=== aim1159 is now known as Guest79738 === yofel is now known as Guest77623 === jackson is now known as Guest16889 === Guest16889 is now known as Noskcaj === OutOfControl is now known as benonsoftware === Guest77623 is now known as yofel === bigon_ is now known as bigon === yofel_ is now known as Guest39928 === shadeslayer_ is now known as Guest58286 === makije_ is now known as makije === Guest39928 is now known as yofel [16:11] So, just wanted to ask a quick question [16:12] Is it possible to install Ubuntu-Gnome through the mini.iso in trusty? [16:12] You can't in Saucy AFAIK [16:13] Unless you skip package selection altogether and do apt-get ubuntu-gnome-desktop... [16:13] But, I just wanted to know if it can be done through the default package options [16:13] in trusty [21:44] Hello! Is anyone around? [21:47] whats the right way to personal file share on your network in linux? with a gui, no terminal, not windows service stuff, like ssh folder share 4 dummies or something? [21:48] Linux newbie here, can't help you much xD [21:52] X-Tor, There's always people here [21:52] jbooms, Try asking in #ubuntu [21:53] Sweet. [21:54] I was wondering how the installation of 14.04 Alpha 2 works. [21:55] I mean, what should I do if I only want to update my current 13.10 to 14.04, without losing anything? [21:56] One of the upgrade tests at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds/63073/testcases should have the instructions [21:56] Just make sure you remove all PPAs before you upgrade, they sometimes break stuff [21:57] Thanks, I'll check it out. Also, and perhaps more importantly, using this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 should give me GNOME 3.11 under 14.04, correct? [22:08] X-Tor, yeah [22:08] Great! [22:09] By the way, I think you linked the daily builds [22:10] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/310/builds/61644/testcases [22:10] ^ this appears to be the Alpha 2 one. [22:11] I'm just prepping for the beta release, I'd like to make sure I know how to upgrade properly. [22:11] The instructions are the same, and you won't upgrade to the alpha/beta, you'll upgrade to the daily [22:11] It's all fairly stable now [22:19] Aright, going for it, then. [22:20] But, just to be clear, did you mean that I should uncheck all of my custom PPA in the update manager? [22:20] Or perhaps all of them altogether? Or remove them completely? [22:21] just disable all the ppas on your system, it's not usually an issue, but it can break things if they're left on [22:21] Done :) [22:22] Thanks a lot for your help, Noskcaj [22:22] no problem [22:41] Noskcaj, gnome3 ppa will be 3.10 only for trusty [22:41] and gnome3-team ppa's really should be purged, not just disabled [22:41] before upgrade [22:41] oops, yeah [22:42] * Noskcaj should stop giving advice without ever having used ubuntu-gnome [22:43] its pretty general to Ubuntu, the upgrader gets confused if there are packages ahead of the archive [22:43] same would apply to xorg-edgers etc [22:46] Noskcaj, can you see if you can track down what broke spamassassin on our daily builds? [22:46] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/trusty/ubuntu-gnome/latest/livecd-amd64.out [22:46] last good build was 18th Feb ;( [22:47] i'll have a look [22:51] darkxst, Well the cause is that spamassassin 3.4.0-1 move to -release that day [22:55] ok, and we are the only flavour that seeds spamassassin ;( [22:59] Debian's got a fair few new bugs from this release, but i can't see anything related to our issue [23:08] stddef.h should come from the kernel headers, but it appears to be missing