dont need a router
[09:16] <LukeSkyw> router is router
[09:16] <Rory> This is really interesting but not actually that relevant to the problem being diagnosed
[09:16] <Rory> #networking is the place to argue about semantics
[09:17] <ursnation> not gonna explain  to you what a router is or does
[09:17] <Shain> Ursnation, I am accessing the same router to talk to you. No, ursnation, I don't seem to be assigned an IP.
[09:18] <ursnation> Shain:  ok so you have a router
[09:18] <FuzzyThor> Shain If you had no ip you would not be online talking here
[09:18] <ursnation> ye
[09:18] <ursnation> ?
[09:18] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: hmm... does that script has some log? We need some output to figure out what's going wrong.
[09:18] <hewhomust_> lol
[09:18] <ursnation> good, tell me what ifconfig tells you
[09:18] <ursnation> under eth0 at inet addr:
[09:18] <LukeSkyw> does blick your ethernet card?
[09:19] <icedwater> ActionParsnip: ah, thanks. I will try that.
[09:20] <ursnation> he would if he wouldnt have a DNS
[09:20] <ursnation> irc does not use DNS
[09:20] <Shain> inet addr: 127.0.0.1 Mask:225.0.0.0
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: it will need backgrounding so the boot continues but the script sits and waits 10 seconds or so, so that the command runs as root
[09:20] <ursnation> no.. that is lo
[09:20] <ursnation> do you have eth0?
[09:20] <ursnation> or do you use wireless?>
[09:20] <ursnation> (wlan0)
[09:20] <Shain> wireless.
[09:20] <ursnation> ok
[09:20] <ursnation> wlan0 then
[09:20] <ursnation> what do you have in inet addr:
[09:21] <LukeSkyw> ok boys, you are living
[09:21] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: I try to run this is screen screen -S teamspeak /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak-mod/rbmod.pl then a sec later says screen is terminating
[09:22] <Rory> FuzzyThor: "screen screen" ?
[09:22] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: I mean in term
[09:22] <waneila_> ...
[09:22] <waneila_> jianbin
[09:22] <waneila_> nizainali
[09:22] <Rory> FuzzyThor: If you run just the command without the "screen" in front, does it run properly?
[09:22] <waneila_> 建斌，你在那里
[09:23] <Stanley00> !cn | waneila_
[09:23] <LukeSkyW> and ubuntu-china
[09:23] <FuzzyThor> Rory: nope screen terminates a sec after
[09:23] <Rory> FuzzyThor: Nono, run it WITHOUT screen
[09:24] <Rory> FuzzyThor: Just run /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak-mod/rbmod.pl
[09:24] <FuzzyThor> ok
[09:24] <foo357> Hello, what does the -U in this command mean: "sudo pip install -U pil " when I check the man for pip I see no -U option.
[09:25] <Rory> foo357: There isn't a -U option for pip
[09:25] <waneila_> thank you
[09:25] <FuzzyThor> Rory: well to run the the program i need to use ./
[09:25] <Rory> foo357: Where did you see to run that?
[09:25] <Rory> FuzzyThor: Yes, sorry you do, my mistake
[09:25] <foo357> Rory: well, is it something for sudo then?
[09:25] <Rory> FuzzyThor: But does it run properly?
[09:25] <Rory> foo357: "sudo -u user command" runs "command" as the "user" user
[09:25] <Stanley00> Rory: pip install --help => -U = upgrade :D
[09:25] <Rory> Stanley00: Not on the version in 13.10 repo
[09:26] <Rory> Oh Stanley00 my bad
[09:26] <foo357> Rory: yes, but that's not a capital u... here: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tilestache/1XUlLzNxwcs
[09:26] <Rory> Yes foo357 it's an option for "pip install" and it's a capital -U
[09:26] <Rory>  -U, --upgrade               Upgrade all packages to the newest available version. This process is recursive regardless of whether a
[09:26] <Rory>                               dependency is already satisfied.
[09:27] <foo357> Rory: thanks
[09:29] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: so, just run " /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak-mod/rbmod.pl" in terminal give you an error?
[09:30] <FuzzyThor> Rory: wow ok so instead of running as a norm user where it works when i use sudo. I su as root and its got dependencies that is cant locate
[09:30] <Rory> FuzzyThor: Forget the sudo thing. What are you trying to achieve overall here?
[09:30] <FuzzyThor> it*
[09:31] <Rory> FuzzyThor: From this page http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html#purpose : "It is often very important also to say what you are trying to achieve, not just what does not work, because in many cases what you want to do can be achieved in other and often impler ways, thus avoiding whatever problem you are experiencing.
[09:31] <FuzzyThor> well its a perl program that i want to start whe my server reboots that monitors my teamspeak channel.
[09:31] <Rory> FuzzyThor: Oh sorry I thought you were the Pip -U guy. I am coming back when I've finished my coffee because I've brainfarted three times already this morning
[09:32] <only-lemi> wanbeila
[09:34] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: hmm... can you pastebin the output when run  /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak-mod/rbmod.pl" in terminal?
[09:35] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Well this is strange its saying No such file or directory when i have its path
[09:36] <ursnation> try collabedit
[09:36] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: ill pastebin
[09:39] <nuragsu> ciao
[09:40] <yeshuah> any clues where to look when experiencing problems connecting to an specific FTP server from a specific ubuntu server? I can connect fine from all my other boxes.
[09:41] <ursnation> firewall for starters
[09:41] <ursnation> ?
[09:41] <LukeSkyW> what about ping?
[09:41] <ursnation> ping can be blocked
[09:41] <ursnation> config on your end atm
[09:41] <ursnation> ?
[09:42] <ursnation> why do you still use FTP?
[09:42] <ursnation> :))))
[09:42] <adac> isn't ALT + F2 the shortcut for to execute applications? That does not always work for me actually
[09:42] <adac> mean i can enter the ocmmands but they are not always executed
[09:42] <ursnation> ,,bash
[09:42] <LukeSkyW> ursnation: what you use instead of FTP? :D
[09:43] <Rory> yeshuah: Can you connect to other services on the box other than FTP?
[09:43] <Rory> yeshuah: (ie is it FTP that is broken, or all network connectivity to the host)
[09:43] <ursnation> :)) dropbox :))
[09:43] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Ok I put it up. I have it in my steam directory for easy switching as i run a game server with my teamspeak server http://pastebin.com/fVSzTZAF
[09:43] <x3_iVaN> adac: run commands vía terminal
[09:44] <mike__> yeshuah: try passive mode
[09:44] <Rory> adac: Could you give an example of something where you hit alt-F2, run a command and it isn't executed?
[09:44] <yeshuah> mike__: have tried passive mode / and lftp
[09:45] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: you had ONE dot at the first command? it must be  /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak-mod/rbmod.pl ,start with a slash (/)
[09:45] <LukeSkyW> ursnation: web store?
[09:45] <ursnation> sorry?
[09:45] <yeshuah> Rory: I can succesfully FTP into releases.mozilla.org from the same box
[09:46] <ursnation> could you rephrase please
[09:46] <ursnation> didnt get the question
[09:46] <adac> Rory, for example typing in eclipse and then just press enter. Nothing ever happens
[09:46] <adac> but the app is found
[09:46] <LukeSkyW> ursnation: do you know, what is FTP?
[09:46] <yeshuah> Rory: mike__ - the response when it fails is - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6964569/
[09:46] <ursnation> yes.. file sharing system.. oldie stuff.. no security blablabla
[09:47] <Rory> yeshuah: I mean, are there any other services listening on this remote host? Such as ssh or http?
[09:47] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: ok so now when i try to use screen lets see
[09:47] <LukeSkyW> ursnation: hmmmm, it is not file sharing :D
[09:47] <Rory> yeshuah: I see "login failed" - is there supposed to be a username and password in the script?
[09:47] <yeshuah> Rory: nope - I only have access to FTP on this specific remote
[09:47] <LukeSkyW> ursnation: it hasnt be file sharing
[09:47] <glambert> any idea why hostname and hostname -f come back with completely different results?
[09:48] <ursnation> it`s a protocol
[09:48] <Rory> yeshuah: Can you tell me what you get if you type "telnet hostname 21" - replace hostname with the actual IP of the box
[09:48] <glambert> eg getting "test" back for hostname and "tested.domain.com" for hostname -f
[09:48] <ursnation> for file sharing
[09:48] <yeshuah> Rory: Yes and I provide the correct username / password. It works fine when connecting from a different box
[09:48] <LukeSkyW> ursnation:  your drobbox is only file sharing :D
[09:48] <ursnation> o.O
[09:48] <ursnation> what else do you use ftp for?
[09:48] <Rory> glambert: type in: man hostname
[09:48] <Rory> glambert: Read the section on "The FQDN" and the usage for "-f-"
[09:48] <Stanley00> glambert: because -f return FULL host name :)
[09:49] <yeshuah> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6964580/
[09:49] <mike__> yeshuah: from what i can tell max users reached, perhaps you are logged in twice
[09:49] <LukeSkyW> ursnation:  why to say to you? you think taht you have something better :D
[09:49] <Rory> Ok yeshuah looks like it's working perfectly. What problems are you having connecting?
[09:49] <glambert> Stanley00, no kidding, but the first part is different when it shouldn't be
[09:49] <glambert> Rory, thanks.
[09:50] <yeshuah> mike__: nope :(
[09:50] <ursnation> LukeSkyW: hmm.. i`m here to learn, if you know something i dont, please share
[09:50] <yeshuah> Rory: Once it receives my username and password then it just disconnects me
[09:50] <LukeSkyW> ursnation:  goto wiki nad ftp
[09:50] <LukeSkyW> and
[09:51] <yeshuah> Rory: again - this doesn't happen when I connect from any other place be it browser on my other machines / other command lines.. only on this one box
[09:51] <LukeSkyW> ursnation: and propably, you need to know, what is difference between server and client
[09:51] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: ok using screen -S teamspeak /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak-mod/rbmod.pl opened a screen
[09:51] <yeshuah> Rory mike__ : so I was thinking it could be some local caching issue on this machine
[09:51] <Rory> yeshuah: if you type "ftp hostname" does it let you log in?
[09:51] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: with it running
[09:52] <LukeSkyW> ursnation: but you need it to know practically
[09:52] <yeshuah> Rory: it prompts me for username and password - but then closes connection once it receives them
[09:52] <LukeSkyW> bze
[09:52] <LukeSkyW> bye
[09:52] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: but when i use -dm there is no screen
[09:53] <ursnation> yeah, sure..
[09:53] <ursnation> says lots about ya mate
[09:53] <ursnation> ;)
[09:54] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: what are -am doing here? you didn't mention that?
[09:54] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Well i wanna put it in a dettached screen
[09:55] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: but for now i am just going to reboot my vm with screen -S teamspeak /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak-mod/rbmod.pl
[09:56] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: OK, good luck.
[09:58] <szsocial> hello can anyone help me setup a irc network on my new vps :)
[10:00] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: well some reason the rbmod.pl is not loaded
[10:00] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Would this work /usr/bin/screen -dmS test bash -c '/home/username/test.sh; exec bash
[10:01] <FuzzyThor> provided i change the path to the script
[10:01] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: it will make do difference
[10:01] <pok_> does lamp supports ruby?
[10:02] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: hmm... can you add " >> /tmp/rbmod.log " after that command, reboot, and pastebin the file /tmp/rbmod.log?
[10:02] <FuzzyThor> ok
[10:03] <Rory> pok_: Yes, there's a few Ruby on Rails thingies. This is the big one https://www.phusionpassenger.com/
[10:03] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: like this screen -S teamspeak /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak-mod/rbmod.pl  >> /tmp/rbmod.log
[10:03] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: yes
[10:04] <Rory> Basically FuzzyThor the idea is to get the ruby script working perfectly on its own first, and then worry about running it at startup
[10:04] <FuzzyThor> Rory: the script runs fine
[10:05] <FuzzyThor> Rory: I manually use all the time
[10:05] <FuzzyThor> Rory: I just want to automate its starup
[10:05] <Rory> !pm > pok_
[10:07] <FuzzyThor> Rory: http://pastebin.com/H5ekKPsk
[10:08] <pok_> is it possible to put php code in a server within browser without any local installation/set up of wamp/lamp etc..?
[10:09] <Rory> pok_: You want people to be able to see the php source code? Or you want your server to execute it and display the results?
[10:10] <pok_> Rory: i want server to execute the code
[10:10] <Rory> pok_: Then you need a PHP installation, and a web server
[10:10] <pok_> Rory: as i am very new & hence wonder how it works
[10:10] <Rory> !lamp | pok_ this is most common
[10:10] <Rory> pok_: Basically, when a php page is requested, apache asks PHP to execute it. Apache then serves the resulting page to the user
[10:11] <pok_> Rory: i have ready made code/snippet of php code(like "hello world") does it still require php installation?
[10:11] <Rory> pok_: Yes of course...
[10:11] <pok_> Rory: can i use web server/apache within browser
[10:11] <pok_> Rory: why?
[10:11] <Rory> pok_: You need a web server, running on some computer (could be the computer you're on now)
[10:12] <Rory> pok_: You need a PHP interpreter to actually execute the PHP code
[10:13] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: I wanted a delay when the rbmod is ran would putting sleep 5 in the rc.local stop it from working
[10:14] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Also the rbmod.log is blank
[10:15] <pok_> Rory: ok, so inplace of complete bunder of LAMP/WAMP; i can also use separate installaion of PHP & webservers like apache?
[10:15] <pok_> bundle
[10:15] <brontosaurusrex> pok_, afaik php has its own server lately
[10:16] <brontosaurusrex> which you can run localy
[10:16] <urs> lll
[10:16] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: did you add sleep in rc.local?
[10:17] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Um..... Maybe?
[10:17] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00L: but is so gone now
[10:17] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: but is so gone now
[10:18] <FuzzyThor> So to awnser my ? that would break it
[10:19] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: it won't break but rc.local must finish before you login, so add sleep just make you boot longer.
[10:19] <rick_> Hi all, Is it possible to build mesa 10.0 on raring?
[10:20] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: can you try add " 2>>/tmp/rbmod2.log " into rc.local again?
[10:20] <leeyaa> guys
[10:20] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Yea ok
[10:20] <leeyaa> is there a way to list what packages and when were installed ?
[10:20] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: like this  screen -S teamspeak /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak-mod/rbmod.pl  >> /tmp/rbmod.log 2>>/tmp/rbmod2.log
[10:20] <leeyaa> im more interested in when
[10:21] <Stanley00> leeyaa: dpkg -l to list all installed/removed package
[10:21] <FuzzyThor> reboot it
[10:22] <Stanley00> leeyaa: to know when, maybe you need the log in /var/log apt.log or dpkg.log, I'm not sure about that
[10:22] <pok_> rick_: i gues php can be executed in some cloud service also!! like heroku/c9.io
[10:23] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: It made to blank logs
[10:23] <FuzzyThor> two
[10:23] <Gallomimia> pok_: apache usually comes with a php module installed. it's been a long while since i last checked. i haven't had any trouble running mysql and apache/php on ubuntu server with regular apt-get install packages
[10:24] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: hmm... how about without the screen at the beginning? just " /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak-mod/rbmod.pl  >> /tmp/rbmod.log 2>>/tmp/rbmod2.log"
[10:24] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: sorry, but I need to debug this :D
[10:25] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Hey as long as I works in the end I am all happy.
[10:25] <FuzzyThor> it
[10:26] <pranav> how to know send voltage to the pins when kubuntu is running in an arm microcontroller ?
[10:26] <Gallomimia> teamspeak is a mod?
[10:26] <Gallomimia> forgive me for butting in as i know very little about teamspeak, other than it's a pain to host. tried mumble yet?
[10:27] <Gallomimia> FOSS
[10:27] <rick_> leeyaa, use dpkg -L pacakgename
[10:29] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: This time it didnt make any files /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak-mod/rbmod.pl  >> /tmp/rbmod.log 2>>/tmp/rbmod2.log
[10:30] <FuzzyThor> ill reboot again
[10:30] <Gallomimia> is 2>> &1 the same as the 2nd redirect above?
[10:31] <Gallomimia> oh. he's doing separate files
[10:31] <Gallomimia> i see it now. i'd still lilke to know if it's possible to do that redirect 2>> &1
[10:32] <FuzzyThor> Yep just made to empty logs
[10:32] <Gallomimia> maybe nothing was output?
[10:32] <Gallomimia> you could try tee instead of redirect to file?
[10:32] <FuzzyThor> How would i use it
[10:33] <FuzzyThor> trying to auto start this perl script i have
[10:33] <Gallomimia> instead of >> filename you use | tee filename
[10:33] <FuzzyThor> ok
[10:33] <Gallomimia> tee still shows the output on screen. for debugging usually
[10:34] <ohoot> i have  encoded a 3gp video to mp4 format using fftmpeg but the quality still the same please help is there any way i can change it's quality ????
[10:35] <FuzzyThor> Gallomima: Well what i want is to have screen -S teamspeak /home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak-mod/rbmod.pl start at boot in rc.local
[10:35] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: sorry, I busy now
[10:35] <ohoot> ???
[10:36] <ohoot> i have  encoded a 3gp video to mp4 format using fftmpeg but the quality still the same please help is there any way i can change its quality ????
[10:36] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Thanks for you help thus far. I am a step closer to what i wanted to do
[10:37] <Gallomimia> i'm not an expert by any means but...
[10:37] <ohoot> i have  encoded a 3gp video to mp4 format using fftmpeg but the quality still the same please help is there any way i can change its quality  ????
[10:37] <Gallomimia> i have a screen script that i can show you
[10:38] <ohoot> Any help ???
[10:38] <Gallomimia> !patience | ohoot
[10:38] <Gallomimia> did you try man fftmpeg?
[10:39] <Gallomimia> Stanley00: screen -A -m -d -S <nameyourscreen> <commands>
[10:39] <Gallomimia> no angle brackets
[10:39] <ohoot> and what's this
[10:39] <Gallomimia> the manual for the program you're using
[10:39] <humbag> ohoot: it seems unlikely that you improve the quality just by converting
[10:40] <ohoot> the quality is to bad even though the format changed
[10:40] <Gallomimia> it's somewhat impossible to improve the quality of a video through any means at all
[10:41] <DrPc> how to release next ubuntu?
[10:41] <Gallomimia> DrPc What version are you running?
[10:41] <ohoot>  <Gallomimia> so there is no way AT ALL ???
[10:41] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: can you pastebin your rc.local now? it must make two, atleast bank" file in /tmp
[10:41] <Gallomimia> you can probably make it larger, but so can fullscreen in a player
[10:42] <humbag> Gallomimia: do you mean to start a detached screen? should be -d -m
[10:42] <Gallomimia> i forget what -A does, but -S names your screen
[10:42] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00 it has made 2 blank file in /tmp
[10:42] <Gallomimia> and... does the order matter at all?
[10:43] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: http://pastebin.com/4PewrZz8
[10:44] <hexacode> is it me or is debian.org down???
[10:44] <Gallomimia> hexacode: wfm
[10:44] <FuzzyThor> Just you
[10:45] <hexacode> i mean wiki.debian.org
[10:45] <hexacode> it just infinitely loads for me
[10:45] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: there's "./home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak3/ts3server_startscript.sh start" at the begin? there's ONE DOT at beginning?
[10:45] <fidel> still you
[10:46] <fidel> hexacode: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ ;)
[10:46] <FuzzyThor> That works just fine teamspeak is open
[10:46] <hexacode> lol
[10:46] <ohoot> Does the video format has anything to do with the video Quality ????
[10:46] <DrPc> MSG <Gallomimia> <12.04 stable>
[10:46] <FuzzyThor> but ok
[10:46] <Gallomimia> ohoot no not really
[10:46] <Gallomimia> DrPc the command you're looking for is "do-release-upgrade"
[10:47] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: no, there must be no ./, it must be absolute path
[10:48] <Gallomimia> shouldn't be a dot at all in that path. most people's home is in /
[10:48] <humbag> Gallomimia: sorry you're right the order does not matter
[10:48] <Gallomimia> well, .local/ nevermind. shouldn't start with a dot
[10:49] <Gallomimia> humbag: someone else wrote the script for me and i've been copying it ever since
[10:50] <Gallomimia> so i'm glad to learn more, i've taken occasion to look up the reasons for the different options. don't always remember them
[10:50] <Gallomimia> as for the rc.local they're talking about. i'm lost. what's that for?
[10:51] <FuzzyThor> Ok its absolute
[10:51] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: rebooting
[10:52] <DrPc> private /msg <Gallomina>
[10:52] <DrPc> private /msg Gallomina
[10:52] <DrPc> thank so much
[10:52] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Well the log files are still blank but my ts3 server is up and running
[10:53] <DrPc> Gallomimia: thank so much
[10:53] <Gallomimia> number one drpc it's rude to randomly message people in private. hopefully we can talk where everyone can see the solution. number 2, you spelled my name wrong, use !tab. and number three, to message someone it's just /msg someone message
[10:53] <Gallomimia> you're welcome
[10:53] <Gallomimia> !tab
[10:53] <fyksen_> .
[10:54] <humbag> Gallomimia: it's legacy boot scripting, there's /etc/rc[1-6].d for the run-levels and /etc/rc.local for extras. now ubuntu use upstart jobs and the service command
[10:55] <Gallomimia> oh that stuff. yeah i've tried some of that
[10:55] <bjorn96> can i install unity web player on ubuntu?
[10:55] <DrPc> Gallomimia: sorry , i want to try open private box with command .
[10:55] <Gallomimia> isn't it switching to.... systemd ??
[10:56] <Gallomimia> DrPc: that's sometimes /query name
[10:56] <humbag> dunno Gallomimia
[10:57] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: is that rbmod show up a gui?
[10:57] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: There is no gui for it. It connect to my teamspeak server
[10:59] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: it connect inside script or must connect via screen -S option?
