[01:04] <coreire> I installed Lubuntu 13.10 on a system that I want to use as a media/file server. I edited /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT to "text" so that it wouldn't start a graphical session because I don't want to waste resources when it's running as a server. I'd like to be able to start a graphical session when I want to but if I type "startx" it just boots to a black screen.Any tips on how to fix the startx problem or on a better
[10:57] <counter> hi, my lubuntu ignores vino @ autostart, it is selected at the desktop settings and the vino.desktop file is placed at .config/autostart/vino.desktop  http://pastebin.com/yBpb5cwU
[11:04] <counter> is something wrong at the desktop file? I can not see why ..
[11:16] <diecastarts> hello all.. BACKSTORY been having a problem logging into my normal DesktopE' unless i'm uses the guest account or a different desktop. have some people try to help but no good. But I was thinking it maybe because it was set to auto login. when this start i had a game crash and rebooted the computer and it goes to the login screen but when i try to login it goes black for a second and then back to the login again
[11:16] <diecastarts> So my question is what file would hold the setting for the auto login I think if i turn that off and reboot it should fix the problem
[11:17] <diecastarts> ????
[11:28] <lancelot_> Hello, I can't access youtube.com
[11:28] <diecastarts> i'm still pretty new to linux but what happening. any errors or odd things happen..
[11:29] <diecastarts> but a tip you have to learn to ask question or people will normally never answer you questions here
[11:29] <lancelot_> Are you asking me, diecastarts?
[11:29] <diecastarts> yeah
[11:29] <lancelot_> Well, I don't know what to tell you,
[11:30] <lancelot_> youtube.com is unavailable, when any other site is....
[11:30] <diecastarts> if ya try clean you internet temp files
[11:30] <lancelot_> It didn't start right away from a fresh install
[11:31] <lancelot_> So i don't thim=nk is the temmp folder
[11:31] <diecastarts> using firefox or chrome
[11:31] <lancelot_> firefox
[11:31] <lancelot_> but it happened the same on other pc
[11:31] <diecastarts> ohh can ya get to the site but the videos are not showing up?
[11:34] <diecastarts> I am guessing you may not have installed the Ubuntu-restricted-addons
[11:35] <diecastarts> that adds all things like the stuff you need to play dvd's and also installs stuff like gstreaming ectect to run alot of things
[11:37] <diecastarts> lancelot_,
[14:50] <keiserr> hi, am trying to install lubuntu on an old pentium machine, 128MB ram.
[14:50] <keiserr> I used the alternate iso ofcourse
[14:51] <keiserr> problem is, it doesn't detect my usb keyboard, which does work up to the bios menu.. but stops working the morning i get that choose your language option
[14:52] <keiserr> *the moment I get to ..
[14:53] <keiserr> can i somehow use another minimal ubuntu version to boot form that, so as i can get keyboard functionalities there and do an upgrade from that using the lubuntu cd inside without having to reboot?
[14:58] <holstein> !mini | keiserr
[14:59] <holstein> i would probably try TTY.. and it still could be hardware releated on older hardware like that
[16:26] <counter> pushing my problem ;) my lubuntu ignores vino @ autostart, it is selected at the desktop settings and the vino.desktop file is placed at .config/autostart/vino.desktop http://pastebin.com/yBpb5cwU
[18:10] <counter> the autostart desktop file is working at another pc ... but not on my ... could that be deactivated somehow? if I use terminal, it is not even showing up and it is checked for autostart at desktop session setting
[18:19] <vn151502510> counter: most desktop files in ~/.config/autostart have OnlyShowIn Not in LXDE, not sure still working. But I figure out a way: create a bash file with content like sleep 4; pcmanfm "desktopfile"; sleep 4; pcmanfm.... Put bash file in manual auto start file in ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart. And it works
[18:29] <counter> why? pacmanfm? "sleep 4; pcmanfm ~/.config/autostart/vino.desktop; " like that?
