[02:19] <xubuntu955> Hi. Congrats guys, this is awesome :)
[02:19] <Unit193> Glad you like it.
[02:21] <xubuntu955> Yes. I'm trying to make my USB key bootable (the one with the OS, not the installer)... Have tried with acronis AFTER install but it gave me MBR errors :(
[02:29] <xubuntu136> I can't delete adobe files
[02:29] <xubuntu136> I stupidliy dowloaded flash and now I can't delete a load of files from their usr/share/cmap location
[02:29] <sleezio> hello, can someone recommend a text editor capable of opening a 16M text file? i thought for sure Kate would, but it won't(nor will gedit)
[02:30] <xubuntu136> no sorry
[02:31] <xubuntu136> do u know how to aggressively remove unwanted files?
[02:31] <sleezio> xubuntu136, have you tried opening thunar  with sudo(terminal)?
[02:31] <xubuntu136> no
[02:31] <xubuntu136> would that work?
[02:32] <sleezio> open terminal, type: sudo thunar
[02:32] <sleezio> enter password, go delete
[02:33] <sleezio> bah, the one utility i miss from windows...ultraedit
[02:34] <xubuntu136> yeah D: adobe's such a douche
[02:34] <sleezio> flashblock(firefox) addon helps
[02:35] <sleezio> no one can suggest a powerful text editor other than KAte and gedit?
[02:36] <xubuntu136> cream?
[02:37] <xubuntu136> jedit?
[02:37] <sleezio> i'll give them a shot
[02:37] <xubuntu136> emacs
[02:37] <xubuntu136> vim n nano
[02:38] <fibz_> +1 for vim
[02:39] <sleezio> gvim the same as vim?
[02:40] <fibz_> never heard of gvim
[02:40] <xubuntu136> neither
[02:40] <sleezio> vim w/ gnome gui
[02:40] <fibz_> just use nano or gedit
[02:40] <sleezio> eh, installing it, i'll give it a shot
[02:41] <sleezio> gedit frezzes halfway through the file load(16M)
[02:41] <sleezio> *ee
[02:41] <fibz_> k
[02:41] <xubuntu136> can adobe still reveal ur ip if you go on tor if its not uploaded to mozilla but you still have the files on ur system??
[02:42] <sleezio> xubuntu136, you should look into the flashblock addon, it won't let any flash load unless you click(allow) it
[02:42] <xubuntu136> thanks
[02:44] <xubuntu136> awesome! u're a star been messing about with trying to delete those for ages
[02:44] <xubuntu136> stubborn bastards
[02:45] <sleezio> bah, gvim froze as well
[02:48] <sleezio> hmm..now i'm wondering if possibly the file is corupt
[02:51] <zack123> hello
[02:51] <zack123> can someone help me install kali without vbox
[02:51] <zack123> ???
[02:52] <holstein> zack123: maybe a kali support channel
[02:52] <holstein> !kali
[02:52] <holstein> zack123: the installer will be similar, if not the same as ubuntu's.. but, its not supported here
[02:52] <zack123> i was baned for idk what
[02:52] <holstein> !ban
[02:52] <IdleOne> we can't help with kali. you will need to talk to the kali ops for that
[02:53] <zack123> i left my pc on last night with xchat on could that be the reason
[02:53] <sleezio> isn't kali a hacker type setup of linux?
[02:53] <zack123> where are kali ops at
[02:53] <zack123> yes it is
[02:54] <holstein> zack123: ask at one of the linkx provided above.. this channel is *not* for kali support
[02:54] <zack123> #linux-ops
[02:54] <zack123> ??
[02:55] <fibz_> if your having problems with kali, just make a new one. you shouldnt be using kali as a desktop OS
[02:55] <sleezio> zack: #kali-linux
[02:56] <zack123> im not i just want the os and ubuntu off my pc
[02:56] <zack123> i was baned sleezo
[02:56] <fibz_> so you want ##windows ?
[02:56] <holstein> zack123: then, just install it.. ask in an appropriate support channel, or in the #xubuntu-offtopic channel
[02:56] <zack123> no kali-linux
[02:56] <holstein> zack123: what you are doing now is why you were likely banned
[02:57] <kondor1001> got an old lappy today :)
[02:57] <holstein> zack123: i have asked you not to inquire about kali here. please stop and go to the offtopic channel, or to kali support
[02:57] <kondor1001> do the alpha guys have a channel, or hang here?
[03:00] <holstein> kondor1001: alpha?
