[00:00] <Jordan_U> wxl: s/wich/wish/
[00:00] <wxl> Jordan_U: functional is all i care about. doesn't have to work great. so how did you get it to work the way you did?
[00:00] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: you can load it by running: xcalib /path/to/icc/profile
[00:00] <Bray90820_> Well then how do i save the profile
[00:00] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: you'll need to add that to your 'startup Applications'
[00:01] <Bray90820_> I just wanna test the cnages i have made so far to see if i like them
[00:01] <Jordan_U> wxl: Made an Xorg.conf specifying that VESA be used rather than native drivers, though I seem to remember needing to do multiple other hacks to get it working as well.
[00:03] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: lprof or gnome-color-manager can produce such a profile too using GUI, get a few test pattern charts online (lika from http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html, print and test, it can take a while to something you're happy with
[00:03] <wxl> Jordan_U: meh. i see. appreciate the assistance. i'll grab a different card out of the used pile.
[00:03]  * wxl mumbles unsavory things about compaqs
[00:03] <Icehawk78> Are there lists of recommended/supported graphics chips for Ubuntu?
[00:04] <Jordan_U> !hcl | Icehawk78
[00:04] <Ben64> Icehawk78: generally, nvidia works better
[00:04] <Icehawk78> Jordan_U: Thanks!
[00:04] <Icehawk78> Ben64: Yeah, I'm switching from a Radeon because I can't get it reliably working
[00:04] <Jordan_U> Icehawk78: You're welcome.
[00:05] <Beldar> Icehawk78, Check askubuntu using the search on your radeon hardware as well, might be some answers there.
[00:07] <OerHeks> wxl, i was just reading about this sis bug < https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+bug/1066464 >  and read recent post about mediahack sis driver in this ppa package https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/mediahacks
[00:08] <cihan> hi all! i have two machines with ubuntu 12.04 and they have ntp. however there is a time difference between them (around 4sec). how can i completely sync them? any suggestions?
[00:10] <wxl> oh ho thanks OerHeks
[00:12] <Beldar> !away > racer|stream
[00:13] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: if you happen to be in the proximity of an art school where they teach photography courses, you could take your machine there and kindly ask to use a professional colorimeter for a few minutes to adjust your ICC profile, jus a tip, i realise that depends on randomness but you'll get better results than without such a tool
[00:14] <high_fiver> cihan, presumably both servers are pointing to the same ntp server
[00:15] <Bray90820_> glitsj16: i just don't know how the hell to SAVE the profile
[00:15] <cihan> high_fiver, im trying to check but when i use 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org', it tells me that no server is found
[00:15] <Bray90820_> all the program has is load profile
[00:15] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: which program are you using?
[00:15] <Bray90820_> dispcalGUI
[00:16] <racer|stream> sorry beldar, forgot I was in this channel
[00:16] <high_fiver> cihan, worked for me
[00:16] <Beldar> racer|stream, Heh no biggie. ;)
[00:16] <cihan> high_fiver, so maybe router is causing a problem :/
[00:17] <Bray90820_> glitsj16:  dispcalGUI
[00:18] <santana> hai everybody i can't install gimp on ubuntu 13.10
[00:18] <santana> i can't add any ppa
[00:18] <en1gma> i just installed ubuntu desktop 13.10 i think. anyhow im gonna let someone remotely use my box to build some stuff from source  (nothing related to ubuntu) and just wondering is there a complete dev package i can get with headers and all that
[00:19] <high_fiver> cihan, try sudo ntpdate time1.google.com
[00:19] <high_fiver> cihan, router shouldn't be a problem for outbound traffic
[00:19] <en1gma> used to be something called build-essential but not sure if its called something else
[00:19] <cihan> high_fiver,  no server suitable for synchronization found
[00:20] <cihan> high_fiver, that s the error i get
[00:21] <z1haze> i need help getting my virtual host to work
[00:21] <JonEdney> santana, I'm still on 12.04, but isn't GIMP available via Software Center for an easy installation?
[00:21] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: try with gnome-color-manager, that's in the ubuntu repos, i never used dispcalGUI myself
[00:21] <Beldar> santana, Can you be more clear with details what you have tried and errors?
[00:22] <Beldar> santana, Gimp is in the stock install as well.
[00:22] <brianjaod> anyone here used fbi in a programtic way to send image to the frame buffer?  using system() in my C code, I'm trying to use it but I don't see a way to change the image in code, only through manual keyboard commands.
[00:22] <santana> i try to install use usc coz i  use wvdial i can install it
[00:22] <santana> so i use terminal
[00:22] <Beldar> !who | santana
[00:23] <elb0w> Im on ubuntu 13.04 I enabled workspaces b ut my shortcut keys to swap to the next workspace are not working
[00:23] <elb0w> Any idea?
[00:23] <kostkon> brianjaod, better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[00:23] <ggreer> isn't 13.04 EOL or something? it's definitely obsolete
[00:23] <high_fiver> cihan, do you have /etc/ntp.conf
[00:24] <brianjaod> kostkon, thanks
[00:24] <elb0w> ggreer: yeah I should update I guess
[00:24] <santana> beldar i try to install use terminal but when i try to add any ppa the dialoge say can add it
[00:24] <elb0w> ggreer: only problem is then ill sit here for an hour after that tweaking everything and ill never get it working
[00:24] <elb0w> er
[00:24] <elb0w> get working*
[00:24] <bbaaxx> elb0w: which key combination is not working ?
[00:24] <elb0w> bbaaxx: ctrl+alt+2
[00:25] <cihan> high_fiver, yes
[00:25] <Beldar> santana, what is 'usc' the ubuntu software center, don't abbreviate please. How and why are you adding the ppa?
[00:25] <high_fiver> cihan, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/NTP.html
[00:25] <ggreer> elb0w: gotta rip that bandage off sometime :/
[00:25] <bbaaxx> elb0w: does ctl+alt+arrow key (left right) work ?
[00:25] <elb0w> bbaaxx: negative
[00:25] <Bray90820_> glitsj16: How would i calabrate it from there
[00:25] <santana> beldar i see it on internet so i try it
[00:26] <high_fiver> cihan, follow that - out of curiosity what values where in there
[00:26] <elb0w> bbaaxx: you know what let me upgrade
[00:26] <bbaaxx> elb0w: have you checked ccsm ?
[00:26] <elb0w> ccsm no
[00:26] <cihan> high_fiver, ok i will try that
[00:26] <bbaaxx> elb0w: install it via apt-get
[00:26] <elb0w> bbaaxx: ah compiz yes I have it
[00:26] <elb0w> bbaaxx: you think its messing with it?
[00:27] <bbaaxx> elb0w: open ccsm and go to workspace changer
[00:27] <bbaaxx> elb0w: or something like that
[00:27] <bbaaxx> elb0w: let me check
[00:27] <elb0w> bbaaxx: I have Workspace Naming
[00:27] <elb0w> nothing else with workspace
[00:27] <bbaaxx> elb0w: is called
[00:28] <bbaaxx> elb0w: viewport switcher
[00:28] <elb0w> bbaaxx: yes I have it
[00:28] <Bray90820_> brb
[00:29] <bbaaxx> elb0w: there you can configure the bindings to go directly to each viewport
[00:29] <bbaaxx> elb0w: also there in ccsm you can find desktop wall
[00:29] <bbaaxx> Check that bot are activated
[00:29] <bbaaxx> elb0w: Check that both are enabled
[00:30] <bbaaxx> elb0w: also, in desktop wall options you can find the defailt bindings in the bindings tab
[00:30] <bbaaxx> elb0w: try using the brush-thing icon to reset the values to the factory default
[00:31] <Bray90820> Back
[00:31] <elb0w> bbaaxx: yeah working now, thanks
[00:31] <bbaaxx> elb0w: try not to mees too much with the stuff you find here, most of those options are very outdted and no longer implemented in unity
[00:31] <bbaaxx> elb0w: good :)
[00:32] <cihan> high_fever, they are still not synced :/
[00:33] <roro> Hi
[00:33] <dnalobymmot> hi, good afternoon
[00:33] <high_fiver> cihan, run wireshark to confirm the packets are being sent/received
[00:34] <high_fiver> cihan, which ntp servers do you have in ntp.conf
[00:34] <dnalobymmot> i've tried to install ubuntu on my win8 laptop all day, and im so frustrated right now... i keep getting the wubldr.mbr is missing on boot... can anyone please assist me?
[00:34] <wxl> thanks folks
[00:34] <glitsj16> Bray90820: i found http://dispcalgui.hoech.net/#menu .. looks like File > choose save path .. and .. Options > Create profile from measurement data.. should give you something to save
[00:35] <cihan> high_fiver, the servers are ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[00:36] <bbaaxx> dnalobymmot: hey, which version of ubunto and how are you trying to install it ?
[00:36] <cihan> and there is still a delay of 4 sec between two computers
[00:38] <dnalobymmot> 12.04.4 and basically, i used a blank usb, used unetbootin to create a bootable usb drive, then went into EFI and disabled secureboot
[00:39] <dnalobymmot> the pc restarted and when i selected ubuntu the message appears
[00:40] <Natsum> hi guys, I am planing to build cheap pc withAMD A6-6400K and no dedicated gpu, Is gpu of AMD A6-6400K running same on ubuntu like on windows? I want to play some games on steam,, sry for my bad English
[00:40] <quants> hi guys im just making a boot usb for a netbook. anything i need to look out for
[00:40] <Jordan_U> dnalobymmot: Did you just disable secure boot, or did you disable UEFI booting as well? Note also that you do not need to disable secure boot to install Ubuntu.
[00:42] <dnalobymmot> i just disabled secure boot, don't know how to disable UEFI... you mean going back to Legacy BIOS?
[00:43] <webfox> What can I do if I forget a user password?
[00:44] <Jordan_U> dnalobymmot: Ahh, I think I understand what happened. Did you run Wubi (a .exe file from the Ubuntu iso) in Windows?
[00:44] <cihan> high_fiver, can you check if 'netstat -ap | grep 123' gives you anything pls?
[00:44] <ramborocks> i forgot how to open the fstab
[00:44] <user_> My logout button does nothing when I click it
[00:45] <ramborocks> i added a device awhile back thats a usb drive and recently that drive died and want to get back in. but it wont let me save cause im not in as sudo
[00:45] <Natsum> if anyone can help, pls write me to freeze1111@gmail.com
[00:45] <Jordan_U> ramborocks: What do you mean by "died"? How are you trying to save files to the drive?
[00:45] <dnalobymmot> yeah, i did tried wubi first
[00:46] <high_fiver> cihan, nowt
[00:47] <cihan> thanks high_fiver
[00:47] <high_fiver> cihan, gtg pal good luck
[00:48] <cihan> high_fiver, thanks a lot
[00:48] <cihan> I think the problem is 'ntpq -np' on two machines are giving different results
 does any one know whats the source code of these sites like ubuntu-art.org Fedora-Art.org linuxmint-art.org ??
[00:54] <wiak> does any of you know how i can setup openvpn (network-manager) to kill firefox when it loses openvpn connection?
[00:54] <en1gma> i dloaded and installed ubuntu 13.10 desktop and i am 'apt-get install lubuntu-desktop' right now. just wondering how do i switch to it once its dloaded
[00:55] <cihan> I have a problem with syncing my time -- any idea?
[00:56] <en1gma> dont use utv
[00:56] <en1gma> utc*
[00:57] <Bashing-om> en1gma: In the login box, click on the ubuntu icon in the upper right of that small box, should have the option of the desk top to start.
[00:57] <cihan> en1gma, how can i set it?
[00:57] <arun> does any one know whats the source code of these sites like ubuntu-art.org Fedora-Art.org linuxmint-art.org ??
[00:57] <elb0w> Can someone remind me, if im in an app is there a shortcut to show all of that app types windows. So like all my terminals in an alt/tab type manner?
[00:57] <en1gma> Bashing-om, ahh so i just need to logout first and then select it?
[00:58] <dnalobymmot> can anyone please help me with the installation of ubuntu? i've tried many things and still cannot make it work
[00:58] <en1gma> thnx
[00:58] <Bashing-om> en1gma: yeah, .
[00:58] <en1gma> cihan i only noticed it on a fresh install
[00:58] <Jordan_U> dnalobymmot: Have you tried uninstalling Wubi completely and configuring your computer to boot from USB?
[00:58] <en1gma> ubuntu 32bit term is laggy when i scroll up and down. its pretty bad on this old dual core lappy
[00:59] <dnalobymmot> yeah, also tried that... and the boot screen with ubuntu and windows was still there... i wend into bcdedit.exe i order to remove it... now it goes straight into windows
[01:00] <xangua> en1gma: laggy on dual core¿ it might be a rgaphic issue
[01:01] <en1gma> it prob is. i think its got the x1300m or something
[01:01] <en1gma> hopefully* lubuntu will be nicer with it
[01:01] <en1gma> ok i gonna logout. brb
[01:09] <elb0w> Anyone know how to view all windows of an application? Like if you sit on the app in alt tab
[01:09] <elb0w> sorry if you sit on it in alt tab and press down
[01:12] <elb0w> nevermind super+w is close enough
[01:12] <iceroot> elb0w: alt + ^
[01:12] <en1gma> way smoother scrolling. must be a bug in ubuntu desktop term. dont do it in lubuntu
[01:13] <elb0w> iceroot: hmm that doesnt work for me
[01:13] <iceroot> elb0w: hm ok, it was working fine on my unity from 12.04
[01:14] <elb0w> iceroot: alt + `
[01:14] <elb0w> I think does it
[01:14] <elb0w> iceroot: yeah
[01:14] <iceroot> elb0w: ah ok, on german (qwertz) layout it is alt + ^
[01:18] <charlie_> how do you install google earth i tried and it says some error message?
[01:18] <dnalobymmot> need help installing ubuntu
[01:19] <raub> dnalobymmot: elaborate
[01:20] <dnalobymmot> trying to install ubuntu on windows 8... tried via wubi and i got a wubldr.mbr is missing error... tried via bootable usb and the machine does not recognize it at all and goes straight to windows
[01:21] <dnalobymmot> i want to have a dual boot of windows and ubuntu
[01:21] <Arceye> dnalobymmot,  you need to tell your bios to boot from USB before hdd
[01:21] <Serano> dnalobymmot: with the bootable usb you need to enter bios/uefi and boot from the stick
[01:22] <dnalobymmot> already tried both things... i have usb hdd as first option Arceye... and i have tried booting from uefi and bios with no luck
[01:23] <Serano> did you run the iso installer as administrator in widnwos?
[01:23] <dnalobymmot> you mean, mounted the image and installing it into main drive directly?
[01:23] <charlie_> dnalobymmot i would try UNetbootin it worked good for me. google it.
[01:24] <Serano> s oyou mounted and copy paste?
[01:24] <Daghdha> unetbootin is always my goto app
[01:24] <Serano> that's not sufficient, charlie_ his pointer is good and valid
[01:24] <Serano> Unetbootin is very easy to use
[01:24] <dnalobymmot> nope, mounted and installed via wubi... and Charlie, i created the bootable usd with unetbooting :)
[01:24] <Serano> and run that program as administrator
[01:24] <Daghdha> for some distros it even downloads the iso
[01:25] <Daghdha> anyone use openstack on 12.04? Like it?
[01:26] <Beldar> dnalobymmot, Good thread for uefi installs, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295 Have you seen the uefi wiki?
[01:27] <kdworak> hello
[01:27] <Daghdha> hmm openstack seems a bit too much for me. I just want a personal 'cloud'.
[01:27] <Beldar> Daghdha, That is polling, this is support.
[01:28] <Daghdha> Oh, sorry.
[01:28] <kdworak> Can anyone help a noob out, i have two virtual servers set up and have been told to practice moving stuff around.  Not sure which files to get to start moving around.... I have the LAMP stack on both servers
[01:28] <guest-zTBRDU> hi
[01:28] <Beldar> Daghdha, There is #ubuntu-offtopic for general ubuntu chat if you like.
[01:28] <dnalobymmot> yeah, already tried disabling secure boot... but there is something about gpt partitioning i havent looked
[01:28] <raub> What do I need to have in /etc/ntp.conf.dhcp besides just having the file?
[01:29] <Daghdha> Nah, i already found something
[01:29] <Beldar> dnalobymmot, Use nicks here addressing who you're answering, you can tab complete them.
[01:29] <Daghdha> Thanks though
[01:29] <guest-zTBRDU> can anyone help me fix my xfce account? for some reason the desktop isn't loading, tried deleting .config/xfce4 and clearing the session data but it's still happening
[01:29] <dnalobymmot> Beldar: oh nice, didn't know that
[01:29] <Beldar> no prondnal
[01:30] <Beldar> no prob dnalobymmot
[01:30] <guest-zTBRDU> and xsession errors is empty
[01:33] <dnalobymmot> Beldar: thanks for the links, i'm going to read and see what i've been missing and should it not work ill come back again
[01:33] <dnalobymmot> brb
[01:34] <Bashing-om> guest-zTBRDU: Try -> rm -rf .cache/sessions <-, if still a problem -=> xfwm4 --replace <-.
[01:36] <guest-zTBRDU> Bashing-om, ill try that
[01:36] <usr13> guest-zTBRDU: When you delete that directory, it should have asked you if you wanted to use default configuration.  Did it?
[01:36] <guest-zTBRDU> delete which?
[01:36] <guest-zTBRDU> I already removed config/xfce and esssion
[01:37] <usr13> guest-zTBRDU: So, did it ask if you wanted to use default configuration.
[01:38] <guest-zTBRDU> usr13, no
[01:38] <kdworak> hello
[01:38] <usr13> guest-zTBRDU: Did you do:  rm -rf .config/xfce4
[01:38] <kdworak> hey guys
[01:38] <guest-zTBRDU> usr13, yes
[01:38] <guest-zTBRDU> that was the first thing i did
[01:38] <usr13> guest-zTBRDU: So what happens now?
[01:38] <guest-zTBRDU> and then .cache/sessions
[01:38] <guest-zTBRDU> same as before
[01:38] <kdworak> Can anyone tell me what files i can put on my practice servers?
[01:38] <guest-zTBRDU> I'm able to log in, but nothing happens
[01:38] <usr13> guest-zTBRDU: So what is "same as before"?
[01:38] <guest-zTBRDU> no pannels, no new wallpaper
[01:39] <guest-zTBRDU> not able to pull up applications
[01:39] <guest-zTBRDU> able to switch to new tty's
[01:39] <guest-zTBRDU> .xsessionerrors is empty
[01:39] <chaotix> hi...  i want to add "~/.local/bin" to my system path, and there are a few methods...  which is the safest and best way?
[01:43] <guest-zTBRDU> chalcedny, add it to ~/.pam_enviroment
[01:43] <guest-zTBRDU> chalcedny, ehh
[01:43] <guest-zTBRDU> whoops
[01:43] <guest-zTBRDU>  not that
[01:43] <guest-zTBRDU> there's another
[01:44] <guest-zTBRDU> chalcedny, /etc/enviroment
[01:45] <usr13> guest-zTBRDU: xfce4-panel --quit
[01:46] <usr13> guest-zTBRDU: xfce4-panel
[01:47] <broken-xfce-desk> i'm guest-zTBRDU
[01:47] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: xfce4-panel
[01:48] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Did that restart it?
[01:49] <broken-xfce-desk> no
[01:49] <broken-xfce-desk> cannot open display .
[01:49] <broken-xfce-desk> weird
[01:49] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log  #Send us URL
[01:55] <broken-xfce-desk> usr13, pastebin.com/pduHjai
[01:55] <broken-xfce-desk> usr13, pastebin.com/pduKHjai
[01:58] <broken-xfce-desk> I'm really confused as to why gues account works
[01:58] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Guest account works?
[01:58] <broken-xfce-desk> but main doesn't - didn't even execute any intresting stuff
[01:58] <broken-xfce-desk> yes
[01:58] <broken-xfce-desk> on it right now
[01:58] <usr13> Ctrl-Alt-F6
[01:59] <usr13> ^^^^^^ broken-xfce-desk
[01:59] <usr13> sudo lightdm stop
[01:59] <broken-xfce-desk> done
[01:59] <broken-xfce-desk> single blinking cursor
[02:00] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Login as your main user.
[02:01] <usr13> Ctrl-Alt-F6
[02:01] <usr13> ls -l .Xauthority   #Tell us what it says.
[02:02] <morten77> hi, I have a problem with accessing my floppy drive from ubuntu (10.04), when I try doubleclick on it it them filemanager (Nautilius) it just responds with "Could not mount the place" "no media in the unit" (in my language). Any ideas?
[02:02] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Who owns .Xauthority ?
[02:02] <broken-xfce-desk> I do
[02:02] <broken-xfce-desk> james
[02:02] <broken-xfce-desk> james:james -rw-----
[02:02] <chaotix> so i would like to move the program i installed, menulibre, into the /usr/bin folder from the ~/.local/bin folder, but it depends on the contents of a folder called "site--packages" that is located inside of "~/.local/lib/python3.3".  I assumed it would work if i moved "menulibre" from the "~/.local/bin" to "/usr/bin" and moved "site-packages" from "~/.local/lib/python3.3" to "/usr/lib/python3.3" and it would work.  But after
[02:02] <chaotix>  moving the files, i try to execute menulibre from the terminal and get an error saying "Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:02] <chaotix>   File "/usr/bin/menulibre", line 31, in <module>
[02:02] <chaotix>     import menulibre
[02:02] <chaotix> "
[02:03] <usr13> rm -rf .config/xfce4
[02:03] <morten77> I have tried booting on an old win98 boot-floppy in the driver and that works, so the drive itself (or floppy) should not be bad.
[02:03] <usr13> rm  .Xauthority
[02:03] <kye_> #ubuntu i cant connect to wireless network on my ubuntu
[02:03] <chaotix> so, i moved it back, and it works fine calling on it from the folder it is in...  how do i get it to work from inside /usr/bin?
[02:03] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: sudo lightdm restart
[02:03] <chaotix> i looked at line 31 of menulibre, and i do not know what i would change it to if anything
[02:04] <broken-xfce-desk> usr13, nothing
[02:04] <broken-xfce-desk> blinking cursor
[02:04] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Are you logged in?
[02:05] <broken-xfce-desk> yes
[02:05] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: (as james?)
[02:05] <broken-xfce-desk> jame:james
[02:05] <broken-xfce-desk> yea
[02:05] <morten77> kye_: perhaps you need a hardware driver for your wireless network card/chip ? should be same place as hardware drivers for graphics card I think
[02:05] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Anything on tty7?
