[00:40] <desrt> darkxst: hey... just installed ubuntu gnome trusty alpha 2... looking nice.
[07:28] <darkxst> desrt, thanks ;)
[09:05] <Laney> morning
[09:12] <seb128> Laney, hey, how are you?
[09:12] <seb128> good morning desktopers, happy post-ff friday!
[09:12] <Laney> hey seb128, I'm alright thanks
[09:12] <Laney> been rearranging the sitting room because rosie bought a piano which is coming today ...
[09:13] <Laney> such jenkins spam
[09:13] <Laney> how are you?
[09:16] <seb128> I'm good thanks, looking forward having (hopefully) a quiet friday, after the ff crazyness
[09:16] <seb128> oh, a piano, nice ;-)
[09:17] <Laney> not that I play or read music :P
[09:17] <Laney> except the final fantasty fanfare, I can do that one
[09:17] <seb128> haha
[09:21] <didrocks> we didn't do that for the wedding, but were tempted :p
[09:21] <seb128> you geeks!
[09:22] <didrocks> that would have been too obvious, hiding those 3 musics was better :)
[09:26] <sil2100> It's nice to see so many FF-fans here ;) And I don't mean feature freeze!
[09:26] <didrocks> heh
[09:26] <didrocks> apart from the 11 and 14 (mmorpg), I played them all but the 4, what I need to fix :)
[09:27] <Laney> seb128: just saw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1282847
[09:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1282847 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "desktop ui scale is huge even though the setting is set to a scale of 1" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:27] <seb128> Laney, seems like NOTABUG
[09:28] <sil2100> By 4 you mean the original 4th game? With Kain? I played that one on the emulator in my FF-madness youth
[09:28] <seb128> Laney, but yeah, for some reason the Unity scaling seems to not work
[09:28] <seb128> Trevinho_, bregma: ^ is that known?
[09:29] <Laney> his terminal looks a bit big to me, but yeah the ui should be matching anyway
[09:29] <seb128> well, look at nautilus
[09:29] <seb128> it's a bit big as well
[09:29] <Laney> harder to tell there, for me anyway
[09:29] <seb128> but the GTK scaling is only by int numbers
[09:29] <seb128> so the screen is HiDPI a x2 kicks in
[09:29] <seb128> which gives that result
[09:30] <seb128> 1.5 would be better but that's not possible for GTK
[09:30] <seb128> the issue in that report is that unity doesn't scale
[09:30] <Laney> actually that UI scale slider does nothing for me either
[09:30] <seb128> you can maybe add that the behaviour of Unity/GTK not respecting the same setting is confusing
[09:30] <seb128> right
[09:31] <seb128> hikiko, hey, do you know if the slider you added to to the display config is supposed to make unity change it's scaling? it seems to not work
[09:34] <hikiko> seb128, it works with a new branch we have, we just didnt merge it because there are some other issues to be done first (like panels etc) let me give you my branch
[09:34] <seb128> hikiko, so it mean the feature missed ff (which was yesterday)?
[09:35] <hikiko> https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.ui-scale-factor
[09:36] <hikiko> yes, because when we integrated everything we found 1-2 things that need fixing
[09:36] <hikiko> so we didn't do an MP
[09:37] <Laney> It's a bit strange that we got the slider which doesn't work
[09:37] <hikiko> it works, unity doesn't work yet
[09:37] <hikiko> the slider only updates the setting
[09:39] <Laney> that's not working from a user perspective really
[09:39] <Laney> as you can see it confused the guy who reported the bug I linked to earlier
[09:42] <hikiko> :/
[09:42] <seb128> you confused me as well
[09:42] <seb128> I though that the Unity in landing ask had HiDPI support
[09:43] <seb128> that's quite disappointing
[09:43] <seb128> Trevinho_, bregma: ^
[09:43] <hikiko> I know, but we couldn't merge before getting sure that panels and decorations look fine
[09:43] <seb128> you could have
[09:44] <seb128> default factor is 1
[09:44] <seb128> and users playing with the slider and not having a perfect result is ok
[09:44] <seb128> it's easy to put back the slider to 1
[09:44] <Laney> does something set the g-s-d scaling factor?
[09:44] <seb128> Laney, g-s-d itself :p
[09:44] <Laney> or, mine was 0 - does that mean autodetect?
[09:44] <seb128> yes
[09:48] <seb128> hikiko, anyway thanks for the work, those comments are rather directed to bregma than you ;-)
[09:48] <Laney> is there any syncing with the org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor value?
[09:49] <seb128> I don't think so
[09:49] <seb128> the issue is that the scaling-factor works only on int values
[09:49] <seb128> which is a poor granularity
[09:50] <seb128> that's what gives you nautilus being too big on that screenshot
[09:50] <seb128> it's either too small or too big
[09:50] <Laney> mmm
[09:50] <seb128> the unity factor has been precision
[09:50] <seb128> which works fine for unity and qml
[09:50] <seb128> been->better
[09:50] <Laney> but I guess it does nothing for gtk stuff?
[09:51] <seb128> no
[09:51] <Laney> so that's going to be weird in the other direction
[09:51] <seb128> well, it's going to be weird anyway, even if we couple both options
[09:52] <seb128> if you set 1.5 that's going to be work fine for unity/qml but what do we do for GTK?
[09:52] <seb128> set 1 or 2 ?
[09:52] <Laney> one or the other though
[09:52] <Laney> override the auto detection
[09:53] <seb128> yeah, that makes sense I guess
[09:53] <seb128> it's just going to be weird, going from 1.49 to 1.51 some stuff are going to scale nicely, and GTK is going to do a jump
[09:53] <Laney> got to work with what you're given
[09:54] <seb128> right
[09:58] <seb128> Laney, we should probably put https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=260359bc74dda450dda6bff1c4a17dd126a61b18 back in u-s-d
[09:59] <seb128> e.g disable the autodetection
[09:59] <seb128> then teach the u-c-c slider to write the config to 1 or 2
[10:01] <Sweetshark> moin!
[10:01] <seb128> Sweetshark, hey, how are you?
[10:01] <Laney> you mean revert that?
