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desrtdarkxst: hey... just installed ubuntu gnome trusty alpha 2... looking nice.00:40
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darkxstdesrt, thanks ;)07:28
Laneymorning09:05
seb128Laney, hey, how are you?09:12
seb128good morning desktopers, happy post-ff friday!09:12
Laneyhey seb128, I'm alright thanks09:12
Laneybeen rearranging the sitting room because rosie bought a piano which is coming today ...09:12
Laneysuch jenkins spam09:13
Laneyhow are you?09:13
seb128I'm good thanks, looking forward having (hopefully) a quiet friday, after the ff crazyness09:16
seb128oh, a piano, nice ;-)09:16
Laneynot that I play or read music :P09:17
Laneyexcept the final fantasty fanfare, I can do that one09:17
seb128haha09:17
didrockswe didn't do that for the wedding, but were tempted :p09:21
seb128you geeks!09:21
didrocksthat would have been too obvious, hiding those 3 musics was better :)09:22
sil2100It's nice to see so many FF-fans here ;) And I don't mean feature freeze!09:26
didrocksheh09:26
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didrocksapart from the 11 and 14 (mmorpg), I played them all but the 4, what I need to fix :)09:26
Laneyseb128: just saw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/128284709:27
ubot2Launchpad bug 1282847 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "desktop ui scale is huge even though the setting is set to a scale of 1" [Undecided,Confirmed]09:27
seb128Laney, seems like NOTABUG09:27
sil2100By 4 you mean the original 4th game? With Kain? I played that one on the emulator in my FF-madness youth09:28
seb128Laney, but yeah, for some reason the Unity scaling seems to not work09:28
seb128Trevinho_, bregma: ^ is that known?09:28
Laneyhis terminal looks a bit big to me, but yeah the ui should be matching anyway09:29
seb128well, look at nautilus09:29
seb128it's a bit big as well09:29
Laneyharder to tell there, for me anyway09:29
seb128but the GTK scaling is only by int numbers09:29
seb128so the screen is HiDPI a x2 kicks in09:29
seb128which gives that result09:29
seb1281.5 would be better but that's not possible for GTK09:30
seb128the issue in that report is that unity doesn't scale09:30
Laneyactually that UI scale slider does nothing for me either09:30
seb128you can maybe add that the behaviour of Unity/GTK not respecting the same setting is confusing09:30
seb128right09:30
seb128hikiko, hey, do you know if the slider you added to to the display config is supposed to make unity change it's scaling? it seems to not work09:31
hikikoseb128, it works with a new branch we have, we just didnt merge it because there are some other issues to be done first (like panels etc) let me give you my branch09:34
seb128hikiko, so it mean the feature missed ff (which was yesterday)?09:34
hikikohttps://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.ui-scale-factor09:35
hikikoyes, because when we integrated everything we found 1-2 things that need fixing09:36
hikikoso we didn't do an MP09:36
LaneyIt's a bit strange that we got the slider which doesn't work09:37
hikikoit works, unity doesn't work yet09:37
hikikothe slider only updates the setting09:37
Laneythat's not working from a user perspective really09:39
Laneyas you can see it confused the guy who reported the bug I linked to earlier09:39
hikiko:/09:42
seb128you confused me as well09:42
seb128I though that the Unity in landing ask had HiDPI support09:42
seb128that's quite disappointing09:43
seb128Trevinho_, bregma: ^09:43
hikikoI know, but we couldn't merge before getting sure that panels and decorations look fine09:43
seb128you could have09:43
seb128default factor is 109:44
seb128and users playing with the slider and not having a perfect result is ok09:44
seb128it's easy to put back the slider to 109:44
Laneydoes something set the g-s-d scaling factor?09:44
seb128Laney, g-s-d itself :p09:44
Laneyor, mine was 0 - does that mean autodetect?09:44
seb128yes09:44
seb128hikiko, anyway thanks for the work, those comments are rather directed to bregma than you ;-)09:48
Laneyis there any syncing with the org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor value?09:48
seb128I don't think so09:49
seb128the issue is that the scaling-factor works only on int values09:49
seb128which is a poor granularity09:49
seb128that's what gives you nautilus being too big on that screenshot09:50
seb128it's either too small or too big09:50
Laneymmm09:50
seb128the unity factor has been precision09:50
seb128which works fine for unity and qml09:50
seb128been->better09:50
Laneybut I guess it does nothing for gtk stuff?09:50
seb128no09:51
Laneyso that's going to be weird in the other direction09:51
seb128well, it's going to be weird anyway, even if we couple both options09:51
seb128if you set 1.5 that's going to be work fine for unity/qml but what do we do for GTK?09:52
seb128set 1 or 2 ?09:52
Laneyone or the other though09:52
Laneyoverride the auto detection09:52
seb128yeah, that makes sense I guess09:53
seb128it's just going to be weird, going from 1.49 to 1.51 some stuff are going to scale nicely, and GTK is going to do a jump09:53
Laneygot to work with what you're given09:53
seb128right09:54
seb128Laney, we should probably put https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=260359bc74dda450dda6bff1c4a17dd126a61b18 back in u-s-d09:58
seb128e.g disable the autodetection09:59
seb128then teach the u-c-c slider to write the config to 1 or 209:59