[03:01] <kondor1001> current alpha2 14.04
[03:01] <holstein> !14.04
[03:01] <kondor1001> lol
[03:02] <kondor1001> just wanted to know how the installer was going,  might have a coffee and then fire it up
[03:05] <kondor1001> i found it,  #xubuntu-devel i think
[03:06] <sleezio> bah, i guess my file is corrupt, oh well
[03:06] <holstein> kondor1001: ?
[03:06] <holstein> kondor1001: #ubuntu+1 is actually a good place to go for 14.04
[03:55] <itai> hi, i would like thunderbird to open pptx with libre office but it is now set  to another application by default, the 'open with' dialogue doesn't offer libre office , it gives me the option of adding it , but i dont know where to find it...o
[03:56] <holstein>  /usr/bin ?
[03:56] <holstein>  /usr/bin/libreoffice works for me
[03:59] <itai> holstein, I dont have libreoffice in /usr/bin
[03:59] <itai> oh, sorry ,i do,.,
[03:59] <itai> it works, thanks
[04:00] <holstein> itai: cheers
[04:02] <tgm4883_> Is there a list of new stuff for 14.04?
[04:40] <Belial`> tgm4883_, right off the bat things i've noticed are sync to vblank in compositer settings
[04:40] <Belial`> and there's a screenlocker that uses the login now instead of the ugliness from before.
[04:40] <Belial`> xscreensaver or whatever.
[04:41] <Belial`> the vsync is a little flaky
[04:41] <Belial`> i just had to restart the compositer for it to work.
[04:41] <Unit193> s/xscreensaver/light-locker/
[04:42] <Belial`> light locker was the previous lock screen?
[04:42] <Unit193> New one.
[04:42] <Belial`> ah ok
[04:42] <Belial`> yeah, it's a lot nicer.
[04:42]  * Unit193 didn't have a problem with the old one.
[04:43] <Belial`> it worked
[06:06] <delt> hello
[06:07] <fibz_> hi
[06:07] <delt> what is the quicket way to update grub boot loader after a windowz fuckup.........
[06:07] <delt> ie. windows decided to reinstall and clobber my MBR
[06:08] <fibz_> sudo apt-get grub update
[06:08] <delt> from the live-cd?
[06:08] <fibz_> sudo apt-get update grub
[06:08] <fibz_> yeah or you can install boot-repair
[06:09] <delt> apt-get needs an internet connectionn right?
[06:09] <fibz_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:09] <fibz_> yes
[06:09] <fibz_> well it should use the live USB repo actually
[06:09] <delt> i just want to rewrite my MBF, not connect to a network
[06:09] <delt> i just want to rewrite my MBR, not connect to a network
[06:10] <fibz_> without internet, it will use the update grub from the live USB repo
[06:12] <delt> boot interrupted when trying to run from the CDD. after ending up in a basic environment, tried running "update-grub" ...no success :(
[06:14] <ruien> delt: I think i've done what you are referring to, but it may or may not be exactly the same. GRUB should be able to do it, but you need to give it options about which drive and such to install to, and where the root is. I think there are some options in the manpage or some examples online for that
[06:14] <ruien> i remember having to mount my linux partition and chroot into it, I think, then do the grub stuff?
[06:14] <Sysi> !grub2
[06:15] <delt> anyway what i want to know is, what's the simplest way to boot from the live/install cd and rewrite my MBR
[06:15] <delt> ruien: yeah i tried that :/
[06:16] <Sysi> mount your root partition and then run grub-instaöö with correct options
[06:16] <Sysi> as specified in that factoid
[06:16] <Sysi> (chroot didn't work for me)
[06:17] <delt> faaackk this is so simple with lilo!!!!!
[06:18] <ruien> delt: I used to have to do this a lot before, but haven't used windows at all since 12.04 release, so I forgot. I bet if you can give us some pastes of what you're seeing we can help you work it out.
[06:19] <delt> oh speaking of which i'm on a slackware partition right now
[06:19] <delt> ruien: you have a computer. with a broken boot record.
[06:20] <delt> ruien: and you have a CD with ubuntu on it.
[06:20] <delt> ruien: fix. how??
[06:21] <ruien> i've never had a broken boot record except because of windows, so i haven't had a broken boot record for over two years, so I forgot. I can't really break my workstation to figure it out, but if i see what you're seeing I'm sure it'll come back to me.
[06:23] <delt> i DO NOT want to reinstall ubuntu to a dummy partition, just to have grub fix my mbr.
[06:24] <ruien> err.. who said you'd have to do that? Pretty sure you can fix it right from the liveCD.
[06:24] <delt> EXACTLY what i'm trying to do
[06:30] <delt> ok, just tried again with lilo from this slackware partition...
