[00:00] <quants> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968310/
[00:00] <Brian666>  Free Windows 7 Machine ! Connect via  Team Viewer User ID:  826749216 Password : 5026
[00:00] <Bashing-om> quants: looking at 8310
[00:01] <grisza> Jordan_U   I change BIOSS on usb first , but when i restart is write "boot error
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: ok. seems that has a DV connection for video transfer
[00:02] <asdfasdfasdf> hitsujiTMO somethings acting up when i do apt-get update it says this error    W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures could not be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D8D75E403EBCE749
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> asdfasdfasdf: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys D8D75E403EBCE749
[00:05] <tripelb2> this place does not answer my questions any more. years ago it was different. Very busy very pro.
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: you need to connect it via firewire/DV to get the video off AND you need to use editing software too. not sure what is available on linux for that
[00:05] <Bashing-om> quants: It is there, so we are good ! .. next is to edit the file. -> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list <- Arrown down to line 62 "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner"arrow over to the end of the line, and carefully backspace out that entire line and the line 61 preceeding it. save the file and exit back to terminal. pastebin when done so I can see.
[00:07] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, ok, I was using the usb port. I will look for a DV cord.
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: openshot should work
[00:07] <AssociateX> thank you
[00:07] <damagna_> tripelb2: +
[00:10] <grisza> Jordan_U   I change BIOSS on usb first , but when i restart is write "boot error
[00:11] <Jordan_U> grisza: Is this a BIOS based or UEFI based system?
[00:11] <grisza> i dont know what you mean
[00:12] <grisza> UEFI ?
[00:12] <quants> Bashing-om line 62 didn't exist in the original file http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968373/
[00:14] <Bashing-om> Qasker: Your http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968166/ refers, it is there !
[00:14] <Qasker> excuse me?
[00:14] <grisza> Jordan_U what you mean?
[00:15] <Qasker> Bashing-om ?
[00:16] <Jordan_U> grisza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface
[00:17] <Qasker> Bashing-om please do not highlight me if you have nothing to say
[00:18] <Bashing-om> Qasker: sorry bout that, not paying proper attention, Will pay closer attention.
[00:20] <Bashing-om> quants: Do not know what you did or did not do. A duplication still exist in that last pastbin. Did you only remove one line ?
[00:20] <funky> hello
[00:21] <funky> who here used XRDP?
[00:21] <quants> Bashing-om yes i only took away line 61
[00:25] <Qasker> thank you
[00:25] <Bashing-om> quants: OK, my instructions were to remove two lines. at that time it was lines 61 and 62, now remove the last line (60) as it is a duplication of line 53.
[00:26] <quants> Bashing-om got you :0
[00:28] <quants> Bashing-om done
[00:29] <quants> I did wonder but the number of lines through me a little.
[00:29] <wolfy1339> how do i make apt not remove packages when installing a new package
[00:30] <Bashing-om> quants: Great. let's fire for effect, -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- We want to see no errors !
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: don't install conflicting packages then
[00:31] <AlecTaylor> hi
[00:32] <asdfasdfasdf> hitsujiTMO I have a wierd error where if i create something on my regular user acccount my root account doesnt even think its there it just says like There is no directory of that name or something like that and I cant login to ftp as root to send over files and theres a dilemma   because i cant use java commands as user but i can use them as root but i cant see any files that i transfer over
[00:32] <quants> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968439/
[00:32] <asdfasdfasdf> AS root and but i can as user
[00:33] <Bashing-om> quants: looking at 8439
[00:34] <lebafar> How do I figure the ip of at an ubuntu server?
[00:34] <wafflejock> lebafar: where is the server?
[00:34] <lebafar> wafflejock, here.
[00:34] <Bashing-om> quants: Outstanding ! You do good work. Any questions as to what we did and why ?
[00:34] <wafflejock> if you're logged in locally you can use ifconfig
[00:35] <snadge> 12.04 lts doesnt fit on a cdrom does it?
[00:35] <wafflejock> if it has a DNS name you can use nslookup to find the IP
[00:35] <wafflejock> snadge: no
[00:35] <wafflejock> snadge: you need the minimal install CD I believe for any of the modern version or else a DVD or flash drive
[00:35] <lebafar> wafflejock, I need to figure a  way to set ip, router, mas e dns new.
[00:36] <lebafar> mask*
[00:36] <snadge> wafflejock: i need a recovery environment that will boot off cdrom though
[00:36] <ruien> lebafar: depends what you're trying to do. If you're just trying to get your IP as the external world sees it, try "curl http://ifconfig.me/". If you're trying to set up static IPs and such, you do that in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:36] <snadge> basically need to dd the hard drive of an ancient obsolete system, to a network share
[00:36] <wafflejock> lebafar: can you do lsb_release -a in the terminal to get the exact version you're using, in general you should have a network applet in the panel you can use to edit the settings
[00:36] <quants> Bashing-om as I understand it we changed the file that the computer looks at when updating. ??
[00:37] <lebafar> wafflejock, 13.10
[00:37] <wafflejock> snadge: believe the LiveCD will work out
[00:37] <wafflejock> snadge: er rather minimal CD
[00:37] <Bashing-om> quants: Yep, somehow a duplication crept into the control file, and all we did was take the dupes out of it.
[00:37] <wafflejock> snadge: think it will give you a terminal where you can do what you need, alternatively Clonezilla works pretty well in my experience
[00:38] <wafflejock> it's a bootable CD with DD and some nice menus for handling setting up network interface and stuff before doing the dd
[00:38] <wafflejock> lebafar: normal Ubuntu with Unity?
[00:39] <lebafar> wafflejock, yes, server though.
[00:39] <quants> Bashing-om i can see all the logic behind oll this stuff but never know how to make the changes myself.
[00:39] <wafflejock> ah k
[00:39] <snadge> does clonezilla have gddrescue?
[00:39] <snadge> or does it just use a normal dd
[00:39] <wafflejock> snadge: I believe it's just regular dd not positive on that though
[00:40] <Bashing-om> quants: Hey, you have taken the 1st steps, one day you will be command line sumerai !
[00:40] <wafflejock> lebafar: I've done it before using my NAS but don't know well enough to guide you
[00:40] <quants> Bashing-om maybe :) thanks for your help, its very kind of you
[00:41] <Bashing-om> quants: If you are interested read -> man ls , man cp <- and from there follow your curiosity.
[00:41] <wafflejock> lebafar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zUx9pMXUps
[00:42] <wafflejock> lebafar: this looks similar to what I did (was on an old Debian distro called SARGE)
[00:43] <tripelb2> damagna_, did you type + because you wanted to address my question (hope!)
[00:43] <quants> Bashing-om now one question, is it worth changing to a higher distribution of ubuntu? im running 12.04 LTS atm. ill take a look at the book.
[00:43] <lebafar> wafflejock, I put it on bridge mode. Now I think it shall show me a nice ip :P
[00:44] <wafflejock> lebafar: ah yeah in VBox you need bridge mode to get it on the LAN
[00:52] <Jordan_U> guestasdfasdf: Vegue references to error messages aren't very helpful. How are you uploading files? What command are you running to check for these files?
[00:52] <ajoul> HOW TO FIND WHAT VERSION I HAVE OF UBUNTU?
[00:52] <daftykins> ajoul: cat /etc/issue *OR* lsb-release -a
[00:53] <kostkon> daftykins, actually it's lsb_release -a
[00:53] <iiie> On an ec2 instance, I'm getting forbidden for index and packages supposedly hosted in the same region as the server (and also in ec2).  Any ideas?
[00:53] <Jordan_U> ajoul: You have already been asked not to use all caps, please don't do it again.
[00:53] <daftykins> kostkon: good call, ty
[00:53] <ajoul> Jordan_U you have good memory. And sorry but I forget caps on sometimes
[00:53] <kostkon> daftykins, np
[00:53] <Bashing-1m> quants: Upgrading - kinda off topic- quickly, is a subjective thing. Do you value stability or the latest and greatest higher ? 12.04 has support 'till 2017 !
[00:53] <amdtech> iiie: i'm having trouble in us-west-2 for some packages 403, but fine in us-west-1... wonder if it's related? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6968357/
[00:54] <iiie> amdtech: worth a try, thanks!
[00:54] <Jordan_U> ajoul: Then you need to make sure that you look at your messages before you send them.
[00:54] <iiie> amdtech: exactly what I'm seeing too
[00:55] <ajoul> IS the bash considered the terminal?
[00:55] <aphor> Anyone running saucy on ZFS root?
[00:55] <Bitwise> Anyone have a moment? I'm really struggling to set up a simple mail server. I know asking to ask is bad but I have a lot to explain.
[00:55] <daftykins> ajoul: BASH is just one form of shell available within a terminal emulator
[00:56] <daftykins> Bitwise: if it's your first time find a guide, bear in mind you really need to have your wits about you to run your own mail server
[00:56] <aphor> Bitwise: IMHO there is no such thing as a simple mailserver.
[00:56] <ajoul> daftykins how do I run a .shell script through BASH
[00:56] <aphor> ajoul: how do I get banned?
[00:57] <ajoul> why aphor?
[00:57] <Bitwise> daftykins, I've been following this guide: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ I'm not a total newbie but this is my first time trying to manage a server.
[00:57] <VoidWhisperer> Setting up a working GRE tunnel is probably one of the most annoying things I've done at this point..
[00:57] <guestasdfasdf> hi
[00:57] <aphor> ajoul: cat .shell|bash
[00:58] <quants> Bashing-om, to be honest i really happy with 12.04 LTS.
[00:58] <aphor> ajoul: it's rude to ask questions on IRC without trying to read the docs.
[00:59] <ajoul> I know how to execute a script such as ./something but I am not sure when I type it in terminal if that is Called BASH
[00:59] <aphor> ajoul: man ps
[00:59] <quants> Bashing-om sorry to go off topic.
[00:59] <aphor> ajoul: echo "$SHELL <-- this is the running shell"
[01:00] <aphor> ajoul: on a modern Linux system, unless you know better, the shell is always bash.
[01:01] <rodayo> I'm trying to do some basic lkm development. I'm using 12.04 and when I try to compile my C file, gcc tells me it's missing linux/modversions.h and linux/module.h
[01:01] <Bashing-om> quants: net split got me, had to /exit and re-initiate. But to upgrading, I value stability and Long Term Support ( I also quadruple boot) I have the LTS as my backup !
[01:01] <Jordan_U> !pm | guestasdfasdf
[01:01] <aphor> royado: you're missing a "*-headers" package probably...
[01:02] <quants> Bashing-om as a backup? how so?
[01:03] <Bashing-om> quants: My primary "working" install is the latest release as a minimal install, and only have the packages I actually use installed onto that system.
[01:04] <aphor> I'm going to make a rescue flashdrive, and use zfs snapshot.. then zfs send ..| zfs recieve .. on an external drive or system.
[01:04] <guestasdfasdf>                                                               
[01:04] <guestasdfasdf>  brb
[01:05] <lum> hi
[01:05] <aphor> Bashing-om: with ZFS and a rescue drive, you can switch back and forth between snapshot branches.
[01:05] <Bashing-om> quants: On this box, as my "backup" I have the standard 12.04. also 13.10 ubuntu, and 13.10 Lubuntu.
[01:05] <Greenbean60> Anyone got time to answer just one question from a complete non-techy
[01:05] <quants> Bashing-om I see, im not that clever yet.  all i want to do is work out how to stop google and other online applications and programs tracking everthing i do
[01:05] <aphor> Greenbean60: just ask
[01:06] <aphor> Greebean60: the worst we will do is ask you to go read docs at some URL..
[01:06] <Greenbean60> Setting up server, just need home server for two windows 7 PC's..do I want Samba file server?
[01:06] <quants> Bashing-om im fed up of the net knowing all about me!
[01:06] <Bashing-om> aphor; so true, but I do a lot of testing, and fault isolation, there is no substitute for the "bare metal".
[01:07] <chef> .join
[01:07] <chef> jnek
[01:08] <quants> Bashing-om its getting very 1984
[01:08] <KM0201> Greenbean60: what do you plan to use the homeserver for?
[01:08] <Bashing-om> quants: Do not figure that will happen ! Welcome to our cyber world. In this world there is no way to hide !(your IP MUST be known in order for the thing to work).
[01:08] <Greenbean60> Media streaming, music, movies, etc
[01:09] <KM0201> Greenbean60: have you looked at a NAS solution?
[01:09] <Bitwise> Anyone have a moment? I'm really struggling to set up a simple mail server. I know asking to ask is bad but I have a lot to explain.
[01:09] <aphor> Bashing-om: ZFS is like havng a gaillion partitions without all the waste.
[01:09] <aphor> gazillion
[01:09] <KM0201> Greenbean60: instead of putting ubuntu desktop on a PC, just use a server or NAS OS.
[01:10] <Greenbean60> For a whole day, some sort of conflict booting. Several people had same issue, but no fixes on the board
[01:10] <daftykins> Bitwise: put it in a paste.ubuntu.com then link as you ask
[01:10] <Daekdroom> !maverick
[01:10] <daftykins> Greenbean60: samba will do straight file sharing
[01:10] <KM0201> Greenbean60: what do you mean?
[01:10] <quants> Bashing-om yup, but surely i had hide a little bit? i mean im hot on internet security but it seems evertime o go online the web seems to know evering about me before i do :/
[01:11] <aphor> !raring
[01:11] <Bashing-om> aphor: Believe me I have thought about it, For what and how I do; I like how I have things set up now ( takes only a tic to chroot into another environment).
[01:11] <Greenbean60> boot got hung up, "waiting on xtp file"
[01:12] <KM0201> Greenbean60: what were you trying to boot when you got that error?
[01:12] <quants> Bashing-om its clear i dont know enough about internet security
[01:12] <Greenbean60> freeNAS, believe I tried 9.2.1 and 9.1 both for 32bit
[01:13] <KM0201> http://www.openmediavault.org
[01:13] <Valduare> ahh finally got ubuntu on my macbook pro 7.1
[01:13] <Bashing-om> quants; Ultimately there is no way to hide, Your return address ( your IP ) is always presented, else the internet would not work.
[01:14] <Jordan_U> !tor | Bashing-om quants
[01:16] <funky> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: 8: .: Can't open /etc/X11/Xsession
[01:16] <funky> xinit: connection to X server lost
[01:17] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: tor does give a geat deal of anomity. but even with tor, the IP is unmasked at the initiating and terminal ends.
[01:17] <funky> any idea what is causing it?
[01:17] <quants> Bashing-om Jordan_U ubottu thanks guys. im really just worried that these sites seem to hold too much information on me. i just wish i could clear it all and start again
[01:17] <rannonga> funky permission problem?
[01:18] <funky> what kind of permission problem?
[01:18] <KM0201> Greenbean60: did you check that link?
[01:18] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: But the only way that your ip can be identified by someone who knows the tor exit node's ip is by controlling all of the nodes in between.
[01:20] <funky> anyone else know what could it be?
[01:20] <funky> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: 8: .: Can't open /etc/X11/Xsession
[01:20] <funky> xinit: connection to X server lost
[01:21] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Very well true, but if one has access to the term server, the IP can be cracked.
[01:21] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: "The term server"?
[01:21] <tomreyn> funky: does this file exist?
[01:22] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Sorry, the terminal as final server in the links.
[01:22] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: The tor exit node?
[01:23] <funky> tomreyn I just realised it does not
[01:23] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: yes, as I understnd it.
[01:23] <tomreyn> funky: which ubuntu version?
[01:23] <funky> 13.10
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: The tor exit node does not know the ip of the machine whose packets it's forwarding.
[01:23] <tomreyn> funky: that's a desktop computer?
[01:24] <ajoul> How do I run a script named test.sh from BASH?
[01:24] <funky> its server with desktop installed
[01:24] <wafflejock>  ajoul: ./test.sh
[01:24] <wafflejock> ajoul: it has to be marked executable with chmod a+x test.sh
[01:24] <tomreyn> funky: how did this file vanish, any idea?
[01:24] <tomreyn> funky: because it should be there sif that's a system with X server
[01:25] <ruien> ajoul: "bash test.sh", or "./test.sh" if it has #!/bin/bash
[01:25] <tripleb> I inserted a bluetooth dongle. should is show up in slusb ?
[01:25] <tripleb> lsusb
[01:26] <tomreyn> funky: to restore the file, you can: sudo apt-get --reinstall install x11-common
[01:26] <quants> guys is it possible to clean and clear most of ones internet footprint to reduce the amount of information out there on ones self?
[01:26] <tripleb> I inserted a bluetooth dongle. It does not show up in lsusb ? Should it?
[01:26] <tripleb> quants, nope.
[01:26] <funky> tomreyn done file is not there
[01:27] <wafflejock> tripleb: yes it should
[01:27] <quants> tripleb not posible to start afresh then?
[01:27] <ruien> quants: not really
[01:27] <Valduare> quants: did you go to a naughty site on the family computer?
[01:27] <quants> ruien :(
[01:28] <Dry_Lips> Hi... How do you do sftp mounts with keys in never versions of Nautilus?
[01:28] <wb4bbc> I am helping a friend install Ubuntu he likes Pinguy 12.04, Would it be better to use a base install of Ubuntu and add the things he likes ?
[01:29] <quants> Valduare no i do all that on my computer ;) im just fed up with how much the internet seems to know about me!
[01:29] <tomreyn> funky: can you run this in a shell and post the output please: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -n install; sudo apt-cache policy; sudo apt-get install ---reinstall y x11-common
[01:29] <aphor> quants: that's what live_cd/flash drive images are for.
[01:29] <tomreyn> funky: post it to a pastebin
[01:29] <funky> I am purginx x11-common already, then installing again
[01:29] <quants> aphor ?
[01:30] <tomreyn> funky: i thought you did this already and this was the result? <funky> tomreyn done file is not there
[01:30] <aphor> Dry_Lips: CTRL-L to get teh location bar, and type SFTP URI like "sftp://the.good.net/good/stuff"
[01:30] <rZ1to> Can someone explain why when I set my envior variables they are not getting wirtten?
[01:30] <aphor> quants: live-OS images don't save user state.
[01:31] <aphor> rZlto: the environment has two levels: current context and exported.
[01:31] <quants> aphor ooh, how do i get one of those lol
[01:31] <zacarias> Hi. I have a brand new computer (with nothing installed but Linux) which is supposed to have (and has it) 4 GB of RAM. However, the "hardinfo" tells me that it only has 3388 MB. Why is it so? I knowe that in Wndows there is this type of limitation, but does it exist in Linux also? I would like tu upgrade to 8 GB, but it's useless if it only uses 3388 MB
[01:31] <Dry_Lips> aphor: Yeah, that's thats the way you connect when you're NOT using keys...
[01:31] <wafflejock> quants: aphor: yeah but if you're logged into any service you're basically tracked, also using Google/YouTube/Facebook or anything you need to be logged in what about your smart device(s)
[01:32] <Beldar> zacarias, what linux did you install?
[01:32] <aphor> Dry_Lips: if you want to use keys, then ssh-add something beforehand.
[01:32] <Dry_Lips> aphor: I've done that
[01:32] <quants> the internet is really hard :/
[01:33] <aphor> Dry_Lips: your gnome-session isn't running under a ssh-agent.
[01:33] <aphor> wafflejock: I don't know, but I suspect there's a live-image somewhere with TOR.
[01:34] <Dry_Lips> aphor: hmm... so, what do I do then?
[01:34] <wafflejock> you gotta go RMS (stallman) and not have credit cards or a smart phone and use cash for everything, use YaCy and pay for or setup your own e-mail, use SSL and SSH everywhere and even so I believe the NSA can peek
[01:34] <aphor> Dry_Lips: exit to a command prompt, kill your lightdm, and then 'ssh-agent startx'
[01:35] <Dry_Lips> aphor: ok, I'll give it a try
[01:35] <aphor> Dry_Lips: if that works, delete all your .gnome-session or whatever files that might be screwing up your lightdm invoked session.
[01:37] <aphor> Dry_Lips: when your ssh-agent can put its environment in the environment of all your X clients, they can do ssh-agent passwordless ssh if they do ssh.
[01:37] <kongthap> when double click on .md file, i would like ubuntu to open ReText instead of gedit, please advice what to do
[01:38] <alexjusti> Does Ubuntu Server support ARMv6?
[01:38] <Dry_Lips> aphor: what I normally do is to put the ssh-add in my startup
[01:38] <Beldar> kongthap, right click .md file properties-open with
[01:38] <quants> wafflejock aphor Valduare ruien tripleb ubottu Jordan_U Bashing-om thank you guys for the help and advice, i am off for the night as i'm supposed to work tomorrow and have have not had any sleep :)
[01:38] <kongthap> Beldar, where most ubuntu app are installed?
[01:39] <Beldar> kongthap, In the OS be specific and give a context.
[01:39] <kongthap> Beldar, is it some kind of edit the config file instead of right click?, asking just in case
[01:40] <Beldar> depends of what DE you are using I would suspect
[01:40] <quants> Bashing-om thank you especially :)
[01:40] <kongthap> Beldar, i'm using 13.04 unity
[01:41] <ajoul> HOW to see if 64 or 32 bit version is installeD?
[01:41] <ajoul> asap
[01:41] <ajoul> fast
[01:41] <ajoul> help
[01:41] <Beldar> kongthap, I'm not sure of the question nor sure of it's validity overall to be honest.
[01:41] <funky> tomreyn I reinstalled x11 and Xfce
[01:41] <Beldar> !enter | ajoul
[01:41] <tomreyn> kongthap: your ubuntu verison is unsupported, you need to upgrade
[01:42] <funky> during Xfce install it gives error
[01:42] <funky> cant connect to d bus something
[01:42] <ajoul> How to see if 64 or 32 bit version of UBUNTU!!!!! is installed?
[01:42] <kongthap> tomreyn, yeah but i'm really waiting for 14.04 because 13.10 causes me problem with localization
[01:43] <tomreyn> funky: interesting. did you ask a question?
[01:43] <pibby> ajoul: file /sbin/init
[01:43] <tomreyn> kongthap: did you file a bug on that?
[01:47] <kongthap> tomreyn, actually it's not a but it's kind of the key to switch between my language and english, because windows leads using ` key to swtich language input for more than 10 years so it's kind of convenient, i cannot get this done with 13.10
[01:47] <kongthap> *bug
[01:47] <eppa> hey, is the us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com apt mirror having issues atm
[01:47] <Cueball> Upgrading a machine from Maverick to Precise. Am I going to have probs with this?
[01:48] <eppa> getting 403 Forbidden on all attempts to install some pkg deps during CloudFormation UserData bootstrap :/
[01:49] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Did not mena to be rude, and run off - crucial to attend sick dog - , anyway, I respect your position on tor and your knowledge in general.
[01:49] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: *mean
[01:49] <hewhomust> poor dog
[01:50] <tomreyn> kongthap: i bet you can configure those hotkeys, but then i'm not into it and can't help with it. on the other hand it seems very unlikely that - if this changed in 13.10 over 13.04 -  it will be any different in 14.04 than it was in 13.10.
[01:50] <Bashing-om> poor dog, coming out both ends. Needs TLC.
[01:50] <Beldar> Cueball, WE can't say for sure, back it up and use a eol upgrade, you would be better with a fresh install time wise.
[01:50] <tomreyn> kongthap: unless it was a regression, but this sounds more like a change of default settings.
[01:51] <aphor> eppa: either you have an evil proxy, or broken apt repo server.
[01:51] <tomreyn> kongthap:and you, too, *really* should not use an unsupported operating system for months. especially not on a server
[01:52] <Cueball> Beldar: TBH I don't care if it fails. I will do a fresh install if it does fail. Just doing it for fun. It's an old server that I've not used in a while. Not much on there.
[01:52] <eppa> aphor: apt-get update is working ok, it’s just fetching packages themselves that fails…think the apt server is broken but not sure where to check that or who to talk to
[01:52] <eppa> aphor: any idea who at ubuntu manages the AWS apt repos?
[01:53] <kongthap> tomreyn, i will try to upgrade asap :)
[01:54] <Beldar> eppa, There is a bug exactly on this repo
[01:54] <eppa> Beldar: oh, I see, where can I check for things like that?
[01:54] <Beldar> google this us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:55] <aphor> amazon...
[01:55] <eppa> Beldar: oh I saw that but it’s from two years ago :)  this was working OK about 12 hours ago last time I brough up my cluster
[01:55] <Beldar> eppa, That is how I saw it, not sure on looking up specific bugs, and it is last year.
[01:56] <eppa> Beldar: yeah, I meant more a status page or similar
[01:56] <eppa> I guess I just have to wait…or alter provisioning scripts to use a different mirror for now ;/
[01:59] <aphor> eppa: or use dnsmasq and hack your DNS lookups...
[02:00] <aphor> dnsmasq can override DNS A records on a domain-by-domain basis.
[02:00] <aphor> eppa: but that'll break SSL.
[02:00] <eppa> aphor: yeah, I think I’ll just add a `sed` call to the script :)
[02:01] <funky> Loading extension GLX xinit: connection to X server lost
[02:01] <funky> nearly there
[02:08] <xangua> How to get double tap on the led to disable touchpad on an HP g42¿ Ubuntu Precise all updates incluiding the enablement stack, thanks
[02:13] <funky> who here used X server?
[02:15] <timmytimo> hey all
[02:15] <timmytimo> having trouble with sound
[02:16] <timmytimo> in windows these speakers are plenty loud, in ubuntu I can barely hear.  I went to sound settings and its up all the way as is on the speakers.  They plug into headphone jack
[02:17] <tomreyn> timmytimo: often sound chips have an amplifier, that would be presented as either an option you can switch on and off, or as an additional drawbar
[02:19] <timmytimo> tomreyn: you mean within the normal sound settings or somewhere else.  It just says analog sound, built-in audio
[02:21] <tomreyn> timmytimo: i think this would be on the normal sound settings somewhere. but then i can't spot it here, either. sorry to not be of much help.
[02:23] <arooni-mobile> how can i use opendns dns resolution permanently; not just for the current network i'm connected to
[02:24] <joshu__> Never used chroot and would like to check my understanding of it. Does it have two purposes: 1) to create an isolated place to test or secure access 2) to change settings on files/ directories
[02:24] <timmytimo> lol no worries, I've been staring at it for a while now.  just so weird that it would be 1/2 or 1/3 as loud as windows with same hardware setup
[02:24] <tomreyn> !sound | timmytimo Maybe this helps:
[02:25] <usr13> joshu__: It's just so that you can boot into a system that you can't do in a normal way.
[02:25] <xangua> arooni-mobile: gksu gedit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[02:25] <xangua> Then change the line highlighted to:
[02:25] <xangua> prepend domain-name-servers x.x.x.x, y.y.y.y;
[02:25] <funky> nr 1
[02:26] <joshu__> I'm currently stuck in a situation where I have a mount point which contains files. I need to change the group and set mode 0775 on a few of them BUT the group I need to set is not present on the computer. Is chroot the tool for this?
[02:26] <xangua> prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4;  for example for google dns
[02:26] <tomreyn> joshu__: chroot does not provide proper isolation in terms of security. don't use it for this purpose, use virtualization or, once there is one which provides proper isolation on current kernel versions, a container solution.
[02:26] <drewery> if I decide to install ubuntu as server ...my options are 13.04 , 12.04, 12.10  and 10.04 ...is there any strong preference for which should be favored? I am new to this so this will be a little learning curve as far as ubuntu goes
[02:26] <usr13> joshu__: It is to be able to work on a broken system, (one that you can no longer boot to).
[02:26] <arooni-mobile> xangua, will any dns settings made on network manager app override those dns servers?
[02:27] <xangua> arooni-mobile: no unless you edit the file again and delete it/change it/comment the line
[02:27] <tongcx_> hi guys, if there are multiple memory eaters like JVM running, how does memory get allocated if they all just want to hold memory without actually using it?
[02:27] <usr13> joshu__: To change the permissions on a mount point?  As long as it is not the user's /home/, I'm not sure why you'd need to chroot from a boot disk for that...
[02:27] <aphor> tongcx_: the kernel will evict pages of idle RAM to swap in a process called "paging out"
[02:28] <arooni-mobile> xangua, google dns is there (in resolv.conf); but i dont give that address in dhclient.conf; how else could it have arrived (trying to swtich to opendns)
[02:28] <usr13> joshu__: How did it get changed in the first place?
[02:28] <xangua> arooni-mobile: someone edited it¿
[02:28] <tongcx_> aphor: does those RAM eater try to coordinates with each other?
[02:28] <tongcx_> aphor: it seems like a terrible result
[02:28] <arooni-mobile> xangua, im the only user on this
[02:28] <joshu__> usr13 it's not home. I'm working with mounts that point to a boot volume of another system. I don't have the group that I need to set on that disk, so I started googling and saw chroot and that's why I'm trying to understand if it's the tool to do this.
[02:29] <aphor> tongcx_: when the RAM eater wants to use that page of memory, it gets a page-fault and will freeze until the kernel can evict another page to make room for paging it back in.
[02:29] <tongcx_> aphor: yea, but by not trying to eat all memory, those processes can do much better
[02:29] <xangua> arooni-mobile: ooh resolv.conf you say¿ even if you modify it, it will not save changes I believe
[02:29] <tomreyn> drewery: how did you come up with these options?
[02:30] <aphor> tongcx_: http://www.amazon.com/Implementation-Operating-paperback-Addison-Wesley-Systems/dp/0132317923
[02:30] <arooni-mobile> xangua, do i have to restart to take effect?
[02:30] <usr13> joshu__: No, it's not.
[02:30] <xangua> arooni-mobile: just conect and reconect to your network
[02:30] <aphor> tongcx_: it's a probability function.
[02:30] <xangua> disconect and reconect*
[02:30] <drewery> tomreyn: I am testing a hosting... these are the options that I can start with besides centos and debian
[02:31] <usr13> joshu__: Normally, what you want is 755 for directories and 644 for files
[02:31] <tomreyn> drewery: what are you planning to test then?
[02:31] <arooni-mobile> xangua, for some reason open dns says im still not using it; even though its nameservers are the ony ones listed on the resolf.conf file
[02:31] <usr13> joshu__: But it sounds like you are confusing two different things, ownership and permissions, (they *are* different).
[02:31] <genial> Hello! Can I tell rsync to not create the entire directory-tree before it starts to transfer files, and rather create directories along with the files?
[02:32] <joshu__> usr13 ok I think I understand what you're saying.
[02:32] <arooni-mobile> xangua, acutally somehow the google dns snuck up and reset itself
[02:32] <arooni-mobile> xangua, i have no idea how its overwriting the resolv.conf file repeatedly
[02:32] <tomreyn> drewery: are you planning to keep this server running for longer, or is it really just a test installation you'll scrap in some  weeks?
[02:32] <xangua> arooni-mobile: dhclient.conf not resolv.conf
[02:32] <joshu__> usr13 Is there a way to use chgrp to set the group on a directory/ files that doesn't exist on the current system?
[02:33] <drewery> tomreyn: I am planning to run it longer and get a new project established as a website on this while I am learning about ubuntu in the meanwhile
[02:33] <tomreyn> drewery: and how attractive sounds the need to do a system upgrade soon?
[02:33] <usr13> joshu__: Can you rephrase that?
[02:33] <drewery> if it was a nightly thing I would just install it on my VM but this will be a administered public web server
[02:34] <usr13> joshu__: Well, obviously, you can change the ownership of a directory, (both owner and group).
[02:34] <drewery> now I am more familiar with centos or freebsd
[02:34] <funky> tomreyn when I run echo xfce4-session>~/.xsession which password i use when I rdp? the root one?
[02:34] <funky> I decided to reinstall xrpd and xfce
[02:34] <drewery> so I am not sure about how things work with ubuntu, also trying to figure out if I get stuck are there people out there supportive besides the documentation or manual pages
[02:35] <joshu__> usr13 I'm on ubuntu with 2 disks attached. My primary disk and a second disk that contains a boot volume and is mounted. The second disk I'm manipulating the files. I want to change the group of some of them BUT the group I want to set doesn't exist on my Ubuntu primary disk, so I get the error " chgrp failed: failed to look up group second_disk_group"
[02:35] <usr13> joshu__: But the ownership of individual files will depend on *who* writes the files to a filesystem
[02:36] <tomreyn> drewery: so i'd say for a productive server you normally want somewhat recent software (since that will often give you new and better features), but you usually also don't want to have to upgrade to the next release every 6 months. so you'd go with the latest available long term support (LTS) release.
[02:36] <tomreyn> that'd be 12.04
[02:36] <usr13> joshu__: Yea, that group will have to exist before you can give any files or directories to it.