Sweetsharkmoin!10:01
seb128Sweetshark, hey, how are you?10:01
Laneyyou mean revert that?10:01
seb128Laney, yeah, put the code back I meant10:01
Laneyhmm10:01
seb128well "code", "workaround"10:01
Laneyyou'd just replace the function with 'return 1'10:02
seb128right10:02
Laneywell, the if block10:02
Laneydoes unity do its own autodetection?10:03
hikikoseb128, I can do a MP right now I think or when bregma's day starts10:04
seb128Laney, I don't think so10:04
seb128hikiko, having a mp is the first step toward getting that landed, that would be nice, thanks ;-)10:05
hikikobut there are some artifacts when you scale up the desktop and I think bschafer knows how to fix them10:05
seb128hikiko, well, other commits can be pushed later or other branches added to the landing10:08
hikikook10:09
Sweetsharkseb128: 4.2.1 is done, Im happy.10:10
Sweetshark;)10:10
seb128Sweetshark, hey10:10
seb128Sweetshark, congrats ;-)10:10
hikikoseb128, maybe wait for bregma and then start landing?10:12
seb128k10:12
hikikothanks :)10:13
hikikobecause my day is over because bregma's and I am not 100% sure that there weren't other blockers after I left10:15
hikiko:s/because/before10:15
Laneyxnox_: I feel like you asked me to look at something, but I forgot what & where you asked10:29
Laneyhalp10:29
xnox_Laney: i think seb reviewed it already ;-)10:35
xnox_and robert10:35
Laneysuh-weet10:35
Laneywhat was it anyway?10:35
Laneyah, reviewing FFes, I've missed you10:37
Laneyxnox_: I found it10:37
Laneywhy duplicate the code and not put the png in some shared package?10:37
mhr3heelp10:38
mhr3i lost printscreen10:38
mhr3it doesn't take screenshot anymore10:38
mhr3oh wait... now it did10:38
mhr3nevermind :)10:38
Laneywait, mine doesn't work either10:38
Laneyhelp ME!10:38
xnox_Laney: the code is slightly different, a logical place to put pngs into base-files, but i don't think a vala or compiler dependency is wanted there.10:38
Laneyubuntu-artwork or something10:39
xnox_seb128: re:vala dependency it depends on all gtk stack anyway, thus vala is just small icing on the cake. Doing it in python would have increased dependencies more...10:39
LaneyI just looked at the FFe for the new lock screen10:40
Laneythey want the logo there too10:40
xnox_Laney: maybe when we go high-dpi and switch to svgs, i'll put it into ubuntu-artwork.10:40
Laneyso that'll be three copies?10:40
xnox_Laney: lock screen -> is that ubiquity-greeter package or something else?10:40
Laneysimilar10:40
Laneyreplicating the UI rather than reusing it10:41
Laneyhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/166229067/Screenshot%20from%202014-02-13%2023:40:36.png10:41
xnox_Laney: no, svgs will just go into e.g. ubuntu-artwork and the rest just depend on it....10:42
Laneybut right now everybody just copies the code?10:42
seb128xnox_, yeah, fair enough10:42
xnox_Laney: they should just be launching stand-alone unity-greeter in that mode for the lock-screen, instead of redoing it.10:42
Laneyyou can assume that was thought of10:43
xnox_aka --test-mode, but --lock-mode10:43
xnox_=)10:43
xnox_ok.10:43
xnox_Laney: the logo from unity-greeter, can be fetched from unity-greeter.... just load up /usr/share/unity-greeter/logo.png...10:44
Laneyright10:44
Laneythat's not the best dependency though10:44
Laneyso at least I'd have a -data package or something10:44
* xnox_ ponders if one new package metadata is bigger than the two pngs combined....10:50
xnox_Laney: i don't mind how it's packaged, as long as i see up-to-date digits where-ever i look =)10:51
LaneyzI commented10:51
LaneyI think the project is decent, just want to be careful to avoid duplication if we can10:52
Laney:-)10:52
didrocksLaney: btw answered: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1282590/comments/310:52
ubot2Launchpad bug 1282590 in Ubuntu "[FFe] standing freeze exception in trusty for Ubuntu Touch-specific packages" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:52
didrocksthe schema one seems a bug to me and the desktop version shouldn't use the touch source10:52
Laneynope10:54
Laneythey're shared between touch and desktop10:54
didrocksthe source is named -touch though :p10:54
Laneywe just renamed the binary packages to have no -touch in them, the old ones are transitional packages now10:54
Laneysource rename will happen at some point10:55
didrocksah10:55
didrocksanyway, I guess adding a new key to a schema will be a feature coming from another package10:58
Laneyindeed11:00
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Laneyaha11:13
xnox_Laney: yeah, avoiding duplication would be good with these logos.... alas i have other near-miss FeatureFreeze things to attend to =)11:14
Laney(unity-settings-daemon:31101): media-keys-plugin-WARNING **: Failed to save a screenshot: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMetho11:15
Laneyd: No such interface 'org.gnome.Shell.Screenshot' on object at path /org/gnome/Shell/Screenshot11:15
seb128Laney, weird, keys are working fine under unity here11:16
seb128oh, it's for screenshots11:16
Laneyyeah11:16
Laneylooking11:17
seb128Laney, g-s-d's fix_screenshots_on_unity.patch is missing11:18
seb128or not11:18
seb128hum11:18
seb128oh11:19
seb128        if (!manager->priv->have_legacy_keygrabber)11:19
seb128                gsd_screenshot_take (type);11:19
seb128Laney, we need to drop the if/else in do_screenshot_action()11:19
seb128just always use the else case11:19