[11:00] <FuzzyThor> I need to be in an open session to work
[11:00] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: I cann't do much if there no output at all :(
[11:00] <FuzzyThor> It
[11:00] <FuzzyThor> There is a script to make it autostart but it does not work for me i found it but
[11:01] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: http://pastebin.com/6NUULTqM
[11:01] <Gallomimia> pretty sure the mod connects to the ts server via sockets
[11:02] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: but when i try to run the autostart.sh http://pastebin.com/P89xajX1
[11:02] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: Pastebin.com is under heavy load right now :(
[11:03] <FuzzyThor> oh
[11:04] <FuzzyThor> http://tny.cz/37e13d25
[11:04] <FuzzyThor> alternative
[11:05] <FuzzyThor> http://tny.cz/424010b9
[11:05] <holden87> hi guys. Could anyone help me with editing the .css in gnome-shell? What i want to achieve is to have liberation sans narrow condensed in gnome shell, but it wont work.
[11:05] <FuzzyThor> so the first is the script the second is my end result
[11:06] <holden87> i deleted cantarell, and it worked, but don't know in which package are liberation sans narrow condensed fonts
[11:16] <bjorn96> can i get some help?
[11:16] <Trollmaster> aboot?
[11:16] <bjorn96> do u know empathy?
[11:16] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: I don't know, but look like that mod need screen to connect to socket
[11:17] <FuzzyThor> Yea once the terminal is closed the mod stops working
[11:17] <FuzzyThor> I can manually start it
[11:18] <FuzzyThor> jst fine
[11:18] <FuzzyThor> but when ever i reboot my syste, I have to open like a crap load of screens to run everything i want but
[11:19] <FuzzyThor> now that rc.local will work for some things its not as bad
[11:20] <fosser_josh1> is WMI client available for ubuntu? I tried aptitude wmi-client command. seems that package is not available. i got error "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "wmi-client"
[11:21] <bjorn96> is it anyone that uses empathy here?
[11:22] <x1> Hi how do I take i screenshot of a web page?
[11:22] <Rory> bjorn96: Probably, since it's the default chat program
[11:22] <Rory> x1: prntscrn
[11:23] <x1> yes but some of the web page is off screen
[11:23] <Rory> x1: If you want the whole page and it doesn't fit on the screen, there are extensions for various browsers. Try searching online for "Firefox webpage screenshot" or "chrome webpage screenshot" to find them in their respective addon repositories
[11:23] <x1> is there a way of doing without an addon
[11:24] <x1> ?
[11:24] <Rory> x1: take a screenshot, save it. Scroll down, take another one. Repeat. Stitch images together in an editor like GIMP
[11:24] <Rory> x1: or http://browsershots.org
[11:24] <bjorn96> ok. how do i add a account at rizon into empathy?
[11:25] <Rory> bjorn96: " sudo apt-get install account-plugin-irc " to install the IRC plugin. Then restart Empathy and add a new IRC account with your rizon info
[11:26] <chemist^> bjorn96, you could just use hexchat or xchat you know...
[11:26] <wiherek> Hi
[11:26] <chemist^> hgi
[11:26] <Rory> chemist^: you could just use weechat you know... let people use what they want
[11:26] <wiherek> I connect to a VPN, where they use hostnames instead of ips
[11:26] <wiherek> the connection is over pptp
[11:27] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: I need to work now, sorry, I can help you any more :(
[11:27] <wiherek> i have the routes setup correctly, I can connect to the machines
[11:27] <bjorn96> E: could not find the package account-plugin-irc
[11:27] <Rory> bjorn96: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[11:27] <bjorn96> 12.04
[11:27] <FuzzyThor> Its ok i need to get to bet its 3am
[11:27] <wiherek> they provided me a list of DNS servers to resolve the hostnames - where should I add the DNS??
[11:27] <bjorn96> LTS
[11:27] <FuzzyThor> bed*
[11:27] <chemist^> Rory, i did not say he shouldn't use empathy... but wouldn't it be better to use an irc client to connect to irc networks instead of installing plugins in other software?
[11:28] <Rory> bjorn96: Then IRC support is already included, without the need to use an additional plugin
[11:28] <chemist^> just my opinion
[11:28] <Rory> bjorn96: Go to set up a new account of type IRC
[11:28] <bjorn96> rory, ok...
[11:29] <Rory> bjorn96: Put in the rizon server info, and your account info
[11:29] <bjorn96> but i dont have it.
[11:29] <bjorn96> :/
[11:29] <Rory> bjorn96: ...don't have what?
[11:29] <bjorn96> irc.rizon.com?
[11:29] <Rory> I don't know!
[11:29] <Rory> It's your thing, lol
[11:30] <raid1ubuntu> hello ubuntu 14.04 will be LTS again. when i take the daily build of it, will it be compatible/updateable to LTS of it later?
[11:30] <Rory> raid1ubuntu: Yes
[11:30] <raid1ubuntu> is this easily possible with unattended-upgrades?
[11:30] <Rory> raid1ubuntu: On release day, a fully updated system installed from an alpha ought to be identical to a stable iso install
[11:30] <onca> I allowed my machine to update itself and now it boots showing the ubuntu logo then I get a black lifeless sceen
[11:31] <raid1ubuntu> i am using 12.04 LTS right now with unattended upgrades
[11:31] <Rory> onca: Does the issue remain if you select an older version of the kernel from the Grub boot menu?
[11:31] <Rory> raid1ubuntu: No, you won't get it automatically
[11:31] <raid1ubuntu> Rory: ok so its just a apt-get upgrade?
[11:31] <onca> rory I'll check
[11:31] <Rory> raid1ubuntu: Sorry, I misunderstood. You will need to do "sudo do-release upgrade"
[11:31] <Squiggz> he yi have a quick question about getting my second hdd  recognized
[11:31] <Rory> raid1ubuntu: That is the only way to move between Ubuntu versions
[11:32] <raid1ubuntu> Rory: but service-configurations etc will still be the same? or do i have to re-setup everything?
[11:32] <bjorn96> rory, could not get your personal info from the server
[11:32] <Rory> raid1ubuntu: In theory, an upgrade is seamless with no reconfiguration required
[11:32] <Squiggz> if anyone can help
[11:32] <raid1ubuntu> Rory: i havent done this on ubuntu, i did it years ago on a debian (if i remember correct) and a lot of things didn't work after that
[11:32] <Rory> bjorn96: Do you have a rizon account?
[11:33] <bjorn96> yea, bjorn96
[11:33] <Rory> bjorn96: Do you know this is the Ubuntu support channel on Freenode?
[11:33] <raid1ubuntu> ok so i will give it a try
[11:33] <nego> hi friends i have question?
[11:33] <Rory> bjorn96: If you are having problems setting up an account on rizon, you ought to ask their support whatever it is
[11:33] <bjorn96> ok. :/
[11:33] <raid1ubuntu> hopefully i am able to install ubuntu 14 on a raid1 now.. 12.04 did not work
[11:33] <bjorn96> :D
[11:33] <Rory> bjorn96: Can you show me a screenshot of the information you're putting in to the setting up new account?
[11:33] <raid1ubuntu> the install freezed every time i tried
[11:34] <nego> i i cant get ports forwarded
[11:34] <Rory> nego: on your router?
[11:35] <nego> i'm connect with repeater alfa R36
[11:35] <Rory> nego: You've accidentally joined #ubuntu which is the official IRC channel for Ubuntu support. You'll not find your answer here; try your router manual. Or ask in a more general tech support channel like #reddit-sysadmin (be aware adult content is permitted in that channel)
[11:37] <Squiggz> anyone avalible for a quick help on getting my second hdd device recognized
[11:38] <Squiggz> and then alot of help on a usb 3.0 problem
[11:38] <x1> Rory, http://xmodulo.com/2014/02/convert-html-web-page-png-image-linux.html
[11:38] <Rory> !details | Squiggz
[11:39] <Rory> x1: Perfect! That's probably what browsershots uses in the background :)
[11:39] <Squiggz> Rory: ok i have gparted i just dont know what iam doing
[11:39] <Rory> Squiggz: Well, what's the end-goal here?
[11:39] <Squiggz> ubuntu is on my 60gb ssd
[11:39] <Squiggz> and i have a wd hdd 1tb
[11:39] <Squiggz> that i want to save apps and music file etc...
[11:40] <Squiggz> i am reading the help info on it and i just kinda got lost
[11:40] <Squiggz> i got to the download gparted and i found the disk
[11:40] <Squiggz> and it says unallocated so that where i am at now
[11:40] <Rory> Do you want me to walk you through moving your /home/username directory to the second hard drive?
[11:40] <antifa> hi
[11:40] <chemist^> nego, how are you trying to forward ports?
[11:40] <Rory> Squiggz: Do you want to use the entire WD 1tb drive for this purpose?
[11:41] <Squiggz> depends I would like to save specific things like bittorrent, mozilla, and plex on the ssd
[11:41] <antifa> guys how come  when I open nautilus as root I cant acces my network shares ?
[11:41] <Rory> antifa: network shares are saved per-user
[11:41] <Squiggz> but most other things like movies music files and some select apps on the wd 1tb
[11:41] <raid1ubuntu> Rory: thx for your help i will try 14.04 now
[11:41] <antifa> so how can I acces them as root ?
[11:42] <Squiggz> yes i use unbutu only i dont dual boot or anything
[11:42] <Squiggz> ubuntu*
[11:42] <Squiggz> and the wd will be used to save whatever on the drive no booting just saving
[11:42] <Rory> Squiggz: It's a little more complicated to do that, due to the fact that Ubuntu packages install in specific locations
[11:43] <Rory> Squiggz: I'm happy to hold your hand if you want to move, say, *all* your userspace programs and files to the second drive
[11:43] <Squiggz> hmmm ok well, the apps isnt a big deal its a 60gb ssd i think it will be ok
[11:43] <Rory> Squiggz: Take a look in disk usage analyser and see where our space is going
[11:43] <Rory> Chances are it's mostly in /home
[11:43] <chemist^> Squiggz, more than enough for default ubuntu applications
[11:43] <Squiggz> ok then all i really want is the wd 1tb to be for miles music movies and that stuff
[11:44] <chemist^> Squiggz, so then just mount it and use it? ... or do you need to create/format partitions on it?
[11:44] <Squiggz> its all going to the "Tempest"
[11:44] <yacc> Squiggz: well, for that usecase we've got a number of tools, LVM, plus flashcache.
[11:44] <Squiggz> there is a home folder in the disk usage but i havent put anything on it yet
[11:45] <Rory> Squiggz: Can you see what is the largest top-level directory?
[11:45] <Squiggz> its the 6ogb ssd
[11:45] <Rory> Squiggz: Yes but I mean, is it /home, or /usr, or what
[11:46] <Squiggz> the top is tempest (/) then below is /home
[11:46] <Squiggz> thats all i got
[11:46] <PapaSierra> does anyone know who maintains the gearman package for ubuntu?
[11:46] <Rory> Squiggz: Okay that's right. You were confusing me with "tempest" but I guess that's the name of your machine :P
[11:46] <Squiggz> haha yea sorry my bad
[11:46] <onca> I can only seem to get into a terminal, after an upgrade my machine will not load x.. how can I try to repair this?
[11:46] <Rory> Squiggz: It's easiest to do this from a LiveCD or LiveUSB, do you have access to one?
[11:46] <Rory> onca: Does the issue remain if you select an older version of the kernel from the Grub boot menu?
[11:47] <Squiggz> uhhh maybe?
[11:47] <Squiggz> haha i should probably tell you I am extreamly new to linux
[11:47] <Rory> Squiggz: Only if it's to hand. If it's not, no problem
[11:47] <Squiggz> yea all i got right now is gparted
[11:47] <Rory> Squiggz: So you're in gparted now, looking at unallocated space?
[11:47] <Squiggz> and am looking at my unallocated drive
[11:47] <onca> rory I believe so, but I had to edit /boot/default/grub and change the hiddent option to false, but the menu still doesn't show
[11:48] <Squiggz> i built this computer
[11:48] <Rory> onca: Hold shift while your computer is booting until you see the menu
[11:48] <onca> thanks
[11:48] <Rory> Squiggz: awesome, good for you :) Right-click on the unallocated space and select New
[11:48] <Squiggz> and as far as i got was install ubuntu on my ssd
[11:48] <Squiggz> got a no partition found
[11:48] <Squiggz> popup
[11:49] <Rory> Sure you have the correct drive selected from the dropdown in the top-right of gparted?
[11:49] <Rory> And you see one entry in the list, unallocated space?
[11:49] <Squiggz> yup i did the sudo command
[11:49] <Rory> you go to Partition -> New
[11:49] <Squiggz> and found it to be called sbd
[11:49] <Rory> sdb
[11:49] <Squiggz> ok
[11:50] <onca> Rory, the problem does persist
[11:50] <Rory> hard drives are named sda, sdb, sdc etc
[11:50] <Squiggz> yea sdb my bad
[11:50] <Rory> onca: Did you recently install new graphics card drivers?
[11:50] <onca> no but I did an update
[11:50] <onca> and nothing else
[11:51] <onca> I regret my decisiion
[11:51] <Squiggz> the popup tells me to go to device- create new partition , im guessing follow that instruction?
[11:51] <Squiggz> create partition table sorry**
[11:52] <Rory> Yes. Basically when you're done, you want to have one partition, taking up all the available space on the disk (don't worry if there's a couple of mb unallocated at the end)
[11:52] <Rory> Squiggz: Yes, sorry, if it's a brand new drive you will have to create a partition table first
[11:52] <SupaYoshi> Can anyone tell me a list of very well supported low end graphic cards for ubuntu?
[11:52] <SupaYoshi> or give me a list :D
[11:52] <Rory> And you want to format that drive with the "ext4" filesystem
[11:52] <Rory> SupaYoshi: Integrated Intel HD graphics
[11:52] <Rory> SupaYoshi: Integrated AMD graphics
[11:52] <SupaYoshi> I want to upgrade some old XP systems of eldern people to Ubuntu or Elementery OS based on Ubuntu ;)
[11:52] <Squiggz> ok cool i should be able to take it from here for a bit, my other question is way harder ill be back shortly thanks for the help rory!
[11:53] <SupaYoshi> So just Integrated Intel HD graphics is best? :D
[11:53] <Rory> Squiggz: You aren't done... by a long way
[11:53] <SupaYoshi> what about a pc that doesnt have these?
[11:53] <Rory> SupaYoshi: All you've done here is make a partition, it's just sitting there. You need to set up your home directory to be mounted
[11:53] <SupaYoshi> What AMD / NVIDIA cards should i get? :D
[11:53] <Squiggz> yea i figure i get this done first, buttt neverrmind
[11:53] <fakoff> SupaYoshi: depends.. i have nvidia and they did a decent driver for it
[11:53] <SupaYoshi> 8400 gs works... so so on a laptop
[11:53] <SupaYoshi> Nice :P
[11:53] <Rory> SupaYoshi: You'd be hard-pressed to find a laptop without integrated graphics
[11:53] <onca> looks like I am reinstalling
[11:53] <Squiggz> its asking me to select new partition table type
[11:53] <SupaYoshi> Not really :P hehe
[11:54] <Rory> !patience | or4n
[11:54] <SupaYoshi> Im talking about XP hardware :P
[11:54] <SupaYoshi> hehe
[11:54] <Rory> Sorry or4n , the intended recipient ragequit
[11:54] <Rory> Lunchtime now, I'll be back in an hour Squiggz if you still need guidance
[11:54] <Squiggz> rory: and in the drop down ext4 is not an option
[11:55] <pranav> if i use ubuntu variant in a product and sell it. how does this cover ubuntu license ?
[11:55] <Squiggz> ok cool sounds good
[11:55] <Rory> Squiggz: What types are available?
[11:55] <Rory> Squiggz: Bear in mind this is for the new *partition* not the new partition *table*
[11:55] <Rory> Squiggz: for the partition table you can select either of the two types
[11:55] <Squiggz> msdos,aix,amiga
[11:55] <Rory> msdos
[11:55] <Squiggz> ok gotcha
[11:56] <onca> rory can  I rollback an upgrade?
[11:56] <Squiggz> it worked thanks now i just gotta do this partition thing the default looks correct
[11:56] <onca> or do I have to reinstall?
[11:57] <Rory> !patience | onca ask again in a bit, it's a common issue
[12:00] <Squiggz> thanks ROry it worked!!!
[12:00] <Rory> Guys I just ran "source ~/.bash_history" instead of "source ~/.bash_alises" - how screwed am I?
[12:01] <Rory> my Vm just rebooted but I have no idea what it just ran first
[12:05] <yacc> Rory: that depends on the content of your bash history.
[12:08] <pratikl> Hi, is there any utility in Ubuntu to connect to a socket on some <xyz> port number?
[12:08] <iwantoski> pratikl: curl
[12:08] <bs0d> telnet?
[12:09] <nvdpl> Hello everybody.
[12:09] <iwantoski> putty works also
[12:09] <Devil> hi
[12:09] <nvdpl> Is there a quick fix for a "dpkg-statoverride: error: An override for ..." error (other than rebuilding the package) ?
[12:10] <nvdpl> Looks like kernel upgrade in 12.04LTS tries to write the same file (kernel image) (linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic).
[12:10] <pratikl> bs0d Thanks, telnet worked :)
[12:10] <Guest50092> I would like to create a Partition whereby I can move all my important files and then delete my Ubuntu Install and reinstall it again, with the new partition intact with all my important files...can anyone help?
[12:11] <pratikl> iwantoski: Thanks for your inputs as well. I will try those too
[12:11] <Squiggz> guest50092: i just did that let me give you the link
[12:11] <Guest50092> thank you Squiggz
[12:11] <Squiggz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[12:12] <Squiggz> its using gparted its super simple took about 5 minutes after alittle help
[12:13] <Guest50092> Is there no way without Gparted?
[12:13] <snadge> fdisk or parted
[12:13] <Squiggz> probably you'll have to ask a smarter person then me tho lol
[12:16] <Guest50092> I have to use a Live CD to create or resize a partition as Gparted cant do anything while partitions are mounted
[12:18] <snadge> you can get a gparted livecd
[12:18] <fakoff> what`s wrong with fdisk?
[12:18] <snadge> fdisk wont do gpt
[12:19] <diverdude> Hello, when i try to install mediawiki on my ubuntu 13.10 machine i get an error saying: "PHP was compiled without JSON support. You must install the PHP JSON extension". How do i do that?
[12:19] <fakoff> well.. not GUI, but still gives you all you need i believe
[12:19] <fakoff> gparted should do well tho
[12:19] <snadge> sudo apt-get install php5-json
[12:20] <OerHeks> fakoff, not when partitions are mounted, Guest50092 is right
[12:20] <fakoff> oh.. didnt read that far
[12:20] <fakoff> sry
[12:20] <karab44> hello
[12:21] <karab44> I have troubles with recording voice from my desktop. I use audacity
[12:23] <philinux> karab44;~ have you tried sound recorder?
[12:23] <karab44> yes but it says (gnome-sound-recorder:24719): GStreamer-WARNING **: Element 'gconfaudiosource' already has parent
[12:27] <karab44> I don't know what input exactly choose to record my desktop
[12:33] <Guest50092> Which partition choice is best for media storage?
[12:33] <Rory> Guest50092: Do you need to access it from Windows?
[12:34] <yacc> Rory: good one, I'm always forgetting about the Windows users :)
[12:34] <Guest50092> No just Ubuntu or maybe another Linux Distro
[12:34] <Rory> Guest50092: ext4
[12:35] <ruien> Hello. Can anyone assist with some custom repository confusion, or suggest a more appropriate channel? The question is formatted nicely here: http://dpaste.com/1641887/
[12:35] <Guest50092> I want to be able to store my Media securely separate from my OS install that way I can delete and reinstall new OSes without losing my media
[12:35] <fakoff> boot 100Mb, swap twice your ram and the rest ext4
[12:35] <Rory> Guest50092: Just make a new partition, formatted as ext2 or ext3 or ext4, and keep your media there
[12:35] <usr13> Guest50092: I always just use a separate partition for /home/
[12:35] <Rory> fakoff: "swap twice your ram" is only good advice up to about 4GiB of RAM
[12:35] <fakoff> latest distro dont require you to manually create /boot
[12:35] <Guest50092> extended partition?
[12:35] <Guest50092> new extended partition?
[12:36] <Rory> Guest50092: Makes no matter really
[12:36] <usr13> Guest50092: logical partition
[12:36] <fakoff> ext4 is better tho
[12:36] <usr13> Guest50092: Depends on how many you have now
[12:36] <yacc> Rory: and even for 4GB RAM 8GB swap can be quite painful.
[12:36] <fakoff> manages the filesystem faster
[12:37] <fakoff> i have 8Gb ram and run 16Gb swap
[12:37] <Guest50092> and this new partition will not be destroyed if I delete the partition with the OS on it?
[12:37] <fakoff> but i do use it intensely
[12:37] <fakoff> and also use LVM
[12:37] <Rory> Well I have 16GiB RAM, and taking up 32GiB of my 128GiB SSD would be stupid
[12:37] <usr13> Guest50092: Just make a new partition and make the mount point /home/your-user-name/Media   (where Media = the name you really want...it's up to you).
[12:37] <yacc> Rory: filling 8GB straight, sequentially at 100MB/s takes over 80s => so you have an extended trashing (as in the PC spends his time with swapping, and only swapping) before the OOM killer "liberates" the system.
[12:37] <Rory> yacc: Linux doesn't just fill up all available memory and then start frantically writing to swap
[12:38] <fakoff> no, it just moves to swap what you dont use
[12:38] <Rory> yacc: It maintains a copy of data in RAM within the swap partition, so it can swap out if it needs to
[12:38] <fakoff> for later invoking
[12:38] <usr13> Guest50092: When you delete a partition, it is your choice which one(s) to delete and which one(s) you leave.
[12:38] <philinux> SWAP > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[12:39] <fakoff> Rory: i need the big swap
[12:39] <fakoff> so, for a desktop, ye it`s pointless to go over board if you have 4 GB ram
[12:40] <zacarias> Hi. I have a brand new computer (with nothing installed but Linux) which is supposed to have (and has it) 4 GB of RAM. However, the "hardinfo" tells me that it only has 3388 MB. Why is it so? I knowe that in Wndows there is this type of limitation, but does it exist in Linux also? I would like tu upgrade to 8 GB, but it's useless if it only uses 3388 MB.