[07:02] <xubuntu051> Hi
[07:03] <genii> xubuntu051: Hello! Please just state your Xubuntu question to the channel and then see if someone is around who may assist
[07:03] <genii> Hm. Kids these days, no patience.
[07:11]  * Noskcaj still believes we need a bot to respond to "hi", "hello", "can anyone help me"
[07:12] <fibz_> i agree
[07:12] <fibz_> whole heartedly
[07:13] <Golynx> Noskcaj: should i greet the bot back ?
[07:13] <elfy> no
[07:13] <Noskcaj> lol
[07:14] <Golynx> hmm, then people will strt to ask the bot their questions and get upset at the bot for not responding
[07:14] <Golynx> start*
[07:14] <Noskcaj> good point
[07:15] <Sysi> !hi
[07:16] <Sysi> hum, which one says it's a bot
[07:16] <genii> Sometimes when i greet users like that they go something like: Thank you friendly bot!
[07:16] <genii> ( or similar)
[07:20] <Golynx> Sysi: so when a client enters they have to do -->!hi to get the bot to respond?
[07:20] <genii> ubottu: Hello
[07:20] <Golynx> I think Noskcaj meant it should be automatic
[07:21] <Noskcaj> yep
[07:21] <Sysi> that could work
[07:21] <Sysi> though people probably eould ignore it saying it's a bot
[07:23] <Golynx> or you can just put in the room topic "Hi and welcome to xubuntu!"
[07:25] <genii> About 0.001% of people read room topics
[07:26] <Golynx> genii: about 99.998% of the time its the first thing they see in the room
[07:28] <Noskcaj> Golynx, yes, but paying to it attention is rare
[07:31] <Golynx> Noskcaj: thats true , but the subconsious mind will pick up the "Hi and welcome to xubuntu!" instantly even though the clients eyes is focused on messages text below that.
[07:31] <elfy> anyway - this should all be in -ooftopic really
[07:31] <bazhang> oof
[07:32] <Golynx> yes elfy it should be a footopic
[07:32] <bazhang> !ot | Golynx
[07:33] <Golynx> bazhang: i know :/
[07:33] <bazhang> Golynx, so please take it there
[07:33] <Golynx> no thanks
[11:23] <mawty> Hi, I was wondering if I could have some help with a question. I just moved over to Xubuntu and I was wondering if there was a simple way to configure the panel for dual monitors much in the same way it operates in Windows 8? Where the open applications on one monitor show on its respective panel
[11:25] <Sysi> have a panel with window buttons on both monitors, set window buttons to only show windows of that monitor
[11:25] <mawty> I'm not sure how I didn't see that checkbox the first time xD
[11:26] <mawty> Thanks a bunch!
[11:26] <Sysi> no problem
[14:11] <Nightfly> Hello, i have a big probelm with xubuntu ?
[14:11] <Nightfly> Can anyone try to help me ?
[14:11] <GridCube> !ask | Nightfly
[14:13] <Nightfly> Okay, my english is very bad, because i live in Germany. I tried to install the NVIDIA Driver instead of Nouveau. But, when the PC boots, it needs about 30 seconds to have an x-screen.
[14:13] <knome> !de | Nightfly
[14:14] <knome> (though your english is fine, and feel free to ask on this channel)
[14:14] <Nightfly> thank You and have a nice day
[14:17] <Nightfly> sorry, no one knows this problem in the German Channels
[14:17] <knome> is there any reason to use the proprietary driver?
[14:17] <knome> eg. is there any problems with nouveau
[14:18] <Nightfly> No !Nouveau works fine
[14:19] <knome> okay... then you should use nouveau
[14:20] <knome> why would you want to use a proprietary driver over an open source driver, if there's no problems with the latter?
[14:20] <Nightfly> Many people say, NVIDIA knows there Hardware better than other people
[14:21] <knome> well that's a given, they produced it
[14:21] <SirLagz> Nightfly: of course they would...they designed it
[14:21] <knome> but as the saying goes... "don't fix it, if it isn't broken"
[14:21] <SirLagz> i break that rule all the time
[14:21] <SirLagz> hence why things break :D
[14:21] <Nightfly> I will choose noueveau, because a frozen Screen is nonsens
[14:22] <knome> Nightfly, that you should do. have fun!