[02:36] <arooni-mobile> xangua, network manager is rewreiting the resolv.conf file when i reconnecte
[02:36] <arooni-mobile> or something is
[02:36] <arooni-mobile> driving me crazy
[02:36] <joshu__> usr13 ah I thought there was a workaround
[02:36] <xangua> arooni-mobile: dhclient.conf not resolv.conf
[02:36] <usr13> joshu__: Let me ask you this:  What filesystem is on this disk?  (Is it ext4 or ntfs or......???)
[02:36] <joshu__> usr13 ext4
[02:37] <usr13> joshu__: Ok... good
[02:37] <xangua> arooni-mobile: you have to edit dhclient.conf , do not edit resolv.conf
[02:37] <arooni-mobile> xangua, i am making the changes as you mentioned to dhclient.conf it doesnt matter; the resolv.conf is getting overwritten somehow with google dns
[02:37] <joshu__> usr13 that's what I thought chroot was for..."change root"
[02:37] <joshu__> but I misunderstood
[02:37] <arooni-mobile> xangua, im aware; there is no 8.8.8.8 in all of dhclient.conf
[02:37] <tomreyn> funky: i'm not into xrdp, sorry
[02:37] <usr13> joshu__: but no, there is no workaround, you will have that group in the /etc/group file in order for the sytem to change any ownerships to it.
[02:38] <drewery> tomreyn: exactly, those were my concerns and that was straight to the point. Thanks friend.
[02:38] <arooni-mobile> xangua, any ideas?
[02:38] <joshu__> usr13 ok thanks for explaining!
[02:38] <tomreyn> drewery: there's also #ubuntu-server btw.
[02:39] <usr13> joshu__: chroot will put you into the system as it is set up, according to the users and groups that are desingnated in the /etc/group file.
[02:39] <tomreyn> drewery: fewer people, but sometimes better luck with server specific questions
[02:40] <usr13> joshu__: chroot is usually only used on a system that will no longer boot, (I know of no other reason to use it).
[02:41] <tomreyn> usr13: compiling software is a common use
[02:41] <pvp101sing> tomreyn: you got that right what are you compiling
[02:41] <xangua> arooni-mobile: did you check network mannager icon settins¿
[02:41] <xangua> setings
[02:42] <arooni-mobile> xangua, for the particular network im connected to?
[02:42] <xangua> arooni-mobile: yes
[02:42] <usr13> tomreyn: Yea, ok.  Thanks... You are correct.
[02:42] <funky> http://www.techzim.co.zw/2013/12/solving-ubuntu-13-10s-remote-desktop-windows-bug/ I done it
[02:42] <tomreyn> joshu__: you can actually change the group ID (a number) of file system objects (files, directories etc) to matcch that of what you have on your other file system
[02:42] <funky> yet to connect :D
[02:42] <arooni-mobile> xangua, dhcp (automatic)
[02:42] <funky> what is X server for?
[02:42] <pvp101sing> Does anyone play xbox around here
[02:42] <tomreyn> pvp101sing: MegaGlest for example, an open source real-time strategy game which is available in ubuntu.
[02:43] <funky> when xrdp is seems to be used to be used for rdp
[02:43] <usr13> joshu__: You can also add another group....
[02:43] <Beldar> pvp101sing, No polling and that is a 3rd party, if you have issues state them.
[02:43] <joshu__> tomreyn can you explain how to do that
[02:43] <usr13> joshu__: And then add users to the new group, (and/or add new users as well).
[02:43] <pvp101sing> sorry beldar
[02:43] <aphor> funky: X is graphics and user input devices for your programs.
[02:44] <drewery> tomreyn: thanks, I will add that to the list as well
[02:44] <zack123> im in
[02:44] <tomreyn> joshu__: can you sum up again for me what you are trying to achieve, i only followed it loosely
[02:44] <aphor> funky: X was desinged to work across networks from the get-go, when there were 4 Beatles.
[02:44] <Beldar> pvp101sing, It's alright, it is not easy to know what to say if you are not familiar with the channel.;)
[02:44] <tomreyn> welcom drewery
[02:44] <aphor> funky: RDP was a belated fit of jealousy from Microsoft.
[02:45] <joshu__> tomreyn this is what I said to usr13: I'm on ubuntu with 2 disks attached. My primary disk and a second disk that contains a boot volume and is mounted. The second disk I'm manipulating the files. I want to change the group of some of them BUT the group I want to set doesn't exist on my Ubuntu primary disk, so I get the error " chgrp failed: failed to look up group second_disk_group"
[02:45] <drewery> tomreyn: just for the record : that's fewer enough people for me in that channel :) I like what Few means for ubuntu I guess
[02:45] <funky> aphor lol
[02:45] <zack123> so how can i install kali linux without vbox
[02:45] <zack123> ????
[02:45] <pvp101sing> Beldar: Am running ubuntu on my computer so am familar with the operating system
[02:45] <Beldar> zack123, Not supported here
[02:46] <funky> aphor so I install xorg rdp and desktop and I am good to go as far as rdp connecting to server goes?
[02:46] <tomreyn> :) drewery
[02:46] <aphor> funky: I was slightly exaggerating about the 4 Beatles thing.
[02:46] <zack123> where is supported
[02:46] <Beldar> zack123, On a channel of theirs
[02:46] <zack123> #kali-linux
[02:46] <funky> i get loading extension GLX no protocal speficied
[02:46] <aphor> funky: I never tried xorg rdp. I'm an old curmudgeon.
[02:46] <zack123> ??
[02:46] <tomreyn> joshu__: alright, do you have that file system on the second disk mounted already?
[02:47] <funky> I guess I have to add some lines to .xsession to tell it which desktop to load, etc?
[02:47] <tomreyn> joshu__: and do you have some files which have the 'proper' group ownership there already?
[02:47] <aphor> Xrdp uses Xvnc or X11rdp to manage the X session. To learn about how xrdp currently works, click here and here.
[02:48] <xerxes> ws wondering if anyone can help  with a problem  on a fresh ubuntu 13.10 install on an older machine
[02:48] <aphor> http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/documents/xrdpdesign/index.html
[02:48] <tomreyn> joshu__: i.e. the group you want to change things to
[02:48] <aphor> http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/documents/asession/index.html
[02:48] <Beldar> xerxes, Not without a description to the channel.
[02:48] <tomreyn> !ask | xerxes
[02:49] <joshu__> tomreyn mounted yes. let me double check not he group
[02:50] <pvp101sing> Does anyone know if I can code in c sharo in ubuntu am trying to run visual studio in wine but I have not tryed it yet but it probley not a good idea
[02:50] <joshu__> tomreyn yep group is in the /etc/group file
[02:50] <joshu__> tomreyn on the second disk
[02:50] <rimbaud> howdy
[02:50] <rimbaud> anyone around?
[02:50] <pvp101sing> rimbaud: am around:)
[02:51] <rimbaud> wotcher : ) I'm having an issue, ubuntu gives me that: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:51] <tomreyn> joshu__: what i really meant is whether the boot volume contains files which yuou know do have the right owning group assigned to them
[02:52] <rimbaud> when I tried to install anything
[02:53] <rimbaud> I just read any tutorial around the web and following its suggests but I didn't resolve the problem
[02:53] <fling> Is not this site working? > http://injapan.ru/
[02:54] <tomreyn> joshu__: so these groups and usernames which display on "ls -l" and in graphical directory browsers are really friendly names, they are like the result of a reverse lookup on a phone book, because humans can usually better work with names than with numbers of the same complexity.
[02:54] <texla> fling working here
[02:54] <funky> hmmm  x server stu ck again
[02:54] <funky> seems GLX extention is cause of all issues
[02:55] <joshu__> tomreyn I solved it. chroot did work
[02:55] <funky> what its for anyway?
[02:55] <tomreyn> joshu__: but really, on the file system, all files and directories have numeric IDs only, and /etc/groups is used to translate them to those group names
[02:55] <tomreyn> joshu__: i guess i can save my explanations then. ;)
[02:55] <joshu__> usr13 tomreyn sudo chroot /mnt/second_disk then chgrp second_disk_group files_on_second_disk
[02:56] <joshu__> tomreyn Well thank you for the ones you gave!
[02:56] <tomreyn> yes that might work
[02:56] <tomreyn> depending on how this system is configured
[02:57] <tomreyn> welcome
[02:57] <Sir_Andrei> Hola
[02:57] <Sir_Andrei> Hello
[02:58] <funky> could it be that server box dont have  video card?
[02:58] <rodayo> I'm doing some basic module development, I get the following error in my include tree: fatal error: asm/types.h: No such file or directory. I have the header file in my system under "/usr/include/asm-generic/" anyone know what to do?
[02:58] <funky>  I run lspci
[02:58] <funky> nothing for video
[02:59] <usr13> joshu__: tomreyn   It would only work if the group exists on the other system.  Right?
[02:59] <usr13> joshu__: tomreyn  .... otherwise, you'd have to create a new group. Right?
[03:00] <joshu__> usr13 but it does exist on the other system (second disk).
[03:00] <tomreyn> usr13: what is "it"?
[03:00] <usr13> joshu__: Ok.  You're good to go then.
[03:01] <usr13> tomreyn: it=chgrp (only to group that exists on the system)
[03:02] <usr13> (on the "second_disk"
[03:03] <tomreyn> usr13: try this: sudo touch /tmp/test; ls -ln /tmp/test; sudo chgrp 1 /tmp/test; ls -ln /tmp/test; sudo rm /tmp/test
[03:03] <jamesd> win 1
[03:04] <tomreyn> usr13: what you're doing there is to create a file owned by root:root (user ID 0, group ID 0), then you change the group ID to 1, then you delete it.
[03:05] <usr13> -rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 0 Feb 20 21:04 /tmp/test
[03:06] <usr13> tomreyn: Ok, I get it... (obviously root exists on both filesystems so... that should do fine...)
[03:06] <tomreyn> usr13: if you had a group whose group id is 1 (as usually defined in /etc/group - the "phonenook" in my earlier reverse lookup story) , then "ls -l test" whould have shown the name of the group instead of "root" after you changed the group id (and before deleting it with 'rm')
[03:07] <Gooba> hi
[03:07] <Gooba> WELL MET
[03:07] <tomreyn> usr13: what i tried to point out is that you can change ownership to groups (and users) which do not exist on your current system.
[03:08] <adam007> why i cant use mail() using ubuntu server ?
[03:08] <adam007> i already install sendmail package
[03:08] <funky> folks where do I find Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA G200eW WPCM450  drivers for ubuntu?
[03:08] <funky> to install via cli
[03:09] <usr13> tomreyn: Well, I'm still a bit fuzzy on it... but if you say so ;)
[03:09] <usr13> -rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 0 Feb 20 21:04 /tmp/test  is the same as -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb 20 21:07 /tmp/test
[03:10] <usr13> ?
[03:11] <adam007> how to setup mailserver in ubuntu ?
[03:11] <seranofree> http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-courier-mysql-and-squirrelmail-ubuntu-12.04-lts
[03:12] <tomreyn> usr13: yes. just one is numeric and the other is not
[03:12] <usr13> tomreyn: (root is also a group)  ( root is a user but root is also a group)
[03:12] <tomreyn> usr13: but that's just because user / group id 0 is always assigned to root, well not always, but it's a convention.
[03:12] <funky> tomreyn ix startx gets stuck it likely wants video driver?
[03:13] <tomreyn> usr13: right, just like your system user also exists as a group, normally
[03:13] <funky> I cat error log yet to see
[03:13] <tomreyn> funky: right, it's hard to tell without any output
[03:14] <funky> one moment I pastebin log
[03:14] <tomreyn> funky: you have syslog and Xorg.*.log, both in /var/log
[03:14] <funky> yes
[03:14] <tomreyn> plus whatever you are doing on your temrinal
[03:15] <usr13> tomreyn: Not on mine, my user is a member of users (as well as other groups) but there is no group of the same name
[03:16] <usr13> Well, I take that back...
[03:17] <funky> http://pastebin.com/Vpjt0UjC
[03:17] <funky> it gets stuck on GLX
[03:17] <funky> seems like video card
[03:18] <usr13> tomreyn: There is a difference here.  On my Ubuntu system, yes, I have group of same name as user, (but the system I'm on now is not Ubuntu, so it *is* different).  ... Interesing...
[03:19] <jamesd> usr13: filesystems and groups use numeric values not the text.
[03:19] <usr13> tomreyn: This is something I've not really noticed before.
[03:20] <tomreyn> usr13: yes there are other systems which do not create (and assign your user to) a primary user group of the same name as your user.
[03:21] <funky> tomreyn after i checked errors log it seems kinda fine hmm
[03:21] <funky> but GLX is stuck loading and loading
[03:24] <usr13> tomreyn: Yea, I'm seeing that now...    1000 1000  vs 1000 100  =  (joe:joe vs joe:users)
[03:25] <usr13> jamesd: tomreyn Thanks guys.... I learned something new  :)
[03:26] <tomreyn> :)
[03:26] <tomreyn> pass it on to someone else the other day
[03:27] <usr13> I will, (I have a better handle on groups and users now)
[03:27] <tomreyn> funky: what are you trying to accomplish there anyways? your server may not even support video acceleration
[03:28] <funky> tomreyn simply enable rdp access to desktop
[03:28] <funky> it got video card so should rdp
[03:31] <funky> tomreyn what do u mean byt not supporting video acceleration
[03:32] <tomreyn> funky: my understanding is / was that you are running the X server on a remote server which is not equipped with standard desktop computer hardware.
[03:32] <funky> have anyone here used rpd and x server?
[03:32] <tomreyn> maybe i mixed you up with someone else.
[03:32] <funky> tomreyn its dell server
[03:32] <tomreyn> funky: why do you want to use RDP rather than VNC anyways?
[03:32] <funky> it got video card so what else it needs
[03:32] <funky> RPD is handier
[03:33] <funky> VNC I heard its not secure
[03:33] <funky> etc
[03:33] <funky> but ok I can try VNC too
[03:33] <tomreyn> that's why VNC is typically wrapped in an ssh connection
[03:33] <tomreyn> you also save one open port that way
[03:34] <funky> well it VNC or RDP
[03:34] <funky> xstart still stuck
[03:34] <funky> no error message
[03:35] <funky> i wonder what it wants
[03:36] <funky> tomreyn I an pretty sure it supports desktop as they offer win install on it
[03:36] <funky> :)
[03:36] <thechris> Does anyone know what is required to get WQHD (2560x1440) resolutions to work with an nvidia GPU?
[03:36] <funky> is there some room for x server?
[03:37] <thechris> Currently, nvidia-settings and the desktop environment settings panel both list 1920x1080 as the highest resolution allowed.
[03:37] <ChogyDan> thechris: the nvidia config tool doesnt work?
[03:37] <ChogyDan> nm
[03:37] <thechris> ChogyDan: no, it just lists 1920x1080 as the max.
[03:37] <ChogyDan> thechris: have you tried the xorg-updates or -edgers ppa?
[03:38] <thechris> ChogyDan: no, I haven't updated this in a while.
[03:39] <thechris> ChogyDan: was WQHD support only recently added?
[03:39] <funky> Chody have u used xorg?
[03:39] <ChogyDan> thechris: dunno, but I was just guessing you had a more modern gpu
[03:40] <thechris> ChogyDan: the GPU should be ok.  It was the "GTX560Ti Christmas edition", which used the GTX570's chip, but with fewer cores.
[03:41] <thechris> nvidia has it listed for 2560x1600 max.
[03:42] <ChogyDan> thechris: the point is that sometimes things are fixed in updates, but if you haven't even installed regular updates...
[03:42] <blackice1016> hello.
[03:42] <thechris> ChogyDan: yeah, i was just hoping there was some simple setting to try before going through all of that.
[03:51] <hanasaki> how do you setup bluetooth?  dmesg says the bluetooth hardware was found on boot...
[03:57] <Beldar> hanasaki, probably a wiki here that is relevant. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=bluetooth&titlesearch=Titles
[03:57] <nearst> how safe my precise doin dist-upgrade ? :))
[03:58] <Beldar> nearst, dist-upgrade is a in release upgrade for kernels and a few others
[03:59] <hanasaki> Beldar:  didn't find anything that worked
[03:59] <Beldar> nearst, The precise is desktop EOL though
[03:59] <attrapereves> hitsujiTMO, you might remember me from earlier. Any thoughts on the permissions error?
[04:00] <hitsujiTMO> attrapereves: firefox?
[04:00] <nearst> Beldar, owh. just got a conflict package there.
[04:00] <Beldar> nearst, Er my bad I was thinking lucid precise is fine
[04:00] <Beldar> nearst, Pastebin errors for the channel
[04:00] <nearst> Beldar, i still got my karmic running :))
[04:00] <attrapereves> hitsujiTMO, Yes, and chrome
[04:01] <nearst> Beldar, i think. this conflict not a major. only some side package
[04:01] <hitsujiTMO> attrapereves: sorry. didn't come up with any other ideas.
[04:02] <attrapereves> hitsujiTMO, I'm guessing a fresh install should work, no?
[04:02] <hitsujiTMO> attrapereves: yes it should
[04:02] <attrapereves> hitsujiTMO, OK, I'll try that and report back if it does not
[04:05] <Mohammed> anyone here?
[04:18] <ScyllaBus> When I launch linux mint from my laptop the screen goes black. Was able to launch with nomodeset but it eats up my CPU and uses software rendering. My laptop has Intel HD Graphics 4000. Not sure what to do...
[04:19] <ScyllaBus> No one on #linuxmint was responding so I tried the next best thing.
[04:19] <Beldar> ScyllaBus, Not supported is all
[04:19] <ScyllaBus> Intel HD 4000?
[04:19] <Beldar> mint
[04:20] <ScyllaBus> What about debian? I had the same problem.
[04:20] <Beldar> this is ubuntu support, not derivatives or debian ScyllaBus
[04:21] <ScyllaBus> So is ubuntu supported for Intel HD 4000? I did some googling and people seem to have the same problem..
[04:21] <ruien> Beldar: this problem doesn't really sound to me like something related to mint. ScyllaBus: which graphics driver is your system using for that card? Have you been able to determine that?
[04:22] <ScyllaBus> Actually I looked and there werent any drivers listed.
[04:22] <ScyllaBus> When I went to drivers mgr.
[04:22] <Beldar> ruien, Does not matter it is not a ubuntu OS, help them in a pm if you want.
[04:22] <jcabb> ScyllaBus, post on their forums.
[04:22] <ScyllaBus> Im also asking about ubuntu.
[04:23] <ScyllaBus> So is ubuntu supported for Intel HD 4000? I did some googling and people seem to have the same problem..
[04:24] <chair> what is the best way to copy all my files off this computer to a new one?
[04:24] <oinkers> usb
[04:25] <chair> it's a large hard drive, is there a network way?
[04:25] <tomreyn> ScyllaBus: this lists certified hardware: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[04:25] <oinkers> could network them
[04:25] <chair> they're on the same lan
[04:25] <Gnea> chair: do you want to preserve permissions?
[04:25] <chair> permissions aren't important, but the files are.
[04:25] <tomreyn> ScyllaBus: other setups often work, too (but there are no guarantees)
[04:25] <ruien> ScyllaBus: I ran into something similar before. Which kernel are you using?
[04:25] <Gnea> chair: scp, rsync, ftp, samba...
[04:26] <chair> of scp and rsync which one tolerates failure best?
[04:26] <Dirkson> Hey all. Using lubuntu - Whenever I leave the network connection unused for more than a few seconds, it seems to lose its ipv4 address. Anyone heard of an issue like that?
[04:26] <chair> (resumes after an interrupt and all)
[04:27] <ruien> chair: i would strongly suggest rsync
[04:27] <jcabb> chair, rsync
[04:27] <chair> rsync it is.
[04:27] <picksit>  join #ubuntustudio
[04:27] <Gnea> well rsync can use scp to copy files. scp is generally fairly robust but rsync will back it up.
[04:27]  * jcabb is moving 2Tb with rsync right now.
[04:27] <jcabb> chair,  if you need syntax help let me know
[04:27] <chair> jcabb sweet, can you paste me a syntax?
[04:27] <jcabb> I'll PM, stand by.
[04:29] <adam007> i want setup sendmail for sending mail using php mail() function any suggestion ?
[04:29] <adam007> last time i try i get error message refused connection 127.0.0.1
[04:31] <ruien> adam007: what's your actual mail sending software? sendmail sort of "hands off" mail, it's not a full mail server by itself.
[04:31] <adam007> i use sendmail
[04:32] <kimprince> tried everything to get my graphics working, now really stuck, http://askubuntu.com/questions/423889/
[04:33] <ruien> adam007: for example, where I work we use msmtp (http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/) which is a sendmail-compatible interface to a real SMTP server
[04:33] <adam007> but i cant use graphic because im on ssh
[04:34] <Serano>  adam007 sendmail will give over the email that needs to be sent to the local mail daemon who will send it accordingly.
[04:35] <Serano> Therefore you need to install mailsoftware, SMTP proto, so the mailhandler can connect on 127.0.0.1:25
[04:35] <Serano> and send the mail
[04:35] <tapout> what email program supports qmail style email files?
[04:36] <adam007> Serano why when i use hosting it works but not in ubuntu server ?
[04:37] <Serano> because hosting providers have their mailservers installed or configured on the webserving software.
[04:37] <Serano> there is a link from the webserver to the mailserver.
[04:37] <Serano> php tells the webserver that it is a php script, the function mail tells the computersystem to use the mailserver to send the mail
[04:38] <Serano> so it is not the webserver or php that sends the mail
[04:38] <Serano> it sends it to a mailserver
[04:38] <Serano> If you read up I gave you a link an hour ago, how to setup a full mailsystem
[04:38] <adam007> so it mean, when i want send email through ubuntu server, i must prepare smtp mail software ?
[04:39] <ruien> kimprince: I read your question -- did you mention anywhere which nvidia divers you're using?
[04:39] <adam007> i cant see it can you give it again ?
[04:39]  * jcabb murmurs RTFM...
[04:39] <Karu> Hi folks~ I'm having a really strange NFS issue on 13.10. Server has exported a filesystem to a client on my network, all mount requests to the client are denied. Server syslog says "Refused mount request.... (/): not exported"
[04:39] <Serano> from php yes. You could also use a relay mailserver.
[04:39] <kimprince> now ruien, how do I work that out?  I just actually did the purge again, so probably not got anything now
[04:40] <yeyeman> whats the name for the thing where all windows in the current workspace pops up tiled, and clicking on one brings it to focus?
[04:40] <Serano> you either install a mailservice and it will work.
[04:40] <yeyeman> it happens when I press super+x
[04:40] <adam007> Serano can you give me the link again ? abou tutorial setting up it all
[04:40] <Serano> I believe that you could also tell the webserver/php not to use the local maildaemon but use an external one. I have no experience on that so you might need to google or ask someone else for that
[04:41] <Karu> showmounts on the client can see the export, and rpcinfo looks good as well.
[04:41] <ruien> kimprince: well, in general, you can see your installed packages with "dpkg -l", so you can do "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" -- when I do this, I get "nvidia-319-updates", which is the package I'm using. I'm on xubuntu 13.10 though (which is a very fine release)
[04:41] <Serano> http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-courier-mysql-and-squirrelmail-ubuntu-12.04-lts
[04:41] <Serano> adam007
[04:41] <adam007> okay thanks
[04:41] <ruien> kimprince: since you did "apt-get purge", you won't have anything installed. But you should still have the deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives, so you can see what you had installed
[04:42] <tomreyn> adam007: also /var/log/apt/history.log shows the recent package change requests
[04:43] <tomreyn> umm sorry this was for kimprince
[04:43] <kimprince> ruien, you're right, there is nothing when I dpkg.  Not sure there's much point in looking in the archives, since I have tried all sort of install/uninstall today.  I would even be happy with my onboard gpu card...
[04:44] <ChogyDan> kimprince: have you posted /var/X11/Xorg.0.log anywhere?
[04:44] <kimprince> No chogyDan.  Where would be a good place to do that?
[04:44] <tomreyn> also post this: lspci -knnv | grep -A10 VGA
[04:45] <tomreyn> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:45] <ruien> kimprince: this is kind of off-topic, but have you considered trying a Live USB of ubuntu 13.10? I know 12.04 is the LTS, but they've really fixed some stuff in newer kernels since then, and upgrading fixed graphics problems for me (nvidia GTX 460) awhile back.
[04:46] <kimprince> no ruien.  I'll look into it
[04:46] <kimprince> ChogyDan, I don't have a /var/X11 directory
[04:46] <ruien> booting to a live USB is a pretty low-risk way of seeing if the kernel version or newer libraries might help, or if they won't.
[04:46] <kostkon> ruien: 12.04.4 comes with the 13.10 kernel and X
[04:47] <ChogyDan> kimprince: sorry, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:47] <tomreyn> kimprince: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:47] <tomreyn> and i'm late
[04:48] <thechris> Ok, managed to get the dual WQHD monitors to display things.  Major first step.
[04:48] <thechris> But only one will accept applicatiosn
[04:48] <thechris> eg, I can't move applications between monitors even though the mouse is visible on either screen
[04:49] <thechris> as well as the desktop.
[04:49] <kimprince> found the log file.  What now?
[04:49] <yeyeman> I have a problem with the software updater: It does not appear when I try to launch it
[04:49] <ChogyDan> thechris: how?
[04:49] <yeyeman> I can kind of install updates if I right click it from the unity launcher
[04:49] <thechris> ChogyDan: I'd like to say it was elegant, but I just rebooted the computer after updating the nvida driver
[04:49] <thechris> very windows-like
[04:50] <jcabb> yeyeman, does apt-get work in terminal?
[04:50] <ChogyDan> yeah, you need to reboot for driver and kernel updates, and a couple other things
[04:50] <yeyeman> jcabb, yes
[04:50] <yeyeman> jcabb, the problem is just that the window does not appear
[04:50] <jcabb> the gui wrapper? ok
[04:51] <yeyeman> yep
[04:51] <ChogyDan> !paste | kimprince
[04:53] <yeyeman> does anyone know how to bind "window spread" to a mouse button
[04:53] <yeyeman> ?
[04:55] <kimprince> OK, log file pasted, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6969163/
[04:55] <tomreyn> yeyeman: i don't know about that, but regarding your updater not showing up, run "update-manager" from a !terminal window and see what it reports.
[04:55] <ChogyDan> kimprince: can you paste the output of dkms status?
[04:56] <yeyeman> tomreyn, it says theming engine adwaita not found
[04:56] <kimprince> hang on...
[04:56] <ChogyDan> kimprince: wait, do you have nvidia drivers installed?
[04:56] <yeyeman> Gtk WARNING!!!
[04:57] <kimprince> ChogyDan, no, I uninstalled them recently.  Should I install them first?
[04:57] <ChogyDan> kimprince: i dunno, but that explains the nvidia not found error
[04:58] <tomreyn> yeyeman: did you install, later remove, a custom Desktop theme?
[04:59] <robincook> hi @robincook
[04:59] <sasuke> hi guys, i install kjots package in ubuntu12.04 , but its not working. I'm unable to create a  new book, new page ... any help
[04:59] <Serano> that's narcisistic
[04:59] <kimprince> ruien, downloading 13.10 right now
[05:00] <tomreyn> yeyeman: sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-standard
[05:00] <yeyeman> tomreyn, I have installed a bunch, but I don't remember removing anything
[05:00] <tomreyn> yeyeman: actually: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-themes-standard
[05:01] <ChogyDan> kimprince: erm, yeah, I guess if the error happens when nvidia is installed, then you would need to post Xorg0log from when you actually have nvidia installed
[05:01] <tomreyn> yeyeman: looks like the default theme got removed
[05:01] <ruien> kimprince: kostkon mentioned that the latest 12.04 does have a pretty new kernel and X, but I still think it'll be a nice test to see what 13.10 does. Also, can you tell me what nvidia driver options you have? Here's the command: apt-cache search 'nvidia-' | grep -P '^nvidia-\d+-updates'
[05:01] <yeyeman> tomreyn, will that mess with what I currently have??
[05:02] <olinux> trying to set a directory writable by all members of group .. so .. find -type d -exec chmod 2775 {} \;
[05:02] <tomreyn> yeyeman: not if what you have now was installed properly / in a clean way / without messing with files of another package (which is a no, no, no)
[05:03] <olinux> user1 can create file, but user2 doesnt have permission to edit
[05:03] <sasuke> im seeing this error msg while opening
[05:03] <sasuke> http://imagebin.org/294753
[05:03] <olinux> but user2 can delete it
[05:04] <ChogyDan> sasuke: do you have akonadi?
[05:04] <xangua> ruien:  kimprince you can install 3.11 kernel in precise via official repositories
[05:05] <kimprince> here is the output of apt-cache, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6969181/
[05:05] <sasuke> ChogyDan, is it a service?, if yes "command not found" it is saying
[05:05] <ChogyDan> sasuke: fwiw, kjots works fine for me in 13.10
[05:05] <sasuke> /etc/init.d/akonadi: command not found
[05:05] <kimprince> ruien, what is he 3.11 kernet? a linux kernel?
[05:05] <yeyeman> tomreyn, Now it says "Warning cant load fallback CSS resource ... does not exist"
[05:06] <kimprince> sorry - should have been for xangua
[05:06] <yeyeman> tomreyn, and does not open gui ofc
[05:06] <ChogyDan> sasuke: maybe try akonadictl start
[05:08] <ruien> kimprince: the 3.11 kernel is the kernel that ubuntu 13.10 uses. It's just a newer version of the kernel. 14.04 currently runs the 3.13 kernel for instance. So, if your test works, what xangua means is that there is a way to get newer kernels without having to completely reinstall your system or dist-upgrade. The live USB is just a way to get some data to work with
[05:09] <kimprince> ruien, I'm actually downloading the whole 13.10 to a cd.  As far as I know I can boot from the cd and run it as a test.  Does that sound right?
[05:09] <kcdehimposter> Question: Does anybody have a good suggestion for a wireless adapter that is under $30 that will work well for Ubuntu?
[05:09] <tomreyn> yeyeman: hmm CSS i only know from the web, i'm afraid i can't help then
[05:10] <ruien> kimprince: that's exactly what I'm suggesting, yes. So, if it doesn't work, you didn't waste a bunch of time and break stuff upgrading your system to find out that it didn't work. I usually use a USB drive, not a CD, but it's the same concept.
[05:11] <NfNitLoop> Hi!   I'm trying to understand the output of ldd.  Is this binary really relying on multiple versions of the same library?  http://pastebin.com/9L66uVHU
[05:11] <yeyeman> tomreyn, thnx anyway
[05:12] <crystalmatrix-EM> night
[05:12] <Beldar> kimprince, Did you check if the iso exceeded a cd data limits?
[05:12] <Karunamon> So the whole NFS thing is really confusing the hell out of me now
[05:13] <crystalmatrix-EM> i have some problems ineed install app,
[05:13] <sasuke> ChogyDan, i'm not sure , but i got some error i guess
[05:13] <Karunamon> apparently my client is defaulting to v4? If I tell the client to mount the root dir, the mount *succeeds*, and then gets me to an empty dir with my actual mount point in it
[05:13] <sasuke> http://imagebin.org/294761
[05:13] <Karunamon> great, but I both don't want to use V4 and want to mount my exported folder directly
[05:14] <ruien> NfNitLoop: which GLIBC version do you have? Find out using "ldd --version" -- it feels like you're running a pre-compiled binary on a system with an older GLIBC than the one it was compiled on, and that's ldd looking for equivalents
[05:14] <Karunamon> setting the --no-nfs-version 4 in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server appears to have no effect
[05:14] <Karunamon> and I still can't mount the blasted thing :(
[05:15] <NfNitLoop> ruien: I kindof figured that.   I'm just trying to figure out what all those version info lines mean.  :)   ldd --version says: ldd (Ubuntu EGLIBC 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.5) 2.11.1
[05:15] <kimprince> Beldar, just dealing with that now
[05:15] <NfNitLoop> (Yes. It's old. I should upgrade.  Just want to confirm that an upgrade will fix it before I go through the effort.)  :p
[05:16] <tapout> hey fellas, is there a way to 'calculate' what changed from the ubuntu install?  So I can see what I've changed and replicate it later?
[05:16] <NfNitLoop> tapout: as in packages installed?  Configuration files modified?
[05:17] <tapout> well, start off with packages installed, from there perhaps configuration files modified
[05:18] <Serano> you could check it for changes fairly easy but the specifics, don't believe so.
[05:18] <Serano> but it's not impossible
[05:19] <tapout> there isn't a way to compute what's in 'base ubuntu' vs what is present now?
[05:20] <Serano> well with hashes you could easily check where changes were made.
