[05:21] <inetpro> good morning 
[06:00] <Private_User> morning inetpro 
[06:18] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn and others
[06:18] <Kilos> what time you going to fight nlsthzn ?
[06:48] <nlsthzn> that was yesterday uncle Kilos :p
[06:48] <Kilos> how did it go nlsthzn 
[06:50] <nlsthzn> exceptionally well uncle Kilos, out of a possible six trophies we brought home six :D - 5 1st places and a 2nd place (which I still think we where robbed :P)
[06:51] <nlsthzn> when we get some photos online I will post a link or two
[06:51] <Kilos> wonderful nlsthzn congrats
[06:52] <nlsthzn> thanks :)
[06:52] <Kilos> there is lots of favouritism in all competitions
[06:53] <nlsthzn> human nature 
[06:53] <Kilos> i remember i got disqualified for flattening a guy and he went on to win the comp
[07:07] <nlsthzn> lol
[07:07] <nlsthzn> :(
[07:10] <Kilos> grrrr
[07:17] <nlsthzn> wb
[07:18] <Kilos> ty
[07:20] <Private_User> hey guys how long does it take for one to receive a password on ubuntu-za site after requesting it?
[07:35] <Kilos> what site Private_User 
[07:36] <Kilos> normally things are quick
[07:38] <Kilos> our one site was moved i think
[07:39] <Private_User> Kilos: ubuntu-za
[07:39] <nlsthzn> http://ubuntu-za.org/ ?
[07:41] <Private_User> nlsthzn: that is correct
[07:41] <Kilos> did you request a new password
[07:42] <nlsthzn> I have no idea... I never requested one
[07:42] <Kilos> havent you created an account yet or what?
[07:44] <Private_User> I did but never got a password
[07:44] <Private_User> so I requested one and still nothing
[07:45] <Kilos> try login with same username then tick the forgot password thing and you will be mailed what to do
[07:49] <Kilos> im struggling there too
[07:49] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:50] <Private_User> I have requested new password many times and it states Further details have been sent to your email address but nothing
[07:50] <Private_User> even checked spam nothing
[07:50] <Kilos> ya mine isnt coming either
[07:51] <Kilos> tumbleweed do you know whatsup at http://ubuntu-za.org/
[07:52] <Kilos> nlsthzn there was something else to login with before, like the launchpad id or something
[07:53] <nlsthzn> I never requested access to the site... so I have no idea uncle Kilos
[07:53] <nlsthzn> I just had superfly aggregate my blog to it
[07:53] <Kilos> maybe its something to do with being moved
[07:54] <Kilos> lemme try create a new account
[08:10] <Private_User> I guess we will have to wait for the guys responsible for the move and the site to come on line
[08:15] <Kilos> yeah
[08:15] <Kilos> it definitely doesnt email one
[08:16] <Kilos> inetpro fix it
[08:16] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[08:16] <Kilos> hehe
[09:27] <magespawn> good morning
[09:36] <magespawn> inetpro ping
[10:06] <charl_> good morning
[10:06] <charl_> Maaz_: coffee on
[10:06]  * Maaz_ starts grinding coffee
[10:10] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[10:11] <charl_> Maaz_: thanks
[10:11] <Maaz_> charl_: Sure
[10:19] <magespawn> hi charl_ 
[10:35] <charl_> hi magespawn 
[10:35] <charl_> how's it going
[10:36] <charl_> whow i'm watching this and it is shocking http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl/afleveringen/1396981
[10:40] <charl_> that woman has guts
[10:45] <charl_> hi Kilos :)
[10:45] <charl_> how's it going
[10:45] <Kilos> hi charl good ty and you?
[10:45] <charl_> i'm good
[10:46] <Kilos> hi magespawn you winning?
[10:48] <Kilos> where are you putting that cisco thing? at home?
[10:49] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:53] <charl_> wb magespawn_ 
[10:53] <charl_> what cisco thing?