seb128since the first one is g-s specific11:20
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seb128Laney, if you come with a fix/mp, I'm happy to review/approve ;-)11:21
Laneybuilding it to check11:21
LaneyI wonder if there are other similar paths11:22
seb128looking through the have_legacy_keygrabber mentions I think not11:24
Laneyyeah, that fix works11:30
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LaneyI don't know why it started working for mhr3 though11:31
xnox_seb128: libaccount-plugin-1.0-dev used to be available on ppc64el from src:gnome-control-center-signon, now that has a hard-build-dep on qtdeclarative5-dev and thus libaccount-plugin-1.0-dev is not build =(11:34
xnox_seb128: but libaccount-plugin-1.0-dev doesn't appear to be qtdeclarative thing...11:34
seb128xnox_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center-signon/0.1.7~+14.04.20131126.2-0ubuntu111:35
seb128no it didn't11:35
seb128https://launchpadlibrarian.net/157678738/gnome-control-center-signon_0.1.7~%2B14.04.20131126.2-0ubuntu1.diff.gz11:35
xnox_seb128: hm. something i'm looking at is lieying to me.11:35
seb128+Architecture: i386 amd64 armhf arm6411:35
xnox_seb128: sorry, ignore me then.11:35
mitya57How is nautilus started in Unity nowadays? I would expect the session to require nautilus-classic, but that's not the case.11:51
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seb128mitya57, /etc/xdg/autostart/nautilus-autostart.desktop12:03
seb128Laney, I just approved your mp, feel free to put a landing ask for it12:10
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seb128mitya57, /etc/xdg/autostart/nautilus-autostart.desktop12:12
Laneysure, do you have anything else?12:12
mitya57seb128: thanks12:12
seb128Laney, no, I'm working on u-c-c atm, I'm probably going to have a look to backport some g-s-d fixes but I doubt it's going to be today12:13
Laneyokay12:13
* mitya57 wonders why that doesn't work in bug 1224217 then12:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 1224217 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "50_ubuntu_sessions.patch causes gnome-flashback sessions not to load" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122421712:14
mitya57darkxst: ^ Any thoughts?12:14
mitya57seb128: whom can I ask about https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/indicator-applet/ftbfs-allow-deprecations/+merge/206999 ? Maybe you can mark it as approved?12:16
didrocksseb128: ok, so the icon I have in my unmaximized window is the one I'm getting when setting adwaita by default12:17
didrocksI need to run strace again I guess12:17
seb128didrocks, yeah, just strace and grep for png12:17
seb128mitya57: I just approved it12:18
mitya57-mobileseb128: thanks!12:21
* mitya57-mobile is trying to make all flashback stuff less broken12:21
didrocksseb128: so, nothing in ~12:22
didrocksthe only icons opens that are similar (but hard to say if they are the same) are the dash ones12:23
seb128didrocks, it's puzzling, you say it doesn't happen to other users/guest?12:23
didrocksbtw, some designers have the same12:23
didrocksyeah12:23
didrocksand same for them, only in their session12:23
seb128compiz user config?12:23
didrocksI tried to remove those12:23
didrockswithout any result12:23
seb128k, I guess it needs debugging from Trevinho_ then12:24
seb128seems like everybody is getting some sleep after ff rush though12:24
seb128which seems fair enough ;-)12:24
didrocksyeah, I'm at loss right now, really don't understand…12:26
didrockstried to change the theme12:26
seb128the wm theme?12:26
didrocksyeah12:26
didrocksgot a warning that a close.png wasn't found12:26
didrocksso I guess it falls back to a default12:26
didrocksbut I don't see which/where it does find it…12:27
didrocksand why it fetched it for unmaximized app12:27
* didrocks is happy at least, to not be lonely in that case12:27
seb128where do you get that warning?12:29
seb128is close.png listed in your strace?12:29
didrocksok, not a svg either12:29
didrocksyeah12:29
didrocksthe one in unity theme12:29
didrocks(which is shown when apps are maximized for me)12:30
didrocksthe warning is in stderr12:30
seb128is the warning a gtk one?12:31
didrocksno, for instance, it's:12:32
didrocksWARN  2014-02-21 13:31:38 unity.decoration.style DecorationStyle.cpp:373 No Window button file for 'Adwaita/unity/close.png'12:32
didrockswhen I load the Adwaita theme12:32
didrocks(and so, it falls back to that icon, even for maximized)12:32
didrocksseb128: http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/tmp/capure_buttons.png12:33
didrocks(btw, already saw some bugs with lim)12:34
seb128I don't have those warnings12:34
seb128(like?)12:34
didrocksI don't have those by default12:34
seb128(seems to work mostly fine for me)12:34
didrocksonly if I use the Adwaita theme12:34
didrockslike click on a menu12:34
didrocksthen use the keyboard12:34
didrocksto navigate (left/right)12:34
didrocksit's jumping to the gobal menu12:34
seb128wfm12:35
didrocksthunderbird?12:35
didrocksdoesn't work in chromium for me as well12:36
seb128works there12:36
didrockshum, maybe there is more magic and I need to restart the session12:36
didrockswell, I'm at loss with those icons (and I have no env variable that's in the code path)12:37
didrockslet's see once Trevinho_ is around12:37
seb128yeah12:37
hikiko|lunch /nick hikiko12:42
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mdeslaurseb128: whoops, I now have two network indicators12:54