[12:40] <usr13> Guest50092: When I do an install, I create 3 partitions, one for swap, one for /, and one for /home/.  If I decide to do a fresh install, I reformat all but /home/
[12:40] <Rory> I didn't say you didn't need it, I'm just saying swap space is based on usage requirements, and nowadays "ram x2" isn't actually that good of a rule-of-thumb
[12:40] <Guest50092> looks like I have to resize "/" partition sda1 and then create a new partition using the unallocated space
[12:40] <Rory> Guest50092: Yes, and you will have to do this from a LiveCD as you cannot shrink a partition which is in use
[12:40] <fakoff> watch out for the primary limit tho
[12:40] <usr13> Guest50092: Probably so, (depending on what is on the rest of the drive and what you can do without).
[12:40] <Guest50092> Right I need a live CD
[12:40] <fakoff> no more than
[12:40] <fakoff> 4
[12:41] <Guest50092> which I have thanks
[12:41] <usr13> Guest50092: Yes you do.
[12:41] <Guest50092> because I cant resize with gparted while Sda1 "/" ismounted
[12:41] <yacc> Rory: well, my personal experience is that no swap is bad (you want to stuff that unused stuff there), some cache is okay (really seldom used stuff), but having swap without consideration for how long it takes to feel (aka the 2x rule) leads to situations where you hard reset the box because you don't want to wait minutes if not hours before the thing becomes responsive.
[12:41] <yacc> zacarias: 32 or 64 bit install.
[12:41] <usr13> Guest50092: The install CD has partitioning utility, you'll find it when you boot the Live OS.
[12:41] <bjorn96> can i install unity web player on ubuntu 12.04?
[12:42] <Guest50092> yes thanks you've been a great deal of help
[12:42] <zacarias> yacc: 64 bit (it's an AMD processor)
[12:42] <codfather> A quick question about SPICE support in 14.04 - is it going to be improved over that which was provided with 12.04?
[12:42] <yacc> zacarias: if you have 32bit => some stuff like GPUs need "address space" to memory map. If 64 bit => still the same issue is possible if the driver/hardware cannot handle an aperture beyond the RAM size.
[12:43] <bjorn96> ?
[12:43] <usr13> Guest50092: http://gparted.org/livecd.php  <-- This is what I use.
[12:43] <yacc> zacarias: I meant the OS install => you can install a 32 bit OS fine on 64 bit capable hardware.
[12:43] <Rory> bjorn96: yes
[12:43] <bjorn96> can u tell me how? :D
[12:43] <Guest50092> Im going to use a Live CD OS and use that to resize the partition
[12:43] <Rory> bjorn96: I typed your question into the popular Internet search engine "Google" and found this page http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/how-to-install-ubuntus-new-web-apps-feature
[12:44] <m0rd0> zacarias: If you type 'uname -m' into a terminal window what does it give you?
[12:44] <bjorn96> :D:D
[12:44] <usr13> Guest50092: Ok.  Backup your important data first.
[12:44] <usr13> Guest50092: ... if you have any ...
[12:44] <Guest50092> yes i've stored what I can on my USB
[12:44] <zacarias> yacc: yes, it's a 64 bit installl. How can I solve that?
[12:44] <yacc> zacarias: basically your issue is probably that a part of the 4GB are inaccessible because other stuff is mapped into the address space => with a 64bit OS install your chances are much better that you can map that stuff so that it will not hide RAM.
[12:44] <yacc> zacarias: BIOS options?
[12:44] <karra> hello everyone
[12:45] <fakoff> hi
[12:46] <zacarias> yacc: I don't know. I ignored the BIOS. When I turned the computer on, it asked me for a boot device, I inserted the CD and I installed it
[12:46] <bjorn96> rory, unity web PLAYER
[12:46] <yacc> zacarias: just noticed my shiny laptop has 24GB memory and lost 0.55GB somewhere too => and my BIOS firmware has certainly no options to map that away :(
[12:46] <bjorn96> not app
[12:46] <Rory> bjorn96: Ah my mistake, you mean the game engine thing?
[12:46] <usr13> Guest50092: When you get done, you'll want to create a mount point and a fstab entry for your new partition.
[12:46] <bjorn96> yepp
[12:46] <karra> hello mike
[12:46] <Rory> bjorn96: bjorn96 They only make it for Windows and Mac http://unity3d.com/webplayer/
[12:46] <philinux> codfather;~ you need to ask in #ubuntu+1 or here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=427
[12:47] <zacarias> yacc: Well, ait least that tells me that if I have a 8 GB I will not be limited to the same 33388 MB...
[12:47] <codfather> ok thanks for the tip
[12:47] <zacarias> yacc: 3388 MB, I mean
[12:47] <yacc> Oh, that's almost a certainity.
[12:48] <yacc> And technically speaking in my case I don't overly care.
[12:48] <Guest50092> ok usr13
[12:49] <cy1on> I was looking for Lightread on the Software Center, why isn't it there anymore?
[12:49] <yacc> zacarias: I'm still more pissed that there is no secondary uses for DDR3L SODIMMs :(
[12:50] <gde33> sellem
[12:51] <yacc> zacarias: if I had any use (e.g. a RAMdisc for the desktop or something similar stupid), I'd have 32GB RAM, but I'm way to cheap to throw away the builtin 2x4GB DIMMs :(
[12:51] <Guest50092> what mount point would you suggest for a Media Storage Partition?
[12:51] <Rory> Guest50092: Completely up to you
[12:52] <Guest50092> ok
[12:52] <Rory> Guest50092: I have my external drive mounted under /mnt/external
[12:52] <Guest50092> ok
[12:52] <gde33> is there a wubi channel some place?
[12:52] <Rory> !wubi
[12:52] <bjorn96> rory: doesent look like its possible
[12:52] <Rory> gde33: That would be here, but nobody here will recommend you use it
[12:53] <gde33> I figured out my issue, it is that the ram disk may take a long time to start up but if you interupt it it wont work anymore
[12:53] <karab44> ok solved
[12:53] <philinux> cy1on;~ last version was for 12.10 maybe development stopped https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/lightread/
[12:53] <usr13> Guest50092: I suggest just putting it in /home/
[12:54] <usr13> Guest50092: What is your user name on the system?
[12:55] <Rory> Guest50092: Could just mount it as /home/devil/media (or whatever your username is)
[12:55] <cy1on> philinux: sad, it seems like an awesome rss app
[12:55] <usr13> Guest50092: Something like /home/your-user/Media   or /home/your-user/data   So the command will be mkdir Media
[12:55] <philinux> cy1on;~ there is a ppa http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-lightread-1-2-2-on-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-12-04-linux-mint-15-14-13-and-elementary-os-0-2-luna/
[12:56] <usr13> Guest50092: What did you decide on?  (We'll help you with the fstab entry.)
[12:57] <philinux> cy1on;~ you could always contact the ppa maintainer https://launchpad.net/~cooperjona/+archive/lightread
[12:57] <Guest50092> im currently preparing a Live CD
[12:58] <fakoff> i suggest unetbootin-windows-585 to make an ubuntu disk
[12:59] <Rory> I suggest the disk creation utility which is included with Ubuntu
[12:59] <Rory> It's easier than scouring sourcefourge for a specific unetbootin binary version
[12:59] <fakoff> i have one, and works awesome for me
[12:59] <Rory> Yes, unetbootin works, they all work
[13:00] <fakoff> not all of them tho
[13:00] <Rory> But Startup Disk Creator is already included
[13:00] <fakoff> i had quite a few that failed to install/run it
[13:00] <fakoff> after the GRUB
[13:00] <cy1on> philinux: yes, I've contacted him now
[13:01] <philinux> cy1on;~ maybe he got too busy to build it for 13.10
[13:07] <cy1on> philinux: Aha, didn't know that he had to build for every ubuntu release specifically
[13:07] <fakoff> btw i hear Mint linux is also cool, graphically
[13:07] <cy1on> philinux: perhaps that's why then
[13:08] <fakoff> and i`m guessing it might have the Distro that debian has
[13:08] <fakoff> but idk for sure
[13:08] <fakoff> it does look catchy
[13:08] <fakoff> windowsy like
[13:08] <mike__> fakoff: used it, thought it was okay, didn't seem to have much to it other than look and feel
[13:08] <mike__> responsive
[13:08] <Rory> You can try adding the sources.list line for the latest supported version
[13:08] <fakoff> but i`m kinda fond of ubuntu/debian
[13:09] <Rory> Try to install it, and if you get errors don't continue. If you don't get errors, hooray
[13:09] <fakoff> yeah i kinda felt the same way after i read a few reviews
[13:09] <fakoff> so i just went for the closest thing to debian i know
[13:09] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: Are you there? i managed to solve my freezing raid1 problems. I followed your suggestions to use ubuntu 14.04 which does not freeze instead of 12.04. after partioning
[13:10] <raid1ubuntu> is there already a release-date for 14.04 LTS set?
[13:10] <fakoff> 14,04 is stable release?
[13:11] <OerHeks> fakoff, no, not untill release
[13:11] <llutz> raid1ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[13:12] <OerHeks> 2 months to go
[13:12] <fakoff> so it will be stable when released?
[13:12] <llutz> !14.04 | raid1ubuntu
[13:12] <fakoff> cuz i dont want to build kernels again
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[13:13] <cy1on> Kick?
[13:13] <mike__> rileyvrh: seem to have a stuck j key
[13:14] <philinux> or brain
[13:14] <mike__> or cat
[13:14] <fakoff> fk me.. i need to run and fix my router again.. 3rd time today
[13:14] <philinux> yep lol
[13:14] <fakoff> cheap bastsat
[13:14] <fakoff> bastard
[13:14] <fakoff> later guys
[13:16] <antifa> guys here is my problem, I have a samba share troug a router to my xp pc, and  Iwant to acces the program files folder of xp from my ubuntu laptop, but it tells me that I do not have permision to acces that file
[13:18] <philinux> antifa;~ good help here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[13:18] <Munster> G'Day
[13:18] <RainbowGodDamnDa> Morning.
[13:19] <RainbowGDMNDash> There we go
[13:20] <Munster> heh
[13:21] <RainbowGDMNDash> So I got a problem. My win 8.1 laptop has 13.10 installed on vmware. Just the other day, the networking in the vm decided to crap out and not connect.
[13:22] <RainbowGDMNDash> The solutions that I found online haven't worked. Like go to terminal, enter ifconfig then do sudo dhclient eth0.
[13:23] <RainbowGDMNDash> For some reason the terminal hangs on that last command, and would have to kill the terminal.
[13:23] <RainbowGDMNDash> I also tried resetting the vm network adapters from bridged to NAT and vice versa
[13:23] <usr13> How's it going with GUest50092?  (I've been offline for about 10 minutes.)
[13:24] <OerHeks> RainbowGDMNDash, sounds like an VM issue or win8
[13:24] <jcadduono> Hi my USB sound device (DacPort LX) is showing up as USB root hub 1.1 in USB 2.0 slots and root hub 2.0 in USB 3.0 slots and does that ever not make sense
[13:24] <geirha> RainbowGDMNDash: sounds like the virtual dhcp server is virtually broken
[13:24] <Dice-Man> hello people, i have installed the flashplugin-installer through sudo apt-get install but it seems that it doesn't have any effect on firefox even if i go on youtube i a message telling me to update my flash version
[13:24] <RainbowGDMNDash> I think it might be 8.1 itself because it was working before I updated it.
[13:24] <Dice-Man> *i have a message
[13:25] <usr13> Dice-Man: Restart firefox
[13:25] <RainbowGDMNDash> I've thought the virtual hdd of that ubuntu installed was corrupted, so I installed it on a new vm through vmware but no dice.
[13:25] <Guest50092> im backing up my important files
[13:26] <raid1ubuntu> ubottu: thx
[13:26] <raid1ubuntu> llutz: thx
[13:26] <Guest50092> and creating a bit more space for that partition
[13:26] <Guest50092> so I dont have to do any resizing later on
[13:26] <Dice-Man> usr13: it doesn't work :(
[13:27] <usr13> Dice-Man: What happens when you try?
[13:27] <raid1ubuntu> i will add "Do a "sudo do-release upgrade" after 17.4.2014 in my welcome message ;)
[13:28] <usr13> Dice-Man: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[13:28] <Squiggz> Tj-: it user Chisholm
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: please use http://pastie.org to host the text (or similar)
[13:28] <Squiggz> u avalible to help me with the 3.0 issue?
[13:29] <lebafar> usr13, Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[13:29] <lebafar> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[13:29] <lebafar> is only available from another source
[13:29] <usr13> Guest50092: Very good.  Let us know what you end up with.
[13:29] <jcadduono> Also my dmesg is getting is impossible to read because kernel saying delay estimated actual
[13:30] <Guest50092> I will and thanks logging off
[13:30] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip: ok
[13:30] <Guest50092> exit
[13:30] <usr13> lebafar: Oh yea, I think you have to enable an adobe source
[13:31] <usr13> lebafar: ... but I thought that's what installing flashplugin-installer did....
[13:32] <RainbowGDDMNDash> :(
[13:32] <lebafar> usr13, what do you mean?
[13:32] <RainbowGDDMNDash> I'm sure it's win 8.1
[13:33] <usr13> lebafar: Oh, but I'm wrong.   It causes the Adobe Flash Player plugin to be downloaded from "Canonical partner archive" (I don't know if that is the same or  ... maybe someone else can tell us)
[13:33] <RainbowGDDMNDash> does 8.1 have a "run in" compatiblity option like 7?
[13:33] <usr13> lebafar: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/flashplugin-installer
[13:33] <lebafar> usr13, yes. oh ok..
[13:34] <llutz> RainbowGDDMNDash: you already read the topic of this channel?
[13:34] <usr13> lebafar: Yea, I guess that's the same thing...
[13:35] <usr13> RainbowGDDMNDash:  /topic
[13:35] <lebafar> usr13, but how to install it?
[13:35] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/8752044
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> RainbowGDDMNDash: windows in supported in ##windows   not here
[13:35] <usr13> lebafar: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: could remove the package then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin package
[13:36] <Squiggz> hey can anyone help for some reason all my usb 2.0 ports work but not my 3.0 ports
[13:36] <lebafar> usr13, when I try it, that throws me an message.
[13:36] <usr13> lebafar: So, just go to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ Download and install it from there.
[13:37] <lebafar> usr13, from there is much more complicated.
[13:37] <lebafar> it is
[13:37] <usr13> How so?
[13:37] <usr13> lebafar: you just chose "APT for Ubuntu 10.04+"
[13:37] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip: the partner repo ?
[13:38] <lebafar> usr13, there is a few different file download possibilities and after downloading it there are a few routines we had to follow in order to install it
[13:38] <usr13> lebafar: DOes it just download the file?
[13:39] <balder> what is the best way to reload /etc/network/interfaces as /etc/init.d/networking is depricated?
[13:39] <raid1ubuntu> ubuntu-server14.04-setup  failed to install GRUB on /dev/md126 .. -> shit is it possible to install grub onto a raid1 ?
[13:39] <OerHeks> !14.04 | raid1ubuntu
[13:40] <raid1ubuntu> OerHeks: ?
[13:40] <llutz> balder: sudo ifdown <iface> && sudo ifup <iface>
[13:40] <OerHeks> balder, sudo service networking restart
[13:40] <llutz> ^ is deprecated
[13:40] <lebafar> usr13, not really. I may have something wrong here.
[13:41] <usr13> lebafar: Ok, well you can just do it through the package manager.
[13:42] <llutz> balder: you might use networking stop, then start instead of restart too
[13:42] <balder> llutz: trying to do this over and ssh connection.  when i stop or down the interface i loose connection so the ifup never runs (ithink just testing)
[13:43] <lebafar> usr13, after I choose the APT for ubuntu 10.04+ it opens a External Protocol Request window and if I click Launch Application it opens Ubuntu Software Center with the following message : Not found : There isn’t a software package called “adobe-flashplugin” in your current software sources
[13:43] <balder> ignore me ifdown  && ifup works over ssh.  thanks
[13:43] <lebafar> usr13, package manager has a Flash plugin but it says it is for firefox mozilla and I use also chromium here.
[13:44] <philinux> balder;~  info here http://askubuntu.com/questions/58404/how-to-start-and-stop-a-service
[13:44] <usr13> lebafar: So install adobe-flashplugin
[13:45] <usr13> it's a circular motion ;0
[13:45] <llutz> balder: in most cases, ssh wouldn't even "see" the network outage, so it should work in most cases without losing the connection. but i wouldn't bet on it, though
[13:46] <lebafar> usr13, got the message : no item match "adobe-flashplugin"
[13:46] <balder> llutz: yes it looks like it works, down't need to be bullet proof so it should be fine.  i just assumed.... and there was my problem ;)
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: yes, the partner repo
[13:48] <usr13> lebafar: I dono  Maybe someone else can help you.  Mine works, that's all I know.  (But I just use firefox... but... it works...)
[13:48] <jcadduono> is it safe to install the trusty kernels from kernel.ubuntu.com onto saucy? the current 3.11 kernel is very buggy for me
[13:48] <OerHeks> lebafar, flashplugin-installer is for firefox and chromium too
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> jcadduono: yes but they will not be supported here. They will install but may cause issues
[13:49] <jcadduono> ActionParsnip: couldn't be worse than what I've got now :(
[13:49] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip: it works ! thank you
[13:50] <Munster> lebafar, look for flashplugin-installer
[13:50] <lebafar> OerHeks, ok, got it. Thank you.
[13:51] <lebafar> Munster, I got it. thank you.
[13:51] <lebafar> usr13, thank you!
[13:51] <Munster> lebafar, yeah , a bit slow :)
[13:52] <lebafar> Munster, what do you mean?
[13:52] <Munster> i was a bit slow
[13:52] <lebafar> Munster, just fine. ;)
[13:54] <Valduare> hi all - I have a macbook pro 7.1 and the open source graphics drivers crash after few seconds, and proprietary drivers boot to black screen... any ideas?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: cool huh
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: if you switch to Chrome, it comes with Flash by default so no need for extra packages
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: its a single line output so no need to pastebin
[13:58] <Valduare> I'm not booted up to ubuntu atm
[13:58] <Valduare> I think next I'm going to try nomodeset
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: does it use that switching GPU garbage?
[13:59] <Valduare> i have a macbook pro 7.1 with a NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256 MB
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: what CPU model does it have?
[13:59] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[14:00] <Valduare> 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
[14:01] <Valduare> brb
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: makes things a bit nicer
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: install the nvidia-currnt package then run:  sudo nvidia-xconfg
[14:02] <whitehat> hello group.I'm having problems with mount priority on ubuntu 13.10.  some drives are mounted out of order as listed in fstab.  all drives are referenced with UUIDs in fstab.  ideas?
[14:03] <Valduare> On phone now so I can work on laptop
[14:03] <gptandefi> when i reboot my laptop, it shows efdisk read error,and then show me the grub. what's the error.
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: install the nvidia-currnt package then run:  sudo nvidia-xconfg
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: then reboot
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: or did you try the nvidia-xconfig command already?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> gptandefi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2188347
[14:16] <^Mike> My bluetooth hardware is detected and powered up, but the bluetooth control panel says it is powered off. Flicking the switch to "on" doesn't do anything. What do? http://askubuntu.com/questions/423668/cant-control-bluetooth-in-saucy
[14:19] <lebafar> I am sharing a folder through my network and I can access it as guest (couldn't figure how to access with an account) and it arrives as Owner: nobody with a lock. How do I fix it to allow me to open this file?
[14:19] <gptandefi> this page I have read before, but it didn't help me.
[14:20] <negev> hi, i just got an xps-13 with ubuntu.  is it possible to encrypt the root volume without nuking it first?
[14:21] <thewolf> goodmorning, sorry for my english... it's possible whit this program to create chat point to point whit an specific other user (private)
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> lebafar: chown the file to your user
[14:21] <lebafar> ActionParsnip, there is no way to make it automatically?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> lebafar: what OS is the server and what OS is the client?
[14:22] <OerHeks> negev no, you need to select encrypted disk while installing, no fix aftewrwards AFAIK
[14:22] <lebafar> ActionParsnip, server is Ubuntu 13 and client is Mac/Win mostly.
[14:22] <BlackDex> hello there, "Ubuntu One" seems to be not working anymore on my desktop
[14:23] <BlackDex> 13.10
[14:23] <BlackDex> it doesn't connect
[14:23] <TJ-> thewolf: By default Internet *relay* chat relays everyone's conversations (in channels or person-to-person) via the server(s). There is an extension called Direct Client Connection (DCC) which provides direct person-to-person connections, but it requires friendly firewalls at both ends where port/network address translation is in use.
[14:23] <BlackDex> i can login on the website
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> lebafar: if you run:   sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    you can set a password for Samba for your user, then authenticate as that when you connect
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> lebafar: by 'Ubuntu 13' I'm guessing you mean 13.10. 'Ubuntu 13' isn't a thing
[14:25] <lebafar> ActionParsnip, yes, 13.10.
[14:25] <negev> OerHeks: ok thanks
[14:28] <lebafar> ActionParsnip, still not accessing with a user other then guest.
[14:29] <lebafar> ActionParsnip, is there a way to verify if this user/pass is valid?
[14:35] <Smit-Tay> .
[14:35] <Smit-Tay> Is there a reason my Ubuntu server is running rhnsd -
[14:35] <Smit-Tay> ?
[14:36] <Smit-Tay> Is it doing anything sensible ?  How does it sync against a totally different packaging system, unless I configure it to do so ?
[14:37] <llutz> Smit-Tay: if you have to ask that and really don't know why it runs at all, remove it
[14:37] <Smit-Tay> It seems it was installed by default when I build the server, but I've only just noticed it
[14:37] <Smit-Tay> Why would it be included in a default Ubuntu install
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> Smit-Tay: it's not included in a default ubuntu install.
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> Smit-Tay: did you install apt-transport-spacewalk?
[14:41] <Xuisce> hi all
[14:44] <Smit-Tay> I didn't install it, and I built the machine. Actually four separate machines. They alll end up running it.  I have only installed three non-standard Ubuntu server packages.  jenkins-slave - which doesn't include it, and openjdk-7-jre-headless, and  build-essentials.  None of those include it.
[14:45] <OerHeks> Smit-Tay, odd, red hat update agent is not standard in ubuntu server
[14:45] <Smit-Tay> Exactly
[14:45] <Smit-Tay> I'm wondering how it got there
[14:45] <OerHeks> Smit-Tay, we do too, so tell us what you did?