[05:20] <tapout> i'm just talking about packages right now
[05:20] <tapout> not so much configuration files
[05:20] <Serano> if you go deep enough you might. But I would lack the knowledge :)
[05:21] <Serano> dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[05:21] <Serano> this would give you all installed packages
[05:22] <ruien> NfNitLoop: I'm not an expert, but I think that an upgrade will fix the problem. The lines say things like this: "libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/libc.so.6", which means that the requirement of some function in libc.so.6 with a GLIBC_2.2.5 version was satisfied by your /lib/libc.so.6 file -- so, no problem at all. But it's the "not found" lines that break it, and upgrading should resolve those runtime dependencies.
[05:22] <tapout> ahh, so install another copy, do it on both and i know what changed.. okay cool thanks man
[05:22] <Serano> that would do the trick.
[05:23] <ruien> NfNitLoop: as an aside, I like to keep an Ubuntu 10.04 VM around for compiling binaries -- those tend to work pretty well most everywhere.
[05:23] <Serano> and with hashes you could compare which config files changed
[05:23] <Serano> or were different in which testcompy
[05:23] <Serano> copy*
[05:27] <NfNitLoop> ruien: Ooooh.  So the binary is relying on multiple *functions* from those libraries.  And some functions were introduced in newer versions of the library?  Hence the listing of multiple versions of the same library?
[05:29] <Karunamon> Any NFS ideas, guys? So far it looks like I need to force NFSv4 to be disabled and the option in /etc/defaults isn't doing it.
[05:29] <Karunamon> err.. /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server that is
[05:29] <ruien> NfNitLoop: Again, i'm not an expert, but I think it's more that the symbols it's trying to link against in those SO files are versioned, so the linker can't be sure about all of them matching. For example, calling a function X in a different version of a library may or may not produce what you expected. GLIBC tries to be backwards-compatible, so a newer version should run code compiled for an older one, but not the other way around.
[05:30] <ruien> so, if you compile a binary on a pretty old system (i used ubuntu 10.04 as an example), you are usually pretty sure that those will find workable implementations on most systems
[05:30] <NfNitLoop> Hrmmm.  OK.  I kindof wish there were an "ldd for dummies" book I could read. :p
[05:31] <NfNitLoop> But it's my bed time.  Thanks for your help.  :)
[05:31] <ruien> good luck :) oh, and look into the "patchelf" program if you like binaries -- that knowledge might come in handy.
[05:31] <Barrin6> watching this ubuntu phone dock
[05:31] <Barrin6> where the hell can I get this right now! I wnat!
[05:40] <xangua> !touch | Barrin6
[05:45] <main_> where can I get help with 14.04?
[05:46] <hggdh> main_: at #ubuntu+1
[05:46] <main_> thanks
[05:46] <Barrin6> can anyone recommend a pdf editor? I just need to use something to fill in some blanks in a PDF
[05:46] <raj> will a symlink break if I move the symlink
[05:46] <raj> ?
[05:47] <hggdh> raj: only if you move the *target* of a symlink
[05:47] <raj> hggdh, what if I move the directory that contains the target and the symlink?
[05:47] <raj> so relatively speaking, they're still in tact
[05:48] <hggdh> raj: n, you moved the target...
[05:48] <hggdh> no*
[05:48] <raj> ok, got it
[05:48] <raj> thanks
[05:48] <hggdh> yw
[05:49] <ruien> raj: I beg to differ, I think it quite depends on whether you're working with a relative or absolute symlink, and even with a relative symlink, moving either the source or target will break it, but you could move the parent directory and it would be fine.
[05:49] <aki2389> Barrin6: Adobe?
[05:50] <Barrin6> yea
[05:50] <hggdh> raj: ruien is correct -- if it is a relative symlink, moving the target may, or may not affect. Thanks, ruien, for the correction
[05:50] <raj> ruien, does ln -s create relative or absolute symlinks?
[05:50] <ruien> both
[05:50] <ruien> ln -s foo bar is relative
[05:50] <ruien> ln -s /path/to/foo bar is absolute
[05:51] <raj> it's ln -s ../etc abc
[05:51] <Serano> then it's relative
[05:51] <raj> so absolute
[05:51] <raj> ?
[05:51] <ruien> that's relative
[05:51] <raj> how?
[05:51] <Serano> because yiou say from this directory go one up into etc
[05:51] <raj> oh, if it's path from root?
[05:51] <Serano> if you start from / it's absolute
[05:51] <sasuke> can anyone tell me solution plz.. i was unable to create new book/page in kjots in ubuntu12.04
[05:51] <ruien> right. If it starts with a slash, it's absolute; otherwise, relative.
[05:52] <raj> got it
[05:52] <raj> thank you very much ruien, hggdh , Serano
[06:00] <Heratiki> Hullo all!
[06:01] <Heratiki> Looking for a little help if anyone is actually awake out there.
[06:01] <Serano> just ask the question :)
[06:01] <Heratiki> I'm looking for some software on Ubuntu Server that would allow me to send download links to be downloaded remotely.
[06:02] <ScyllaBus> Are there any ubuntu distros that support Intel HD 4000? Every distro I've tried does not appear to have any drivers for my Acer Aspire V5 laptop. I keep getting a message "software rendering mode"
[06:02] <ScyllaBus> And I always have to start with "nosetmode" on or else the screen goes black upon boot.
[06:02] <Serano> Heratiki could you be more precise? As in i have a link and I want my remote server to download it?
[06:03] <ruien> ScyllaBus: I had a similar problem in the past, and had to use Ubuntu 10.04, where it "just worked" immediately after booting even on a Live USB. This was not an Intel HD 4000 but probably something similar; I can't remember what exactly.
[06:03] <Heratiki> Sure Serano, So lets say I was browsing the web on my laptop and see a download link I would like to have downloaded on my linux server instead of my laptop.
[06:04] <ruien> ScyllaBus: It would be a good datapoint to try booting a few of the older Ubuntu LTS releases to see if you encounter a similar situation. In this case the latest driver built for it did not support anything past a particular 2.6.x kernel, so that was the problem.
[06:04] <Serano> in console: wget <link>
[06:04] <Semor_> how do I create one virtual IP on my host ?
[06:04] <Heratiki> It's a headless server and I administer it primarily through ssh and webmin.
[06:04] <Serano> Heratiki the command above is your friend :)
[06:04] <ScyllaBus> So..are you saying I should be able to install an earlier version of ubuntu, and then upgrade and it should work fine?
[06:05] <Heratiki> Yeah I was looking for some more automated way Serano if that's at all possible.  Not looking for someone to solve my problem but instead automate it LOL.
[06:05] <ruien> ScyllaBus: no, no - definitely not saying you can upgrade afterward. In my case, this very old machine is still running 10.04, and probably will forever.
[06:05] <ScyllaBus> Or would I have to stick with the older version forever?
[06:05] <Serano> as in press a button in the browser and the server downloads it entirely on its own?
[06:05] <ScyllaBus> Until a supported version?
[06:05] <Heratiki> Like say have a Chrome/Firefox extension that would allow me to call the wget function without having to completely shell in?
[06:05] <Heratiki> Yes Serano, that's what I was thinking.
[06:06] <Serano> Semor_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/313877/how-do-i-add-an-additional-ip-address-to-etc-network-interfaces
[06:06] <Serano> first hit on google
[06:06] <Heratiki> I'm not demanding just seeing if anyone has attempted anything similar.
[06:06] <ruien> ScyllaBus: Probably will never be supported again, because not enough people care about that video driver to do the work of making it compatible with a new kernel. What i'm essentially saying is that it's a mutually-exclusive relationship between the driver that supports the ancient hardware and a modern OS.
[06:06] <Heratiki> I don't know how to code extensions but I would think it would be useful and might work on it if there isn't one available.
[06:06] <ruien> on the other hand, 10.04 was a Fantastic release, so I don't really care. It suits what i use the box for.
[06:07] <ScyllaBus> Still new to ubuntu, would 10.04 still do good for gaming? I.E. with Steam and PlayOnLinux?
[06:07] <ScyllaBus> I mean I suppose performance depends more on the actual software you want to use rather than the operating system
[06:07] <ruien> No, it wouldn't, definitely not. I think 12.04 is the minimum. But an intel graphics chip usually is not for gaming, right?
[06:07] <Serano> I think you still would have to go about getting download link from the page. You should have to open the link. So you would still have to result to compy link location and enter it in somewhere.
[06:07] <Serano> if that seems fit for you
[06:07] <Semor_> Serano:After I add a new ip ,could I connect it from eth0 ?
[06:08] <Heratiki> ScyllaBus: 12.04 would be the minimum for Steam and PlayOnLinux works better the closer to bleeding edge you get unfortunately.
[06:08] <Serano> you could get away with a 5 line big ssh script
[06:08] <ruien> ScyllaBus: the server I'm referring to is an internal fileserver not exposed to the internet
[06:08] <ScyllaBus> Darn.
[06:08] <ScyllaBus> So there's no way to run the latest version of ubuntu on my laptop?
[06:08] <Serano> Semor_: no the interface is eth0:1
[06:08] <ScyllaBus> Without using software rendering mode?
[06:08] <Serano> or eth0:0
[06:08] <Serano> you just create a virtual interface on the same interface so it can handle 2 ip's
[06:09] <Semor_> Serano:I want to config my lvs environment
[06:09] <Heratiki> That's a good idea Serano, I wonder if I could create a bookmarklet capable of that.
[06:09] <ruien> ScyllaBus: well, even if you could, your graphics driver isn't going to support all of the OpenGL extensions and everything that modern games expect, so they won't run, and you'd have to run software mode anyway.
[06:09] <Serano> Heratiki i bet you could even do it with some javascript on a page that you bookmark
[06:10] <Serano> but the problem remains, how would you pinpoint the right link on the page
[06:10] <Heratiki> Yeah that's what I was thinking.  But calling to SSH using just Javascript I don't think would be possible.
[06:10] <Serano> it wopuld still require some action on your part
[06:10] <Serano> maybe you could write an extension to your browser so that when you right click the link
[06:11] <Serano> the javascript or w/escript is started
[06:11] <Heratiki> Maybe have the Javascript pick up all download links available on the page and you pick which ones to send?
[06:11] <Serano> then I would prefer my last suggestion
[06:11] <Serano> since that requires only 1 user interaction instead of 2/3
[06:11] <Heratiki> ScyllaBus: have you tried these drivers? https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=13815
[06:11] <Serano> 1. right click, select or bookmarklet -> list links -> pick right link -> click
[06:12] <Heratiki> Yeah and I would have to teach myself either javascript bookmarklets or how to code extensions so I guess it's time to start learning.
[06:13] <Heratiki> Thank you for the help Serano
[06:13] <Serano> yw, good luck!
[06:13] <Serano> and if you succeed let me know :) i could use it too
[06:15] <Serano> btw Heratiki: on the ssh in javascript problem. you could if you run linux. Since it would be on the console.
[06:15] <Serano> or php' exec()
[06:16] <Heratiki> Yeah true.  And Chrome has an SSH Extension as well.  I originally thought of some type of software on the server side that I could send short commands like wget.
[06:16] <Heratiki> Yeah I need to learn a lot haha.
[06:17] <Serano> actually come to think about it, it would still be hard through ssh
[06:17] <Serano> since you would still have to identify yourself.
[06:17] <Serano> with a open python socket listening for commands you might
[06:17] <TJ-> Heratiki: what is it you're trying to achieve? I missed the beginning of your issue
[06:18] <Heratiki> I'm attempting to easily send a remote download link to my headless server.
[06:18] <TJ-> Heratiki: I thought so - I do that :)
[06:18] <Heratiki> Example. Browsing the web and see a file I would like on my server.  Right Click and choose download to server.
[06:19] <Heratiki> Something like that.  Or maybe a download manager that would allow me to choose the server as a location to download to.  LOL
[06:20] <Heratiki> Although you know.  I could really just download dropbox on my server and then send the download link to dropbox I believe.
[06:20] <Heratiki> Though that seems quite a roundabout way.
[06:20] <TJ-> Heratiki: Locally, I ssfs mount an (empty) directory from the server. On the server is an inotifywait based shell script that watches for new files in that directory and when one appears, it checks it contains a valid URL (its just a text file) and if so passes the URL to wget, then moves the file into a ./downloaded/ sub-dir.
[06:20] <ScyllaBus> Ahh what the. I can't load my ubuntu. The grub menu does not appear to load. I'm trying to do "nomodeset" but I can't since I can't even see the grub menu.
[06:21] <kimprince> ruien, 13.10 looks fine on my PC, but runs really slow.  Presumably its slow because of the USB?
[06:21] <TJ-> Heratiki: Then locally, you can either create the links manually (just write a text file into the directory containing the URL), or have some browser add-on like flashgot save the links
[06:22] <shadej> hello everyone
[06:22] <rannonga> hi shadej
[06:22] <Heratiki> Hmmmm...
[06:22] <Heratiki> Hello shadej
[06:22] <shadej> openjdk-7 is not my package list,how do I add it?
[06:22] <ruien> kimprince: Yes, slow because of USB. It's really a well-optimized release.
[06:22] <TJ-> Heratiki: s/ssfs/sshfs/ :)
[06:23] <kimprince> OK.  So looks like I can install in parallel with 12.04, just in case?
[06:23] <Serano> shadej: http://openjdk.java.net/install/
[06:26] <Heratiki> TJ, the only problem with ssfs would be that moving between different operating systems could cause a headache.  But definitely what I will use with Crunchbang.
[06:26] <Serano> Heratiki i know a bypass for that with his system
[06:27] <Heratiki> ?
[06:27] <Serano> for openvpn config distribution i use bittorrent sync. You could save that text file locally in a directory that is in sync with a dir on the server
[06:27] <TJ-> Heratiki: For Windows, you could use WinSCP and push the URL file to the server's directory, directly, rather than have it locally mounted
[06:27] <Serano> and then with an ssh script and/or cron you could get wget to the textfile
[06:27] <Heratiki> See the way that bittorrent works is exactly what I want only with normal downloads LOL
[06:28] <Serano> bittorrent sync
[06:28] <pol> are sites like http://www.000webhost.com/ (free hosting) supports(or any provision to install) web servers like apache/nginx/other?
[06:28] <Serano> its a diffferent protocol
[06:28] <Serano> its p2p between your devices
[06:28] <TJ-> Heratiki: There is also sftpdrive  for windows
[06:28] <Heratiki> True TJ, the only problem that I could use puTTY and wget to go just as fast as using WinSCP.
[06:28] <Serano> its p2p cloud between your network
[06:28] <Serano> nods
[06:28] <Heratiki> Hmm Serano, I'll check that out as well.
[06:29] <Serano> and very easy to setup
[06:29] <shadej> Serano: the link shows how to install openjdk-7,but I am saying the package is not on my list
[06:29] <Serano> shadej: m@elegbeta:~$ sudo apt-cache search openjdk-7-jre
[06:29] <Serano> openjdk-7-jre - OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT
[06:29] <TJ-> Heratiki: If you've got an HTTP service on the server, set up a URL listener that receives the URL required via a simple HTTP GET
[06:30] <TJ-> Heratiki: You could do a simple listener with netcat
[06:30] <Heratiki> I could do that TJ- I wonder how secure that would be outside of my own network?  I
[06:30] <Heratiki> All great ideas though.
[06:31] <Serano> many technologies, many options, which one you choose is yours :)
[06:31] <Serano> the great thing about open source: choice!
[06:31] <shadej> Serano: what is that for? to search my package list?
[06:31] <Heratiki> LOL Serano, for sure!
[06:31] <Serano> shadej: try sudo apt-get search openjdk
[06:31] <TJ-> Heratiki: Very... you pass a magic cookie value as part of the GET request, and do it over HTTPS
[06:32] <Serano> then install it with the packagename returnname and the command: sudo apt-get install packagename
[06:32] <shadej> Serano: I did and there is nothing about openjdk-7
[06:33] <Heratiki> I'm checking to see if Chrome can handle ssh:// links.
[06:34] <TJ-> Heratiki: If you went the HTTP(S) service route, you'd only need a simple Send-To add-in for the browser, which would be a context-menu option on links
[06:35] <Heratiki> Interesting TJ.
[06:36] <Serano> well at least you have a little project now :)
[06:38] <TJ-> Heratiki: I do recall seeing something like that, or else writing one for Firefox myself, some years ago
[06:39] <TJ-> Heratiki: It was in the context of a remote-bookmark storage service I wrote
[06:40] <Heratiki> If it comes to mind let me know.  I'm searching on how to push info from a bookmarklet to a webserver.
[06:41] <Heratiki> Something similar to (javascript: window.sshuser = prompt('Login to ' + window.location.hostname + ' as', window.sshuser || ''); user = (window.sshuser ? window.sshuser + '@' : ''); window.location = 'ssh://' + user + window.location.hostname)
[06:41] <Heratiki> But instead of pushing to the address bar it would allow me to send a direct command.
[06:42] <TJ-> Heratiki: If you use the HTTP(S) idea then all you need to do is a simple HTTP request
[06:42] <DF3D2> whats a good terminal emulator that can set tab names ?
[06:42] <Heratiki> Yup I'm also looking up an HTTP server setup.
[06:43] <olinux_> i'd like to set a directory writable by all members of group .. so any future files can be edited by others in the same group
[06:47] <Heratiki> Thank you for all your help.  I'll be sure and let you know what I come up with.  Off to sleep for me!
[06:48] <binali> Hi!
[06:48] <binali> I need help!)
[06:49] <wheatthin> binali, !ask
[06:51] <binali> How can I install apps from ubuntu lucid on ubuntu saucy with apt-get ?
[06:51] <binali> I need KSimus or Ktechlab
[06:52] <binali> But, it's avaible only for lucid...
[06:52] <khildin> you could download the .deb or (not recommended) add the lucid repo in sources.list
[06:53] <TJ-> binali: The dependencies might not allow it; unless you're an expert it is not a good idea to mix release repositories
[06:53] <wheatthin> why not just do a full upgrade?
[06:55] <binali> May I add lucid repo  and after installation delete lucid repo
[06:55] <binali> ?
[06:55] <TJ-> binali: The best approach might be to create a Lucid chroot to run it in
[06:55] <TJ-> binali: Not a good idea! Not unless you want to break the package management
[06:55] <makara> hi. I have two NICs, and Ubuntu detected them when I installed and asked me to choose the default, but now - ifconfig - I only see lo, and eth0. `ifup eth1` fails
[06:56] <TJ-> binali: The software hasn't been updated for over 10 years
[06:56] <TJ-> makara: "ifconfig -a"
[06:57] <binali> People, I need alternative for Electronics Worckbench)
[06:57] <merlin1978> if the visitor has slow connection and far from your server does this affect the server's resources like cpu, bandwidth, memory, etc...  ?
[06:57] <makara> TJ-, ok I see eth1
[06:58] <TJ-> makara: "ifup eth1" won't do anything unless there's a stanza in "/etc/network/interfaces" for that interface
[06:59] <binali> Is it simple way, if I download all .deb and install it with dpkg?
[06:59] <shadej> merlin1978: it may affect your bandwidth  but not that much I think
[06:59] <binali> Sorry for my english =)
[07:12] <bjorn96> how can i use silverlight on ubuntu?
[07:13] <hateball> !silverlight
[07:16] <bjorn96> .t E: Klarer ikke å finne pakken moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[07:19] <bjorn96> .t Klarer ikke å finne pakken moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[07:19] <bjorn96> doesent translate work here?
[07:20] <bjorn96> terminal error: Can't seem to find the package moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[07:23] <ruien> bjorn96: "    apt-cache search 'moonlight-plugin-mozilla'    " doesn't turn up anything for me -- are you sure what you're looking for exists?
[07:23] <Rudde> Hi, i've just installed ubuntu 12 on my laptop it had WiFi capabilities during install but don't have it after install how is that even possible?
[07:24] <bjorn96> have u enabled the wifi key?
[07:24] <Rudde> I don't have a wifi key on the laptop
[07:24] <varun_> Rudde, not only is it possible, but is common too, especially with some broadcom chips.
[07:25] <Rudde> I have intel chip
[07:25] <bjorn96> ruien: no, i have no idea how i get the plugin??
[07:25] <Rudde> Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235
[07:25] <ruien> bjorn96: is it just a firefox plugin? You should be able to install it from the browser, no need for apt, unless I'm missing something?
[07:26] <varun_> Rudde, can you run a script to give us a detailed report ? I'll give you the link with instructions..
[07:27] <Rudde> Yes, what script shall I run?
[07:27] <varun_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12350385#post12350385 Rudde
[07:28] <varun_> Rudde, give us the pastebin link to the report it generates
[07:28] <bjorn96> ruien: im not shure at all. all i know is that i use chromium. :)
[07:30] <Rudde> http://pastebin.com/dPN1ffFh
[07:32] <ruien> bjorn96: I don't need silverlight, so I have not tried it, but this looks like what you might want: http://dennygoot.blogspot.com/2012/01/moonlight-installed-in-firefox-on.html
[07:33] <varun_> Rudde, it is a 7260 chip, that needs a newer firmware that is not yet present in your system.
[07:34] <Rudde> Hmm, how can I get it?
[07:34] <Rudde> But why did it work during installation?
[07:35] <varun_> Rudde, not sure. For now, please try - "sudo apt-get update" .... then ........ "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ..... then ..... "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware"
[07:36] <Rudde> nothing new on any of them
[07:37] <varun_> Rudde, as per my knowledge, the required firmware should have been part of 3.11 kernel (and later). It might have been corrupted or something else. Did the update/dist-upgrade finish successfully?
[07:38] <Rudde> yes
[07:38] <Rudde> and i have restarted since
[07:39] <Rudde> Also this worked when I had the laptop in non UEFI mode, but I had other bugs there
[07:40] <varun_> Rudde, UEFI or Legacy modes have nothing to do with wireless functionality, so don't worry about that. Please do now - "sudo apt-get clean" .. then.. "sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware"
[07:41] <kimprince> ruien, this 13.10 install got to the last few bits but it has been stuck on Downloading Packages for more than an hour.  If I hit skip, will these packages get downloaded later?
[07:41] <kimprince> seems to be working on ubuntu ubiquity
[07:42] <Rudde> and restart?
[07:42] <ruien> kimprince: ah, i live in china so i have that problem too sometimes -- it's stupid and doesn't let you choose a good mirror for installation. My "solution" is to completely disconnect internet during installation, so it has to install offline. Then, I just install updates after i've set a good mirror.
[07:43] <kimprince> thanks ruien..
[07:43] <varun_> Rudde, restart shouldn't be necessary. We can manually reload the module
[07:46] <suore> Hello i have problem ducument viewar not printing 2 paged at  1 paper page as landscape.....
[07:47] <suore> need help, its vey important how to pring pdf file at landscape (2 pages at 1 paper page)
[07:47] <suore> landscape
[07:50] <mufic> 01142803256
[07:51] <Rudde> varun_: I found this: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi installed from there and solved the problem :)
[07:51] <Rudde> Thanks for your time, and debugging anyway :)
[07:51] <varun_> Rudde, awesome !
[07:53] <varun_> Rudde, while looking for an older post (when the firmware was not part of kernel), I found this new one that may be interesting for you, should you face any inconsistency issues : http://askubuntu.com/a/411515
[07:55] <Rudde> Yeah something like that I did just that iwlwifi-7260 didnt exists in firmware diretory from before
[07:56] <Rudde> And didn't know I had a -ac card in this PC, no wonder why the network was so fast when I was testing it before
[07:56] <wheatthin> how come the default browser setting doesn't launch urls in my default browser?
[07:57] <wheatthin> without having to right click to launch a link
[07:58] <varun_> Rudde, it seems you can use its full capability since kernel 3.13+ (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2178873&p=12930277#post12930277)
[07:58] <Rudde> Is ubuntu 13 in kernel 3.13?
[07:59] <varun_> Rudde, Nope, it is still under development. Perhaps better not to experiment when it is working, and let it come naturally with recommended updates :)
[07:59] <wheatthin> latest?
[08:00] <wheatthin> 3.11.0-17 is with the updates
[08:00] <Rudde> indeed, will it come to ubuntu 12 to?
[08:00] <ruien> Rudde: no, ubuntu 14.04 uses kernel 3.13 currently
[08:01] <mufic> facebook
[08:02] <mufic> hi
[08:02] <oinkers> nope not facebook
[08:02] <oinkers> this is irc
[08:02] <mufic> what is your opinion in ubuntu
[08:02] <oinkers> lol
[08:02] <oinkers> i love it
[08:02] <oinkers> it's free
[08:02] <varun_> Rudde, probably 12.04.5 will have whatever version 14.04 will come with : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[08:02] <mufic> from where you
[08:02] <oinkers> and doesn't spy on you like windows
[08:03] <mufic> i know
[08:04] <mufic> you use it??
[08:04] <oinkers> of course
[08:04] <helmut_> hi
[08:04] <oinkers> hi
[08:04] <mufic> hi
[08:05] <icedwater> oinkers: how do you know it doesn't spy on you?
[08:05] <oinkers> multiple sources says it doesn't
[08:05] <oinkers> A for security
[08:05] <varun_> icedwater, don't disclose the long kept secret :P
[08:05] <oinkers> windows d- and f
[08:06] <oinkers> lol
[08:06] <icedwater> varun_: sorry, wrong channel :P
[08:06]  * icedwater joins #win95
[08:06] <oinkers> lmfao
[08:06] <oinkers> windows 3.1
[08:06] <oinkers> where are those floppy disks
[08:07] <icedwater> You mean flappy disks.
[08:07] <oinkers> yes
[08:07] <kimprince> ruien, do you know if I can access an old storage partitioned for 12.04 with 13.10?  (It would be great to be able to access my old files this way...)
[08:07] <ruien> kimprince: lol, yes, of course - no problem.
[08:07] <icedwater> kimprince: I don't think partitions vary by distribution version.. did you check what filesystem is in use?
[08:09] <kimprince> The install split my main drive (not the one with OS installed) in half.  I can only see one half from the file manager.  How do I see/load/mount the other partition?
[08:09] <rannonga> sudo fdisk -l to find the partitions
[08:10] <rannonga> then sudo mount /dev/partition dest
[08:10] <Guest33920> #join /python
[08:10] <varun_> kimprince, Ubuntu installer does not split partitions just like that. If it split it, it must have used it for some mount point. As such, it would be now part of your last installation and may have been overwritten (partially)
[08:11] <RockyRoad> Hi there :)
[08:12] <RockyRoad> I need help to fix java install or remove on ubuntu 13.04 before being able to upgrade
[08:12] <Blanco|taf> Hi
[08:13] <RockyRoad> I couldn't find any solution on the web
[08:13] <RockyRoad> Would someone be able to guide me ?
[08:14] <makara> hi. I can't do updates `sudo apt-get update` = `Err http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security Release.gpg \ Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'`
[08:14] <varun_> RockyRoad, not much idea about java, but is it preventing you from updating?
[08:14] <makara> and /etc/resolv.conf is empty
[08:14] <RockyRoad> it is. apt-get returns error each time
[08:15] <varun_> makara, is it a normal installation? that file can't be empty
[08:15] <Noobler> hello
[08:15] <makara> varun_, its a server, 12.04
[08:15] <Noobler> helllllllllllo
[08:15] <Noobler> herrooo
[08:15] <varun_> RockyRoad, please give us the pastebin link to the exact error you get while updating..
[08:15] <RockyRoad> would a pastebin of log help ?
[08:16] <varun_> :)
[08:16] <RockyRoad> !
[08:16] <ruien> makara: maybe echo 192.168.1.1 (or whatever your DNS server is) to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base and 'service resolvconf restart'?
[08:17] <varun_> makara, the error you are getting means apt is reading sources from *somewhere*, (also, the failure may indeed be temporary - server down or something like that)
[08:18] <makara> ruien, base is empty, original has my nameserver in it
[08:19] <varun_> makara, maybe search for the string "http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security" in you /etc/apt directory (grep -R 'http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security' /etc/apt)
[08:19] <ruien> makara: what do you mean, "original"? resolvconf has two pieces, "base" and "head", and you put your nameserver in "base". Then "service resolvconf restart" builds /etc/resolv.conf for you
[08:20] <uronu> hello
[08:20] <ruien> makara:  should look something like "nameserver 192.168.1.1" in "base", at least that's what I have, and yes I have to do this when installing ubuntu (/etc/resolv.conf being empty at first is normal)
[08:20] <makara> ruien, i, or someone else, must have run some script that renamed it
[08:20] <uronu> how to dual boot ubuntu with ubuntu
[08:20] <uronu> ?
[08:21] <RockyRoad> varun_, Here is end of my /var/log/apt/term.log : https://gist.github.com/RockyRoad29/9130602
[08:24] <makara> ruien, I've rebooted, resolv.conf has rebuilt, and now apt-get update just hangs
[08:25] <ruien> makara: can you ping something? ping baidu.com -- what happens?
[08:26] <varun_> RockyRoad, "ERROR 403: Sorry, not allowed to fetch that type of file: jdk-8-ea-bin-b124-linux-x64-19_jan_2014.tar.gz" <--- not sure what to do with this kind of error. Are you getting error while doing normal update (sudo apt-get update) too?
[08:26] <makara> ruien, no, but I can't from another server, nor my laptop
[08:26] <makara> it resolves though
[08:27] <ruien> it resolves to an IP, but no ping to any host (google.com, etc)? Seems like a network problem, not a /etc/resolv.conf problem
[08:28] <mufic> hi
[08:28] <makara> ruien, firewall is probably blocking icmp
[08:28] <rannonga> hi mufic
[08:28] <makara> i can ping another internal server
[08:28] <ruien> makara: ah, so "telnet google.com 80" works okay, right?
[08:29] <RockyRoad_> varun_, some time ago I tried to fix java by installing the jdk by hand, now I'm afraid it's all a mess
[08:29] <makara> ruien, interesting. it doesn't.
[08:30] <rannonga> RockyRoad_: why didnt you install the ubuntu packages
[08:31] <mufic> i have aproblem with install netbeans can any one help me??
[08:32] <mufic> hi rannonga
[08:32] <ruien> makara: okay, it's a network or firewall problem then. try to debug that (ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces), let me know in PM if you need help.
[08:33] <RockyRoad_> some apps needed the oracle jdk, so I went the webup8 way ...
[08:33] <makara> ruien, i've set a static IP for eth0
[08:33] <mufic> ok i install jdk
[08:33] <mufic> i use ubuntu 13.10
[08:33] <rannonga> mufic just sudo apt-get install netbeans it will pull in all of the deps
[08:34] <makara> ruien, http://pastebin.com/8VGXgNpF
[08:35] <makara> ruien, http://pastebin.com/2LvSNwmD
[08:35] <ruien> makara: okay, i'll check it out in a minute and PM you. Buried in some work at the moment.
[08:35] <makara> ruien, thanks
[08:36] <mufic> what can i do if i want to start learning java
[08:37] <makara> mufic, #java
[08:37] <mufic> yeah
[08:38] <kimprince> ruien, thanks VERY much for your help today.  You got me out of a really tight spot!
[08:39] <ruien> kimprince: no problem, my main workstation is ubuntu, too, and a non-functional system is not an option.
[08:39] <kimprince> yep,  :)  I am off for dinner!
[08:40] <ruien> have a good one
[08:40] <kimprince> you too
[08:41] <makara> ruien, its a routing issue out of my hands. Thanks 4 help
[08:41] <RockyRoad_> what is puzzling is that "apt-get purge oracle-java8-installer" fails https://gist.github.com/RockyRoad29/9130602#file-gistfile1-txt
[08:42] <ruien> makara: unfortunate :( if you could get any packets through, you could tunnel your traffic and probably solve the problem
[08:42] <iriri> Hello.
[08:43] <rannonga> hi iriri
[08:43] <iriri> I downloaded and installed via apt-get. When commanded "sudo startx" it  showed "cinammon error" notification (I don't even have cinnamon). I  commanded only "startx" and it showed a black screen for couple of  minutes. I rebooted computer, and finally an interface. But when I type  password on my user, it makes the sound of when it shows the interface  after booting, and get back to the interface as I never typed anything.  Typed several times and always 
[08:43] <iriri> OOPS
[08:44] <rannonga> iriri: ubuntu minimal?
[08:44] <iriri> 12.04
[08:44] <rannonga> weird
[08:44] <iriri> My  ubuntu wasn't booting. Showed a prompt "user-XY:login", i typedthe user  from the machine, it asked the password, I gave, and turned from a prompt  to a terminal style. I commanded "reboot", but I can't get into the  machine.
[08:44] <iriri> I don't want to lose all the infa I have there.
[08:45] <iriri> So, I installed the startx as I wrote above. (sorry, I inverted the text order, I'm copy/pasting)
[08:46] <iriri> I can use aurora on guest-user, so I didn't lose all the data.