[02:05] <broken-xfce-desk> last time it said failed ot use bus name org.freedesktop.com/displaymanager
[02:05] <broken-xfce-desk> nope
[02:05] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Ctrl-Alt-F7
[02:05] <broken-xfce-desk> nothing
[02:05] <broken-xfce-desk> cursor
[02:05] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[02:06] <usr13> startxfce4
[02:06] <usr13>  ^^^^^^^  broken-xfce-desk:
[02:06] <kye_> im using live mode along side windows 7, btw im in ubuntu10.10 are the support still up? because i also cant download apps such as vlc
[02:06] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Tell us what it does.
[02:07] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: ... or what error you get ...
[02:07] <broken-xfce-desk> uh
[02:07] <broken-xfce-desk> no screens found
[02:08] <broken-xfce-desk> xinit giving up, unable to connect to x server conneciton refused
[02:09] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Try reboot
[02:09] <broken-xfce-desk> k
[02:10] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Tell us what you see when you login.
[02:10] <broken-xfce-desk> kicks me back to login screen
[02:11] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: But you can successfully login as guest?
[02:11] <broken-xfce-desk> yup
[02:11] <broken-xfce-desk> weird isn't it
[02:11] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[02:12] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: sudo service lightdm stop
[02:12] <Bashing-om> usr13: broken-xfce-desk , maybe .ICEauthority ?
[02:12] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: (logged in as james)?
[02:12] <broken-xfce-desk> yes
[02:13] <broken-xfce-desk> ICE authority looks binary
[02:14] <usr13> Bashing-om: Yea, maybe.
[02:15] <Bashing-om> broken-xfce-desk: ls -la ~/.ICEauthority <- should also be as your primary username.
[02:15] <broken-xfce-desk> ehh what
[02:15] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Who owns it?
[02:15] <broken-xfce-desk> my terminal looks corrupted
[02:15] <broken-xfce-desk> lol
[02:15] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: ls -l .ICE*
[02:16] <broken-xfce-desk> james I own it
[02:16] <broken-xfce-desk> read/write me only
[02:16] <usr13> rm -rf ~/.config
[02:17] <usr13> ^^^^^^^^^  broken-xfce-desk:  And then    startxfce4
[02:17] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: What does that do?
[02:18] <broken-xfce-desk> dialogue box
[02:18] <broken-xfce-desk> unable to load failsafe session
[02:18] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Ctrl-Alt-F6      df
[02:19] <broken-xfce-desk> lol
[02:19] <broken-xfce-desk> just did that
[02:19] <kye_> #ubuntu cant connect to wireless network
[02:19] <usr13> broken-xfce-desk: Tell us what the highest percentage is?
[02:19] <broken-xfce-desk> oh shit 100%
[02:19] <broken-xfce-desk> what
[02:19] <broken-xfce-desk> on my primary
[02:21] <broken-xfce-desk> K i deleted some stuff
[02:21] <broken-xfce-desk> leme tretry
[02:24] <broken-xfce-desk> worked
[02:25] <broken-xfce-desk> man
[02:25] <broken-xfce-desk> that was
[02:25] <broken-xfce-desk> intresting
[02:34] <Tankwish> Hello channel
[02:35] <broken-xfce-desk> clear
[02:36] <broken-xfce-desk> derp
[02:36] <pmenon> hey all, does anyone have experience successfully creating a bootable usb on osx ?
[02:40] <jeff3864> Is there anyone here that would mind helping me with a problem concerning ubuntu and a chromebook?
[02:42] <Beldar> jeff3864, If that OS is supported you would need to state the issues for help to the channel.
[02:43] <Dtgreat> Hi guys, anyone have a moment to help me troubleshoot a weird dbus error?
[02:43] <Beldar> !details | Dtgreat to the channel
[02:44] <Dtgreat> Cool, 12.04 trying to run any GUI app , it's shooting out error:Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=735a50f3c9968f206a89109000000001 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n on vino/sabnzbd anything really
[02:45] <jeff3864> alright, i have chrubuntu installed on a acer c720 at the moment and my friend wants me to git rid of the chrome os partition of the laptop i have a usb stick witch i put ubuntu 13.10 on with unetbootin. I can get to the unetbootin page but no matter what i try to do from there it spits the error "not enough memory to load specified image"
[02:46] <broken-xfce-desk> jeff3864, why not just do it through parted magic?
[02:46] <broken-xfce-desk> it has lower memory requirements
[02:47] <broken-xfce-desk> careful about the EFI and stuff though, that got me when I was doing my pixel
[02:47] <broken-xfce-desk> for the first time
[02:47]  * jonbryan pays attention.
[02:47] <jonbryan> going to buy teh next gen c720 when i can get ahold of one
[02:48] <james-ubc> lol
[02:48] <james-ubc> yeah chromebooks are amazing man
[02:48] <jeff3864> i have always used unetbootin, never actually heard of parted magic
[02:48] <Dtgreat> I got to play with a couple chromeboxes.
[02:48] <james-ubc> i got the pixel for about 700 after IO
[02:48] <Dtgreat> I like them
[02:48] <james-ubc> from a friend
[02:48] <jonbryan> carrying a macbook around is like carrying a couple bricks
[02:49] <james-ubc> have you triedthe new rMBPs?
[02:49] <james-ubc> they're pretty awsome
[02:49] <jonbryan> i have one
[02:49] <james-ubc> don't like them?
[02:49] <jonbryan> i love it, but not to carry around
[02:49] <james-ubc> yah I guess
[02:50] <james-ubc> I'm waiting for a cheap ARM chromebook
[02:50] <james-ubc> with 2560x1440 or higher display
[02:50] <jonbryan> new c720 seems perfect, 4GB of ram
[02:50] <james-ubc> actually 1080p would worktoo i guess
[02:51] <glitsj16> pmenon: have you tried any of the routines mentioned on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick yet?
[02:51] <pmenon> glitsj16: I have, I can create the usb itself fine, but the bootloader doesn't recognize the USB
[02:52] <jeff3864> does anyone have a sugestion for me that dosent involve a payed software?
[02:52] <pmenon> I've tried inserting the USB itself at various points, including before and after pressing/holding alt/option
[02:53] <james-ubc> jeff3864, oh sorry
[02:53] <james-ubc> forgot they went that route
[02:53] <james-ubc> there's gparted live cd
[02:53] <glitsj16> pmenon: i think rEFInd is what you need in that case .. http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/refind.html
[02:53] <james-ubc> pretty muc hthe same
[02:53] <jonbryan> pfft. who pays for software!?
[02:55] <james-ubc> well
[02:55] <james-ubc> I just bought sublime and insync a few months ago
[02:55] <james-ubc> >_>
[02:55] <jeff3864> so im assuming that the problem i am running into is because the drive is partitioned for ubuntu and chrome os the drive is too small to even run a live usb?
[02:57] <Dtgreat> Figured it out...
[02:58] <webfox> Is there a default root password for Ubuntu by any chance? Because I don't remember having declared one.
[02:58] <jonbryan> you tried no pass?
[02:58] <Beldar> webfox, nope
[02:59] <Beldar> webfox, your password is superuser access
[02:59] <Beldar> jonbryan, Could you stick to support?
[03:01] <Beldar> james-ubc, same for you Could you stick to support? If we randomly comment it makes the channel hard to follow is all when mixed with people needing help
[03:02] <morten77> if I can access a diskette with sudo mdir but not with the filemanager, what is wrong?
[03:04] <morten77> I also have tried to mount the floppy manually with   sudo mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/myfloppy  but it doesn't help - I don't get any error then but the /mnt/myfloppy is still empty (and the diskette is not)
[03:05] <Bashing-om> webfox: root password locked by default See: ->https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:08] <jeff3864>  Alright, I have gparted on a usb stick (again using unetbootin) and i get to the unetbootin screen when i tell it to boot into gparted live (default settings) it flashes the screen and says automatic boot in 30seconds. after those 30 seconds the process starts over again
[03:10] <fat> is it possible to set F1 to switch to first workspace? (top left)
[03:12] <Beldar> jeff3864, What OS are you using to load the usb, there are handfuls of loaders maybe another will work better, I assume the ISO is a good download.
[03:13] <jeff3864> I am using windows 7 to load the iso
[03:15] <waneck> Hello
[03:16] <Beldar> jeff3864, This site has multiple usb's for multiple OS types. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[03:16] <waneck> I'm having some trouble trying to install build-essential:i386 on a x64 machine running ubuntu 13.10
[03:16] <waneck> I haven't added any unstable source as far as I am aware
[03:17] <waneck> I'm getting messages like: build-essential:i386 : Depends: gcc:i386 (>= 4:4.4.3) but it is not going to be
[03:17] <waneck> Any ideas on how I could debug this?
[03:18] <waneck> my current gcc version is 4.8.1
[03:33] <runelind> has anyone built openssh 6.5 for saucy or know where I can add a repo for it?
[03:33] <webfox> ok guys, thank you. I got the idea.
[03:33] <webfox> Now I am wondering how to use old /etc/init.d/conselo-setup setupcon at Ubuntu 13.10 ?
[03:34] <hetero> Just curious: is it possible to get malware by installing something using "sudo apt-get install", or is everything vetted that can be installed using "sudo apt-get install"?
[03:34] <runelind> hetero: technically possible, but unlikely.
[03:35] <hetero> runelind, everything that you can get from "sudo apt-get" are from certain repositories though right? So a random person can't just put up stuff that is installable through "sudo apt-get"
[03:36] <runelind> hetero: the ubuntu repositories are signed by ubuntu devs
[03:36] <hetero> runelind, cool so chances are low, thx!
[03:36] <runelind> hetero: so you know that at least someone with ubuntu keysigning authority has looked at it.
[03:37] <hetero> runelind, though not full-proof that definitely makes me feel more secure
[03:40] <Beldar> hetero, That is all weighing on the ubuntu repos are only there, no 3rd parties.
[03:40] <b4rbz> can someone tell me why webgl works for me in firefox but not chrome
[03:41] <hetero> Beldar, right, by default only the ubuntu repos should be there though right?
[03:41] <Beldar> hetero, yeah.
[03:41] <yazdmich> how do i copy a folder without preserving permissions (copy from root to another user)
[03:41] <righyt> How to select the network card on which my server will be listen for DHCP3 in ubuntu ???? help
[03:42] <b4rbz> anyone?
[03:43] <Beldar> !patience | b4rbz
[03:44] <yazdmich> when i attempt to transfer my znc config directory (.znc/) to a dedicated user, i get [ ** ] Unrecoverable config error.
[03:45] <^Mike> When I open the control panel, select bluetooth, and turn it on, nothing happens. There's no bluetooth indicator showing either. But when I run hciconfig, it shows that hci0 is "UP RUNNING", and I can also scan with hcitool. What do I need to do to get the GUI to work right?
[03:53] <utut> when i run /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server i don't get OK
[03:54] <utut> does it mean it's started
[03:54] <utut> how to start dhcp in ubuntu ????
[03:55] <utut> help
[03:56] <utut> help please !!!
[03:57] <Beldar> utut, Curb the helps and have some patience please.
[04:01] <dearcarr0t> hello guys
[04:06] <charlie> Im trying to install Goggle Earth and it displays this error message " Dependency is not satisfiable:ia32-libs" Does anyone know what that is?
[04:13] <tiblock> Hi. I want update+upgrade, i do "apt-get update&upgrade" and it freezes on "Reading package lists... Done". Am i doing it wrong?
[04:13] <Beldar> tiblock, Run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:14] <tiblock> Beldar, yes, i know. But is "update&upgrade" wrong?
[04:14] <Beldar> not sure never seen that command however tiblock use nicks here.
[04:14] <Beldar> oops sorry you did my bad
[04:15] <EITsLocks> tiblock: I use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:15] <dearcarr0t> so do i .
[04:17] <tiblock> Beldar, EITsLocks, okay. Thank you.
[04:17] <EITsLocks> if you know for a fact you want to install the upgrades add the -y flag
[04:23] <komyc> i can't start dhcp in ubuntu after typing /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server restart i get "  Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service isc-dhcp-server restart  Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) and then start(8) utilities, e.g. stop isc-dhcp-server ; start isc-dhcp-server. The restart(8) utility is also availab
[04:24] <komyc> ???
[04:26] <komyc> ?
[04:27] <komyc> anyone ?!
[04:35] <xutl> how to slove this error ? ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ rstudio  /usr/local/R-Studio/bin/R-Studio: error while loading shared libraries: librs_linux_r.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ rstudio --HELP /usr/local/R-Studio/bin/R-Studio: error while loading shared libraries: librs_linux_r.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:36] <menturi> Hello; I have a general linux question I need help with. I have a program not 'installed' but I moved it to '/opt/myprogram'. When I 'cd' to this folder, I can do './sage' to run the program. However, I would like to make it so I can run this program by just doing 'sage' in the terminal. So I tried doing this without success: 'export PATH=$PATH:/opt/myprogram'. Doing 'sage' in terminal says it is unrecognized. What am I doing w
[04:36] <menturi> rong?
[04:37] <microracerstella> so uhh i do not have a mouse cursor visible.
[04:38] <Beldar> microracerstella, Have you ever had one, any details leading up to this pertinent?
[04:39] <microracerstella> i installed ubuntu on this ancient dell desktop, the 12.04 lte version - works great but the mouse cursor is not visible, i have to pretty much guess where the click point is
[04:40] <Beldar> microracerstella, It was seen on the live cd/usb?
[04:41] <microracerstella> um... can't remember... installed it 3 weeks back now...
[04:41] <varunendra> menturi, does this program need you to be in its own directory? Maybe it is looking for its support files in the "Current" directory?
[04:42] <microracerstella> i've tried changing theme packages but no use
[04:43] <Beldar> microracerstella, I would look through these and see if anything stands out, for example a graphic driver and graphic hardware types. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=12.04+mouse+cursor+missing&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=ZSoIU8zpCoW8oQTguYDgAQ
[04:43] <microracerstella> think it might be a xorg issue?
[04:44] <Beldar> microracerstella, Not sure I see that mentioned, pretty rare thing so.....
[04:44] <xutl> how to slove this error ? ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ rstudio  /usr/local/R-Studio/bin/R-Studio: error while loading shared libraries: librs_linux_r.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ rstudio --HELP /usr/local/R-Studio/bin/R-Studio: error while loading shared libraries: librs_linux_r.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:45] <Bray90820> Anyone have any experience with the Dell S2440l moniter
[04:46] <menturi> I'm not sure if it needs to be in it's own directory; are you suggesting it may be split up? varunendra: I am able to run it though if I cd to it and simply do './sage'; it runs fine.
[04:46] <Bray90820> The white balance seems to be way to high when when I use ubuntu with that moniter
[04:47] <menturi> I don't think there are any issues with support files.
[04:47] <varunendra> menturi, if you 'cd' to it, you are in that very same directory. Running it from another directory (via links or defining path) is not the same thing.
[04:47] <menturi> No links.
[04:48] <varunendra> menturi, is this "sage" file a standalone single file application?
[04:49] <menturi> No it is not.
[04:49] <Bray90820> Or if anyone can tell me how to turn the white balance down in ubuntu That would work as well
[04:50] <microracerstella> ty for the suggestion though, possibly an ancient graphics card, possibly an ati graphics issue, have to dig ty for suggestions
[04:50] <varunendra> menturi, I'm not very sure that this is indeed the problem, but I know it may be, if the program looks in the 'Current' directory for any other files that it needs to work.
[04:51] <menturi> I don't think the problem is the program; I think the problem is that calling 'sage' (without cding into it) doesn't actually find sage to be called. "No command 'sage' found"
[04:52] <varunendra> menturi, oh, that you didn't mention earlier. Yes, your guess is correct then
[04:52] <EITsLocks> varunendra, I think menturi is onto something here, you have to be in the proper directory
[04:52] <chovy> how come chrome doesn't have a menubar?
[04:53] <EITsLocks> varunendra, add a cd to the beginning of your alias
[04:53] <tty1> Hey guys. So im relatively new to ubuntu but well experienced with linux (gentoo). My question is simple: when i do a dplg --get-selections some packages are listed as "deinstalled" . Can someone help explain this to me, I know it means it is marked for deinstallation, and the "dselect-upgrade" argument will get rif of them. But how exactly did they become slected for deinstall in the first place (most things i remove seem to get removed at the 
[04:53] <tty1> he command and autoremove doesnt seem to remove things set as deinstall)
[04:53] <tty1> so basically what should i do about these "deinstall" packages
[04:53] <varunendra> EITsLocks, it is menturi who has the problem :)
[04:53] <Bray90820> For some reason with the monitor i am using has really high white balance when using it with ubuntu
[04:54] <EITsLocks> tty1, you need to do a purge
[04:54] <EITsLocks> varunendra, yes sorry got my wires crossed there
[04:54] <microracerstella> is there a way to determine the video card type without pulling the hood off and reading the stamp?
[04:54] <menturi> Adding the path to $PATH seemed to not make it so I can do simply 'sage' from anywhere (I used to be able to so I know it is possible :P) without needing to cd into it. Like a CLI program that is installed with a .deb -- I don't need to cd to the executable to be able to run it usually :P
[04:54] <varunendra> EITsLocks, but the error message ("No command 'sage' found") indicates the possibility of a different problem
[04:54] <tty1> EITsLocks, just a "apt-get purge" ?
[04:55] <varunendra> menturi, was the path accepted? Check "echo $PATH"
[04:55] <tty1> EITsLocks, now i know apt-get remove --purge will wipe the config files along with the binaries.. so when you say do a purge are you suggesting that the "deinstall" packages are packages that were uninstalled previously but their config files were left behind?
[04:55] <Beldar> microracerstella, Try lspci in the terminal
[04:55] <EITsLocks> tty1: I use sudo dpkg --purge <package>
[04:56] <EITsLocks> tty1, correct
[04:56] <tty1> EITsLocks, well there are a good 30 packages listed as deinstall, any easy way to get them all?
[04:56] <menturi> Oh O.o I thought it was but it appears it is not now. I since logged out and back in which may have cleared it back to the way it was (maybe? :P). I'll try to re-add it and see what happens.
[04:57] <varunendra> menturi, :P
[04:57] <varunendra> menturi, add it to your .bashrc if you need to make it permanent
[04:57] <menturi> Where would that be located?
[04:57] <varunendra> menturi, in your home, a hidden file due to the leading dot (.)
[04:58] <EITsLocks> tty1, these are my two commands dpkg --get-selections > /home/EITsLocks/Documents/installed.txt then sudo dpkg --purge `dpkg --get-selections | grep <words> | cut -f1`
[04:58] <microracerstella> Geforce2 nvidia vga controller... they have a linux support?
[04:58] <varunendra> menturi, if you are doing this the first time, I strongly recommend to back up the original file first (gedit will automatically do it if you are using it for editing)
[04:58] <tty1> EITsLocks, cool thanks
[04:59] <menturi> I'll definitely make a backup of the file :)
[05:00] <menturi> I'm confused; is $PATH on a per-terminal basis? Donig `echo $PATH` in two different terminals resulted in two different results.
[05:01] <varunendra> menturi, a terminal that was open BEFORE making the changes will not experience the change. Those opened AFTER it will
[05:03] <varunendra> menturi, also, if you are doing it temporarily (like "export PATH=...") then the change will be effective in the current terminal only.
[05:03] <menturi> Okay I think that was my issue when testing -- I was using terminals opened before the change when trying it out :P. Also the auto-reset. Modifying PATH seems to work. I'll test out my changes to .bashrc soon :).
[05:03] <menturi> Thank you for your input.
[05:04] <varunendra> np :)
[05:07] <menturi> It worked! :D Thank you so much for your help.
[05:07] <menturi> Bye bye now.
[05:09] <_gypsy_> who was at scale today
[05:09] <Beldar> !away > zz_megabitdragon
[05:10] <Beldar> AntiSpamMeta, fix your nick
[05:11] <Beldar> !ops | AntiSpamMeta
[05:12] <xutl> I installed wep lq1050+dx linux driver for epson lq1050+ 24pin dot-matrix printer but it is asking for rastertowep to be installed in directory /usr/lib/cups/filter. so i manually copied the file rastertowep file to specified directory but it is still showing the same msg - rastertowep is required to be installed. what to do ?
[05:12] <IdleOne> Beldar: that is an authorized bot, probably had some connection issues. Seems settled now. Thanks for looking out :)
[05:13] <Beldar> IdleOne, Heh, no prob.
[05:14] <Beldar> neglected to look at the whois
[05:16] <xutl> anyone ?
[05:18] <xutl> how to install rastertowep ?
[05:20] <xutl> anyone ?
[05:21] <Venoryk> I'm having issue getting my Rosewill RNX-N300X wireless card working, anybody able to possibly offer assistance? I've tried compiling the driver from the ralink website and about anything else that I can think to no avail.
[05:22] <xutl> I installed wep lq1050+dx linux driver for epson lq1050+ 24pin dot-matrix printer but it is asking for rastertowep to be installed in directory /usr/lib/cups/filter. so i manually copied the file rastertowep file to specified directory but it is still showing the same msg - rastertowep is required to be installed. what to do ? or how to install rastertowep ? saucy 13.10 64bit
[05:22] <Bray90820> For some reason the monitor i am using has really high white balance when using it with ubuntu
[05:23] <addajones> i love ubuntu
[05:24] <Defai> As i :)
[05:24] <ripthejacker> Hi need help setting up SoftAP on my system. I have Wireless USB Adapter TP-Link WN-722.
[05:24] <xutl> Bray90820: is it ok with other OS, windows etc ? try live ubuntu and see if its same problem or not
[05:25] <Bray90820> kutl it's not ok with live ubuntu
[05:25] <Bray90820> xutl: it's not ok with live ubuntu
[05:25] <Bray90820> but it is ok with windows and osx
[05:25] <xutl> Bray90820: whats the bale type of your monitor ? vga monitors had this problem when cable got damaged
[05:26] <xutl> Bray90820: hmm, whats the make and model of your monitor ?
[05:28] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, How can I setup a SoftAP using my USB Wireless adapter?
[05:28] <ripthejacker> The device came with a software on windows and it's working fine , so how can I do the same in linux?
[05:28] <ripthejacker> I'm referring to an infrastructure hostpot. Ad-hoc hotspot doesn't work with newer android version I suppose, because I tried the hotspot functionality in ubuntu network manager and my phone couldn't detect it, whereas an older phone did.