[10:01] <seb128> Laney, yeah, put the code back I meant
[10:01] <Laney> hmm
[10:01] <seb128> well "code", "workaround"
[10:02] <Laney> you'd just replace the function with 'return 1'
[10:02] <seb128> right
[10:02] <Laney> well, the if block
[10:03] <Laney> does unity do its own autodetection?
[10:04] <hikiko> seb128, I can do a MP right now I think or when bregma's day starts
[10:04] <seb128> Laney, I don't think so
[10:05] <seb128> hikiko, having a mp is the first step toward getting that landed, that would be nice, thanks ;-)
[10:05] <hikiko> but there are some artifacts when you scale up the desktop and I think bschafer knows how to fix them
[10:08] <seb128> hikiko, well, other commits can be pushed later or other branches added to the landing
[10:09] <hikiko> ok
[10:10] <Sweetshark> seb128: 4.2.1 is done, Im happy.
[10:10] <Sweetshark> ;)
[10:10] <seb128> Sweetshark, hey
[10:10] <seb128> Sweetshark, congrats ;-)
[10:12] <hikiko> seb128, maybe wait for bregma and then start landing?
[10:12] <seb128> k
[10:13] <hikiko> thanks :)
[10:15] <hikiko> because my day is over because bregma's and I am not 100% sure that there weren't other blockers after I left
[10:15] <hikiko> :s/because/before
[10:29] <Laney> xnox_: I feel like you asked me to look at something, but I forgot what & where you asked
[10:29] <Laney> halp
[10:35] <xnox_> Laney: i think seb reviewed it already ;-)
[10:35] <xnox_> and robert
[10:35] <Laney> suh-weet
[10:35] <Laney> what was it anyway?
[10:37] <Laney> ah, reviewing FFes, I've missed you
[10:37] <Laney> xnox_: I found it
[10:37] <Laney> why duplicate the code and not put the png in some shared package?
[10:38] <mhr3> heelp
[10:38] <mhr3> i lost printscreen
[10:38] <mhr3> it doesn't take screenshot anymore
[10:38] <mhr3> oh wait... now it did
[10:38] <mhr3> nevermind :)
[10:38] <Laney> wait, mine doesn't work either
[10:38] <Laney> help ME!
[10:38] <xnox_> Laney: the code is slightly different, a logical place to put pngs into base-files, but i don't think a vala or compiler dependency is wanted there.
[10:39] <Laney> ubuntu-artwork or something
[10:39] <xnox_> seb128: re:vala dependency it depends on all gtk stack anyway, thus vala is just small icing on the cake. Doing it in python would have increased dependencies more...
[10:40] <Laney> I just looked at the FFe for the new lock screen
[10:40] <Laney> they want the logo there too
[10:40] <xnox_> Laney: maybe when we go high-dpi and switch to svgs, i'll put it into ubuntu-artwork.
[10:40] <Laney> so that'll be three copies?
[10:40] <xnox_> Laney: lock screen -> is that ubiquity-greeter package or something else?
[10:40] <Laney> similar
[10:41] <Laney> replicating the UI rather than reusing it
[10:41] <Laney> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/166229067/Screenshot%20from%202014-02-13%2023:40:36.png
[10:42] <xnox_> Laney: no, svgs will just go into e.g. ubuntu-artwork and the rest just depend on it....
[10:42] <Laney> but right now everybody just copies the code?
[10:42] <seb128> xnox_, yeah, fair enough
[10:42] <xnox_> Laney: they should just be launching stand-alone unity-greeter in that mode for the lock-screen, instead of redoing it.
[10:43] <Laney> you can assume that was thought of
[10:43] <xnox_> aka --test-mode, but --lock-mode
[10:43] <xnox_> =)
[10:43] <xnox_> ok.
[10:44] <xnox_> Laney: the logo from unity-greeter, can be fetched from unity-greeter.... just load up /usr/share/unity-greeter/logo.png...
[10:44] <Laney> right
[10:44] <Laney> that's not the best dependency though
[10:44] <Laney> so at least I'd have a -data package or something
[10:50]  * xnox_ ponders if one new package metadata is bigger than the two pngs combined....
[10:51] <xnox_> Laney: i don't mind how it's packaged, as long as i see up-to-date digits where-ever i look =)
[10:51] <Laney> zI commented
[10:52] <Laney> I think the project is decent, just want to be careful to avoid duplication if we can
[10:52] <Laney> :-)
[10:52] <didrocks> Laney: btw answered: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1282590/comments/3
[10:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1282590 in Ubuntu "[FFe] standing freeze exception in trusty for Ubuntu Touch-specific packages" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[10:52] <didrocks> the schema one seems a bug to me and the desktop version shouldn't use the touch source
[10:54] <Laney> nope
[10:54] <Laney> they're shared between touch and desktop
[10:54] <didrocks> the source is named -touch though :p
[10:54] <Laney> we just renamed the binary packages to have no -touch in them, the old ones are transitional packages now
[10:55] <Laney> source rename will happen at some point
[10:55] <didrocks> ah
[10:58] <didrocks> anyway, I guess adding a new key to a schema will be a feature coming from another package
[11:00] <Laney> indeed
[11:13] <Laney> aha
[11:14] <xnox_> Laney: yeah, avoiding duplication would be good with these logos.... alas i have other near-miss FeatureFreeze things to attend to =)
[11:15] <Laney> (unity-settings-daemon:31101): media-keys-plugin-WARNING **: Failed to save a screenshot: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMetho
[11:15] <Laney> d: No such interface 'org.gnome.Shell.Screenshot' on object at path /org/gnome/Shell/Screenshot
[11:16] <seb128> Laney, weird, keys are working fine under unity here
[11:16] <seb128> oh, it's for screenshots
[11:16] <Laney> yeah
[11:17] <Laney> looking
[11:18] <seb128> Laney, g-s-d's fix_screenshots_on_unity.patch is missing
[11:18] <seb128> or not
[11:18] <seb128> hum
[11:19] <seb128> oh
[11:19] <seb128>         if (!manager->priv->have_legacy_keygrabber)
[11:19] <seb128>                 gsd_screenshot_take (type);
[11:19] <seb128> Laney, we need to drop the if/else in do_screenshot_action()
[11:19] <seb128> just always use the else case
[11:20] <seb128> since the first one is g-s specific
[11:21] <seb128> Laney, if you come with a fix/mp, I'm happy to review/approve ;-)
[11:21] <Laney> building it to check
[11:22] <Laney> I wonder if there are other similar paths
[11:24] <seb128> looking through the have_legacy_keygrabber mentions I think not
[11:30] <Laney> yeah, that fix works
[11:31] <Laney> I don't know why it started working for mhr3 though
[11:34] <xnox_> seb128: libaccount-plugin-1.0-dev used to be available on ppc64el from src:gnome-control-center-signon, now that has a hard-build-dep on qtdeclarative5-dev and thus libaccount-plugin-1.0-dev is not build =(
[11:34] <xnox_> seb128: but libaccount-plugin-1.0-dev doesn't appear to be qtdeclarative thing...