[10:53] <Kilos> router
[10:54] <Kilos> he was trying to set it up last night
[10:54] <charl_> oooooh :(
[10:54] <charl_> cisco ftl
[10:54] <Kilos> maybe he can get it going properly
[10:55] <Kilos> there must be some good in them or they would be off market
[10:56] <charl_> cisco has a lot of traction because they use to be the de-facto router
[10:56] <charl_> but most other companies have long surpassed them
[10:56] <charl_> cisco also has a very good certification programme
[10:56] <charl_> but i avoid cisco at all cost
[11:02] <magespawn_> hey just back in the office now
[11:03] <Kilos> ah
[11:05] <charl_> whow you work on weekends magespawn ?
[11:06] <magespawn> charl_, it is a cisco 837
[11:06] <magespawn> always have
[11:06] <charl_> oh it's a dsl router
[11:06] <charl_> i used to have one of them
[11:06] <magespawn> up
[11:06] <charl_> not sure if it's the exact same model, but a model of cisco dsl router
[11:07] <magespawn> s/up/yup
[11:07] <charl_> ah yes, this one looks very familiar http://greengateway.home.pl/ebay/cisco837/cisco_837_130.jpg
[11:07] <charl_> the one i had was controlled by mweb
[11:07] <charl_> got it with an mweb business account
[11:07] <charl_> i didn't even have the enable password
[11:08] <charl_> i had to connect the damn thing to my pc using a serial interface
[11:08] <magespawn> this is from is orginally
[11:08] <charl_> and then had to perform password recovery by rebooting the router and entering some special mode
[11:08] <magespawn> or rather IS
[11:09] <magespawn> yup that is what i was doing last night
[11:10] <charl_> ah this was it http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/routers/800-series-routers/12065-pswdrec-827.html
[11:10] <charl_> that is what i had to do as well yes
[11:10] <charl_> this was back in 2006
[11:10] <magespawn> all the documentation i have seen says that router has a web interface, but i have not been able to get that to work yet
[11:10] <charl_> back then computers still had serial interfaces
[11:10] <charl_> now you have to do it with some usb plug
[11:10] <charl_> yes exactly
[11:11] <charl_> that is what happened to me as well
[11:11] <magespawn> i think these first cam out in 2003
[11:11] <magespawn> s/cam/came
[11:11] <charl_> i didn't manage to get the web interface working and it was a big problem to get the dsl configuration done through the terminal
[11:11] <charl_> because there was almost no documentation to describe how to do it exactly
[11:11] <magespawn> that is what i am finding too
[11:12] <magespawn> wanted to speak to Symmetria about it
[11:12] <magespawn> or anyone else who can point me in the right direction
[11:12] <charl_> i eventually set up a telnet connection on some static ip and linked it to the office network
[11:12] <charl_> i asked a guy who was a certified cisco professional to do it
[11:12] <charl_> and even he couldn't get it working
[11:13] <magespawn> wow
[11:13] <charl_> it was the guy from http://www.oryx.co.za/
[11:13] <charl_> johann diogo
[11:13] <charl_> http://za.linkedin.com/pub/johann-diogo/1/231/ba7
[11:14] <charl_> or that's what i got told, i didn't speak to him directly
[11:14] <magespawn> well i have time, the router was just sitting around, and nobody else even knew what it was
[11:14] <charl_> yeah same here
[11:14] <charl_> nobody was using it and it looked like a really good solid router
[11:14] <charl_> so i decided to take it home and mess with it
[11:14] <charl_> was busy hacking it until like 11 in the evening
[11:15] <charl_> it was a fun experiment because i didn't have much experience with the damn cisco products
[11:16] <magespawn> indeed, a good way to learn
[11:16] <charl_> do you know johann? he used to run an irc network called lagnet
[11:16] <charl_> disappeared a number of years ago
[11:16] <magespawn> not by name
[11:16] <charl_> he always used to go by oryx on irc
[11:17] <magespawn> no
[11:17] <charl_> he was one of the guys who was involved with pix in the early days AFAIK
[11:21] <charl_> i am interested to know if somebody has answers for you on this, particularly because i had the same
[11:21] <charl_> lemme know if you get it working please
[11:22] <charl_> not that it matters, i don't even use dsl anymore, but just out of interest
[11:23] <magespawn> i will do charl_ 
[11:24] <charl_> the thing i didn't like about that router though is that it had no ssh
[11:24] <charl_> only telnet
[11:24] <charl_> i was like "how retarded can you be"
[11:24] <charl_> and that was like 8 years ago
[11:24] <magespawn> this has the option for ssh now
[11:24] <charl_> ah, at least they made some improvements
[11:25] <charl_> which version of ios are you running ?