[14:46] <Smit-Tay> Already did
[14:46] <kogo> Hi i am trying to set up a dhcp3 server but i keep getting this " Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid: Permission denied. ^C root@ubuntu:~# /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start   * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3                                                   * check syslog for diagnostics
[14:46] <Smit-Tay> Built a x86_64 12.04 LTS server from the iso image at Ubuntu.com.  Install those three packages
[14:46] <Smit-Tay> that's it
[14:47] <kogo> please help !!
[14:47] <Smit-Tay> start it with sudo
 me ??
[14:47] <Smit-Tay> yes, you
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> Smit-Tay: rhnsd isn't even in the 12.04 repo so something really fishy going on with what you're telling us
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> Smit-Tay: can you again tell us exactly what you did, and what iso you used
[14:49] <mijn> hi
[14:50] <mijn> is it possible to use two different gpus (AMD/NVIDIA) at the same time? using R600g + nvidia drivers?
[14:50] <kogo>  <Smit-Tay> i did this    sudo  dhcpd3 -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid wlan1  but still the same problem ????
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> mijn: it should be. may have trouble configuring xorg for it tho
[14:51] <kogo> ???
[14:51] <sgo11> hi, if I found more than one PPA which has the package that I want to install in launchpad.net, which one should I choose? Are there something in launchpad like the "Star" in github? thanks.
[14:52] <mijn> hitsujiTMO: couldn't i simply run two xorgs then in that case?
[14:52] <kogo> help i m still getting this error  Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid: Permission denied. ^C root@ubuntu:~# /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start   * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3                                                   * check syslog for diagnostics
[14:53] <TJ-> kogo: prefix the command with "sudo "
[14:53] <kogo> help please ???
[14:53] <mijn> TJ-: he is already root
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> mijn: running 2 xorgs is silly. its just that both gpus will require an xorg.conf and generate them. but they should preserve each others options
[14:53] <TJ-> mijn: But is 'root' uid == 0 ?
 Do you mean this command  sudo  dhcpd3 -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server  ???
[14:54] <mijn> TJ-: i guess he used 'sudo -i' or 'su -s'
[14:55] <kogo>  <mijn> TJ- yes that's right
[14:55] <TJ-> kogo: No, the permission-denied is usually when  the user account you use to execute script doesn't have the 'root' privileges (uid==0) necessary
  so what should i  do ???
[14:56] <TJ-> mijn: I wasn't too sure the sophistication of the user; as a security precaution on all my systems 'root' isn't uid==0, it is a non-privileged account
[14:56] <mijn> TJ-: oh, interesting
[14:56] <mijn> TJ-: so then how do you root? with sudo?
[14:58] <TJ-> mijn: No, the uid==0 account simply has a random name
[14:58] <TJ-> mijn: sudo still works as you'd expect
[14:58] <mijn> hitsujiTMO: any references where i could read on that?
[14:59] <Smit-Tay> Aha.....My interfering network dude decided I needed it.   What a plonker.
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> mijn: afraid not. xorg config is very much allover the place
[14:59] <Smit-Tay> Should have guessed, this is the second time he has installed RedHat based software on my machines.
[15:00] <Smit-Tay> I'll have to set up an alert to let me know when he does something
[15:00] <OerHeks> Smit-Tay, glad you found out
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> Smit-Tay: i would guess he's using it for spacewalk
[15:00] <Smit-Tay> Yes
[15:00] <Smit-Tay> What is that
[15:00] <Squiggz> hey real quick can anyone help me with connecting a wifi printer with ubuntu
[15:01] <Smit-Tay> ANd why would he think I should be running it ?
[15:01] <hitsujiTMO> Smit-Tay: systems management software
[15:01] <Tokallo> hi every body
[15:01] <Tokallo> i have problem with tor in terminal
[15:02] <Tokallo> when i try curl icanhazip.com
[15:02] <OerHeks> Squiggz, quick answer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[15:02] <Tokallo> i get this error:<html> <head> <title>Tor is not an HTTP Proxy</title> </head> <body> <h1>Tor is not an HTTP Proxy</h1> <p> It appears you have configured your web browser to use Tor as an HTTP proxy. This is not correct: Tor is a SOCKS proxy, not an HTTP proxy. Please configure your client accordingly. </p> <p> See <a href="https://www.torproject.org/documentation.html">https://www.torproject.org/documentation.html</a> for more inform
[15:02] <Squiggz> yea im there no luck but i was able t type in the host name now its asking me to pick the queue connection
[15:02] <Tokallo> i even unset http_proxy and https_proxy and ftp_proxy
[15:02] <Tokallo> but wont work
[15:03] <Tokallo> anybody faced same problem?
[15:03] <Squiggz> and there is about 20 to pick from
[15:03] <TJ-> Squiggz: Wifi/Wired - just find the network printer drivers that match the device and configure them through the local CUPS admin http://localhost:631/
[15:03] <Smit-Tay> Just what I need, some non-developer network/server administrator deciding what versions of stuff I need on my build server.  Just to guarantee that I never know what I am building.
[15:04] <Tokallo> you can look at terminal export :http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965829/
[15:05] <Smit-Tay> Thanks for the help <hitsujiTMO> , <OerHeks> and others
[15:05] <Tokallo> hear me????
[15:05] <Tokallo> :)))
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> !patience | Tokallo
[15:08] <Squiggz> nice got it thanks
[15:08] <Tokallo> any body enabled TOR in TERMINAL ??
[15:09] <Squiggz> tj-: you ready for the usb 3.0 round about??
[15:09] <TJ-> Squiggz: Sure; it's a one-liner change in theory
[15:09] <Squiggz> easy enough (i think) haha
[15:10] <Squiggz> throw it at me
[15:10] <GZA-Genius> Tokallo, yea what you need?
[15:10] <Scarunkk> Hello - I've got a issue trying to forward packet from eth1 (internal network) to eth0 (external network) - I have enable packet forwarding (/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward), and add  two iptables cmds (iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[15:10] <Scarunkk> iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -j ACCEPT) -- it's didn't work. packet stay on eth1 (I see it with wireshark).  someone can help me ?
[15:11] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965872/
[15:12] <TJ-> Squiggz: " sudo sed -i  's/\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)\("\)/\1 iommu=soft\2/' /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub"
[15:12] <GZA-Genius> Tokallo, yea what you need?
[15:12] <Squiggz> ok thanks ill put it in the terminal now
[15:13] <TJ-> Squiggz: Once you've done that, restart the PC and *enter BIOS* and *DISABLE* the IOMMU, then boot the PC and everything should be working
[15:13] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: Thanks. But I have already try this, and it's change nothing
[15:13] <Squiggz> ill let you know in a few minutes
[15:13] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: are you using ufw?
[15:13] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: can I /query you ?
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: keep everything to this chat please
[15:14] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: I have disabled UFW with ufw diseable
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: and then run that?
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: on the client end of eth1 what are you using as the default gateway?
[15:16] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: on the client end of eth1, I've put eth1 ip address as gateway
[15:17] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: I have a tablet connected to my wifi AP, connected to eth1
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: ok sounds about right. and what about dns then?
[15:17] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: on my wifi AP, I have put eht1 address for the gateway
[15:18] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: I don't care about dns, I try to ping 8.8.8.8 from the tablet (who is connected to the wifi ap, who can ping eth1 but not eth0)
[15:19] <Squiggz> TJ-: it work!!!
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: ahh ok. can you pastebin the output of: ifconfig && arp && ip route
[15:19] <Squiggz> thanks man I owe ya you pretty much got this computer up and running !!
[15:20] <Tokallo> sorry i was disconnected
[15:20] <Tokallo> i had  problem with tor
[15:20] <Tokallo> one of friend told me has experience on tor
[15:20] <Tokallo> i dont remember name , please tell me again
[15:21] <TJ-> Squiggz: You doubted me? Oh Ye of Little Faith! :D
[15:22] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965909/
[15:22] <onizu> can someone help me install jolicloud-desktop-environment please? i added the ppa:jolicloud-team/ppa and updated apt-get . But when I tried to apt-get install jolicloud-desktop-environment, i got an error that package could not be found
[15:22] <Squiggz> hahaha heck no not after our 4 hrs of working before on the other issue!!
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: can you alswo pastebin the output of: sudo iptables --list
[15:22] <Tokallo> any body experince on config tor in terminal ?
[15:22] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965913/
[15:23] <ibDoug> Simple question, does anyone have a working Twitter app?
[15:23] <Squiggz> TJ-: Thanks again take it easy all
[15:24] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965922/ (thanks)
[15:24] <mad_> Türk olan var mı ?
[15:24] <d4rkt1m3s> hello, #ubuntu. I'm here for advice on buying a laptop. my last one conked out and the warranty service said that they won't repair it, but they'll send me a cheque for the purchase price of the laptop (which was substantial) I'm looking into a new System76 Laptop, specifically the Kudu Professional. has anyone here owned one?
[15:25] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: I have follow a ton of documentation of ubuntu forums and differents iptables commands, maybe I have broke something
[15:25] <daguz> I'm on server 1304 with static IP address:  interfaces has "dns-nameservers 192.168.0.1"   but no matter what I restart (including full reboot) I cannot resolve.  There is no nameserver listted in /etc/resolv.conf.   What next?
[15:25] <mad_> Heyooo kimse yok mu tanıdık bilindik kendine has insanımız, insanlarımız
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: i doubt it iptables flush ever boot
[15:26] <ActionPa1snip> d4rkt1m3s: check amazon for reviews of people buying devices, check which work well etc
[15:26] <cfhowlett> d4rkt1m3s, the dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is a nice option.
[15:27] <cfhowlett> !tr|mad_,
[15:27] <cfhowlett> !tk
[15:27] <sadbox> d4rkt1m3s: I've owned a system76 laptop before
[15:27] <d4rkt1m3s> sadbox: how was it?
[15:27] <ActionPa1snip> my Dell Latitude D420 works 100% out of the box :)
[15:27] <Scarunkk> any idea hitsujiTMO ?
[15:27] <sadbox> It was -alright-
[15:27] <Tor_> hi Friends
[15:27] <mad_> Teşekkürler ^^
[15:28] <d4rkt1m3s> sadbox: do you have any recommendations?
[15:28] <sadbox> d4rkt1m3s: They're rebranded clevo laptops, so the the build quality is average at best
[15:28] <Tor_> anybody configured TOR in TERMINAL
[15:28] <d4rkt1m3s> oh.
[15:28] <sadbox> d4rkt1m3s: I personally like the *30 generation and older of thinkpads
[15:28] <TJ-> daguz: Can you pastebin "/etc/network/interfaces" ?
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: you do seem to have an excessive Chain FORWARD list of rules, so maybe some interference here. try flushing the iptables rules again and retry: sudo iptables --flush            then save this as a script and run it with sudo http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965872/
[15:29] <Tor_> who sat Tor in terminal for curl or apt-get ???
[15:30] <daguz> /etc/network/interfaces:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965951/
[15:30] <mad_> Türkçe kanal önerisi olabilecek olan var mı ?
[15:31] <Tor_> i try curl icanhazip.com but see this:paste.ubuntu.com/6965829/
[15:31] <n8w> guys do u know how to solve: The process for the mtp protocol died unexpectedly after connectin android device?
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> !tr | Mad_
[15:31] <TJ-> daguz: The tabbing in front of "iface eth0 inet static" might be an issue; that stanza typically starts at column 0. It is possible that is confusing the scripts.
[15:32] <Tor_> tor experinced users call me
[15:32] <Tor_> hellooo
[15:32] <cfhowlett> !tor
[15:32] <cfhowlett> !patience|Tor_,
[15:33] <cfhowlett> Tor_,  you might want to consult the actual tor documentation given above
[15:33] <daguz> TJ-: do the dns entries get tabbed or column 0 with the iface?
[15:33] <TJ-> Tor_: Use "torify"
[15:33] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: didn't work. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965987/
[15:34] <TJ-> daguz: Usually the 'body' of the iface is tabbed in, but the first line is at column 0. Not sure that is it, but its the only thing obviously different
[15:34] <TJ-> Tor_: however, you'll still need to use "tor-resolve" manually
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: I would expect the issue is with the wifi AP. is there a web interface on it that can use ping?
[15:35] <Tor_> my problem is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965829/
[15:35] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: Yes, i'm login the wifi interface
[15:35] <Tor_> i dont know why proxy forwarding happens here>?
[15:35] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: and I can ping it from the tablet
[15:36] <TJ-> Tor_: e.g: "torify wget -qO- https://$(tor-resolve check.torproject.org)/ "
[15:36] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: and I can ofcourse ping it from ubuntu
[15:36] <genii> TJ-: The up flush-mail may need to go after gateway
[15:36] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: to be clear. are you able to ping from the wifi AP itself? not ping from the tablet
[15:36] <TJ-> genii: Order shouldn't be significant
[15:38] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: Oh sorry, I miss read. No I can't ping FROM the ap wifi
[15:39] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO:  I just reboot the AP-wifi and the tablet, maybe it'll work better
[15:39] <Tor_> TJ-: my problem is that i try torify i see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966032/
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: damn. ok, I would suspect some routing issue with the AP. it's difficult to get any accurate test here as you have an extra hop in between your test devices, so there's no way to be ablsolutely sure where the breakdown is. you'd need to get another device that you can test from directly onto your eth1
[15:41] <krew> hello
[15:41] <krew> i have Broadcom wireless
[15:41] <krew> but i don't show in iwconfig
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> !broadcom | krew
[15:41] <cfhowlett> krew, greetings
[15:42] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: Ok, I can try to remove the ap-wifi and replace with a standard usb->eternet cable (I didn't believed that is the issue)
[15:43] <d4rkt1m3s> sadbox: can I get it with Linux pre-installed or an assurance that my warranty will not be void if I install linux?
[15:44] <Tor_> anybody solve this problem??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965829/
[15:44] <sadbox> d4rkt1m3s: Outside of system76 (and similar) probably not in the US
[15:44] <d4rkt1m3s> I'm looking for a canadian retailer actually.
[15:45] <d4rkt1m3s> Tor_: paste it to paste.opensuse.org so I can have a look at it.
[15:45] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: did you follow the link given to you ? https://www.torproject.org/documentation.html">https://www.torproject.org/documentation.html
[15:46] <sadbox> d4rkt1m3s: Like someone else said earlier, check out the dell developer edition
[15:46] <Tor_> http://paste.opensuse.org/2238688
[15:46] <d4rkt1m3s> too much money.
[15:46] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: see also http://z-computer-z.blogspot.com/2010/01/setting-socks-proxy-on-firefox.html or similar
[15:47] <bodhi_zazen> d4rkt1m3s: http://laclinux.com/en/Start
[15:47] <whitehat> hello. I'm having a slew of mount problems with an addon 4port sata card. drives attached to that card get mounted first over motherboard sata ports. ideas on how to get mobo ports recognized first?
[15:47] <d4rkt1m3s> Tor_: https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en
[15:47] <d4rkt1m3s> try that.
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> d4rkt1m3s: image the drive when you get it. then install linux. if you need to get something fixed on warranty then just image back onto the hdd
[15:48] <Tor_> i need enable tor in terminal
[15:48] <philinux> d4rkt1m3s;~ or just dual boot
[15:48] <Dallic> Tor_ what are you poiting at the tor process?
[15:49] <Tor_> for example when i type curl icanhazip.com i want to see proxi ip not my real ip but i see my real ip
[15:49] <Dallic> It looks like what you are doing is setting you browser to tor as a HTTP proxy
[15:49] <Dallic> Ah
[15:49] <Dallic> ..
[15:49] <sadbox> d4rkt1m3s: lenovo does certify that some of their hardware works with linux: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-48NT8D#2
[15:49] <Dallic> im not a curl guy... but how i bet the curl proxy options are sing HTTP proxy
[15:50] <Dallic> im not a big tor user but i have used proxychains to tunnle SOCKS in ssh back in college....
[15:50] <Dallic> I know thats not much help but it was a neet program. once installed you can just "proxychains curl <site>"
[15:53] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: Ok, so I'm connected with a simple eterneth cable (and usb-> Ethernet on both side) - I can ping the table, but the tablet can ping eth1, but not eth0, like before.
[15:54] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: you are jumping from one problem to another so it is difficult to follow you or help you. The link you gave , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965829/, is in regards to configuring your web browser and I gave you 2 links on how to resolve that
[15:54] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: now you are asking about curl, lol
[15:55] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: curl --socks5-hostname localhost:9050 ....
[15:56] <Tor_> it works with paramthere mentioned but how solve this http://paste.opensuse.org/2238688
[15:56] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: somewhere along the way you were asking how to start TOR
[15:57] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: I gave you 2 links on that problem already
[15:57] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: http://z-computer-z.blogspot.com/2010/01/setting-socks-proxy-on-firefox.html
[16:00] <hyacinthe> hello!
[16:00] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: with this configuration (direct eternet cable) that prove that this is ubunutu the problem, have you got any idea ?
[16:00] <msvd-dz> grea
[16:00] <msvd-dz> arger
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: nothing off the top of my head. i'll ping you as soon as I think of anything. hopefully someone can chime in with other ideas
[16:02] <Tor_> thanks friend
[16:04] <TJ-> Scarunkk: What does the routing table look like on the NATing host ("ip route ls") ?
[16:04] <TJ-> Scarunkk: OK, I found it in your pastebins
[16:05] <Scarunkk> TJ-:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966151/
[16:05] <Scarunkk> TJ-:  I've change some stuff, because if the new configuration (direct ethernet cable instead of AP-wifi)
[16:13] <Scarunkk> TJ-, hitsujiTMO: if that can help, here some info about the network of the tablet http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966179/
[16:14] <MadScientist> Aramızda Türk olan var mı ???
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> !tr | MadScientist
[16:14] <TJ-> Scarunkk: If you've changed things, can you repost the configuration ("ifconfig -a && ip route ls && sudo iptables -vnL && sudo iptables -t nat -vnL") ?
[16:16] <Scarunkk> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966193/
[16:16] <Scarunkk> TJ-: I have try to add one route, and change the ip of eth1 (for connecting to the device)
[16:19] <Scarunkk> TJ-: That is incredible, I really don't figure out what's happening
[16:19] <NeO__o> hi
[16:20] <NeO__o> I would like to create a complete backup of my pc (ubuntu 12.04) with all programms/file, that I can restore conveniently at any point
[16:20] <NeO__o> What is the best way/ tool?
[16:21] <cfhowlett> !clone|NeO__o,
[16:21] <Scarunkk> NeO or pyback
[16:21] <NeO__o> Actually I would like to store the backup on an external USB-hardrive
[16:22] <genii> NeO__o: You could also just boot to livecd/usb and dd it over
[16:22] <Scarunkk> NeO__o: pyback can do it
[16:22] <Scarunkk> TJ-: something looks wrong ?
[16:23] <TJ-> Scarunkk: I don't see a problem. If you've enabled masquerading then you can't ping the outgoing interface's IP address because that would require a loopback. If you ping the gateway, that should work (10.12.0.1), and you can ping the NATing host on its private IP.
[16:24] <NeO__o> Scarunkk: So you would then backup the / folder
[16:24] <NeO__o> ?
[16:24] <cfhowlett> !backup
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: can you also confirm 1 thing: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[16:25] <Scarunkk> TJ-: I can't ping 10.12.0.1
[16:25] <vyccus> va
[16:25] <TJ-> Scarunkk: really? OK, that is a problem :)
[16:26] <NeO__o> ubottu: I already had a look at the links, thx. I am looking for the most convenient way to backup and restore my complete system in a Windows-Style fashion. What would be the best programm?
[16:26] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: yes (I have a watch -n1 on it.. ahah)
[16:26] <Scarunkk> TJ-: Oh, so what is going on ?
[16:26] <NeO__o> haha
[16:27] <hyacinthe> how to auto connect a modem zte on ubuntu 13.10? thanks
[16:29] <Scarunkk> TJ-: I have "network is unrechable" - and no paquet on eth1 (no arp packet), when trying to ping 10.12.0.1
[16:32] <whoever> Scarunkk: check your netmask
[16:32] <Scarunkk> whoever: I don't understand ?
[16:33] <TJ-> Scarunkk: Is a default route defined on the client?
[16:34] <Tor_> anybody know any free test http proxy for ubuntu?????
[16:34] <TJ-> Scarunkk: "sudo ip route add default via 192.168.42.2 dev eth0"
[16:35] <pietro10> Hi. Trying to cross-compile a 32-bit gtk program on 64-bit Ubuntu. I installed gcc/g++-multilib, both 32-bit and 64-bit libgtk-3-0 packages, and libgtk-3-dev, and passed -m32 to CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS, and LDFLAGS, however linking still can't find any of the GTK+ libraries. I do not get any messages about incompatible library versions, only that it could not find any of the GTK+ libraries. What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
[16:36] <TJ-> pietro10: You'd need to pastebin the Makefile
[16:36] <Scarunkk> TJ-: Hum. maybe it's related but when I put my eth1 to 192.168.42.2 (sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.42.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up) sometime the ip address of eth1 disappear
[16:36] <Tor_> is there any free http proxy for ubuntu?
[16:36] <Scarunkk> TJ-: Your ip route add default, do you want me to add it on the ubuntu (host) or the device ?
[16:36] <TJ-> Scarunkk: Do you have Network Manager usually managing the interfaces on there?
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> tor_ https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html
[16:37] <TJ-> Scarunkk: On the client device, if it doesn't already have a default route with the same specification. If it does already have a default route, show us what it is don't delete it
[16:37] <pietro10> TJ-: it's not make-based
[16:37] <pietro10> I can paste the command lines though, hold on
[16:38] <pietro10> it's a bunch of autogenerated C files being linked together
[16:39] <acu> hello everyone, I have a silly question - if I have a remote computer with /home/ and multiple users /home/mary  /home/jonny etc - if I ssh as marry and I sudo, I can do whatever in /home/jonny ? or I need to be real root to do anything in jonny's folder
[16:39] <Scarunkk> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966311/
[16:40] <sara> hello
[16:40] <Scarunkk> omg
[16:40] <Scarunkk> TJ !
[16:40] <Tor_> does squid support http proxy and is it possible access blocked url in terminak
[16:40] <Scarunkk> That's work. I don't know if it's 'normal' (I have add ' ip route add default via 192.168.42.2 dev eth0' to the device)
[16:42] <TJ-> Scarunkk: Well yes, it is required. Otherwise the device has no route to reach the 10.12.0.0/15 network.