[11:35] <seb128> xnox_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center-signon/0.1.7~+14.04.20131126.2-0ubuntu1
[11:35] <seb128> no it didn't
[11:35] <seb128> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/157678738/gnome-control-center-signon_0.1.7~%2B14.04.20131126.2-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[11:35] <xnox_> seb128: hm. something i'm looking at is lieying to me.
[11:35] <seb128> +Architecture: i386 amd64 armhf arm64
[11:35] <xnox_> seb128: sorry, ignore me then.
[11:51] <mitya57> How is nautilus started in Unity nowadays? I would expect the session to require nautilus-classic, but that's not the case.
[12:03] <seb128> mitya57, /etc/xdg/autostart/nautilus-autostart.desktop
[12:10] <seb128> Laney, I just approved your mp, feel free to put a landing ask for it
[12:12] <seb128> mitya57, /etc/xdg/autostart/nautilus-autostart.desktop
[12:12] <Laney> sure, do you have anything else?
[12:12] <mitya57> seb128: thanks
[12:13] <seb128> Laney, no, I'm working on u-c-c atm, I'm probably going to have a look to backport some g-s-d fixes but I doubt it's going to be today
[12:13] <Laney> okay
[12:14]  * mitya57 wonders why that doesn't work in bug 1224217 then
[12:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1224217 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "50_ubuntu_sessions.patch causes gnome-flashback sessions not to load" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1224217
[12:14] <mitya57> darkxst: ^ Any thoughts?
[12:16] <mitya57> seb128: whom can I ask about https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/indicator-applet/ftbfs-allow-deprecations/+merge/206999 ? Maybe you can mark it as approved?
[12:17] <didrocks> seb128: ok, so the icon I have in my unmaximized window is the one I'm getting when setting adwaita by default
[12:17] <didrocks> I need to run strace again I guess
[12:17] <seb128> didrocks, yeah, just strace and grep for png
[12:18] <seb128> mitya57: I just approved it
[12:21] <mitya57-mobile> seb128: thanks!
[12:21]  * mitya57-mobile is trying to make all flashback stuff less broken
[12:22] <didrocks> seb128: so, nothing in ~
[12:23] <didrocks> the only icons opens that are similar (but hard to say if they are the same) are the dash ones
[12:23] <seb128> didrocks, it's puzzling, you say it doesn't happen to other users/guest?
[12:23] <didrocks> btw, some designers have the same
[12:23] <didrocks> yeah
[12:23] <didrocks> and same for them, only in their session
[12:23] <seb128> compiz user config?
[12:23] <didrocks> I tried to remove those
[12:23] <didrocks> without any result
[12:24] <seb128> k, I guess it needs debugging from Trevinho_ then
[12:24] <seb128> seems like everybody is getting some sleep after ff rush though
[12:24] <seb128> which seems fair enough ;-)
[12:26] <didrocks> yeah, I'm at loss right now, really don't understand…
[12:26] <didrocks> tried to change the theme
[12:26] <seb128> the wm theme?
[12:26] <didrocks> yeah
[12:26] <didrocks> got a warning that a close.png wasn't found
[12:26] <didrocks> so I guess it falls back to a default
[12:27] <didrocks> but I don't see which/where it does find it…
[12:27] <didrocks> and why it fetched it for unmaximized app
[12:27]  * didrocks is happy at least, to not be lonely in that case
[12:29] <seb128> where do you get that warning?
[12:29] <seb128> is close.png listed in your strace?
[12:29] <didrocks> ok, not a svg either
[12:29] <didrocks> yeah
[12:29] <didrocks> the one in unity theme
[12:30] <didrocks> (which is shown when apps are maximized for me)
[12:30] <didrocks> the warning is in stderr
[12:31] <seb128> is the warning a gtk one?
[12:32] <didrocks> no, for instance, it's:
[12:32] <didrocks> WARN  2014-02-21 13:31:38 unity.decoration.style DecorationStyle.cpp:373 No Window button file for 'Adwaita/unity/close.png'
[12:32] <didrocks> when I load the Adwaita theme
[12:32] <didrocks> (and so, it falls back to that icon, even for maximized)
[12:33] <didrocks> seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/tmp/capure_buttons.png
[12:34] <didrocks> (btw, already saw some bugs with lim)
[12:34] <seb128> I don't have those warnings
[12:34] <seb128> (like?)
[12:34] <didrocks> I don't have those by default
[12:34] <seb128> (seems to work mostly fine for me)
[12:34] <didrocks> only if I use the Adwaita theme
[12:34] <didrocks> like click on a menu
[12:34] <didrocks> then use the keyboard
[12:34] <didrocks> to navigate (left/right)
[12:34] <didrocks> it's jumping to the gobal menu
[12:35] <seb128> wfm
[12:35] <didrocks> thunderbird?
[12:36] <didrocks> doesn't work in chromium for me as well
[12:36] <seb128> works there
[12:36] <didrocks> hum, maybe there is more magic and I need to restart the session
[12:37] <didrocks> well, I'm at loss with those icons (and I have no env variable that's in the code path)
[12:37] <didrocks> let's see once Trevinho_ is around
[12:37] <seb128> yeah
[12:42] <hikiko|lunch>  /nick hikiko
[12:54] <mdeslaur> seb128: whoops, I now have two network indicators
[12:56] <seb128> mdeslaur, uninstall indicator-network?
[12:57] <mdeslaur> seb128: ubuntu-system-settings depends on indicator-network (>= 0.5.0+13.10.20130918)
[12:57] <seb128> mdeslaur, well, why do you have ubuntu-system-settings installed?