seb128mdeslaur, uninstall indicator-network?12:56
mdeslaurseb128: ubuntu-system-settings depends on indicator-network (>= 0.5.0+13.10.20130918)12:57
seb128mdeslaur, well, why do you have ubuntu-system-settings installed?12:57
seb128that's the phone's settings12:58
mdeslaurseb128: I have no idea, something pulled it in :)12:58
mdeslaurone sec, let me see12:58
seb128do you have unity8 installed?12:58
mdeslaurseb128: yes12:58
Laneythere was a brief sad when that got pulled in12:58
ogra_yeah, see the ML ...12:58
Laney [ubuntu/trusty] webkitgtk 2.3.90-1ubuntu1 (Accepted)12:58
LaneyWOOOOOOOOO12:58
seb128there was one day this week where u-c-c was outdated and the phone stack would be pulled in as an alternative12:59
seb128ogra_, what ml?12:59
ogra_seb128, desktop ?12:59
ogra_"call for testing unity-control-center ..."12:59
seb128right, that's different12:59
seb128that doesn't pull unity8 on your desktop installs12:59
ogra_no, the guy had unity8 installed which pulled in powerd and libhybris13:00
ogra_(kai mast)13:00
mdeslaurseb128: so I can uninstall all the unity8* packages?13:01
seb128yes13:01
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mdeslaurseb128: ok, besides indicator-network, ubuntu-system-settings, unity8*, ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, account-plugin-ubuntuone and unity-scope-click, anything else come to mind as being unneeded?13:03
seb128no, but autoremove should help there13:03
mdeslauroh, right, autoremove13:04
mdeslaurthanks seb12813:04
seb128yw!13:04
desrtseb128, Laney: happy day-after13:08
desrtglad you both survived :)13:08
seb128desrt, hey, happy friday! thanks -;)13:08
desrtseb128: hm.  i see your nose got damaged in the battle yesterday13:09
Laneyhey desrt13:09
seb128lol, indeed :p13:09
Laneyguten freitag13:09
ogra_++13:09
desrtogra_: hope everything went nicely for you too :)13:09
seb128desrt, btw, I've been watching some curling on TV, it's actually somewhat fun to watch ;-)13:09
desrtYES13:10
Laneyoh yes13:10
desrtcurling is the shit... seriously13:10
* Laney is timing lunch right today13:10
ogra_desrt, my nemesis is still up ... MWC only starts on monday ;)13:10
seb128Laney, let's see if the rain manage to get you again!13:10
desrt'MWC freeze'13:10
Laneyseb128: it's a lunch of staying in and watching team gb :P13:10
ogra_well, touch has a standing exception :)13:11
seb128Laney, +1 for that ;-)13:11
Laneyalthough all curlers seem to be scottish13:11
Laneyalso: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-olympics/2625789513:11
desrtLaney: i guess all scottish curlers are probably scottish?13:11
Laneyi assume that to be the case13:12
ogra_https://imgflip.com/gif/724jp13:12
desrthahahah.  david attenborough narrates.  that's so perfect.13:12
desrtcurling is just like a nature flick13:12
desrtrelaxing and majestic... until all hell breaks loose13:13
seb128Laney, yeah, the french commentators keep saying "the scottish team" following by "sorry, they are members of the scotisch team usually, but they play for gb during the olympics" ;-)13:16
Laneyhaha13:16
Laneywe have the "national ice centre" here, maybe I could try it there13:16
desrti think it might be a bit the same with curling everywhere13:16
desrttypically the team is one particular club from the country that has beaten all of the other clubs in the country13:17
desrtso they're usually all from the same city, in fact13:17
desrti was following the scotties during the sprint -- that's the canadian women's.... each province had a team (plus a team for yukon+NWT) plus the winners from last year playing as "team canada" (who were from ontario)13:18
desrtontario won, of course :)13:18
seb128hehe13:18
desrt(hmm.. "scotties"... maybe this scottish theory has something to it....)13:19
seb128"scottish theory"?13:20
desrt08:11 < Laney> although all curlers seem to be scottish13:20
seb128oh13:20
seb128the stones are coming from Scotland at least13:21
ogra_mick jagger would disagree13:21
seb128Sweetsha1k, hunspell-fr synced btw, you need to MIR it next I think13:30
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xnox_XklConfigItem now returns a list, instead of a bytearray in the name properly.13:56
xnox_(property)13:56
deniswsorry for interrupting, but *thanks* for the integrated Unity menubars!13:58
deniswthese make the app menus of several gnome apps feel 99% less awkward, and work much better with multi-window apps like gimp and empathy13:58
larsu_denisw: thank Trevinho_ :)13:58
deniswTrevinho_, thanks! love your work :)13:59
deniswlarsu_, and yours too, of course ;) will there be more apps converted from app menus to classic menus, or are these changes not allowed anymore after feature freeze?14:01
Trevinho_denisw: yw ;)14:01
Trevinho_I hope it will be still posssible till UI freeze14:01
desrtLaney: uh oh....14:01
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seb128xnox_, is http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libxklavier/commit/?id=115a22dfff5ea59cdcf8a5a7f8e15ffd71164c1c your issue?14:02
Trevinholarsu_: about that, is there something planned for nautilus? :)14:02
seb128Trevinho, larsu is working on it14:02
xnox_seb128: yes, that's nice. i want that in trusty.14:02
xnox_seb128: let me test-build it and check that it helps.14:03
deniswi guess nautilus is pretty difficult, having looked at the code a few days ago14:03
larsu_denisw: I'll try to get an exception14:03
seb128xnox_, k, let me know (and blame pitti for the g-i changes ;-)14:04