[05:29] <Beldar> ripthejacker, Sounds like you can set it up but the phone does not see it right?
[05:30] <Beldar> ripthejacker, Can't you just use the wifi signal, or is this for when you're away from it.
[05:31] <Venoryk> I have a device showing as Non-VGA unclassified device when I do lspci, I know it's my wifi card, but I can't get it to work?
[05:31] <xutl> I installed wep lq1050+dx linux driver for epson lq1050+ 24pin dot-matrix printer but it is asking for rastertowep to be installed in directory /usr/lib/cups/filter. so i manually copied the file rastertowep file to specified directory but it is still showing the same msg - rastertowep is required to be installed. what to do ? or how to install rastertowep ? saucy 13.10 64bit
[05:31] <ripthejacker> Beldar: Yes
[05:32] <Beldar> ripthejacker, That for both questions?
[05:32] <ripthejacker> Beldar: but using the software provided I can setup on windows and my phone can detect
[05:32] <ripthejacker> Beldar: for the first question
[05:32] <Bray90820> xutl: what is bale
[05:32] <Bray90820> Dell s2440l
[05:32] <Beldar> ripthejacker, works in windows means nothing here so.....
[05:32] <ripthejacker> Beldar: for 2nd question, I don't have a wifi connection, I have a cable broadband that I use for my PC.
[05:33] <ripthejacker> Beldar: yes I know , what I'm implying is that the device and my phone works fine.
[05:34] <Beldar> ripthejacker, Sounds like the problem is the phone, and ubuntu is working correctly. If it were me I would be looking for info on the phone. works fine is not a cause and effect in linux so not relevant, nor does it mean it will work in linux.
[05:34] <xutl> Bray90820: nothing, I was writing cable and it got mistyped to bale, but if your monitor is working fine with windows then cable is fine, maybe your live ubuntu disk is not properly prepared
[05:34] <Bray90820> HDMI
[05:35] <Beldar> probably will some way, but not helpful info is all
[05:35] <xutl> Bray90820: whats the make and model of your monitor ?
[05:35] <Bray90820> xtr: it's also that way when i install ubuntu
[05:35] <Bray90820> Dell s2440l
[05:36] <Diplomatico> Hello, I had some errors upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10, how do I finish the upgrade?
[05:36] <Beldar> Diplomatico, where are you at now on the OS, a reboot still on 13.04?
[05:37] <Diplomatico> It says 13.10, but when it starts a lot of lines say files missing, unable to load, etc...
[05:37] <Bray90820> xutl: the male and model is dell s2440l
[05:37] <ripthejacker> Beldar: I checked on ubuntu forums and it's verified that the hotspot created by ubuntu doesn't work on newer android devices, as ubuntu creates an ad-hoc hotspot
[05:37] <Beldar> Diplomatico, So no desktop?
[05:38] <ripthejacker> Beldar: But the phone requires an infrastructure hotspot.
[05:38] <Diplomatico> Yes, in fact i'm using right now 13.10/
[05:38] <Beldar> Diplomatico, try this command sudo apt-get -f install
[05:38] <Diplomatico> It looks functional, but I know there was an upgrade halt ...
[05:38] <Diplomatico> ok
[05:39] <xutl> Bray90820: upload a screenshot of your monitor white balance
[05:39] <Beldar> ripthejacker, I'm not sure of an exact answer, sounds like your looking around though, hope you getter workin.
[05:39] <Diplomatico> Done it, Beldar.
[05:39] <jamshid> Hello guys, I want to join Laravel channel. What is their IRC channel address? anyone know here?
[05:39] <Bray90820> xutl: what do you mean
[05:40] <Beldar> Diplomatico, And what happened?
[05:40] <Diplomatico> Let me show you:
[05:40] <Diplomatico> Last three lines:
[05:40] <Diplomatico> dpkg: error processing oracle-java8-installer (--configure):
[05:40] <Diplomatico>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:40] <Diplomatico> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:40] <Beldar> jamshid, #Laravel
[05:40] <Beldar> !pastebin | Diplomatico
[05:40] <xutl> connect your monitor, boot with ubuntu, take monitors screenshot and upload on www.tiikoni.com/tis/upload
[05:41] <Diplomatico> Sorry.
[05:41] <Diplomatico> You want me to pastebin all the output, Beldar?
[05:41] <jamshid> Thank you very much Beldar.
[05:41] <Bray90820> xutl: do you wanna see how bad the white balance is in ubuntu
[05:41] <Beldar> Diplomatico, Java 8 would be in a ppa, so it seems to be a problem, it should have been shut off for a upgrade.
[05:42] <Beldar> 3rd party anyway
[05:42] <xutl> Bray90820: yes, coz this post says your monitor has a general high white balance
[05:42] <xutl> http://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-s2440l Bray90820
[05:42] <Diplomatico> Ok, what do i have to do??
[05:42] <Diplomatico> Beldar?
[05:42] <Bray90820> Alright i will send a screenshot
[05:43] <Bray90820> brb
[05:43] <Beldar> Diplomatico, I would purge the ppa if it were me and try again or use java 7
[05:43] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | Diplomatico
[05:43] <Diplomatico> I'll try that!!
[05:44] <Beldar> Diplomatico, I assume it's a ppa here though, so be sure you understand whats up is all.
[05:44] <Diplomatico> Ok...
[05:49] <phuh_> What's the most popular symmetric and the most popular asymmetric encryption algorithms today?
[05:50] <Beldar> phuh_, That is a poll, and bound to only get opinions at best.
[05:51] <ResQue> if i run dd of=/dev/sda2 it would only effect sda2 right, it would stop at the end of partition two, leaving parition sda3 uneffected. Ciould someone please just confirm this
[05:52] <ice9> how to install the ia32 libs on 13.10?
[05:55] <Beldar> ice9, This  the google earth missing package?
[05:56] <ice9> Beldar: no, its for android sdk
[05:57] <Beldar> ice9, Have you looked here? http://askubuntu.com/search?q=+ia32+libs
[05:59] <Bray90820> xutl:  ubuntu screenshot https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Screenshot%20from%202014-02-21%2023%3A45%3A19.png
[05:59] <Bray90820> osx screenshot https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Screen%20Shot%202014-02-21%20at%2011.51.18%20PM.png
[05:59] <Bray90820> Do you see a different with those screenshots or am i amagining that osx is better
[06:00] <Bray90820> imagining
[06:00] <xutl> Bray90820: Error 404, page not found - both
[06:00] <Bray90820> xutl: Those links are dead hang on
[06:02] <Bray90820> xutl: OSX screenshot https://www.dropbox.com/s/8xdku4k18bca9gm/Screen%20Shot%202014-02-21%20at%2011.51.18%20PM.png
[06:03] <Bray90820> Ubuntu screenshot https://www.dropbox.com/s/ha8t8j36m24r244/Screenshot%20from%202014-02-21%2023%3A45%3A19.png
[06:03] <Bray90820> I don't know if that kind of screenshot will work tho
[06:04] <Bray90820> I may need to actually take a picture of it with a camera
[06:04] <xutl> scrrenshot looks good here
[06:05] <rogerslurchers> I see a screenshot of an empty Unity desktop
[06:06] <Bray90820> rogerslurchers: it is suppose to show bad white ballance
[06:06] <xutl> rogerslurchers: yes, but do you see the ubuntu scrrenshot to be fine or bad with white balance
[06:06] <Bray90820> xutl: let me check on a different computer
[06:07] <rogerslurchers> Yes, but I am on my mobile phone
[06:10] <Bray90820> xutl: it's not correctly showing up I will give you different links
[06:10] <xutl> Bray90820: haha, be happy that its good, don't force it to show something wrong lol
[06:12] <Bray90820> xutl: nevermind nothing is going to work
[06:12] <xutl> Bray90820: well, you can update drivers and see, if you really want to test
[06:14] <xutl> but as the post, which I linked before states, your monitor has a general high white balance
[06:17] <gregoryforlinux> hey
[06:38] <bray90820> xutl: so i basicly fixed the probelum
[06:39] <bray90820> my dad couldn't tell there was a probelum so we traided
[06:39] <xutl> bray90820: exchange ?
[06:39] <bray90820> yeap
[06:40] <xutl> lol
[06:40] <xutl> thats not fixing but your load of problems on others head
[06:40] <bray90820> Altho i am back to a weird moniter where my ps3 doesn't connect
[06:41] <xutl> haha, enjoy the same with its pros and cons
[06:43] <bray90820> I don't really ever need to connect a ps3 to it anyways
[06:43] <Diplomatico> One bug i found just now after upgrading to 13.10 is that the shift+" and shift+@ are interchanged...
[06:48] <michael_p> hi
[06:54] <Diplomatico> Can't access youtube.com
[07:00] <michael_p> i think its gone quiet here
[07:00] <michael_p> i am deciding should update to ubuntu 13.10
[07:01] <limak> michael_p: can you help me on 301 redirect?
[07:01] <michael_p> sorry noob here
[07:01] <limak> i need to redirect example.com to some other website but not example.com/help
[07:04] <Defai> Meta tag "refresh" can help redirect
[07:04] <Defai> Or you mean... Ah, ok. /etc/hosts?
[07:06] <Beldar> michael_p, Update from what release?
[07:07] <Beldar> michael_p, 13.04 is eol
[07:07] <michael_p> whats eol
[07:08] <Beldar> !eol | michael_p
[07:08] <michael_p> oh end of life
[07:08] <Defai> Hmm, so, i also need to update...
[07:09] <Defai> Is it a good idea, to wait to 14.04 lts release?
[07:09] <michael_p> is that in beta now
[07:10] <Defai> (i use 13.04)
[07:10] <Beldar> Defai, Well 13.04 is not supported here, you would have to go through 13.10 to upgrade.
[07:10] <Defai> Michael: yes, and i not want to use beta, because i'm not "profi"
[07:11] <_gypsy_> why is it a pain in the ass to install a theme on ubuntu?
[07:11] <Defai> :) it is really the pain in ass! I also wanna more simple themes management...
[07:16] <Tom1> hello
[07:16] <michael_p> unfortinate i have to do the long way around
[07:16] <Defai> Hello hello
[07:16] <Chrizby> Anyone here who can help me with a bunch of errors I'm receiving when trying to get ndiswrapper to work?
[07:17] <Beldar> Chrizby, Do we guess them?
[07:17] <Defai> Chri, paste errors me, in privat...
[07:18] <Beldar> Defai, keep it in the channel
[07:19] <Defai> Beldar, ok... (but why?)
[07:19] <Aeder> does anyone know how to change the default port for xrdp?
[07:19] <Tom1> Defai: hello
[07:20] <Beldar> Defai, That is how the channel works, you want everyone to see the info.
[07:20] <Chrizby> http://pastebin.com/Eymd79GH
[07:20] <Chrizby> Dont want to flood the channel so theres the error messages/etc ^
[07:21] <Chrizby> Resulting in ""Problem occured when installing software ndiswrapper -dkms "
[07:21] <llutz> Aeder: port=    in xrdp.ini
[07:21] <Defai> Chri, dkms-errors is sometimes when change kernel manually... I'm not know enough
[07:24] <Aeder> thanks
[07:25] <Defai> Chri, "sudo aptitude -f install"?
[07:31] <Aeder> sorry kinda new to linux, how do you exit vi without saving changes? thought it was :q! but i can't get to the command line
[07:31] <Defai> Press escape
[07:31] <Aeder> i did, nothing
[07:32] <Defai> Now :q!
[07:32] <Aeder> uh there you thanks
[07:32] <Aeder> + go
[07:32] <Richard973> anyone with knowledge of icq on ubuntu? i'v a couple of questions
[07:33] <Richard973> is it possible to access icq chatrooms through icq messenger installed in adobe air? cant get any roomlist
[07:33] <Defai> Richard, i use pidgin... Ask your questions
[07:33] <Aeder> ok.. notepad is so much easier :) how do you just open in edit mode?
[07:34] <nisstyre> people still use ICQ?
[07:34] <Richard973> even with pidgin i don't get a room list
[07:34] <Richard973> i mean not making your chatroom but accessing excisting chatrooms
[07:35] <Defai> Richard i don't know
[07:35] <Richard973> i've got pidgin runnen also empathy but none is showing a roomlist
[07:36] <Defai> Aeder: what about using nano? Console as vi, simple as notepad
[07:36] <Richard973> ok ty anyway
[07:39] <Aeder> mostly because i don't know how to open it as administrator to make the changes using the text editor
[07:39] <Chrizby> Where can I find the "Root of the home directory?"
[07:39] <ufoczek> Chrizby: cd $HOME
[07:40] <awaad> Is there any open source application that allows PDF text highlighting?
[07:40] <Defai> Beef
[07:40] <Defai> Sorry, typo
[07:41] <Defai> Aeder, "sudo nano" or "sudo myniceeditor" :)
[07:42] <Aeder> thanks
[07:42] <Shed-34046> Is antivirus needed on ubuntu?
[07:42] <Defai> Aeder, you can edit desktop icon for it :)
[07:42] <Aeder> <--- total noob trying linux for the first time
[07:43] <Beldar> !antivirus | Shed-34046
[07:43] <Defai> Shed never
[07:43] <Defai> :)
[07:43] <Beldar> except where files are then passed to Windows computers
[07:44] <helmut_> hi
[07:44] <Aeder> once ive made the changes do i need to restart xrdp? and is there even a firewall to add exceptions to?
[07:44] <danny> test
[07:44] <Defai> But, it was my first question time ago, also :) and, i was try hard, to find antivirus for Linux :)
[07:44] <Beldar> Defai, You can tab complete nicks so they are correct.
[07:45] <danny> i have install plasma KDE in my ubuntu but my sound is dead
[07:45] <danny> whats wrong of this
[07:45] <danny> ???
[07:46] <Defai> Danny , all soft silent?
[07:46] <danny> can u help me
[07:46] <danny> yes
[08:00] <TTheu> hm..
[08:03] <frankiefiver> Hi, I am having an annoying issue with Ubuntu 13.10. I'm a total n00b with command lines so the ask ubuntu solution someone posted isn't very helpful.
[08:04] <lucasredsn0w> frankiefiver: tell us the problem plz
[08:05] <frankiefiver> Great! I get a message after reawakening my laptop that says "Computer will suspend very soon because of inactivity"
[08:06] <frankiefiver> It seems to stack also. Sometimes I log in and it logs me out again instantly.
[08:06] <frankiefiver> It would be great to be able to disable this warning.
[08:07] <DrAwesome> can someone help me with installing ubuntu on a laptop w/amd radeon graphics?  Stupid installer goes blank when starting up
[08:07] <lucasredsn0w> frankiefiver: seems it is an internel problem
[08:07] <frankiefiver> as in that it is particular to my machine?
[08:08] <lucasredsn0w> frankiefiver: Tell me what you have installed on the ubuntu
[08:08] <frankiefiver> Here is someone else with the same problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/370498/how-to-disable-automatic-suspend-warning
[08:09] <xutl> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=141dfd3 why are the names of files on my sd card are scrambled ?
[08:09] <Beldar> DrAwesome, You starting from the desktop?
[08:10] <Jordan_U> xutl: What filesystem? What created these files?
[08:10] <frankiefiver> I am running ubuntu 13.10 on an Samsung Series 9 NP900X3C-A01US
[08:11] <DrAwesome> Beldar - no, I can't even get to the desktop...the live drive will start booting and then will go to a blank screen...I can drop to tty with trl+Alt+F1 but it wont load the desktop with Ctrl+Alt+F7
[08:11] <Beldar> !nomodeset | DrAwesome
[08:12] <xutl> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=6b29d83 Jordan_U
[08:13] <DrAwesome> problem is I'm on a UEFI machine...it won't let me edit kernel boot parameters unless I switch it to CSM boot
[08:14] <xutl> these were files but now showing like this with size 0bytes, I don't know how this happened
[08:14] <xutl> Jordan_U: ^^^
[08:14] <DrAwesome> I
[08:14] <Shed-34046> Beldar I have other windows computers on the same network..
[08:14]  * DrAwesome is going to give it a shot and see what happens...brb
[08:14] <Shed-34046> Beldar can a windows virus spread from this ubuntu machine to a windows machine via the home network?
[08:15] <xutl> some random msg every now and then - <aahhh> striptis en directoooo http://s422803032.mialojamiento.es
[08:15] <Beldar> Shed-34046, Not sure
[08:16] <scorpions> hello
[08:16] <Beldar> DrAwesome, Have you seen this wiki?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[08:16] <xutl> Beldar: [13:39] <xutl> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=141dfd3 why are the names of files on my sd card are scrambled ? is this some kind of ubuntu or windows virus ? I inserted the sd card in windows machine also
[08:17] <Beldar> xutl, Why are you asking me?
[08:17] <xutl> Beldar: you were answering some else on same thing
[08:17] <xutl> someone*
[08:17] <Beldar> xutl, Not really in the details
[08:18] <xutl> anyways, whats your thought about the scrambled names ?
[08:19] <Beldar> no idea
[08:19] <xutl> I tried recovery with testdisk but no use, same results - scrambled names with size 0 bytes
[08:20] <Beldar> xutl, You had one of the top helpers here helping you by the way.
[08:21] <xutl> hmm, but seems he got busy with something else, nothing against him by asking you, thnx to all who help or try to help
[08:22] <xutl> Jordan_U: ??
[08:29] <Shed-34046> Is it possible to buy a computer with ubuntu preinstalled?
[08:30] <zeitue> try photorec to get your files back
[08:30] <Shed-34046> Like a non used laptop that has ubuntu installed out of the box
[08:30] <zeitue> Shed-34046: yes indeed would you like cheaper or more expensive in power?
[08:30] <bazhang> Shed-34046, system76 and zareason come to mind, perhaps dell as well
[08:32] <xutl> zeitue: ok, but the problem with photorec is that it searchs for all kinds of files on whole filesystem which results in thousands of files with random file number anmes and searching among them is like impossible
[08:32] <zeitue> http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/ & http://solaptop.com/en/products/laptops/ Shed-34046:
[08:33] <zeitue> xutl: what type of files are you trying to get?
[08:33] <xutl> zeitue: is there any way to search for those files with specific requirments like txt only and of specific size ? text files
[08:33] <cloneG> ubuntu 12.04 how to make gspeaker tell calendar tasks at startup?
[08:34] <zeitue> you could use regexxer search tool to look though the text?
[08:34] <xutl> !regexxxer
[08:35] <xutl> !regexxer
[08:36] <xutl> ok
[08:37] <xutl> another question, how to install rastertowep ?
[08:38] <xutl> how to install restertowep in /usr/lib/cups/filter folder ?
[08:42] <eugenmayer> Hello. Installed to 12.04 servers on my proxmox  ( KVM ) hypervysor. Both seem to work very slow, logging in even takes for ever. Debian Guests though work without issues
[08:43] <eugenmayer> Any suggestions?
[08:43] <cfhowlett> !server|eugenmayer,
[08:43] <xutl> how to install restertowep in /usr/lib/cups/filter folder ?
[08:44] <eugenmayer> cfhowlett: iam not sure how this should help me. Ofc i used the server edition.
[08:45] <cfhowlett> eugenmayer, so the server channel probably has someone familiar with your scenario as opposed to the mostly desktop users here?
[08:46] <eugenmayer> ah. Sorry. Pretty large statement and the last one is important. Thank you!
[08:48] <Shed-34046> How do i use the apt-get -f thing?
[08:49] <BlueSapphire> apt-get -f install <package name>
[08:50] <xutl> Shed-34046: man apt-get and read for detailed info
[08:50] <mmk22> hi. how I can convert character to char code in xml ? I've try string-codepoints but the function is not found ... any can help ? I should use xslt 1.0
[08:58] <henkpoley> I want to boot an ubuntu 12.04 system temporarily into read-only mode, how do I do this from grub?
[09:00] <Shed-34046> Did i do something stupid?
[09:01] <Shed-34046> I ran dpkg command to try to install opera but now i am getting
[09:01] <Shed-34046> Updating software catalog...this may take a moment.
[09:01] <Shed-34046> INFO:softwarecenter.db.pkginfo_impl.aptcache:aptcache.open()
[09:01] <Shed-34046> WARNING:softwarecenter.db.update:The file: '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/sonic-visualiser:x-sonicvisualiser-layer.desktop' could not be read correctly. The application associated with this file will not be included in the software catalog. Please consider raising a bug report for this issue with the maintainer of that application
[09:01] <cfhowlett> !opera
[09:01] <henkpoley> ah, apparently rw,errors=remount-rw partitions are mounted by setting the error bit. So `mount` says it's still "rw", but you can't write anything.
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Shed-34046, opera is in the software center - no dpkg required
[09:02] <Shed-34046> henkpoley and cfhowlett i ran dpkg  i think i made an error happen lol
[09:03] <Shed-34046> when i did apt-get update && apt-get upgrade it said do dpkg --configure -a
[09:03] <Shed-34046> i did and it did all that would that have fixed the error if i caused any?
[09:05] <Linnak> Hi, I have  16 settings option in screen resolution settings from 720x440 to 1920x1080, but  I need to add another two. 1360x768 and 1600x900. How to do that nowdays?
[09:05] <yancey> Just a random question: I am trying to create a .desktop file to run the .jar file for the feed the beast modpack launcher using java, this is so I can put the launcher on my unity bar...instead an ugly .jar file that looks like a box on my desktop...any ideas?
[09:08] <Shed-34046> cfhowlett how can i fix the error
[09:09] <yancey> I am trying to create a .desktop file to run the .jar file for the feed the beast modpack launcher using java, this is so I can put the launcher on my unity bar...instead an ugly .jar file that looks like a box on my desktop...any ideas?
[09:12] <xutl> how to install restertowep in /usr/lib/cups/filter folder ? anyone
[09:15] <mmk22> hi. how I can convert character to char code in xml ? I've try string-codepoints but the function is not found ... any can help ? I should use xslt 1.0
[09:32] <nickoe> Hello. I have an odd problem. I have two users on a ubuntu 13.10, where I cannot login into the one user.
[09:33] <MACscr> nickoe: do you get an error?
[09:34] <nickoe> I have tried to become root with sudo su, then passwd myuser, and then change it. I have also tried the graphical way, initially it said it was deactivated,  and I could not activate it even though I told it to do so. Lastly I  passwd -u and usermod -g i thin it was.
[09:34] <nickoe> MACscr: I get the error, su: Authentication failure     I am on a local machine.