[16:42] <Kudu91> hello all.
[16:42] <TJ-> Scarunkk: That's the whole point of default routes - to send traffic that doesn't belong on the local sub-net to a system that can do something with it
[16:42] <pietro10> TJ-: http://pastie.org/8752534
[16:43] <Kudu91> thoughts on system76 computers?
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Kudu91 ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:43] <Scarunkk> TJ-: Ok, thanks you so munch. I can do what I want know, based on your help
[16:43] <Kudu91> thank you
[16:44] <jonbryan> never heard of system76
[16:44] <Scarunkk> Do you know a tools to know which software or component remove my ip address ? (of eth1)
[16:45] <TJ-> pietro10: You're missing "-L" options
[16:45] <pietro10> shouldn't pkg-config --libs drop those in?
[16:45] <Tor_> is squid proxy free to usse?
[16:46] <TJ-> pietro10: No, gcc expects -Ldir to tell it where to look for the -llibs
[16:46] <OerHeks> Tor_, sure, it is free to install yourself, you are given an url for the manual
[16:47] <Scarunkk> Tor_: yes, you just have to change some line in the configuration file to make it's working
[16:47] <dhrosa> hello, I restarted my computer and suddenly all of my font sizes are HUGE, and overflowing out of menus, and some icons have also become massive
[16:47] <Tor_> scarunkk: can you please help me
[16:47] <dhrosa> where are all the places where font-size and the like are configured gnome-tweak-tool is at its defaults and I don't have font-size increases in my universal access, and my DPI is set to default (96x96)
[16:48] <Voyager82> Hello, I'm trying to convert some MP4 videos to AVI, in order to read it with my DVD player. I've noticed that using the ffmpg command, the quality of the video is deteriorated. Can you suggest me anything?
[16:48] <Scarunkk> Tor_: if I'm able to, yes
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: mp4 and avi are just containers. what are the actual arguments you are giving ffmpeg?
[16:49] <cfhowlett> Voyager82, eh?  shouldn't happen if the only thing changed is the transcode ...
[16:49] <Voyager82> Let me check.
[16:49] <dhrosa> alterntive question, is rm -rf ~/.config safe? Assuming i'm okay with re-configuring all my programs
[16:49] <cfhowlett> Voyager82, ffmpeg -i input.mp4 output.avi ?
[16:50] <Voyager82> ffmpeg -i filename.mp4 -vcodec mpeg4 -acodec ac3 -ar 48000 -ab 192k output.avi This is the command that I'm using.
[16:50] <Voyager82> I've found it in a forum online.
[16:50] <cfhowlett> Voyager82, test the simpler command I posted above.
[16:50] <Voyager82> cfhowlett, let me check.
[16:51] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: how big is the .mp4?
[16:51] <Voyager82> cfhowlett, what does the "-i" option stand for?
[16:51] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO, very big. It's a movie.
[16:51] <cfhowlett> Voyager82, -i = input filename follows
[16:51] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: "very big" is a relative term. whats the actual size?
[16:52] <Voyager82> Let me check.
[16:52] <Voyager82> It's 250 MB large.
[16:52] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO.
[16:52] <Tor_> Scarunkk: when squid installed can i curl URL with another ip????????
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: ok. that, in video terms, is relatively small :)     should be ok for straight to avi then at least
[16:54] <llutz> Voyager82: "movie" with 250MB, what quality do you expect?
[16:54] <Voyager82> I'm having problems writing, since my CPU is now asborbing all the resources to convert the file. I'll let you know. :)
[16:54] <dhrosa> strange, I've deleted my ~/.config and my font-sizes are still hueg
[16:54] <Voyager82> llutz, at least as good as the original one. :)
[16:55] <Tor_> does Squid provide access to filtered sites from bash ??????
[16:55] <pietro10> TJ-: ok, -L/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ is now on the command line before the -lgtk-3 etc., but I'm still getting th elinker complaint, even though the files are there
[16:55] <ikonia> Tor_: from bash ? bash is a shell
[16:55] <cfhowlett> Voyager82, assume garbage in/garbage out.  transcoding probably won't improve the final output
[16:55] <Tor_> yes i need access url from shell
[16:55] <ikonia> Tor_: how ?
[16:55] <subz3r0> ikonia: i guess he want to use something like wget with the proxy then
[16:56] <ikonia> Tor_: if you pass through a proxy, it will proxy the same as a browser
[16:56] <Voyager82> cfhowlett, ok. I'll let you know.
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: when converting from a low quality vid -> low quality vid then expect quality loss.    at least with the command cfhowlett gave you, you are not converting the internal stream
[16:56] <pietro10> never mind, I'll just set up a 32-bit linux for cross compiling, meh
[16:56] <pietro10> thanks anyway
[16:56] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO, how do I convert the file effectively?
[16:57] <subz3r0> ikonia: how does it work? pass the shell through a proxy?
[16:57] <subz3r0> never thought about it. but nice to know
[16:57] <ikonia> subz3r0: the shell doesn't, tools like curl, wget etc,
[16:57] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: the command cfhowlett gave you...    other than that you should be using a high quality source, even for a low quality output
[16:57] <cfhowlett> agree ^^^
[16:57] <subz3r0> ikonia: yup.
[16:58] <cfhowlett> thus my comment garbage in/garbage out
[16:58] <ikonia> subz3r0: so what are you actually asking
[16:58] <Tor_> ikonia: did you get what i mean???
[16:58] <subz3r0> ikonia: thought there is maybe a trock how you can use everything what you use in the shell trought a proxy ;)
[16:58] <metaphysician> Thank a Linux packager today http://opensource.com/business/14/2/thank-a-linux-packager-today
[16:58] <subz3r0> trick
[16:58] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO, really. I don't understand. I want to convert the same kind of information into another format. How am I supposed to do it?
[16:58] <ikonia> Tor_: what do you actually want to do
[16:58] <andybrine> Does anyone know a program that will allow you to rip a playable dvd on ubuntu?
[16:58] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO, the quality is not DVD quality, but I want to keep it as good as possible. :)
[16:58] <subz3r0> ikonia: ofc you can to the trick with routing ;)
[16:59] <andybrine> P.s. This is my video
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: forst answer why you need to convert. whats the restriction with the player? just not able to read the mp4 container? or is it an issue with the codec itself?
[16:59] <subz3r0> andybrine: what does rip playable mean? Ripping a dvd means that you rip the stuff to your harddisk... nothing else
[16:59] <jhutchins> andybrine: dd
[16:59] <TJ-> pietro10: "find /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ -regex '.*/lib\(gtk\|atk\|gio\|pango\|gdpk_pixbuf\|cairo\|gobject\|glib\).*' | pastebinit "
[16:59] <subz3r0> jhutchins: :D
[17:00] <Tor_> ikonia: i need to add repo by apt-get update but url is banned by ISP
[17:00] <andybrine> I want to create a playable dvd
[17:00] <jhutchins> andybrine: That direction is "burn".
[17:00] <ikonia> Tor_: then you'll struggle to do tht
[17:00] <ikonia> that
[17:00] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO, yes. I want to put it on DVD, to watch it on my TV. That's the issue. It's the DVD player that doesn't read MP4 files.
[17:00] <subz3r0> andybrine: what standard?
[17:00] <andybrine> Would be an mp4
[17:00] <TJ-> Tor_: If URL is banned, have you tried using it's IP instead?
[17:00] <Tor_> ikonia: is it possible bu squid??
[17:01] <ikonia> Tor_: running squid on the same ISP will still be blocked
[17:01] <subz3r0> andybrine: uhmm? didnt you say it doesnt work with mp4? now you want mp4?
[17:01] <jhutchins> Tor_: What repo?  Why is it blocked?
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: then just use the line command cfhowlett. and that will change the container type. if it does infact show to be a codec issue, then you would need to convert from a higher quality source to get the same quality
[17:02] <jhutchins> andybrine: gnome's burner - brassero?  should be able to do that.
[17:02] <andybrine> Thanks jutchins
[17:02] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO, ok. Let's see what happens. :)
[17:03] <Tor_> i dont know why it is blocked by ISP and its not matter , important issue is : is it possible way to overcome banned urls by squid
[17:03] <ikonia> Tor_: no, as the squid server will be on the same ISP and still blocked
[17:03] <ikonia> Tor_: plus we are not going to help you bypass your ISP's policy
[17:03] <andybrine> I have just tried to burn a playable dvd on ubuntu and it didnt work before
[17:05] <joshu__> 	 hi using parted for the first time. I have a new attached disk 4GB. If I use the following command: `    parted -s -a optimal /dev/sdb mkpart primary 645 4294` Does that mean that the root partition will be 4GB and be aligned 32K?
[17:11] <Tor_> anybody knows about nodejs
[17:11] <ikonia> Tor_: what's your question
[17:11] <ikonia> rather than asking if anyone knows about something
[17:12] <Tor_> i like to know who knows about nodejs
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> Tor_: thats an offtopic question then for this channel.
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> Tor_: #node.js is a good channel for such
[17:14] <Thete> Anyone here?
[17:14] <jonbryan> nope :P
[17:15] <Tor_> thanks
[17:18] <SupaYoshi> hey guys, im having issuees again with my dns server inside my openwrt box.
[17:18] <SupaYoshi> I have tunnlr installed, and I think it might have to do something with that.
[17:18] <SupaYoshi> But im not sure.
[17:19] <llutz> SupaYoshi: and your ubuntu-related question is?
[17:21] <SupaYoshi> oh crap im in the wrong channel
[17:21] <SupaYoshi> sorry
[17:27] <Helping_Hands> hiyo, need help--trying to install Ubuntu over network and it does not seem to get into Kickstart.  I have captured a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytjRh75ZQFQ&feature=youtu.be
[17:28] <JoeSomebody> without logging in via kde, can i customize up unity a bit to look like kde or windows? i could not figure it out, nor did i find what i thought were good link, i think there is often too many results in ubuntu search land, can someone provide some links on this? not wanting hand holding, just a pointer in the right direction :)
[17:28] <adwadwa> I HAVE A COMPRESSED FILE THAT UNCOMPRESSED DOES NOT FIT WITH THE COMPRESSED VERSION IN MY DISK IS THERE A WAY TO UNCOMPRESS IT AND DELETE THE COMPRESSED VERSION WHILE IT SI DONE?
[17:29] <adwadwa> sorry caps
[17:29] <jpds> adwadwa: Surely you can free up some space somehow.
[17:29] <JoeSomebody> i do not want to use kde on THAT machine due to wanting to try ubuntu only software
[17:29] <jpds> adwadwa: Otherwise, you have bigger problems.
[17:29] <hitsujiTMO> Helping_Hands: kickstart is for red hat based idstros, not debian based
[17:29] <adwadwa> jpds it is a server it has 30GB of hard disk
[17:29] <JoeSomebody> seems my kde login defeats that testing
[17:29] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO, it says there is some support for kickstart
[17:30] <adwadwa> jdps my compressed file is 13 GB uncompresses 17 and the system uses up some
[17:30] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO, let me point to the link
[17:30] <groundnuty> hey, I'm having problem with my hdd. I used to download 'ultimatebootcd' but the site seems now dead. what is a popular tool nowadays?
[17:30] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO,  https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[17:30] <presto0> hi, i run an app in a VPS, from SSH, but when i close the SSH connection the application stops, how to keep it runing enven if i disconnect from it?
[17:31] <jpds> adwadwa: Then, you're going to have to move that somewhere else.
[17:31] <llutz> presto0: screen, nohup, ---
[17:31] <JoeSomebody> desktop icons and panel stuff mostly i want to customize, can i ?
[17:31] <presto0> i need more data llutz
[17:31] <presto0> how i do that?
[17:31] <AntelopeSalad> does anyone know offhand how to get around "the following signatures couldn't be verified... no pub key available" errors?
[17:32] <AntelopeSalad> i am following instructions that worked 5-6 months ago but it seems like they no longer work
[17:32] <hitsujiTMO> Helping_Hands: that documentation is pretty old looking and may be out of date.
[17:32] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO,  I see
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> Helping_Hands: this may be better for you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[17:33] <Phobos> hello guys
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> Helping_Hands: still uses kickstart it seems
[17:33] <Helping_Hands> ok
[17:34] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO, ill read it
[17:34] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO, brb
[17:35] <Phobos> after removing some files manually of the  package nginx, files located in /etc and /var, it's seems impossible for me to recover this files in new installation
[17:35] <Phobos> even if I did apt-get purge etc
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> Phobos: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure nginx       maybe
[17:35] <Phobos> how can I fix this
[17:36] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, I tried it but it gives nothing
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> Phobos: otherwise you'll habe to go thru the install script and see how its generating those files
[17:36] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, wow !!
[17:36] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, any pistes to do so ?
[17:37] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, there is no reset command in apt-get or something like that ?
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> Phobos: ok. don't purge nginx. purge and reinstal nginx-common
[17:38] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, ok
[17:38] <AntelopeSalad> does anyone know why this would fail with a invalid public key not available error?
[17:38] <AntelopeSalad> http://stackoverflow.com/a/19622811
[17:39] <AntelopeSalad> it fails when i do an apt update
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> Phobos: nginx-common is responsible for /etc/nginx/nginx.conf   at least. so thats the one to reconfigure
[17:39] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, hhmm ok thanks I am trying
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> AntelopeSalad: can you pastebin te output of: sudo apt-get update
[17:41] <Karditsa_btm> r
[17:41] <mvdve> Hi All, I have a ubuntu LAMP development server, works great, but i cant access files from een external system. the main page works perfect, but every sub page give a 404 error. Does somebody has any idea where this config issue is?
[17:41] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, LOL that was the issue.. Thanks very much dude
[17:42] <AntelopeSalad> hitsujiTMO: https://gist.github.com/AntelopeSalad/9119286
[17:43] <nichlas> mvdve: who is the file/dir owner?
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> AntelopeSalad: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0BB6536FEB999287
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> AntelopeSalad: then rerun sudo apt-get update
[17:44] <negev> hi, i've configured touchegg and set my trackpad driver to evdev but the gestures aren't working, can anyone link me to a more thorough howto for this?  thanks
[17:44] <Phobos> exit
[17:45] <AntelopeSalad> hitsujiTMO: somehow i was able to install what i wanted to install without running apt update first -- is it possible it was reading an old key?
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> AntelopeSalad: you can still install without a key. it just warns you that the package is unverified
[17:45] <AntelopeSalad> ah
[17:45] <AntelopeSalad> i thought it was a show stopper
[17:46] <AntelopeSalad> after your recommendation it successfully ran apt update without warnings, thanks
[17:47] <iwkse> hi, do you know any app where it's possible to track time and give a per hour cost? something like that?
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> AntelopeSalad: unverified repos leave you open to dns attacks is all. (dns entry pointing to a fake repo that is)
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> iwkse: like a net cafe POS software?
[17:47] <AntelopeSalad> hitsujiTMO: oh good to know, in this case it's postgres' official source
[17:48] <iwkse> hitsujiTMO: well somehow similar, but i need to to track my work
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> iwkse: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/rationalplan-single/ like ?
[17:51] <iwkse> hitsujiTMO: yeah something like that, thank you
[17:51] <JoeSomebody> i am scared to ask, but no answer can mean unity not customizable, can someone tell me please?
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> iwkse: pleanty of others, but not sure what includes billing features too: http://www.dotproject.net/ http://www.achievo.org/ http://www.ganttproject.biz/ http://faces.homeip.net/
[17:52] <JoeSomebody> a page says drag an icon to desktop, then it crashes
[17:52] <JoeSomebody> reboot and same thing\ right of the reboot of updated system
[17:53] <JoeSomebody> tried other stuff i found on google,  didnt work so cant remember
[17:53] <JoeSomebody> could not even figure out how to change colors even
[17:55] <WiredGh0st> http://www.braindance.tk  new experimental music radio
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> WiredGh0st: please do not solicit here
[17:57] <JoeSomebody> clicked search icon, typed naut and kaboom it locked before i could finish trying it locks up, reboot update,  did it again
[17:57] <Noobler> hey
[17:57] <sjmikem> When I add a new .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications, do I need to re-login for it to be visible in the "Open with..." dialog ?
[17:57] <JoeSomebody> yes i am kde fan but this seems a BIT unusable guys
[17:57] <JoeSomebody> i am actually trying
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> sjmikem: no it should show up automatically. if its not can you pastebin the contents of the .desktop file
[17:59] <sjmikem> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/1SLKa5bg
[18:00] <sjmikem> trying to make it so that clicking on .ics file runs gcalccli import %U
[18:00] <sjmikem> s/gcalccli/gcalcli
[18:01] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: is it a terminal command?
[18:01] <sjmikem> Actionparsnip yes, installed in /usr/bin
[18:02] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: then you will need to change the command to run: gnome-terminal -c "your command here"
[18:02] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: unless you don't want to see the command run...
[18:03] <sjmikem> Actionparsnip: I don't care about seeing the command run, but the "Import ICS file into Google Calendar" is not showing up in my "Open With..." dialog
[18:04] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: ahh I see
[18:04] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: could look into nautilus scripts
[18:05] <sjmikem> Actionparsnip: Isn't adding the .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications supposed to be sufficient?
[18:06] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: could try in /usr/share/applications to be sure
[18:06] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: may have to run: nautilus -q ,to restart nautilus
[18:08] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: what sort of file does the 'file' command say your file you are right clicking is?
[18:08] <sjmikem> Actionparsnip: nautilus -q did not work
[18:09] <sjmikem> "vCalendar calendar file"
[18:09] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: ok that's cool. What are the options to open it with?
[18:11] <mariofanelli> #prod-team
[18:11] <sjmikem> When I right-click on it, I get options to open it with gvim or notepad, or "other application..."
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> sjmikem: try adding Terminal=true to the .desktop file
[18:11] <sjmikem> but when I select "other application", I do not see the new  .desktop action anywhere
[18:12] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: what other applications can you open it with are in the right click menu?
[18:13] <sjmikem> hitsujiTMO: tried that, no luck
[18:13] <sjmikem> Actionparsnip: All of my other applications, from "Archive Manager" to "wordpad" are listed
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> sjmikem: also get rid of the TryExec
[18:15] <JoeSomebody> does anyone use canonical support here? thinking of buying it, if the only help i get is stuff like YOU CANT DO THAT IN GNOME , then will i get my money back?
[18:15] <JoeSomebody> why will you not answer ? i asked more than one thing here
[18:15] <Madcatyoji> What are you buying it for Joe? Are you trying to do something that you can't do in gnome?
[18:15] <JoeSomebody> i do not know what can or cannot be done in gnome
[18:16] <JoeSomebody> i want to try ubuntu only apps
[18:16] <sjmikem> OK, not sure what I did but it is working now.  Thanks for the help!
[18:16] <JoeSomebody> i am a kde guy last few years
[18:17] <Madcatyoji> I honestly don't know, I am avoiding gnome. lol
[18:17] <mvdve> nichlas, i tried several security settings, even 777 (still learing the security thing).
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> sjmikem: its because you effective had it point to 2 different apps or 2 different types of applications. so nautilus was filtering it out
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> sjmikem: this works for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966755/ as long as gcalcli is in $PATH
[18:18] <JoeSomebody> my fist questions will be how to make gnome MORE usable, i find it bad FOR ME, windows 8 category gui
[18:18] <JoeSomebody> emailed canonical
[18:19] <JoeSomebody> maybe they will respond this time
[18:19] <JoeSomebody> i dont think they liked my last message
[18:20] <SupaYoshi> i need some help with dnsmasq, is there anyone online here that can help me out with it?
[18:21] <JoeSomebody> i need 50 more icons than i can fit on that vertical bar
[18:21] <timppa> Hi! Is there a way to run unity8 on boot with current 14.04 version?
[18:21] <philbo> hi!
[18:21] <ainx> i wow trusty tahr
[18:22] <presto0> how to retrieve a nohup command
[18:22] <presto0> ¿?
[18:22] <JoeSomebody> need to know if there is opensuse yast type thing, for setting up the OS and GUI
[18:23] <philbo> I have an ubuntustudio livecd running. I have successfully installed to a usb external drive on my macbook - but I think something went wrong with the bootloader installation - holding "option" does not show the ubuntu partition
[18:23] <JoeSomebody> or a pclinuxos control centre type of thing
[18:23] <JoeSomebody> both awesome, you should clone them :)
[18:24] <philbo> presto0: do you mean you want to kill a process started with nohup?
[18:24] <JoeSomebody> even windows has those things (control panel)
[18:24] <haserwa> flightgear: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) aga 1:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 paigaldatakse
[18:24] <haserwa>             Depends: libopenal1 (>= 1:1.13) aga 1:1.13-4ubuntu3 paigaldatakse
[18:24] <haserwa>             Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.6) aga 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 paigaldatakse
[18:24] <haserwa>             Depends: libudev0 (>= 147) aga 175-0ubuntu9.4 paigaldatakse
[18:24] <haserwa>        Depends: zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) aga 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3ubuntu4 paigaldatakse
[18:25] <philbo> presto0: or do you mean you want to redirect the output of a process started with nohup?
[18:26] <JoeSomebody> not trying to say gnome is garbage, (or piss anyone off) i wouldn't really know yet anyways, but if not customizable at all then i will NEVER KNOW
[18:27] <martinrame> Hi, I need to execute an "at" command to restart a service at midnight. I'm wondering if the "sudo service xxxxxx restart" will ask for a password.
[18:27] <skelterjohn> so, i've lost my mouse. it's disappeared completely, and i'm not sure how to get it back.
[18:27] <JoeSomebody> I WILL SAY that like windows 8 , it scares my friends away
[18:27] <skelterjohn> i've only got one monitor
[18:27] <llutz> martinrame: it will, use "sudo -i" then "at blabla"
[18:27] <philbo> skelterjohn: this happened to me with a laptop trackpad - i plugged in a USB mouse and it came back
[18:27] <Pici> martinrame: or if you want to do it every midnight, put it in root's crontab.
[18:28] <skelterjohn> philbo: this is a desktop, i've re-plugged the mouse to no avail
[18:28] <martinrame> llutz: great!
[18:28] <martinrame> Pici: no, I just want to be executed one time.