[11:25] <magespawn> not sure did not check
[11:25] <charl_> ok nvm
[11:25] <magespawn> maybe i can put all this up in a blog post or something like that
[11:26] <charl_> do it !
[11:26] <charl_> how did you do the serial interface btw
[11:26] <magespawn> can anyone recommend network diagramming software?
[11:26] <charl_> for me i still had an old serial port on my pc 8 years ago but these days you have to use usb ?
[11:27] <magespawn> console cable from the router to a usb serial adapter to laptop and minicom in the terminal 
[11:27] <charl_> ah
[11:28] <Kilos> how old is it magespawn ?
[11:28] <Kilos> there must be someone that has sorted a way to do it
[11:28] <magespawn> this particular one i have no idea
[11:28] <Kilos> ping Symmetria 
[11:51] <magespawn> Kilos, looks like most people are off at the moment
[11:51] <Kilos> yeah saterdays is for shopping normally
[11:52] <Kilos> Symmetria is always shopping
[11:53] <Kilos> or he is lurking and scared he cant help you fix the router
[11:53] <magespawn> no worries, there is no rush
[11:53] <magespawn> not so sure about that one Kilos 
[11:53] <Kilos> lol
[11:54] <Kilos> i'd be going mad already
[11:54] <Kilos> it must work
[11:55] <Kilos> do they have auto flash things for that one too? or auto upgrade
[11:55] <magespawn> having said that, there must also be a reason why it was in the box on a shelf
[11:55] <Kilos> ya no one else could make it work
[11:56] <magespawn> that is what i am hoping
[11:57] <Kilos> just keep digging. sooner or later something will come right
[12:01] <Kilos> have you got no connection to the system working there?
[12:01] <Kilos> maybe its firewalled you
[12:11] <magespawn> i did manage to connect via the console Kilos, but after that i need to learn more about the configure the router
[12:11] <Kilos> there nothing in its manual?
[12:19] <magespawn> not that i saw but it was a bit late last night
[12:19] <Kilos> must be directions on what to do. i got a lekker manual with the billion router
[12:19] <Kilos> but lots of reading
[12:21] <Kilos> not with that is. was online
[12:22] <Kilos> oh ya kerbero got it for me
[12:22] <Kilos> Maaz_ seen kerbero
[12:22] <Maaz_> Kilos: kerbero was last seen 7 months, 29 days, 23 hours, 31 minutes and 35 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-06-27 14:51:17 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-08-03 08:36:23 SAST
[12:22] <Kilos> wow
[12:24] <Kilos> oh my #glug.za is almost empty as well
[12:25] <charl_> magespawn: you should try # and #zacon on atrum
[12:25] <charl_> magespawn: be warned, # has an "interesting" culture
[12:25] <charl_> magespawn: or you should try #clug but a lot of people who hang out in # also hangs out in #clug
[12:26] <charl_> magespawn: as long as you don't take them too seriously, they are generally a good bunch of people
[12:26] <magespawn> thanks charl_ 
[12:27] <charl_> np
[12:28] <Kilos> but its also saterday so dont expect peeps to be at their pcs
[12:28] <Kilos> even froztyza is quite clued up
[13:44] <somaunn> hello guys
[13:46] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[13:46] <somaunn> hi drubin
[13:46] <somaunn> hi inetpro
[13:47] <somaunn> Maaz_: how to buy rhel license
[13:47] <Maaz_> somaunn: Huh?