deniswlarsu_, cool :) any way to help on this?14:05
denisw(the coding, i mean)14:06
seb128oh, a larsu_14:06
seb128larsu_,  good morning ;-)14:06
seb128larsu_, happy friday!14:06
larsu_hey :)14:06
larsu_you too!14:06
larsu_denisw: thanks! I'm afraid not, it's just some tedious gtkaction -> gaction porting. I'd be happy about tester, though :)14:07
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seb128Trevinho, bregma: do you plan to do a landing today to enable hidpi?14:08
desrt(3nd end) Canada 2, GB 114:08
larsuseb128: I still don't have a clue how I couldend up with the wrong u-c-c branch. I'm rebasing my patches right now.14:08
larsudesrt: morning :)14:09
desrtmorning :)14:09
seb128desrt, trolling Laney? ;-)14:09
bregmaseb128, working on it14:09
desrtseb128: laney's TV is trolling him :)14:09
xnox_seb128: i wonder if grouper tablets are good to test unity7 desktop, based on old images =)14:09
deniswlarsu, ping me when you need one ;) i'm going to hang around here as regularly as i can in the future14:09
seb128larsu, yeah, that's a mystery to me as well...14:09
larsudenisw: awesome14:09
larsuseb128: bzr sucks!14:09
seb128lol14:09
* larsu hides14:09
seb128oh, it's friday14:09
seb128:p14:09
desrt(larsu says) git 1, bzr 014:09
larsuI would have said this on any other day as well :P14:09
larsudesrt: what is this, 2010?14:10
larsuthe count is quite different now14:10
Trevinhoseb128: no idea, I've not checked the work on it yet :)14:10
larsu(with negative points for bzr)14:10
seb128Trevinho, I'm pretty disappointed that the landing from yesterday didn't actually enable the feature, you guys need a ffe now14:10
seb128bregma, ^ btw, need a ffe now14:10
Trevinhoseb128: really? The feature is there, it's only missing the config...14:11
larsuit was in the news, so it has to get an exception now!14:11
larsuneat plan btw ;)14:11
seb128Trevinho, no, the feature is not there14:11
seb128Trevinho, if it's not active it's not tested, so it's not there14:11
larsuis it on by default?14:11
seb128no14:11
seb128it's not possible to enable either14:11
larsuhm14:11
seb128it needs code patch to be enabled14:11
larsuweird14:11
seb128larsu, you can go to the display capplet and try to move the slider and see how nothings happens :p14:12
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Trevinhoseb128: I've to check but I think the code landed is actually possible to enable it14:13
Trevinhoseb128: by setting the UI factor14:13
seb128Trevinho, no, that's what the u-c-c panel does14:14
Trevinhoat least that was the last branch I sent14:14
seb128that has no effect14:14
seb128Trevinho, hikiko said it was disabled on purposed because some bits are still buggy14:14
hikikoTrevinho, https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.ui-scale-factor/+merge/207610 here's my branch14:15
hikikowhen I merged my code to lim14:15
Trevinhohikiko: ok14:15
hikikothe decorations had some artifacts and delayed to update sometimes14:15
Trevinhoseb128: btw per se the feature is usable, it only needs to connect to proper options, I wouldn't call this a feature.. but ok, if we need a FFe...14:15
seb128Trevinho, well, there is no obvious way to test the feature so I would say it got 0 testing14:16
seb128Trevinho, the purpose of the freeze is to make sure we don't enable new codepaths/start testing things late14:16
seb128Trevinho, but let's not argue about it, it's just slightly disappointing the option didn't get actually connected to the setting in the landing from yesterday, I landing the control center expecting unity would use it14:17
xnox_seb128: yeah, i want that patch. should i upload with or without version change in configure.ac? i was thinking without.14:17
seb128Trevinho, now we get bug reports than the slider doesn't work14:17
xnox_one can test if the method exists easy enough.14:17
xnox_(in any language)14:18
desrtLaney: looking bad...14:18
xnox_seb128: or let me work it out in ubiquity.14:18
Trevinhoseb128: I understand that14:18
seb128xnox_, you might just want to take their new tarball/update? there is like 5 commits on http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libxklavier/14:18
xnox_seb128: yeah, i'll do that.14:19
xnox_seb128: and it will make ubiquity code simple.14:19
seb128good14:19
seb128xnox_, what are you hacking in ubiquity?14:20
xnox_seb128: bug #128264014:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 1282640 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "ubiquity crashed with AttributeError in item_str(): 'list' object has no attribute 'find'" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128264014:20
seb128oh, so bug fix, not new feature14:21
xnox_seb128: the field in question changed from a bytearray to a string, so i have options to reassemble a bytearray from the list and continue use old hacks to extract a name str.14:21
xnox_seb128: or update the library and get the name with like .get_name() which will return a proper string to me straight off the bat.14:21
xnox_at the moment ubiquity does not launch.14:21
desrt(4th end) Canada 5, GB 114:22
xnox_desrt: yeah, pathetic..... first cleared our own stones out of the house, then didn't quite clear all the canadian stones....14:23
xnox_desrt: are you canadian?14:23
desrtyup14:23
desrti should note that i have no particular sense of attachment to this specific team...14:23
xnox_i clearly should get back into curling.... these lads are crap =)14:23