[18:28] <JoeSomebody> thus i am here asking you how to tame the beast, please help
[18:28] <philbo> skelterjohn: oh dear ;o( not sure what else to suggest
[18:29] <skelterjohn> i imagine rebooting would fix it, but that's really obnoxious
[18:29] <skelterjohn> got a lot of stuff going on
[18:29] <skelterjohn> oh well, i guess that's what i have to do
[18:29] <philbo> does the mouse show up (if it's usb) with usb-devices?
[18:29] <JoeSomebody> way back, i didnt like kde a whole lot at first either, have used xfce and lxde distros too, i am trying to give it a fair chance
[18:29] <presto0> philbo i run an application using nohup and now i cannot write nay command, how do i write more commands while the process is runing
[18:29] <presto0> ¿?
[18:30] <llutz> martinrame: echo "service blafoo restart"|sudo at midnight                            could work too
[18:31] <martinrame> llutz: unrecognized service blafoo :)
[18:32] <martinrame> llutz: Done, I've tested with "atq" and the job was scheduled by root, so, tomorrow I'll check if it was run.
[18:32] <llutz> martinrame: works here, it's not ubuntu but shouldn't make any difference
[18:33] <philbo> presto0: i'm sorry i'm not sure - if you used bash - maybe you can "disown"?
[18:34] <Madcatyoji> Is there an easy way to set a cron to back up a specific folder and all contained files every hour or so and a separate job to say delete any occurrences of that folder and it's contents older than say 2 days?
[18:34] <presto0> it let me write but i am not in the line prompt
[18:34] <presto0> its like if.... after run the nohup command, you where in a notepad writing
[18:35] <Ergo> hello
[18:36] <philbo> presto0: are you in text mode? you could ctrl+alt+Fn2 to another shell and maybe try "disown" in bash?
[18:36] <Ergo> is it normal that on ubuntu 12.04 lxc-checkconfig returns User namespace: missing
[18:36] <yacc_> presto0: nohup command &
[18:36] <presto0> philbo i am connected by ssh to a VPS
[18:36] <yacc_> presto0: nohup just makes the command continue if you logout on it.
[18:36] <yacc_> presto0: & makes it run in the background.
[18:36] <philbo> whelp - i'm outa ideas! sorry presto0
[18:38] <Diplomatico> Hello, the upgrade to 13.10 had errors. What do I have to do?
[18:38] <philbo> apologies guys I must go - sorry I couldn't help
[18:38] <philbo> bye for now!
[18:40] <llutz> Madcatyoji: rsnapshot could help you. run it hourly and set "interval" according in your rsnapshot.conf
[18:40] <Madcatyoji> I will check that out. Thank you!
[18:41] <presto0> how i check if the process i runned using nohup is still running¿?
[18:42] <Oog> ubuntu 13.10 - have postgresql installed and it starts on boot via an init.d script i think. how do i disable it from starting at boot?
[18:42] <tmmunq> presto0: top
[18:42] <llutz> presto0: ps <pid>  or pgrep procname
[18:42] <nichlas> Diplomatico: load your backup and return to previous version. Or fresh install. Or maybe tell us what is wrong.
[18:43] <Diplomatico> I think fresh install would be the easiest thing to do...Thans...
[18:43] <Diplomatico> k
[18:43] <yacc_> presto0: & makes it run in the background.
[18:43] <ment0s> hello
[18:44] <negev> add-apt-repository ppa:utouch-team/daily <-- this gives me "cannot access PPA" but the link works fine in a browser, any ideas?
[18:44] <xangua> negev: use sudo
[18:44] <negev> i did
[18:44] <ment0s> Could some one help me with secondary hard drive which is spinning up even if no service is reading data from it ? I have ultrabay in my thinkpad and I always have to wait for that hard drive to spin up
[18:44] <negev> im root
[18:45] <presto0> how do i "nohup" a process ?
[18:45] <presto0> i mean no "nohup"
[18:45] <presto0> undenohup
[18:46] <xangua> negev: looks like it's no longer aviable https://launchpad.net/~utouch-team/+archive/daily
[18:46] <hpanni> hi
[18:46] <hpanni> hello
[18:46] <Xuisce> hello
[18:46] <negev> ugh
[18:47] <negev> i just want trackpad gestures, why is this so hard :/
[18:47] <llutz> presto0: fg <jobnr>
[18:48] <presto0> how do i see a list of all the linux comand available ?
[18:49] <Matriks404> ls /bin or ls /usr/bin
[18:50] <presto0> damn, after execute "nohup process" i enter in text mode, any way to be out of there
[18:50] <presto0> ¿?
[18:51] <Thete> what process did you do that to?
[18:51] <presto0> its a nodejs application
[18:51] <presto0> i put "nohup node gekko"
[18:51] <presto0> and it works
[18:51] <presto0> but i enter in text mode then
[18:52] <llutz> presto0: ctrl c
[18:52] <presto0> if i press control C
[18:52] <presto0> the app ends up killed
[18:52] <llutz> presto0: that stops the process, ctrl-z to suspend (bg to send it in background)
[18:53] <presto0> i nice, control z did the work
[18:53] <presto0> i checked the ls /bin
[18:53] <llutz> presto0: disown -h          would prevent the job from being killed if you logout
[18:54] <presto0> well, nohup works
[18:54] <presto0> even if i logout
[18:54] <presto0> its still running
[18:56] <presto0> i did "man disown" and then "control z"
[18:56] <presto0> the job is in the backgrown now
[18:56] <presto0> how do i stop it?
[18:56] <presto0> i check the "ps aux" list and the PID is 2046
[18:56] <presto0> i put kill 2046 and it dont work
[18:57] <llutz> presto0: fg <jobnr>
[18:57] <llutz> presto0: "q"
[18:58] <presto0> okeyyy
[18:58] <presto0> by the way, the "control z" stops the application
[18:58] <presto0> its not good...
[18:58] <llutz> presto0: it suspends, yes. use "bg" to let it run in backgroud
[18:58] <llutz> presto0: it suspends, yes. use "bg" to let it run in background
[18:59] <presto0> looks like its paused
[18:59] <presto0> okey
[18:59] <presto0> let me try
[18:59] <llutz> presto0: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0080.php
[19:01] <presto0> i can't kill a paused process?
[19:01] <presto0> its not workinggg argh
[19:01] <presto0> i feel fustrated
[19:01] <llutz> presto0: kill %<jobnr>
[19:03] <presto0> [root@Saturnk gekko]# kill %2282
[19:03] <presto0> -bash: kill: %2282: no such job
[19:03] <llutz> presto0: jobnr is not pid
[19:03] <llutz> presto0: "jobs" to find it
[19:03] <llutz> presto0: read the link i gave you
[19:03] <Brutus|_> does anyone know why on my ubuntu machine my ad blockers might not work in chromium? I got the latest version. Even reinstalled the add blockers. work fine on windows
[19:03] <presto0> i am on it
[19:04] <Nach0z> Brutus|_: IIRC chromium comes with its own version of flash bundled, it's possible that abp doesn't work on the bundled version. might try enabling normal flash in chromium to see if that fixes it.
[19:04] <Nach0z> maybe.
[19:05] <Brutus|_> Nach0z: that's a good tip. I'll try that
[19:05] <Brutus|_> Thanks
[19:05] <xangua> Nach0z:  Brutus|_ chromium does not come with pepper flash, google chrome does
[19:09] <presto0> okey so control-Z stops the process and "bg <job>" make it run again
[19:09] <Brutus|_> Nach0z: I can't seem to get the right flash player. I got the last version installed (11.2) according to the site
[19:09] <Brutus|_> but other sites tell me to install 12 which I can't find :S
[19:09] <Brutus|_> my system is up-to-date
[19:10] <Brutus|_> adobe says I'm using the latest
[19:10] <wheatthin> You have a choice.. either wait until you can update to 14.04, or install using a ppa
[19:11] <wheatthin> Brutus|_, ^^
[19:12] <Brutus|_> oh
[19:12] <Brutus|_> what do I update with the PPA?
[19:13] <Thete> I wish 14.04 was out already
[19:13] <Thete> I wanna upgrade my servers
[19:14] <tmmunq> upgrade some virtual ones to the rc?
[19:14] <bekks> Thete: No need to hurry, 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[19:14] <Brutus|_> no idea if there is something new in 14.04
[19:14] <Thete> Unfortunately I'm not running LTS :(
[19:15] <Thete> I'm on 12.10 & 13.04 at the moment
[19:15] <bekks> 13.04 is EOL.
[19:15] <Brutus|_> I'm on 12.04 and 13.10
[19:15] <bekks> Thete: you should update it to 13.10 immediately.
[19:15] <Thete> I'm gonna wait til april
[19:15] <Thete> I have a ton of sites to migrate
[19:15] <Thete> Don't wanna have to do it twice
[19:16] <tmmunq> how long are the non-LTS releases supported now? i though it was at least 18 months
[19:16] <bekks> Thete: And you are leaving all sites without support, without security updates till april.
[19:16] <Brutus|_> 4x 12.04 at work as servers, 3x 13.10 at home
[19:16] <bekks> tmmunq: 12.10 18 months, 13.04 9 months, 13.10 9 months.
[19:16] <Thete> bekks: I'm not worried about it
[19:17] <Brutus|_> Hey I'm running 4 server 2003 servers at work
[19:17] <Brutus|_> :)
[19:17] <Brutus|_> 3 servers with 2008R2 and about 15 with 2012R2
[19:17] <Thete> the only thing open on em is nginx
[19:18] <bekks> Thete: No ssh?
[19:18] <fer755> Brutus|_, ar? and it is relevant to tell that on #debian?
[19:18] <Brutus|_> it's not debian
[19:18] <Brutus|_> It's Ubuntu :P
[19:18] <fer755> sry *#ubuntu
[19:18] <Thete> bekks: Not to the outside
[19:18] <Brutus|_> But I thought we were comparing version s:)
[19:19] <ice9> rsync can't delete non-empty dirs even when using --force
[19:20] <bekks> Thats not true.
[19:20] <bekks> rsync deletes the content and then the empty di.
[19:20] <bekks> *dir even. I am using that for years now.
[19:20] <ice9> bekks: "cannot delete non-empty directory: "
[19:21] <bekks> ice9: Then you dont have permissions to delete the content.
[19:21] <ice9> bekks: "rsync -arvih --force --delete --delete-before --progress --stats "
[19:22] <ice9> bekks: now I'm the owner and I have full permission
[19:23] <presto0> is there any damn easy way to isntall VNC in a VPS with just one or two copy/paste commands?
[19:24] <bekks> presto0: "sudo apt-get install tightvncserver" - and please watch your language.
[19:33] <Blanco> Re
[19:34] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> When you boot the computer, it writes where /dev/dvd looks.  Where is the file on the operating system that does this?
[19:35] <bekks> Ryu_Fitzgerald: Whats the actual issue behind that?
[19:36] <tmmunq> i think its udev that makes those devices
[19:36] <llutz> Ryu_Fitzgerald: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules  you mean?
[19:41] <streulma> hello, unity-panel-service crashing in 13.10. Are there other people who has the same? It's right after logout and login.
[19:41] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> is unity panel service related to unity web player?
[19:42] <chaotix> heyy...  so i may have just broken my Ubuntu install and could use a hand please
[19:42] <chaotix> i might be just paranoid
[19:42] <bekks> chaotix: So just ask a specific question.
[19:42] <chaotix> anyways, i went to try out an app called musica, so i instaled via the command line
[19:42] <chaotix> i am
[19:42] <chaotix> i am a slow typer
[19:43] <chaotix> and then it gave me an error
[19:43] <bekks> 17SAAHV8M: Which error...?
[19:43] <idontknow> sudo apt-get install porn
[19:43] <chaotix> so i went to uninstall, and without reading what it was uninstlling, said yes to it...
[19:43] <bekks> GNA.
[19:43] <idontknow> clear
[19:43] <idontknow> clear
[19:43] <idontknow> exit
[19:43] <chaotix> http://fpaste.org/79028/25194139/
[19:43] <bekks> chaotix: Please ask a specific question one line.
[19:43] <chaotix> there is the paste
[19:43] <bekks> !details | chaotix
[19:44] <presto0> damn
[19:44] <presto0> xfce takes ages to install
[19:44] <chaotix> ok, i will re state what i just said in one line
[19:45] <streulma> chaotix: I see it is removing Wine
[19:46] <streulma> and all it related 32-bit packages chaotix
[19:46] <streulma> nothing wrong with that :)
[19:46] <kostkon> Ryu_Fitzgerald, not related
[19:46] <chaotix> streulma, should i re install all the stuff it just uninstalled?
[19:46] <kostkon> streulma, you could try resetting unity/compiz http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[19:47] <streulma> chaotix: if you need Wine > sudo apt-get install wine
[19:47] <sadbox> chaotix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/musica/+bug/1244293   ?
[19:47] <chaotix> streulma, ok....  thanks
[19:47] <chaotix> streulma, i see now...
[19:48] <chaotix> i do not know why it was getting rid of wine...  oh well..  next time i will pay attention before i say yes
[19:48] <chaotix> i was distracted
[19:48] <sadbox> chaotix: A few days ago I accidentally autoremoved xorg + most of my sustem
[19:48] <streulma> kostkon: this site is not available
[19:49] <chaotix> sadbox, whoa
[19:49] <kostkon> streulma, what do you mean
[19:49] <sadbox> chaotix: tl;dr don't install xorg-dev if you're using the saucy-lts packages
[19:50] <chaotix> sadbox, can you re install before the computer restarts, or did you have to re install ubuntu?
[19:50] <streulma> kostkon: can't access webupd8.org (I know this site)
[19:53] <streulma> guys, install Ubuntu 12.04, 13.10 or 14.04 in test ?
[19:53] <kikjezrous> 13.10, imo.
[19:53] <bekks> 12.04
[19:53] <streulma> 12.04 is now more stable bekks ?
[19:54] <user_> d
[19:54] <bekks> !lts | streulma
[19:54] <streulma> on the workplace they use 12.04
[19:54] <kikjezrous> yeah, but 13.10's stabler/faster, from what i've seen.  are you doing it for work or for personal test?
[19:54] <kikjezrous> LTS for workplace, sure.
[19:55] <user_> how do i log into my actually irc account?
[19:56] <user_> loging
[19:57] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> does avast antivirus monitor the system for infection or is it simply a scanner?
[19:57] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> i am refering to the free one
[19:57] <bekks> Ryu_Fitzgerald: You have to ask avast.
[19:58] <KM0201> Ryu_Fitzgerald: not 100% sure, but i belive it's just a scanner
[19:58] <lebafar> hey guys, what free VM would you recommend me to run Ubuntu server?
[19:58] <bekks> lebafar: Virtualbox.
[19:58] <alazar> anybody have a udev rule to ignore usb storage devices?
[19:59] <KM0201> lebafar: virtualbox is easy.
[19:59] <KM0201> lebafar: what are you using your server for?
[20:00] <lebafar> bekks, ok, thank you. is it : sudo apt-get install virtualbox the command to install it?
[20:00] <TJ-> lebafar: kvm/qemu, or mabe lxc containers
[20:00] <lebafar> KM0201, Apache for now.
[20:00] <presto0> hi,
[20:00] <KM0201> hmm.
[20:00] <presto0> i installed VNC with xfce and i connect but i just see a background image, no icons, no nothing, no bar...
[20:00] <TJ-> alazar: You can add a simple rule that matches on the usb-storage sub-system, in "/etc/udev/rules.d/"
[20:01] <bekks> presto0: Thats intended, since VNC runs on its own display.
[20:01] <bekks> !vnc | presto0
[20:01] <lebafar> If I intend to have a client accessing vim at server, how do I connect with it?
[20:01] <TJ-> lebafar: If you want the VM for a single-application appliance type deployment that LXC would be favourite
[20:01] <bekks> lebafar: ssh
[20:01] <alazar> yep, been working on trying to get a rule that matches for some time, no luck yet, was hoping someone might have done it already
[20:01] <presto0> so? how do i see the scren
[20:01] <presto0> the bar and so on
[20:01] <lebafar> TJ-, I may install some extra stuff in future.
[20:02] <vfsm> hello all
[20:02] <lebafar> bekks, thank you.
[20:03] <vfsm> can i say my problem with ubuntu?
[20:03] <bekks> presto0: You would have to setup and use x11vnc.
[20:03] <TJ-> alazar: you want to stop usb-storage mass-storage devices being handled?
[20:03] <presto0> damn so whats the use of vnc
[20:03] <presto0> if you see nothing
[20:03] <presto0> but a the mouse and a background
[20:04] <alazar> TJ-: exactly
[20:04] <bekks> presto0: Watch your language.
[20:04] <alazar> TJ-: tried a number of udev rules, having a hard time getting a rule to do the job.
[20:04] <compdoc> presto0, what version of ubuntu?
[20:04] <presto0> sorry i am frustrated
[20:04] <presto0> its cenos 6
[20:04] <presto0> centos 6
[20:05] <compdoc> heh
[20:05] <bekks> presto0: Then go ask the centos support.
[20:05] <Jordan_U> presto0: This is #ubuntu. Try #centos for CENTOS support.
[20:05] <presto0> isnt all same thing?
[20:05] <bekks> presto0: No. Centos isnt Ubuntu.
[20:06] <Jordan_U> presto0: No, it definitely isn't. If you want a generic linux support channel there is also ##linux.
[20:06] <presto0> well its all linux
[20:06] <compdoc> presto0, most of the time, you need to edit the file /home/user/.vnc/xstart
[20:06] <compdoc> once that file is right, and you give yourself a vncpasswd, you should be good to go
[20:07] <presto0> [root@Saturnk bill]# cat /home/user/.vnc/xstart
[20:07] <presto0> cat: /home/user/.vnc/xstart: No such file or directory
[20:07] <presto0> [root@Saturnk bill]#
[20:07] <Jordan_U> presto0: The official policy of this channel is that we only support Ubuntu. Please respect that.
[20:07] <TJ-> alazar: "  ACTION=="add|change", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", SUBSYSTEM=="block", GOTO="usbignore_end"  "  LABEL="usbignore_end" might get you started
[20:07] <compdoc> presto0, doesnt sound like youve installed a vnc server
[20:07] <Beldar> compdoc, Help them in a pm or the correct channel. ;)
[20:08] <presto0> well
[20:08] <alazar> TJ-: hmm that is a diff approach. I'll try it. Can I ask what lead you to that solution w/ the GOTO?
[20:08] <presto0> i am connected to it
[20:08] <presto0> damn it with centos cahnnel, they ask for registered nick
[20:08] <presto0> each step is a damn barrier
[20:09] <TJ-> alazar: It's the standard way of matching on something but doing nothing
[20:09] <compdoc> IRC is hell
[20:09] <lebafar> Ubuntu Server 13.10 runs only at 32 bits?
[20:09] <Beldar> presto0, You are not following a mods request, they will quiet you or ban you, just a heads up, you can register.
[20:09] <DJones> presto0: This channel is for Ubuntu support, #centos is for Centos support
[20:09] <alazar> TJ-: thanks - I'll try it. later
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> lebafar: i386 = 32bit. amd64 = 54bit
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> 64bit*
[20:10] <compdoc> lebafar, I use the 64bit version
[20:11] <grisza> witam
[20:12] <lebafar> hitsujiTMO, I could only find 64 bits version at ubuntu.com :P
[20:13] <presto0> [root@Saturnk bill]#
[20:13] <presto0> what does that means?
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> lebafar: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/
[20:13] <presto0> i am root or i am bill ?
[20:13] <llutz> presto0: "whoami" tells you
[20:13] <presto0> it says root
[20:13] <presto0> and "bill" is what
[20:13] <DJones> presto0: Please pastebin cat/etc/issue
[20:14] <lebafar> hitsujiTMO, oh, cool, thank you man!
[20:14] <grisza> what v is better ?  11 nifa or 12 ?
[20:14] <llutz> presto0: echo $PS1
[20:14] <presto0> DJones
[20:14] <presto0> [root@Saturnk bill]# cat /etc/issue
[20:14] <presto0> CentOS release 6.5 (Final)
[20:14] <presto0> Kernel \r on an \m
[20:14] <lvleph> can someone help me figure out why lsassd is using 100% of cpu on two cores?
[20:15] <streulma> presto0 please ask in #centos
[20:15] <DJones> presto0: ok, You're using centos, please join the centos support channels, this channel is for Ubuntu support only, we can't help you with centos issues
[20:15] <presto0> they ask me for
[20:15] <presto0> registered nick
[20:15] <llutz> !register | presto0
[20:16] <presto0> i dont have enough force to register the nick
[20:16] <DJones> presto0: Thats a simple thing, #freenode can help with that, or see the bot's link
[20:16] <presto0> i am so frustrated to focus or more steps
[20:16] <presto0> on*
[20:16] <DJones> presto0: Enough. You're not using Ubuntu, please don't keep asking here
[20:16] <compdoc> may the force be with you
[20:17] <presto0> linux exhaust my mental energy
[20:18] <lvleph> registering your nick has nothing to do with linux
[20:18] <grisza> :))
[20:18] <lvleph> can someone help me figure out why lsassd is using 100% of cpu on two cores?
[20:19] <grisza> how to join #centos ?
[20:19] <wheatthin> type /join #centos
[20:19] <grisza> thx:)
[20:20] <grisza> wheatthin i have now version 11.10 but, maybe 12.10 is better on my first time on linux ?
[20:21] <bekks> 11.10 is EOL, you have to upgrade to 12.04 at least.
[20:21] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> does this rule command make a symlink from /dev/dvd to /dev/sr0?    KERNEL=="sr0", SYMLINK+="dvd"
[20:21] <grisza> EOL ? what is it
[20:21] <Thete> end of life
[20:21] <Thete> Put 13.10 on it
[20:21] <wheatthin> 12.04 is LTS and is supported until april 20th or something like that
[20:21] <Jordan_U> !eol | bekks
[20:22] <bekks> Jordan_U: I know that - and 11.10 is EOL :)
[20:22] <wheatthin> grisza,  from there you can update to 14.04
[20:22] <TJ-> Ryu_Fitzgerald: yes
[20:22] <Jordan_U> bekks: Sorry, meant that for grisza of course :)
[20:22] <bekks> wheatthin: 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[20:22] <Thete> eww, upgrade
[20:23] <lvleph> got logged out so I will ask my question again, just in case.
[20:23] <lvleph> can someone help me figure out why lsassd is using 100% of cpu on two cores?