[12:58] <seb128> that's the phone's settings
[12:58] <mdeslaur> seb128: I have no idea, something pulled it in :)
[12:58] <mdeslaur> one sec, let me see
[12:58] <seb128> do you have unity8 installed?
[12:58] <mdeslaur> seb128: yes
[12:58] <Laney> there was a brief sad when that got pulled in
[12:58] <ogra_> yeah, see the ML ...
[12:58] <Laney>  [ubuntu/trusty] webkitgtk 2.3.90-1ubuntu1 (Accepted)
[12:58] <Laney> WOOOOOOOOO
[12:59] <seb128> there was one day this week where u-c-c was outdated and the phone stack would be pulled in as an alternative
[12:59] <seb128> ogra_, what ml?
[12:59] <ogra_> seb128, desktop ?
[12:59] <ogra_> "call for testing unity-control-center ..."
[12:59] <seb128> right, that's different
[12:59] <seb128> that doesn't pull unity8 on your desktop installs
[13:00] <ogra_> no, the guy had unity8 installed which pulled in powerd and libhybris
[13:00] <ogra_> (kai mast)
[13:01] <mdeslaur> seb128: so I can uninstall all the unity8* packages?
[13:01] <seb128> yes
[13:03] <mdeslaur> seb128: ok, besides indicator-network, ubuntu-system-settings, unity8*, ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, account-plugin-ubuntuone and unity-scope-click, anything else come to mind as being unneeded?
[13:03] <seb128> no, but autoremove should help there
[13:04] <mdeslaur> oh, right, autoremove
[13:04] <mdeslaur> thanks seb128
[13:04] <seb128> yw!
[13:08] <desrt> seb128, Laney: happy day-after
[13:08] <desrt> glad you both survived :)
[13:08] <seb128> desrt, hey, happy friday! thanks -;)
[13:09] <desrt> seb128: hm.  i see your nose got damaged in the battle yesterday
[13:09] <Laney> hey desrt
[13:09] <seb128> lol, indeed :p
[13:09] <Laney> guten freitag
[13:09] <ogra_> ++
[13:09] <desrt> ogra_: hope everything went nicely for you too :)
[13:09] <seb128> desrt, btw, I've been watching some curling on TV, it's actually somewhat fun to watch ;-)
[13:10] <desrt> YES
[13:10] <Laney> oh yes
[13:10] <desrt> curling is the shit... seriously
[13:10]  * Laney is timing lunch right today
[13:10] <ogra_> desrt, my nemesis is still up ... MWC only starts on monday ;)
[13:10] <seb128> Laney, let's see if the rain manage to get you again!
[13:10] <desrt> 'MWC freeze'
[13:10] <Laney> seb128: it's a lunch of staying in and watching team gb :P
[13:11] <ogra_> well, touch has a standing exception :)
[13:11] <seb128> Laney, +1 for that ;-)
[13:11] <Laney> although all curlers seem to be scottish
[13:11] <Laney> also: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-olympics/26257895
[13:11] <desrt> Laney: i guess all scottish curlers are probably scottish?
[13:12] <Laney> i assume that to be the case
[13:12] <ogra_> https://imgflip.com/gif/724jp
[13:12] <desrt> hahahah.  david attenborough narrates.  that's so perfect.
[13:12] <desrt> curling is just like a nature flick
[13:13] <desrt> relaxing and majestic... until all hell breaks loose
[13:16] <seb128> Laney, yeah, the french commentators keep saying "the scottish team" following by "sorry, they are members of the scotisch team usually, but they play for gb during the olympics" ;-)
[13:16] <Laney> haha
[13:16] <Laney> we have the "national ice centre" here, maybe I could try it there
[13:16] <desrt> i think it might be a bit the same with curling everywhere
[13:17] <desrt> typically the team is one particular club from the country that has beaten all of the other clubs in the country
[13:17] <desrt> so they're usually all from the same city, in fact
[13:18] <desrt> i was following the scotties during the sprint -- that's the canadian women's.... each province had a team (plus a team for yukon+NWT) plus the winners from last year playing as "team canada" (who were from ontario)
[13:18] <desrt> ontario won, of course :)
[13:18] <seb128> hehe
[13:19] <desrt> (hmm.. "scotties"... maybe this scottish theory has something to it....)
[13:20] <seb128> "scottish theory"?
[13:20] <desrt> 08:11 < Laney> although all curlers seem to be scottish
[13:20] <seb128> oh
[13:21] <seb128> the stones are coming from Scotland at least
[13:21] <ogra_> mick jagger would disagree
[13:30] <seb128> Sweetsha1k, hunspell-fr synced btw, you need to MIR it next I think
[13:56] <xnox_> XklConfigItem now returns a list, instead of a bytearray in the name properly.
[13:56] <xnox_> (property)
[13:58] <denisw> sorry for interrupting, but *thanks* for the integrated Unity menubars!
[13:58] <denisw> these make the app menus of several gnome apps feel 99% less awkward, and work much better with multi-window apps like gimp and empathy
[13:58] <larsu_> denisw: thank Trevinho_ :)
[13:59] <denisw> Trevinho_, thanks! love your work :)
[14:01] <denisw> larsu_, and yours too, of course ;) will there be more apps converted from app menus to classic menus, or are these changes not allowed anymore after feature freeze?
[14:01] <Trevinho_> denisw: yw ;)
[14:01] <Trevinho_> I hope it will be still posssible till UI freeze
[14:01] <desrt> Laney: uh oh....
[14:02] <seb128> xnox_, is http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libxklavier/commit/?id=115a22dfff5ea59cdcf8a5a7f8e15ffd71164c1c your issue?
[14:02] <Trevinho> larsu_: about that, is there something planned for nautilus? :)
[14:02] <seb128> Trevinho, larsu is working on it
[14:02] <xnox_> seb128: yes, that's nice. i want that in trusty.
[14:03] <xnox_> seb128: let me test-build it and check that it helps.
[14:03] <denisw> i guess nautilus is pretty difficult, having looked at the code a few days ago
[14:03] <larsu_> denisw: I'll try to get an exception
[14:04] <seb128> xnox_, k, let me know (and blame pitti for the g-i changes ;-)
[14:05] <denisw> larsu_, cool :) any way to help on this?