[08:46] <iriri> Even so, I can't acess it.
[08:48] <ruien> iriri: can you get into a terminal? If so, you can just use a command-line tool like rsync to copy all of your data off the computer, then re-format it. That might not be the best approach, but getting your data off should make anything else you try a lot safer.
[08:48] <mufic> java and linux is two faces for one coins
[08:48] <rannonga> iriri tried changing your login manager?
[08:48] <leeyaa> hello
[08:49] <mufic> hi
[08:49] <leeyaa> how to add a custom script that i want to be executed on networking restart/start
[08:49] <iriri> I'm on the gues-user, as I can't boot by my normal-user. When I type password it shows the log-in page again.
[08:49] <iriri> guest*
[08:49] <iriri> The terminal can't sudo.
[08:49] <rannonga> leeyaa: whats networking restart
[08:49] <ruien> does root have a password? just "su -"
[08:49] <leeyaa> rannonga: /etc/init.d/networking restart for example
[08:49] <Lorith[Alpha]> iriri u can use the recovery boot
[08:50] <Lorith[Alpha]> to reset your pw
[08:50] <mufic> bye everyone :)
[08:52] <iriri> Yes.
[08:52] <iriri> Yes, I can use it. So as I can acess guest-user. What I want is to fix the normal-user
[08:53] <leeyaa> is it possible to do that ?
[08:54] <varun_> leeyaa, if the interface is controlled by the /etc/network/interfaces file, you can add your script to /etc/network/ifup.d (or ifdown.d) directory.
[08:55] <geirha> or write an upstart file that triggers on that event
[08:55] <leeyaa> varun_: what is the difference between two? ifup will start it on networking start ?
[08:56] <varun_> leeyaa, yup, the difference is as the name suggests.
[08:56] <leeyaa> it is a vpn interface, atm i am starting it from terminal
[08:56] <leeyaa> not sure how to add it to start on networking restart
[08:57] <varun_> leeyaa, it is also possible via adding your scripts to 'Upstart' jobs, but I don't know how to do that.
[08:58] <varun_> leeyaa, but if you are starting it manually from terminal, why don't you add the script to your starting command as well?
[08:58] <leeyaa> varun_: what do you mean ?
[09:00] <xeon> Hi everyone
[09:01] <varun_> leeyaa, if you have to enter a command in terminal MANUALLY anyway, what advantage would you get by automating the script. Just it manually too. OR, add your command to start the VPN interface to your script in question, and just run that modified script from the terminal
[09:01] <varun_> just *run it manually too *
[09:02] <leeyaa> varun_: but how to make it start when networking service is restarted
[09:02] <leeyaa> because atm if restart it vpn doesnt start on its own
[09:02] <xeon> I use BackTrack5 r3. Is  possible  hack the  web site with BackTrack?
[09:04] <DJones> xeon: Backtrack isn't supported here, neither is discussion about illegal activities
[09:04] <varun_> leeyaa, which physical interface your VPN uses? Is that interface controlled by the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[09:04] <leeyaa> varun_: no, i dont know how to do that
[09:04] <leeyaa> it uses eth0
[09:05] <leeyaa> thats the only physical interface
[09:05] <varun_> DJones, why not? I'm keen to tell everyone how I hacked into NSA servers yesterday.. :|
[09:06] <varun_> leeyaa, are you controlling eth0 via the interfaces file or with Network Manager?
[09:06] <leeyaa> varun_: it is set up in interfaces file
[09:06] <leeyaa> not sure what network manager is
[09:07] <leeyaa> im coming from centos and i inherited these ubuntu servers, so i feel very lame ;p
[09:07] <Karmahacker> Hi everyone! how could i limit Gnome interface to specific user ?
[09:08] <varun_> leeyaa, the GUI program where you manage the network connections from - that is, if you are using it.
[09:08] <TJ-> leeyaa: You can add an "     up ..." clause the the parent interface that executes a script to bring up the VPN
[09:08] <leeyaa> varun_: i dont have any gui on any of the machines
[09:08] <TJ-> leeyaa: What kind of VPN is it? IPSec, PPTP, SSL ?
[09:09] <leeyaa> erm, it is juniper network connect thing, interface is tun0
[09:09] <varun_> leeyaa, TJ- seems to have first hand experience with these, please try what he suggests
[09:09] <leeyaa> TJ-: not sure how to check it out. it does use ssl
[09:10] <TJ-> leeyaa: Network Manager is a system service that can manage network interfaces automatically... it also has a GUI front-end called nm-applet or similar, which is a small GUI client that talks to the network-manager service
[09:10] <leeyaa> TJ-: i dont have any gui and i am not allowed to install any
[09:11] <TJ-> leeyaa: If you already have the script to start the VPN, then for example in "/etc/network/interfaces" you might add to the "iface eth0 inet static" stanza, something like "    up /usr/local/bin/vpn_start.sh"
[09:12] <TJ-> leeyaa: You don't need a GUI for Network Manager, it's configurable via config files the same as other system services, but you don't need Network Manager either, if you configure the interfaces via "/etc/network/interfaces", which is used by the ifup/down scripts
[09:12] <abzmodeel> anyone familiar with ubuntu server
[09:13] <leeyaa> TJ-: so something like this then ? http://bpaste.net/show/979MHLnwaHRIVRkekFg2/
[09:14] <TJ-> leeyaa: Yes... for more info "man ifup" and see the "IFACE OPTIONS" section
[09:14] <leeyaa> interesting
[09:14] <leeyaa> thank you tj
[09:15] <TJ-> leeyaa: You can provide script in the usual location: "/etc/network/if-up.d/" - there's several sub-dirs there for the various stages of an interface's lifecycle
[09:15] <TJ-> leeyaa: down, post-down, pre-up, up
[09:16] <TJ-> leeyaa: A good tip: Debian/Ubuntu are *very* hot on having complete documentation of commands and config files in the man pages... so it ought to be your 1st port of call when you need to find something out like this
[09:17] <leeyaa> TJ-: im just very new to ubuntu, i will read documentation, but need to get that thing up and running first
[09:18] <TJ-> leeyaa: Another tip: if you know a command but don't know which package it is installed from: "dpkg-query -S <some-text-in-command-name>" will report the package-name.... To see everything that package installed "dpkg-query -L <package-name>"
[09:18] <TJ-> leeyaa: Yes, it's a strong learning curve switching from RHEL-based to Debian-based
[09:18] <yacc_> TJ-: actually, Debian is hot on having documentation, Ubuntu-specific stuff, especially if it's GUI related or internal admin stuff often ends up with 7 undocumented
[09:19] <TJ-> yacc_: Well, if it's GUI then there's not much use for a man-page!
[09:19] <yacc_> TJ-: last item coming to mind would be all the nice oem-config commands that only exist during an OEM install.
[09:19] <MKCoin> I disabled zeitgeist's collection of "Recent files" etc, but I noticed it still shows the last set of recent files from before I disabled collection. How can I clear out that cache?
[09:19] <yacc_> TJ-: well, config files, general purpose, and so on.
[09:19] <leeyaa> TJ-: there is no package for this vpn, actually it is from a rpm package. thanks for the tip tho
[09:20] <leeyaa> lets see if i will be able to make it auto start ;p
[09:20] <chanthu> hey
[09:21] <TJ-> yacc_: well there is man 8 oem-config-{firstboot,prepare,}
[09:21] <TJ-> yacc_: I suspect those being so specialised most of the knowledge is inside Canonical
[09:21] <yacc_> TJ-: not for the command that is run when you click on "prepare for end-user"
[09:22] <Squiggz> Does anyone use plex???
[09:22] <leeyaa> TJ-: can i configure that tun0 interface in interfaces file and then start it via ifup ?
[09:22] <leeyaa> or something like that ?
[09:22] <TJ-> leeyaa: Yes
[09:22] <Squiggz> I am having trouble with plex server reading my External hdd drive
[09:22] <yacc_> TJ-: anyway, Debian is slightly more religious than Ubuntu on having man pages.
[09:22] <Squiggz> with all my files on it
[09:23] <TJ-> yacc_: Indeed
[09:23] <TJ-> Squiggz: You broke it again?
[09:23] <yacc_> TJ-: Anyway, commercial environment, has it good and bad side. (E.g. the alternate installer was dropped before the GUI has all the functionality).
[09:24] <yacc_> TJ-: that would be creating a LVM with the manual partitioning tool (Hint: you won't do that)
[09:24] <Squiggz> TJ-: hahahaha
[09:24] <TJ-> yacc_: typical case isn't it? Some developers still don't seem grasp the basic user satisfaction issue of not removing functionality just because they have a shiney new toy to program
[09:24] <Squiggz> it is actually working great plex just wont recognize anything for some reason
[09:25] <yacc_> TJ-: well, not having a text mode installer (the mini.iso is not compatible with usb creator, and has potential issues with UEFI) is kind of stupid.
[09:26] <yacc_> TJ-: hardware should work, but realistically, in some cases you might need to configure/install manually before, ...
[09:26] <_Cody> i heard ubuntu does not use xorg. why can i still use stuff like xmodmap then?
[09:27] <yacc_> _Cody: it still uses X11.
[09:27] <yacc_> _Cody: we wanted to get rid of it, but it takes time it seems.
[09:27] <_Cody> innovation is always interesting :)
[09:28] <_Cody> ok, but then i am informed and can tell ubuntu-users they can use my keyboard layout too
[09:28] <ruien> Hello, According to debian policy at https://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat, a repository "shall provide the InRelease file, and might provide a Release file", but it seems that http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty provides "Release" only. If I am making a private ubuntu repo (not a mirror), should I follow debian Policy or follow the example of us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[09:30] <xiaojunyu> = =
[09:31] <logic_prog_> sudo /sbin/ifconfig eth1 up ==> eth1 got a ipv6 address, but no ipv4 address
[09:32] <logic_prog_> how do I force it to get a ipv4 address?
[09:33] <xiaojunyu> I do not know
[09:34] <RockyRoad_> varun_, I think I solved it \o/
[09:34] <RockyRoad_> https://gist.github.com/RockyRoad29/9130602#file-09_shell_interaction
[09:35] <RockyRoad_> I needed to  purge both java installers at once
[09:35] <RockyRoad_>  sudo apt-get purge oracle-java7-installer oracle-java8-installer
[09:36] <varun_> RockyRoad_, congrats
[09:36] <Squiggz> hey TJ-: any chance you can send me that line again for the 3.0
[09:36] <varun_> :)
[09:36] <scarleo> Hi, looking for some advice whether I should use amavisd (already installed) or opendkim for DKIM signing, anyone have any experience of the two?
[09:36] <RockyRoad_> thanks varun_
[09:36] <Squiggz> it works fine i jsut want it for future , you never know
[09:38] <IamTrying> http://iteration99.com/2013/php-json-licensing-and-php-5-5/  - Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit i am getting PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function json_decode()
[09:42] <TJ-> Squiggz: ?
[09:42] <Squiggz> yup im here
[09:42] <Squiggz> im on like 3 of these things sorry
[09:43] <TJ-> Oh, you mean the iommu= change?
[09:43] <Squiggz> yea the last one
[09:43] <TJ-> Feb 20 15:12:11 <TJ->   Squiggz: " sudo sed -i  's/\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)\("\)/\1 iommu=soft\2/' /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub"
[09:44] <Squiggz> thast it thanks
[09:47] <RockyRoad_> varun_, for some reason release upgrade silently fails
[09:47] <RockyRoad_> (from graphical software update ...)
[09:48] <smallmouse> can someone assist please I am on server (logged in ) and need to copy a file from that server onto my local machine.  I am in terminal.  I am using the following command but is not working.  root@server:~#    cp test_1.csv /home
[09:49] <varun_> RockyRoad_, it is not recommended anyway. Unless you are using everything from the recommended repositories only, and have been updating regularly, it is very prone to breakage. Fresh installation is the recommended way to upgrade.
[09:49] <wsnipex> scp test_1.csv [yourusername]@yourlocalmachine:~
[09:49] <smallmouse> wsnipex: thanks
[09:51] <RockyRoad_> So it means all manually installed packages and settings will be lost ?? not cool ...
[09:52] <varun_> RockyRoad_, bitter truth, although there are ways to carry them over to the new install, but I'm not much familiar with them.
[09:52] <TJ-> RockyRoad_: Do it from the terminal, you'll get useful info there or in the log-files
[09:52] <TJ-> RockyRoad_: "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[09:53] <RockyRoad_> THANKS T3, I didn't know that command
[09:53] <varun_> RockyRoad_, most of the installed packages get upgraded anyway, so it is usually not too different than reinstalling them fresh. But yeah, redoing the settings/preferences hurts.
[09:55] <varun_> RockyRoad_, installing the packages in one go is easy with "dpkg --get-selections > yourlistfile" and "sudo dpkg --set-selections.." commands
[09:56] <rambo3> Can you help me get this machine on the network, I havent booted into this machine in over a year . And internet is not working . /etc/hosts seems ok, restarted networking and nothing . I tryed disableing IPv6 and restarting neworking still nothing ,. any tips
[09:56] <RockyRoad_> Yes I had read that... The potential conflict might still arise then ?
[09:57] <survietamine> hello, on a 11.04 server I've got this error in syslog each time (monthly) logrotate ntp. Seems to be related to a apparmor config. "Feb 21 06:35:11 ctp-linhomes kernel: [12659531.614466] type=1503 audit(1392960911.936:982):  operation="file_perm" pid=20691 parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/ntpd" requested_mask="::w" denied_mask="::w" fsuid=106 ouid=0 name="/var/log/ntp.log.1". What can I do ? Change apparmor or logrotate config ? or both ?
[09:57] <gavino> hey can yoy help me? i wanna install firefox 27 last on xubuntu 11.10 without dalyzation my system? could i?
[10:00] <bodroff> Есть кто не сильно занят?
[10:00] <genii> !ru | bodroff
[10:00] <varun_> rambo3, what kind of interface is this? Ethernet or wireless?
[10:01] <gavino> wireless
[10:01] <RockyRoad_> TJ-, unfortunately, it doesn't work for me: https://gist.github.com/RockyRoad29/9131677
[10:02] <rambo3> varun_: eth
[10:02] <TJ-> RockyRoad_: The error is pretty clear "Your Ubuntu release is not supported anymore."
[10:02] <bodroff> ! ru
[10:02] <TJ-> RockyRoad_: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[10:02] <RockyRoad_> yep, that is why I needed to upgrade .!
[10:03] <varun_> rambo3, please give us the pastebin link to the output of - "sudo lshw -numeric -C network"
[10:03] <RockyRoad_> Thanks again TJ-, great help :)
[10:04] <rambo3> !pastebin
[10:07] <rambo3> varun_:  not paste but written http://paste.ubuntu.com/6970045/
[10:10] <rambo3> varun_:  I think i found similar problem http://www.allquests.com/question/1991758/Intel-82562EZ-e100-and-eepro100-Issues.html
[10:11] <varun_> rambo3, sorry , multitasking here.. . taking a look at the previous link now.. :)
[10:12] <Guest44395> Hi, How do I change the ownership of a new partition?
[10:13] <Guest44395> I just did gksudo
[10:13] <Guest44395> that seemed tp worked
[10:13] <varun_> rambo3, you can redirect the output to a file like this "sudo lshw -numeric -C network > lshw.txt". Then move this file to a system which has internet connection and copy-paste the contents from there.
[10:16] <RockyRoad_> varun_, TJ-, would it be ok if I kept (across release fresh install) a partition for /usr/local/?
[10:17] <TJ-> RockyRoad_: Yes; that's how I do all mine.
[10:17] <varun_> ..and I never did it, so can't suggest.. TJ- , RockyRoad_  :)
[10:17] <RockyRoad_> Ok I'll try to go that way then. I was worried of lib conflicts
[10:18] <TJ-> RockyRoad_: generally, /usr/local/ is in the path before /usr/
[10:20] <armin> hi, is there no init script for NetworkManager anymore? thanks.
[10:20] <MrHanky_> hey all
[10:20] <armin> s/init\ script/upstart\ job/ or whatever if you don't like that phrasing. :)
[10:20] <MrHanky_> I'm looking for some help with ubuntu and I'm all googled out !
[10:21] <MrHanky_> I'm trying to install electrum onto a live usb using apt-offline
[10:21] <MrHanky_> but on both my online ubuntu and my live usb, python-pip can't be found via apt-get
[10:21] <MrHanky_> I'm sure it's as simple as a missing repository... but for the life of me I can't find out what it is
[10:22] <MrHanky_> E: Unable to locate package python-pip
[10:22] <MrHanky_> anyone have any ideas?
[10:22] <TJ-> armin: upstart: /etc/init/network-manager.conf
[10:23] <TJ-> MrHanky_: It's in the Universe pcoket
[10:23] <TJ-> MrHanky_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=saucy&keywords=python-pip
[10:24] <armin> TJ-: so how would one restart that one in a sane way?
[10:24] <mattlb0619> Has anyone used the Yate Loon d12 series of fans?
[10:25] <MrHanky_> ahh
[10:25] <MrHanky_> TJ that is helpful
[10:25] <Guest44395> Can anyone help me.  I would like to join a Fedora channel how do I do that?
[10:25] <MrHanky_> I did add the universe repository to my offline box tho
[10:25] <MrHanky_> I guess I'm not sure what the sequence of events is to trigger an apt-update via apt-offline
[10:25] <MrHanky_> (I thought I knew, but obviously whatever I did is wrong)
[10:26] <MrHanky_> assuming that /media/usb/cold.sig and media/usb/apt-offline are my offline-boxes signatures and package storages respectively, what are the commands I ened to run on the offline / online boxes to get apt-offline updated on the offline one?
[10:31] <Joschii> bbl
[10:31] <Panda^> hello how can i have vhost in my vps ?
[10:31] <Panda^> anyone>
[10:33] <zaitzev> Panda^: reverse dns, look it up :)
[10:35] <Squiggz> Can anyone help me with a plex problem, im on the plex freenode but noone ever response
[10:35] <Squiggz> I went back to scratch in ubuntu
[10:36] <genii> !info plex
[10:36] <genii> Hm.
[10:37] <Squiggz> no hablo? what do you mean it doesnt exsist, its in the ubuntu store
[10:37] <gebbione> hi whats the best way to check linux hardware compatibility? I use a MAC laptop and a ubuntu desktop but i am considering to buy a generic intel laptop and then run something like ubuntu on it
[10:38] <eutheria> i am really starting to hate tabbed browsing, is there anyway to disable tabs in chrome/firefox?
[10:38] <X3NQ> eutheria, what why??
[10:38] <eutheria> i keep trying to alt-tab to my last tab
[10:38] <X3NQ> gebbione, never had a problem with thinkpads
[10:39] <zaitzev> hp elitebooks too
[10:39] <JoeSomebody> when you all did not answer any of my questions yesterday i contacted canonical, no answer yet, is my old buddy ikonia around? can i have a pm?
[10:39] <gebbione> eutheria, in chrome you should be able to say open in new window rather than in new tabs
[10:39] <JoeSomebody> !seen ikonia
[10:39] <eutheria> i need to disable it else i keep opening new tabs
[10:39] <gebbione> X3NQ, are think pads lenovo these days?
[10:40] <X3NQ> gebbione, yep
[10:40] <eutheria> it is like having a second task bar
 Panda^: reverse dns, look it up <--- ahhm is it on etc folder?
[10:40] <X3NQ> eutheria, I have about 30 tabs open, would not want separate windows lol!
[10:40] <genii> JoeSomebody: He'll probably be awake in 3-4 hours
[10:41] <eutheria> i have 4 browsers open each with 30 tabs
[10:41] <eutheria> i am totally screwed
[10:41] <eutheria> if it was one list i might have a chance
[10:41] <JoeSomebody> ok :)
[10:41] <donajev> hi
[10:41] <jones_> hey how to use flex ? anyone has nice tutorials?
[10:41] <X3NQ> eutheria, you can do ctrl + 9 to get to the last tab
[10:42] <jones___> hey how to use flex ? anyone has nice tutorials?
[10:42] <eutheria> X3NQ: do you know of a way to search the tabs for certain text?
[10:42] <jones___> hey how to use flex ? anyone has nice tutorials?
[10:42] <eutheria> that would be handy
[10:43] <MrHanky_> is there a way to install python pip paackages offline?
[10:43] <MrHanky_> similar to how apt-offline works?
[10:43] <MrHanky_> or dpkg?
[10:43] <eutheria> i was trying to track down the history of a number of bugs, as they seemed to be linked, i ended up with several windows open and so many tabs the labels had no text
[10:43] <X3NQ> eutheria, hmm, never tried but don't think so :(
[10:43] <MrHanky_> "sudo pip install ecdsa slowaes" - this is what I need to achieve, but the PC I need to do it on is not net connected
[10:43] <genii> eutheria: As for the hiding/change hotkey https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-tab-bar-with-one-tab/
[10:44] <profesor_> yett
[10:44] <X3NQ> MrHanky_, if you have the package can't you just do 'python ./setup.py install'?
[10:44] <profesor_> tn
[10:44] <profesor_> y
[10:44] <Squiggz> ok i think my problem is permission on my media drive for plex
[10:45] <MrHanky_> how to fetch the package though?
[10:45] <MrHanky_> sorry if it's a stupid quetsion
[10:45] <MrHanky_> probably is
[10:45] <MrHanky_> but... how to fetch a pip package?
[10:45] <profesor_> zeppelin
[10:45] <X3NQ> MrHanky_, if you're offline how are you going to get it!?
[10:45] <Squiggz> last time i screwed up i did gksu nautilis then tried to change the prmission from the properties
[10:45] <MrHanky_> USB stick
[10:45] <Squiggz> i got locked out very shortly after
[10:45] <MrHanky_> I can get it from one PC (this one - online) to another
[10:45] <profesor_> the washing machin is my response
[10:46] <X3NQ> MrHanky_, so do you have the files on the computer you want to install it on?
[10:46] <profesor_> mailto:khildin@ip-213-49-84-127.dsl.scarlet.be
[10:46] <profesor_> jones noioooooooooo
[10:46] <profesor_> thee are always love youuuuuuu
[10:46] <MrHanky_> Umm not exactly I'm trying to install electrum (BTC wallet)
[10:46] <eutheria> genii: thanks that looks so nice without tabs
[10:47] <MrHanky_> and I run python setup.py install on electrum
[10:47] <MrHanky_> and it says it neads ecdsa
[10:47] <profesor_> i am from bosnia
[10:47] <genii> eutheria: Glad to assist
[10:47] <MrHanky_> is python-ecdsa .deb package from apt-get the same thing?
[10:47] <profesor_> electrum sucks my eggs
[10:47] <DJones> profesor_: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? This channel is only for support issues, not general chat
[10:47] <MrHanky_> <---- linux n00b :)
[10:47] <X3NQ> MrHanky_, you need the files on your computer to install them, you can't magically get them without internet
[10:48] <MrHanky_> Yep aware of that
[10:48] <profesor_> how  to use internet?
[10:48] <Squiggz> I have an ubuntu question Get plex to recognize my drive!!
[10:48] <MrHanky_> so I'm wondeirng if there's a way or place to manually retrieve the files from, via my browser or something
[10:48] <MrHanky_> for a "pip" package
[10:48] <X3NQ> MrHanky_, what are you trying to install?
[10:48] <MrHanky_> so for apt-get I can find the .deb package from the ubuntu site
[10:48] <profesor_> why ubuntu's name is ubuntu?
[10:48] <MrHanky_> but for a pip package.
[10:49] <Squiggz> becuase it was made in kenya
[10:49] <MrHanky_> Electrum
[10:49] <Squiggz> get outta here profesor dope
[10:49] <profesor_> thanks i luv you
[10:49] <X3NQ> MrHanky_, does your machine running Ubuntu have internet connectivity? Can you ping google.com?
[10:50] <profesor_> nooo squiggz be my friend please
[10:50] <MrHanky_> I have two PCs running ubuntu live cd...
[10:50] <Squiggz> dude i cant i actually have an issue
[10:50] <X3NQ> profesor_, what you on?
[10:50] <MrHanky_> 1 with internet connectivity (the one I'm talking to you on)
[10:50] <MrHanky_> and the other one is not internet connected (this is intentional)
[10:51] <MrHanky_> the one withOUT internet connectivity is the one I need to install the python ecdsa package on
[10:51] <profesor_> i'm only looking for a friend
[10:51] <MrHanky_> if it had internet, that would be as simple as typing "pip install ecdsa"
[10:51] <X3NQ> MrHanky_, wait, livecd? I'm not too familiar with bitcoin nowadays but won't you need to download the entire block chain?
[10:51] <MrHanky_> Nah electrum is a lightweight client
[10:51] <X3NQ> profesor_, go somewhere else.
[10:51] <MrHanky_> It uses a network of trusted peers
[10:52] <MrHanky_> basically people can run electrum server (containing full blockchain)
[10:52] <MrHanky_> or just the lcient
[10:52] <Squiggz> then go to the glcr profesor, becuase people actually have questions here
[10:53] <MrHanky_> basically all I want to know is, how can I accomplish "pip install ecdsa" without actually connecting it to the internet - where can I find the package file and download it, save to usb, and what ocmmand do  I need to run once I've moved the usb stick to the other PC...
[10:53] <profesor_> y love everyone
[10:53] <X3NQ> MrHanky_, ah I see. Can't you connect it to the internet temporary to install the required packages? If not you will have to download them manually then move them onto you machine (usb stick, etc..) then install them with their setup instructions, easy.
[10:54] <Squiggz> tj-: you here?
[10:54] <profesor_> viva la guardia civil!
[10:54] <MrHanky_> The idea is 'dark storage' - I lost some BTC after my synology (debian based) NAS was comrpomised and my wallet.dat got stolen.
[10:54] <MrHanky_> I'm now creating an offline wallet that will never see the internet. Period. Not even for 5 minutes.
[10:54] <MrHanky_> I realise the risk of exposure is very low, but I would prefer zero risk
[10:55] <MrHanky_> so I would prefer to never bring this PC online
[10:55] <X3NQ> MrHanky_, but it will need to be connected in some way to actually move coins in / out?
[10:55] <profesor_> i need support
[10:55] <profesor_> for find a friendo
[10:55] <profesor_> pleaseee!
[10:55] <llutz> !ot | profesor_
[10:55] <MrHanky_> To receive - no. To send - yes .... electrum lets you create an unsigned transaction (save to a .txt file) on an internet connected pc, then move it to the offline PC - you sign it there, and bring it back to the internet connected PC to be sent to the network
[10:56] <MrHanky_> It's very clever :) which is why I want to use it
[10:56] <Serano> MrHanky_ use TrueCrypt with no swap. Then everything stays encryted in the memory
[10:56] <MrHanky_> @Serano was planning on using truecrypt as a container for the private key anyway
[10:57] <Serano> well all your layers of protection fail when you pay something
[10:57] <Serano> unless it's only a receiving account
[10:57] <MrHanky_> Hmm... how so?
[10:58] <Serano> because when you would use your wallet to pay you would still have to expose it to an internet connection
[10:58] <Serano> hence then chance the data gets stolen
[10:58] <MrHanky_> nope - electrum lets you sign offline
[10:58] <Serano> To receive - no. To send - yes
[10:58] <MrHanky_> you have a 'view only' wallet on your internet connected pc
[10:58] <MrHanky_> it can "see" your wallet but can't send (it doesn't have your private key)
[10:59] <crond> Anyone have any idea why my Nexus 5 would show up in lsusb as a Nexus 4? I can't seem to mount it via mtp
[10:59] <MrHanky_> it can create transactions (unsigned) that are worthless without the signature of your private key - stored securely on your offline pc
[10:59] <MrHanky_> in this case, an offline live-usb stick
[10:59] <MrHanky_> which will be booted on my laptop with no ethernet cable connected, and wifi not configured
[10:59] <MrHanky_> so i import the unsigned transaction, sign it with my private key (retrieved from my truecrypt volume)
[11:00] <MrHanky_> then bring the signed transcation back to my internet connected PC
[11:00] <Serano> if the possibility exists than you could do it
[11:00] <MrHanky_> if you're interested, check it out https://electrum.org/
[11:00] <MrHanky_> If this works for me, I'll never use bitcoin-qt again :)
[11:01] <X3NQ> Got my wallet somewhere on a little encrypted usb stick. Got about 40 bitcoins on there
[11:01] <MrHanky_> Nice.
[11:01] <Serano> the system looks nice. I just use a usb-live with truecrypt
[11:02] <profesor_2> Djones you are so bad person...
[11:02] <X3NQ> MrHanky_, back in the day when you could ask for free bitcoins and a friend gave me 10 to get started
[11:02] <profesor_2> q9mn hbdc s sjn
[11:02] <MrHanky_> nice
[11:03] <profesor_2> Ali_a
[11:03] <profesor_2> who wanna be my frieeeend
[11:05] <MrHanky_> OK so it seems I worked it out
[11:05] <MrHanky_> if I fetch the tar.gz from pypi.python.org/simple/ blah blah... then just python setup.py install
[11:05] <lng> Hi! After system upgrade, I couldn't login. Xorg.0.log has an errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6970295/
[11:06] <MrHanky_> VOILA "Finished processing dependencies for Electrum==1.9.7"
[11:08] <diecastarts> hey guys, have a odd problem. I had a little crash of a game. so i shut down and when i booted up again i cannot login to lubuntu desktop. just goes black screen for a second then goes right back to the login screen again. over and over. but i logged into openbox mode no problem.
[11:09] <diecastarts> tried to killall xsessions but that didn;t seem to work.
[11:10] <Squiggz> stil lhere for the plex issue haha if anyone can help
[11:11] <X3NQ> MrHanky_, nice one! :)
[11:14] <Squiggz> no?
[11:14] <lng> could anybody help?
[11:15] <diecastarts> lng what was the problem?
[11:15] <hazlan> .
[11:16] <lng> Hi! After Ubuntu system upgrade, I couldn't login. Xorg.0.log has an errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6970295/
[11:16] <diecastarts> at times you really need wait a long time to get help. more so around this time of day
[11:16] <lng> diecastarts: After Ubuntu system upgrade, I couldn't login. Xorg.0.log has an errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6970295/
[11:16] <Squiggz> ahh gotcha
[11:16] <lng> when it is booting, I can see 'The systemt is running in low-graphics mode...', then I hit Ok button and it displays another popup where different options available
[11:16] <Squiggz> i just wish i coudl get someone in the plex irc
[11:16] <Squiggz> you never can
[11:16] <bodroff> кто-нибудь может мне помочь? )
[11:16] <lng> optiions like run in low-graphics mode and so on, but on this stage I could not click Ok anymore
[11:16] <lng> diecastarts: ^
[11:17] <herpderphurr> lng: Are you able to log in using Ctrl-Alt-F1, F2, F3.... ?
[11:18] <lng> herpderphurr: on which stage should I use these keys?
[11:19] <diecastarts> lng not sure but it seem it trying to use the wrong monitor.. but not sure... some computers use 1 Mine uses 0 .. sorry i am a newbie
[11:19] <genii> bodroff: Никто в этой области не может помочь. Пожалуйста, обратитесь за помощью в #ubuntu-ru области.   /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:20] <diecastarts> anytime that bring you to terminal.. but when you need to come back use ctrl-alt-f6 or f7
[11:20] <Squiggz> noone is russian here go back to the Olympics fool
[11:21] <lng> diecastarts: I use cli using ctrl-alt-F1
[11:21] <herpderphurr> lng: Not sure. Try switching to them when you get the dialogue boxes. What they should do is they should present a terminal for you (so you can still fix problems).
[11:21] <genii> Squiggz: Please do not make attacks on other users.
[11:21] <lng> herpderphurr: I mean I can use terminal
[11:22] <diecastarts> kk
[11:22] <herpderphurr> lng: I'm not too familiar with the AMD drivers, but fglrx is the proprietary driver right? Can  you try switching to the open-source one to troubleshoot problems?
[11:23] <diecastarts> but has anyone ever had a problem loggin into a desktop envorment? like it goes right back to login screen?
[11:24] <diecastarts> actually just had a small idea. brb
[11:25] <Squiggz> herderphurr: y=do you use plex?
[11:25] <herpderphurr> Squiggz: Nope.
[11:25] <Squiggz> you've help me before so im just wondering
[11:25] <Squiggz> dang ok thanks
[11:26] <herpderphurr> soz
[11:33] <rannonga> hi lol
[11:33] <DJones> bothan: Please just type in the channel and don't use notice commands
[11:34] <rannonga> bothan: everything else is right?
[11:34] <diecastarts> odd still have the problem.. but if i sign into guest account it opens in lubuntu mode.