[09:35] <nickoe> MACscr: and I do have a home and shell in passwd   :/home/nickoe:/bin/bash
[09:37] <nickoe> so I find that very odd
[09:38] <Funk3> why should I use linux
[09:39] <SwedeMike> Funk3: http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[09:40] <MysterBlu> Is anyone here good with pc hardware compatibility and Ubuntu?
[09:40] <Funk3> tack så mycket
[09:41] <ethermonk> Funk3, www.prism-break.org/
[09:42] <MACscr> MysterBlu: a laptop im guessing?
[09:43] <MysterBlu> Nope, desktop. Making a side Ubuntu box for light gaming. (steam linux friendly stuff).
[09:43] <okee> help please isc-dhcp-server is not starting up for me and not giving out ip addresses , i keep on getting the output " start: Job failed to start "????
[09:43] <nickoe> MysterBlu: Do you have issues?
[09:43] <Styler2go-Lap> hey guys. i could need some help. my SSD died so i can only read from it, if i try to write it stops working and i have to reconnect the ssd. now i want to mount the ssd as readonly on ubuntu (in a VM). how can i mount readonly?
[09:44] <MysterBlu> No, I just don't know if any of the parts I picked are compatible, nickoe.
[09:44] <Tonxylor> I have a problem: How to install Nvidia GT 755M Driver and Intel® Graphics Drivers in ubuntu 12.04.04?
[09:44] <nickoe> Styler2go-Lap: sudo mount -o ro /dev/sda1 /media/2tb
[09:44] <MACscr> cant really do any there type of gaming besides light with linux =P
[09:44] <nickoe> MysterBlu: but you can just test its?
[09:45] <Styler2go-Lap> how can i disable automount in linux?
[09:45] <okee> ?
[09:45] <MysterBlu> nickoe, I haven't bought the parts yet. It would save me if I didn't have to buy windows anyway if Ubuntu worked already.
[09:45] <Tonxylor> I just install ubuntu 12.04.4 in hard driver, and I have not installed or uninstalled any other applications.
[09:47] <Styler2go-Lap> nickoe: how can i find which media the external ssd has?
[09:47] <nickoe> df
[09:47] <nickoe> alternatively df -h
[09:47] <nickoe> if it is mounted
[09:48] <Styler2go-Lap> hmm i cant find it there
[09:48] <nickoe> MysterBlu: the best is to google the model and ubuntu or linux, then you usually get a lot if it does not work. Is the particular very new?
[09:48] <MysterBlu> Ah I'll do that then
[09:48] <MysterBlu> Thanks :)
[09:49] <okee> help please isc-dhcp-server is not starting up for me and not giving out ip addresses , i keep on getting the output " start: Job failed to start "??
[09:49] <Tonxylor> On my old Pc, I can install Graphics Drivers in additional driver, but I cannot see any Nvidia driver in it now(I buy a Lenovo Y410P-IFI, which use GT 755M).
[09:49] <Styler2go-Lap> nickoe: if its not listed there?
[09:49] <nokiabot> need not worry if its intel
[09:49] <nickoe> Tonxylor: if that thing is like a combined graphics, I think you should remember to install bumblebee for that switching to work
[09:50] <nn> Test
[09:50] <nickoe> Styler2go-Lap: ls /dev |grep sd
[09:50] <nickoe> nn: 123
[09:51] <Styler2go-Lap> nickoe: only "sda"?
[09:51] <Styler2go-Lap> linux is running as live, not installed
[09:51] <nickoe> Styler2go-Lap: are you on a live disk?
[09:51] <Styler2go-Lap> y
[09:51] <nickoe> if that is the only disk you have, then yes, that is is, so like /dev/sda1
[09:52] <Styler2go-Lap> hmm
[09:52] <Styler2go-Lap> but i guess the VM got its own "hdd"
[09:52] <okee> #lubuntu
[09:53] <nickoe> Tonxylor: The nvidia site says tehre are nvidia drivers for linux
[09:53] <nickoe> so I think you are safe
[09:53] <vmusr> Looking for assistance to build xorg.conf file for a dual adapter, 5 monitor configuration
[09:53] <Tonxylor> nickoe: I cannot install any graphics driver in my nb. When i install Nvidia (a *run file), it shows there is an incompatibility software in my system, and when i install intel HD graphics driver ,it showed that it has undepended problem.
[09:54] <nickoe> Tonxylor: usually you don't need to install the driver yourself
[09:55] <nickoe> Tonxylor: But does it not work properly or?
[09:55] <Tonxylor> nickoe: In my old PC, i can install driver from "additional driver". but i;'m using ubuntu in new nb
[09:55] <nickoe> what is nb?
[09:55] <Styler2go-Lap> notebook?
[09:55] <Tonxylor> notebook?
[09:55] <Tonxylor> Yes
[09:56] <Tonxylor> ideapad y410P-ifi
[09:57] <nickoe> but you don't need to install a driver if it works, does it work?
[09:58] <Tonxylor> i have no graphic driver in notebook now.
[09:59] <bekks> Tonxylor: Then you display would be litterly black.
[09:59] <bekks> Tonxylor: which graphics card do you have and what does "I cant install" mean?
[10:00] <nickoe> Tonxylor: ok, then I guess you need to install nvidia-current
[10:00] <Tonxylor> in the "all settings> detials>graphics", i cannot see any graphics.
[10:01] <Tonxylor> i try to install the file from"http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/331.49/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.49.run"
[10:01] <bekks> Tonxylor: You see something on your display, so some driver is in use. No proprietary, just the standard one.
[10:01] <bekks> Tonxylor: Do NOT install thenvidia driver by running that file.
[10:01] <nickoe> Tonxylor: install from repo
[10:01] <bekks> Tonxylor: you have a Optimus chipset most likely, so you will have to install nvidia-prime
[10:01] <nickoe> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[10:02] <Tonxylor> i run sudo sh *{file name}.run
[10:02] <bekks> Tonxylor: Do not run the file.
[10:02] <bekks> !nvidia | Tonxylor
[10:02] <bekks> !hybrid
[10:02] <bekks> hmm.
[10:02] <Styler2go-Lap> lol
[10:02] <Styler2go-Lap> windows gut installed it <5min
[10:02] <Ben64> Tonxylor: first off, don't do "sudo sh" ever, second, don't run the driver from nvidia.com, use the one from ubuntu
[10:03] <bekks> third, install am optimus compatible driver, which is NOT nvidia-current
[10:03] <Styler2go-Lap> sry wrong channel
[10:03] <Ben64> ah optimus, isn't there a nvidia-prime package now?
[10:04] <bekks> Yes.
[10:04] <Tonxylor> OK, I will try right now. Thanks for all of you.
[10:10] <XHeart> hi everyone.
[10:10] <picca> hey XHeart
[10:11] <XHeart> I recently installed a graphics card not supported and it corrupted my start up files on 12.04lts. I am running directly from the CD.
[10:11] <k-rad> can you save youtube.com videos legally on 13.10 ?
[10:11] <XHeart> What command in sudo I need to use to restore the system files on my hard drive?
[10:12] <XHeart> I want to reinstall ubuntu 12.04lts but it is not letting me.
[10:14] <XHeart> is there a command i can download the start up files to my hard drive so I can boot directly from the hard instead of the CD?
[10:15] <vmusr> Looking for assistance to build xorg.conf file for a dual adapter, 5 monitor configuration
[10:18] <XHeart> how can i restore my start up files?
[10:18] <XHeart> i can not use my pc without the CD
[10:18] <XHeart> the ubuntu CD i meant
[10:19] <bekks> XHeart: you have to restore all files needed from the backup you should have taken.
[10:19] <XHeart> i do not think i had back up but i am ok with a fresh start installing ubuntu 12.04lts again.
[10:20] <XHeart> how can i fix the hard drive?
[10:20] <XHeart> Can i download those files?
[10:20] <bekks> XHeart: Why do you think your harddrive is broken? Most likely it is just your installation that is messed up.
[10:21] <bekks> XHeart: If you are ok with a reinstallation, just reinstall. No need to "fix the harddrive".
[10:21] <XHeart> when i reboot it stays in a cursor on a black screen
[10:21] <XHeart> i am working right now with the ubuntu CD
[10:21] <bekks> XHeart: And why do you suspect your harddrive is broken?
[10:21] <bekks> !nomodeset < XHeart
[10:21] <bekks> !nomodeset | XHeart
[10:22] <XHeart> it is not accepting the installation, it does install
[10:22] <bekks> "it is not accepting" - define that please.
[10:22] <XHeart> i went back to the original vga port on the pc
[10:22] <XHeart> it is not installing
[10:22] <bekks> Back from....?
[10:22] <bekks> Why is it not installing?
[10:22] <bekks> !details | XHeart
[10:24] <XHeart> I have a problem re-installing Ubuntu 12.04lts after I install a dual graphic card which later on found it was not supported. I tried to restart but could not.
[10:24] <bekks> Define "could not". Someone next to you preventing you from it?
[10:25] <bekks> XHeart: Please state a clear issue.
[10:25] <vmusr> Looking for assistance to build xorg.conf file for a dual adapter, 5 monitor configuration
[10:26] <XHeart> When I restart my pc stays in a black screen with the cursor flashing on the upper left corner.
[10:26] <bekks> XHeart: Then use the nomodeset kernel option.
[10:26] <bekks> !nomodeset | XHeart
[10:32] <wiebels> is there a pv alternative that plots or exports a graph of transfer speed as a function of time?
[10:32] <bekks> Whats a "pv alternative"?
[10:33] <wiebels> bekks I am testing my HDD's, I have a very unstable transfer rate on my NAS box. Both networking and NAS SSD drive -> NAS HDD drive.
[10:35] <bekks> wiebels: Then you have to get those tranfer rates first. Most likely, the transfer rate of the network is totally unrelated to the disk speed. Totally unrelated.
[10:35] <bekks> And if you are pulling data from your NAS and pushing it back to the NAS, you will get half the speed thats possible.
[10:36] <wiebels> bekks I have a gigabit network, speed fluctuates between 100mbps and 1mbps on the ~5 second scale
[10:37] <wiebels> bekks however even when copying a file from the NAS SSD to the NAS Raid HDD the speed fluctuates with a similar pattern.
[10:37] <wiebels> bekks and thats a copy through a terminal instance
[10:37] <bekks> wiebels: Thats not related to the disk speed then, but to the speed your NAS deals with the data after reading it/before writing it from/to the NAS.
[10:38] <bekks> wiebels: And your setup "reading from the same network device where I am writing the data to" is the worst test method possible.
[10:38] <wiebels> bekks it does allow me to drop network related issues
[10:38] <bekks> wiebels: you cannot distinguish where's the bottleneck at all: the NAS, the network, your computer. Or a single component of the named three.
[10:39] <bekks> wiebels: It does not allow you to drop network related issues, it doubles network related issues.
[10:39] <wiebels> bekks how am I using my network when copying from the NAS HDD to the NAS SSD though a terminal instance?
[10:40] <bekks> wiebels: So are you logged into yo NAS using SSH?
[10:40] <wiebels> bekks yes, correct
[10:40] <bekks> Thats the important information missing :)
[10:40] <bekks> And how do you measure the transfer speed?
[10:40] <bekks> Did you use bonnie++, vmstat, sar, iostat to investigate the issue further?
[10:41] <wiebels> bekks I can SSH, SFTP, FTP and it has a SAMBA share. I used pv through SSH to check transfer rate
[10:41] <bekks> pv is unreliable, totally.
[10:41] <wiebels> bekks in addition I used dd however dd only returns average speed
[10:41] <wiebels> bekks will try bonnie++
[10:41] <bekks> dd without a sane blocksize is misleading.
[10:42] <wiebels> bekks I was writing a 10Gb testfile from Raid HDD to SSD
[10:57] <chro> how can I check the mail server that is running ?
[11:01] <wiebels> bekks bonnie++ doesn't show any odd results on first sight; it also does not present transfer speed as a function of time
[11:09] <sharpshooter> hi friends, today I installed tmux in ubuntu with shell ZSH  but when i use tmux (tmux-2 ) the its rendering behaviour is very different when i user backspace the words are overlapping how to fix it ?
[11:16] <doodle> Hi all
[11:17] <doodle> My machine is crashing too often (i/o error dev sda) - ran smartmontools test - got these results http://www.pastebin.ca/2645199   - could someone help interpret this for me
[11:19] <doodle> My machine is crashing too often (i/o error dev sda) - ran smartmontools test - got these results http://www.pastebin.ca/2645199   - could someone help interpret this for me
[11:20] <ItsMeLenny> hello, i have tried both jdk6 and jdk7 but the java gui is unresponsive in programs (that blue themed gui), does anybody know the problem?
[11:22] <doodle> Can someone please help
[11:22] <sharpshooter> hi friends, today I installed tmux in ubuntu with shell ZSH  but when i use tmux (tmux-2 ) the its rendering behaviour is very different when i user backspace the words are overlapping how to fix it ?
[11:23] <doodle> My machine is crashing too often (i/o error dev sda) - ran smartmontools test - got these results http://www.pastebin.ca/2645199   - could someone help interpret this for me
[11:26] <bekks> doodle: Your disk failing hard, you should save your important data if not already done and reinstall Ubuntu on a new disk.
[11:27] <doodle> bekks: Thanks
[11:27] <doodle> I have backed up my data. I'll need to order a new hdd now
[11:27] <bekks> doodle: Yes. :)
[11:27] <doodle> bekks: no hope, is it?
[11:28] <Sagar69> I want to search a file using find command in all directories in the present directory. How can i ?
[11:28] <bekks> doodle: It's dead, Jim, let it go.
[11:28] <bekks> Sagar69: find . -type f -name yourfilename.txt
[11:29] <LK> hi! does anyone have clue about the pdf reader scroll bug being fixed in 14.04?
[11:29] <LK> ubuntu 13.10 with xfce
[11:29] <doodle> bekks: think I should :( ..if you don't mind, can you tell me what you looked for in the results
[11:30] <hiparc> a
[11:32] <Ben64> doodle: its also possibly a bad cable, port, card, or motherboard
[11:33] <hiparc> got ubuntu
[11:33] <hiparc> got ubuntu
[11:33] <hiparc> got ubuntu
[11:33] <hiparc> got ubuntu?
[11:34] <doodle> ben64: how do I know what's causing the problem?
[11:37] <doodle> ben64: how do I know what's causing the problem?
[11:40] <bekks> doodle: line 53 and line 70.
[11:41] <nate__> hello
[11:41] <Rendar-> Hello nate__
[11:59] <ItsMeLenny> i have tried both jdk6 and jdk7 but the java gui is unresponsive in programs (that blue themed gui), does anybody know the problem?
[12:10] <skeuomorf> guys, I've updated chrome on ubuntu 13.04 and it's been acting weird ever since, the mouse doesn't seem to work inside chrome, even when I click on the window it doesn't focus it, can't navigate between tabs
[12:15] <gregd> guys, my bnep0 interface does not request address via dhcp, even though in network/interfaces it is specified as dhcp and allow-hotplug
[12:15] <gregd> is this a bug? what should i check before i file in a bug?
[12:16] <ernetas> Hey guys
[12:17] <ernetas> Why is this: http://pastebin.com/S1Wui40u giving me this: http://pastebin.com/5aD7tdd6 ?
[12:17] <ernetas> (logrotate)
[12:20] <masood> my ldap server is stopped after ubuntu upgrade from 10.4 to 12.4. Complete question is asked here: http://goo.gl/ZwJRf7 . any idea?
[12:22] <cfhowlett> !server|masood, ask the server channel maybe?
[12:25] <airdem> hey guys i am in ubuntu 12.04 login screen and my laptops mousepad is not working. how can i change the keyboard layout on the top right?
[12:25] <airdem> i dont get there with TAB
[12:26] <airdem> and i have no idea why the mouse isnt working anymore. didnt install anything
[12:28] <OerHeks> airdem, does your laptop have a FN key for wireless/mouse internal-external/sound and more?
[12:29] <airdem> yes but they dont seem to work
[12:29] <airdem> its a lenovo s12
[12:29] <airdem> fn + f6 is for mouse
[12:29] <OerHeks> airdem, oke, that was my wild guess
[12:30] <airdem> ok i just foiund out that my brothewr did an update
[12:30] <airdem> and now its not working anymore (mouse)
[12:30] <count_fuzzball> i'm booting a debootstrap'ed Precise minimal system in a vm and about halfway through all the plymouth messages appear on my screen. This only happened after I installed dbus and dbus-x11 packages. Is there any way to suppress them so the 'echo' messages I have in rc.local appear on their own during boot?
[12:34] <ernetas> Anyone here a big Ubuntu fan?
[12:35] <ernetas> Mind taking a look? http://pastebin.com/s5GEYHS1 Dependency hell.
[12:35] <ernetas> most important 2 lines:
[12:35] <ernetas> initramfs-tools depends on initramfs-tools-bin (<< 0.99ubuntu13.3.1~); however: Version of initramfs-tools-bin on system is 0.99ubuntu13.4.
[12:36] <ernetas> So how the ... am I supposed to recover from broken initramfs upgrade as such? Seems like my machine crashed in the middle of upgrading these two packages and now I simply can't recover from it, just because one of them is already installed and downgrading does not work.
[12:37] <chro> how can I check the mail service being used ???
[12:38] <ernetas> chro: ss -t4lpn should show what processes are listening on what.
[12:39] <ernetas> If it doesn't, you'll have to find it out yourself by checking the process list...
[12:39] <Jicku> ss -t4lpn
[12:39] <chro> ernetas: yes, how can I pin point to the name of the processs ?
[12:40] <llutz> chro sudo lsof -i :25
[12:40] <OerHeks> ernetas, did you perform 'apt-get -f install' as the error sugggested?
[12:40] <ernetas> chro: what do you mean? From ss output? Just look at what's listening on your desired ports ()it depends on what you call mail service...)
[12:40] <ernetas> OerHeks: as you can see in the paste, yes, I did.
[12:41] <chro> I got this
[12:41] <chro> LISTEN     0      100                                                                   *:25
[12:42] <chro> how can I know which mail server is running now ?
[12:42] <ernetas> Second line should show.
[12:42] <ernetas> If it's another port, you can't tell.
[12:42] <ernetas> lsof won't show it as well.
[12:43] <ernetas> So you just have to guess and check every option (by looking at the process list, not config files, as they can be just remaining after unclean uninstall).
[12:44] <ansel> hi
[12:44] <OerHeks> ernetas, try " sudo dpkg --configure -a --force-depends " might solve it
[12:44] <cfhowlett> ansel, greetings
[12:44] <ansel> what
[12:45] <ansel> how are u all ?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> ansel, great.  do you have an ubuntu support question?
[12:46] <chro> how can I list the processes that have open ports ???
[12:46] <Jicku> how can i change the settings of firefox on ubuntu?
[12:46] <ansel_> g
[12:47] <cfhowlett> Jicku, depends on what exactly you want to change - could be firefox preferences or ubuntu's
[12:47] <Jicku> firefoxs
[12:47] <cfhowlett> Jicku, what do you want to change
[12:48] <Jicku> i want to enter the edit and then preferences
[12:48] <Jicku> i just dont know where the button is
[12:49] <cfhowlett> jicku WHAT EXACTLY do you want to change in firefox?
[12:49] <Jicku> proxy
[12:50] <OerHeks> open firefox and see top panel?
[12:51] <Jicku> yes?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> Jicku, firefox>preferences>Network>configure how firefox connects to the internet
[12:51] <cfhowlett> firefox > edit > preferences ...
[13:03] <updatemotd> Hello! i have added a script to /etc/update-motd.d/ directory: 99-myinfo  but it seems not to be added to the login text (motd)
[13:08] <Spl0it_S4in7> Hi.
[13:08] <Spl0it_S4in7> I have disabled shell_exec() function for security purposes , how can i remove that limitation for just one site ?
[13:09] <madumlao> hi guys
[13:09] <madumlao> does anyone have ubuntu running on one of those samsung convertible tablets?
[13:10] <madumlao> im seeing a cheap secondhand samsung ativ smart pc pro 700t on sale somewhere and am thinking of getting it
[13:11] <super-ru> Hey guys, quick question - I am wanting to install version 4.01.0-3ubuntu3 on an amd64 system of the ocaml package but it says "trusty (devel)". Does that mean it's not going to work on my Saucy install?
[13:14] <xubuntu> hi
[13:15] <Guest29111> hi
[13:16] <super-ru> Hey so, anyone know?
[13:16] <super-ru> I've messed up three installs in a row trying to get pfff compiled and installed
[13:17] <super-ru> Using debian binaries
[13:17] <super-ru> lol
[13:18] <daftykins> super-ru: using debian binaries on an ubuntu system and you're wondering what's up. Hrmm.
[13:18] <super-ru> haha
[13:19] <super-ru> Yeah but the binaries I want to use now have "trusty (devel)" next to them, why is that?
[13:19] <daftykins> hmm, beyond guessing at the obvious i've no idea i'm afraid
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !trusty|super-ru,
[13:20] <super-ru> Yes I know
[13:20] <super-ru> Is it written because the binaries are only for 14.04 or they are only available through some repository specific to 14.04 or what
[13:21] <brucevein> how can i take an image of my hard drive, flash it to a usb stick, make it bootable
[13:21] <cfhowlett> super-ru, support for trusty is in the other channel.  best to query them.
[13:21] <super-ru> cfhowlett, see this url http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ocaml - can I install (under exact hits) the last result, on 13.10
[13:21] <super-ru> I'm on 13.10
[13:22] <brucevein> or is it possible to install directly to usb drive from cdrom?
[13:22] <asd> super-ru : i just get my un=buntu installed via usb. to move ubuntu.iso, i use unebootin(in wwindowz).
[13:23] <daftykins> brucevein: rather than that, make a flash drive up as a persistent install.
[13:23] <super-ru> I wasn't the one asking asd
[13:23] <brucevein> daftykin, whats the difference?
[13:23] <brucevein> that would be like a livecd?
[13:24] <daftykins> brucevein: only you can install things and they stay - plus store data
[13:24] <brucevein> daftykins yeah thats exactly what i want
[13:24] <super-ru> cfhowlett what is the other channel you mentioned anyway?
[13:24] <asd> sorry, i meant to brucevein
[13:24] <daftykins> !persistent
[13:24] <daftykins> brucevein: there you go ^
[13:24] <sqrt> hi. is it possible to manually generate an ipv6 temp address? ip addr add etc etc ??