[20:23] <grisza> heh... but i hear on 13.xx there some problems
[20:23] <bekks> grisza: then use 12.04
[20:24] <TJ-> lvleph: execute it under 'gdb' and then break into it and get a back-trace
[20:24] <grisza> what about 12.10 ?
[20:24] <wheatthin> grisza, besides ati's proprietary drivers, I have no problems with 13.10
[20:24] <lvleph> man I am too lazy for that. lol
[20:24] <bekks> grisza: you would have to update to 12.04 and then to 12.10. Or just stay with 12.04
[20:24] <daniele__> hi all ... have problem in my toshiba with ubuntu 13.10 ----> hibernate and suspend / resume failure !! what can i do??
[20:24] <lvleph> I have no problems at all with 13.10, well except lsassd.
[20:24] <grisza> ok
[20:25] <lvleph> daniele see if typing sudo pm-suspend in terminal works
[20:25] <lvleph> daniele__, ^^^
[20:25] <daniele__> ok
[20:25] <daniele__> i will see
[20:26] <daniele__> lyleph yeah it work, but the problem is that i can't after suspend work again with ubuntu
[20:26] <grisza> a few min ago i will try install 12.04 but my cd broken and must install 11.04, now i download 12.04 and install ubuntu by pendrive
[20:27] <lvleph> what do you mean daniele__ ?
[20:27] <daniele__> ok i use google translate for be more clear lol
[20:27] <lvleph> daniele__, I understood, but you just need to be more specific
[20:28] <lvleph> daniele__, what language do you speak?
[20:28] <stratus_ss> hi all, can someone help me understand patch files?
[20:28] <daniele__> italian
[20:28] <daniele__> lyleph
[20:29] <rww> ubottu: it
[20:29] <lvleph> My italian is spanish. lol
[20:29] <daniele__> italian ... not answer me :(
[20:29] <rww> ah
[20:29] <grisza> anybody programming on java on ubuntu ?
[20:30] <bekks> !anyone | grisza
[20:30] <daniele__> the problem is that when I suspend the PC can not restart it, but i see only the black screen nothing
[20:30] <Xuisce> hey grisza  head over to #java
[20:30] <Xuisce> :)
[20:30] <grisza> ok sorry
[20:30] <Xuisce> or #programming
[20:30] <Xuisce> no its fine
[20:30] <grisza> sorry guys
[20:30] <Xuisce> grisza:  really don't apologize :
[20:30] <Xuisce> :)
[20:31] <lvleph> daniele__, I understand
[20:31] <lvleph> let me see what I can figure out
[20:31] <daniele__> ok thank you !
[20:31] <grisza> i dont know too much about ubuntu, and im looking help for first steps : P
[20:32] <lvleph> daniele__, maybe look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/361547/ubuntu-freezes-crash-after-wake-when-upgraded-to-13-10
[20:32] <grisza> join /java
[20:32] <lvleph> grisza, you mean /join #java
[20:32] <daniele__> ok i'im going to see it
[20:33] <nullfaith> I just installed ubuntu 13.10 so I could play some games. I auto-hid my unity panel, but I still have an issue. If I play Regnum at 1920x1080, the gnome panel up top stops me from being able to see the bottom of the game window because I cannot raise it that extra half inch.
[20:33] <HDRDanny> Does anyone need a free TeamSpeak 3 server?
[20:33] <HDRDanny> Up to 100 slots.
[20:33] <rww> HDRDanny: That's not on-topic for this channel.
[20:33] <nullfaith> Can I autohide the gbnome panel as well?
[20:33] <nullfaith> gnome*
[20:33] <HDRDanny> rww: you're not my mom.
[20:34] <HDRDanny> This channel has nearly 2K people in it.
[20:34] <rww> HDRDanny: This is an Ubuntu support channel. Are you going to stick to Ubuntu support in it, or no?
[20:34] <HDRDanny> And it can kind of be on topic. The server is run on a Ubuntu server.
[20:34] <rww> offering your server to people is not an Ubuntu support topic, sorry
[20:35] <grisza> guys :D linux is awesome :)
[20:35] <daniele__> lyleph thank you anyway i will try immediatly it :D
[20:35] <HDRDanny> I'm not offering MY server.
[20:35] <HDRDanny> >_>
[20:35] <HDRDanny> FFs.
[20:35] <tirengarfio> any alternative to amule for the kad network?
[20:35] <rww> HDRDanny: That wasn't a rhetorical question, by the way. Are you going to stick to Ubuntu support in here, or not?
[20:35] <HDRDanny> I'm sure I don't have to answer.
[20:36] <HDRDanny> As an American I'll plead my fifth amendment.
[20:36] <rww> erm
[20:36] <hggdh> now that was interesting
[20:37] <Beldar> larry, moe and curly
[20:39] <riqdiiz> Wow..!
[20:40] <nullfaith> And if nobody can answer that question, maybe someone could help me in figring out a way to enable full screen game play one one screen, without it mirroring to the other. I have them set as separate desktops, but when I hit Fullscreen in regnum it mirrors, and I have to redo display settings.
[20:40] <nullfaith> The answer, or help with, either of these questions would be a huge help.
[20:40] <geirha> nullfaith: look into xephyr and similar
[20:41] <nullfaith> Googling now, thanks geirha.
[20:41] <nullfaith> Ok so this is a "virtual desktop" server sort of, that would allow me to play with x/y's without affecting my true desktop?
[20:42] <geirha> nullfaith: Basically, it gives you an Xserver inside a window in another Xserver
[20:43] <nullfaith> Thanks a ton, I am from crunchbang/openbox so all this crazy wm stuff is new to me =)
[20:44] <John_John_> what is sh mode in terminal ?
[20:45] <rannonga> its using the sh shell instead of bash
[20:45] <geirha> John_John_: Will need more context to answer that
[20:45] <John_John_> wow
[20:45] <geirha> "sh mode" is an odd name for it
[20:46] <geirha> something tells me it might be something else
[20:48] <geirha> John_John_: It might be referring to bash's posix mode. Again, without the context, this is only guesswork.
[20:48] <mikemonk> hello people
[20:48] <John_John_> what i mean is this
[20:48] <John_John_> i am on the terminal
[20:48] <John_John_> i write sh
[20:48] <John_John_> i press return
[20:49] <rannonga> sh shell
[20:49] <John_John_> then i get a $
[20:49] <John_John_> what mode is this ?
[20:49] <John_John_> what is sh shell ?
[20:49] <llutz> John_John_: you started a new shell "sh" which most likely is a link to dash (a posix conform shell)
[20:49] <geirha> right, you ran the sh shell, which is dash by default.
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: if you type: sh           in the terminal it will run the default shell (/bin/sh) which is a symlink to dash.
[20:49] <geirha> John_John_: If you type exit, you'll get back to your default shell
[20:50] <John_John_> what is the difference of the default shell and the dash ?
[20:50] <rpcesar> having some issues could really use some help. I have a dual monitor setup. I use wine and one of the times I used wine it attempted to change the display settings. this shrunk the resolution of display monitor two, and removed the option for anything above 800x600 on it. so i disabled it thinking I would re-enable it
[20:50] <rannonga> bash is better
[20:50] <rpcesar> but now nothing, and i mean NOTHING is detecting that second monitor
[20:50] <llutz> John_John_: different shells
[20:50] <rpcesar> ive tried everything, including swapping lightvm and gdm
[20:51] <chiluk> John_John dash is faster for some purposes because it has fewer features
[20:51] <geirha> John_John_: dash is also a usable interactive shell, however the one in Ubuntu has many such features disabled, to make it faster for boot scripts and similar
[20:51] <nullfaith> When I run xephyr, to draw a window of 1920x1080, it does the same thing geirha. It stops short because of the gnome panel at the top, not allowing it to cover.
[20:51] <chiluk> jynx geirha
[20:51] <rpcesar> ive tried displays, i have 650GTX and I tried nvidia settings. everything is showing just 1 screen
[20:51] <rpcesar> i cannot get the 2nd monitor to switch on again
[20:51] <John_John_> is there a paticular reason to run things in dash ?
[20:51] <geirha> John_John_: But the main difference is that bash has many more features than dash
[20:52] <rww> John_John_: dash is faster, but has fewer features. bash is slower, but has more
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: dash is a posix is very much the same as bash, but on;y features the posix compliant commands. it runs about 20 times faster, but is not user friendly. (no history, no backspace, no friendly prompt). its used for scripts rather than anything else
[20:52] <rww> John_John_: scripts that call /bin/sh are supposed to only use POSIX interfaces, which dash implements
[20:52] <rpcesar> any ideas people?
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> s/dash is a posix/dash
[20:52] <nullfaith> geirha: So is there maybe a way to auto-hide/remove that gnome panel up top? Or a way to get xephyr to cover it?
[20:52] <leo-the-manic> Is there something special I should do when using dots in my hostname? Rabbitmq keeps failing to launch when connecting to "foo", but my hostname is "foo.bar.com"
[20:53] <John_John_> you keep saying POSIX. what is that ?
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> leo-the-manic: you should not have dots in your hostname(that reffers to your fullyqualified domain name instead)
[20:53] <llutz> John_John_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX  http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Bash_vs_dash
[20:53] <geirha> nullfaith: Yes, instead of having it run an xsession like gnome, you can have it run that one program you wanted to run. No window manager, no panels. I don't remember the syntax though. Would have to read the docs (like man-pages)
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX
[20:54] <chiluk> John_John_  stick with bash for interactive shells you will be happier for it.
[20:54] <nullfaith> The man page for xephyr is like 4 lines, I did read it heh.
[20:54] <John_John_> ok guys really thanks for the explanations
[20:54] <leo-the-manic> hitsujiTMO: So is the hostname something I'm essentially free to make up? Or does it have to correspond to my domain name somehow?
[20:54] <geirha> nullfaith: oh wait, you mean the "outer" Xserver has the panel in the way?
[20:55] <chiluk> John_John_ if you really want to know about posix, I suggest google/wikipedia... it's really just a standards body...
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> leo-the-manic: yes it can be anything. but normally you would have it as the first part of the fqdn. i.e. if your fqdn is foo.bar.com then you'd have foo as hostname
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> leo-the-manic: this will explain how you set up both http://askubuntu.com/questions/158957/how-to-set-the-fully-qualified-domain-name-in-12-04
[20:56] <geirha> John_John_: unix split into many different OSes over the years, and they all added new features, independantly, and so it became hard to move between them
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> leo-the-manic: but if you wanted you could have: server1.foo.com as fdqn and nodejs as hostname
[20:57] <John_John_> aha
[20:57] <geirha> John_John_: On one system, you'd use this command, on another, you'd have to use that command to achieve the same, so POSIX was born as a way of getting a standard way of doing things.
[20:58] <John_John_> and i also know that most unix systems are proprietary also
[20:58] <geirha> John_John_: So POSIX says that sh should have at least this and that feature. As long as the shell at /bin/sh has those features, it's free to add any other features it may like.
[20:58] <John_John_> True64 for example
[20:59] <jcbjoe> guys can i install ubuntu on a nexus 7
[20:59] <geirha> John_John_: that's why both dash and bash are POSIX shells. They have that common subset of features. But since dash has much less (extended) features, it's much faster at loading.
[20:59] <jcbjoe> not ubuntu touch
[20:59] <attrapereves> I am unable to open firefox. I am getting this error since an upgrade this morning.
[20:59] <John_John_> geirha: now i got it right :)
[20:59] <attrapereves> GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[20:59] <attrapereves> Segmentation fault
[20:59] <rpcesar> anyone?
[21:00] <John_John_> geirha: not only at loading but also in executing things tight ?
[21:00] <geirha> nullfaith: come to think of it, you can probably just tell your window manager to move the xephyr window above the panel
[21:00] <stratus_ss> is there anyone about who can talk with me aboutpackaging
[21:01] <geirha> John_John_: There shouldn't be much difference at executing things.
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> attrapereves: try: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[21:01] <ovoodoo> What's the ubuntu for phone channel?
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> !touch | ovoodoo
[21:02] <rww> oooooo: #ubuntu-touch
[21:02] <rww> or whatever your nick is
[21:03] <rww> ovoodoo there we go
[21:03] <ovoodoo> thx
[21:03] <attrapereves> hitsujiTMO, Same error still
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> attrapereves: please run: strace -ff firefox 2>&1 | grep " = -1 EACCES"
[21:03] <ovoodoo> no one there
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> ovoodoo: its quiet there be patient
[21:05] <attrapereves> hitsujiTMO, I ran it as my user and I got Permission denied.
[21:05] <Arceye> After  very shaky start and my dismissive attitude towards linux I can now happily report it will be the full time replacement for winXP on this PC and one of my laptops
[21:05] <attrapereves> hitsujiTMO, However, Firefox did open as root.
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> attrapereves: did you run ff with sudo before this all happened?
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> attrapereves: can you pastebin any trace that came out formt hat command
[21:07] <attrapereves> hitsujiTMO, Actually, no. However, it does open as root.
[21:07] <nullfaith> Sorry, kid turned off the pc heh.
[21:07] <attrapereves> Still get the same error though.
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> attrapereves: exact same error? or what was the permission denied?
[21:08] <attrapereves> hitsujiTMO, I get: (process:3081): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[21:08] <attrapereves> But FF does open
[21:09] <nullfaith> Has anyone else in here removed or autohid gnome panel in ubuntu 13.10?
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> attrapereves: and no other error with you run: strace -ff firefox 2>&1 | grep " = -1 EACCES"             ???
[21:10] <attrapereves> hitsujiTMO, As non-root, I get
[21:10] <attrapereves> [pid  3183] <... ioctl resumed> , 0x7fff7a1258d0) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[21:10] <attrapereves> However, as root I get no error.
[21:13] <attrapereves> hitsujiTMO, Any thougts?
[21:14] <Corvette> So today I was sitting in class and I saw that Ubuntu wanted to do 25 updates. And, wanting to always have the latest software, I took the bait and let it to its thing. And I have no idea why I did that, because everything was working before I did, but now I can't connect to wifi networks. I know there was a kernel update, so I selected the previous version from GRUB and booted with that, but still the same thing. And the same thing with the version befo
[21:14] <Corvette> re that, too. Is there a way I can find out which packages were changed TODAY, and restore them all to their previous versions?
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> attrapereves: it is as i assumed a permission issue. just trying to think of where the permission may be wrong
[21:14] <attrapereves> hitsujiTMO, if it helps, I am also unable to open chrome
[21:15] <presto0> how do i check
[21:15] <presto0> how much free ram i have
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> presto0: cat /etc/issue
[21:15] <nullfaith> presto0: htop
[21:15] <presto0> i dont see the ram there
[21:15] <nullfaith> Very nice util.
[21:16] <presto0> not working htop command
[21:16] <attrapereves> presto0, I use "top"
[21:16] <presto0> top works
[21:16] <attrapereves> or "free"
[21:16] <presto0> looks like windows manager
[21:17] <presto0> i am not sure about how many free ram do i have..
[21:18] <attrapereves> presto0, when you run "free" you should see the Mem: line
[21:18] <attrapereves> look under "free" column
[21:18] <presto0> 1460
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> presto0: since you're using centos this is the wrong place to be asking such commands as they may differ between the distros
[21:18] <hewhomust> free -m is also good
[21:18] <presto0> oh come on, 99% of linux commands are the same
[21:18] <presto0> ohhh
[21:18] <presto0> -m = mb
[21:18] <presto0> much better
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> presto0: """<presto0> not working htop command"""  <- case in point
[21:19] <presto0> yeahp perfect,
[21:19] <presto0> hahha
[21:19] <presto0> well okey
[21:19] <presto0> i have 1 free mb of ram
[21:19] <presto0> is that possible?
[21:19] <Corvette> Is there any way I can find out which packages were changed on today's date, and change them back?
[21:20] <krababbel> Corvette: you mean by an upgrade of packages?
[21:20] <sleepie^^> hi
[21:21] <Corvette> krababbel what?
[21:21] <krababbel> Corvette: what change do you mean
[21:21] <Corvette> krababbel Yes several packages were changed today by Ubuntu's built-in updater.
[21:22] <krababbel> Corvette: in /var/log/apt/history there should be a log of changes
[21:22] <Corvette> krababbel what do I use to see that, gedit/
[21:22]  * nullfaith bangs his head into the desk.
[21:24] <krababbel> Corvette: its just a textfile
[21:24] <krababbel> Corvette: also you can install previous versions of packages, yes
[21:25] <Corvette> krababbel, take a look at this
[21:25] <Corvette> http://pastebin.com/zwaHX6pU
[21:26] <Corvette> Is there a command I can use to return all of these packages to previous versions instead of trying to do it one by one in synaptic manager
[21:34] <Beldar> shecki, #wine maybe
[21:35] <shecki> Beldar thx :)
[21:35] <bazhang> #winehq is the channel
[21:35] <Beldar> Yeah #wine is a invite my bad
[21:36] <shecki> #wine directly goes to #winehq :)
[21:39] <Corvette> Well apparently it's working on the guest network but not the secure network. The secure network uses MSCHAPV2 and that's always given me huge problems with Ubuntu, but it's been working all semester thus far until today... you know what, I'll just stick with the insecure network
[21:44] <genii> Hm.
[21:53] <akumar> :q
[21:53] <anothermoron> After installing ubuntu in vmware, the OS always start in a console (tty2) and the gnome interface is on tty7, is there a way to always boot right onto tty7 ?
[21:57] <saniblues> what's the command for killing an application
[21:58] <saniblues> i would look it up myself but firefox is frozen
[21:58] <cypher-neo> saniblues, If it's a window that is frozen, you can use xkill
[21:58] <cypher-neo> saniblues, Otherwise look up the PID number of the program and "kill [pid]"
[22:00] <saniblues> cypher-neo, thanks
[22:03] <hippiehunter> im having an awful time trying to get anything that uses rpcbind to work, /etc/services is the default and has all of the services im trying to use but all i ever get is "Servname not supported for ai_sockettype" (for ntpdate) or "unable to set any sockets for nfsd" (for nfs-kernel-server-start)
[22:07] <hippiehunter> im having an awful time trying to get anything that uses rpcbind to work, /etc/services is the default and has all of the services im trying to use but all i ever get is "Servname not supported for ai_sockettype" (for ntpdate) or "unable to set any sockets for nfsd" (for nfs-kernel-server-start)
[22:11] <rabar> Hello. I have an ATI graphics card with drivers installed and connected to two projectors. How can I present the two projects as a single large desktop to Ubuntu?
[22:12] <raj> ubuntu uses dash?
[22:12] <raj> thought it used bash
[22:13] <genii> raj: ls -l /bin/sh  gives: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Feb 19 07:13 /bin/sh -> dash
[22:14] <raj> interesting, thanks genii
[22:14] <Jordan_U> raj: The default shell for users in Ubuntu is bash. The default provider of /bin/sh is dash.
[22:14] <raj> really?
[22:14] <raj> why?
[22:14] <bekks> why not?
[22:14] <Jordan_U> raj: Because dash is faster than bash for POSIX sh scripts.
[22:14] <raj> bekks, how do I see you everywhere
[22:15] <raj> then why not use dash as the default shell?
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> raj it is. not not in user land as its not user friendly
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> s/not not/just not
[22:16] <raj> so in what land?
[22:16] <Jordan_U> raj: Because users expect more out of their interactive shell than a POSIX sh interpreter.
[22:17] <hippiehunter> im having an awful time trying to get anything that uses rpcbind to work, /etc/services is the default and has all of the services im trying to use but all i ever get is "Servname not supported for ai_sockettype" (for ntpdate) or "unable to set any sockets for nfsd" (for nfs-kernel-server-start) anyone have any pointers on where i should be looking ive been googling pretty much the entire day
[22:17] <raj> ok, so what uses sh/dash in ubuntu?
[22:18] <Jordan_U> raj: Any script whose first line is #!/bin/sh.
[22:18] <raj> right
[22:18] <Jordan_U> raj: Which includes many init scripts.
[22:18] <raj> ah, I see
[22:18] <quants> evening guys and Girls, Im having trouble getting all the updates to load using sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. and advice?
[22:18] <raj> thanks for the answers fellas :)
[22:19] <Jordan_U> quants: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[22:19] <quants> will do Jordan_U
[22:22] <akumar> cc
[22:25] <chro> hi. How can I list all processes that start on boot?
[22:26] <chro> In particular I want to remove a certain process from starting all time
[22:27] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO, ?
[22:28] <ash__> i tried to change the startup sound in 13.10 and it still plays the bongos
[22:28] <ash__> where is the bongo sound so i can just overwrite it?
[22:28] <quants> #Jordan_U W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-amd64_Packages) W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-amd64_Packages) W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://arch
[22:29] <Arceye>  chro  go to Settings Manager - Session and Startup - Application AutoStart TAB
[22:29] <mikemonk> is trusty a daily driver right now?
[22:29] <quants> cock it! i hate this thing :/
[22:30] <Beldar> mikemonk, Daily driver? it is a development till april.
[22:31] <mikemonk> Beldar, i know... however last time i gave it a ride... it was fairly stable... i'm not sure how likely is that an update could break it
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[22:32] <Beldar> mikemonk, 14.04 has a channel it is #ubuntu+1
[22:32] <mikemonk> Beldar, better to stay with saucy then?
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[22:33] <Beldar> mikemonk, Do what you want I have both.
[22:34] <mikemonk> Beldar, lol don't have that hardware luxury...
[22:36] <doomlord_> keyboard layout issue... UK razer  ... when I select "En" i see the key in the bottomleft thats supposed to be "\" as 'level' in the keyboard layout chart, and it doesn't work.  (i can get the full range of characters by using US layout option, but thats a bit confusing :) )
[22:36] <doomlord_> is there something i can do to get that key working
[22:37] <grisza> hi
[22:38] <grisza> how can i install linux on linux by flash mem., I have not the same bios on startup
[22:39] <grisza> how can i run pendrive on startup system ?
[22:39] <tmmunq> run it?
[22:40] <grisza> i want to install linux
[22:40] <tmmunq> from usb?
[22:40] <doomlord_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1641742   <<< this is the same as my keyboard issue
[22:40] <grisza> yep
[22:40] <chro> In particular I want to remove a certain process from starting all time. through the command line
[22:40] <tmmunq> do you already have ubuntu on a usb drive?
[22:40] <grisza> yes
[22:41] <tmmunq> but it wont boot or you dont know how to boot it?