[11:35] <Serano> can someone please kickban bothan
[11:35] <Serano> channel notice spam
[11:35] <rannonga> yeah stop that
[11:35] <DJones> bothan: Stop using notice command, just type in the channel
[11:35] <Serano> you are using the wrong commands to chat in this channel
[11:36] <Serano> then please, do us a favor and use a webclient
[11:36] <rannonga> what irc are you using?
[11:36] <Isolol> might have a badly configured client
[11:36] <Isolol> I was wondering where the beeping was coming from though lol
[11:36] <cpn> what irc client are yo using?
[11:36] <cpn> haha ya
[11:37] <rannonga> sorry yeah
[11:37] <diecastarts> bothan if you are not using it xchat is one of best irc's clinets
[11:37] <rannonga> only i hate about it is devel stopped in 2010
[11:37] <rannonga> thing
[11:37] <UltimateNate> What about Hexchat?
[11:37] <Isolol> http://webchat.freenode.net
[11:37] <cpn> yeah xchat is approachable , otherwise weechat :P
[11:37] <Serano> weechat is magnificent
[11:37] <Serano> <3
[11:37] <rannonga> irssi ftw
[11:38] <Serano> but still got love for irssi
[11:38] <Isolol> irssi <3
[11:38] <UltimateNate> Hexchat & mIRC FTW
[11:38] <cpn> yeah same
[11:38] <Isolol> mIRC lol....
[11:38] <Eagleman> paint is so good guys
[11:38] <Serano> you dare to spell that 4 letter word
[11:38] <cpn> and well good old BitchX :P
[11:38] <UltimateNate> mIRC is the best
[11:38] <rannonga> mIRC through wine nice
[11:38] <UltimateNate> Easy Bot Scripting
[11:38] <UltimateNate> How you know i use Wine?
[11:38] <Serano> weechat and python
[11:38] <diecastarts> yeah but mIRC you have to pay for now right?
[11:38] <Isolol> Use xchat and write those irc bots in python lol
[11:38] <UltimateNate> No
[11:38] <diecastarts> or it just a trial
[11:39] <UltimateNate> diecastarts: It'll just annoy you to buy it
[11:39] <rannonga> 30 day i think
[11:39] <UltimateNate> So you just ignore it
[11:39] <Serano> diecastarts mirc was always shareware
[11:39] <diecastarts> kk
[11:39] <UltimateNate> OMG you spilled the Wine!
[11:39] <Serano> what is it 20 euros after 30 days
[11:39] <diecastarts> but anyway
[11:39] <UltimateNate> lol jk
[11:39] <rannonga> smuxi is nice
[11:40] <UltimateNate> mIRC has easy and useful bot scriping features
[11:40] <diecastarts> I really need some help . I cannot login to my normal desktop under my normal username
[11:40] <diecastarts> it just goes black for a second and then goes back to the login screen
[11:40] <UltimateNate> I run like 7 bots on mIRC
[11:40] <UltimateNate> 7 mIRCs = Many different scripts
[11:40] <diecastarts> but i can open in openbox mode. or use a guest account
[11:41] <rannonga> diecastarts: what happens it just doesn't log in?
[11:42] <diecastarts> yeah it pops right back to the login screen
[11:42] <diecastarts> useing lubuntu
[11:42] <diecastarts> but if i use gues account that works
[11:43] <diecastarts> or my normal username works if i use openbox mode
[11:43] <daftykins> diecastarts: rename your lxde configuration folders, possibly stored in ~/.config/ to slightly different names to reset the DE - that should then let you log in
[11:43] <diecastarts> or openbox desktop i should say i guess
[11:45] <diecastarts> daftykins, k looking for it now
[11:45] <llutz> diecastarts: "ls -la ~/.Xauthority"  says what?
[11:47] <diecastarts> llutz, -rw------- 1 diecastarts diecastarts 56 Feb 21 07:32 /home/diecastarts/.Xauthority
[11:48] <llutz> diecastarts: "df -h /tmp"
[11:49] <llutz> diecastarts: "df -h ~"
[11:49] <diecastarts> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[11:49] <diecastarts> /dev/sda7       102G   66G   31G  68% /
[11:49] <diecastarts> none            4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[11:49] <diecastarts> udev            1.9G  4.0K  1.9G   1% /dev
[11:49] <diecastarts> tmpfs           375M  1.2M  374M   1% /run
[11:49] <diecastarts> none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[11:49] <diecastarts> none            1.9G   72K  1.9G   1% /run/shm
[11:49] <diecastarts> none            100M   12K  100M   1% /run/user
[11:49] <jatt> !flood
[11:49] <rannonga> pastebin
[11:50] <diecastarts> yeah i didn;t that many would be a problem sorry
[11:50] <diecastarts> didn;t think**
[11:50] <Eagleman> JUST SPAM IT ALL
[11:51] <diecastarts> llutz, /dev/sda7       102G   66G   31G  68% /
[11:53] <rannonga> diecasts try changing the permission on .Xauthority
[11:53] <llutz> why, they are correct
[11:54] <diecastarts> btw there is no LXDE folder in the .config. but there is an openbox
[11:55] <black_angel> hey, i've install the latest nvidia driver, and from dmesg, it's directly loaded, but now the system is also using another display driver 'i915', how can i active the nvidia driver?
[11:55] <daftykins> diecastarts: it's not called that, i just googled for you (lol) - "lxpanel" is apparently the folder beneath .config
[11:57] <return0> Are there any sub-$100 arm crapbooks which can run Ubuntu? Tons with 512MB RAM and PCie SSD
[11:57] <diecastarts> yeah have that. I also see in there that width and height is set to 100 x 24
[11:58] <diecastarts> I had a game crash and rebooted when this started .. that maybe it?
[11:58] <daftykins> diecastarts: for terminals probably, nothing to do with resolution
[11:58] <diecastarts> oh ok
[11:58] <daftykins> diecastarts: mv ~/.config/lxpanel ~/.config/lxpanel-old
[11:59] <diecastarts> but should i rename that one?
[11:59] <diecastarts> kk
[11:59] <daftykins> you are a funny one.
[11:59] <jatt> return0: olpc's (they have arm and run ubuntu) are available for $40 in ebay
[11:59] <webfox> Hey guys, how do I access the hardware verification scan from Ubuntu boot disk?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> !arm|return0,
[12:01] <diecastarts> daftykins, k so do a full reboot now or just logout?
[12:02] <daftykins> logout and try it
[12:02] <diecastarts> k
[12:02] <diecastarts> brb
[12:05] <diecastarts> no good.. even did a shut down to be sure
[12:06] <daftykins> ah well, someone else will need to help. be sure to tell them the above folder rename i suggested
[12:06] <diecastarts> its tries to .. it pops up the report crash windows for a second and then goes back to the login screen still
[12:06] <diecastarts> but the crash report is normal
[12:07] <diecastarts> yeah odd it made a new lxpanel folder but its empty
[12:07] <diecastarts> I'l delete and rename the old one back but oddness
[12:09] <diecastarts> cound it be the obconf ??
[12:11] <diecastarts> oops nm
[12:13] <diecastarts> ohh i think i know whats happening LXRandR file has this and i think it wrong
[12:13] <diecastarts> Exec=xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024 --output LVDS1 --off
[12:14] <glambert> hi, i've got an ubuntu 12.04 VM running that keeps rebooting itself but can't see anything obvious in syslog, kern.log etc.  any idea where else to look for problem?
[12:14] <diecastarts> or maybe not because it goes to the login.
[12:16] <Walex> glambert: perhaps it is being rebooted by its host; or perhaps its kernel has a bug in a virtual environment
[12:17] <glambert> Walex, I have many other Ubuntu 12.04 instances all cloned from the same base etc. running and they're OK so I doubt it's the latter.  Not saying it isn't impossible, but I doubt it
[12:17] <glambert> plus it's only been happening the last few days
[12:17] <glambert> re: the host, I think that's the likely scenario
[12:17] <inhortte> Hi... Ubuntu 13.10 / 64bit on a System76 laptop. I purged pulseaudio and use alsa directly for all my sound (I do lots of music stuff), but now Chrome & Firefox will not play audio. Any ideas?
[12:18] <Walex> glambert: reboot happens in two cases: you ask for it, the kernel crashes and reboots
[12:18] <glambert> I can see lots of @@@@@@ etc. in the kern.log and syslog right before the boot up logging
[12:18] <Walex> glambert: bad news...
[12:18] <glambert> Walex, ?
[12:18] <Walex> glambert: so "can't see  anything obvious in syslog, kern.log etc
[12:18] <Walex> glambert: so "can't see  anything obvious in syslog, kern.log etc" was not quite right...
[12:19] <glambert> Walex, what does it mean?
[12:19] <Walex> glambert: that "something" crashed really badly related to IO.
[12:20] <OerHeks> glambert, could be bad disk
[12:21] <glambert> Walex, OerHeks thanks
[12:24] <Squiggz> ok fellas looking for some help, went to the plex IRC (got a JACK***) so im looking for help here before i go back to windows
[12:24] <Squiggz> its help with ubuntu/plex
[12:24] <Squiggz> having a hell of a time with it
[12:26] <CullenDM> Hello, is anyone currently on?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> !ask|CullenDM,
[12:27] <CullenDM> >.>
[12:27] <CullenDM> I wasn't asking to ask.
[12:27] <Squiggz> ok plex wont find my movies files can anyone help
[12:27] <CullenDM> I was just seeing if anyone actually paying attention.
[12:28] <CullenDM> Anyway, I just upgraded my install and update manager said that the upgrade was aborted and unfinished.
[12:30] <CullenDM> So, it appears that I am stuck halfway between two versions, and I have looked around a good bit, but haven't found any advice on how to remedy the situation other than just wiping everything and starting fresh.
[12:30] <trijntje> have you tried running update manager again?
[12:30] <SirLagz> CullenDM: have you tried manually updated the sources list and doing a full apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:30] <CullenDM> Yes, it says that I am on the latest version.
[12:30] <SirLagz> what's in your sources.list file at the moment ?
[12:31] <CullenDM> And when I run apt-get update it says that it failed to retrieve.
[12:31] <SirLagz> well that's not right.
[12:31] <trijntje> CullenDM: failed to retreive what?
[12:31] <CullenDM> Where is sources.list?
[12:32] <SirLagz> CullenDM: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:32] <CullenDM> Updates.
[12:32] <CullenDM> SirLagz: I should have guessed.
[12:32] <SirLagz> CullenDM: lol
[12:33] <CullenDM> I have two sources.list.
[12:33] <trijntje> CullenDM: not updates, the exact url its failing to fetch. It could be a problem with your connection, or with your local mirror
[12:33] <CullenDM> One is sources.list and it contains raring.
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !raring
[12:33] <cfhowlett> note: end of life
[12:35] <CullenDM> Never mind, I was only looking at the first line.
[12:35] <trijntje> CullenDM: can you type 'update-manager -d' in a terminal and see what happens?
[12:35] <CullenDM> The original install media was Raring.
[12:35] <CullenDM> I was on 13.10, all of my sources have no changed to trusty.
[12:35] <cfhowlett> CullenDM, are you trying to upgrade from raring?
[12:36] <CullenDM> No, 13.10 to 10.04.
[12:36] <CullenDM> 14*
[12:36] <lng_> Hi! How to fix it? The following packages have unmet dependencies: fglrx-amdcccle-experimental-13 : Depends: fglrx-experimental-13 but it is not installed; E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[12:36] <cfhowlett> CullenDM, OK got it - wait, trusty?  still in beta.  support in #ubuntu+1
[12:36] <CullenDM> thanks.
[12:38] <trijntje> lng_: what did you do to get that error?
[12:38] <CullenDM> I feel like there is no one ins that room.
[12:38] <trijntje> did you add any ppa or repository to sources.lst?
[12:39] <lng_> trijntje: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=8k count=1
[12:39] <lng_> trijntje: to switch the driver
[12:40] <leeyaa> can anyone cat his rc.local? should it have exit 0 at the end Oo ?
[12:40] <llutz> leeyaa: it should/must have, yes
[12:40] <trijntje> lng_: you broke your system, who gave you those instructions?
[12:41] <trijntje> in case anybody is reading the logs, don't run the dd command lng_ posted above, it will trash your system
[12:42] <cfhowlett> trijntje, i'm not familiar with that one.  similar to rm -rf?  if so, perhaps we should get a factoid set up
[12:43] <llutz> cfhowlett: using sudo it would overwrite MBR/partition-table
[12:43] <trijntje> cfhowlett: yeah, it writes a bunch of zeros to the first part of the disk, most likely trashing the partition table
[12:43] <cfhowlett> llutz, yow.  pretty malicious.
[12:44] <trijntje> !dd
[12:47] <llutz> we should tell his dad - no tv today...
[12:52] <geirha> well, assuming he ran it as root. As a regular user he'd likely just get a permission denied message
[12:52] <trijntje> does anyone know how to add a new factoid to ubottu?
[12:53] <negev> hi, is there any semi-decent keyboard binding thing for linux?  for example i'd like to bind Alt-[ in my terminal to switch to the next instance of terminal.  can't find anything that would allow me to do this.
[12:53] <trijntje> yeah, but i'd guess most people would add sudo to a command that doesnt work ;)
[12:53] <tsimpson> trijntje: /msg ubottu factoid-name is factoid goes here
[12:53] <Squiggz> has anyoine been able to connect an hdd to plex????
[12:53] <trijntje> negev: the default for that in untiy is alt + `
[12:54] <trijntje> tsimpson: cool, thanks!
[12:56] <d_0o0_p> For any moment I need to use newest GNOME 3.10, but did it have any compatibility issues in Saucy?
[12:59] <leeyaa> guys how to get killall command? i have killall5 ?
[12:59] <leeyaa> which is not the same
[13:00] <cfhowlett> leeyaa, open a terminal and type in man killall
[13:00] <leeyaa> chalcedny: i dont have killall at all
[13:00] <leeyaa> using ubuntu precise server
[13:01] <llutz> leeyaa: sudo apt-get install psmisc
[13:02] <leeyaa> thanks llutz
[13:04] <negev> trijntje: thanks, is it configurable at all?
[13:05] <Guest26508> jjajjajajajajja
[13:07] <trijntje> negev: yes, via compizconfig-settings-manager, you'll have to install it first
[13:07] <negev> trijntje: thanks :)
[13:09] <negev> trijntje: you don't happen to know where specifically do you?  lots of stuff in this
[13:10] <trijntje> negev: unity -> switcher
[13:11] <leeyaa> TJ-: i sorted my problem by creating a init.d script
[13:11] <negev> trijntje: i don't have a unity section
[13:11] <leeyaa> and now i use it to start, restart and stop vpn
[13:11] <leeyaa> i just need to add it as a service ;p
[13:11] <trijntje> its called Ubuntu unity plugin
[13:13] <negev> got it thanks :)
[13:15] <negev> trijntje: is it possible to make it just snap to the next window rather than displaying the switcher modal?
[13:16] <trijntje> negev: I don't think so
[13:16] <OerHeks> negev sure, hold WIN key to see all key combo's
[13:17] <OerHeks> ctrl alt left/right/up/down
[13:17] <negev> that's workspaces not windows of an application
[13:21] <houssein> njnj
[13:24] <houssein> hay
[13:25] <houssein> how are you
[13:25] <cfhowlett> houssein, greetings
[13:25] <houssein> you to
[13:27] <JoeSomebody> is anyone able to tell me how to customize the unity desktop? is this some new idea, do not let user customize?
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !unity
[13:28] <trijntje> JoeSomebody: compizconfig-settings-manager
[13:29] <ruien> Hello. I created a custom ubuntu repository named "trusty-sanseb" with the package "fdupes", so when I "apt-get update", it finds this same package (same version) in both "trusty" and "trusty-sanseb". Apt provides an option (-t) to install from a particular target, so I think I should be able to install the one from mine using "apt-get install -t trusty-sanseb fdupes", but it still installs the one from the official repos ("trusty"). Anyone know why? /etc/apt/
[13:29] <JoeSomebody> ok thanks, i just want desktops icons , then maybe i learn to like it more, but if not flexible at all, nahhh it cant be as bad as it seems, cant be :)
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !trusty|ruien, support in the other channel
[13:30] <JoeSomebody> how about keyboard shortcuts for apps ?
[13:30] <JoeSomebody> still want a desktop though
[13:30] <ruien> cfhowlett: i don't think this is related to trusty at all, this is 100% apt. It just happens that i'm using the name "trusty" in the repo distribution label.
[13:30] <hitsujiTMO> JoeSomebody: unity-tweak-tool
[13:31] <streulma> Hello Ubuntu Users, I have a Core 2 Duo 2.8ghz should I place 128gb ssd or hold the 750gb 7200rpm drive?
[13:31] <JoeSomebody> i looked in tweak tool , could not find what was expected , musta been hidden good
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> ruien: We neither support trusty, nor non repo apps here. but to point you in the right direction lookup apt-pinning
[13:32] <JoeSomebody> i probably had ANOTHER bad google result page, but how are we to know what we can trust if no one answers here?
[13:32] <hitsujiTMO> ruien: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences
[13:33] <trijntje> JoeSomebody: don't be so negative all the time if you need help. You can switch between applications using windows + 1-0
[13:33] <hitsujiTMO> JoeSomebody: sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool                        normally every software we mention is in the repo unless otherwise specified
[13:33] <ruien> hitsujiTMO: thanks, I'll read this. Note that -t specifically is meant to be used when not using apt-pinning-- from the manpage: "-t : Specifically pinned packages are not affected by the value of this option.", so I'm not sure that pinning is the answer.
[13:34] <houssein> ggggg
[13:35] <therealmat> hi
[13:35] <hitsujiTMO> ruien: i've only ever seen/used -t with apt-pinning       its used to ignore the apt-pin preferences
[13:36] <ruien> hitsujiTMO: ah, interesting. That's a helpful tidbit then, thanks.
[13:37] <cfhowlett> therealmat, greetings
[13:37] <faraway> when logging into my server (12.04.4) with ssh i get the message "/dev/sda2 will be checked for errors at next reboot"  while rebooting i can see that the check is done, but the message remains.
[13:38] <hitsujiTMO> faraway: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[13:38] <Rory> faraway: Type this command very carefully: sudo rm /var/lib/update-notifier/fsck-at-reboot
[13:38] <Rory> faraway: The problem is caused by an issue with timezones, where the date in that file is set in the future
[13:38] <jbooms> if ubuntu stuck wit gnome people eventually would stop whining gnome3 and it still be #1, loving ubuntu gnome
[13:39] <Rory> faraway: It's safe to delete it, just type that command carefully so you don't delete anything else by mistake
[13:39] <Rory> jbooms: Glad you found a system that works for you
[13:40] <jbooms> lol nice politically correct response :P
[13:40] <faraway> hitsujiTMO: well i'll look into dmesg  but calling a command that will post something to pastebin without that i read it? :D
[13:41] <Rory> faraway: Try removing that one file first, I can pretty much guarentee it'll fix it
[13:42] <hitsujiTMO> faraway: its non sensitive info that we frequently ask for to determine the cause of issues. specifically here i was looking for any hardware issue that may have been the cause of a filesystem returning to a dirty state. but rory's fix is prob more likely
[13:43] <marianne> good morning - I'm running 64 bit ubuntu 12.04 and would like to know if it's possible to run a bluray player through my computer. I have a bluray drive, but a lot of the movies don't play because of BD+ encryption... just looking for a work around at this point... suggestions?
[13:43] <Rory> faraway: In future, you can use a command like "dmesg > output.txt", then inspect output.txt, and then "pastebinti output.txt" if you're happy
[13:43] <faraway> Rory: i'll do so after i did some reading about it. but thx for the info
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !blueray|marianne,
[13:47] <jbooms> only problem having gnome3 that find in all distros and havent found answer... login screen keeps coming up on my hdtv, sometimes on my regular monitor, mostly often my hdtv, weird typing in pass without seeing it
[13:47] <marianne> ubuttu: I can play DVDs, but not certain blurays... yes, I' know you're a bot
[13:48] <rafael> hola
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !es|Guest98923,
[13:51] <Squiggz> need help finding a drive
[13:51] <Squiggz> i had an external hd just partitioned it to nfst and its gone
[13:51] <jbooms> where it go?
[13:52] <jbooms> try reboot maybe
[13:52] <hitsujiTMO> Squiggz: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[13:52] <jbooms> plug/unplug
[13:52] <Squiggz> that easy?
[13:53] <therealmat> when i try to boot the desktop installation dvd all I see is a colored background and two icons at the bottom of the screen with an equals sign (=) between them. Nothing happens...
[13:53] <therealmat> one time i hit some key at the grub boot menu and it actually booted to the screen where i can decide to test or install ubuntu. then X crashed with some nouveau error. i have a gtx580 from nvidia
[13:53] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | therealmat
[13:53] <jbooms> press enter when u see it, means u dont got efi bios
[13:54] <therealmat> hitsujiTMO, well, since i can't see the grub menu that won't work
[13:54] <therealmat> can i switch from the server version to the desktop version? or is there some "real" difference? All I need is the gnome desktop, LAMP, thunderbird, firefox and xchat
[13:55] <jbooms> no when u see that weird symbol, press enter
[13:55] <therealmat> that way i could set up the system, install the nvidia drivers and blacklist that damned nouveau driver
[13:56] <jbooms> im using ubuntu gnome, luv it, think it may b bit slower then fedora just a guess, but unlike fedora it works most time
[13:56] <hitsujiTMO> therealmat: if you wanted to take that route then you can just install the ubuntu-gnome-desktop package
[13:58]  * therealmat is on the phone
[13:58] <jbooms> wish gnome ditch the whole evolution n empathy integration crapola integrated solution never end up being the best or even easy
[13:58] <therealmat> hitsujiTMO, well, i've installed numerous ubuntu server setups, that works fine
[14:00] <jbooms> can i just remove gnome-extras or will my computer explode?
[14:01] <therealmat> ok, so I'll go for the server version. hope to talk to you folks in an hour. :)
[14:01] <therealmat> bye
[14:04] <jbooms> if i ask how to make it so i dont see paid software in ubuntu software center, will i get banned?
[14:05] <OerHeks> jbooms, it is not possible to avoid paid software in software center, that is why i use synaptic (it does not show paid apps)
[14:05] <OerHeks> software center is closed source
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> jbooms: modify the source - or use something else
[14:05] <tarzeau> you can avoid software center
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> oooh its closed? my bad
[14:05] <OerHeks> AFAIK it is, hitsujiTMO
[14:06] <hitsujiTMO> OerHeks: makes sense i guess
[14:08] <ruien> hitsujiTMO: I figured it out, thanks. from manpage apt_preferences(5), "apt-get downloads the instance listed earliest in the sources.list(5) file. The APT preferences do not affect the choice of instance, only the choice of version." -- i assumed the preferences affected both.
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | ruien
[14:11] <dougl> !yay | dougl
[14:11] <vfsm> hello world, my problem that destroy my mind is this : suspend/resume failure, i have toshiba
[14:12] <phil42> friday is splurge on lunch day, where should i go?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> phil42, you should go to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel ...
[14:13] <phil42> will i get good suggestions there?
[14:14] <OerHeks> phil42, yes no yes no  .. maybe
[14:15] <phil42> i will try it in a new tab
[14:31] <ibDoug> Hello.  everyone.  I have a problem with the network manager and some other applications.  The windows extend below the usable screen on my netbook so I cannot click the 'Apply' button.  Any help would be appreciated.
[14:32] <OerHeks> ibDoug, oke, ALT + left mouse grabs the window to move it
[14:32] <Defai> alt+mouse press and move window?
[14:33] <OerHeks> ibDoug, hold WIN key for more short keys
[14:33] <ibDoug> Thanks will try it.
[14:33] <Defai> Or, alt+space and select move, if you prefer keyboard
[14:34] <arooni-mobile> hey folks;  my /etc/resolv.conf has google dns resolution; i want to change to open dns.  so i edited /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf to say prepend domain-name-servers #opendnsservers.  yet my resolv.conf keeps reverting to google dns.  why?  how can i fix?
[14:34] <LordDeath> with the upcoming locally integrated menus in 14.04 will there be a way to disable the menubar at the top?
[14:35] <LordDeath> because it would waste space now that there is nothing to show there
[14:35]  * jelly would rather it were visible the whole time
[14:35] <JoeSomebody> ubuntu called, said $165 x 5 just to evaluate the software, BYE BYE GUYS
[14:35] <JoeSomebody> the very first thing a person should be able to do in linux is to make it look bearable, and customize desktop icons, if it is this too hard, ubuntu is not ready , like win 8, not good on desktops, perhaps phones will like it
[14:36] <OerHeks> LordDeath, top panel menu is called global menu, there is a howto somewere to disable it and move the menu back to the window
[14:36] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/369226/remove-global-menu-13-10
[14:37] <LordDeath> OerHeks: you know this upcoming feature? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teAFgtHWDso
[14:37] <ibDoug> Thanks again.  Works a treat.
[14:37] <yacc_> JoeSomebody: ?
[14:37] <JoeSomebody> EVEN WINDOWS HAS EVALS
[14:38] <ibDoug> Anyone find a Twitter client that works without a browser?
[14:38] <JoeSomebody> no more trying ubuntu for me , or my associates
[14:38] <cfhowlett> JoeSomebody, calm down.  there
[14:38] <cfhowlett> JoeSomebody, OK.  so - please cease venting and go exercise your choices
[14:38] <yacc_> JoeSomebody: evaluate what software?
[14:38] <JoeSomebody> nope, im done, just wanted you to know why, and banning me  is ok too
[14:39] <LordDeath> the new option should behave like this if the user enables the integrated menus http://imgur.com/a/C0M1F
[14:39] <OerHeks> LordDeath, nope, unity 7 wil be in 14.04
[14:39] <Defai> funny flame :) ubuntu is the best...
[14:39] <JoeSomebody> cant buy support? canonical = insane
[14:39] <OerHeks> JoeSomebody, stop it please
[14:39] <JoeSomebody> i must buy 45 machines minimum?
[14:39] <JoeSomebody> i must buy 5 machines minimum?
[14:39] <JoeSomebody> stop what?
[14:39] <sakter12> how do i install my webcam for ubuntu?  cheese works and i can see a clear picture from my webcam with cheese but it doesn't work in google chrome
[14:39] <JoeSomebody> tryint to get support?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !fud|JoeSomebody
[14:40] <cfhowlett> JoeSomebody, no, you're venting.  stop.
[14:41] <JoeSomebody> i am burning a bridge, its ok, you werent gonna help me a anyway i know that
[14:41] <BlitzHere> Does anyone know how to configure xdg-open to open the right application when I click on magnet/irc/steam links in chrome?
[14:41] <JoeSomebody> ikonia told me to go back to windows
[14:41] <cfhowlett> JoeSomebody, so - byebye
[14:41] <JoeSomebody> never, back to suse,
[14:41] <BlitzHere> I've tried a bunch of things and it done't work
[14:42] <Defai> Joe, what happened? Ubuntu is best and free
[14:42] <BlitzHere> Keeps opening a new browser window
[14:42] <cfhowlett> Defai, do not feed.
[14:42] <Defai> I'm sorry
[14:42] <JoeSomebody> good luck , i realize most of you are innocent of irc prejudices, keep helping others if you want to
[14:42] <BlitzHere> Computer:~$ xdg-open steam://run/550
[14:42] <yacc_> JoeSomebody: Well, try to buy support for any software as tiny outfit, ...
[14:42] <BlitzHere> Created new window in existing browser session.Created new window in existing browser session.
[14:43] <JoeSomebody> you hate me here due to an op battle years ago
[14:43] <JoeSomebody> i know that
[14:43] <JoeSomebody> figured you may forgive by now, guess not
[14:43] <JoeSomebody> bye now children
[14:43] <kemjang> สวัสดีครับ
[14:43] <yacc_> JoeSomebody: if you think that any corporate entity really cares about tiny users, ...
[14:43] <cfhowlett> !th|kemjang,
[14:44] <kemjang> yes
[14:48] <dan_> test
[14:48] <dan_> test
[14:48] <Rory> dan_: boo
[14:49] <Defai> :)
[14:49] <Defai> test accepted :)
[14:49] <Guest77522> excellent :)
[14:49] <Defai> I see this channel feel nice today :)
[14:49] <Rory> Guest77522: "dan_" was already registered though so you might have to pick a name that's more unique
[14:50] <sakter12> "webcam not found" in google-chrome, ubuntu 13.10
[14:50] <Karmahacker> hi Guys! who can explain or suggest me if it possible please.   how could i limit user to be able use only Firefox in Gnome interface ?
[14:50] <Rory> Karmahacker: You want the only desktop app they can run to be Firefox?
[14:51] <Karmahacker> Rory yes
[14:51] <Rory> Karmahacker: if I were doing that, I would not use Gnome at all. I would make a new type of desktop session which runs Firefox only
[14:51] <Karmahacker>  Rory and no system menu
[14:51] <Rory> Karmahacker: Instructions here http://askubuntu.com/a/124767/62969
[14:51] <Rory> Karmahacker: replace "chromium-browser" with "firefox" or whatever
[14:52] <Rory> Karmahacker: Hmm those are a little chromium-specific actually. Are you comfortable adapting that for Firefox?
[14:52] <Karmahacker> Rory im not sure  ))
[14:52] <Defai> Sakter. Chrome have some workarounds and troubles in webcam, try to search "chrome not see my webcam" or so. I have similar trouble ago. It is chrome issue, in Linux...
[14:53] <Guest77522> im new here, jujst can watch you all chat'
[14:53] <Guest77522> :D
[14:53] <Defai> :)
[14:54] <Karmahacker> Rory another story i need to do that with vnc   and user should be able to runn firefox with more than one process
[14:55] <Defai> Firefox --help in commandline, to run another instance?
[14:55] <Karmahacker> Defai  Firefox -p -no-remote
[14:56] <Defai> Thank you!
[14:56] <Rory> Karmahacker: http://rory.sh/kiosk_instructions.txt
[14:57] <Karmahacker> Defai i might be wrong
[14:57] <Rory> That could work, although it's quite a naive approach
[14:57] <negev> hello, i have a dell XPS-13. ubuntu says there's a kernl security update, but if i install it all my dell drivers stop working and unity hangs (fun!).  can i restrict updates for a specific package to a specific repository?
[14:57] <Rory> negev: Is this the laptop from Dell that ships with ubuntu?
[14:57] <negev> Rory: yep
[14:57] <Karmahacker> Rory Thank you
[14:58] <sakter12> Defai, i see.... so it s a common issue?
[14:58] <Rory> negev: Are you using the same Ubuntu installation it shipped with?
[14:58] <sakter12> webcam and google-chrome in linux not working?
[14:58] <Defai> Yes
[14:58] <sakter12> damn
[14:59] <black_angel> sakter12: it works good.
[14:59] <negev> Rory: no, i had to reinstall 12.04 to get full disk encryption.  i then installed all the .debs from the dell support site and rolled the kernel back to their one in grub.cfg
[14:59] <Tx0> #join #vnluser
[14:59] <Defai> Work! It work
[14:59] <Pici> Tx0: /join #channel
[14:59] <Defai> But some interfaces or similar... Sometimes issues
[14:59] <sakter12> black_angel, not for me it says "webcam not found" what steps did you take to make it work good
[15:00] <black_angel> sakter12: does '/dev/video0' exist?
[15:00] <Karmahacker> Rory i couldn't  get this link
[15:01] <Rory> Karmahacker: this one? http://rory.sh/kiosk_instructions.txt might have typed it wrong sorry
[15:01] <sakter12> black_angel,  yes
[15:01] <Karmahacker> Rory yes
[15:01] <sakter12> black_angel,  its blank i think. and "cat video0" says invalid argument.
[15:01] <leguaani> Does anyone here know how the nvidia powermizer works? Or where should I ask?
[15:01] <Rory> Karmahacker: I just copies and pasted that from my address bar, and it's definitely the right URL
[15:02] <Rory> negev: That sounds complicated. The information from the Sputnik PPA says all the drivers and such have been integrated into the main kernel, so you might be having some other issues. Can you try running  a dist-upgrade and letting it install any new kernels?
[15:02] <Karmahacker> Rory  i have no idea  ((
[15:02] <negev> Rory: if  i do that it just installs the generic kernel from ubuntu.com, and then things break
[15:02] <Rory> Karmahacker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6971285/
[15:02] <whoever> hi all, I am on 1
[15:03] <Rory> negev: That's my point; things shouldn't break
[15:03] <black_angel> sakter12: it's ok, cause /dev/video0 is not a readable file, it's just a character special
[15:03] <Karmahacker> Rory got it
[15:03] <negev> Rory: well if i can just use a generic kernel from ubuntu.com why do dell provide the modified kernel?