[14:06] <denisw> (the coding, i mean)
[14:06] <seb128> oh, a larsu_
[14:06] <seb128> larsu_,  good morning ;-)
[14:06] <seb128> larsu_, happy friday!
[14:06] <larsu_> hey :)
[14:06] <larsu_> you too!
[14:07] <larsu_> denisw: thanks! I'm afraid not, it's just some tedious gtkaction -> gaction porting. I'd be happy about tester, though :)
[14:08] <seb128> Trevinho, bregma: do you plan to do a landing today to enable hidpi?
[14:08] <desrt> (3nd end) Canada 2, GB 1
[14:08] <larsu> seb128: I still don't have a clue how I couldend up with the wrong u-c-c branch. I'm rebasing my patches right now.
[14:09] <larsu> desrt: morning :)
[14:09] <desrt> morning :)
[14:09] <seb128> desrt, trolling Laney? ;-)
[14:09] <bregma> seb128, working on it
[14:09] <desrt> seb128: laney's TV is trolling him :)
[14:09] <xnox_> seb128: i wonder if grouper tablets are good to test unity7 desktop, based on old images =)
[14:09] <denisw> larsu, ping me when you need one ;) i'm going to hang around here as regularly as i can in the future
[14:09] <seb128> larsu, yeah, that's a mystery to me as well...
[14:09] <larsu> denisw: awesome
[14:09] <larsu> seb128: bzr sucks!
[14:09] <seb128> lol
[14:09]  * larsu hides
[14:09] <seb128> oh, it's friday
[14:09] <seb128> :p
[14:09] <desrt> (larsu says) git 1, bzr 0
[14:09] <larsu> I would have said this on any other day as well :P
[14:10] <larsu> desrt: what is this, 2010?
[14:10] <larsu> the count is quite different now
[14:10] <Trevinho> seb128: no idea, I've not checked the work on it yet :)
[14:10] <larsu> (with negative points for bzr)
[14:10] <seb128> Trevinho, I'm pretty disappointed that the landing from yesterday didn't actually enable the feature, you guys need a ffe now
[14:10] <seb128> bregma, ^ btw, need a ffe now
[14:11] <Trevinho> seb128: really? The feature is there, it's only missing the config...
[14:11] <larsu> it was in the news, so it has to get an exception now!
[14:11] <larsu> neat plan btw ;)
[14:11] <seb128> Trevinho, no, the feature is not there
[14:11] <seb128> Trevinho, if it's not active it's not tested, so it's not there
[14:11] <larsu> is it on by default?
[14:11] <seb128> no
[14:11] <seb128> it's not possible to enable either
[14:11] <larsu> hm
[14:11] <seb128> it needs code patch to be enabled
[14:11] <larsu> weird
[14:12] <seb128> larsu, you can go to the display capplet and try to move the slider and see how nothings happens :p
[14:13] <Trevinho> seb128: I've to check but I think the code landed is actually possible to enable it
[14:13] <Trevinho> seb128: by setting the UI factor
[14:14] <seb128> Trevinho, no, that's what the u-c-c panel does
[14:14] <Trevinho> at least that was the last branch I sent
[14:14] <seb128> that has no effect
[14:14] <seb128> Trevinho, hikiko said it was disabled on purposed because some bits are still buggy
[14:15] <hikiko> Trevinho, https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.ui-scale-factor/+merge/207610 here's my branch
[14:15] <hikiko> when I merged my code to lim
[14:15] <Trevinho> hikiko: ok
[14:15] <hikiko> the decorations had some artifacts and delayed to update sometimes
[14:15] <Trevinho> seb128: btw per se the feature is usable, it only needs to connect to proper options, I wouldn't call this a feature.. but ok, if we need a FFe...
[14:16] <seb128> Trevinho, well, there is no obvious way to test the feature so I would say it got 0 testing
[14:16] <seb128> Trevinho, the purpose of the freeze is to make sure we don't enable new codepaths/start testing things late
[14:17] <seb128> Trevinho, but let's not argue about it, it's just slightly disappointing the option didn't get actually connected to the setting in the landing from yesterday, I landing the control center expecting unity would use it
[14:17] <xnox_> seb128: yeah, i want that patch. should i upload with or without version change in configure.ac? i was thinking without.
[14:17] <seb128> Trevinho, now we get bug reports than the slider doesn't work
[14:17] <xnox_> one can test if the method exists easy enough.
[14:18] <xnox_> (in any language)
[14:18] <desrt> Laney: looking bad...
[14:18] <xnox_> seb128: or let me work it out in ubiquity.
[14:18] <Trevinho> seb128: I understand that
[14:18] <seb128> xnox_, you might just want to take their new tarball/update? there is like 5 commits on http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libxklavier/
[14:19] <xnox_> seb128: yeah, i'll do that.
[14:19] <xnox_> seb128: and it will make ubiquity code simple.
[14:19] <seb128> good
[14:20] <seb128> xnox_, what are you hacking in ubiquity?
[14:20] <xnox_> seb128: bug #1282640
[14:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1282640 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "ubiquity crashed with AttributeError in item_str(): 'list' object has no attribute 'find'" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1282640
[14:21] <seb128> oh, so bug fix, not new feature
[14:21] <xnox_> seb128: the field in question changed from a bytearray to a string, so i have options to reassemble a bytearray from the list and continue use old hacks to extract a name str.
[14:21] <xnox_> seb128: or update the library and get the name with like .get_name() which will return a proper string to me straight off the bat.
[14:21] <xnox_> at the moment ubiquity does not launch.
[14:22] <desrt> (4th end) Canada 5, GB 1
[14:23] <xnox_> desrt: yeah, pathetic..... first cleared our own stones out of the house, then didn't quite clear all the canadian stones....
[14:23] <xnox_> desrt: are you canadian?
[14:23] <desrt> yup
[14:23] <desrt> i should note that i have no particular sense of attachment to this specific team...
[14:23] <xnox_> i clearly should get back into curling.... these lads are crap =)
[14:31] <xnox_> i love british commentry "I'm not sure what else could possibly go wrong."
[14:34] <Trevinho> seb128: however setting org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor mostly work for now (except text)
[14:36] <seb128> it doesn't impact on unity though
[14:36] <Laney> desrt: the pain!