[22:41] <grisza> i dont know
[22:42] <tmmunq> when you try to boot what happens?
[22:42] <quants> guys why cant i use pastebin? am i being thick?
[22:43] <Sir_Leto> anyone know how I could figure out what has changed with my kernel makes  my system freeze afterlogin?
[22:43] <Sir_Leto> I know it's a kernel issue because older kernels work
[22:43] <grisza> when i start laptop and click f4 i dont know how boot usb to read instalation
[22:43] <Beldar> !pastebin | quants
[22:44] <tmmunq> f4 is supposed to get to the boot menu?
[22:44] <grisza> bioss ?
[22:44] <quants> sorry im a newb
[22:44] <Kubius> hi guys
[22:45] <Kubius> I have a computer with an nvidia graphics card running xubuntu but I haven't been able to get sufficient help on #nvidia or on #xubuntu
[22:46] <Kubius> I'm having a problem with an HDMI TV I'm using with a DVI-to-HDMI converter
[22:46] <Kubius> The edges of the desktop are clipped off
[22:47] <quants> Guys im trying to sort this out, any advice? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968055/
[22:47] <Kubius> too many join/leave messages to get support here lol
[22:48] <Beldar> Kubius, check your irc clients preferences
[22:48] <Kubius> there fixed that
[22:48] <Kubius> now
[22:48] <Kubius> I'm having a problem with an HDMI TV connected to my computer via a DVI to HDMI converter
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968055/
[22:49] <Kubius> the borders of the desktop are missing
[22:49] <chemist^> it was a netsplit
[22:49] <chemist^> it happens...
[22:49] <Kubius> as in, the desktop seems slightly larger than the monitor
[22:49] <chemist^> Kubius, resolution?
[22:49] <Kubius> 1920x1080
[22:49] <chemist^> oh yeah
[22:49] <Kubius> It's an overscan related issue, I think
[22:49] <chemist^> try that thing...
[22:49] <chemist^> screen ratio
[22:49] <chemist^> full, normal
[22:50] <Kubius> I've tried the stuff from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2090914
[22:50] <grisza> ok i download ubuntu.iso and open and on unpack pendrive, how can i run installation on startup ???
[22:50] <chemist^> Kubius, is it a TV?
[22:50] <Kubius> yes
[22:50] <chemist^> sony?
[22:50] <Kubius> sansui
[22:50] <Kubius> :/
[22:50] <chemist^> well doesn't matter
[22:50] <chemist^> check the button on the TV remote
[22:50] <Kubius> no disable overscan option that I can find
[22:50] <chemist^> for screen sizing
[22:50] <OerHeks> grisza, you don't unpack the iso, just use an usb-tool to make the usb bootable with the iso
[22:51] <Kubius> the TV did not come with a remote
[22:51] <chemist^> trust me i had the same problem ...
[22:51] <chemist^> tv without remote? lol
[22:51] <Kubius> TV config does not include anything about overscan
[22:51] <Kubius> there's two "screen size" options
[22:51] <Kubius> cinema and full
[22:51] <Bashing-om> quants: Ya need to look at the files "/etc/apt/sources.list" and the files in the directory "/ext/apt/sources.list.d" and find the duplicated entry(s) // remember to make a backup of any file you edit.
[22:51] <OerHeks> grisza, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu or http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[22:51] <chemist^> Kubius, ok, have you tried them both?
[22:51] <Kubius> full is bad and cinema makes it even worse
[22:52] <chemist^> hm
[22:52] <Kubius> it's on full now
[22:52] <chemist^> only these 2 you have?
[22:52] <Kubius> yes, yoda
[22:52] <chemist^> then a nother resolution you try ;D
[22:52] <Beldar> grisza, If you loaded the usb correctly there are two boot options 1 change the usb to first read in the bios, 2 there is a per-boot session boot from menu gotten two with a key prompt like you would the bios, mine is f12.
[22:52] <Kubius> I tried setting it to 1680x1050 with ar&r
[22:53] <Kubius> screen went weird hashy
[22:53] <Kubius> different ratio perhaps?
[22:53] <OerHeks> Beldar, sounds like grisza unpacked the iso
[22:53] <chemist^> Kubius, perhaps
[22:53] <grisza> yes i unpack
[22:53] <grisza> ...;p
[22:53] <vfsm> hello all
[22:53] <Beldar> OerHeks, Hard to tell exactly, but yeah.
[22:53] <quants> Bashing-om ok how do i make a backup? sorry im a newn, still learning.
[22:53] <chemist^> Kubius, try them all and see if any fits the screen as it should
[22:54] <vfsm> i have problem with colour of file in the ubuntu terminal, as esecutive is not green but white as all
[22:54] <duckx0r> I have a computer running Ubuntu 13.10 and as soon as it gets past GRUB, it's like the power is turned off on the USB devices. The keyboard and mouse lights go off almost immediately and nothing USB works past GRUB, however in GRUB and in the BIOS they work fine. Could this be a software issue or is it definitely hardware.
[22:55] <Jordan_U> grisza: What OS are you using to create the bootable USB drive?
[22:55] <chemist^> duckx0r, you may have disabled these devices in your BIOS settings some time earlier?
[22:55] <Bashing-om> quants: No problem, at one time we all were, that is no sin ! .. 1st find the duplication so we know which file to backup. If ya need pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list ...
[22:55] <duckx0r> chemist^, I just checked and no. I even restored the "optimal defaults"
[22:55] <Kubius> Interesting
[22:56] <Kubius> I tried 1360x768 (because it has a nearly exactly the same aspect ratio) and no overscan
[22:56] <chemist^> i use that resolution on my tv
[22:56] <Kubius> well
[22:56] <Kubius> thanks for the helps
[22:56] <Kubius> this works quite well now
[22:56] <Kubius> bye
[22:57] <chemist^> yes i find it better than 1080 cause i use from a little more far away
[22:58] <Jordan_U> quants: What you posted was the complete output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"? There was no other output?
[22:58] <Bashing-om> quants: load /etc/apt/sources.list -> like this for NONediting; terminal command gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ...
[22:58] <jcbjoe> ubuntu core linux / does anyone run this on a tablet or phone and if so is it easy to install / navigate ?
[23:00] <jakob__> Hello, I have a big issue. After installing Ubuntu daily from a unetbootin, i got a beta of ubuntu 14.04 which i din't expect. worst of all - the live mode is working perfectly, as the installation is horrible
[23:00] <jakob__> no mouse activity
[23:00] <jakob__> need help urgent
[23:01] <Beldar> !14.04 | jakob__
[23:01] <UltimateNate> Why do i keep seeing disk quota exceeded error and how do i fix?
[23:01] <Jordan_U> jakob__: "Daily Build" means that day's snapshot of the *Development version* of Ubuntu.
[23:02] <Jordan_U> jakob__: If that's not what you want, then you should install a stable version of Ubuntu instead.
[23:02] <quants> Jordan_U Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968102/ i cant get the full output as i cleared the screen oops :(
[23:03] <Jordan_U> quants: Then re-run the command so that you can post the full output.
[23:03] <Bashing-om> quants: looking at your **8102
[23:03] <UltimateNate> Hello?
[23:03] <ajoul> what DOES SUDO APT-GET UPGRADE DO?
[23:03] <UltimateNate> Why do i keep seeing disk quota exceeded error and how do i fix?
[23:03] <jakob__> Jordab_U what do i do now? the live version is working without issues - after the installation everything is miserable
[23:03] <Jordan_U> ajoul: Please don't use all caps.
[23:03] <chemist^> ajoul, updates installed software and other stuff
[23:03] <bekks> ajoul: It install updates to currently installed packages. It does not upgrade to a newer Ubuntu release.
[23:04] <Jordan_U> jakob__: Install Ubuntu 12.04 or 13.10.
[23:04] <jakob__> Jordan_U is there a way to do it from the live version - got only one pc
[23:04] <Jordan_U> jakob__: Can you burn a CD?
[23:05] <jakob__> nope. no cd unit in the pc
[23:05] <chemist^> :D
[23:05] <Jordan_U> jakob__: Do you have another USB drive?
[23:05] <jakob__> maybe
[23:05] <jakob__> sudo su install unetbootin and than put it on the other flashdrive?
[23:06] <Jordan_U> jakob__: Don't ever run "sudo su", it's just silly.
[23:06] <chemist^> sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[23:06] <Bashing-om> quants: Back up and regroup: the commnad is "cat /etc/apt/sources.list ->> Code:  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[23:06] <jakob__> im in a live version, do you think it's gonna install it just like that Jordan_U
[23:07] <Guest20013> #ubuntu-install
[23:07] <chemist^> jakob__, so you're using a live version of ubuntu on an USB?
[23:08] <jakob__> yes
[23:08] <chemist^> does it have additional space?
[23:08] <Jordan_U> jakob__: I expect that "Startup Disk Creator" is available by default in the live environment, and "sudo apt-get install foo" will work just fine from the live environment as well.
[23:08] <jakob__> it's 8gb
[23:08] <chemist^> you can add persistence
[23:08] <chemist^> and use it to save settings and documents
[23:09] <Jordan_U> jakob__: So download Ubuntu 12.04 or 13.10, load it onto your other USB drive, boot from your other USB drive, and install Ubuntu.
[23:09] <UltimateNate> Why do i keep seeing disk quota exceeded error and how do i fix?
[23:09] <chemist^> !persistence | jakob__
[23:09] <UltimateNate> Hello?
[23:09] <jakob__> chemist^  but i need an install on the drive
[23:10] <chemist^> you need an install on the drive? i don't understand
[23:10] <quants> Bashing-om Jordan_U ill postbit that next step Bashing soon http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968139/
[23:10] <jakob__> chemist^  yes but when installed this ubuntu s*&^*&^ks
[23:10] <jakob__> when live it works fine
[23:11] <chemist^> !usb
[23:11] <hexacode> hey does anyone know why this page on the top right, doesnt have pangolin?  https://packages.debian.org/hu/wheezy/xen-linux-system-amd64
[23:11] <Bashing-om> quants: looking at your **8139 .
[23:11] <chemist^> there you go jakob__
[23:11] <chemist^> read this:
[23:11] <chemist^> !usb | jakob__
[23:11] <UltimateNate> Why nobody is listining to me?
[23:11] <hexacode> why no 12.04 LTS version of xen-linux-system? or is that in some other repo i dont know about
[23:11] <Jordan_U> chemist^: jakob__ accidentally installed a development version of Ubuntu instead of a stable one, and now their installed system doesn't work (understandable since it's a development version), so they need to use their current development LiveUSB environment to create a LiveUSB of a supported Ubuntu.
[23:12] <jakob__> chemist^  i installed 14.04
[23:12] <UltimateNate> Hello?
[23:12] <chemist^> Jordan_U, ok :) thanks
[23:13] <chemist^> so what he basically needs is another usb
[23:13] <UltimateNate> Why do i keep seeing disk quota exceeded error and how do i fix?
[23:13] <chemist^> jakob__, do you have another usb ready?
[23:13] <UltimateNate> Cmon
[23:13] <jakob__> chemist^  than after the install and restart it started lagging, i couldn't use the mouse and so on. on the live cd everything is working fine, but on the install its lagging and not working, i want to fix it not to reinstall
[23:14] <Jordan_U> quants: It looks like "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is working just fine, your system is up to date. If you're trying to upgrade to a newer Ubuntu release then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is *not* the tool you want.
[23:14] <quants> Bashing-om Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968166/
[23:14] <chemist^> jakob__, you will fix this by installing a stable version
[23:14] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | quants
[23:14] <Jordan_U> !pm | grisza
[23:14] <Bashing-om> quants: looking at your 8166 .
[23:15] <jakob__> chemist^  but why doesn't it work than, when functioning in live mode and not on the hdd
[23:15] <chemist^> jakob__, make another liveusb with a stable version of ubuntu
[23:15] <grisza> Startup Disk Creator i using this now
[23:15] <grisza>  but i have one problem and trying again
[23:15] <chemist^> jakob__, i don't know, maybe you messed up something during the installation
[23:15] <UltimateNate> Why do i keep seeing disk quota exceeded error and how do i fix?
[23:15] <jakob__> ok so i will try a new install of the 14.04 and i will get a usb tmrw mornig
[23:16] <chemist^> jakob__, 14.04?
[23:17]  * PocketDog googles 14.04 release in a panic
[23:17] <chemist^> jakob__, i don't believe it is already released...
[23:17] <chemist^> PocketDog, :D
[23:17] <jakob__> chemist^  yes, cause if it works life as well as it does - than it should be working well on the regular hdd
[23:17] <jakob__> that's what the installer says
[23:17] <UltimateNate> I need help! Stop ignoring me
[23:17] <chemist^> jakob__, 14.04 has not been released yet
[23:17] <jakob__> that's what unetbootin gave me
[23:18] <chemist^> correct me if i'm wrong everyone :D
[23:18] <UltimateNate> Hello?
[23:18] <quants> Bashing-om Jordan_U thanks guys, working on it now.
[23:18] <grisza> ubottu, Jordan booting is ok now restart and f12 and usb first ?
[23:18] <UltimateNate> How am i supposed get help if everyone is ignoring me?
[23:18] <PocketDog> UltimateNate, I don't know, if somebody knows they won't ignore you; they'll tell you
[23:18] <chemist^> jakob__, why don't you install 12.04.4 LTS?
[23:19] <racer0940> I need to turn "jordan" off for my ping list...
[23:19] <bekks> UltimateNate: "disk quota exceeded" mean you are over the quota limit. The only solution is to delete unncesessary files to get below that limit.
[23:19] <PocketDog> see
[23:19] <UltimateNate> I tried to remove stuff
[23:19] <UltimateNate> But it throws a error
[23:19] <Bashing-om> quants: Got it ! lines 61 and 62 are duplicates of line 55. make a backup of the file prior to editing. TBC.
[23:19] <jakob__> chemist^  i need an os now, not tmrw - tmrw is drinking time and i am working over the weekend
[23:19] <UltimateNate> And i got to use sudo dpkg --configure -a to use the terminal for removal
[23:19] <UltimateNate> So im basicly stucked
[23:19] <bekks> UltimateNate: And we have to guess the error? :)
[23:19] <grisza> #ubotuu booting is ok now restart and f12 and usb first
[23:20] <UltimateNate> Is there a way to bypass quota?
[23:20] <grisza> #ubotuu-ops booting is ok now restart and f12 and usb first ?
[23:20] <UltimateNate> Like i can bypass quota and finish?
[23:20] <sdsf> Hi! I just installed ubutu studio 13.10 and after reboot it took me  instantly to GRUB CLI. I was told that studio doesn't support UEFI yet, but its listed in the boot menu under UEFI. What am i supposed to do to get it running?
[23:21] <jakob__> chemist^  i found out what's the problem. i requested a beta to work in a language different than english. that's the logical solution
[23:21] <UltimateNate> This is the error i get when deleting something from the trash
[23:22] <UltimateNate> Failed to delete item from the trash
[23:22] <DamienRed94> Hey, anyone know any cool ubuntu tweaks/utilies to install to someone new to liunx? im using linux mint
[23:22] <DamienRed94> based on ubuntu
[23:22] <DamienRed94> kde desktop
[23:22] <bekks> UltimateNate: If yoyu are the admin of the host, the you can disable the quota entirely.
[23:23] <UltimateNate> I just need to bypass it
[23:23] <jakob__> DamienRed94  I'd recommend some books for that
[23:23] <bekks> UltimateNate: You cannot bypass it. You can disable it of you are the admin of the host.
[23:23] <UltimateNate> What about increasing it?
[23:24] <bekks> UltimateNate: You can increase it if you are the admin of the host.
[23:24] <UltimateNate> How do i do that?
[23:24] <grisza> guys i boot my usb but how run installation on startup system ? ? ?
[23:24] <quants> Bashing-om Jordan_U guys im now running 12.04 LTS, should i update that?
[23:24] <bekks> UltimateNate: Like this, e.g.: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/07/disk-quota/
[23:24] <chemist^> DamienRed94, compiz-fusion
[23:25] <Jordan_U> grisza: There should be an option at boot to install Ubuntu.
[23:25] <Bashing-om> quants: If you have completed the edit to the fetch file, yes ! -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade .
[23:25] <Jordan_U> !mint | DamienRed94
[23:26] <Bashing-om> quants: that only updates the packages that are installed to latest versions for release 12.04 !
[23:26] <grisza> Jordan_U open boot is f4 ?
[23:26] <Jordan_U> quants: Do you need a newer release of Ubuntu?
[23:26] <quants> Bashing-om not sure i know how to edit the file sorry :(
[23:26] <Jordan_U> grisza: I don't understand your question.
[23:27] <UltimateNate> I cant even run my Browser
[23:27] <quants> Jordan_U not sure? is there any point? i have 12.04 LTS seems fine to me??
[23:27] <bekks> UltimateNate: Are you the admin of that host?
[23:28] <UltimateNate> Probably
[23:28] <Bashing-om> quants: Not a problem to assist. .. ok, make a backup -> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list-bad . TBC
[23:28] <UltimateNate> Can you just tell me the command to do it?
[23:28] <bekks> UltimateNate: Do you have permissions to use sudo -i ?
[23:28] <UltimateNate> the root? yea
[23:28] <Jordan_U> quants: If you're happy with 12.04 LTS then stick with it.
[23:29] <bekks> UltimateNate: Then delete your unnecessary files as root - but be careful, very careful.
[23:29] <UltimateNate> How do i do that?
[23:29] <UltimateNate> Whats so cautious?
[23:29] <bekks> UltimateNate: As root, you can entirely trash your whole system when deleting the wrong files.
[23:30] <quants> clear
[23:30] <bekks> UltimateNate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:31] <Bashing-om> quants: clear as in done ? ready for the editing of the file ?
[23:31] <quants> clear as in i thought i was typing into the terminal oops
[23:33] <Bashing-om> quants: lol, ok.. awaiting the go ahead for the next step after the file is copied (cp) . patience is a good thing.
[23:34] <om26er> how can i check from the terminal if my wifi is on or no ?
[23:34] <om26er> same for bluetooth
[23:35] <User2> exit
[23:35] <quants> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968230/
[23:35] <DoYouKnow> n
[23:35] <Bashing-om> quants: looking at 8230 .
[23:36] <UltimateNate> Where do i locate my trash when rooted?
[23:37] <AssociateX> Hello channel!
[23:37] <bekks> UltimateNate: /home/username/.local/share/Trash
[23:38] <AssociateX> I have a jvc camcorder model gr-d770u, point me to what I should read, thank you.
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: the manual?         kinda helps if you tell us what you actually want to do
[23:39] <Bashing-om> quants: OK, that command as is, is not complete, the complete command is as was given -> "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list-bad" where -/etc/apt/spurces.list-bad- is the "destination" .
[23:39] <UltimateNate> disk quota error is back
[23:41] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, hmm, I thought that was implied, but assume too much sometimes. I want my camera to work with my ubuntu laptop, specifically, I want to get video off of my camera onto my laptop that is running ubuntu.
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: what happens when you plug it in via usb?
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> does it offer itself up as an mpt or external drive?
[23:43] <AssociateX> nothing. but lsusb says: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f2:b3a6 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
[23:43] <asdfasdfasdf> Hi
[23:43] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, no
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: hmm, thats bad news. ok can you pastebin the output of: lsusb
[23:45] <asdfasdfasdf> I have a question I have a vps and I tried installing java and it says E: Could not find package openjdk-7-jdk , What do i do to fix this??? if this is not the right area for this question then tell me where to go if there is a place to go for this support
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: and also: dmesg
[23:46] <quants> Bashing-om im lost? i think im putting in what your asking? sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968255/
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> asdfasdfasdf: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[23:46] <basketball> how do i open a file from terminal
[23:46] <asdfasdfasdf> il go check
[23:46] <wafflejock> basketball: open with what?
[23:47] <wafflejock> basketball: you start with the program you want to open then give a path ordinarily
[23:47] <basketball> like a read file
[23:48] <wafflejock> cat someFile.txt
[23:48] <Jordan_U> basketball: What do you mean by "read"? What is your end goal?
[23:48] <asdfasdfasdf> It says Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS \n \l
[23:48] <wafflejock> ^ that will print it to console
[23:48] <basketball> to open up the file in a text editor
[23:48] <Jordan_U> basketball: Which text editor?
[23:49] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, oh derp, the line about the Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd is my webcam. There is nothing that shows up for the JVC camcorder.
[23:49] <Bashing-om> quants: looking at 8255 . Hey, this is no big deal, do not get in a sweat !
[23:49] <wafflejock> basketball: if you want to edit a file you can use any number of text editors (gedit, kate, vi, vim, nano, sublime, geany)
[23:49] <UltimateNate> Why its like No Disk Quota Error but then Disk Quota error
[23:49] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: yu may need to change modes on the camcorder
[23:49] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, would you still like the pastebin?
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> you\8
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: please pastebin aswell
[23:50] <AssociateX> will do.
[23:51] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, http://www.pastebin.ca/2644830
[23:51] <AssociateX> I will look at the modes right now.
[23:51] <tripelb2> I have a 12.04 problem. This keeps happening > flashplugin-installer ..."requested additional data downloads after package installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed." I saw Terminal open but whatever was expected to happen didnt.
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> asdfasdfasdf: that version of ubuntu doesn't have that version of openjdk in the repo
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: yup defo nothing there.
[23:52] <asdfasdfasdf> msg hitsujiTMO does that mean it cant run java 7
[23:53] <asdfasdfasdf> fail
[23:53] <Bashing-om> quants: Looks like it did the copy, let's check and make sure, pastebin -> ls -la /etc/atpt/ <- to show me. Ask questions and ya get answers.
[23:53] <hitsujiTMO> asdfasdfasdf: no you can
[23:55] <grisza> Jordan_U   I change BIOSS on usb first , but when i restart is write "boot error"
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> asdfasdfasdf: use this ppa to install the oracle java 7 https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[23:56] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, I did not find anything about modes. What should I be looking for?
[23:56] <quants> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968278/
[23:57] <Bashing-om> quants: looking at 8278
[23:58] <Bashing-om> quants: I did a typo !! .. correct to be ls -la /etc/apt/ ....
[23:59] <damagna_> !dpi
[23:59] <damagna_> i just purchased a new thinkpad with a really high res screen. How can I increase the dpi on 13.04?