xnox_i love british commentry "I'm not sure what else could possibly go wrong."14:31
Trevinhoseb128: however setting org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor mostly work for now (except text)14:34
seb128it doesn't impact on unity though14:36
Laneydesrt: the pain!14:36
desrtLaney: sorry dude14:37
desrtseems your guys are having an off day :/14:38
Laneythe commentators are trying to be positive14:38
Laneykinda funny14:38
* desrt was hoping for a more interesting game14:38
desrtwell... here's something to be positive about14:39
desrtif you did manage to pull through, it would be amazingly awesome14:39
desrtone for the books, to be sure14:39
desrtmaybe that's the plan all along?14:39
seb128desrt, nice one on the women's hockey btw, coming back from 2-0 in 3 minutes and winning in overtime14:42
desrtseb128: ya.. that's another one for the books, indeed :)14:43
seb128;-)14:43
xnox_desrt: why win easy, when one can win it HARD?!14:46
xnox_=)14:46
LaneyHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD14:46
* xnox_ sings: we can go hard or we can go home....14:47
desrtif it gives you guys any consolation, this will be a hollow victor for me :p14:48
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desrt(8th end) Canada 8, GB 315:34
Laneyhand shake time15:35
* desrt shakes Laney's hand15:35
desrtsorry about that :/15:36
Laneywell played15:36
xnox_=(15:36
desrti think your guys just had an off day, unfortunately15:36
desrtsilver is nothing to scoff at, though15:37
xnox_well if your 4th is not making the shots.... there is not much else that can help.15:37
Laneyi quite want to try it now15:37
desrtLaney: well, then we've all won :)15:38
desrtcurling is a lot of fun15:38
Laneyhaha15:38
Laneythe nearest place on trycurling.com is in wales, 79 miles away15:39
xnox_i played curling in canada it was a lot of fun.15:40
* jpds wonders if Laney's part of http://newsthump.com/2014/02/21/british-curling-hooligans-decimate-sochi/15:42
Laneyhaha15:42
jpdshttp://newsthump.com/2014/02/20/britain-to-petition-winter-olympics-for-inclusion-of-longest-pavement-skid/15:43
seb128Laney, do you have some time to review (or just ack changes for me? ;-)15:53
Laneyseb128: yeah shortly, do 'request review' so i get emailed15:54
seb128Laney, ok; 2 u-c-c reviews sent your way, attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/128311515:57
ubot2Launchpad bug 1283115 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "[ffe] backport of some 3.8 improvements and bugfixes" [High,Confirmed]15:57
Laneyty15:57
seb128thank *you* for reviewing ;-)15:58
Laneyhmm16:04
Laneyhow do I get the osk layout to go to chinese?16:04
seb128Laney, you go to the settings language panel and select chinese?16:05
seb128I didn't try but you should be able to change from there16:05
Laneyyeah, it's still in english16:06
Laneyeven after rebooting16:06
Laneywas going to look at that chinese search bug, but i probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to type the right things anyway16:07
seb128Laney, btw about that logo bug, the login screen and c-c don't use the same logo, the c-c one has the orange circle with the lable bellow it, the greeter has one line16:07
Laneyyeah16:07
seb128so we can't share 1 image16:07
Laneybut the code is almost the same, it can be made to generate both16:07
seb128we would generate the bunch of images in ubuntu-artwork though16:07
seb128could*16:07
Laneythat's the plan16:07
seb128good, I like that ;-)16:08
seb128Laney, chinese osk, I wonder if there is a plugin for the osk to install that is not on the default image?16:08
Laneyno idea16:09
Laneyit's offered as an option16:09
Laneythe button in the bottom left is chinese16:10
seb128right, same here16:10
seb128I guess ask bfiller&co16:10
seb12816:12
seb128well, works on the desktop16:12
seb128that seems rather a toolkit/osk issue if it doesn't work, we use a standard widget16:12
Laneyworks to search?16:13
Laneytrue, I could try that on my desktop16:13
seb128Laney, works to input chinese through pinyin16:18
seb128the report says "It doesn't able to input Chinese"16:18
seb128it might be what you said, the osk doesn't input chinese16:18
Laneyah16:18
Laneynice, I thought it was a searching bug16:18
LaneyHAH, U-S-S WINS AGAIN16:18
seb128;-)16:18
pittiGood morning16:21
Laneynobody is here today16:21
Laneybah!16:21
Laneyhey pitti16:21
seb128pitti, good morning! how is California?16:22
pittiseb128: haven't really seen much of it since Sunday, been stuck in the hotel and working long hours all week :)16:23
pittihey Laney, how are you?16:23
seb128:-(16:23
seb128when do you fly back?16:23
Laneypitti: I'm alright, had a cough but it's on the way out now16:24
Laneyalso a beer festival tomorrow: http://nwaf.org.uk/ :-)16:24
pittiseb128: tonight, will be back home tomorrow night16:24
Laneyseb128: hmm, I can switch to azerty16:25
seb128k, no hangout around in SF on saturday then16:25
Laneyblaming osk for now, will ask the reporter what he means though16:25
seb128Laney, that feels good right ;-)16:25
seb128yeah, I would blame the osk/ask for details as well16:25
Laneyit was a bit buggy though16:25
seb128ok, I've been sticking to the computer all week with the ff madness, today I can actual go do some exercice16:26
Laneylike it said '2' and wouldn't let me deselect english16:26
seb128:-(16:26
Laneythen I quit u-s-s and restarted it16:26
Laneyand it said 'français' there16:26
Laneys/f/F/16:26