[15:03] <Rory> negev: So I'd like you to break it, and then we can diagnose what's broken
[15:03] <Karmahacker> Rory network is bad sorry
[15:03] <Rory> negev: Back in the day, the drivers weren't in the main kernel
[15:03] <sakter12> black_angel, oh, so what do i do now?
[15:03] <Rory> negev: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-hwe-team/+archive/sputnik-kernel
[15:03] <negev> Rory: ok ill do that and come back in a bit
[15:04] <negev> Rory: thanks
[15:04] <black_angel> sakter12: what's the problem with you?
[15:04] <black_angel> sakter12: can google-chrome run on your system?
[15:04] <whoever> hi all, I am on 13.10 tring to find how to change the mouse posistion color (when you hit ctrl to find the mouse) how do i change the color from the redish color to another, I have looked in dconf-editor, but nothing there, can someone assist
[15:04] <sakter12> black_angel, yes ubuntu 13.10
[15:05] <negev> Rory: actually, just remembered if i use kernel 3.11 then i don't get two-finger scrolling in unity.  that's why i reverted to the 3.5 kernel dell provide on their support site
[15:05] <sakter12> when i run this website http://auduno.github.io/headtrackr/examples/targets.html  it says "allow or deny" webcame
[15:05] <sakter12> *webcam and when i hit allow the light turns on but then it says no camera found
[15:05] <Rory> negev: My advice would probably be to install the latest stuff from dist-upgrade, and then fix any individual issues that arise from that
[15:06] <sakter12> black_angel, does that website run for you and your webcam?
[15:07] <dan__> check
[15:07] <Pici> dan__: can we help you?
[15:07] <kemjang> Thank you!
[15:09] <black_angel> sakter12: i do not have a webcam.
[15:09] <whoever> and there isn't anything in universal access either
[15:10] <veke> is there a way from the installation to see a log of what's going on?
[15:10] <veke> the installation seems to hang but without any log
[15:10] <veke> I can't debug this
[15:17] <shreezbot> I'm having problems with my machine randomly rebooting on me with no explanation.  I've looked in all of the log files in /var/logs such as syslog and kern.log, but none of them have anything that would indicate why the system rebooted
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> shreeram: is there curruption in the log files before the reboot?
[15:18] <shreezbot> Doesn't seem to be
[15:19] <STHGOM> I've seen a couple forums about it but I need someone to explain how to mount an .iso file in wine
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> shreezbot: is your system getting hot at all?
[15:19] <STHGOM> man... there are a lot of people here...
[15:19] <shreeram> Y u r asking me???
[15:20] <STHGOM> if you know how then yes
[15:20] <STHGOM> :D
[15:20] <shreezbot> hitsujiTMO, I checked the system temp after the reboot, and it was hotter than usual (58 degrees), but it quickly dropped...
[15:20] <shreezbot> hitsujiTMO, I don't know if the system got hot before or after the reboot though...
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> shreeram: lol, sorry, wrong ping
[15:21] <sakter12> cd
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> shreeram: sudden reboots that don't get logged tend to be hardware related. Not enough power to a part, parts overheating, etc
[15:21] <shreeram> Lol
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> shreeram: lol sorry again. silly tab
[15:22] <shreeram> Its ok...
[15:22] <shreezbot> hitsujiTMO, Yea, I'm afraid of the hardware issue.  Not sure how to begin troubleshooting that as I'm not really strong on hardware...
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> shreezbot: try lm-sensors https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto keep monitoring the temps
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> shreezbot: how often are the reboots?
[15:23] <shreezbot> hitsujiTMO, Well, this time my uptime was at almost 6 days before the reboot.
[15:23] <miguel> iguel
[15:23] <miguel> miguel
[15:24] <miguel> xgdnbnxfggbjchxhfdhhnghjhgkjhkhj
[15:24] <miguel> google
[15:24] <shreezbot> hitsujiTMO, Does lm-sensors keep a history of the CPU temp?
[15:24] <hitsujiTMO> shreezbot: no, you'll have to watch it i'm afraid
[15:24] <shreezbot> hitsujiTMO, It's ok, I can script it.  :D
[15:25] <shreezbot> I wonder if sar keeps up with CPU temp
[15:25] <xreal> Anyone with an idea? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21916764/fuse-loopback-device-in-openvz-container
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> xreal: this is #ubuntu support not debian support. try #debian
[15:26] <xreal> hitsujiTMO: the problem is the same.
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> xreal: or openvz
[15:26] <xreal> hitsujiTMO: it's not an OpenVZ problem.s
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> xreal: this channel is dedicated to #ubuntu support only. debian have their channel #debian . or for a more agnostic channel try: ##linux . we cannot support you here
[15:29] <xreal> hitsujiTMO: it's not a dedicated debian, ubuntu or linux problem
[15:29] <xreal> hitsujiTMO: read the website first, then you'll understand it
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> xreal: you are not using ubuntu. its not an ubuntu problem
[15:30] <xreal> OMG... stupid ubuntu users
[15:32] <sakter12> is there a way to convert audio files from the command line?
[15:32] <whoever> need some help with an accessablity feature on 13.10 I am tring to change the mouse posision effect/color when you hit ctrl to locate the mouse , can someone assist
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> sakter12: absolutely
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> sakter12: your GUI apps are just GUIS ato CLI commands
[15:33] <sakter12> ActionParsnip, ah so i still need to download sound converter app. was wondering if there was a unix command to
[15:35] <black_angel> It's almost 12:00 PM, time to sleep.
[15:35] <clynamen> I have a pcie intel wi-fi card connected via a cpci card reader.  I modprobed the driver (iwlwifi), still the card doesn't appear in iwlist neither in lspci
[15:36] <clynamen> any clue about what could be missing?
[15:36] <bonez2046> I am trying to configure my server with port forwarding to 22. I am running ubuntu 12.10. DHCP works consistently, but if I change my /etc/network/interfaces to  iface eth0 inet static
[15:36] <bonez2046> then ifup -a give this error: root@fyrenice:/etc/network# ifup -a
[15:37] <bonez2046> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[15:37] <cypher-neo> clynamen, It's a card reader?
[15:37] <bonez2046> Failed to bring up eth0.
[15:37] <cypher-neo> clynamen, Does the card reader appear?
[15:38] <clynamen> cypher-neo: Actually I don't know if this should be visible in some way. This is the card reader: http://www.men.de/products/02F212-.html#t=overview
[15:38] <clynamen> The producer says that no driver are required for the reader itself
[15:38] <bgarrett> #exit
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> sakter12: mencoder is good, what are you converting from-to ?
[15:39] <antifa> hi
[15:39] <antifa> in order to install openoffice on ubuntu I need to purge liber office ?
[15:40] <sakter12> ActionParsnip, .aif to .mp3 and apparently sc cant do that so trying mencoder
[15:40] <sakter12> ActionParsnip, can it do .aif to .mp3?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> sakter12: http://askubuntu.com/questions/286535/how-to-convert-aif-audio-files-to-mp3
[15:42] <cypher-neo> clynamen, My guess is that the card itself would show up in lspci if it is installed correctly.
[15:43] <ABitPastOne>  Can someone recommend a good HTTP /HTTPS file downloader daemon / server. I'd like to turn an old computer into a file downloader. Torrent's is easy with deluge / transmission. But for some reason it hasn't been as easy to find something for simple HTTP downloader that has a client / server system preferably with WebUI of some sort
[15:43] <clynamen> cypher-neo: k, thx
[15:44] <antifa> how can I instal a program in a directory of my choosing ?
[15:46] <Georwl> I have a problem with my front mic. it doesn't work and I don't know what to do. can anyone help?
[15:46] <ABitPastOne>  Can someone recommend a good HTTP /HTTPS file downloader daemon / server. I'd like to turn an old computer into a file downloader. Torrent's is easy with deluge / transmission. But for some reason it hasn't been as easy to find something for simple HTTP downloader that has a client / server system preferably with WebUI of some sort
[15:47] <Georwl> Soundcard: ALC892
[15:47] <Gothi> Anyone able to help a total newbie who has no knowledge of using a terminal?
[15:47] <dearcarr0t> maybe there is something wrong with your electronic
[15:49] <OerHeks> Georwl, open terminal:  alsamixer # and select with F4 capture, and see if you can pop up a slide/unmute?
[15:49] <dearcarr0t> OerHeks:
[15:50] <LunatiK> Hello - I have a issue with setting up Squid proxy, I have put 'acl localnet src 192.168.42.0/24' in my config file, my private network is from eth1 (192.168.42.2) and apache serveur is on eth0 (10.12.12.254) - When I accesss to 10.12.12.254 squid didn't cache anything
[15:51] <Georwl> OerHeks: Yes I can slide/unmute
[15:51] <Georwl> however there was nothing unmuted
[15:55] <yacc_> ABitPastOne: maybe because the topic is kind of problematic => so you want a webapp where you can enter http urls so that you can retrieve the contents via http later on?
[15:56] <wrale> so, I'm seeing an issue on Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS 64-bit, where SR-IOV virtual functions don't appear as expected in 'ip link show'... Instead of getting the VF(s) below the PF(s), I get what appears to be additional PF(s).  Trying to configure them via 'ip link set DEV vf 0 mac aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff'  (or anything similar, appears to not work)
[15:57] <webfox> Hello guys!
[15:57] <wrale> it would seem that this is an expected behavior of late model kernels, but I cannot be sure.. i'm hoping someone can shed light on the issue
[15:57] <gothaggis|work> hello, i use kerberos to connect to active directory, works great.  However I am trying to change my shell and i can't get it to work.  chsh results in 'user does not exist in /etc/passwd' which is of course correct...so how does one change shell using ad authentication?
[15:58] <webfox> I got a Ubuntu Server running at a VM in Bridge mode and it is failing to fetch outside connection, like apt-get update. could someone help me to figure what could be the issue here please?
[16:00] <Georwl> anyone know how to solve fron mic issues?!?
[16:00] <Georwl> front microphone
[16:02] <wrale> gothaggis: every time i've used kerberos, i've had users in /etc/passwd  or i've used sssd.. um..hmm.. oh yeah.. the /etc/shadow encrypted password field for kerberized users should be like '*Kerberized*', which locks the password, but not the account
[16:03] <Vivekananda> hey veryone still stuck with the issue that my homescreen displays /home/user/ instead of /home/user/Desktop. What config files do I delete to reset this behaviour ?
[16:04] <wrale> webfox, look at the libvirt docs on bridging.. those are excellent
[16:06] <wrale> Vivekananda: http://askubuntu.com/questions/44449/ubuntu-desktop-suddenly-points-to-home-folder
[16:06] <Georwl> does anyone know howhow to make the fron microphone work?
[16:07] <wrale> what version of ubuntu?
[16:07] <Georwl> 12.04
[16:07] <wrale> unity ?
[16:07] <Georwl> no gnome
[16:07] <wrale> ah..
[16:07] <demophobia> How do I "zoom in" in gedit text editor?
[16:07] <demophobia> I want to make the text larger to see some kanji more clearly
[16:07] <demophobia> i can't seem to zoom in or increase text size
[16:08] <demophobia> it seems a very simple thing to do
[16:08] <wrale> demophobia: can't do it.. increasing text is only way
[16:08] <demophobia> control + + doesn't work
[16:08] <demophobia> how do i do that? i tried highlighting the text and going into preferences but it didn't work
[16:08] <demophobia> had to click 'select'
[16:08] <wrale> Georwl: sound output working?
[16:08] <demophobia> is there no way to 'preview' the changes??
[16:09] <aural__> When trying to install something using apt-get, it appears the archive.ubuntu.com address is being resolved as an ipv6 address and failing instead of ipv4.
[16:09] <Georwl> wrale: Yes, sound output is working. Also the rear output and input ist working
[16:09] <aural__> how can I configure system to use ipv4 addresses?
[16:09] <Georwl> wrale: also the front putput is working
[16:09] <wrale> Georwl: try alsamixer in a terminal
[16:09] <wrale> see if that goes anywhere
[16:09] <wrale> (hunch)
[16:10] <Georwl> wrale:  Front is actevated. I disabled the automute function... everything seems fine
[16:11] <wrale> aural__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/346126/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu (then reboot)
[16:11] <demophobia> wrale, thanks
[16:11] <wrale> demophobia: np
[16:11] <speaker1234> how do I prevent specific daemons from starting?
[16:11] <speaker1234> 12.04 server
[16:12] <wrale> speaker1234: google says: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[16:13] <speaker1234> google says lots of thing but not that...
[16:13] <wrale> :) times they are a changin'
[16:13] <speaker1234> thanks for the pointer :-)
[16:13] <wrale> np
[16:14]  * wrale tries to build karma in order to get his question answered
[16:15]  * wrale hands out purified water
[16:15] <speaker1234> what is you Q. I probably missed it
[16:16] <wrale>  I'm seeing an issue on Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS 64-bit, where SR-IOV virtual functions don't appear as expected in 'ip link show'... Instead of getting the VF(s) below the PF(s), I get what appears to be additional PF(s).  Trying to configure them via 'ip link set DEV vf 0 mac aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff'  (or anything similar, appears to not work)
[16:16] <g9m29> hello all
[16:16] <Georwl> wrale, whats your question?
[16:16] <wrale> ^
[16:16] <flan_suse> If the intel video driver is built in to the kernel, then why is there a separate package in the repos: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[16:17] <wrale> how can i fix it?
[16:17] <g9m29> I have a question about bug in ubuntu and I wonder if this is the place where I should ask
[16:17] <wrale> flan_suse: kernel module?
[16:18] <Hawkare> hi everybody!
[16:18] <speaker1234> g9m29: ask the Q and if we don't know, we will say nothing :-)
[16:18] <yeats> wrale: can you use fewer acronyms? SR-IOV? VFs? PFs?  also, your issue on the face of it sounds more appropriate for ##networking
[16:18] <Zooklubba> Running 14.04. Steam isn't working.
[16:18] <flan_suse> wrale: Yes.
[16:18] <flan_suse> wrale: Not sure what the difference is.
[16:18] <wrale> yeats: posted question there too, incidentally
[16:18] <flan_suse> Does the version of the intel video driver depend on the package in the repos? or on the kernel version?
[16:19] <g9m29> Can someone help me - When I open firefox in full screen there appears to be a sort of a white line over the tabs and I cannot fix that, It disappears when I click again on the top of the window but till then every new tab or old one being clicked get me this line
[16:19] <yeats> g9m29: I've seen that before - I think it's a problem with Unity, but I don't know the solution - I just futzed with it until it stopped
[16:19] <wrale> flan_suse: kernels ship with something called headers, which are kinda like metadata.. kernel modules are usually drivers or similar things which are compiled especially for that kernel.. they can be loaded and unloaded (see 'man modprobe')...
[16:20] <Pici> wrale: you might want to try #ubuntu-server as well
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> g9m29: can you give a screenshot of the issue please
[16:20] <flan_suse> wrale: Ah okay.
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> g9m29: use mageshack or similar to make a URL of the image
[16:20] <g9m29> okay
[16:20] <flan_suse> Thanks
[16:20] <wrale> flan_suse: the kernel headers are required to do the compilation.. but the repos contained pre-(or ready)-baked modules + kernels
[16:20] <wrale> (meaning headers aren't always required)
[16:21] <flan_suse> wrale: And ppas will have "more updated" pre-made ones.
[16:21] <flan_suse> Okay, makes sense.
[16:21] <flan_suse> Playing around with my intel card.
[16:21] <wrale> flan_suse: indeed, though not all ppa's are created equally
[16:21] <flan_suse> wrale: Yeah, I read some horror stories. ;)
[16:21] <wrale> Pici: thanks.. will do that
[16:22] <Pici> left
[16:22] <Pici> er
[16:24] <Kyoku> Has anyone come across this PHP segmentation fault before http://hastebin.com/nociqowibo.rb ?  Looking for a way to resolve it.
[16:25] <Zooklubba> So. Steam issue (ubuntu 14.04): .local/share/Steam/steam.sh: line 755:  5712 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) $STEAM_DEBUGGER "$STEAMROOT/$PLATFORM/$STEAMEXE" "$@"
[16:25] <Zooklubba> :(
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | Zooklubba
[16:26] <wrale> Kyoku: no, but my guess is the version you're using is statically linked to something not there.. i would suggest upgrading php
[16:26] <wrale> also: google zend
[16:27] <Kyoku> wrale: yeah seems to be something missing, it's basically installed via apt-get install php5 or whatever the command was so it means the Ubuntu distribution is missing something
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> Kyoku: you'll have to talk to the PPA maintainer for support on that one
[16:27] <ajoul> HOW to search recursively in a folder on all documents for a specific keyword?
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> Kyoku: you're using a ppa: php5-5.5
[16:28] <lucido> herro
[16:28] <wrale> Kyoku: try apt-get install zend*
[16:29] <wrale> ah.. @ ppa
[16:29] <wrale> yeah
[16:29] <wrale> what he said
[16:29] <lucido> I used grive to to syncronize a directory but it doesnt show up on my google drive in the browser
[16:29] <Kyoku> wrale yikes there're thousands of things to install
[16:29] <cuddylier> Anyone know why my Ubuntu Desktop USB just goes to a black screen upon boot?
[16:29] <cuddylier> I used the USB installer recommended on Ubuntu's website
[16:29] <wrale> how about zend-framework
[16:29] <wrale> (instead)
[16:30] <lucido> can someone explain how grive works?
[16:30] <wrale> cuddlyier: do you have two monitors
[16:30] <cuddylier> wrale: No, one
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | cuddylier
[16:31] <Xuisce1> hi
[16:31] <cuddylier> I've tried 3 Pcs and they all get the same issue
[16:31] <Xuisce1> !nvidia
[16:31] <wrale> cool
[16:31] <wrale> back to work :)
[16:31] <aphor> !trusty
[16:32] <aphor> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[16:33] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO That requires me to actually be able to install Ubuntu in the first place
[16:33] <aphor> Trusty Beta-1 features were supposed to be frozen yesterday. Does anyone know where the list is?
[16:33] <cuddylier> When I boot from my Hard Drive for the first time it's just blank
[16:33] <cuddylier> Black screen with flashing cursor
[16:33] <cuddylier> So I can't even change boot params
[16:33] <cuddylier> Or add boot options
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: no. add nomodeset to the grub of the installtion iso
[16:34] <wrale> boot while repeatedly hitting the up key :)
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> use left-shift / esc
[16:34] <cuddylier> hitsufiTMO: These are the folders I see: http://puu.sh/74Iep.png
[16:35] <ajoul> What is an AS POWERFUL tool as NOTEPAD++ in Ubuntu?
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: boot the usb, but hit left shift / esc to try and bring up grub as its booting?
[16:35] <wrale> vim-enhanced :)
[16:35] <fishcooker> is there any network manager for command line?
[16:35] <CullenDM> ajoul: Sublime Text?
[16:35] <OerHeks> editor
[16:35] <cypher-neo> ajoul, kate, geany, vim, nano
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> ajoul: as powerful? erm, well thats kind of a long list. might be better to ask whats more powerful?
[16:35] <OerHeks> !editor
[16:35] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: As in left shift or esc?
[16:35] <cuddylier> Both do nothing
[16:36] <cypher-neo> !code
[16:36] <wrale> !protectron
[16:36] <ajoul> cypher-neo I said as powerful I didn't say crappy
[16:36] <CullenDM> ajoul: Define powerful.
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: you're hitting either of them immediately after bootint the usb?
[16:36] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Yes
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: how did you create the iso? what tool?
[16:37] <ajoul> CullenDM, many functionalities, such as searching in directories recursively for text, such as replacing with regex, such as .. what notepad++ does
[16:37] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Universal USB Installer
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> ajoul: those listed do that. use sublime text tho. all the kool kids use it
[16:37] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: As recommended here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStickQuick
[16:37] <ajoul> hitsujiTMO, nano does that?
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: try linux live usb creator or unetbootin instead
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> ajoul: lol, ok, maybe not nano
[16:38] <wrale> ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about protectron :)
[16:38] <chaotix> hi.  I am using ubuntu 13.10, and am having the following error when i try to install or remove software now, whether in the command line or synaptic" i get an error:"E: musica: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1" due to the fact that i tried to try a program called musica, which gave me errors when i tried installing it, and when i try to remove it now, i get that error, and when i try to i
[16:38] <chaotix> nstall or update anything, or run the system update, this comes back
[16:38] <chaotix> i do not know what to do
[16:39] <cypher-neo> hitsujiTMO, nano does that
[16:39] <jojoa1997> hi can anyone help me with this. I am going in circles. http://pastebin.com/MKGhUwcq
[16:39]  * hitsujiTMO stands corrected
[16:39] <ajoul> hitsujiTMO, Do you know any text editor that supports automatic code beautifier? Such as the Eclipse Feature?
[16:40] <Watti> Help i  cant see " enable wifi " in my network settings please help !!!
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> jojoa1997: you'd need to contact the PPA maintainer
[16:40] <SuperLag> Any of you guys use Chrome as your default browser on Ubuntu? when you get an update, do you end up getting a duplicate Chrome icon in your Unity launcher? How do you keep that from happening??
[16:40] <Watti> ????
[16:40] <chaotix> actually, i am not getting the error for apt-get update, only when i try to uninstall musica, or install anything else
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> jojoa1997: looks like you're using conflicting PPAs
[16:40] <CullenDM> SuperLag: I never get duplicates, but that could just be me.
[16:40] <jojoa1997> i didnt install any new ppas
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> ajoul: sublime-text
[16:41] <jojoa1997> where can i see the ppas
[16:41] <Watti>  Help i  cant see " enable wifi " in my network settings please help !!!
[16:41] <CullenDM> Watti: What wireless card do you have?
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> jojoa1997: ~git20140215.1020d893-0ubuntu0sarvatt~saucy_amd64 <- thats not an ubuntu version string
, thx a lot!
[16:41] <SuperLag> CullenDM: it's happening to me on a fairly regular basis.
[16:42] <Watti> I dont know ?? but it was working yesterday

[16:42] <jojoa1997> hitsujiTMO what is it
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> jojoa1997: a PPA/custom deb version string
[16:42] <jojoa1997> oh i think i foudn it
[16:42] <jojoa1997> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/3916761/+listing-archive-extra
[16:42] <jojoa1997> how would i uninstall it?
[16:42] <CullenDM> SuperLag: Odd. I will watch for it next time I get an update.
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | jojoa1997
  please help !!!
[16:43] <CullenDM> Watti: Have you updated your computer since then?
[16:43] <Watti> No
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> jojoa1997: be warned. purging xorg-edgers rarely brings your system back to a usable state
[16:43] <CullenDM> Watti: Repeating your exclamation marks without giving me anymore information doesn't help me figure it out any faster.
[16:44] <CullenDM> Watti: Have you done anything different with your computer since it worked last?
 yes I tried to install some kali tools using sinaptic thats what i think the cause
[16:46] <jojoa1997> hitsujiTMO how would i ppa purge it and then reinstall it
[16:46] <chaotix> hello.  i have a package installed on my system called "musica".  it is a program i tried to install yesterday to try, but it does not work, and i want te remove it.  it is showing up as installed in synaptic, and anytime i try to install or remove any software, it tries to remove musica to no avail, and i get this error when trying to remove it in synaptic:  "E: musica: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error
[16:46] <chaotix>  exit status 1"   i do not know how to get rid of this seemingly broken package..  please help!  thanks in advance  :)
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> jojoa1997: ppa-purge will do that. but, xorg-edgers seems to change files outside of what gets purged and therefore breaks the rest of the system after a purge
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> jojoa1997: on odd ocasision a ppa-purge does work. but i'd back everything up first
 before i did that i my card was set in eth1 and not eth0
[16:48] <Watti> CullenDM please help me to fix
[16:48] <Rory> chaotix: Can you please run from a terminal this command: sudo apt-get purge musica
[16:48] <OerHeks> chaotix, known issue, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/musica/+bug/1244293
[16:48] <Rory> chaotix: Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[16:48] <Rory> Oh chaotix if it's a bug then see OerHeks link above
[16:48] <chaotix> sure, Rory
[16:49] <OerHeks> chaotix, please confirm this bugreport, so it will be higher in rank
[16:49] <Rory> chaotix: Check the bug first
[16:49] <chaotix> thanks, OerHeks i will take a look
[16:49] <CullenDM> Watti: Did you try uninstalling kali tools?
[16:49] <Watti> CullenDM> No
[16:49] <chaotix> it seems there is no fix
[16:49] <chaotix> :(
[16:49] <jojoa1997> the problem was my computer shutdown while i was doing dist upgrade
[16:49] <jojoa1997> is there a way to fix it
[16:50] <CullenDM> Watti: Try that first.
[16:51] <Watti> i will try it
[16:51] <Rory> jojoa1997: shutdown during package installation? Try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[16:51] <hitsujiTMO> Watti: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:52] <Watti> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[16:52] <gisli> names
[16:52] <jojoa1997> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:52] <jojoa1997> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[16:52] <jojoa1997> how do i get rid of the one not fully installed or removed
[16:52] <CullenDM> Has anyone else tested the integrated menus in 14.04?
[16:53] <chaotix> so the bug has been affecting people for 5 months, and the package was still in the software center for people to try, with no warning whatsoever
[16:54] <OerHeks> CullenDM, the 14.04 beta support channel #ubuntu+1 have
[16:54] <CullenDM> Yes, i figured that.
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> Watti: you need to upgrade. that version is EOL
[16:56] <lng> Hi! I have removed unity to use Gnome Classic on the new setup, but now my laptop and connected monitor have the same picture. When I open System Settings / Displays, I see single monitor. How do I add another one?
[16:57] <AlanBell> CullenDM: you have to have a fully updated 14.04 and turn it on in the appearances thing in system settings
[16:58] <CullenDM> Oh, I know. I am already using it.
[16:59] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO I just tried linuxliveusb and same issue :(
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> AlanBell: CullenDM as has already been pointed out. all 14.04 related support/discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: and you cannot get access to grub?
[17:00] <cuddylier> Nope, although ny hard drive seems to have virtual box on it, that isn't right is it?
[17:00] <Rory> joako: Can you please show me the output of the command: sudo apt-get -f install
[17:00] <Rory> joako: Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[17:00] <Rory> Sorry joako
[17:01] <Rory> People leaving... stealing tab complete focus :(
[17:02] <watti> when i start ubuntu i get this message " unable to start firware 2" ???
[17:03] <blazemore> watti: Does it prevent Ubuntu from starting?
[17:03] <blazemore> watti: Or do you just see it as part of the bootup process, then everything is okay after that?
[17:04] <watti>  <blazemore>  No but what does it mean ???
[17:04] <blazemore> watti: Do you have firewire on your device?
[17:04] <cuddylier> Why do the Ubuntu isos say AMD in their name?
  NO
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: amd created the current 64bit spec. intel licence it from amd
[17:05] <blazemore> watti: Then don't worry about it
[17:05] <blazemore> The "amd64" in the Ubuntu installation image filename is a common way to refer to all 64-bit processors (by both Intel and AMD) - It's called this for historical reasons around the invention of the architecture
[17:05] <blazemore> watti: It likely means the kernel is trying to load a firewire module, but you don't have any firewire devices or something
[17:05] <webfox> I've being getting this weird errors when I try to upgrade from my Ubuntu Servers and I thought it could be related to the region I was using to obtain the mirrors server and I've followed this website but still getting the same problem after all. Could someone help me figure what that could be please?
[17:06] <OerHeks> Intel made an i64, but AMD64 was the first 32/64 bit multiarch cpu design
[17:07] <webfox> ups, forget the website : http://askubuntu.com/questions/104695/how-do-i-change-mirrors-in-ubuntu-server-from-regional-to-main :P
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> webfox: edit sources.list   what region are you in now?
[17:10] <webfox> hitsujiTMO: I just did that, removed my region to use main, and problem persists, besides my client machine works just fine with local repository.
[17:11] <hitsujiTMO> webfox: did you rerun: sudo apt-get update ?
[17:12] <utusan> webfox: could be lucid is EOL?
[17:13] <r0b-> has anyone had issues using Yumi to create a multi boot USB and having Ubuntu fail to boot?
[17:13] <webfox> hitsujiTMO: yes, got : Err http://br.archive.ubuntu.com saucy InRelease
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> webfox: so you're still using the regional mirror and haven't changed it
[17:15] <webfox> hitsujiTMO: let me test it again.
[17:17] <chottu> i am using internet behind proxy server i am unable to clone repository form git and unable to checkout from svn  i observed i am unable to ping websites how shoul i configure then??
[17:18] <webfox> hitsujiTMO: problem persists as : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9138696
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> webfox: Could not resolve 'security.ubuntu.com' dns issues
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> webfox: what dns are you using?
[17:19] <chottu> my institution uses 10.1.1.11 and 10.1.1.12
[17:19] <webfox> hitsujiTMO: I haven't set a DNS.
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> webfox: you need a dns to resolve domain names. pastebin the contents of: /etc/resolv.conf
[17:20] <webfox> hitsujiTMO: how do I set it, normally I use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 from Google.
[17:21] <webfox> hitsujiTMO: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9138769
[17:21] <bodhi_zazen> webfox: you can set one in networkmanager, in the ipv4 tab
[17:22] <tmmunq> nameserver 8.8.8.8
[17:22] <tmmunq> one per line
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> bodhi_zazen: he's using ubuntu server
[17:22] <tmmunq> if you have a dynamic ip, your dhcp server should be setting this
[17:24] <webfox> tmmunq: yes, I am using a DHCP server
[17:24] <Blanco> re
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> webfox: then there's an issue with the dhcp server or the dns servers its supplying
[17:24] <webfox> Where and how do I set the DNSs?
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> webfox: you need to set the dns in the dhcp server
[17:24] <tmmunq> do you have control of that dhcp server?
[17:25] <webfox> hitsujiTMO: why, it is not just the DNS which is missing?
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> webfox: dns is supplied by dhcp if you're using dhcp
[17:26] <olegfusion> Hello!
[17:26] <webfox> hitsujiTMO: I am afraid my router doesn't supplies :P
[17:26] <bodhi_zazen> webfox: you can try one of these options - http://splatoperator.com/2013/03/the-easy-way-to-add-custom-dns-servers-in-ubuntu/
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> webfox: so its either supplying an invalid dns, or there's a problem with the dns server itself that its supplying
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> webfox: then pastebin: /etc/resolv.conf
[17:26] <olegfusion> May anybody please help me? How can I run script (wine) just after desktop is loaded?
[17:27] <olegfusion> at boot
[17:27] <tmmunq> in /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf, set option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.2; -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/isc-dhcp-server
[17:30] <Kitty_> hello
[17:30] <Kitty_> i need some help
[17:30] <Kitty_> with my ubuntu gnome
[17:31] <r0b-> whats up?
[17:31] <Nostrada> testing testing.  What do you want ?
[17:31] <bodhi_zazen> Kitty_: gnome-shell  or unity ?
[17:31] <daftykins> Kitty_: please ask with detail on one line
[17:31] <Kitty_> i cant install a web browser
[17:31] <Kitty_> like opera or
[17:31] <Kitty_> firefox
[17:31] <SchrodingersScat> !enter | Kitty_
[17:32] <bodhi_zazen> Kitty_: error message ?
[17:32] <Kitty_> how to instaak
[17:32] <Kitty_> install web browser on my ubuntu gnome?
[17:33] <Pici> Kitty_: open up software center, find a browser, press install.
[17:33] <dersquisher> hm, my bumblebee broke all over sudden... possibly after the latest kernel release (12.04). It just complains "Invalid configuration: no driver configured."
[17:34] <williamtdr> Hi. Having problems giving www-data root access for exec().
[17:35] <Nostrada> Not to start a flamewar, but why did you pick Ubuntu over other distros ?
[17:37] <r0b-> ive tried many distros but Ubuntu seems the easiest to setup
[17:39] <CullenDM> The only problem that I have ubuntu is that I constantly find myself setting it up.
[17:46] <bipul> Any Ubuntu lover here who love to listen my complain.
[17:50] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: I've triec everything, same issue :(
[17:50] <cuddylier> tried*
[17:54] <leeyaa> hello
[17:54] <leeyaa> i have created a custom init.d script that i included to ubuntu services
[17:54] <leeyaa> however on reboot it doesnt start
[17:54] <leeyaa> doing/etc/init.d/{start,restart,stop} is working fine
[17:54] <leeyaa> can anyone tell me how to check why it didnt start ?
[17:55] <cong> sudo
[17:55] <tomreyn> leeyaa: check permissions + ownership
[17:55] <tomreyn> a common mistake is lack of +x
[17:55] <leeyaa> tomreyn: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 888 Feb 21 19:12 /etc/init.d/hvpn
[17:56] <leeyaa> if there was no x it wouldnt work when i do /etc/init.d/hvpn restart
[17:57] <tomreyn> leeyaa: right, i missed you saying that.