[18:29] <vn151502510> pcmanfm can run desktop file
[18:31] <counter> ok, I try, thanks
[18:37] <counter> it is working, awesome :D
[20:54] <aristoteles> hello lubuntu room.  i've just installed lubuntu 13.10 on a dell inspriron with amd a6 apu and radeon 'temash'.  strangely, after install, i reboot and all is fine, but on my second boot, x crashes.  i've tried many things and actually gone through the entire process twice now.  i've got all the info you need about hardward and packages and whatnot.  if anyone is around to discuss, please reply.
[20:55] <aristoteles> the strangest thing is the way the live usb works fine, and the first reboot is fine, but subsequent reboots leave X unable to start.
[20:56] <aristoteles> i have all error logs and hardware logs ready to paste if you are interested.
[20:57] <holstein> aristoteles: you are applying updates?
[21:10] <aristoteles> holstein, no
[21:10] <aristoteles> well, sorry let me be more specific
[21:10] <holstein> aristoteles: something is happening
[21:10] <holstein> aristoteles: when you look at what *is* happening, we should be able to see what it causing the trouble
[21:10] <aristoteles> on the install, i clicked 'download updates while installing'.  the initial reboot booted into a working x server
[21:11] <holstein> aristoteles: and, you get the login screen?
[21:11] <aristoteles> yes, i was able to log in and use the desktop
[21:11] <holstein> aristoteles: ok
[21:11] <aristoteles> then upon rebooting, x crashes and no login screen.  i can use the computer with a tty, but starting x crashes
[21:11] <holstein> aristoteles: so, you install.. then, you login and eveything is fine
[21:11] <holstein> *then* the *next* time.. can you get to the login screen?
[21:11] <holstein> no
[21:12] <aristoteles> in that mode, i did do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to see if it would help, several packages updated, but that hasn't helpsed
[21:12] <holstein> but, tty *does* allow you to login?
[21:12] <aristoteles> holstein, exactly.
[21:12] <aristoteles> yes, the system is working fine.  i can paste the xorg.0.log if you like
[21:12] <aristoteles> i can generate two types of errored xorg.0.logs.
[21:13] <aristoteles> using the liveusb, i had to boot with nomodeset.  and the successful reboot also requried nomodeset.
[21:13] <aristoteles> now x crashes with our without nomodeset but the error is differnet in the xorg.0.log
[21:13] <holstein> aristoteles: and now, with nomodeset, all is well?
[21:13] <holstein> ok
[21:13] <holstein> let me make 2 suggestions
[21:13] <aristoteles> if it were working with nomodeset then all would be as it was with the liveusb.
[21:13] <holstein> aristoteles: try an xorg.conf with the vesa driver
[21:14] <aristoteles> please suggest away.
[21:14] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[21:14] <holstein> the other is to blow out your user config, but, i dont think thats going to matter, since the login screen is not loading
[21:15] <aristoteles> let me try with this xorg.conf thanks for the suggestion.
[21:16] <aristoteles> currently i have no xorg.conf so i'm going to create one in /etc/X11/ and type startx.
[21:16] <aristoteles> lol, i'm going have to have to do wget on that page to get the conf, since i have no desktop browser.
[21:16] <aristoteles> ermm, no desktop at all.
[21:17] <holstein> aristoteles: i would put the on i linked in place, and reboot
[21:17] <holstein> aristoteles: i can PM it to you if you need
[21:20] <aristoteles> thanks, holstein, i'm actually using irc on another computer
[21:20] <aristoteles> thankfully, i'm quite skilled in vi, so wget and a few regexes means i've got this.
[21:20] <aristoteles> just had to answer a phone call for a moment there.
[21:22] <aristoteles> ok rebooting now, i hope this helps :)
[21:23] <aristoteles> nope, X still crashed, looking in Xorg.0.log (i booted with nomodeset)
[21:24] <aristoteles> different error than before.   V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range
[21:24] <aristoteles> shall i paste this log for you?
[21:25] <holstein> aristoteles: dont boot with nomodeset and that xorg
[21:25] <holstein> aristoteles: just boot normally with the xorg.conf in place
[21:25] <aristoteles> holstein: actually it was the same error as before.  i will remove nomodeset and reboot.