[14:37] <desrt> Laney: sorry dude
[14:38] <desrt> seems your guys are having an off day :/
[14:38] <Laney> the commentators are trying to be positive
[14:38] <Laney> kinda funny
[14:38]  * desrt was hoping for a more interesting game
[14:39] <desrt> well... here's something to be positive about
[14:39] <desrt> if you did manage to pull through, it would be amazingly awesome
[14:39] <desrt> one for the books, to be sure
[14:39] <desrt> maybe that's the plan all along?
[14:42] <seb128> desrt, nice one on the women's hockey btw, coming back from 2-0 in 3 minutes and winning in overtime
[14:43] <desrt> seb128: ya.. that's another one for the books, indeed :)
[14:43] <seb128> ;-)
[14:46] <xnox_> desrt: why win easy, when one can win it HARD?!
[14:46] <xnox_> =)
[14:46] <Laney> HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD
[14:47]  * xnox_ sings: we can go hard or we can go home....
[14:48] <desrt> if it gives you guys any consolation, this will be a hollow victor for me :p
[15:34] <desrt> (8th end) Canada 8, GB 3
[15:35] <Laney> hand shake time
[15:35]  * desrt shakes Laney's hand
[15:36] <desrt> sorry about that :/
[15:36] <Laney> well played
[15:36] <xnox_> =(
[15:36] <desrt> i think your guys just had an off day, unfortunately
[15:37] <desrt> silver is nothing to scoff at, though
[15:37] <xnox_> well if your 4th is not making the shots.... there is not much else that can help.
[15:37] <Laney> i quite want to try it now
[15:38] <desrt> Laney: well, then we've all won :)
[15:38] <desrt> curling is a lot of fun
[15:38] <Laney> haha
[15:39] <Laney> the nearest place on trycurling.com is in wales, 79 miles away
[15:40] <xnox_> i played curling in canada it was a lot of fun.
[15:42]  * jpds wonders if Laney's part of http://newsthump.com/2014/02/21/british-curling-hooligans-decimate-sochi/
[15:42] <Laney> haha
[15:43] <jpds> http://newsthump.com/2014/02/20/britain-to-petition-winter-olympics-for-inclusion-of-longest-pavement-skid/
[15:53] <seb128> Laney, do you have some time to review (or just ack changes for me? ;-)
[15:54] <Laney> seb128: yeah shortly, do 'request review' so i get emailed
[15:57] <seb128> Laney, ok; 2 u-c-c reviews sent your way, attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1283115
[15:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1283115 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "[ffe] backport of some 3.8 improvements and bugfixes" [High,Confirmed]
[15:57] <Laney> ty
[15:58] <seb128> thank *you* for reviewing ;-)
[16:04] <Laney> hmm
[16:04] <Laney> how do I get the osk layout to go to chinese?
[16:05] <seb128> Laney, you go to the settings language panel and select chinese?
[16:05] <seb128> I didn't try but you should be able to change from there
[16:06] <Laney> yeah, it's still in english
[16:06] <Laney> even after rebooting
[16:07] <Laney> was going to look at that chinese search bug, but i probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to type the right things anyway
[16:07] <seb128> Laney, btw about that logo bug, the login screen and c-c don't use the same logo, the c-c one has the orange circle with the lable bellow it, the greeter has one line
[16:07] <Laney> yeah
[16:07] <seb128> so we can't share 1 image
[16:07] <Laney> but the code is almost the same, it can be made to generate both
[16:07] <seb128> we would generate the bunch of images in ubuntu-artwork though
[16:07] <seb128> could*
[16:07] <Laney> that's the plan
[16:08] <seb128> good, I like that ;-)
[16:08] <seb128> Laney, chinese osk, I wonder if there is a plugin for the osk to install that is not on the default image?
[16:09] <Laney> no idea
[16:09] <Laney> it's offered as an option
[16:10] <Laney> the button in the bottom left is chinese
[16:10] <seb128> right, same here
[16:10] <seb128> I guess ask bfiller&co
[16:12] <seb128> 吃
[16:12] <seb128> well, works on the desktop
[16:12] <seb128> that seems rather a toolkit/osk issue if it doesn't work, we use a standard widget
[16:13] <Laney> works to search?
[16:13] <Laney> true, I could try that on my desktop
[16:18] <seb128> Laney, works to input chinese through pinyin
[16:18] <seb128> the report says "It doesn't able to input Chinese"
[16:18] <seb128> it might be what you said, the osk doesn't input chinese
[16:18] <Laney> ah
[16:18] <Laney> nice, I thought it was a searching bug
[16:18] <Laney> HAH, U-S-S WINS AGAIN
[16:18] <seb128> ;-)
[16:21] <pitti> Good morning
[16:21] <Laney> nobody is here today
[16:21] <Laney> bah!
[16:21] <Laney> hey pitti
[16:22] <seb128> pitti, good morning! how is California?
[16:23] <pitti> seb128: haven't really seen much of it since Sunday, been stuck in the hotel and working long hours all week :)
[16:23] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[16:23] <seb128> :-(
[16:23] <seb128> when do you fly back?
[16:24] <Laney> pitti: I'm alright, had a cough but it's on the way out now
[16:24] <Laney> also a beer festival tomorrow: http://nwaf.org.uk/ :-)
[16:24] <pitti> seb128: tonight, will be back home tomorrow night
[16:25] <Laney> seb128: hmm, I can switch to azerty
[16:25] <seb128> k, no hangout around in SF on saturday then
[16:25] <Laney> blaming osk for now, will ask the reporter what he means though
[16:25] <seb128> Laney, that feels good right ;-)
[16:25] <seb128> yeah, I would blame the osk/ask for details as well
[16:25] <Laney> it was a bit buggy though
[16:26] <seb128> ok, I've been sticking to the computer all week with the ff madness, today I can actual go do some exercice
[16:26] <Laney> like it said '2' and wouldn't let me deselect english
[16:26] <seb128> :-(
[16:26] <Laney> then I quit u-s-s and restarted it
[16:26] <Laney> and it said 'français' there
[16:26] <Laney> s/f/F/
[16:26] <seb128> those a coming from gsettings I think?