seb128those a coming from gsettings I think?16:26
seb128but feel free to register a bug if you can easily reproduce16:26
seb128ok, I'm out for an hour for some exercice16:26
Laneyya16:27
Laneyok, have fun16:27
seb128then going to land u-c-c (if I got the reviews/ffes by then ;-) and do a nautilus upload16:27
seb128then calling it a week16:27
seb128thanks16:27
Laneypitti: cool on the new adt arches16:27
seb128indeed, nice work there16:28
Laneydid you see anything like https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/trusty-adt-glib2.0-ppc64/1/console ?16:28
seb128ok, bbiab16:28
pittiLaney: will take a bit to sort out the fallout, but surprisingly most of the faillures are not really arch specific16:28
pittibut missing dependencies or insufficient isolation from a container16:28
Laney/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: /lib/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst)16:28
pittiLaney: argh, did you see that in a recent log?16:30
Laneythere are only two logs there16:30
Laneybut it's in both of them16:30
pittiLaney: I thought I fixed all the containers yesterday, but that broken glibc version keeps coming back on wolfe-0416:30
pittiI killed the lXC cache, the containers, rebuilt them from scratch16:31
Laneythey're not 'recent'16:31
pittiLaney: oh, -ppc6416:31
pittiLaney: yes, they are old16:31
Laneyack16:31
jibelpitti, it is an old build, you fixed it afterwards16:31
pittiLaney: the current ones are -ppc64el, I sent an RT yesterday to remove all the -ppc64 logs16:31
Laneyokay16:31
Laneyit's the one I got an email about ;-)16:31
Sweetsha1kseb128: thx, will take care of that.16:38
xnox_doping control!16:49
xnox_ -ECHAN16:49
Laneyseems appropriate16:50
xclaessehey, that option to have menu in the window decorator is awesome. Nice job :)16:54
mptdidrocks, you can now turn off bug tracking for https://launchpad.net/light-themes16:57
didrocksmpt: done16:59
mptThanks!16:59
didrocksyw17:03
mptdidrocks, and the same with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-artwork17:06
mptHey mvo!17:18
didrocksmpt: (was in meeting) done17:23
mdeslaurTrevinho: so if I maximize a window, and then unmaximize it, menus stay in the title bar...is there a bug filed for that?17:36
Trevinhomdeslaur: I can't reproduce, but I think no17:37
Trevinhomdeslaur: as for that positioning fix I 've a fix, although I've to improve that17:37
desrtdarkxst: hey... hitting some gdm issues.  know anything about that?17:37
mdeslaurTrevinho: so what do I file the bug against...compiz?17:38
mdeslaurTrevinho: or unity?17:38
Trevinhono, unity17:38
Trevinhoall is unity now17:38
Trevinhomdeslaur: what apps?17:38
mdeslaurall of them...firefox, gnome-terminal for sure17:39
Trevinhomdeslaur: however, having the output of17:39
Trevinhogdbus call -e -d com.canonical.Unity -o /com/canonical/Unity/Debug --method com.canonical.Autopilot.Introspection.GetState "/Unity/PanelController/UnityPanel/MenuView/"17:39
Trevinhocan help17:39
Trevinho(when restored)17:39
mdeslaurTrevinho: the menus go away as soon as another window gets focus17:39
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mdeslaurTrevinho: filed bug 128315617:44
ubot2Launchpad bug 1283156 in unity (Ubuntu) "menus switch to window title when window is unmaximized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128315617:44
mdeslaurTrevinho: this new feature is awesome BTW, congrats on landing it ;)17:44
Trevinhomdeslaur: thanks ;)17:44
Trevinhomdeslaur: have you able to get that debug output?17:45
mdeslaurTrevinho: Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface 'com.canonical.Autopilot.Introspection' on object at path /com/canonical/Unity/Debug17:45
Trevinhomdeslaur: mh ah.17:45
Trevinhowait17:45
Trevinhomdeslaur: install ...17:45
Trevinhomdeslaur: libxpathselect1.417:46
Trevinhomdeslaur: restart unity.. and it should be there17:46
mdeslaurTrevinho: is there an easy way to restart unity without interrupting what I'm currently working on?17:47
mdeslaurTrevinho: actually, nm, I'll just restart my session, one sec17:49
Trevinhomdeslaur: oh, yeah17:49
Trevinhomdeslaur: nohup compiz --replace &17:49
mdeslaurah, cool, thanks17:50
seb128Laney, I'm back, saw your comment about the history not working for you17:50
mdeslaurTrevinho: ok, pasted output to bug17:51
seb128Laney, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692253 has some debugging hints17:52
ubot2Gnome bug 692253 in User Accounts "user-accounts: empty login history window" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]17:52
Trevinhomdeslaur: indeed... That's an issue that I fixed, but it seems it got reverted by a merge :/17:54
mdeslaurTrevinho: whoops :(17:54
Trevinhomdeslaur: thanks for point it out17:54
mdeslaurnp! :)17:54
Laneyseb128: does it work for you?17:55
Trevinhomdeslaur: feel free to remove that lib you installed if you want17:55
Trevinhomdeslaur: ah, that log was when the window was restored, right?17:55
mdeslaurTrevinho: yes, when the window was unmaximized and the problem was active17:55
seb128Laney, now that you mention it, in a buggy way, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/users.png17:57
seb128Laney, e.g it's missing records for sure ... I'm going to debug it17:57
seb128Laney, I guess that landing can wait monday anyway17:57
Laneyyeah, no rush17:58
Laneyyou can land the bluetooth one if you want17:58
seb128thanks17:58
Laney& the artwork thing17:58
seb128I'm going to land ... that17:58