[13:24] <brucevein> thanks guys
[13:24] <cfhowlett> super-ru,  #ubuntu+1 for the next version 14.04
[13:25] <super-ru> ty cfhowlett
[13:25] <justit> hello, have the such problem: openvpn connection started from console doesn't work. It seems as connected, but there works nothing. The same connection manually created with gui network-manager works fine. Furthermore: working config exported from network manager and started from console also not working.
[13:26] <daftykins> justit: and the logs say?
[13:34] <lebafar> Does anybody knows if adobe Brackets text editor is available to Ubuntu and how do I download it via apt-get?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> lebafar, check the software center
[13:35] <fl0w> or apt-cache search
[13:35] <lebafar> ok, thank you!
[13:35] <fl0w> lebafar: http://brackets.io is this what you're talking about?
[13:36] <fl0w> because according to their website, they have "improved linux support"
[13:37] <lebafar> fl0w, yes. exactly it.
[13:37] <ziikutv> hi guys
[13:37] <ziikutv> anyone of you have dualbooted your mac with ubuntu?
[13:37] <lebafar> fl0w, I know I can download via website but then I wouldn't know what to do with the file.
[13:37] <ziikutv> How do i make the trackpad click as a button andnot like a regular track pad?
[13:38] <daftykins> ziikutv: tried the forums / askubuntu ?
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !mac|ziikutv,
[13:38] <ziikutv> another question: I was following this guide to setup rails http://gorails.com/setup/ubuntu/13.10 i tried installing rvm but it was getting stuck.. and rvm command wasnt working so i tried to do something like http://gorails.com/setup/ubuntu/13.10
[13:39] <fl0w> lebafar: They seem to have a .deb package available (which basically is a double-click thing)
[13:39] <ziikutv> and now my terminal is Fully fucked up.. it doesnt even login or anything when i start it.. it just seems like a text editor and no commands are executing.. how to fix?
[13:40] <ziikutv> cfhowlett: that doesnt help at all
[13:40] <ziikutv> so you guys should probably fix that
[13:40] <ziikutv> to !macInstallhelp|xyaname
[13:40] <lebafar> fl0w, right, I guess I am gonna try that just to see what happens.
[13:41] <ziikutv> can someone tell me how to fix my terminal at least?
[13:41] <justit> daftykins, <warn> /sys/devices/virtual/net/tun0: couldn't determine device driver; ignoring...
[13:41] <justit> thats what log says
[13:42] <super-ru> ziikutv does it not respond at all? Try export PS1="\u " or something?
[13:42] <ziikutv> super-ru: It literallylooks like a texteditor now
[13:43] <ziikutv> im trying to take a pic but i forgot how. havent ubuntued since like 10
[13:44] <super-ru> Ctrl+C
[13:44] <super-ru> I assume you mean you're still in the borked terminal window?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> lebafar, download it from the site and use dpkg to install
[13:44] <ziikutv> Ctrl+C closes it
[13:45] <ziikutv> but you see how when terminal starts it sort of "logs in" and you see something like $ ... none of that.. nada
[13:45] <daftykins> justit: http://askubuntu.com/questions/335694/vpnc-has-stopped-working-with-cisco-vpn-gateway-ubuntu-13-04
[13:45] <super-ru> interesting
[13:46] <ziikutv> super-ru: Its sort of like this but on ubuntu :P http://gorails.com/setup/ubuntu/13.10
[13:46] <ziikutv> OMFG
[13:46] <ziikutv> i didnt copy the link
[13:46] <super-ru> Lol
[13:46] <super-ru> You've pasted that link 3 times
[13:46] <ziikutv> Yea
[13:46] <ziikutv> i need to switch the kyboard layout and stuff
[13:46] <ziikutv> http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=789130
[13:46] <ziikutv> but this is more important
[13:47] <lebafar> cfhowlett, and how I am supposed to do that ? If I try to install it via double click Ubuntu Software Center it trows me a message like : Only install this file if you trust the origin.
[13:47] <super-ru> Maybe your theme is messed up and your text matches the background colour?
[13:47] <ziikutv> dude i can see the text fine
[13:47] <ziikutv> its just not BASHING
[13:47] <cfhowlett> lebafar, sudo dpkg -i filenamehere.deb
[13:50] <Art_MOO_Style> Hello
[13:50] <cfhowlett> Art_MOO_Style, greetings
[13:50] <ziikutv> how do i take a picture of this?
[13:50] <lebafar> cfhowlett, cool, thank you, installing it. :D
[13:50] <ziikutv> how do i take a screenshot
[13:50] <cfhowlett> lebafar, have fun, be safe
[13:50] <DJones> !screenshot | ziikutv
[13:51] <ziikutv> DJones: thanks bud.. im on a mac dualbooted so pritnscreen key doesnt exist
[13:51] <crond> ziikutv: you can rebind keys
[13:51] <lebafar> cfhowlett, \o/
[13:51] <DJones> ziikutv: Ah, not sure then, last apple hardware I used was an Apple ][
[13:52] <ziikutv> crond: Yes but to do any of that.. i have to first fix this danm terminal..
[13:52] <crond> ziikutv: if you ctrl+alt+f1 is that tty messed up too?
[13:52] <ziikutv> I took a picture from my phone.. its uploading
[13:53] <crond> ok
[13:53] <ziikutv> what does that doo?
[13:53] <ziikutv> the ctrl alt f
[13:53] <ziikutv> f1
[13:53] <crond> switches to a text only terminal, out of X
[13:53] <crond> you then hit ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to the GUI
[13:54] <crond> you could switch to the terminal on f1, use xmodmap to rebind stuff, then switch back.
[13:54] <ziikutv> I just ctrl alted through f1 - g12
[13:54] <ziikutv> f12 nothing
[13:54] <crond> has ubuntu disabled that? anyone know? I know you can't ctrl+alt+backspace to kill the X server for some reason
[13:55] <ubuntuaddicted> im getting an "error setting permission" when writing to a CIFS mount which hasn't changed server side, i only have installed a new ubuntu version. Where do i start to troubleshoot
[13:55] <super-ru> Oh ziikutv I just realised you're probably on PS4 or something
[13:56] <elia> ciao
[13:58] <ziikutv> super-ru: perhaps..
[13:58] <ziikutv> guys here is a screenshot
[13:58] <ziikutv> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2imdzE8zqUEbjlZMUdQTmNNVE0/edit?usp=sharing
[13:58] <ziikutv> FML!
[13:59] <crond> ziikutv: doesn't load.
[14:00] <super-ru> its a black terminal with no PS1 info and the standard block cursor and he's written on three lines
[14:00] <super-ru> Like he said, just like a text editor
[14:00] <ziikutv> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2imdzE8zqUEbjlZMUdQTmNNVE0/edit
[14:01] <ziikutv> yup
[14:02] <ziikutv> super-ru:  got anu clued as to what i can do?
[14:02] <super-ru> I would just check out /home/<you>/.bashrc to see if it's borked
[14:03] <ziikutv> ok
[14:03] <ziikutv> define borked
[14:03] <super-ru> Well check its modification time first
[14:03] <super-ru> Maybe your attempt to install ruby did something to it
[14:03] <super-ru> I mean RoR
[14:04] <ziikutv> i have enabled hidden files and holders
[14:04] <ziikutv> but... still cant see bashrc
[14:05] <super-ru> just do editor /home/<you>/.bashrc it should be there
[14:05] <super-ru> and if you're using ls, try ls -a
[14:05] <super-ru> Oh wait
[14:05] <super-ru> You have no command prompt lol my mistake
[14:05] <poopuser> Hi. How can I mount iso from command line as a user without need of fstab usage? Fuseiso let me mounts but sets root owner.
[14:05] <ziikutv> this is ....annoying
[14:07] <ziikutv> super-ru: Did u modify ur bashrc? If not.. copy paste contents on pastebin.org or pastie.org and ill save it as bashrc at same location, maybe it will overwriter
[14:07] <super-ru> What version are you on
[14:07] <brucevein> daftykins is there a way to copy the currently installed os to a flash drive
[14:07] <brucevein> or persistent install is the only way
[14:07] <ziikutv> Salamander
[14:07] <super-ru> Um well I'll give you mine but it might be different
[14:08] <super-ru> It's just the default from 13.10
[14:08] <daftykins> brucevein: there are ways you could obtain a list of the installed software you've already put on then install those packages onto the persistent one, then you could just copy your /home directory over and you'd be set
[14:08] <super-ru> http://pastebin.com/tJ6UsgWq
[14:09] <ziikutv> Super!!!!! OMFG
[14:09] <ziikutv> Maybe i have some hope?
[14:09] <super-ru> What
[14:09] <ziikutv> I just got a crash error window
[14:09] <brucevein> daftykins, ive made changes to the kernel, added catalyst drivers, etc
[14:09] <ziikutv> it says the applicaton Bash has stopped working
[14:09] <ziikutv> Sorry, the application bash has stopped unexpecteedly
[14:09] <super-ru> Oh dude
[14:09] <daftykins> brucevein: yeah that'd have to be done again
[14:09] <ziikutv> ?
[14:09] <ziikutv> yes
[14:09] <super-ru> Open up system monitor and close bash
[14:09] <super-ru> Any hung bash processes
[14:10] <ziikutv> there is no bash
[14:10] <ziikutv> there
[14:11] <Peace-> i have not vlc output client for jack http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/22/plasma-desktopEx5907.png
[14:11] <brucevein> daftykins, will the tutorial you sent me work for xubuntu
[14:11] <Peace-> why?
[14:12] <daftykins> brucevein: i can't imagine there'd be any reason it wouldn't
[14:13] <ziikutv> erm i see my bashrc
[14:13] <super-ru> Um ziikutv, sure you're viewing all processes?
[14:14] <ziikutv> i think its like same as yours
[14:14] <ziikutv> i opened the text editor and went to my username folder
[14:15] <ziikutv> Yes
[14:16] <super-ru> You've tried typing exit<enter> and it doesn't quit right
[14:16] <antoHP2>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[14:16] <wiebels> Transfering large files should use memory right?
[14:17] <wiebels> eg a CP of an 8GB file on a HD should use significant memory?
[14:17] <super-ru> No, just the buffer and whatever underrun your system is experiencing
[14:17] <daftykins> wiebels: not necessarily
[14:17] <antoHP2>  load .xchat2/budus.so
[14:17] <wiebels> daftykins and when writing from system SSD to system HDD?
[14:23] <OerHeks> profligacy, there are faster desktops for light machines, Xubuntu is lighter and faster
[14:24] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, ubuntu is a linux distribution, not "a linux". A "linux" is the kernel
[14:25] <profligacy> what's meanty by "distribution"?
[14:25] <profligacy> OS?
[14:25] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, with that said there are faster linux distributions out there. it's really based on the desktop environment
[14:25] <profligacy> what's a desktop environment
[14:25] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, distribution is basically the flavor of linux
[14:25] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, a desktop environment is the graphics user interface
[14:25] <profligacy> what varies from distro to distro?
[14:25] <profligacy> and why do they adapt to  diff desktop environments?
[14:25] <profligacy> does windows funcition like that?
[14:26] <profligacy> you're stuck with their desktop environment right
[14:26] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, i would suggest reading up on the basics of linux. many things vary from distro to distro all the way down to the folder structure, package management etc etc
[14:26] <Super-ru> Anyone know why ctrl+y in ubuntu doesn't seem to work for redo in most apps and instead writes the letter z?
[14:26] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, NO, you can change your DE at anytime
[14:26] <profligacy> no i mean in windows
[14:26] <profligacy> what is a package
[14:27] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, in windows, yes you're stuck with the DE. you can change the theme a little but that's it
[14:27] <profligacy> is it easy to swmitch DEs in ubuntu
[14:27] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, a package is the software or libraries needed to make something work
[14:27] <profligacy> what is the default DE?
[14:27] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, as i said you should go read a basics of linux website
[14:27] <OerHeks> profligacy, sure, install it and choose DE at login
[14:27] <profligacy> is it the uniwnidow
[14:27] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, Unity is the default DE for Ubuntu
[14:27] <profligacy> yeah
[14:27] <profligacy> unity
[14:28] <profligacy> dow do you choose DE at login?
[14:28] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[14:28] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, KDE is the default DE for Kubuntu and XFCE is the default for Xubuntu and LXDE is the default for Lubuntu
[14:28] <profligacy> so many acronyms!!
[14:28] <profligacy> ive heard of kde
[14:28] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, if there's more than one installed, you'd see the option to choose your DE
[14:28] <profligacy> everytime you log in?
[14:28] <profligacy> isn't that inconvenient
[14:29] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, yes IF you have your setup set to always ask for a username and password to login BUT whatever you last choose will be set each time
[14:29] <profligacy> also, in windows you can drag a a window to the left of the screen and it will maximize to occupy teh entire left side of the screen.
[14:29] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, you can set it to auto login if you want.
[14:29] <profligacy> drag a window to the left, and it will do the same on the left
[14:29] <profligacy> drag it up, and it will maximiaze to cover the entire screen
[14:29] <profligacy> is there anyway to have this work on ubuntu
[14:30] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, yes
[14:30] <profligacy> so each user
[14:30] <profligacy> has its own kde
[14:30] <profligacy> *DE
[14:30] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, they can yes
[14:30] <profligacy> ok its simpler than i thought
[14:30] <profligacy> how can i get that effect btw
[14:30] <profligacy> of maximizing windows that way
[14:32] <ubuntuaddicted> profligacy, i don't know
[14:34] <profligacy> ok thanks
[14:37] <neta> can you change owner for a folder and all its children including other olders ?
[14:38] <neta> without going 1 by 1
[14:38] <Super-ru> yes
[14:38] <Super-ru> chown --help
[14:39] <neta> ah just adding a *
[14:39] <neta> that simple
[14:39] <Super-ru> No
[14:39] <Super-ru> That will do the most immediate directories and folders but not their children
[14:39] <neta> moment will read on
[14:39] <Super-ru> chown -v --recursive [owner:group] [file]
[14:40] <Super-ru> Of course you'll need to be elevated
[14:41] <neta> thanks super-ru
[14:43] <Super-ru> That's okay neta
[14:48] <Super-ru> God I love watching compiler output inside of a git repo
[14:48] <Super-ru> It's like watching a pick-and-place electronics assembly line
[14:50] <irgendwer4711> hi, I cant stop or start service cron, said unkown service
[14:51] <irgendwer4711> hi, I cant stop or start service cron, said unkown service
[14:51] <neta> Super-ru i am pretty new to linux/servers ingeneral(2 weeks in it so far) so if that was meant to me i dont know what it means
[14:52] <neta> you cant kill it ?
[14:53] <neta> thats a way to stop it i assume
[14:53] <irgendwer4711> yes could kill, but thats a task for the init scripts
[14:53] <Super-ru> irgendwer4711 try: services --status-all | grep cron
[14:54] <Super-ru> maybe it has another name
[14:54] <Super-ru> Sorry services shouldn't be plural
[14:54] <irgendwer4711> Super-ru:  [ + ]  cron
[14:54] <Super-ru> And yes neta that was for you. In a command prompt if you go to the directory where you wanted to become the owner of all subdirectories then run the script I wrote whilst elevated, it will take ownership
[14:55] <arkanabar> Is there some way to run flashplugin-installer manually to use a local file?
[14:55] <Super-ru> So you could run su - or sudo
[14:55] <neta> Ah yea it did output lot of stuff all the file/dir it change the ownership to
[14:55] <Super-ru> Oh you ran it already?
[14:56] <neta> yea
[14:57] <neta> i think it worked as well will have to check in a sec when i am done compliing node
[14:57] <Super-ru> irgendwer 4711 are you running service stop cron or service cron stop
[14:58] <irgendwer4711> Super-ru: it said unrecognized service
[14:59] <neta> by what i've seen so far seems like ubunutu is more popular then other linuxes why is that ?
[14:59] <Super-ru> Gui is neat and it's stable
[14:59] <Super-ru> Plus it's debian based
[15:00] <cfhowlett> neta, great topic for the #ubuntu-offtopic channel - let's keep this channel for actual support please.
[15:00] <neta> Sorry cfhowltt, will do
[15:00] <cfhowlett> neta, thank you.
[15:02] <OerHeks> uh oh
[15:03] <Super-ru> irrgendwer4711, you have to have elevated priveleges so run sudo service cron stop
[15:03] <wcchandler> is there a way to hit the donate page without going to the download page first?
[15:04] <irgendwer4711> Super-ru: no, it says: unrecognized service
[15:05] <irgendwer4711> user movement are annoying
[15:05] <Super-ru> Are you sure it doesn't say "stop: unrecognized service"
[15:05] <OerHeks> server troubles, you can hide split/join messages in your client
[15:06] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, I've got almost a full page of user renames displayed at present ...
[15:06] <irgendwer4711> Super-ru: no command is succedfull
[15:06] <Super-ru> Are you running it as su?
[15:07] <irgendwer4711> Super-ru: /etc/init.d/cron doenst work too
[15:07] <irgendwer4711> I am root
[15:10] <Super-ru> irrgendwer4711 I don't know then sorry
[15:10] <irgendwer4711> maybe some reboot helps
[15:17] <wcchandler> is anybody else getting "access denied" when accessing http://www.ubuntu.com/process-donation?  or by clicking "Pay with Paypal" on this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions ?
[15:17] <Super-ru> How can you list all packages you installed besides default installed ones for your bundle (or whatever the iso is referred to as)
[15:19] <cfhowlett> Super-ru, dpkg -l   will list all packages
[15:21]  * OerHeks used to use "dpkg --get-selections > ~/InstalledPackages.list " 
[15:22] <neta> super-ru i think the owner chance didnt work
[15:22] <cfhowlett> Super-ru, ^^^ this is an excellent suggestion
[15:22] <cfhowlett> wcchandler, yes, access denied
[15:24] <neta> i tried chaning the owner for /var/www/foler by cd /var/www sudo chown -R www-data.www-data folder/ now when i try to write a file with ubuntu user it gives me Permission denied
[15:24] <OerHeks> wcchandler, same here
[15:25] <neta> I've also added ubuntu into www-data group and still no access
[15:25] <OerHeks> neta, www-data:www-data  (not www-data.www-data)
[15:25] <neta> ah
[15:27] <neta> Same Permission denied
[15:28] <OerHeks> neta i guess you need sudo, to change owner outside your /home/
[15:30] <neta> i used sudo yea i also did stat /folder and it shows that the suer www-data and group www-data is there
[15:31] <neta> maybe i did not add ubuntu user to that group correctly
[15:31] <neta> will try again and reboot
[15:31] <OerHeks> sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/folder
[15:34] <OerHeks> Thank you for flying Freenode
[15:34] <Super-ru> dpkg --get-selections is empty
[15:34] <Super-ru> Well I lie, it says install for everything, not deinstall
[15:35] <neta> oerHeks thanks  will try
[15:36] <Super-ru> neta are those two (user and group) tied to IDs in the stat output?
[15:36] <Super-ru> And what are the access permissions?
[15:39] <Super-ru> You might have to apply  chmod a+x /folder -v
[15:39] <asturel> hi, its not rly ubuntu related but is there some reverse tunnel software? (except ssh)
[15:42] <neta> its 755
[15:42] <neta> i just made sure, my suer is in www-data group and www-data group is the owner of the foler.
[15:42] <neta> permission for the folder is 755 but would that pervent me from vi a file there ?
[15:43] <Super-ru> No 755 is quite standard
[15:45] <neta> i did the following sanity checks: whoami - ubuntu,  groups - .... ... . www-data ..., stat /var/www/folder: Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x)  Uid: (   33/www-data)   Gid: (   33/www-data). am i missing anything ?
[15:46] <Super-ru> Does your acount you're starting VI with have permission too?
[15:46] <neta> i am starting vi with ubuntu (not with sudo )
[15:47] <neta> so i assume it should have permision
[15:48] <Super-ru> I assume your folder isn't actually a symlink
[15:49] <neta> dont know what symlink means give me a sec to read about it
[15:50] <Super-ru> when you stat'd the folder it would have file 'path' -> 'path2' if it were
[15:52]  * Gnea wasn't aware that 'ubuntu' was a commandline program
[15:54] <neta> it doesnt have the word path it has File: â/var/www/folderâ
[16:00] <max3> is there really no way to make dolphin the default file manager in ubuntu?
[16:00] <max3> 13.10
[16:00] <neta> so symlinks are like window's shortcuts
[16:00] <neta> sort of
[16:00] <penryn> neta, no
[16:01] <penryn> neta, symlinks work on the filesystem level, shortcuts are different
[16:02] <penryn> neta, look up ntfs junctions
[16:02] <penryn> and play with "mklink" on windows
[16:04] <max3> is there a way to make dolphin the default file manager?
[16:04] <yodam> Hey! Can I receive any help here?
[16:04] <neta> will do penryn,
[16:04] <|> !ask|yodam,
[16:04] <yodam> How do I fix the grub after installing ubuntu on a USB stick?
[16:05] <penryn> yodam, dont ask to ask, just ask
[16:05] <yodam> I have windows 8 already installed and I decided to install ubuntu on a USB stick and now i have to plug my usb stick in order to make it possible to boot into anything how do i fix this?
[16:06] <penryn> yodam, youll have to boot into linux a and install grub2 to the hard drives MBR?
[16:07] <penryn> or just to the flashdrives MBR, that way you could simply use bios/uefi hotkeys to boot from the flashdrive whenever you want
[16:08] <yodam> Ok how exactly do I do this? (I'm no computer geek)
[16:11] <penryn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/197598/how-to-install-grub2-under-several-common-scenarios
[16:11] <penryn> https://superuser.com/questions/397341/howto-install-and-configuring-grub2-on-a-usb-thumb-drive
[16:11] <penryn> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1225506
[16:11] <penryn> for starters
[16:11] <yodam> Thanks, I'll read these and come back to give you the outcome :)
[16:17] <cypher-neo> Frakking Freenode
[16:19] <neta> penryn there's a difference i see
[16:19] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[16:19] <yodam> penryn, I don't necessarily want to boot grub on the USB drive, I just wanna fix it on the actual computer
[16:20] <OerHeks> yodam, i thinkyou neet gdisk for gtp partitions and the UEFI manual
[16:20] <OerHeks> !uefi
[16:21] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[16:24] <yodam> Ok ill be back and try a few things, thanks for your help
[16:25] <neta> so there's no way to allow permission to hardlinks ? i mean i am able to visit the site in browser, unable to write to the folder however.
[16:29] <max3> is there a way to make dolphin the default file manager?
[16:31] <jefinc> max3 when you installed it did it not ask you to set as default?