[17:57] <tomreyn> permissions + file ownership look good
[17:57] <tomreyn> does it have a proper header?
[17:58] <tomreyn> and have you set the runlevel symlinks?
[17:59] <leeyaa> tomreyn: nvm resolv.conf was broken by the vpn
[18:00] <leeyaa> hm, is there a way to run dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf without prompting for entry ?
[18:01] <leeyaa> thats why it didnt star.t resolv.conf was replaced and it could not connect
[18:03] <dyslectic-dingo> hi im trying to bild a rig for gaming, and just cant get heads or tails on what to do with graphic-drivers, witch ones to use and how to get them to work, its a jungle i cant seam to traverse
[18:04] <dyslectic-dingo> and oh its a 64bits sys,
[18:09] <bodhi_zazen> dyslectic-dingo: probably a slightly older card known to work with mir or wayland, some of the newer cards do not work so well with mir / wayland, sort of depends on what version of Ubuntu you want, google is your friend
[18:14] <onca> my system would work great if I could just ignore the multitude of "system problem detected" windows that popup
[18:16] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone.
[18:17] <John_John_> i installed vim in 13.10 and now i don't know where the config file is or the installation directory.
[18:17] <bonez2046> How to resolve this: RTNETLINK answers: File exists  Failed to bring up eth0
[18:17] <jonbryan> ~/.vimrc
[18:17] <ripthejacker> I have a Wifi USB adapter which can be used as a soft AP. The device came with a software that can be installed in windows. How can I do the same in Ubuntu?
[18:18] <ripthejacker> The ad hoc hotspot from the ubuntu network manager doesn't work with newer android devices
[18:20] <jonbryan> John_John_: should have went to /usr/bin
[18:22] <webfox> hitsujiTMO: couldn't make DHCP server send a default DNS. There is no way to set a fix DNS?
[18:22] <bodhi_zazen> John_John_: which vim , sudo updatedb ; locate vim
[18:28] <shreezbot> In lm-sensors, what in the heck is AUXTIN?  Mine is reading a temp of 127 degrees...
[18:28] <cylonfrack> I'm having a lot of problems with various system apps and resources crashing and experiencing problems which force them to close. Is there a system utility that can explore these problems and find fixes? I'm using 13.10 btw
[18:35] <Guest40715> Hey the "enable wifi" textbox is messing HOW to bring it back ? and i cant see  eth1 when i type ifconfig ?? please help I am lost !!!!!
[18:35] <jjavaholic_> could someone explain to me what this is : Modaliases: nvidia_304(pci:v000010DEd00000040sv*sd*bc03sc*i) and what it does?
[18:36] <Olivier___> needs help!! to activate my wireless on my Dell Latitude D510
[18:37] <Guest40715> the "enable wifi" textbox is messing HOW to bring it back ? and i cant see  eth1 when i type ifconfig ?? please help I am lost !!!!!
[18:37] <mike__> Guest40715: sudo service networking restart
[18:43] <morsnowski> df -h
[18:43] <morsnowski> hmm
[18:47] <jhutchins> Guest4818: You can also use sudo ifconfig -a to display cards that are known but not up.
[18:50] <buree> I just installed ubuntu 12.4.4 after removing it to install windows 7, Now after installation I dont see any wifis...is this because i had installed wifi driving when in win7?
[18:51] <jhutchins> buree: Probably not.
[18:51] <jhutchins> buree: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[18:52] <buree> jhutchins, I simply wanted ubuntu back so i booted the LTS CD and installed normally with the GUI, after i logged in, there were no wifis to choose from so i could get online
[18:52] <bmxscott1993> help need amd catalyst control center to work with x1550 but it is not working but i'v tryed to aticonfig but still nothing i'v tryed this still nothing http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx/126513#126513
[18:53] <jhutchins> buree: You mean in the network-manager applet?
[18:53] <buree> top right
[18:53] <guest_________> enable wifi textbox is still messing i did typed  "sudo service networking restart" but ,:..
[18:53] <buree> you usually click and there are nearby wifi signals
[18:53] <jhutchins> Ah, that one.  There are multiple possibilities.
[18:53] <guest_________> helppp
[18:54] <buree> jhattara, I see, what might be one
[18:54] <buree> it was working previiously
[18:55] <jhutchins> It's possible that w7 shut the card off with a software switch.
[18:55] <guest_________> HELP please
[18:55] <buree> jhutchins, that sounds very likely
[18:55] <buree> in my case
[18:55] <jhutchins> guest_________: Be patient.  We're just fellow users, and many of us are doing something else as well.
[18:55] <buree> i forgot how to check if its off
[18:55] <jhutchins> !wfi
[18:55] <jhutchins> !wifi
[18:56] <buree> sweet!
[18:56] <buree> thanks
[18:56] <jhutchins> I'm afraid I haven't had any trouble with networking in recent ubuntu, so I'm a bit short on help.
[18:56] <jhutchins> guest_________: You might look at the docs as well.
[18:57] <buree> jhutchins, ever since 13.10 and 12.4.4LTS  had not probs untill i installed win7 and tried to go back
[18:57] <guest_________> what might caused this problem i dont have time to read all that i need to fix it as soon as poss
[18:58] <jhutchins> buree: You should be able to dual boot w7 and Ubuntu without serious issues.
[18:58] <buree> really
[18:58] <buree> jhutchins, i never looked into having both OS's
[18:59] <jhutchins> It's been a pretty standard configuration for quite a while.
[18:59] <bodhi_zazen> guest_________: well, start working through this guide and identify your hardware - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessPCMCIATroubleshooting
[19:02] <jhutchins> buree: rfkill is the command I was trying to remember.  I think sudo rfkill -l
[19:05] <prab> hi
[19:05] <Cherir> hi :)
[19:07] <buree> jhutchins, rfkill to unblock the wifi
[19:07] <buree> you mean?
[19:09] <buree> doesnt seem to be blocked lol  soft nor hard
[19:09] <gesstt> I got this message when ubuntu start " unable to load firmware : -2    what does it mean ???
[19:10] <gesstt> I got this message when ubuntu start " unable to load firmware : -2    what does it mean ???
[19:11] <gesstt> ???
[19:11] <bodhi_zazen> gesstt: is all your hardware working ?
[19:11] <bodhi_zazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Firmware
[19:12] <jhutchins> buree: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  WHat's the hardware like?  Multiple adapters?
[19:12] <bodhi_zazen> gesstt: if so, you can probably ignore that message. If not, identify your problematic hardware, and be patient
[19:12] <jhutchins> gesstt: The system was unable to load firmware.
[19:13] <jhutchins> gesstt: If you keep changing your nick it's going to be harder for people to help you.  You also need to respond to what people tell you.
 your right , i guess i need to create an account
[19:16] <buree> jhutchins, I am connected to the internet via ehternet, not sure if that interferes with trying to fix the wifi, I really think something changed when i installed the win7 and isntalled drivers
[19:16] <jhutchins> gesstt: /msg nickserv help register
[19:17] <jhutchins> buree: Ok, so you see the card with rfkill -l. Do you see it with iwconfig?
[19:18] <jhutchins> buree: Are there entries for it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[19:19] <jhutchins> buree: What card is it?  Does dmesg | grep firmware show any complaints about not finding it?
[19:19] <buree> jhutchins, http://pastebin.com/EWw4nW9i
[19:19] <jhutchins> buree: No, you can have both a wired and a wifi connection at the same time.  THat's how a wifi access point works after all.
[19:19] <buree> that?
[19:19] <jhutchins> !paste
[19:20] <jhutchins> buree: Could you use the ubuntu bin?  pastbin.com is blocked (for good reason).
[19:20] <buree> really oh
[19:20] <buree> ok
[19:20] <hitsujiTMO> jhutchins: too much ascii porn? :P
[19:21] <jhutchins> hitsujiTMO: spam, malware.
[19:21] <jhutchins> I can bypass it, but I like to save my "annoy the authorities" cards for when I really need 'em.
[19:21] <buree> jhutchins, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6972557/
[19:22] <morsnowski> !pastebinit
[19:22] <morsnowski> !screenshots
[19:23] <jhutchins> buree: Ok, most likely the driver hasn't loaded.  You can probably see why in dmesg | less.  Does lspci show the device?
[19:23] <jjavaholic> "debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog debconf: (Dialog frontend requires a> screen at least 13 lines tall and 31 columns wide.) debconf: falling> back to frontend: Readline" what is going wrong here?
[19:23] <jhutchins> jjavaholic: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:24] <buree> jhutchins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6972569/ lspci yea my card is at the bottom rev 73
[19:24] <jjavaholic> botched downgrade of libgtk-3.0
[19:25] <jjavaholic> and try and install cinerella once I thought I was clear
[19:29] <andrewjs18> how do you search a file without knowing what directory it's in?  will find filename work?
[19:31] <MrHoppy> hello
[19:31] <jhutchins> buree: http://askubuntu.com/questions/342934/qualcomm-atheros-ar8172-driver-fix-lenovo-g500s
[19:31] <buree> im going to try to reinstall ubuntu as well lol
[19:31] <SchrodingersScat> andrewjs18: check out the man page for find, something like find . -name "filename" would start from the current directory and find.
[19:31] <jhutchins> buree: Don't know why it would have worked before but not now.  No, don't do a full reinstall for one driver.
[19:32] <MrHoppy> how do i go about making ubuntu run faster?
[19:32] <buree> alright thanks for the link
[19:32] <buree> ill try
[19:32] <AmbiguousOutlier> hello, my virt-manager keeps asking for a password, when it never used to, I can't work out what i've changed
[19:32] <buree> it
[19:32] <andrewjs18> SchrodingersScat, thanks
[19:33] <jhutchins> buree: D'Oh, that's the ethernet, not the wifi.
[19:34] <jhutchins> buree: Which kernel do you have?
[19:34] <jhutchins> !kernels
[19:34] <mihaila> hello , speak english ?
[19:35] <mihaila> more speak romanian ?
[19:35] <MrHoppy> salut
[19:35] <mihaila> Salut hoppy :d
[19:35] <MrHoppy> deci?
[19:35] <jhutchins> buree: You may need the 3.13 kernel, and I'm not sure how to get that.
[19:35] <buree> i just noticed it was ehternet jhutchins
[19:35] <jhutchins> !ro
[19:35] <mihaila> Incepator ubuntu
[19:35] <mihaila> :d
[19:35] <mihaila> !ro
[19:35] <buree> 3.12 and and 3.13 work best w my system
[19:36] <buree> ive noticed jhutchins
[19:36] <buree> im on 3.11 for 12.4.4
[19:36] <buree> ill get 13.10 ubuntu
[19:36] <buree> but i dont understand, 12.4.4 worked for mebefore
[19:37] <buree> flawlessly
[19:39] <jhutchins> buree: I don't know.  Maybe you had the newer kernel already?  Intel says it works with 3.10+
[19:39] <Hivskiy> у
[19:39] <jhutchins> buree: modprobe iwlwifi && iwconfig
[19:39] <buree> damn
[19:40] <buree> eth0   no wireless extensions  & lo no wireless extensions jhutchins
[19:41] <apatheticshp> howdy
[19:41] <jhutchins> So now we need to look at dmesg and see what it thinks is happening with that card.
[19:42] <jhutchins> Shift-G to see the end of the text in less, g for beginning / to search forward, ? to search back.
[19:45] <jjavaholic> what is going on here: "dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 34099 package 'nvidia-304':
[19:45] <jjavaholic>  field name `v000010DEd000002E1sv*sd*bc03sc*i*,' must be followed by colon"
[19:45] <buree> Ill be backsies lol idk whats up with this
[19:46] <genii> jjavaholic: The file has been corrupted
[19:46] <apatheticshp> I am installing ubuntu 12.04 on a dell R210 ii - the R210 has a PERC 4e with 2 1tb disks, the disks are configured as a RAID 1 in hardware.  the Ubuntu setup however still sees 2 disks and asks which i would like to install on.  am i missing something here?
[19:46] <jjavaholic> how can I resolve this?
[19:50] <webgen> hey guys i have a slight problem, i installed gnome-shell on 13.10... text menu shows up halfway and i generally have a feeling that it still has the color pallete/text size from the unity. how do i choose gnome theme??? thanks in advance
[19:50] <yeats> apatheticshp: you probably have to install dmraid
[19:50] <nandha> guys can i know how to install rpm package
[19:50] <yeats> nandha: don't ;-)
[19:51] <yeats> nandha: you should try to find a deb, or install from source
[19:51] <jjavaholic> so I changed directory to /var/lib/dpkg/ and then moved ./status-old to ./status which cleared it up but I still have a problem with what must be the problem package cinelerra-cv
[19:51] <nandha> thanks
[19:51] <jjavaholic> "Errors were encountered while processing: cinelerra-cv E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[19:52] <yeats> jjavaholic: try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[19:52] <jjavaholic> you mean sudo apt-get -f remove cinelerra-cv?
[19:53] <yeats> jjavaholic: nope - literally what I typed before
[19:55] <jjavaholic> and then I got this: http://pastebin.com/peTiYbhz
[19:57] <apatheticshp> yeats - it's the ubuntu installation ... I can't install any additional packages until the initial install is done - but ... why would ubuntu see a hardware raid volume as 2 seperate disks?
[19:59] <en1gma> i have a windows laptop that i hooked up an external usb hdd. it has a 415GB ntfs partition and a 46GB fat32. i think im gonna use unetbootin to put ubuntu (which flavor not known yet) on the 46GB but i dont want it to mess with my windows drives (AT ALL) the external i have disconnected most the time
[20:00] <en1gma> how do i go about doing it so there is a swap partition and install partition in that same 46GB fat32
[20:00] <en1gma> i dont care if there is a boot loader on that drive
[20:00] <en1gma> but not on my windows drives
[20:01] <mike__> en1gma: fat32 maxes out at 32gb not 46gb
[20:01] <en1gma> crap it looks like it only wants to let me do it on the c:\ drive and that cant happen
[20:01] <en1gma> no its ok to format that ext4 or w/e
[20:01] <en1gma> that partition is fine to do w/e with
[20:02] <en1gma> as long as i dont lose the data on the 415GB ntfs partition thats already there
[20:02] <en1gma> unetbootin isnt letting me select that drive anyhow
[20:02] <en1gma> hmm
[20:04] <en1gma> looking for thumbstick and usb sd card
[20:05] <en1gma> brb
[20:05] <webgen> does anyone know why half of the text doesn't show up on menu items after i installed gnome?
[20:06] <hochmeister> can someone help me with this upstart conf: http://pastebin.com/hXS525Ed ?? It's acting strangely. When the logger command in the pre-start stanza is commented, upstart says "Job failed to start". When uncommented I get a classpath related error.
[20:06] <anon> how do I display user list on xchat-gnome
[20:06] <anon> on ubuntu
[20:06] <antifa> hello
[20:07] <SAilorR> nvm figured it out
[20:07] <anshulk> anon, ctrl + F7
[20:08] <anshulk> or View -> User List
[20:08] <anshulk> antifa, hello
[20:08] <xubuntu_> hi all
[20:09] <SchrodingersScat> xubuntu_: hello
[20:09] <xubuntu_> how can I format my ssd drive on live mode
[20:09] <antifa> is there any posible way to install openoffice and libreoffice together ? on ubuntu 13.10
[20:10] <Seveas> antifa: why would you want that? openoffice is pretty much dead, and libreoffice can do everything openoffice can.
[20:10] <Seveas> xubuntu_: with the mkfs command
[20:10] <xubuntu_> hmm
[20:10] <antifa> cause I have nothing else to do and I was trying to do this :))
[20:10] <user_> How can I put a windows iso on my usb?
[20:11] <antifa> user_ unetbootin
[20:11] <user_> antifa: heard the new unetbootin can't do it
[20:11] <antifa> ?
[20:11] <Seveas> antifa: well, your best shot would be to install from source. Get the build dependencies with sudo apt-get build-dep libreoffice and then do the ./configure/make/make install dance. Be sure to pick a PREFIX like /usr/local/openoffice so removing it is one rm -rf
[20:11] <antifa> try runing power iso
[20:12] <Seveas> user_: this channel is for ubuntu support try ##windows for windows support.
[20:13] <antifa> thanks
[20:13] <antifa> it sounds like a real head pain
[20:13] <antifa> :))
[20:14] <Seveas> antifa: it is. Also, openoffice takes rather long to compile. But you said you were bored :)
[20:14] <xubuntu_> how to format drive so I can install xubuntu on it_
[20:14] <mike__> user_: Windows 7 USB/DVD Download tool
[20:14] <antifa> I already have OOo installed
[20:14] <antifa> :)
[20:14] <Seveas> xubuntu_: just start the installer, it'll do the formatting for you
[20:14] <jhutchins> xubuntu_: The installer will format it for you.
[20:15] <user_> I'm getting a "configuring grub-pc" package configuration prompt in my terminal, what does it want? Could this screw up grub?
[20:15] <xubuntu_> no, it wont, it lets some crap in there and it wont start, there was error in my previous debian and it is there still somehow...
[20:16] <xubuntu_> i would use gparted, but it does not seem to let me run in live/xubuntu
[20:16] <jhutchins> user_: Is it asking a question or telling you it's configuring?
[20:17] <jhutchins> user_: What were you doing when you got that message?
[20:17] <user_> jhutchins: It first appeared when I installed a package called winusb
[20:18] <user_> It says "the grub-pc package is being upgraded"
[20:18] <antifa> donno if live cds have gparted installed
[20:19] <xubuntu_> how i go to root in live xubuntu
[20:19] <antifa> sudo
[20:20] <webfox> How can I test a network connection on Ubuntu Server?
[20:20] <user_> Should I install grub on all my devices?
[20:21] <tomreyn> webfox: outbound, inbound, tcp, udp, something else? what's the goal?
[20:21] <user_> do I put it on /dev/sda or /dev/sda2?
[20:22] <Seveas> webfox: nc is a useful tool for testing network connectivity. tcpdump can be useful for troubleshooting
[20:22] <mike__> user_: i put mine on sda
[20:22] <webfox> tomreyn: the server down't seems to be receiving packages from outside.
[20:22] <user_> mike__: ok did that. lol if my laptop doesn't start...
[20:23] <Beldar> xubuntu_, This a computer that is uefi, maybe had W8 a gpt partitioning setup?
[20:23] <mike__> user_: you know who to blame?
[20:23] <webfox> I was guessing it was a DNS issue but I already tested it and doesn't change anything.
[20:23] <tomreyn> user_: in most configurations installing it to the MBR  (so to /dev/sda + if you have, other disks like sdb, sdc ...) is sufficient
[20:23] <tomreyn> webfox: how is the outside something connecting to it?
[20:23] <webfox> tomreyn: yes, by ssh
[20:24] <webfox> tomreyn: but it can't even ping a URL
[20:25] <tomreyn> webfox: URLs are just descriptions of locations, you cannot "ping an URL"
[20:25] <webfox> tomreyn: if I ping URL it fails but if I ping an IP it works. So it should be a DNS issue.
[20:26] <tomreyn> webfox: maybe by "ping URL" you mean running ping on a hostname?
[20:26] <webfox> tomreyn: I can ping google.com for example, no?
[20:26] <Beldar> antifa, If someone asks or root in any OS here get some context why before just answering, they may be on the wrong track.
[20:26] <mike__> webfox: nameserver needs to be set in resolv.conf?
[20:27] <Beldar> for*
[20:27] <tomreyn> webfox: "google.com" is a hostname, also "www.google.com", but "http://www.google.com/ubuntu" is a URL
[20:27] <webfox> mike__: resolv.conf is not a static file.
[20:27] <jjavaholic> http://pastebin.com/peTiYbhz
[20:28] <tomreyn> webfox: so, yes, sounds like it can be an issue with your domains' authoritative DNS
[20:28] <webfox> tomreyn: if I ping google.com it fails but when I ping 77.135.110.29 (google IP) it works.
[20:28] <Cherir> hi all i'm new on ubuntu , i want to install  my nvidia GT 610 drivers ( i have  Cd but i think it's just for windows ) So how can i install my driver . ///last time i install them on kali i have a problem " black screen " so i switched to ubuntu ///
[20:28] <tomreyn> webfox: ...or with the DNS client configuration on the system you are using to connect to your server
[20:28] <webfox> tomreyn: how do you think I could check and solve it?
[20:29] <Beldar> Cherir, There is an additional drivers option best place to start.
[20:29] <tomreyn> webfox: from where to where are you trying to connect? and where does resolving google.com fail?
[20:30] <Cherir> yes i see the  additional drivers  but there are 5 which on of them ?
[20:30] <webfox> tomreyn: I have a Ubuntu 13.10 Server running inside a VM as client of a Ubuntu 13.10 host.
[20:30] <webfox> tomreyn: and the client server is failing.
[20:31] <iknowalittle> webfox: just jumping in here, but it looks like your dns isn't working.
[20:31] <jhutchins> webfox: resolv.conf is not a static file, but whether it has valid content usually determines whether dns works.
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander> hello, earlier on I restarted my PC and ubuntu froze on login, then I did a hard reset and got the message "system running in low-graphics mode", another hard reset, then I got the recovery mode selection screen, but the keyboard didn't work at all, third reset, I could boot and got a message saying "MMIO" or something
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander> now everything works again
[20:32] <jhutchins> webfox: The contents of nsswitch determine how hosts are determined, but the defaults are usuallly correct.
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander> is this something grave?
[20:32] <jhutchins> webfox: How is your networking configured?  Does it use DHCP?
[20:32] <Beldar> Cherir, Use nicks here you can tab complete them, and detail what you see, for example in the additional drivers.
[20:33] <webfox> jhutchins: right. But where do I have to ove in order to set a DNS other then resolv.conf?
[20:33] <jhutchins> webfox: It depends.  Is the configuration static or DHCP?
[20:33] <Cherir> beldar  can i send you a screenshot ?
[20:34] <tomreyn> webfox: okay, let me try to get this right: you have a desktop computer running ubuntu 13.10, it runs some virtualization software, and so your desktop computer is a virtualization host. one of the guests (VMs) is a ubuntu 13.10 server. you are trying to connect from your desktop to this VM (the ubuntu 13.10 server), and it fails with a TCP connect timeout. is this correct?
[20:34] <webfox> jhutchins: yes, it uses DHCP and I set it to distribute DNS and set it to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. It showed at resolv.conf as nameserver 8.8.8.8 and nameserver 8.8.4.4 but nothing else changed.
[20:34] <jhutchins> webfox:  http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution
[20:34] <Beldar> Cherir, I'm not a nvidia user so others will be better help, in general you want to use the ubuntu repos drivers, make a image for the channel yes as part of your query for assistance.
[20:35] <antifa> sory
[20:35] <jhutchins> webfox: Ok, so you say resolv.conf is valid, can you ping those two addresses?
[20:35] <Cherir> beldar ok thnx :)
[20:35] <Beldar> Cherir, My help was to get you orientated for easy help.
[20:35] <jhutchins> webfox: does host google.com return an address?
[20:36] <webfox> tomreyn: not really. Almost there. I can connect from whatever BUT from inside the server it fails to translate DNSs.
[20:36] <adie> I broke my video drivers and i'm not sure what to do about it! no matter what I do, it boots in low-graphics recovery mode, but I can enable any of my nvidia drivers via jockey-text, start lightdm, and it works just fine. I've already remove/purged all drivers and reinstalled them, reinstalled lightdm, but no dice
[20:36] <webfox> jhutchins: I guess not. I am doing it really because I need a update of apt-get and it failed.
[20:37] <tomreyn> webfox: so from inside of the ubuntu server VM you are trying to conect to a remote location and this fails with a name lookup error, correct?
[20:38] <webfox> tomreyn: exactly!
[20:38] <tomreyn> webfox: can you connect to that remote location by ip address?
[20:39] <webfox> tomreyn: do you mean connect the server via ssh for example?
[20:39] <tomreyn> webfox: you said you are trying to setup an ssh connection, so yes, i guess so.
[20:40] <okee_> I want to create a new configuration file for my network using " isc-dhcp-server " , but i dont know how to move the default configuration file to a different name ???
[20:40] <webfox> tomreyn: yes, I can connect to it from client/host
[20:40] <yeats> apatheticshp: sorry - stepped away - did you figure it out?  and btw, you *can* install dmraid from within the installer environment
[20:41] <tomreyn> webfox: what is "it" and what is "client/host"?
[20:41] <iknowalittle> I have a ubuntu 12.10 server(actually a host with multiple 12.10 vms as well) that I want to upgrade to 14.04 when it comes out. I've read the upgrade path will be supported, can someone confirm this?
[20:41] <okee_> can anyone help me ??
[20:42] <yeats> iknowalittle: yes, LTS to LTS is supported
[20:42] <yeats> iknowalittle: wait - 12.10?
[20:42] <OerHeks> iknowalittle, 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04
[20:42] <yeats> iknowalittle: sorry - yeah OerHeks is right - wasn't reading closely
[20:42] <webfox> I just changed my router to Set DNS Manually with Google DNS and resolv.conf has nameserver 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 but still failing to ping google.com and it somehow blocked external ssh connections.
[20:43] <jhutchins> okee_: Which default configuration file?
[20:43] <yeats> okee_: 'mv file filewithnewname'
[20:43] <wawowe> okee_: edit the init file in /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server and change the command to dhcpd -c "your new conf"
[20:44] <wawowe> okee_: just the part after -c
[20:44] <jhutchins> wawowe: No.
[20:44] <iknowalittle> oerheks: 13.04 won't be supported anymore
[20:44] <jhutchins> wawowe: There are good reasons for retaining the standard configuration file name and location.
[20:45] <vicz> hey im thinking about installing ubunut on a new lenovo T440s, does anyone know if i can use wubi with either windows 8 or 7?
[20:45] <wawowe> jhutchins: why not? i know it won't stay like that if there's an upgrade but otherwise the best way to do it would be a link
[20:45] <jhutchins> okee_: I would copy the current file to a new name/location and then edit the original to suit.  That will preserve comments and explanations in the default file.
[20:45] <webfox> The log of sudo apt-get update is here : http://pastebin.com/jWaPd750
[20:46] <wawowe> okee_: jhutchins: cp old-conf old-conf.bak; rm old-conf && ln -s new-conf old-conf
[20:46] <jhutchins> wawowe: init files are not meant to be messed with.  If anything, they may have option files that can be used to pass options to the daemons, but it is best to stick as close to the defaults as possible,
[20:46] <iknowalittle> OerHeks: 13.04 support ends before 14.04
[20:46] <jhutchins> wawowe: That way in five years when you go back to work on the server again, you don't have to spend three hours figuring out what you did.
[20:46] <wawowe> jhutchins: how's my revision
[20:47] <OerHeks> iknowalittle, then you would need to do a fresh install
[20:47] <apatheticshp> yeats - no i haven't figured it out - still a little baffled why linux wouldn't see a hardware raid volume
[20:47] <wawowe> jhutchins: true, good point
[20:47] <OerHeks> iknowalittle, i would not risk upgrading VM's at all and do them fresh too.
[20:47] <yeats> apatheticshp: you're installing ubuntu desktop, yes?
[20:47] <apatheticshp> server
[20:48] <yeats> apatheticshp: hmm - then it should see the RAID okay
[20:48] <jhutchins> wawowe: I waste many hours following up after an admin who liked to obfuscate things.  I have become pretty good at forensic administration.
[20:48] <yeats> apatheticshp: you might check /var/log/dmesg for messages about that
[20:48] <basichash> How do I format my usb using terminal?
[20:48] <jhutchins> basichash: For what use?
[20:49] <iknowalittle> OerHeks: are you saying this because you know it? Or because you're assuming? this happened because of the oddity of the change of support length. 12.10 is supported until after 14.04 comes out, 13.04 isn't
[20:49] <yeats> !12.10
[20:49] <iknowalittle> OerHeks: They are just personal vm's(ubuntu server) and I really don't feel like rebuilding them, there is a bunch
[20:49] <jhutchins> !lts
[20:49] <iknowalittle> OerHeks:(if I don't need to)
[20:50] <OerHeks> iknowalittle, support as in update support, this wiki does not mention 12.10-14.04 lts > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:50] <yeats> iknowalittle: you wouldn't have to rebuild them
[20:50] <basichash> jhutchins: for a general system usb, both linux/windows
[20:50] <wawowe> jhutchins: this obfuscation could be an easy thing to figure out with ps. but you're right, in a large environment, it's best to stick to standard
[20:50] <OerHeks> seems like a death path 12.10
[20:50] <jhutchins> basichash: You'll want to keep it in whatever format it came with, probably FAT32 or NTFS.
[20:51] <iknowalittle> OerHeks: 14.04 isn't out yet, so no upgrades to it are mentioned yet
[20:51] <iknowalittle> yeats: I wouldn't have to rebuild them?
[20:51] <yeats> iknowalittle: using kvm for virtualizing?
[20:51] <wawowe> okee_: anyway, hope that helped
[20:52] <webfox> why does normally the server nameserver has the router IP and if I define this IP to be Google DNS it blocks the external communication?
[20:52] <iknowalittle> yeats: yes
[20:53] <basichash> jhutchins: do you know the command?
[20:53] <jpds> webfox: Because your firewall is likely blocking Google's DNS servers?
[20:53] <iknowalittle> yeats: that's actually why I'm on an odd distro, I wanted/needed some feature 12.04 didn't have
[20:53] <iknowalittle> yeats: I meant version, not distro :)
[20:53] <webfox> jpds: ubuntu Client has a firewall?
[20:53] <jpds> webfox: No, but your router probably has one.
[20:53] <webfox> Ubuntu*
[20:53] <jhutchins> basichash: I know several.  What format is it now?
[20:54] <yeats> iknowalittle: you can use 'virsh dumpxml <domainname>' for each machine, then just back up the images in /var/lib/libvirt/images somewhere along with the xml files
[20:54] <webfox> jpds: but it would be only blocking one system.
[20:54] <yeats> iknowalittle: then just move the images back into place on the reinstalled server, and do 'virsh define <domainname.xml>' for each machine
[20:54] <basichash> jhutchins: fat32
[20:54] <yeats> iknowalittle: there are probably other ways too, but that's one I've used
[20:55] <jhutchins> basichash: I would leave it that way.
[20:55] <apatheticshp> yeats is this because it's probabbly an HBA instead of true HW raid?
[20:55] <iknowalittle> yeats: Oh ya, that wouldn't be super hard. I have passthrough devices and such that I would have to play with as well. Arrays. All the good stuff(I hate migrating mdadm arrays). That is why an inplace upgrade would be nice.
[20:55] <yeats> iknowalittle: ok
[20:56] <basichash> jhutchins: ok thanks
[20:56] <wawowe> basichash: if you want to format it fat32, mkfs.vfat /dev/"your usb device"
[20:56] <jhutchins> basichash: If you need to reformat it for some reason, see  man mkfs.msdos
[20:56] <webfox> jpds: no, my router firewall is off.
[20:56] <genii> wawowe: With -F32
[20:57] <yeats> apatheticshp: if it's not hardware raid, then you should be able to setup md raid
[20:57] <wawowe> genii: is f16 default?
[20:57] <yeats> apatheticshp: but until you do, ubuntu will just see the component drives
[20:57] <jhutchins> basichash: Linux works well with Windows filesystems, Windows works only with Windows filesystems, so leaving it as-is is the best for Windows and will work just fine for Linux.
[20:58] <genii> wawowe: It *should* use whatever's appropriate for the media size. But if you specifically want fat32 no matter the media, it's the -F32 to specify
[20:58] <jhutchins> Again,  man mkfs.msdos
[20:58] <jhutchins> All is explained.
[20:58] <genii> Heh... "all will be revealed!"
[21:00] <apatheticshp> ext2ifs for windows
[21:02] <belkinsa> Is there a way to get global settings for Network Tablets such as GfxTablet?
[21:04] <nicferrier> can I ask an lxc question here? I've got lxc working nicely on my ubuntu 13 laptop... but a debian guest doesn't get a dhcp address. it just times out. ubuntu guests seem to work ok so the lxc bridge is set up correctly. anyone seen this problem?
[21:04] <yeats> nicferrier: sounds like a #debian issue
[21:07] <nicferrier> yeats: ok. I'm not sure. I was pretty surprised.
[21:08] <nicferrier> it's hard to debug... not sure if I can see network traffic on the host bridge from the guest
[21:08] <yeats> \
[21:10] <nicferrier> lxc-list --fancy shows no ip address for the debian guest. which makes sense. just not sure why it's dhcp is failing.
[21:10] <nicferrier> there's a an interface been created for the guest on the host as well.