[21:25] <aristoteles> holstein: doing as you say now...
[21:28] <aristoteles> strange, x did not start, but something seems stuck.  i see a mostly black screen with noise in the background and a cursor flashing in upper left.  but i cannot access any ttys with ctrl+alt+F1-F6?
[21:28] <holstein> aristoteles: you can feel free to post logs
[21:28] <holstein> aristoteles: also, you can try #ubuntu or other larger communities, since its likely not related to lubuntu or lxde specifically
[21:29] <aristoteles> holstein, you are probably right about that.
[21:29] <holstein> i would try and go back to the basics.. test the memory and the hard drive
[21:29] <aristoteles> holstein, i'm not sure how to save this log, since the computer seems stuck, i can power cycle it but then perhaps xorg.0.log won't be saved.
[21:29] <holstein> a bad hard drive could change the data and cause issues
[21:30] <aristoteles> holstein, i see. do you have a particular test program you recommend?
[21:30] <holstein> aristoteles: i use the ultimate boot cd.. but, there are tools from the live CD i use.. gsmartcontrol and just the memtest in the grub menu
[21:32] <aristoteles> holstein: does Xorg.0.log.old always contain the penultimate xorg log?
[21:33] <holstein> aristoteles: id just have to see it
[21:33] <holstein> and, even then, it may not mean anything to me
[21:34] <aristoteles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6984050/
[21:35] <aristoteles> penultimate means 'second-to-last', it seems that the hanging boot with the xorg.conf+without nomodeset didn't end up saving an xorg.log
[21:36] <holstein> aristoteles: for my dollar, i would personally just try a different version.. even 14.04, even though its not released yet officially
[21:37] <aristoteles> holstein, i don't have any reason not to try that.
[21:37] <aristoteles> this is a brand new computer.
[21:37] <holstein> aristoteles: right.. also, is this a *new* machine? like new to you with ueif?
[21:37] <holstein> !uefi
[21:38] <holstein> could be related to that...
[21:38] <aristoteles> holstein: it absolutely could be.  it's definetly the first machine i've ever had to deal with that has uefi.
[21:39] <holstein> i would suggest just trying to disable that in the bios
[21:39] <holstein> not the uefi.. but "secure boot", or whatever could be messing you pu
[21:39] <holstein> up*
[21:39] <aristoteles> do you think i should add 14.04 to sources.list and do apt-get dist-upgrade or create a new lie usb?
[21:39] <aristoteles> i believe that i have secure boot off and uefi on instead of legacy boot.
[21:39] <holstein> aristoteles: i personally dont dist-upgrade
[21:39] <aristoteles> currently
[21:40] <holstein> an install takes like 8 minutes.. dist-upgrade takes hours
[21:40] <aristoteles> holstein you are right about that.
[21:40] <holstein> aristoteles: i wish you well.. i need to run for a bit.. cheers and good luck!
[21:41] <aristoteles> FYI: here is the xorg log without an xorg.conf and without nomodeset, the error is different, it's a segfault from aX.
[21:41] <aristoteles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6984082/
[21:41] <aristoteles> thanks for the help, holstein.
[21:41] <aristoteles> i just saw the time and i have to go too.
[21:42] <aristoteles> i'll try this again later.
[21:42] <aristoteles> peace
[22:05] <gomaaz> hi guys
[22:05] <gomaaz> <- new to lubuntu
[22:10] <gomaaz> is it possible to start the xfce4-power-manager-settings by bootup?
[22:27] <gomiboy> gomaaz: can't imagine why you want to do that, but start -> preferences -> default applications for lxsession -> autostart and you can add whatever you want
[22:54] <greeter> say, about that last question, can scripts be added to autostart?
[22:54] <lancelot_> Hello, what's the shortcut to change workspaces?
[23:16] <lancelot_> Got it, it's ctrl alt arrow.Thank's to myself.
[23:18] <gomiboy> lancelot_: or ctrl + alt + mouse wheel :)