seb128;-)17:58
Laneycool17:58
seb128thanks for the review&testing&pointing that commit for the warnings17:59
Laney$vcs blame for the win17:59
seb128I cleaned all the other warnings I was getting but I wanted to go for exercice and pushed what I got17:59
desrtfor all of its failings, i love that bzr has 'bzr praise'18:00
desrtthat's seriously clever18:00
Laneyhaha18:00
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Laneythey're both aliases to 'annotate'18:00
desrtit's just so polite!18:01
desrtbzr -- the kind person's vcs18:01
seb128bzr - vcs for ubuntu being18:01
desrt:)18:01
desrtmy code is what it is because of what all the other people's code is18:01
Laneyneeds moar naked people18:01
desrt(a statement which is very true, by the way -- and is really the essence of the ubuntu spirit, if you think about it)18:02
desrti might hate on x11 or whatever, but if it didn't existed, then the code that i wrote is kinda pointless18:03
Laneythat is a good note to begin a weekend on18:05
Laneyau revoir desktop pals18:05
desrtLaney: go check out a curling rink :)18:05
Laneybeer festival & parents visiting18:05
desrtthat works too :)18:05
desrthave a good one!18:05
Laney& climbing of course18:05
Laneyyou too!18:05
seb128Laney, have a nice w.e!18:05
desrtdarkxst: i take it back... dist-upgrade and gdm seems to be happy again.18:06
Laney(actually I just bought game dev tycoon, so I'll be 'here', just in a different position :P)18:06
seb128xnox_, want to update https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/unity-control-center/versioned-logo/+merge/207574 to change the string?18:06
Laneyfeel free to stack one on that and self approve imo18:07
desrtclassic -- apport pops up a dialog "System problem detected" just as i press 'Y' on 'apt-get remove apport'18:07
desrtyup apport -- you have indeed detected a problem... FOR YOURSELF18:07
xnox_seb128: it looks ugly with LTS18:07
Laney"Just what do you think you're doing, Ryan?"18:08
desrtLaney: ;)18:08
Laneyapport 900018:08
desrtwe could use a 'developer mode'18:09
desrtlike "i know stuff is crashing -- and it's my fault...." mode18:09
seb128xnox_, well, it's the name of the distro :p18:14
seb128xnox_, or the version rather18:15
seb128desrt, there is a checkbox "don't bug me again about that software" no?18:15
desrtthis was "system problem" and it had no such checkbox18:15
desrtjust cancel|report18:15
desrtseems that ubuntu on the touch laptops is not perfect...18:16
desrtlots of errors on startup and lots of non-working features (screen brightness, etc)18:16
didrocksTrevinho: seems popey also has (some other) close window button theme issue18:17
didrocksTrevinho: and as I talked with seb128 earlier, some designers as well18:17
popeyi do18:17
didrocksTrevinho: so, there is really a bug ;)18:17
seb128desrt, the Xorg.0.log is spammed with input xorg backtraces for me18:17
popeyTrevinho: http://i.imgur.com/XNAV67E.jpg18:17
xnox_seb128: ok, all fixed.18:18
Laneyseems mlankhorst needs one of these laptops ;-)18:18
seb128xnox_, thanks18:18
seb128yeah18:18
desrtseb128: i don't seem to have that problem, at least18:18
desrtseb128: gnome is running nicely -- nicer than fedora, even18:18
seb128desrt, what binaries have an apport?18:18
desrtseb128: i don't know -- apport is already gone :)18:18
Laneyif you press report then it should give you the normal dialog18:18
seb128desrt, I don't see any user visible issue, I just happened to open the xorg log the other day and noticed all the errors18:18
seb128desrt, ls /var/crash18:18
mlankhorsto.O18:18
Laneythat means that it wants your password18:19
desrtseb128: xserver-xorg-video-intel :)18:19
seb128k18:19
desrtand ya... lots of them18:19
mlankhorstoh btw I already have a preliminary lts backport18:19
seb128lot of xorg?18:19
desrtno.18:19
* didrocks waves good evening and good week-end18:19
seb128desrt, can you pastebin the list?18:19
desrtbut i don't understand how i get reports about xserver-xorg-video-intel18:19
desrtdidrocks: goodnight18:19
Laneybye didrocks!18:19
seb128why?18:20
didrocksthanks, you too desrt, Laney!18:20
desrtseb128: it's only the one thing: over and over the intel driver18:20
seb128ah, k18:20
seb128so it's what I was saying :p18:20
desrtseb128: because it's not a binary -- just a module for another binary18:20
desrtie: the x server18:20
mlankhorstwell, almost18:20
seb128apport knows where to reassign18:20
seb128depending on what hits the error18:20
Trevinhopopey: also before LIM? THat's weird anyway :o18:49
* Trevinho wonders where these textures come from18:49
Trevinhoor, could be a compiz setting... in loading textures?18:49
Trevinhocheck your ccsm settings for opengl plugin18:50
popeytexture filter = good18:50
Trevinhomh, no i cheked here and seems not to affect it18:51
Trevinhomh18:51
TrevinhoI'll check that later, fill a bug please... need to go... I'm laaaaaaaaaate :O18:51
popeykk18:51
popeyagainst unity?18:51
popeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/128317118:54
ubot2Launchpad bug 1283171 in unity (Ubuntu) "Visual corruption on window buttons" [Undecided,New]18:54
cyphermoxdesrt: hey19:45
cyphermoxdesrt: is there a way an application could make it impossible for a GDBusProxy to cache its properties if it has some?19:45
desrtcyphermox: no.  that wouldn't be part of the spec.20:01
desrtcyphermox: and it would also be a violation of the (C-facing) interface of GDBusProxty20:02
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