[03:11] <CullenDM> Hi, I am having problems getting my wireless card working. The card is BCM4331 and I have a Macbook Pro 8,1.
[03:12] <mamarley> CullenDM: Are you using the b43 driver or the proprietary driver?
[03:13] <CullenDM> Under software sources it says I am using the proprietary driver, but I can only connect via cable.
[03:18] <Fudge> hi I have a 4th gen gigabyte intel board, trusty is saying unable to install grub. i tried to install it to the same partition as I have precise on here too that maintains grub, any ideas
[03:18] <Fudge> I did have Trusty installed but as feature freeze is near I wanted to reinstall
[03:20] <Beldar> Fudge, You can't have 2 OS linux on one partition, at least that what it reads like to me can you be more exacting. IE when is the grub asked for...etc
[03:22] <CullenDM> Ok, I tried using Jockey to install the driver and it says that it failed, this is the what it shows in the log file.
[03:22] <CullenDM> 2014-02-21 21:20:59,535 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted
[03:22] <Beldar> Fudge, Just put grub in the trusty partition precise will still have the mbr and grub menu Than run a update-grub in precise.
[03:24] <Beldar> Fudge, You don't put the grub in the install in another OS's partition to get it on the grub menu, which seems to be your theory.
[03:44] <CullenDM> Still having problems with my wireless driver. None of the processes to fix it that I have found are working.
[05:59] <soee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1283353
[06:13] <Fudge> Beldar:  i have precise  with grub installed to sda, its partitions are on sda5 and sda6, trusty is on sda7 with grub isntalled to the same partition, as i want to control my grub from precise
[06:14] <Fudge> Beldar:  it is how i have always done things as currently precise is my stable os
[06:25] <Beldar> Fudge, You would not put trusties grub in precise is all. You can use what ever release you want to control grub and load its grub from its desktop with sudo grub-install /dev/sdX  X X is the HD.
[06:26] <Beldar> X is the HD*
[07:15] <Fudge> Beldar:  I know this, I did that, that is why I asked her ebecause of the error I received
[07:19] <Beldar> Fudge, Error seemed to be putting trusties grub into precise right?
[08:57] <jack> does "dragon" randomly crash for others too?
[09:05] <Fudge> Beldar:  no mate, something with UEFI I think
[09:11] <Fudge> so ill prob try setting up a uefi partition and see how that goes
[09:19] <ethermonk> how do i find out if i am running x11 or Mir?
[09:56] <bekks> you would know if you run mir.
[10:30] <vectory_> ethermonk: ps aux|grep Xorg
[10:31] <vectory_> not a precise answer but a start :)
[10:32] <bekks> If the actual question is "Does 14.04 use Mir?", then the answer is "No." - so the user would know if he/she installed Mir or not :)
[10:38] <vectory_> for the benefit of the doubt i guess he installed mir at some point
[11:01] <Fudge> better
[13:23] <phillw> Hi, a very noobie question, when I have the ISO mounted with loop, how do I change the kernel?
[13:25] <super-ru> Hey guys, quick question - I am wanting to install version 4.01.0-3ubuntu3 on an amd64 system of the ocaml package but it says "trusty (devel)". Does that mean it's not going to work on my 13.10 install?
[13:26] <super-ru> Or can I just add the trusty distribution and install it?
[13:29] <phillw> super-ru: I'm no expert... but 14.04 is pretty darn stable (well firefox beta decided to crash).  but it is being tracked... so if you do not use the real pushing edge of applications 14.04 will be fine for you http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1314
[13:32] <super-ru> I don't have the internet bandwidth to download another ISO this month lol
[13:33] <jtaylor> use zsync?
[13:34] <phillw> super-ru: well have a look into zsync, it will tell you how much data it needs. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds has the links
[13:34] <jtaylor> it might work to install the trusty package, but its safer to backport it
[13:34] <jtaylor> e.g. via backportpackage
[13:34] <super-ru> Yeah I was just reading into that
[13:35] <super-ru> Doesn't that require asking some professional developers to do some coding though?