[16:31] <max3> no
[16:38] <yodam> Hello! Im back! I fixed the problem! Thank you guys for your time and help :)
[16:45] <neta> is it customary to have the files in a protected folder like /var/www... and have a symilink to a public one ?
[16:48] <bekks> neta: /var/www is public.
[16:55] <neta> then i am doing something wrong. Any manual or a website i could read, on how to setup ubuntu correctly ?
[16:55] <bekks> neta: Insert the CD, follow the installation. Whats the actual issue you are experiencing?
[16:58] <neta> No, cd just ec2 server, i took and start learning on, just so i can setup nodejs and some other stuff
[16:59] <bekks> neta: And whats the actuall issue you are experiencing?
[16:59] <neta> ever configured or even use linux prior to that, so still learning. and i might be doing something wrong with how i set up my files
[17:00] <bekks> neta: So what is the actual issue you are experiencing?
[17:00] <neta> i am trying to give permission to /var/www/folder. -added changed the owner to www-data, added ubuntu user to that group and stil unable to write files there
[17:02] <bekks> neta: Thats what you are trying to do - but why? Whats the _actual_ issue? I am not going to ask again.
[17:03] <frackster> does anyone speak chinese here?
[17:03] <bekks> !cn | frackster
[17:03] <frackster> I need a few sentences translated
[17:03] <frackster> bekks: what?
[17:04] <bekks> frackster: Nevermind, the bot is not here. He would have directed you to the chinese ubuntu channel. But I am assuming your issue is offtopic to Ubuntu support?
[17:04] <frackster> oh
[17:04] <frackster> what's the chinese support channel bekks?
[17:04] <frackster> #ubuntu-cn?
[17:06] <neta> bekks, my goal eventually is to connect phpstorm or dreamweaver directly to the site's folder so i can make changes on the fly as if it were my privated(which it is) environment.
[17:06] <neta> that's that actual issue
[17:06] <bekks> neta: And how is that related changing permissions of /var/www ?
[17:07] <neta> the problem: files wont get save due to permission deniel
[17:07] <bekks> !details | neta
[17:07] <bekks> neta: What exactly are you trying to do how...?
[17:08] <basketballlll> hello
[17:08] <Munster> o/
[17:08] <basketballlll> anyone online
[17:08] <bekks> basketballlll: Type: "/names"
[17:08] <Munster> yup
[17:09] <basketballlll> how are we on if there is a ddos
[17:09] <Munster> not all servers are affected , looks like the US servers are being attacked
[17:10] <basketballlll> what servers are online
[17:10] <bekks> basketballlll: Thats not related to Ubuntu, but a good question for #freenode
[17:10] <Munster> the euro servers seem ok
[17:10] <neta> my site's folder resides in /var/www/foler. i am trying to configure phpstorm so when i save, it will automatically save(using sftp key pair) the changes that was made to the server.
[17:11] <bekks> neta: I never heard of "phpstorm".
[17:11] <neta> well its just an editor like dreamweaver that make a simple sftp connection with a certain user you select
[17:12] <basketballlll> Munster:  what port is adams.freenode.net
[17:12] <bekks> basketballlll: Thats a good question for #freenode
[17:12] <neta> ok lets ignore php storm i do, cd /var/www/folder, then vi file, then try to save the file and i get permission denied , same thing with nano
[17:12] <Munster> using 7000, basketballlll
[17:12] <bekks> neta: Thats because for security reasons your logged in user is not a member of the www-data group andn never should beb.
[17:13] <bekks> *be.
[17:13] <neta> even for the sake of editing?
[17:13] <Munster> basketballlll, but I'm on rajaniemi.freenode.net
[17:13] <bekks> neta: For the sake of security never ever do that.
[17:14] <neta> so how to edit files instead ?
[17:15] <bekks> neta: sudo vi file - or use mod_userdir and place them in ~/public_html/
[17:16] <neta> How about if i have the files set up in/var/www/folder, and make a symlinc from this to the folder that the user can access
[17:16] <neta> ah there we go that's something i've seen before public_html. .. will read about mod_userdir see what it does
[17:17] <bekks> A symlink will not change file permissions.
[17:17] <neta> i'll read about mode-userdir and see what it is thanks bekks
[17:29] <saiarcot895> erm...what exactly is happening?
[17:54] <neta> bekks so basically i create something like home/ubuntu/public_html/folder and create a rule for nginx to redirect there. however wont that be a different user/folder for ubuntu / www-data ?
[17:55] <tirah> could anyone help me with an issue I am having?
[17:56] <tirah> anyone help me with an issue I am having?
[17:56] <neta> what's the issue
[17:56] <tirah> how do I install custum kernels this is the first time using ubuntu
[17:57] <neta> no idea what kernels are maybe someone sle
[17:57] <bekks> neta: Basically you create /home/user/public_html/ and those contents will be presented as www.yourdomain.tld/~user/ when using Apache. I dont know wether nginx provides a facility similar to this.
[17:57] <bekks> tirah: Why do you want to use a a custom kernel?
[17:58] <tirah> I have a surface pro 2 and the keyboard will not work without using one
[17:58] <tirah> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183946&page=7
[17:58] <tirah> if you read the last post by pointsource
[17:58] <davido_> I think that going from "first time using Ubuntu" to "installing custom kernels" is like "first time  throwing a snowball" to "winning the ski jumping competition"
[17:59] <tirah> lol I know this but I will not have a keyboard without installing one
[17:59] <tirah> davido_: is it that hard
[18:00] <bekks> tirah: Using a kernel from someone you dont know is a very bad idea. It isnt an official kernel, you have no changelog, you have no information about what will happen when using that kernel. Dont use it. Dont.
[18:00] <davido_> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/kernel-baking.html
[18:01] <tirah> davido_: thank you
[18:01] <tirah> This is my first time using ubuntu not linux
[18:01] <tirah> :P
[18:01] <davido_> tirah: That was the 2nd result that came up when I hit Google.  Don't thank me, thank Google.
[18:01] <tirah> Thank you Google
[18:02] <bekks> tirah: Then you should know that is one of the worst ideas to use those kernels.
[18:02] <davido_> I agree.
[18:02] <tirah> why?
[18:02] <bekks> tirah: I just explained it to you.
[18:02] <davido_> It's one thing to install a custom kernel on a raspberry pi that cost $39.
[18:03] <bekks> tirah: I am resting that case for the sake of not telling people how to drive a safe way to let them have their computer being taken over by someone else.
[18:03] <tirah> ok
[18:03] <tirah> is there any way for my keyboard to work without installing a custum kernel?
[18:03] <davido_> But doing it on a machine you actually use... next week you'll be asking how to uninstall keyloggers that are sending your login credentials to hackers in the Ukrane.
[18:04] <bekks> tirah: No. Build your own kernel.
[18:05] <neta> lol davido
[18:05] <bekks> neta: That was no joke.
[18:05] <neta> Yea i understand though the way he put it is funny
[18:07] <ziikutv> hey
[18:07] <ziikutv> does anyone use autokey here?
[18:07] <bekks> ziikutv: What if someone does?
[18:08] <ziikutv> i need help setting it up, its retaded
[18:08] <bekks> ziikutv: How about asking a specific question then?
[18:09] <ziikutv> How do I set it such that when I press Key wth code 128.. it does the same thing as superW (show all windows)
[18:09] <davido_> Here's a specific question: I'm following the instructions here: http://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools#downloads
[18:09] <bekks> ziikutv: You cant set up such a thing. One key, one action. :)
[18:09] <davido_> But when I ./filename.sfx, bash complains that there is no such file or directory.
[18:10] <ziikutv> wtf
[18:10] <ziikutv> Okay
[18:10] <bekks> ziikutv: And if that key is already taken by something else, it is pointless trying to use it for something else.
[18:10] <ziikutv> Can I use it to swap super and control (so its like a mac)
[18:10] <bekks> davido_: Then "./filename.sfx" does not exist.
[18:10] <davido_> Even using ./<tab-completion>, still "No such file or directory"
[18:11] <davido_> Yes, bekks, that seems like the simple answer. :)
[18:11] <bekks> davido_: Then that file you are looking for does not exist.
[18:11] <zykotick9> davido_: FYI ./ means, in this directory...  just sayin'
[18:11] <davido_> I'm aware.
[18:12] <ziikutv> bekks: Do u know what Hid patches are?
[18:12] <bekks> ziikutv: Yes.
[18:12] <ziikutv> bekks: Can you help me with that then?
[18:12] <ziikutv> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard
[18:12] <zykotick9> ziikutv: HID is Human Interface Device
[18:12] <ziikutv> over here it says you can swap the cmd and super eys using the hid_apple patch
[18:12] <ziikutv> and this is the link
[18:12] <ziikutv> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10259/
[18:13] <davido_> ls -l shows the file.  Tab-completion completes the filename.  So how does the file not exist?
[18:13] <llutz> davido_: "file filename.sfx" "uname -m"
[18:13] <yeats> davido_: this may be relevant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/351827/unable-to-run-a-32-bit-program-on-64-bit-vm/353497#353497
[18:13] <bekks> ziikutv: Since thats a kernelpatch, you have to build your own kernel then.
[18:14] <ziikutv> okay
[18:14] <ziikutv> dont know who todo that
[18:14] <davido_> ah, the file exists, but it may be invoking something that doesn't?
[18:15] <Dalvikin> were can i find ubuntu version for my droid?
[18:15] <yeats> davido_: right
[18:15] <davido_> thanks.
[18:15] <yeats> !phone | davido_
[18:15] <yeats> davido_: sorry
[18:15] <Dalvikin> the thing boot to a black screen
[18:15] <yeats> !touch | Dalvikin
[18:15] <Dalvikin> i need to reflash
[18:15] <yeats> hmm
[18:16] <yeats> oh - no ubottu :-/
[18:16] <Dalvikin> sup?
[18:16] <terrasapien> how can I see which version of ubuntu I'm running?
[18:16] <yeats> Dalvikin: I was trying to invoke the channel bot's information about ubuntu touch/phone/mobile
[18:17] <llutz> terrasapien: lsb_release -sc
[18:17] <terrasapien> thanks llutz
[18:18] <terrasapien> why have there been no updates for weeks for "raring" ??
[18:18] <yeats> Dalvikin: /join #ubuntu-touch
[18:18] <Dalvikin> they are working on the phone version
[18:18] <s8n> Closing Link: 75-135-156-3.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com (Sorry, server is full - try later)
[18:18] <s8n> wow
[18:18] <glitsj16> terrasapien: because raring is end-of-life
[18:18] <s8n> never seen freenode get full
[18:19] <bekks> rimd2r___: Raring is 13.04 - which is EOL for weeks now.
[18:19] <terrasapien> glitsj16, that makes sense, thanks
[18:19] <terrasapien> less than a year and discontinued
[18:20] <terrasapien> and 13.10 won't install
[18:20] <bekks> terrasapien: Nine months.
[18:20] <terrasapien> time to find a new distro
[18:20] <genii> terrasapien: If you issue: ubuntu-support-status    ..it will tell you
[18:20] <bekks> terrasapien: And what does "wont install" mean, exactly?
[18:22] <parapan_> hi folks > I have a 1 TB HDD on a laptop .....partition 1 boot=primary / partition 2 = extended ( swap + ubuntu ) / partition 3 primary for storage / free space 300 GB - I want to create a logical partition on those 300 GB but the only option into GPARTED is PRIMARY - can you help pls ???
[18:22] <ziikutv> Whats the shortcut to hide all windos?
[18:23] <llutz> parapan_: you already have an extended partition, you cannot have 2. so the only possible partition type left is primary (the 4th)
[18:24] <llutz> parapan_: remove your 3rd partition, extend the extended to the end of the drive and re-create logical drives in it
[18:24] <bekks> Of course you can have up to 4 extended partitions on a MBR labeled disk.
[18:24] <bekks> And each extended partition may contain up to 16 logical partitions.
[18:25] <faugusztin_> bekks: uhm, no. Even wiki says so : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning#Extended_partition
[18:25] <llutz> bekks: nonsense
[18:25] <bekks> Then wiki is wrong.
[18:25] <faugusztin_> bekks: clearly not
[18:25] <parapan_> llutz: ok, but if I make the 4th partition primary , can I create a new logical partition inside it ?
[18:25] <bekks> llutz: Then explain how I was able to build 4 extended partitions using MBR i the past?
[18:26] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. I have one cron job set and want to create another - do I do this in the same cron file or do I create another one??
[18:26] <faugusztin_> bekks: because you ignored windows compatibility
[18:26] <parapan_> llutz: the reason below is: 1/2/3 partitions for work and on the 4th partitions I want to install 2-3 other testing OS's . . .
[18:27] <bekks> faugusztin_: Which doesnt mean "it isnt possible".
[18:27] <gmachine_24> Also, is there a live version of Ubuntu I can run off a usb stick and be able to update/save etc. changes? I assume if I install the OS to the flash drive it will boot and run normally - or am I wrong?
[18:28] <llutz> parapan_: no you can't. only extended partitions can hold logical drives
[18:29] <bekks> And LVM volume groups.
[18:29] <parapan_> llutz: so I can basically have 3 primary partitions and an extended one - correct ??
[18:30] <llutz> parapan_: that's what the MBR-definition allows, yes
[18:31]  * ratdog slaps FiremanEd around a bit with a large trout ...
[18:31] <parapan_> llutz: sp that's why the peoples invented virtual machines :d
[18:32] <dougl> is the cube thing only kde?
[18:32] <llutz> parapan_: and gpt
[18:33] <bekks> dougl: Which "cube thing"?
[18:33] <dougl> desktop cube bekks  sorry
[18:34] <ratdog> kde is now picked up funding from LinuxMint sine ubutu dropped kde funding
[18:34] <ratdog> :)
[18:35] <bekks> The desktop cube is a CCSM thing originally - they just ported it, it has nothing to do with funding.
[18:35] <genii> ratdog: Mostly Kubuntu is being supported now by Blue systems
[18:36] <ratdog> mint will go with wayland insted of mir
[18:36] <ratdog> :)
[18:36] <dougl> bekks - right ... I was wondering if I could change the end pics on the cube
[18:36] <glitsj16> dougl: the compiz cube effect isn't a kde-only thing no --> http://ubuntuguide.net/enable-desktop-cube-effect-ubuntu-13-10 if you want to try it
[18:36] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[18:36] <ratdog> genii mint blog also says mint is funding
[18:37] <OerHeks> ratdog, keep this channel free for support, join #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[18:37] <dougl> glitsj16, thanks for the info :)
[18:37] <bekks> ratdog: And Canonical dropped funding for Kubuntu back in 2012.
[18:37] <ratdog> yep
[18:37] <bekks> ratdog: So your comments are not even offtopic, but even outdated.
[18:38] <ratdog> and xorg's new wayland
[18:38] <ratdog> bad
[18:38] <bekks> ratdog: Can you please take the chit chat to some offtopic channel?
[18:38] <ratdog> intel dropped all support for mir
[18:38] <ratdog> ok
[18:39] <genii> ratdog: #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic are probably better channels for this discussion
[18:39] <ratdog> or a mint channel?
[18:39] <genii> Possibly.
[18:41] <parapan_> llutz: thanks chief ..I'll see what I can manage ....
[18:41] <mezen> ratdog,
[18:42] <mezen> FiremanEd,
[18:47] <Kuro-Maii> hello
[18:49] <Kuro-Maii> I have a question considering the package manager from ubuntu
[18:49] <gmachine_24> !question
[18:49] <gmachine_24> errr
[18:49] <gmachine_24> Kuro-Maii, just ask
[18:50] <Kuro-Maii> is it possible to replace it with a yum ( -like ) manager?
[18:50] <gmachine_24> is there a live version of Ubuntu I can run off a usb stick and be able to update/save etc. changes? I assume if I install the OS to the flash drive it will boot and run normally - or am I wrong?
[18:50] <gmachine_24> Kuro-Maii, what is it
[18:50] <gmachine_24> "it"
[18:51] <Kuro-Maii> yum is the package manager from fedora
[18:51] <neta> bekks, will simply putting the files insite /home/user/public_html be a risk ?
[18:51] <zykotick9> gmachine_24: yes, you can do a regular install to a USB.
[18:51] <llutz> Kuro-Maii: you can't, yum is for rpm-based distros
[18:51] <zykotick9> llutz: i'm wondering what they mean by yum-like?
[18:52] <Kuro-Maii> and I find it to be a lot more readable than the output from apt-get or aptitude
[18:52] <gmachine_24> zykotick9: thanks.
[18:52] <bekks> neta: Depends on your configuration.
[18:52] <llutz> zykotick9: idk, same syntax/options maybe
[18:52] <gmachine_24> Kuro-Maii - I believe yum is meant for rpm packages only
[18:52] <gmachine_24> But I could be wrong
[18:53] <bekks> Kuro-Maii: There is no yum for non-rpm based linux distributions.
[18:53] <Kuro-Maii> llutz, gmachine_24, I know that is why I added the ( -like ) part
[18:53] <gmachine_24> Kuro-Maii, have you tried synaptic?
[18:53] <gmachine_24> Kuro-Maii: It is a gui
[18:53] <llutz> Kuro-Maii: and what does "-like" mean for you? use apt-get/aptitude if you want a cli-tool
[18:53] <bekks> gmachine_24: synaptic is totally different from yum :)
[18:54] <gmachine_24> bekks, yes, I know. But he complained about the output so I thought synaptic might be easier for him/her.
[18:54] <gmachine_24> and it's different than, not different from. :-)
[18:54] <neta> bekks mind giving another clue to what i should look for?
[18:55] <bekks> neta: I dont know what you are looking for.
[18:55] <shadej> hello guys
[18:55] <Kuro-Maii> what I mean with "-like" is that the cli output of yum can be done with a different package manager
[18:55] <bekks> neta: You are still not precise enough in asking your questions for anyone being able to give you an useful answer.
[18:55] <gmachine_24> shadej, just please ask your question
[18:56] <shadej> is it possible to coerce ubuntu to accept short passwords?
[18:56] <Kuro-Maii> and I prefer a cli over a gui
[18:56] <neta> yea that's true still not enough knowladge to pinpoint my question sorry about that
[18:56] <shadej> gmachine_24: greetings first
[18:56] <neta> well for now i guess i will have my site at /home/user/public_html and hope for the best
[18:57] <bekks> neta: Why not editing the files on the server but using stuff like phpstorm?
[18:57] <neta> i only have remote access to the server and using vi or nano to edit files is hell
[18:58] <gmachine_24> I have one cron job set and want to create another - do I do this in the same cron file or do I create another one??
[18:58] <bs0d> Hello everyone.  I have added 2 hard drives to a vm, but mdadm tells me it cannot use them because device or resource is busy. Reboot didn't help.
[18:58] <calju16> hey all, hows it going?
[18:58] <llutz> gmachine_24: users crontab? just add it to the same file
[18:58] <bekks> bs0d: How did you add them to which vm (which hypervisor)?
[18:59] <sakter12> how do i do syntax highlighting with pastebinit?
[18:59] <calju16> does anyone here have any experience with home switches?
[18:59] <neta> bekk sorry misclicked
[19:00] <sakter12> "pastebinit someCfile.c -f C" ? or something else?
[19:00] <yeats> neta: probably worth learning vi anyway, but you can also set up nautilus to access the server and copy files over from your desktop that way
[19:00] <Kuro-Maii> so to restate my question: does any one know of a way to get yum-like output with deb based systems?
[19:00] <gmachine_24> llutz: yes, user crontab. I thought I should just add another line (job) to the file but I wasn't sure......
[19:00] <gmachine_24> Kuro-Maii, I'm not that familiar with yum-like output.
[19:01] <neta> yeats will nautilus copy into /var/www/... folder ?
[19:01] <bs0d> bekks I use vmware workstation. I created 2 SCSI hard drives and ubuntu sees them as /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[19:02] <bekks> bs0d: So both host and guest OS are Ubuntu?
[19:02] <llutz> gmachine_24: just "crontab -e", add your jobs, line by line, done
[19:02] <gmachine_24> llutz: got it, thanks. :-0
[19:02] <bs0d> bekks host is WIndows 8, guest is Ubuntu LTS 12.04
[19:02] <yeats> neta: sure - just click "Connect to Server" in nautilus and enter ssh://user@host and you're there
[19:03] <bekks> bs0d: And whats the actual issue when doing what exactly in your VM?
[19:03] <Kuro-Maii> gmachine_24, it is formatted to be human readable instead of a barf of what it is going to install
[19:03] <shadej> how to allow ubuntu to accept shorter passwords?
[19:03] <bs0d> bekks let me pastebin the output
[19:03] <neta> checking
[19:03] <Kuro-Maii> gmachine_24, and it tells you from where a package will come
[19:04] <bekks> neta: use sudo cp  -- do not use nautilus.
[19:04] <Kuro-Maii> but that is MHO
[19:04] <gmachine_24> Kuro-Maii: well, it seems the answer is no.
[19:04] <bs0d> bekks http://www.everfall.com/paste/id.php?h0wduqc9wczx
[19:05] <bekks> bs0d: Then check whats using sdb and sdc in your vm.
[19:05] <Kuro-Maii> gmachine_24, it seems so :(
[19:06] <llutz> shadej: read "man pam_unix" but it's not a good idea to allow it
[19:06] <bs0d> bekks is there any command for this check?
[19:06] <bs0d> bekks they are empty drives (no FS on them), they are not supposed to be used at all
[19:07] <bekks> bs0d: fuser, lsof, mount - and zillion of other possibilities to use a drive.
[19:07] <sakter12> anyone know how to get syntax highlighting working with pastebinit?
[19:07] <zykotick9> sakter12: are you aware of a paste site that supports syntax highlighting?  i've never seen it...
[19:08] <Kuro-Maii> I do find it weird that everyone finds the way apt and aptitude present the output acceptable/readable.....
[19:08] <Kuro-Maii> or at least it seems so
[19:08] <bekks> zykotick9: sakter12: gist.github.com
[19:08]  * zykotick9 has no issues with apt-get or aptitudes output...
[19:08] <zykotick9> bekks: github.com figures... thanks BTW.
[19:08] <sakter12> zykotick9, seriously? pastebin.com?! you just select the language, but i want to know hwo with pastebinit and cli
[19:09] <neta> yeats its a linux app, i am using windows, i will look for something alternative
[19:09] <bekks> sakter12: Look at the -f option of pastebinit.
[19:10] <sakter12> bekks, right, and "pastebinit some.c -f C" doesn't work is it like "-f:C"?