[13:47] <somaunn> Maaz_: google how to buy rhel license
[13:47] <Maaz_> somaunn: "redhat.com | Red Hat Store" http://www.redhat.com/commerce/ :: "Red Hat | Purchasing Red Hat Enterprise Linux" http://www.redhat.com/resourcelibrary/articles/articles-red-hat-enterprise-linux-purchasing-guide :: "Red Hat License Agreements | Red Hat" http://www.redhat.com/licenses/ :: "Red Hat | Red Hat subscription model: How it works"
[13:47] <Maaz_> http://www.redhat.com/about/subscription/howitworks.html :: "Purchasing Your Own Red Hat Enterprise Linux …
[13:50] <Kilos> hi somaunn 
[13:50] <somaunn> what new here
[13:50] <Kilos> not much i think
[13:50] <somaunn> ok
[13:51] <somaunn> i've a target to install Redhat on my laptop
[13:53] <somaunn> but still i'm looking for a way to disable RHN subscription
[13:53] <somaunn> i can't update without getting subscribed to RHN$
[13:53] <Kilos> lol
[13:59] <somaunn> do i have to pay if i register to RHN ?
[14:00] <somaunn> Maaz_: google do i have to pay to register to RHN
[14:00] <Maaz_> somaunn: "How do I re-register my system with Red Hat Network (RHN) Classic ..." https://access.redhat.com/site/solutions/8036 :: "5.2. Starting the Red Hat Network Registration Client" https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Network_Satellite/5.1.1/html/Reference_Guide/s1-start-welcome.html :: "How do I apply package updates from the Red Hat
[14:00] <Maaz_> Network? - Red ..." https://access.redhat.com/site/articles/11258 :: "Chapter 2. The rhn_re…
[14:00] <Kilos> i dont know
[14:00] <Kilos> surely not
[14:09] <somaunn> Kilos: thanks 
[14:10] <somaunn> woudl be great if it's for free
[14:10] <Kilos> for what somaunn 
[14:10] <somaunn> and i will only get the license when i i move to more deeper things 
[14:10] <Kilos> isnt the licence an exam you write
[14:10] <somaunn> like setting up a server
[14:10] <somaunn> or workstation stauffs
[14:10] <Kilos> ah
[14:25] <somaunn> Kilos: not i'm talking about software licensing for RHEL
[14:36] <Kilos-> oh my
[14:48] <somaunn> Kilos-: brb
[16:19] <Kilos> wb everyone
[16:24] <charl_> whow freenode is under massive ddos
[16:25] <charl_> https://twitter.com/freenodestaff/status/437259178487578624
[16:25] <charl_> We're being DDoS'd. Things might appear splitty or otherwise broken, but we and our most gracious sponsors (thank you!) are mitigating it.
[17:26] <charl_> whow this ddos is crazy
[17:27] <Golynx> hi charl_
[17:28] <charl_> hi Golynx 
[17:28] <Golynx> these hackers dont seem to ever get bored
[17:29]  * inetpro_ is still here 
[17:30] <charl_> https://twitter.com/freenodestaff/status/437271145453486080
[17:30] <charl_> "IKR? Such annoyance, much frustration. Very DDoS."
[17:30] <charl_> "such timeout, much bouncer PMs"
[17:30] <charl_> do you people know doge ?
[17:41] <Kilos> oh my oh my oh my
[17:41] <Kilos> they killed us
[17:41] <Kilos> inetpro jy hier
[17:41] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[17:42] <Kilos> ???
[17:42] <Kilos> fix it man
[17:42] <Kilos> hi Golynx ddos attacks again looks like
[17:42] <Golynx> Yes 
[17:44] <Golynx> on @freenodestaff at twitter, they say its impossible to track the bad guys because they dont leave calling card packets 
[17:45] <Golynx> so this is going to keep on happening in the future with freenode
[17:46] <charl_> as is with the rest of the internet
[17:47] <Golynx> charl_: yes true