[13:35] <jtaylor> only if it doesn't work
[13:36] <jtaylor> it might also break your ther ocaml packages
[13:36] <jtaylor> depends on how stable of an abi ocaml has
[13:36] <super-ru> Fresh install so I'll be getting the "latest" anyway
[13:37] <super-ru> Seems like a tonne of working and configuring just to compile a single software package though lol
[13:37] <super-ru> Wish someone would precompile it for me -_-
[13:37] <jtaylor> trusty does so :)
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:51] <super-ru> I've decided just to checkout a previous version that doesn't require ocaml 4 lol
[13:52] <super-ru> and hey BlueKaj
[14:33] <ThomasB-Win> hey
[14:33] <ThomasB-Win> did the recent update break anyone else's lightdm?
[14:46] <soee> ThomasB-Win: define "break" ?
[14:47] <ThomasB-Win> When I go to log in, after I put in my password the password entry box disappears and so do the little dots on the background, but it just halts there.
[14:47] <ThomasB-Win> I've tried using xdm too but a lot of processes don't seem to be started, or maybe the recent update broke those too <_<
[14:48] <ThomasB-Win> I forced an update of xserver-xorg-core but that didn't work and I'm too afraid to do anything else because I might get stuck in dependency hell
[14:48] <soee> ah no idea, im on kubuntu
[14:48] <ThomasB-Win> *oh ok :p
[14:48] <ThomasB-Win> I don't know why I put an asterisk
[14:48] <soee> here lightdm works fine (when not using nvidia-prime)
[14:52] <ThomasB-Win> now my question is obscured by all of this netsplit stuff :(
[14:53] <ThomasB-Win> [08:33] <ThomasB-Win> did the recent update break anyone else's lightdm?
[14:53] <ThomasB-Win> there
[15:02] <BluesKaj> ThomasB-Win, try the virtual konsole , ctl+alt+F1-F6, login , then update and upgrade, then startx
[23:14] <ethermonk> Studio 14.04 daily has been installing for 15 hours now (and progress is still being made)
[23:15] <ethermonk> any way to prod the "Restoring previously installed packages" process along?
[23:28] <FernandoMiguel> 15h?
[23:28] <FernandoMiguel> what kind of PC do you have?
[23:28] <FernandoMiguel> none of mine ever took more than 30 min
[23:30] <ethermonk> Ubuntu Studio 14.04 x64 on AMD X2 2GHz, 4GB RAM, 80GB HDD (40GB ext4 "/" and 40GB NTFS Win7)
[23:32] <ethermonk> install went like normal untill i hit the "Restoring previously installed packeges" part of the install. this is where its been running for 14 hours slowly making progress (clean install)
[23:34] <penguin42> sounds like it's died - I'd just try again
[23:34] <ethermonk> it hasnt died, progress is being made
[23:34] <ethermonk> just very slowly
[23:36] <penguin42> how do you know?
[23:39] <ethermonk> the drop down that shows the cli output.   stuff is getting done, just have to wait about an hour in between "Warning Source ID blahblah was not found when attempting to remove it Glib.source_remove(self.timeout_id)"
[23:39] <penguin42> well if not dead that certainly sounds very ill
[23:40] <ethermonk> so i really should give up on it?
[23:40]  * penguin42 would try again
[23:40] <ethermonk> k
[23:41] <FernandoMiguel> either there's a bug in the installer
[23:41] <FernandoMiguel> or the DVD has gone bad
[23:41] <FernandoMiguel> etc
[23:42] <ethermonk> i would assume the installer isnt ready yet
[23:42] <ethermonk> heard from some one else who installed studio 14.04 daily that it took their machine 7 hours to install
[23:43] <penguin42> I mean it's possible it's just a screwed up build - itsounds like something has died and it keeps timing out