[19:10] <llutz> Kuro-Maii: can you pastebin some examples from yum/aptitude to compare and comment what annoys you whith it?
[19:10] <bekks> sakter12: -fC
[19:11] <Kuro-Maii> !pastbin
[19:11] <Kuro-Maii> !pastebin
[19:11] <sakter12> bekks, -fC doesn't work   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6977823/
[19:12] <bekks> sakter12: Try   -f C
[19:13] <justit> hi all, have some problem: vpn (with openvpn) is normally working with network manager, but these exported config started from console is not. syslog says: <warn> /sys/devices/virtual/net/tun0: couldn't determine device driver; ignoring... The askubuntu issue is to backup libgcrypt11 to older version (http://goo.gl/cVYhp6). I've made sudo dpkg -P --force-all libgcrypt11, then make install offered version from sources. Then dependencies are not seeing these
[19:13] <justit> lib and asking for it, vpn problem is still not solved. What am I doing wrong?
[19:13] <sakter12> bekks, i've tried that too. and my C file is indeed recognizably a C file right? this is so odd.  going to try with python
[19:13] <bekks> sakter12: Did you try using another pastebin service?
[19:14] <sakter12> bekks, oh like paste.ubuntu may not support syntax highlighting?
[19:15] <sakter12> no i have not
[19:16] <sakter12> so by default "pastebinit somefile.c" uses paste.ubuntu by default, how do i use there other ones?  i can see a bunch with "pastebinit -l"
[19:17] <llutz> sakter12: -b <pastebin url
[19:17] <bekks> sakter12: -b
[19:17] <bs0d> bekks I managed to create a raid array. It released the drives on its own .. just one moment command mdadm succeeded
[19:18] <neta> anyone knows of a package or something that will push everything i have from one folder to another ?
[19:18] <bs0d> bekks thank you for help. Do you accidently know if I need to partition the raid array /dev/md0 or the underlying drives?
[19:18] <Kuro-Maii> llutz, this it yum: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6977867/
[19:18] <sakter12> in what format? "pastebinit p-ls.py -b slexy.org -python"
[19:19] <Kuro-Maii> llutz, this is apt-get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6977847/
[19:19] <bs0d> neta   mv one_folder another_folder
[19:19] <bekks> bs0d: Yes I do know that - no you dont have to.
[19:19] <daftykins> Kuro-Maii: read the man page.
[19:19] <neta> bs0d yea thanks
[19:19] <daftykins> Kuro-Maii: oops sorry wrong nick
[19:19] <daftykins> sakter12: read the man page
[19:19] <Kuro-Maii> llutz, I find it self explanatory
[19:20] <Kuro-Maii> daftykins, is okay
[19:20] <llutz> Kuro-Maii: i see what you mean.. :D
[19:20] <neta> bekks, thanks very much for you help.
[19:20] <bs0d> bekks I am slighly confused what to partition now .. underlying disks?
[19:20] <Kuro-Maii> llutz, Thanks ^.^
[19:20] <sakter12> daftykins, yknow the man page hasn't been too helpful
[19:20] <bekks> bs0d: /dev/md0 if you like to. You dont need to partition your RAID.
[19:20] <bekks> bs0d: Most likely, you want to use /dev/md0 as physical volume for a LVM volume group.
[19:21] <Kuro-Maii> llutz, and that is why I would like that output style
[19:21] <bs0d> bekks is it possible to partition it (not using LVM), create filesystems there and mount them?
[19:21] <max3> is there a way to make dolphin the default file manager in gnome?
[19:22] <bs0d> bekks I tried cfdisk /dev/md0 but I get error that cfdisk could not open /dev/md0 drive.  But I can cfdisk /dev/sdb for instance
[19:22] <llutz> Kuro-Maii: file a feature request to the apt/aptitude authors, maybe they have time and see some advantages in this
[19:23] <llutz> also see*
[19:23] <bekks> bs0d: You have to partition the underlying devices, build several mdX, and use mkfs on the mdX.
[19:23] <Kuro-Maii> llutz, good call.... how would one do that...
[19:23] <sakter12> "pastebinit -b cxg.de p-ls.py " also doesn't work.
[19:24] <llutz> Kuro-Maii: apt: maintainer:   APT Development Team <deity@lists.debian.org>
[19:24] <llutz> Kuro-Maii: aptitude:   Aptitude Development Team <aptitude-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
[19:25] <bs0d> bekks Oh I see .. in this case this would be the partition-based RAID .. I have read about it in man page
[19:25] <bekks> bs0d: Yes.
[19:25] <sakter12> "read the man page" lol
[19:26] <llutz> Kuro-Maii: subscribe the list, ask away https://lists.debian.org/deity/   http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aptitude-devel
[19:27] <Kuro-Maii> llutz, thanks I will subscribe to those
[19:27] <llutz> Kuro-Maii: good luck
[19:27] <neta> is it possible to create a little file that would perform certain tasks ? if so what file type it has to be and how do you execute it afterward through ssh
[19:27] <OerHeks> sakter12, i found some examples on this page > http://mewbies.com/pastebinit_how_to_pastebin_commnad_line_output_from_terminal_to_pastebin.htm  >> cat my.pl | pastebinit -f perl -a test -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:27] <Kuro-Maii> llutz, I hope it will be of use
[19:28] <Kuro-Maii> llutz, thanks ^.^
[19:29] <bekks> neta: Those files are called "scripts", and you have to write them.
[19:29] <sakter12> OerHeks, thank you.
[19:29] <neta> i assume they are written in bash ?
[19:30] <bekks> neta: They are written for the shell you want them to use.
[19:30] <neta> alrighty
[19:32] <parapan> llutz: sorry to bother you again ...I deleted partition 4 - now it's free space .....but inside the logical partition, I cannot create a new partition . . ..
[19:32] <zykotick9> parapan: it's extended partition you want to make as the 4th, then inside that create as many logical as you want...
[19:32] <sakter12> "pastebinit -i pythonProg.py -b http://pastebin.com -f python"  Ok so for anyone interested this works and from the commandline you can get syntax highlighted pastebinning.
[19:33] <sakter12> might as well alias pastebinit to "pastebinit -i"
[19:33] <ldorigo> Hi everyone, does somebody have experience with optimus graphics?
[19:34] <daftykins> !optimus
[19:34] <parapan> zykotick9: so the logical must be the last primary partition ?
[19:34] <parapan> zykotick9: the 4th one ?
[19:34] <ldorigo> My computer is stuck in 600x480 I tried everyting :'(
[19:35] <zykotick9> parapan: i'm assuming you have 3 primary partitions currently (you can only have 4 paritions on MSDOS partition tables) - the work around is using an extended partition, which can hold many logical partitions...
[19:36] <ldorigo> And I installed bumblebee with no effect :(
[19:36] <sakter12> OerHeks, thanks again
[19:37] <ldorigo> noone can help? :(
[19:37] <zykotick9> parapan: fyi, gpt partition takes don't have this limitation, and you can have as many primary partitions as you want...
[19:37] <zykotick9> s/takes/tables/
[19:37] <parapan> zykotick9: what i have now is : 1-primary = boot / 2 = logical ubntu swap and / / 3 - primary partition for storage / 4 free space . . . . .
[19:37] <parapan> zykotick9: for gpt I have to format the complete drive I guess .. it's not an option now
[19:38] <zykotick9> parapan: how can 2 be a logical?  that would bean you're already using your only available extended (you can only have 1 extended!)
[19:38] <parapan> zykotick9: even with this setup cannot create another partition on the logical partition 2 - why is that ?
[19:38] <zykotick9> s/bean/mean/
[19:39] <zykotick9> parapan: because it's size is already maxed out!
[19:39] <OerHeks> sakter12, have fun
[19:39] <sakter12> OerHeks, the "... -b http://" is not required at the end of that command you posted
[19:39] <sakter12> OerHeks, for me at least, it works with out that.
[19:39] <ldorigo> Please can someone help? I installed nvidia drivers and bumblebee and my computer is stuck in 600x480 resolution :/
[19:39] <parapan> zykotick9: but i cannot shrink-it ... i can't do anything on it . . .
[19:41] <zykotick9> parapan: i'm not surprised TBO...  i don't know how you fix this - it's kinda a "mess"...  you can only have 1 extended partition - and you have that on the wrong one right now (2 only)...
[19:42] <ldorigo> Please can someone help? I installed nvidia drivers and bumblebee and my computer is stuck in 600x480 resolution :/ I have opimus technology with a GT740M and an intel chipset...
[19:42] <zykotick9> parapan: i'd guess you could create another primary (with the current layout/free space) but i don't think that will help you... cause it's only 1 partition :(
[19:43] <parapan> zykotick9: so basically I have to delete partition 3 .......resize the extended one to the HDD max , and it will let me resize or create another partitions inside ...correct ???? or I should have 1-primary / 2 primary / 3 primary 4th - extended till the end of the drive ....
[19:43] <zykotick9> parapan: regarding gpt, i wouldn't recommend attempting to switch your current!  too complicated, dangerous!
[19:44] <parapan> zykotick9: gpt it'a not an option now
[19:44] <zykotick9> right
[19:44] <parapan> grrrrr
[19:45] <ldorigo> Please can someone help? I installed nvidia drivers and bumblebee and my computer is stuck in 600x480 resolution :/ I have optimus technology with a GT740M and an intel chipset...
[19:45] <zykotick9> parapan: so, ideally you would have 3 primary and 1 extended.  inside the extended you can create as many paritions as you want - SO, it should probably take up the most space on the drive/partition-layout.
[19:47] <llutz> for linux-systems it's imo easier just to have one extended partition over the full drive, holding the logicals one needs (or to use lvm)
[19:47] <bekks> s/as many/up to 15/
[19:47] <zykotick9> llutz: i'd agree!  BUT that's assuming linux-systems - AND a fresh install!  but i agree 100% -- gpt is better even ;)
[19:48] <parapan> zykotick9: but the position is anyway wrong . . . ..do you think I can try .....to have 1 primary / 2 logical to complete HDD, then shrink the logical to put free space between part 1 and logical ...then create a primary on that space ???
[19:49] <zykotick9> parapan: i'm very sorry - but i can't help you further (i wouldn't touch it with a 30 foot pole at this point!).  i'm sorry, BEST of luck.  i hope you at least got some understanding from what i've said -- 'cause i can't help futher...
[19:51] <parapan> zykotick9: no problem, thanks alot bro' I'll manage some way
[19:51]  * zykotick9 doesn't trust parition resizing/moving at all... (i'll sooner slash-n-burn restart, then try moving partitions around)  if at all possible be sure you have backups!
[19:53] <max> fala chacal
[19:54] <Guest16965> xxxxx
[19:54] <Guest16965> xxxxxxx
[19:54] <Guest16965> xxxxxxxx
[19:54] <Guest16965> x
[19:54] <daftykins> stop that.
[19:55] <Anupkumar> Hi, I got a Hp pavilion g6 2320 tx lap with a ATI radeon 7670m HD graphic card
[19:56] <Anupkumar>  can anyone please suggest me one particular linux distro for my laptop?
[19:56] <cuddylier> Anyone know why no matter what PC I try my ubuntu USB it just goes to a black cursor, I haven't even been able to install it yet, no splash screen, nothing.
[19:56] <bekks> Anupkumar: Whyich anser do you expect in an _Ubuntu_-channel? :)
[19:56] <bekks> *which
[19:56] <cuddylier> I've checked all the threads available on the ubuntu forums, all need access to the splash screen
[19:56] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | cuddylier
[19:57] <cuddylier> zykotick9 I can't even get to the splash screen to change that setting.
[19:57] <Anupkumar> bekks: I know that the answer will be Ubuntu but which version in specific
[19:57] <cuddylier> Am I able to change it by editing the files on my USB?
[19:57] <bekks> cuddylier: you dont go to the splash screen to change that option.
[19:57] <bekks> cuddylier: Please read the article linked.
[19:57] <cuddylier> bekks: I can't even get to the grubb screen
[19:57] <cuddylier> I can't get to anything whatsoever to edit it/add it
[19:57] <bekks> cuddylier: How did you try to get to the grub screen?
[19:57] <cuddylier> bekks: Pressing shift
[19:57]  * zykotick9 notes the installer doesn't use grub
[19:58] <bekks> cuddylier: you can use the server installation medium to install in text mode.
[19:58] <cuddylier> Any other suggestions? The article doesn't mention how to get to the option if you can't get to the kernal options page.
[19:58] <cuddylier> bekks: Can you explain that a little more please or link me to something to read about it?
[19:59] <Anupkumar> bekks: any suggestions for me?
[19:59] <bekks> Anupkumar: Ubuntu.
[19:59] <cuddylier> I can't get to this page even: http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png
[19:59] <Anupkumar> bekks: which version
[19:59] <bekks> Anupkumar: 12.04
[19:59] <Anupkumar> bekks: but wifi drivers are not available for 12.04 for my laptop
[20:00] <bekks> cuddylier: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/precise/daily/current/precise-alternate-amd64.iso
[20:00] <bekks> Anupkumar: Then use 13.10
[20:00] <cuddylier> bekks: Just try this instead on my USB yeah?
[20:00] <zykotick9> Anupkumar: do you need wifi _during_ install?
[20:00] <bekks> cuddylier: yes.
[20:01] <cuddylier> Okay, I'll give it a go thanks
[20:01] <Anupkumar> bekks: in 13.10 I got the issue for my graphic driver
[20:01] <bananapie> Hello, my HP DC7700 just turned off the computer screen.
[20:01] <Anupkumar> zykotick9: no, but after wards
[20:01] <bananapie> is there anyway to turn it back on without touching the keyboard? I want to use the machine as a media centre
[20:01] <bekks> Anupkumar: Then use 12.04 and update whatever is needed after installing.
[20:02] <zykotick9> Anupkumar: if afterwards, you can just install backported kernel update, and hopefully that would solve this issue (if it's just kernel version related)
[20:02] <Anupkumar> zykotick9: do u mean that I am supposed to install the drivers separately after wards?
[20:02] <zykotick9> Anupkumar: s/drivers/kernel/ then yes ;)
[20:03] <Anupkumar> zykotick9: so it is better to install 12.04?
[20:03] <bekks> Anupkumar: If you have to ask that question, the answer is "yes".
[20:03] <lvleph> every time I return from suspend I have to run xmodmap .Xmodmap to key my keyboard mapping back. It is pretty annoying. Also, .xprofile doesn't seem to get called when logging in.
[20:03] <zykotick9> Anupkumar: if that's what you want!  it's LTS, which means by default it comes with an old kernel.  but by using backports you can update the kernel (which includes 99% of all drivers).
[20:04] <kostkon> zykotick9, 12.04.4 has the same kernel as 13.10
[20:04] <Anupkumar> zykotick9: one more thing I want to clarify.....I am unable to install the ATI radeon 7670m HD graphic driver in 13.10, Can I know the reason y?
[20:04] <Anupkumar> zykotick9: in that case how can I install it?
[20:04] <bekks> kostkon: No. But the lts enablement stack ships the same kernel.
[20:05] <zykotick9> kostkon: i dunno, does it?  i'm guessing you updates and or backports will have something recent (but it's a "bit" of an assumption ;)
[20:06] <cuddylier> bekks: Same issue, black flashing cursor straight away :(
[20:06] <zykotick9> Anupkumar: sorry ATI is another "no-no" issue for me.  i don't know a thing about ati/amd graphics cards... so i can't help.
[20:06] <bekks> cuddylier: when doing what exactly?
[20:06] <cuddylier> When selecting my USB as the boot device
[20:06] <cuddylier> On any of my PCs
[20:06] <cuddylier> Shows the white flashing cursor in top left of screen
[20:06] <cuddylier> Straight away
[20:06] <bekks> cuddylier: With which Ubuntu version to be installed?
[20:06] <cuddylier> Nothing else
[20:06] <cuddylier> I've tried 10.10, 12.10 and 13.10
[20:06] <bekks> cuddylier: Dont press enter that often.
[20:06] <whoever> hi all need some help to return from paintComponent(Graphics g). I am tring to return the painted g as bufferedimage and it is comming back as null or 0 height 0 width,
[20:06] <cuddylier> And then your iso
[20:07] <bekks> cuddylier: Use 12.04
[20:07] <43UAAKL97> ?
[20:07] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[20:07] <Anupkumar> bekks: do u have any idea about ati radeon graphic cards?
[20:07] <bekks> cuddylier: From the medium I gave you the link for.
[20:07] <lvleph> every time I return from suspend I have to run xmodmap .Xmodmap to get my keyboard mapping back. It is pretty annoying. Also, .xprofile doesn't seem to get called when logging in.
[20:07] <cuddylier> bekks: I already tried the iso you gave me
[20:07] <whoever> is there a more efficint way to do this, that have to run a second thread to chech state of the bufferedImage
[20:07] <bekks> cuddylier: you didnt. you just said.
[20:07] <cuddylier> bekks: And I tried 12.04 previously directly from the ubuntu website
[20:07] <bekks> Anupkumar: Not even heavy weapon fire will make me use ATI/AMD. :)
[20:07] <cuddylier> I've tried, 10.10, 12.04, 12.10, 13.10 and yours
[20:08] <cuddylier> All exactly the same issue
[20:08] <cuddylier> And I've tried different USB boot creator software
[20:08] <bekks> cuddylier: Thats why I gave you a link to the alternate installer which you did not try.
[20:08] <whoever> \the only thing that I can think of is th6at i am calling for buffered image befor it has anything to return
[20:08] <cuddylier> bekks: I installed that ISO you gave me on my USB stick
[20:08] <zykotick9> cuddylier: assuming your boot selection (at bios for the usb) IS correct.  and you're still getting a flashing cursuor -- i have one machine that can't boot modern debian or ubuntu install media (cdrom or usb!) BUT using unetbootin to create the USB works!!!  (note - i don't like unetbootin AT ALL for all other things - but for this one machine i have, IT WORKS)
[20:09] <bekks> cuddylier: you downloaded it, copied it to your USB, and tried to install it - within 6 minutes? I strongly doubt that.
[20:09] <cuddylier> bekks: I have 126Mb/s download speed
[20:09] <Anupkumar> bekks: what do u mean by that?
[20:09] <cuddylier> Download took me 2-3 mins then install took another 2-3 mins
[20:09] <bekks> Anupkumar: "No, I will never use AMD/ATI". :)
[20:09] <Anupkumar> bekks: got it
[20:10] <lvleph> every time I return from suspend I have to run xmodmap .Xmodmap to get my keyboard mapping back. It is pretty annoying. Also, .xprofile doesn't seem to get called when logging in.
[20:10] <Anupkumar> bekks: can you suggest me any one who is good at ATI/AMD
[20:10] <CHAKAL82> CHMOD+0
[20:10] <bekks> Anupkumar: No. Just ask a specific question, and not some "does anybody..." - and chances are good that someone will answer.
[20:10] <CHAKAL82> EAI GENTE LOKA
[20:10] <cuddylier> bekks: That's how I downloaded it so quickly: <bekks> Anupkumar: "No, I will never use AMD/ATI". :)
[20:10] <cuddylier> <Anu
[20:11] <cuddylier> bekks: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3325003822
[20:11] <CHAKAL82> I AM FROM BRAZIL ,CRAZY
[20:11] <bekks> CHAKAL82: And you keyboard is heavy broken.
[20:11] <CHAKAL82> NMAP -A
[20:11] <Anupkumar> cuddylier: that is amazing!!!!!
[20:11] <cuddylier> zykotick9 I've tried using  unetbootin but it doesn't show my USB up for some reason even when I've tried formatting it to fat32, any ideas?
[20:12]  * Anupkumar hope I had the same internet speeds here also
[20:12] <zykotick9> cuddylier: it has to be mounted as well
[20:13] <zykotick9> cuddylier: i really do hate unetbootin so i don't actually know it very well, it's causes a lot more problems tehn it solves IMO...
[20:14] <CHAKAL82> HOW DO YOU DO ?
[20:14] <lvleph> cuddylier, now I know that if I move to Glasgow the internet is good.
[20:14] <bekks> CHAKAL82: We can read lowercase too.
[20:14] <CHAKAL82> SKY IN THE RAIN
[20:14] <lvleph> Spains internet speeds suck!
[20:14] <cuddylier> lvleph: I live in Northern Ireland but my speed test uses the glasgow server
[20:14] <bekks> CHAKAL82: Ignore set.
[20:14] <CHAKAL82> LAZY SO
[20:15] <lvleph> every time I return from suspend I have to run xmodmap .Xmodmap to get my keyboard mapping back. It is pretty annoying. Also, .xprofile doesn't seem to get called when logging in.
[20:15] <DJones> CHAKAL82: This is a support channel, do you have any support questions?
[20:15] <cuddylier> zykotick9: This is what I've got so far: http://puu.sh/76rAX.png except the dropdown for 'drive' shows nothing at all, my USB shows in 'computer'.
[20:15] <Anupkumar> zykotick9: can you give me the sources list of the backports?
[20:15] <nutzz> hey guys, i was trying to make a reverse polish calculator in c with command line arguments and I had some problem with * operation. After I debugged the probgram i relized that the operator * should be passed as \* and a call like this calc 3 3 * is equal to calc 3 3 <all files in the current folder>. Is this a bug or this is the normal behaviour of the *?
[20:15] <bekks> !backports | Anupkumar
[20:16] <bekks> Anupkumar: you are better of using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack when running 12.04
[20:16] <xauth> nutzz: it's normal. your shell expands it before passing it to your calculator.
[20:16] <nutzz> thanks
[20:17] <LazyLucretia> i don't know if i'm in the right place but i have a problem about nvidia drivers
[20:17] <xauth> nutzz: you could try using x instead.
[20:17] <zykotick9> cuddylier: try "sudo mount /dev/sdX# /mnt" then restart unetbootin.  you need to replace X# with the real one, sdb1 type thing
[20:17] <LazyLucretia> i tried many different methods but none of them worked
[20:17] <cuddylier> zykotick9 I opened UNetbootin on windows so can't use ubuntu commands
[20:17] <bekks> LazyLucretia: So do you run Ubuntu?
[20:17] <nutzz> xauth: this is a good idea, thanks
[20:17] <cuddylier> zykotick9 I can browse the files on it and it has a single fat32 partion
[20:18] <LazyLucretia> yes
[20:18] <zykotick9> cuddylier: pufff.  if you're on windows i've got NO clue.  good luck...
[20:18] <pityuka44> Hi, How can i hide my ip in the chat application?
[20:18] <cuddylier> :(
[20:18] <xauth> nutzz: or even better, accept both.