[16:26] <seb128> but feel free to register a bug if you can easily reproduce
[16:26] <seb128> ok, I'm out for an hour for some exercice
[16:27] <Laney> ya
[16:27] <Laney> ok, have fun
[16:27] <seb128> then going to land u-c-c (if I got the reviews/ffes by then ;-) and do a nautilus upload
[16:27] <seb128> then calling it a week
[16:27] <seb128> thanks
[16:27] <Laney> pitti: cool on the new adt arches
[16:28] <seb128> indeed, nice work there
[16:28] <Laney> did you see anything like https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/trusty-adt-glib2.0-ppc64/1/console ?
[16:28] <seb128> ok, bbiab
[16:28] <pitti> Laney: will take a bit to sort out the fallout, but surprisingly most of the faillures are not really arch specific
[16:28] <pitti> but missing dependencies or insufficient isolation from a container
[16:28] <Laney> /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: /lib/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst)
[16:30] <pitti> Laney: argh, did you see that in a recent log?
[16:30] <Laney> there are only two logs there
[16:30] <Laney> but it's in both of them
[16:30] <pitti> Laney: I thought I fixed all the containers yesterday, but that broken glibc version keeps coming back on wolfe-04
[16:31] <pitti> I killed the lXC cache, the containers, rebuilt them from scratch
[16:31] <Laney> they're not 'recent'
[16:31] <pitti> Laney: oh, -ppc64
[16:31] <pitti> Laney: yes, they are old
[16:31] <Laney> ack
[16:31] <jibel> pitti, it is an old build, you fixed it afterwards
[16:31] <pitti> Laney: the current ones are -ppc64el, I sent an RT yesterday to remove all the -ppc64 logs
[16:31] <Laney> okay
[16:31] <Laney> it's the one I got an email about ;-)
[16:38] <Sweetsha1k> seb128: thx, will take care of that.
[16:49] <xnox_> doping control!
[16:49] <xnox_>  -ECHAN
[16:50] <Laney> seems appropriate
[16:54] <xclaesse> hey, that option to have menu in the window decorator is awesome. Nice job :)
[16:57] <mpt> didrocks, you can now turn off bug tracking for https://launchpad.net/light-themes
[16:59] <didrocks> mpt: done
[16:59] <mpt> Thanks!
[17:03] <didrocks> yw
[17:06] <mpt> didrocks, and the same with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-artwork
[17:18] <mpt> Hey mvo!
[17:23] <didrocks> mpt: (was in meeting) done
[17:36] <mdeslaur> Trevinho: so if I maximize a window, and then unmaximize it, menus stay in the title bar...is there a bug filed for that?
[17:37] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: I can't reproduce, but I think no
[17:37] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: as for that positioning fix I 've a fix, although I've to improve that
[17:37] <desrt> darkxst: hey... hitting some gdm issues.  know anything about that?
[17:38] <mdeslaur> Trevinho: so what do I file the bug against...compiz?
[17:38] <mdeslaur> Trevinho: or unity?
[17:38] <Trevinho> no, unity
[17:38] <Trevinho> all is unity now
[17:38] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: what apps?
[17:39] <mdeslaur> all of them...firefox, gnome-terminal for sure
[17:39] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: however, having the output of
[17:39] <Trevinho> gdbus call -e -d com.canonical.Unity -o /com/canonical/Unity/Debug --method com.canonical.Autopilot.Introspection.GetState "/Unity/PanelController/UnityPanel/MenuView/"
[17:39] <Trevinho> can help
[17:39] <Trevinho> (when restored)
[17:39] <mdeslaur> Trevinho: the menus go away as soon as another window gets focus
[17:44] <mdeslaur> Trevinho: filed bug 1283156
[17:44] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1283156 in unity (Ubuntu) "menus switch to window title when window is unmaximized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1283156
[17:44] <mdeslaur> Trevinho: this new feature is awesome BTW, congrats on landing it ;)
[17:44] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: thanks ;)
[17:45] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: have you able to get that debug output?
[17:45] <mdeslaur> Trevinho: Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface 'com.canonical.Autopilot.Introspection' on object at path /com/canonical/Unity/Debug
[17:45] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: mh ah.
[17:45] <Trevinho> wait
[17:45] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: install ...
[17:46] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: libxpathselect1.4
[17:46] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: restart unity.. and it should be there
[17:47] <mdeslaur> Trevinho: is there an easy way to restart unity without interrupting what I'm currently working on?
[17:49] <mdeslaur> Trevinho: actually, nm, I'll just restart my session, one sec
[17:49] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: oh, yeah
[17:49] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: nohup compiz --replace &
[17:50] <mdeslaur> ah, cool, thanks
[17:50] <seb128> Laney, I'm back, saw your comment about the history not working for you
[17:51] <mdeslaur> Trevinho: ok, pasted output to bug
[17:52] <seb128> Laney, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692253 has some debugging hints
[17:52] <ubot2> Gnome bug 692253 in User Accounts "user-accounts: empty login history window" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[17:54] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: indeed... That's an issue that I fixed, but it seems it got reverted by a merge :/
[17:54] <mdeslaur> Trevinho: whoops :(
[17:54] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: thanks for point it out
[17:54] <mdeslaur> np! :)
[17:55] <Laney> seb128: does it work for you?
[17:55] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: feel free to remove that lib you installed if you want
[17:55] <Trevinho> mdeslaur: ah, that log was when the window was restored, right?
[17:55] <mdeslaur> Trevinho: yes, when the window was unmaximized and the problem was active
[17:57] <seb128> Laney, now that you mention it, in a buggy way, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/users.png
[17:57] <seb128> Laney, e.g it's missing records for sure ... I'm going to debug it
[17:57] <seb128> Laney, I guess that landing can wait monday anyway
[17:58] <Laney> yeah, no rush
[17:58] <Laney> you can land the bluetooth one if you want
[17:58] <seb128> thanks
[17:58] <Laney> & the artwork thing
[17:58] <seb128> I'm going to land ... that
[17:58] <seb128> ;-)
[17:58] <Laney> cool
[17:59] <seb128> thanks for the review&testing&pointing that commit for the warnings
[17:59] <Laney> $vcs blame for the win
[17:59] <seb128> I cleaned all the other warnings I was getting but I wanted to go for exercice and pushed what I got
[18:00] <desrt> for all of its failings, i love that bzr has 'bzr praise'
[18:00] <desrt> that's seriously clever
[18:00] <Laney> haha
[18:00] <Laney> they're both aliases to 'annotate'
[18:01] <desrt> it's just so polite!
