[16:11] <BlitzHere> So, just wanted to ask a quick question
[16:12] <BlitzHere> Is it possible to install Ubuntu-Gnome through the mini.iso in trusty?
[16:12] <BlitzHere> You can't in Saucy AFAIK
[16:13] <BlitzHere> Unless you skip package selection altogether and do apt-get ubuntu-gnome-desktop...
[16:13] <BlitzHere> But, I just wanted to know if it can be done through the default package options
[16:13] <BlitzHere> in trusty
[21:44] <X-Tor> Hello! Is anyone around?
[21:47] <jbooms> whats the right way to personal file share on your network in linux? with a gui, no terminal, not windows service stuff, like ssh folder share 4 dummies or something?
[21:48] <X-Tor> Linux newbie here, can't help you much xD
[21:52] <Noskcaj> X-Tor, There's always people here
[21:52] <Noskcaj> jbooms, Try asking in #ubuntu
[21:53] <X-Tor> Sweet.
[21:54] <X-Tor> I was wondering how the installation of 14.04 Alpha 2 works.
[21:55] <X-Tor> I mean, what should I do if I only want to update my current 13.10 to 14.04, without losing anything?
[21:56] <Noskcaj> One of the upgrade tests at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds/63073/testcases should have the instructions
[21:56] <Noskcaj> Just make sure you remove all PPAs before you upgrade, they sometimes break stuff
[21:57] <X-Tor> Thanks, I'll check it out. Also, and perhaps more importantly, using this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 should give me GNOME 3.11 under 14.04, correct?
[22:08] <Noskcaj> X-Tor, yeah
[22:08] <X-Tor> Great!
[22:09] <X-Tor> By the way, I think you linked the daily builds
[22:10] <X-Tor> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/310/builds/61644/testcases
[22:10] <X-Tor> ^ this appears to be the Alpha 2 one.
[22:11] <X-Tor> I'm just prepping for the beta release, I'd like to make sure I know how to upgrade properly.
[22:11] <Noskcaj> The instructions are the same, and you won't upgrade to the alpha/beta, you'll upgrade to the daily
[22:11] <Noskcaj> It's all fairly stable now
[22:19] <X-Tor> Aright, going for it, then.
[22:20] <X-Tor> But, just to be clear, did you mean that I should uncheck all of my custom PPA in the update manager?
[22:20] <X-Tor> Or perhaps all of them altogether? Or remove them completely?
[22:21] <Noskcaj> just disable all the ppas on your system, it's not usually an issue, but it can break things if they're left on
[22:21] <X-Tor> Done :)
[22:22] <X-Tor> Thanks a lot for your help, Noskcaj
[22:22] <Noskcaj> no problem
[22:41] <darkxst> Noskcaj, gnome3 ppa will be 3.10 only for trusty
[22:41] <darkxst> and gnome3-team ppa's really should be purged, not just disabled
[22:41] <darkxst> before upgrade
[22:41] <Noskcaj> oops, yeah
[22:42]  * Noskcaj should stop giving advice without ever having used ubuntu-gnome
[22:43] <darkxst> its pretty general to Ubuntu, the upgrader gets confused if there are packages ahead of the archive
[22:43] <darkxst> same would apply to xorg-edgers etc
[22:46] <darkxst> Noskcaj, can you see if you can track down what broke spamassassin on our daily builds?
[22:46] <darkxst> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/trusty/ubuntu-gnome/latest/livecd-amd64.out
[22:46] <darkxst> last good build was 18th Feb ;(
[22:47] <Noskcaj> i'll have a look
[22:51] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Well the cause is that spamassassin 3.4.0-1 move to -release that day
[22:55] <darkxst> ok, and we are the only flavour that seeds spamassassin ;(
[22:59] <Noskcaj> Debian's got a fair few new bugs from this release, but i can't see anything related to our issue
[23:08] <darkxst> stddef.h should come from the kernel headers, but it appears to be missing