[20:18] <bekks> LazyLucretia: And which version of Ubuntu? And which nvidia graphics hardware do you have?
[20:18] <cuddylier> zykotick9 Any other suggestions for boot programs?
[20:18] <zykotick9> Anupkumar: re:sources.list no i can't...  check the backports webpage or something...  good luck.
[20:18] <LazyLucretia> 13.10 gt740
[20:18] <cuddylier> Or what I could be doing wrong
[20:19] <LazyLucretia> the problem is i have two graphic cards
[20:19] <bekks> LazyLucretia: gt740 or gt740m?
[20:19] <LazyLucretia> intel hd 4000 and gt 740 m
[20:19] <LazyLucretia> i tried the bumblebee method
[20:20] <LazyLucretia> but when i tried optirun it gave me an error
[20:20] <LazyLucretia> [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA GPU at PCI:1:0:0.
[20:21] <bekks> LazyLucretia: So you have an Nvidia Optimus chipset.
[20:21] <LazyLucretia> i tried to edit xorg.config.nvidia
[20:21] <bekks> LazyLucretia: you have to use nvidia-prime then.
[20:21] <cuddylier> Anyone any other ideas on how I can install Ubuntu on a USB stick without a black cursor showing?
[20:21] <LazyLucretia> but nothing worked
[20:21] <LazyLucretia> okay
[20:22] <LazyLucretia> how can i use nvidia-prime?
[20:23] <bekks> LazyLucretia: Uninstall every other nvidia driver you might have installed, and install nvidia-prime
[20:23] <bekks> LazyLucretia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[20:23] <bshuta> cuddylier go to ubuntu.com
[20:23] <bshuta> they will show you how to do it
[20:23] <bshuta> thats how i got my ubuntu
[20:23] <cuddylier> bshuta: I've read every article under the sun
[20:24] <cuddylier> Resulting in the same issue of a black flashing cursor and not even any menu to change the boot settings for Ubuntu.
[20:24] <LazyLucretia> ok i will try this
[20:24] <LazyLucretia> thanks a lot!
[20:24] <bshuta> cuddylier whats your current os?
[20:25] <bshuta> cuddylier go to this link
[20:25] <cuddylier> bshuta: I am install Ubuntu on a USB/External Hard Drive, the main computer's OS is installed on its own Hard Drive which is windows
[20:25] <cuddylier> I am installing*
[20:25] <bshuta> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[20:26] <neta> rsync is what i am looking its seems !
[20:26] <bshuta> go to that link and under windows click on the create a bootable usb drive
[20:27] <neta> i would have my content in /var/www/whatever. and have my phpstorm update stuff in /home/user/public_html/whatever. and then i will use rsync to sync from public_html to www
[20:27] <neta> bekk does that sound like a good idea ?
[20:27] <OerHeks> neta i use rsync and grsync as a gui
[20:27] <neta> can u use anything gui in putty ?
[20:28] <neta> i mean i am on windows working though putty i dont know what is/isnt possible as i am new to this whole thing
[20:30] <jamesd> neta you can use  X tunelling to Xming on the windows side...  most X apps work fine.
[20:32] <bshuta_> cuddylier did that help at all?
[20:33] <bshuta_> no i didnt quit
[20:33] <77CABK8K3> Hello
[20:34] <genii> neta: Need to make sure that: X11Forwarding yes   ..is set in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file on server. then have an X server on Windows like Xming. Then connect with the -X switch. After that you can run an X app from commandline on putty and the window will open on your Windows machine
[20:35] <bekks> neta: sudo rsync in your case. ;) And you will have to fix permissions afterwards.
[20:36] <bekks> genii: And he needs an X server on his Windows.
[20:36] <genii> bekks: Yes, thats what Xming is
[20:37] <neta> genii and jamesd thanks
[20:42] <neta> Is there any way to 'watch' a folder for changes ? like if a change happened, run a script..
[20:43] <bekks> neta: Thats what's "inotify" is for.
[20:43] <genii> neta: Is the machine you're connecting to a server without hardware like keyboard and mouse? If so, then you need to install xvfb
[20:44] <neta> will read about inotify and xvfb
[20:45] <neta> well no keyboard or mouse that i'm aware of its a ec2 amazon large instanse
[20:46] <Chizbang> I just installed ubuntu
[20:46] <Chizbang> with
[20:46] <ggreer> sudo apt-get install inotify-tools
[20:46] <Chizbang> "Install alongside Windows"
[20:46] <Chizbang> and realised
[20:46] <Chizbang> i didn't wanna do that
[20:46] <Chizbang> and it didn't say it was installing
[20:46] <Chizbang> so I pressed quit
[20:46] <Chizbang> and then an error came up and then I couldn't find my windows partition
[20:46] <genii> neta: Yes, then you need xvfb so that it can install a minimal X server and pretend to have hardware for it to work
[20:46] <Chizbang> is all my stuff gone now?
[20:46] <ggreer> neta: after installing inotify-tools, you can man inotifywait and inotifywatch
[20:47] <Chizbang> checked in gparted and theres  a 12GB SWAP partition and one big 1888GB partition which used to be 2 separate partitions
[20:48] <Chizbang> Has all my important work disapeered?
[20:48] <ggreer> neta: I usually throw inotifywait in a loop, like so: https://gist.github.com/ggreer/9162181
[20:50] <OerHeks> Chizbang, not sure, testdisk might be able to undo those changes. when you try something new, always backup "important stuff"
[20:50] <Chizbang> Just thought I could tryst Ubuntu
[20:50] <Chizbang> would test disk be able to get back my missing partition?
[20:51] <OerHeks> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[20:51] <genii> Chizbang: Try closing gparted, then run at commandline: sudo partprobe    then re-try gparted
[20:51] <JokesOnYou77> Ubuntu (or maybe Gnome) isn't detecting my right Super key. It generates the right scancode from $ showkey -s but in Gnome when I open the interactive keyboard map in Region&Language settings it shows nothing when I press the right Super (windows) key. How can I fix this.
[20:51] <JokesOnYou77> ?
[20:52] <neta> ggreer so basically it continuely checking if there was any notificationa nd then running a command
[20:52] <neta> thats great
[20:52] <ggreer> yeah. I actually use it on OS X the most
[20:52] <ggreer> with fsevents-tools
[20:52] <ggreer> but it should work with inotifywait just fine
[20:53] <neta> thank
[20:53] <ggreer> also it doesn't use polling. inotify is an efficient way to watch for changes
[20:53] <ggreer> the kernel alerts the program when things have changed
[20:54] <Chizbang> Genil: Windows install is showing up the same too
[20:54] <Chizbang> i put in my install disk
[20:54] <Chizbang> and checked the windows partition
[20:54] <ggreer> https://github.com/ggreer/fsevents-tools
[20:54] <Chizbang> and it s 1888GB big and theres 1830GB free
[20:54] <ggreer> ^^ some usage examples there. also there's an auto_rsync script
[20:56] <heath> any ideas on how ot grab this file and all its dependencies? http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:57] <Chrizby> Anyone know of a plug and play working USB Wifi Adapter for Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:57] <heath> i'm on a macbook pro 11,2
[20:57] <heath> i need these files for my wifi to work when i boot into ubuntu
[20:57]  * heath is attempting to install again...
[20:57] <genii> Chrizby: Almost anything by Belkin
[20:58] <Reid_> hello
[20:59] <Reid_> Is this the ubuntu help channel? irc noob
[20:59] <lu5er> <- Acer TravelMate 2430 - Can't get past the b34#devicefirmware issue, tried installing 3 diff *nix off a flash drive
[21:00] <Reid_> could someone point me at the correct way to setup remote login? i dont think i want remote desktop, i have to go downstairs to login first...
[21:01] <aiko1> Reid_  , supposed to be, but no one is answering :)
[21:01] <Reid_> aiko1: Must be an off day :)
[21:02] <geirha> Reid_: FreeNX
[21:04] <Reid_> FreeNX will work for gnome?
[21:05] <geirha> Gnome classic at least
[21:05] <Reid_> I just upgraded to 13.10, i'm assuming it doesnt come with classic?
[21:07] <geirha> !notunity
[21:08] <tushar-xj9_> topP--1996
[21:08] <Reid_> I suppose I will keep googling... I'm sure this must not be a uncommon goal... Thanks geirha
[21:10] <neta> will export PATH="$PATH:/etc/my-scripts/" be the right way to add  to paths ? so later on i can simply type sh script.sh and it will run instead of specifing the path
[21:11] <zykotick9> neta: fyi, for personal scripts, using ~/bin is in your default path (fyi, you need to logout and back in, after creating ~/bin for it to work)
[21:11] <geirha> neta: Yes, though a more common place to put custom scripts is /usr/local/bin  or just ~/bin  if they're only meant for you
[21:12] <geirha> neta: Also, don't add the .sh extension on your scripts, and make them executable rather than running sh
[21:12] <neta> like permission wise ?
[21:13] <geirha> neta: yes, chmod +x
[21:13] <genii> neta: May also want to put a shebang as the first line
[21:13] <geirha> Not "May", but "Must" :)
[21:13] <zykotick9> geirha: ahhh, scripts should have an extension (so in this case .sh or .bash type thing), only binary executables are "by defact-unix standards" suppose to be without extension [not that it technically matters either way]
[21:14]  * genii slides geirha a fresh beverage
[21:14] <geirha> zykotick9: Why? extensions only cause headaches
[21:15] <cicalas_> irc://irc.ItaLiaN-AmiCi.NeT/divx-italia
[21:17] <neta> the idea to make the file executable i love it
[21:19] <bekks> neta: Well, thats required for executing a file. :)
[21:20] <lu5er> <-- Using an Acer 2430, how do I get around the b43#devicefirmware issue when installing ubuntu from a pendrive?
[21:22] <zykotick9> lu5er: do you absolutely _need_ wireless for install?  no network-cable possible?  best of luck...  if you need b43xx you might need it.  have you seen "/msg ubottu broadcom" info?
[21:22] <xjkx> How do I open gnome-control-center in terminal, in a way it already goes to the sound option ?
[21:23] <zykotick9> xjkx: does it need elevated priviledges (ie root access)?  if so, try "gksudo WHATERYOURRUNNINGNOW"
[21:24] <lu5er> zykotick: Thanks, been reading and fiddling most of the day, I'll msg  ubottu next
[21:24] <zykotick9> xjkx: oh you just want to customize what it opens too... i have no idea.
[21:25] <xjkx> zykotick9: yea, I found out though, if anybody wants to learn too, its gnome-control-center sound thanks anyway
[21:31] <yeats> neta: following up on my nautilus suggestion... look into WinSCP for the same functionality on Windows
[21:32] <bekks> neta: Or use filezilla. On Ubuntu and Windows.
[21:34] <neta> for rsync is there a optin to update exising files rather then replacing ?
[21:34] <yeats> neta: -u
[21:34] <neta> thanks
[21:36] <j0llyr0tten> i picked nvidia-173 drivers and now ubuntu won't boot, what's the easiest way to put back nouveau drivers using install DVD?
[21:37] <j0llyr0tten> i'm at a terminal prompt after having booted from the install DVD
[21:37] <bekks> j0llyr0tten: Uninstall nvidia-173, and (re)install nouveau?
[21:38] <jjgalvez__> I went to install the amd64-microcode package and it wants to remove linux-gernic and linuc-image-generic. That does not seem all that safe to me is it?
[21:38] <j0llyr0tten> bekks: how to do this from the install DVD?
[21:39] <bekks> j0llyr0tten: The most easy way is to boot into rescue mode.
[21:39] <yeats> jjgalvez__: correct - you don't want that to happen
[21:40] <jjgalvez__> yeats: glad I didn't install the package, it seems to be a bug, which is still present in 14.04 (I'm running 13.10)
[21:41] <neta> rsync --progress -avhurz $sourcefolder $destinationfolder; looks right ? show progress, archive,verbus update recursive compress from soruce to desitination
[21:42] <bekks> neta: -a implies -rlptgoD
[21:43] <neta> -a isnt to move the file as they are with all the details ?
[21:43] <bekks> neta: ?
[21:44] <neta> Ah
[21:45] <neta> so i can remove r from mine
[21:45] <neta> alright
[21:45] <geirha> neta: missing quotes around the variable expansions.  "$sourcefolder" and "$destinationfolder"
[21:46] <neta> alright
[21:47] <bekks> neta: And "-u" actually does: "skip files that are newer on the receiver".
[21:50] <kbarrett> does anyone have avahi wizard skills?  i'm trying to use avahi inside a docker container in coreos
[21:50] <jjgalvez__> well it looks like the amd microcode no longer plays nicely so I should probably update my bios, which I hate doing
[21:50] <neta> so there isn't something that update the file's content by the brife look i took
[21:50] <kbarrett> and it's not responding to browse even from requests inside the same container
[21:50] <kbarrett> i'm not sure why
[21:51] <kbarrett> I don't know if the messages are supposed to be passed through dbus or broadcast packets
[21:51] <kbarrett> how to simulate a browse request or see what might be blocking them
[21:51] <kbarrett> they just fail, it doesn't look like they are even waiting for a timeout
[21:51] <kbarrett> but avahi-daemon -c && echo OK > "OK"
[21:53] <bekks> neta: -a does.
[21:53] <bekks> neta: An update can be easily identified by "oh, the file to be copied is newer than the file to be overwritten."
[21:54] <j0llyr0tten> bekks: sorry, but how do you boot into rescue mode
[21:54] <bekks> j0llyr0tten: By choosing it in the grub menu.
[21:55] <j0llyr0tten> bekks: ok, i googled it, i'll try that - thanks very much for your help kind sir :)
[21:55] <neta> bekks thanks again
[21:58] <neta> ok so the rsync little script work now notify
[22:06] <neta> ggreer you little script, wont it stop after a change happened ?
[22:06] <ggreer> no
[22:07] <ggreer> it's got an infinite loop in it
[22:07] <ggreer> ctrl+c to stop it
[22:07] <ggreer> you want inotifywait
[22:07] <ggreer> if you just want to exit
[22:07] <neta> so basically it accept a path
[22:08] <neta> COMMAND=("$@") this guy i dont understand
[22:09] <neta> can i not replace "${COMMAND[@]}" with my script name like, sudo scriptname and it would do the same ?
[22:19] <reload> hey! i have win7 and i have problem booting usb with ubuntu in it...
[22:20] <reload> i cant bood it on my laptop, tho it does work on pc!
[22:21] <reload> md5 matches!
[22:21] <bekks> reload: Define "cant boot" please. Does the laptop doesnt even boot from USB at all?
[22:22] <reload> when i boot usb, i get back text "SYSLINUX 4.07 EDD 2013-07-25 Copyright (C) 1994-2013 H. Peter Anvin et al"
[22:22] <reload> and it stops....
[22:27] <daftykins> reload: tried different ports?
[22:28] <reload> does it makes any difference? I can read and write flash... should it not boot also then?
[22:32] <daftykins> reload: *shrug* stranger things have happened
[22:32] <neta> ggreer you script simply runs endlessly and execute a command without anything to do with notifywait right ? i mean the command does not get executed in corosponding to and event
[22:33] <neta> in the while you dont seem to check anything, its just while ture do .... done
[22:33] <neta> or maybe i'm reading it wrong
[22:33] <ggreer> it's uhh.. I mean if you have trouble understanding what it does... I'm not sure what to tell you
[22:34] <neta> i have no clue what shift does, other then that it looks pretty straigh forward, i mean line 17,18,19 are the ones i am talking about,
[22:35] <ggreer> shift shifts args. so $1 disappears and $@ becomes everything after that
[22:35] <ggreer> then it waits for something to change in that path, and executes the command afterwards
[22:36] <ggreer> it's a really really simple script. it just waits for a change, and runs the command you specify each time
[22:37] <neta> i tried running it, it runs the command endlessly that's why i asked
[22:43] <kbarrett> does anyone know how to block a broadcast packet?
[22:43] <kbarrett> (i'm really trying to see how they are being blocked, so I can unblock them)
[22:44] <thunder> hello anyone in here
[22:46] <kbarrett> yo
[22:48] <thunder> how's it going kbarrett, i was wondering if you can give me your opinion on the linux + certification?
[22:48] <kbarrett> never heard of it
[22:48] <kbarrett> do you know if it's possible for broadcast packets to jump interfaces over a bridge?
[22:50] <thunder> thats a good question,  I guess i would say no because the packets would be dropped if they weren't recognizes
[22:51] <thunder> dont quote me on that though lol, I am trying to remember the cisco training i had.
[22:52] <kbarrett> i'm a coreos/docker user
[22:52] <thunder> are you having trouble sending
[22:52] <kbarrett> i have several containers that all have ip addresses on their own veth
[22:52] <kbarrett> and then docker0 is the bridge interface on the host that connects them all
[22:53] <kbarrett> so, I set a broadcast address on all of the interfaces
[22:53] <kbarrett> they're all in 172.17.0.0/16
[22:53] <kbarrett> so I used 172.17.255.255
[22:53] <kbarrett> the host is 172.17.42.1
[22:53] <kbarrett> and it's the only one that can receive broadcast packets, and only from itself
[22:54] <kbarrett> take that back
[22:54] <kbarrett> they could all receive broadcast packets from the host as well
[22:54] <kbarrett> but never from each other
[22:55] <kbarrett> i'm using netcat to try to understand why avahi doesn't work at all
[22:55] <kbarrett> which seems like wholly inadequate simulation now that I think about it
[22:55] <kbarrett> but i'm sure that avahi uses broadcast udp packets
[22:56] <kbarrett> so I figured I should start by trying to use broadcast udp myself for something
[22:56] <thunder> your in the 172.17.42.0/16 network right?
[22:56] <kbarrett> well the network is 172.17.0.0/16
[22:57] <kbarrett> the containers all live under 172.17.0.(1-7)
[22:57] <kbarrett> and the host is 172.17.42.1
[22:57] <kbarrett> which is all the same subnet because /16
[22:58] <kbarrett> i can get directed udp from one container to the other
[22:58] <daftykins> kbarrett: they're not getting blocked, they're not getting repeated is all :) you'd need a lower level bridge
[22:59] <kbarrett> daftykins: no, that's not the problem and here's the reason I know
[22:59] <kbarrett> because broadcast packets from within the same container don't reach the same container
[22:59] <kbarrett> nc -l -u 0.0.0.0 50001 (in one terminal)
[23:00] <kbarrett> echo packet|nc -u 172.17.255.255 50001 (in the other)
[23:00] <kbarrett> both on the same container
[23:00] <kbarrett> nothing happens
[23:01] <kbarrett> so it's like broadcast packets are disabled for some reason
[23:01] <kbarrett> but  eth0: <BROADCAST,UP,LOWER_UP>
[23:01] <kbarrett> therefore i'm lost
[23:01] <kbarrett> or does this not preclude what you're saying is my issue
[23:02] <kbarrett> i'm open to the possibility that I'm wrong :D
[23:02] <kbarrett> should I try a different broadcast address?
[23:03] <kbarrett> like 172.17.0.255
[23:03] <thunder> sorry man, I am stumped on your question, but if it was something with your network address I would try to have it after 172.17.42.1/16
[23:03] <daftykins> kbarrett: this has got to be pretty far off topic for this channel
[23:04] <kbarrett> daftykins: well yes but the goal is to make avahi work
[23:04] <kbarrett> and these are ubuntu containers :)
[23:04] <kbarrett> if you have any wisdom to share I'm very appreciative
[23:04] <daftykins> just can't help but feel there must be a better place for this topic
[23:05] <kbarrett> i'm coming up dry in #docker and #coreos
[23:05] <kbarrett> next place I'll check is #linux
[23:05] <kbarrett> maybe there is an lxc channel
[23:05] <thunder> daftykins: I gave kbarrett some feedback on the network addressing, but i might still be wrong
[23:05] <thunder> sorry i wasnt much help bro
[23:06] <godzzo> Hi
[23:06] <thunder> hello
[23:07] <kbarrett> thanks for trying
[23:07] <godzzo> Any one try ubuntu phone? I am just curious about that...
[23:08] <thunder> no but i really want to
[23:08] <thunder> i work with cellphones and really want to get my hands on one
[23:09] <thunder> but none of the providers in my area have them for sale :/
[23:09] <godzzo> we develop to android 4+ and iphone phones and i try firefox os but i never see ubuntu phone
[23:10] <thunder> how is the firefox os in your opinion?
[23:10] <godzzo> it is very intresting, i like the philosophy what is behind it
[23:11] <OerHeks> !phone
[23:11] <daftykins> guys this channel is not for random conversation, join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[23:11] <godzzo> free the mobile apps that is about the mozilla fundaiton
[23:11] <daftykins> ubuntu support questions here ONLY
[23:11] <godzzo> sorry, i start it
[23:11] <godzzo> i have to read the welcome notes maybe
[23:12] <godzzo> bye
[23:22] <ethermonk> is there a way toany way to prod the "Restoring previously installed packages" process along?
[23:35] <kcdehimposter> Hey my wifi keeps dropping randomly, and suggestions?
[23:36] <ethermonk> it would help to know what wifi chipset you are running. in application launcher open terminal emulator, type lspci (or lsusb if wifi is usb) and look for what chipset the network adapter is
[23:37] <kcdehimposter> Wireless Adapter v1000 [Realtek RTL8192SU]
[23:37] <kcdehimposter> Is that it?
[23:38] <mattwj2002> what the heck is going on with freenode?
[23:38] <mattwj2002> sorry wrong window
[23:42] <neta> how can you do loopwithin a loop in sh ?
[23:43] <neta> like while something do while something2 do soemthing done done
[23:46] <neta> Never mind done a recursive function to handle that
[23:47] <neta> ggreer, mate there was some error in your thing was it designed for some other system ?
[23:52] <eflynn> hi
[23:55] <Bray90820> So i can't seem to connect to a windows network
[23:55] <antonio999999999> film
[23:55] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[23:57] <neta> I am very proud of my little script !!
[23:57] <mattwj2002> what does it do neta?
[23:58] <neta> nothing much simply push from /home/user/public_html/ to /www/var/site when file change happeneds :-) i am new to linux or servers
[23:59] <mattwj2002> neta no worries
[23:59] <mattwj2002> so it copies?
[23:59] <mattwj2002> or did it create a symbolic link?
[23:59] <neta> it rsyncs
[23:59] <mattwj2002> nice
[23:59] <mattwj2002> I like rsync
[23:59] <neta> i now realize this might be an issue i am not sure if it also deletes