[14:23] <Nightfly> Than You very much for Your help and i will have fun. XP need about 3 minutes to boot teh PC Xubuntu abouet 30 sekonds with the noeuveau driver
[14:23] <knome> Nightfly, that's nice to hear
[14:24] <Nightfly> I wish everybody for the future the very, very best, if i get problems i will come back, if You allow it ?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> Nightfly, of course
[14:25] <Nightfly> Thank You very very much and bve ! Greetings form Germany to England, USA and so on CU
[15:05] <leguaani> can anyone here help with nvidia drivers?
[15:06] <leguaani> or know where i should ask
[15:06] <holstein> !nvidia | leguaani
[15:06] <holstein> here is where you can ask
[15:07] <leguaani> i did install them already, actually tried a few
[15:07] <holstein> a few what?
[15:07] <leguaani> but the problem is the "powermizer" thing is broken and fan is running full speed
[15:07] <leguaani> different versions of drivers.
[15:07] <holstein> sure, and it may not be supported
[15:08] <leguaani> so theres no way to change the power state?
[15:08] <holstein> leguaani: its all open on this end, so there is always a way
[15:09] <holstein> leguaani: ideally, nvidia will provide you, or their driver, or linux a way to interface with the hardware they have created that you have purchased
[15:09] <holstein> if they havent, then, sometimes, compromises will need to be made
[15:09] <leguaani> oops, sorry I should have mentioned this is a old laptop
[15:09] <holstein> i would say, the first step would be to look for documentation for your specific hardware and ubuntu
[15:10] <leguaani> so I would not expect much much support from nvidia
[15:10] <holstein> you can also try the main ubuntu community, since this is not specifically related to xfce or xubuntu, and there is no constructive reason to limit your search here
[15:11] <leguaani> they didn't seem interested, also I thought it could be window manager related
[15:11] <holstein> i would get specifics about the hardware model and share those.. occasionally, on older machines, i'll try an older release.. or, i'll just use the vesa driver
[15:11] <holstein> leguaani: try another window manager if you feel it is..
[15:11] <leguaani> it's geforce fx5200m
[15:12] <holstein> leguaani: the issue is, others have problems with nvidia as you mention.. the window manager is pretty well suported and tested
[15:12] <leguaani> I was just seeking another opinion, in case I'm being stupid
[15:12] <leguaani> ok.
[15:12] <holstein> leguaani: the vesa driver is always an option
[15:13] <leguaani> but my main problem is ear splitting fan noise, so I don't really care what driver I'm using if I could lower the power state?
[15:13] <holstein> leguaani: have you tried the vesa driver?
[15:13] <leguaani> do you been the default driver in xubuntu (sorry I'm quite new to this)
[15:14] <holstein> leguaani: no.. i mean the vesa driver
[15:14] <holstein> leguaani: the default in xubuntu for that hardware will be the open nvidia driver
[15:15] <holstein> leguaani: then, there is the proprietary one in the repos, and a newer one you can get from the nvidia site (likely newer) and the ppa version fom xswat
[15:15] <holstein> leguaani: then, you can try the vesa driver
[15:15] <holstein> !vesa
[15:15] <leguaani> ok, I have only used the open nvidia one and few versions of proprietary one.
[15:16] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 is a sample one
[15:16] <leguaani> uhh, sorry but what are the !things?
[15:16] <holstein> i would just drop it in, and not bother with the resolution settings.. just test the driver and the fan noise issue you are trying to address
[15:16] <holstein> leguaani: the !things are information from the bot.. about !vesa for example
[15:17] <leguaani> okay that should have been obvious :D
[15:17] <holstein> leguaani: i mention it because i have the *exact* same issue on a via chip.. i use the open chrome driver now, but, years back, i chose to use the vesa driver, since the fan noise was an issue
[15:18] <leguaani> that sounds good
[15:20] <holstein> sure.. and i have also had other cases (nvidia) where i just lived with the fan noise.. and other cases, where i just changed hardware
[15:20] <leguaani> that post says it sets 60hz refresh, but it seems the laptop screen is only 50hz?
[15:20] <holstein> could be the proprietary driver for your device needs or suuports an older kernel
[15:21] <leguaani> yeah I have AMD+AMD on my desktop and Intel/Intel on my "real" laptop
[15:21] <holstein> leguaani: you put that file in place, reboot, and you can remove it from a live CD or tty or recovery console and get back to where you are now
[15:21] <leguaani> I'm just trying to resurrect a old laptop for checking email etc
[15:22] <leguaani> ok I'll try it
[15:26] <leguaani> I'll reboot now see how it goes, thanks for the help
[16:48] <Rommy> Buonasera a tutti
[16:48] <knome> !it | Rommy
[18:51] <on4aa> Hi, I just received an upgrade on xubuntu 12.04, now all browsers are slow and flash no longer works. Java is also slow.