[21:20] <okee_> when i run this command to specify the interface using this command i get this  " No command 'dhcpd3' found, did you mean:  Command 'dhcpd' from package 'isc-dhcp-server-ldap' (universe)  Command 'dhcpd' from package 'isc-dhcp-server' (main)  Command 'dhcpcd3' from package 'dhcpcd' (universe) dhcpd3: command not found "  ?
[21:20] <belkinsa> Is there a way to get global settings for Network Tablets such as GfxTablet?  Sorry for the repost.
[21:20] <okee_>  this is the command  ==> dhcpd3 -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid wlan0
[21:21] <HTSjanedoe> Hello team.
[21:22] <okee_> any idea how to fix it ??
[21:24] <okee_> when i run this command to specify the interface using this dhcpd3 -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid wlan0 command  i get this  " No command 'dhcpd3' found, did you mean:  Command 'dhcpd' from package 'isc-dhcp-server-ldap' (universe)  Command 'dhcpd' from package 'isc-dhcp-server' (main)  Command 'dhcpcd3' from package 'dhcpcd' (universe) dhcpd3: command not found "  ?
[21:24] <tomreyn> okee_: you probably want to run /usr/sbin/dhcpd from the isc-dhcp-server package
[21:24] <tomreyn> what are you trying to do anyways?
[21:24] <okee_>  <tomreyn> and how to do that ??
[21:25] <GivenToCode> is it possible to write a script in /etc/init.d to start a service in /etc/init?
[21:25] <tomreyn> okee_: you install that package, then, in your commandline, replace all occurrences of "dhcpd3" by "/usr/sbin/dhcpd"
[21:26] <GivenToCode> basically i am trying to modify an existing /etc/init.d/foo to call 'start my_service' but it appears from syslog my /etc/init.d/foo just keeps getting called over and over again
[21:26] <nicferrier> hum. I can even see the dhcp traffic arriving on the interface
 what package ??? i have already installed it
[21:27] <genii> GivenToCode: Although it might be possible there's already a  script in /etc/init which calls all the old sysvinit scripts in /etc/init.d
[21:27] <tomreyn> okee_: then skip this step and just run the modified command
[21:29] <genii> GivenToCode: So what will happen: the /etc/init script you want to run will get run at boot before the sysvinit ones get run from the upstart dir. Then the sysvinit one will get called and run again the script which was already run
 the command is dhcpd3 -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid wlan0 so it would be " /usr/sbin/dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid wlan0 ?? right ???
[21:30] <GivenToCode> genii, i dont have my /etc/init script configured to run at boot
[21:30] <tomreyn> okee_: yes, i was wrong when i said "all occurences", what you got now looks like what you want
[21:31] <genii> GivenToCode: If it's -x then how is the init.d one going to run it?
[21:31] <tomreyn> okee_: (but then i don't really know what you want)
   i get this  " Can't open /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf: Permission denied "
[21:31] <GivenToCode> genii, -x? in my init.d script i added 'start my_service' where i have /etc/init/my_service.conf
[21:31] <iknowalittle> okee_: sudo
[21:32] <genii> GivenToCode: Can you please pastebin both your /etc/init and /etc/init.d scripts? This way we can study the issue
 same problem
[21:33] <Cherir> hi , i just installed steam , and cs 1.6  ( not with wine )  but it crash  !! ?
[21:34] <iknowalittle> okee_: is that file in /etc/dhcp/
[21:34] <iknowalittle> okee: please use the name format start of message format I'm using, it highlights your message to whoever you're speaking to
[21:35] <tomreyn> okee_: i'll refrain from providing more support unless i have a clear idea of what you're trying to do, since at this point it's more likely you're doing something wrong than succeeding in what you are trying to achieve.
[21:35] <iknowalittle> okee_: tomryn probably has a point :)
[21:35] <iknowalittle> okee_: good luck
[21:36] <Jordan_U> Cherir: What graphics card and driver are you using?
[21:36] <Cherir> Jordan_U Nvidia GT 610
 I never used DHCP in ubuntu before I only want to undrestand how it works cause am stying network this year
[21:37] <duckspeaker> when doing a sudo service php5-fpm restart I get a [fail] with no explanation. php5-fpm log doesn't show anything. is there another error log I can check?
[21:37] <duckspeaker> trying to not have to comment everything out in the php5-fpm config and then gradually uncomment stuff
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Cherir: And you're using the proprietary drivers?
[21:38] <mark__> Rory: hey you around?
[21:39] <GivenToCode> genii, https://gist.github.com/danbeaulieu/a4f4196188ac81189260
[21:39] <negev> anyone here using an xps-13 that shipped with ubuntu?
[21:39] <GivenToCode> in my env USE_DOCKER=1 so that code path is being executed
[21:40] <GivenToCode> and i can tell from logging i inserted
[21:40] <user_> Why does writing to a usb slow down so much near the end?
  i sent you a screen shoot "
[21:41] <user_> WHY?
[21:42] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | Cherir
[21:42] <Cherir> ok
[21:43] <HTSjanedoe> Using Irssi is there way to filter the list results?
[21:44] <Pici> HTSjanedoe: don't use /list on freenode, use alis.
[21:44] <Pici> !alis | HTSjanedoe
[21:44] <Cherir> http://imagebin.org/294896
[21:44] <negev> i have a dell xps-13 which i think has a synaptics touchpad.  the touchpad is working but i have no multitouch. trying to run synclient from the commandline says no synaptics drivers are loaded.  anyone have any ideas?
[21:45] <negev> is there a way i can see what driver the trackpad is using?
[21:45] <HTSjanedoe> I did not know that, i will do some researchb=)
[21:46] <Cherir> Jordan_U ubottu http://imagebin.org/294896
[21:46] <GivenToCode> ah i got it
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Cherir: You're not using the proprietary driver then. Unfortunately, for gaming on Nvidia graphics cards you'll want to use the proprietary driver instead.
[21:49] <Cherir> which one i'll chose ? the 1st ?
[21:50] <Cherir> Jordan_U which one i'll chose ? the 1st ?
[21:52] <negev> does anyone know how to get multitouch working on a dell xps-13?
[21:52] <negev> it worked on the 3.5 kernel but after upgrading to 3.11 it doesn't wanna know
[21:52] <Jordan_U> Cherir: I'm not sure, but I would try nvidia-304 first.
[21:52] <jeremi> ice video about: how connect with ssh via TOR network...high anonymously  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRH1etWcbqA
[21:59] <quants> can anybody point me in the direction of an idiots guide to SSH?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> !ssh | quants
[22:00] <Gallomimia> hi. is anyone able to suggest to my why steam seems to tweak something in my system and then no longer run or start up properly? i usually need a reboot to fix it. hasn't been this bad in a long time
[22:00] <HTSjanedoe> Is there some where I can learn about the alias service?
[22:00] <Gallomimia> ubuntu 13.10 with kernel 3.12 amd gpu
[22:01] <John_John_> how to install node.js ? i have downloaded and extracted .tar in a folder. now what ?
[22:01] <Gallomimia> HTSjanedoe: alias is a feature of bash. the linux command line is a book you can download for free which has very informative lessons on it
[22:01] <quants> Jordan_U ubottu thanks
[22:02] <Jordan_U> quants: You're welcome. Note that ubottu is just a bot :)
[22:03] <Rory> ubottu is not *just* a bot :(
[22:03] <HTSjanedoe> Ok I thought it was IRC command
[22:03] <quants> Jordan_U oops, Note im also an Idiot lol
[22:04] <Gallomimia> alias from irc? uh.... not sure about that. certainly not on topic in #ubuntu
[22:04] <Seveas> HTSjanedoe: I think you mean 'alis'
[22:05] <Seveas> HTSjanedoe: and to learn more about alis just /msg alis help
[22:05] <Gallomimia> a quick google search shows me that alias's are a feature of mirc
[22:05] <Gallomimia> in the same way that they're a feature of bash.
[22:08] <raub> If I want to use the ntp provided by dhcp, do I first need to comment out the ones in ntp.conf?
[22:11] <hoihe> .
[22:12] <raub> hoihe: ;
[22:12] <hoihe> Somehow.. I turned my ubuntu screen into a black background with an awkward mouse pointer after pressing some buttons...
[22:12] <hoihe> Ouch
[22:14] <raub> hoihe: like a console or ?
[22:14] <hoihe> Sort of like a console, yes. Had to restart to get out of it with my knowledge.
[22:14] <hoihe> Was playing NWN2 with Wine when it happened...
[22:14] <hoihe> Did it before..
[22:14] <Seveas> raub: you shouldn't need to. The dhcp hook for ntp should update at least /etc/default/ntp for you iirc
[22:14] <raub> Maybe you pressed crtl-alt-F1?
[22:15] <raub> Seveas: I did fgrep server /ntp.conf and it shows the default ones.
[22:15] <raub> The dhclient.leases files does show the ntp servers provided by dhcp
[22:16] <raub> Seveas: and dhclient.conf has ntp-servers in its request
[22:17] <raub> It just feels like it does not like my ntp servers
[22:17] <negev> is 12.04.04 just a newer version of 12.04?  why are there no other point releases in between on the mirror sites?
[22:18] <raub> negev: yes
[22:18] <raub> a lot of times the mirrors only put out the latest
[22:18] <raub> which in this case is 12.04.04
[22:19] <guntbert> negev: only the latest one is needed
[22:19] <raub> Disk space and all of that
[22:19] <negev> so if i install 12.04 presumably i can then just dist-upgrade to 12.04.04??
[22:19] <raub> negev: if your install iso is pre 12.04.04, yet
[22:19] <raub> s/yes/yes/
[22:19] <negev> cool
[22:19] <negev> s/\?\?/\?  ;)
[22:19] <guntbert> negev: you can install 12.04.4 directly too
[22:20] <negev> yeah its just that i'm generating a dell recovery iso and i think it specifically wants 12.04
[22:20] <raub> I suck in regex
[22:20] <raub> negev: if you go and dl the iso, chances are ti wil be 12.04.04
[22:20] <negev> 12.04 and 12.04.04 were available
[22:20] <Jordan_U> negev: How are you generating a Dell recovery iso?
[22:20] <raub> the dell box will try to care less but fail
[22:20] <negev> i got 12.04 just to be safe
[22:21] <negev> using a dell recovery iso generator tool from dell :)
[22:21] <rufsketch1> Hello everyone
[22:21] <negev> actually i think it will just write it straight to the flash stick
[22:21] <raub> negev: that is what I would do
[22:22] <rufsketch1> How do I go about setting usb disks to mount automatically when plugged in regardless of user action?
[22:22] <raub> and then, if you feel bored, make a menu in the stick so you can select the install iso you want to use
[22:22] <rufsketch1> given that I don't know in advance what model the usb disk will be
[22:22] <BlessJah> hi
[22:22] <raub> rufsketch1: if you are talking about the ubuntu desktop, it should try to mount it automagically
[22:23] <BlessJah> where can i read reliable libreoffice vs openoffice comparision?
[22:23] <rufsketch1> raub, I am not talking about the desktop.
[22:23] <BlessJah> or, which one support ms office format better?
[22:24] <raub> rufsketch1: I guess it sdepends on what you want to do, but bottom line is if desktop can do, there is nothing stopping you from automounting usb media
[22:25] <raub> rufsketch1: I do not know how to enable that in ubuntu off the top of my head, only in Solaris. Which is why I mentioned the desktop as reference (to steal configs from;)
[22:25] <Jordan_U> BlessJah: Unfortunately there isn't really any catagory where one is clearly better than the other.
[22:25] <Beldar> BlessJah, " where can i read reliable libreoffice vs openoffice comparision?" Not a ubuntu issue, second question to many variables to answer exact.
[22:25] <Jordan_U> BlessJah: Libreoffice comes with Ubuntu, so from a support perspective it has that clear advantage.
[22:26] <rufsketch1> raub, I believe the desktop doesn't automagically mount until you actually click on the device
[22:26] <BlessJah> Jordan_U: i'm choosing for environment with mix of distros, so it'll be painful sometimes anyway
[22:26] <raub> BlessJah: everyone is biased. From what I understood, libreoffice originally came from openoffice because of licensing or copyright issues with oracle
[22:27] <raub> kinda like mongodb vs mysql
[22:27] <raub> or is it mariadb?
[22:28] <BlessJah> all google returns are posts written shortly after LO forked from OO
[22:28] <Jordan_U> BlessJah: Go with Libreoffice because its website is cooler :)
[22:28] <raub> rufsketch1: a quick and dirty solution is to monitor dmesg and then do some mounting
[22:28] <BlessJah> yep
[22:28] <raub> But, unfortunately, no clown sex
[22:29] <Jordan_U> !language | raub
[22:29] <BlessJah> Jordan_U: that's what management likes
[22:29] <BlessJah> charts, presentations and colors
[22:29] <BlessJah> thanks
[22:30] <raub> Well, lemme try my ntp theroy then
[22:33] <Texas> am i connected
[22:34] <trijntje> Texas: yes
[22:35] <raub> nope. Still ignoring the ntp provided by dhcp
[22:35] <Texas> I am having a slight issue. I recently installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop, and I cannot figure out how to connect to the internet. I probably do not have the drivers for my wlan card, but I should be able to just instert an ethernet cable from my router and look for the drive, but nothing happens when I do this. The internet is still unavailable. I have looked through forum after forum..
[22:35] <raub> So, out of 4 OS (ok, 2 of them are linux  distros), only centos is paying attention
[22:36] <raub> Texas: I only know how to help using command line
[22:36] <Texas> Im in terminal already, tell me what to do
[22:37] <raub> look in dmesg for the names of your ethenet and wireless cards
[22:37] <raub> Just to know if OS found them
[22:37] <raub> lscpi might show them too
[22:37] <raub> Also, chances are you are running network manager
[22:37] <TJ-> Texas: "lspci -knn | egrep -A3 'net|wire'
[22:38] <raub> TJ-: thank you!
[22:39] <TJ-> Texas: a slightly better version, will catch more "lspci -knn | egrep -iA2 'net|wire'
[22:39] <Texas> the marks around net|wire are the back ticks correct
[22:39] <Texas> ?
[22:39] <yeticry> how to download ubuntu 14.04 beta?
[22:39] <trijntje> !+1
[22:39] <TJ-> Texas: to check if network-manager is installed: "apt-cach policy network-manager"
[22:40] <yeticry> i can't found any link on offcial website.
[22:40] <TJ-> Texas: no, single-quotes
[22:40] <bodhi_zazen> yeticry: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[22:41] <Texas> im showing broadcom devices
[22:41] <Texas> which i should be
[22:42] <yeticry> xubuntu have daily-live version too?
[22:42] <TJ-> Can you copy that output to a USB stick and then pastebin it for us? The detail is very important, tells us the exact device
[22:42] <BlueProtoman> Why is my init process eating up so much CPU time in kernel space?
[22:42] <BlueProtoman> It's been doing so consistently for the past five minutes or so.  Literally more time is spent in the kernel than in user mode.
[22:42] <Texas> can i paste it here?
[22:43] <Seveas> !pastebin | Texas
[22:44] <bodhi_zazen> yeticry: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/ - and they have a new tool, google ;)
[22:44] <raub> bodhi_zazen: lmgify ?
[22:45] <SchrodingersScat> !google | bodhi_zazen
[22:45] <jje> Results for | bodhi_zazen on Google:
[22:45] <jje> --
[22:46] <Texas> here we go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6973569/
[22:47] <raub> To use /etc/ntp.conf.dhcp can I just touch it and it will be populated?
[22:47] <Runemoro> Hi, I'm having a bug with tmux... Whenever I select text(in mouse select mode) in a window pane  a base 64 encoding of the text appears in the window pane to the right... This is extremely annoying, how can I fix it?
[22:48] <Seveas> !google | ubuntu
[22:48] <jje> Results for | ubuntu on Google:
[22:48] <jje> --
[22:48] <Seveas> !ops | rogue bot named jje
[22:48] <Icehawk78> I'm having an issue connecting my TV to my desktop. I've got a radeon card and am using open source drivers, but when my computer starts to load Ubuntu, it only shows a black screen (the bios displays without issue, though). Connecting a different monitor over DVI (rather than HDMI) works, though. Any suggestions?
[22:49] <Texas> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6973569/
[22:50] <Beldar> Icehawk78, Try a nomodeset boot than from that low graphics mode get the desktop drivers set.
[22:50] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Icehawk78
[22:52] <raub> Texas: does this help any? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2115659
[22:52] <Icehawk78> Beldar: I've tried adding nomodeset to the kernel, which does display, but I'm unsure of how to get the Radeon drivers to load afterwards
[22:52] <TJ-> Texas: "ifconfig -a" ... does that report any interfaces? If so, can you do the same again (pastebin) please?
[22:52] <en1gma> i just installed 13.06 ubuntu desktop. i thought they were switching that bar on the side to be back like gnome used to be
[22:53] <en1gma> i hate that thing
[22:53] <TJ-> Texas: Ignore the "lo" interface... we're interested in any eth* or wlan* or similar
[22:53] <terinjokes> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_3.2.0-58.88_amd64.deb fails with a 404 from IP 91.189.92.200
[22:53] <en1gma> any "easy way" to make it look ole school
[22:53] <Beldar> Icehawk78, Than that is the issue, just stating a black screen when you know the nomodeset use is not accurate, state the radeon hardware and what you know works and have tried.
[22:54] <Beldar> to the channel as well ot me
[22:55] <Beldar> not*
[22:56] <Beldar> en1gma, Be more clear as to what you want for a desktop.
[22:56] <Icehawk78> Beldar: Ah, sorry. I'm not very familiar with graphics issues, my last TV didn't have any issues connecting.
[22:56] <en1gma> in previous versions of ubuntu its something "rollback"
[22:57] <en1gma> what did ubuntu 10 have
[22:57] <Beldar> Icehawk78, I read your first post as the desktop has a black screen, be really clear is all. lspci in the terminal should give radeon info needed here.
[22:57] <raub> en1gma: have you considered changing the desktop environment thingie?
[22:57] <raub> I use this one in my laptop: http://lxde.org/
[22:57] <en1gma> there is an "easy way" :) where is it located
[22:57] <wiebels> Weird file transfer issue with NAS server; unstable transfer rate that varies between 100MB/s and 6 MB/s. Both over network and even when transfering from NAS Disk -> NAS SSD. I suspect a SATA driver issue; any experience with such problem?
[22:58] <Beldar> en1gma, There is a pseudo gnome 2 fall back desktop.
[22:58] <en1gma> im in windows right now. how do i do it
[22:58] <en1gma> i couldnt get my net working but it was working fine during the install
[22:58] <en1gma> i need to reboot but i could have problems
[22:59] <Beldar> en1gma, There is no 13.06 is it 13.04 or 13.10 you have to be accurate here.
[23:00] <en1gma> 13.10 sounds good to me
[23:00] <raub> wiebels: which NAS (Synology, DS8000, etc)? Did you check for network issues, including packet sizes? How you are testing?
[23:00] <en1gma> i think i had 13.06
[23:00] <Beldar> en1gma, sounds good?
[23:00] <en1gma> i thought you were asking me what i wanted. i got latest one off unetbootin
[23:00] <Beldar> en1gma, There is no 13.06
[23:00] <raub> en1gma: lsb_release -a will answer Beldar's question
[23:01] <wiebels> raub it is a DIY build definitely not network issue as it also occurs when writing from NAS SSD To NAS RAID drive
[23:01] <Bray90820> So the white ballance is to high on ubuntu
[23:01] <en1gma> im in windows
[23:01] <wiebels> raub i verified this with a pv transfer through terminal
[23:02] <Icehawk78> I'm connecting to a TV over HDMI, and have got an ATI RV620 card. When I installed the fglrx drivers, I got a display but complaints from programs like XBMC that no valid drivers are loaded, with the system info showing "fallback experience" for graphics. When I removed those, and added 'nomodeset' to my kernel settings, I got a display, but was using the VESA drivers, which also don't appear to be providing any hardware accelerat
[23:02] <raub> wiebels: there is a lot of things to consider. I do not even know if disk alignment in SSD is still an issue
[23:02] <Beldar> en1gma, http://slick.pl/kb/linux/install-gnome-session-fallback-ubuntu-13-10-13-04-12-10-12-04/
[23:02] <en1gma> thnx just added it to my favs
[23:03] <wiebels> raub what would your first "guess" be? I suspect it is a SATA driver issue
[23:03] <Owen> does anybody here know how to fix monitor problems???
[23:03] <raub> Owen: soldering iron and capacitor time?
[23:03] <Beldar> !anyone | Owen
[23:04] <Owen> everytime i turn off my monitor (a vizio 22 inc tv
[23:04] <wiebels> raub fyr; it is a 2x1TB 4GB system with a 64GB SSD and intel celeron 1037U
[23:04] <Owen> i loose about 1 inch on each side
[23:04] <Beldar> Owen, All in one post please.
[23:05] <Beldar> gets lost easily otherwise
[23:05] <Owen> evertime i turn my monitor off i loose about an inch on each the sides
[23:05] <Bray90820> Why would the white bsllance be way to high on ubuntu
[23:05] <en1gma> thnx for info
[23:05] <en1gma> bbiab
[23:06] <high_fiver> does 13.10 introduce SSD trim to some degree?
[23:06] <raub> wiebels: I think I would use something like hdparm, smartctl, and bonnie++ to do some look-see
[23:07] <raub> wiebels: check those tools out. I just feel the sata drivers nowadays are not as shabby as they used to be
[23:07] <hussein_> How can i connect to wireless through terminal ?
[23:08] <wiebels> raub thanks, I already disabled hdparm on disks. In addition I just tested SSD -> SSD and Disk -> Disk on NAS; same issue!
[23:08] <Jordan_U> high_fiver: What do you mean "introduce"? TRIM has been available in Ubuntu since before 13.10.
[23:08] <raub> wiebels: I am really hard pressed to point my filthy finger at that
[23:09] <raub> wiebels: I would want to see SSD test against itself if I were in your shoes. And then spinny disk
[23:09] <wiebels> raub thanks, will start looking at bonnie++ smartctl not installed as it does not work very well with my samsung spinpoints
[23:09] <Owen> raub, evertime i turn my monitor off i loose about an inch on each the sides and it messes up the contrast
[23:10] <raub> wiebels: there has to be something that will do the trick. I know for instance that arecas can be a XXXXX in the XXX to let you probulate the physical HD
[23:10] <GH0> Is there a list of wireless cards that can support Ad-Hoc or AP mode? I have an Intel Ultimate 5300 N that doesn't seem to be showing up on other devices ,even though I have setup AdHoc mode on the ubuntu laptop.
[23:10] <raub> And they know I know
[23:10] <raub> Owen: any funy noises from monitor?
[23:11] <Owen> raub: no
[23:13] <high_fiver> Jordan_U, I suppose what I mean is was what is there currently available for 13.10 users - ie fstrim
[23:14] <Bray90820_> How would i change the white balance on ubuntu
[23:15] <high_fiver> Jordan_U, does fstrim run periodically
[23:15] <Jordan_U> high_fiver: You can use fstrim, and you can also enable trim in the mount options for your filesystem so that newly freed space is immediately trimmed (though that can cause slowdows on some drives that don't implement trim efficiently).
[23:15] <Jordan_U> high_fiver: Not automatically, no. You could setup a cron job to run fstrim periodically though.
[23:16] <high_fiver> Jordan_U, trimmed when, upon mount?
[23:17] <Jordan_U> high_fiver: For the mount option, or for the cron job?
[23:17] <astropirate> guys
[23:18] <high_fiver> Jordan_U, the mount option
[23:18] <astropirate> what the fuck is u p with ubuntu firefox modificiations? it makes a popup for every single site, whether I want to add it to ubuntu or not. SOOO ANNOYTING
[23:18] <IdleOne> astropirate: please mind the language
[23:19] <Jordan_U> high_fiver: For the mount option trim is litterally run every time space is freed, so every time you unlink (rm) a file, or make a large file smaller via truncation.
[23:19] <astropirate> IdleOne, which one?
[23:19] <IdleOne> astropirate: no swearing please
[23:19] <astropirate> ohhh
[23:19] <astropirate> ok
[23:19] <astropirate> IdleOne, but how do I remove this stupid thing from my firefox? what is ubuntu thinking??
[23:19] <high_fiver> Jordan_U, fstrim + cronjobs every so often seems like a good solution
[23:20] <Beldar> astropirate, popups are generally flash, can you be specific on the popups, and there is a a flash block addon called noscript.
[23:20] <high_fiver> Jordan_U, dont suppose you can point me to some doc's, i presume this is the same method 14.04 will implement as 'default'
[23:20] <Jordan_U> astropirate: I don't get any popups when I use Firefox, so this seems to be a problem specific to your machine/configuration. Could you provide a screenshot of this popup so that we can try to determine where it's coming from?
[23:20] <high_fiver> *doc's = website
[23:20] <Bray90820_> How would i cnage the whiet ballance in ubuntu
[23:20] <high_fiver> Jordan_U, *docs=website
[23:20] <astropirate> Beldar, its not a popup, its a  firefox notification on top left corner of firefox
[23:20] <astropirate> to add the site as an ubuntu app or something
[23:21] <efioawjf> http://www.naked-riley.com/?ref=f3401e253abbea46f4eb
[23:21] <efioawjf> http://www.naked-riley.com/?ref=f3401e253abbea46f4ebhttp://www.naked-riley.com/?ref=f3401e253abbea46f4eb
[23:21] <efioawjf> http://www.naked-riley.com/?ref=f3401e253abbea46f4eb
[23:21] <efioawjf> http://www.naked-riley.com/?ref=f3401e253abbea46f4eb
[23:21] <efioawjf> http://www.naked-riley.com/?ref=f3401e253abbea46f4eb
[23:21] <efioawjf> http://www.naked-riley.com/?ref=f3401e253abbea46f4eb
[23:21] <Beldar> astropirate, Get a screenshot a s suggested
[23:21] <astropirate> Beldar, yes wait a sec pleasee
[23:22] <high_fiver> Jordan_U, for the mount option
[23:22] <high_fiver> Jordan_U, but as it stands 13.10 isn't using trim
[23:23] <Jordan_U> high_fiver: The blueprint for what will be done in 14.04 is here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-ssd-trimming , and it looks like their planning to have a cron job run fstrim periodically rather than using the "discard" mount option (since the discard mount option can slow down all deletion opterations with some drives).
[23:23] <Owen> Bray90820_: check this site out http://askubuntu.com/questions/175032/how-to-adjust-monitor-color-balance-with-open-source-radeon-drivers
[23:23] <high_fiver> Jordan_U, excellent, thanks for that
[23:24] <Jordan_U> high_fiver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim is also a nice overview.
[23:24] <Jordan_U> high_fiver: You're welcome.
[23:27] <dudemelo> What is the most recommended mail server?
[23:28] <olivier__> need help! my wifi adapter won't turn on!!
[23:28] <Beldar> dudemelo, depends on who you ask, not really a ubuntu support question as is.
[23:29] <Beldar> olivier__, Identify the hardware to the channel, if internal lspci if external lsusb in the terminal.
[23:31] <olivier__> l<Beldar> internal i got a Dell latitude D510
[23:31] <Beldar> olivier__,  Identify the hardware to the channel, if internal lspci
[23:31] <Beldar> in the terminal
[23:32] <Bray90820_> Owen: Thank you that worked
[23:32] <Beldar> olivier__, The computer is not enough the exacvt hardware foir wifi is needed
[23:32] <Beldar> exact*
[23:32] <TJ-> astropirate: What you're seeing is a Unity webapp wanting to install
[23:32] <buckeatstoast> Hey Guys! I need some help
[23:33] <Beldar> buckeatstoast, don't we all, state it please
[23:33] <olivier__> Beldar Network Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02)
[23:33] <TJ-> astropirate: see http://developer.ubuntu.com/web/tutorial/
[23:33] <Beldar> !broadcom | olivier__
[23:33] <buckeatstoast> Well Im trying to install vsftpd and its not working
[23:33] <astropirate> TJ-, what were they thinking making it pop up on every site I visit?
[23:33] <astropirate> and how do I disable it
[23:34] <TJ-> astropirate: It only should show for sites that have webapps
[23:34] <astropirate> hmm that explains it
[23:34] <astropirate> i went to reddit, facebook, youtube and it showed up on all of them
[23:34] <TJ-> Yes, there've all got webapps
[23:35] <buckeatstoast> Ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/6973763/ is what it tells me when I try sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[23:35] <olivier__> Beldar yes but most of the command don't work
[23:36] <Beldar> olivier__, Broadcom is out of my area of knowledge, is this ubuntu?
[23:37] <olivier__> Beldar Xubuntu
[23:37] <TJ-> astropirate: If you want to stop it you can uninstall the webapp service. Check what's installed with "dpkg-query -l unity-webapps-*"
[23:37] <Beldar> olivier__, Most of the commands not working means nothing, you have to give details and errors in a pastebin is the best, all to the channel not me.
[23:37] <astropirate> TJ-, thank you good sir/ma'am
[23:38] <cypher-neo> olivier__, Open your Terminal and type: "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"
[23:38] <Beldar> olivier__, Make sure you read the wiki carefully it seems quite straight forward, address what is confusing if so.
[23:39] <cypher-neo> olivier__, That is the correct command for your Broadcom modem
[23:39] <Bray90820_> Owen: Now that i play around with it a little bit i can see that it helped but there is still WAY to much white
[23:40] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: do you already have an ICC profile for your monitor?
 i wish
[23:40] <Bray90820_> Its like there is a white overlay on the screen
[23:40] <Bray90820_> And yes i do have a profile
[23:41] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: than you can load the .icc file at startup using xcalib
[23:42] <Bray90820_> glitsj16: what i am saying is that there is to much white in that profile and i can't seem to fix it
[23:42] <buckeatstoast> Can anyone help me with http://paste.ubuntu.com/6973763/
[23:45] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: without colorimeter it's always going to be an approximation .. have you tried agryll or any other software tool yet?
[23:45] <glitsj16> s/egryll/argyll
[23:45] <Bray90820_> I have not
[23:46] <Beldar> buckeatstoast, What is with the 113 not upgraded are these broken, or did you do a partial update?
[23:47] <wxl> hey folks. i seem to get to the point where i'm about to get a display manager (i see the mouse pointer) and the screen blanks. repeats over and over. get issues about acpid in syslog. couldn't find useful settings in bios. acpi=off on boot didn't help. i'm thinking i might have a video driver issue. i've got a VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter. i have xserver-xorg-video-sis inst
[23:48] <Beldar> buckeatstoast, Run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin all of it before running the install with y=yes or n=no
[23:48] <Bray90820_> glitsj16: what i am trying to tell you is that xrandr is not at all what i need
[23:48] <Bray90820_> I need to fix the contrast
[23:50] <Jordan_U> wxl: If there is any way to replace that SiS card with anything else, do so.
[23:51] <high_fiver> can anyone recommend a better power management package to laptop-mode-tools
[23:52] <wxl> Jordan_U: i can't entirely say that's useful. would you care to elaborate on your experience and possible solutions assuming it must stay?
[23:53] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: i never mentioned xrandr, xcalib is a program to load ICC profiles, dispcalGUI http://dispcalgui.hoech.net/ is a very nice tool but it assumes you have access to a colorimeter iirc, and there's gnome-color-manager to produce an ICC profile
[23:53] <z1haze> can someone please help me out? i dont know the proper term for what im trying to do, but i have virtual host files, and im trying to set one of them to work with my servers ip currently, until im ready to switch my domain over
[23:54] <Bray90820_> glitsj16: sotty my mistake
[23:54] <cypher-neo> olivier,
[23:55] <high_fiver> or just the best (in ur exp) power management tool for laptops
[23:55] <z1haze> for a virtual host if i want to use the ip of my server, what do i ender for the Sername and alias?
[23:56] <Beldar> high_fiver, Best is an opinion, there is not much really except for on board, and whats in the kernel, battery controls are mostly reverse engineered due to no vendor support in linux.
[23:56] <Beldar> high_fiver, the highest use in general I think is the backlight as well.
[23:57] <Beldar> depends on what you're doing really for the highset use
[23:57] <Beldar> highest*
[23:57] <high_fiver> Beldar, ok, cool that does help, i guess its a case of conserving ie lightum
[23:58] <Bray90820_> glitsj16: how would i make the profile active
[23:58] <Beldar> high_fiver, It is a tough area, when I have needed to use a battery I just buy one that has the highest use support.
[23:59] <z1haze> mmm
[23:59] <Jordan_U> wxl: My experience is that SiS drivers are orders of magnitude worse than any other drivers I've encountered, I was able to get full resolution on one once because I was lucky enough that my native resolution was avaialble via VESA. No acceleration (2D or 3D). I wouldn't wich my experience on anyone else.