[18:01] <desrt> bzr -- the kind person's vcs
[18:01] <seb128> bzr - vcs for ubuntu being
[18:01] <desrt> :)
[18:01] <desrt> my code is what it is because of what all the other people's code is
[18:01] <Laney> needs moar naked people
[18:02] <desrt> (a statement which is very true, by the way -- and is really the essence of the ubuntu spirit, if you think about it)
[18:03] <desrt> i might hate on x11 or whatever, but if it didn't existed, then the code that i wrote is kinda pointless
[18:05] <Laney> that is a good note to begin a weekend on
[18:05] <Laney> au revoir desktop pals
[18:05] <desrt> Laney: go check out a curling rink :)
[18:05] <Laney> beer festival & parents visiting
[18:05] <desrt> that works too :)
[18:05] <desrt> have a good one!
[18:05] <Laney> & climbing of course
[18:05] <Laney> you too!
[18:05] <seb128> Laney, have a nice w.e!
[18:06] <desrt> darkxst: i take it back... dist-upgrade and gdm seems to be happy again.
[18:06] <Laney> (actually I just bought game dev tycoon, so I'll be 'here', just in a different position :P)
[18:06] <seb128> xnox_, want to update https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/unity-control-center/versioned-logo/+merge/207574 to change the string?
[18:07] <Laney> feel free to stack one on that and self approve imo
[18:07] <desrt> classic -- apport pops up a dialog "System problem detected" just as i press 'Y' on 'apt-get remove apport'
[18:07] <desrt> yup apport -- you have indeed detected a problem... FOR YOURSELF
[18:07] <xnox_> seb128: it looks ugly with LTS
[18:08] <Laney> "Just what do you think you're doing, Ryan?"
[18:08] <desrt> Laney: ;)
[18:08] <Laney> apport 9000
[18:09] <desrt> we could use a 'developer mode'
[18:09] <desrt> like "i know stuff is crashing -- and it's my fault...." mode
[18:14] <seb128> xnox_, well, it's the name of the distro :p
[18:15] <seb128> xnox_, or the version rather
[18:15] <seb128> desrt, there is a checkbox "don't bug me again about that software" no?
[18:15] <desrt> this was "system problem" and it had no such checkbox
[18:15] <desrt> just cancel|report
[18:16] <desrt> seems that ubuntu on the touch laptops is not perfect...
[18:16] <desrt> lots of errors on startup and lots of non-working features (screen brightness, etc)
[18:17] <didrocks> Trevinho: seems popey also has (some other) close window button theme issue
[18:17] <didrocks> Trevinho: and as I talked with seb128 earlier, some designers as well
[18:17] <popey> i do
[18:17] <didrocks> Trevinho: so, there is really a bug ;)
[18:17] <seb128> desrt, the Xorg.0.log is spammed with input xorg backtraces for me
[18:17] <popey> Trevinho: http://i.imgur.com/XNAV67E.jpg
[18:18] <xnox_> seb128: ok, all fixed.
[18:18] <Laney> seems mlankhorst needs one of these laptops ;-)
[18:18] <seb128> xnox_, thanks
[18:18] <seb128> yeah
[18:18] <desrt> seb128: i don't seem to have that problem, at least
[18:18] <desrt> seb128: gnome is running nicely -- nicer than fedora, even
[18:18] <seb128> desrt, what binaries have an apport?
[18:18] <desrt> seb128: i don't know -- apport is already gone :)
[18:18] <Laney> if you press report then it should give you the normal dialog
[18:18] <seb128> desrt, I don't see any user visible issue, I just happened to open the xorg log the other day and noticed all the errors
[18:18] <seb128> desrt, ls /var/crash
[18:18] <mlankhorst> o.O
[18:19] <Laney> that means that it wants your password
[18:19] <desrt> seb128: xserver-xorg-video-intel :)
[18:19] <seb128> k
[18:19] <desrt> and ya... lots of them
[18:19] <mlankhorst> oh btw I already have a preliminary lts backport
[18:19] <seb128> lot of xorg?
[18:19] <desrt> no.
[18:19]  * didrocks waves good evening and good week-end
[18:19] <seb128> desrt, can you pastebin the list?
[18:19] <desrt> but i don't understand how i get reports about xserver-xorg-video-intel
[18:19] <desrt> didrocks: goodnight
[18:19] <Laney> bye didrocks!
[18:20] <seb128> why?
[18:20] <didrocks> thanks, you too desrt, Laney!
[18:20] <desrt> seb128: it's only the one thing: over and over the intel driver
[18:20] <seb128> ah, k
[18:20] <seb128> so it's what I was saying :p
[18:20] <desrt> seb128: because it's not a binary -- just a module for another binary
[18:20] <desrt> ie: the x server
[18:20] <mlankhorst> well, almost
[18:20] <seb128> apport knows where to reassign
[18:20] <seb128> depending on what hits the error
[18:49] <Trevinho> popey: also before LIM? THat's weird anyway :o
[18:49]  * Trevinho wonders where these textures come from
[18:49] <Trevinho> or, could be a compiz setting... in loading textures?
[18:50] <Trevinho> check your ccsm settings for opengl plugin
[18:50] <popey> texture filter = good
[18:51] <Trevinho> mh, no i cheked here and seems not to affect it
[18:51] <Trevinho> mh
[18:51] <Trevinho> I'll check that later, fill a bug please... need to go... I'm laaaaaaaaaate :O
[18:51] <popey> kk
[18:51] <popey> against unity?
[18:54] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1283171
[18:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1283171 in unity (Ubuntu) "Visual corruption on window buttons" [Undecided,New]
[19:45] <cyphermox> desrt: hey
[19:45] <cyphermox> desrt: is there a way an application could make it impossible for a GDBusProxy to cache its properties if it has some?
[20:01] <desrt> cyphermox: no.  that wouldn't be part of the spec.
[20:02] <desrt> cyphermox: and it would also be a violation of the (C-facing) interface of GDBusProxty
[22:12] <darkxst> mitya57, nautilus-classic.desktop is not an autostart file