[18:52] <on4aa> Any suggestions?
[19:00] <TheSheep> welcome to the future \o/
[19:01] <TheSheep> but seriously, look for what slows it
[19:13] <on4aa> Where can I find my automatic upgrade history log?
[19:51] <xubuntu> hi all
[19:51] <Guest42040> i am trying to install xubuntu on ssd
[19:52] <Guest42040> how to define root file system_
[20:30] <krysztal> Hi. I want to install pepper flash plugin to Maxthon browser. As it's chromium based browser, it's should be simple, but did i have to disable build-in flash plugin from it first? If yes, how?
[20:31] <holstein> krysztal: you shouldnt.. i literally just install chrome, not chromium.. then you can find the plugin there if you want to try and "mis-use" it
[20:32] <krysztal> Yeah, but I still don't want to install chrome... okay, fine.
[20:32] <holstein> krysztal: you'll need to obtain the pepper flash
[20:32] <holstein> krysztal: you strip it from chrome
[20:33] <krysztal> So yeah, install, not use it
[20:33] <holstein> krysztal: i assue you, this is just a fact.. if you want to use it or not is your business.. the pepperflash is in the chrome browser.. if you want it, you get it from there
[20:35] <krysztal> Okay, okay. I actually want to try it, because I have little but annoying problem with normal flash, and just don't know what to do
[20:36] <holstein> krysztal: there is no "normal" flash.. for linux, there is the current one, only available officially in the chrome browser, and the repo one, which is an older maintained one
[20:36] <holstein> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[20:36] <krysztal> I meant that adobe abbandoned one
[20:37] <krysztal> ...abandoned
[20:37] <holstein> then, you mean the repo version.. the older one
[20:37] <holstein> for which, adobe provides security updates..
[20:38] <krysztal> Yeah, anyway, want to know something
[20:39] <krysztal> Because I'm using script that maximize youtube player to browser window size
[20:39] <krysztal> There is option to disable it by scrolling down site. It's working on windows, and don't on linux
[20:40] <holstein> disable what?
[20:41] <krysztal> Disable resizing
[20:41] <lectus> Guys! I need your help! So, my motherboard broke and I replaced the entire computer with a new one, but added my old HDs (one with Windows 7) and the other with Xubuntu. Xubuntu still boots, but Windows stopped booting. It seems I'll have to reinstall Windows and then repair grub so it can boot Xubuntu and Windows. I'll use the new hd as storage for data. Any help is welcome on how I can do this procedure. Thanks
[20:41] <krysztal> This thing: https://github.com/YePpHa/YouTubeCenter/wiki/Features#wiki-Fullscreen_Top_Player
[20:41] <holstein> krysztal:  i read "i have added a script to resize.. how do i disable resizing?".. to which, i think, dont run the script
[20:42] <holstein> lectus: you may.. you are not "allowed" to move windows like you are linux
[20:42] <holstein> lectus: you will ask in a windows support channel
[20:42] <lectus> I'm asking on how to reinstall grub guys
[20:42] <holstein> !grub
[20:42] <lectus> I'm fine with reinstalling Windows
[20:43] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:43] <holstein> or, this specifically targeting the question.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[20:43] <lectus> so after running sudo grub-install
[20:43] <lectus> will it detect windows?
[20:44] <holstein> lectus: after referring to the above link, it *should*
[20:44] <holstein> nothing about grub will prevent that
[20:53] <lectus> holstein, that grub-install command can be run from a live-cd right?
[20:54] <holstein> lectus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair explains how to do that, from live CD
[20:54] <holstein> lectus: the other links explain how to do it from the commandline, and other ways
[20:56] <lectus> thanks
[23:09] <zsw__> is there a way i can go through the bios and assess my pc's database. i just got cain&able and want to test it ous.
[23:26] <olivier__> need help! my wifi adapter won't turn on!!
[23:28] <knome> zsw__, what "database"?
[23:29] <zsw__> database that has encrypted passwords
[23:29] <knome> zsw__, i'm not following you
[23:30] <zsw__> theres a database i forgot the name for but it has all the passwords and user names on my pc
[23:31] <slickymaster> zsw__: could it be KeePass?
[23:32] <zsw__> yes thats it but i dont know how to assess it
[23:33] <knome> zsw__, we're not helping you to crack passwords on this channel.
[23:34] <zsw__> you dont have to walk me through that part. i just want to assess that database of my *own* passwords. its legal.
[23:35] <knome> zsw__, this is as far as we go with this subject.
[23:36] <zsw__> ok thats fine