| xnox_ | ogra: thanks. | 00:01 |
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| ogra | :) | 00:01 |
| xnox_ | ogra: watching unity8 autopilot test is fun =) it shows me so many things, i didn't know existed. | 00:02 |
| ogra | haha, yeah ... stuff we will probably never actually see | 00:02 |
| xnox_ | ogra: btw. about ofono-scripts, why did you seed them onto the image? and can I drop them? | 00:02 |
| ogra | they are important for debugging | 00:02 |
| ogra | talk to awe, he needs them a lot (and their output from users) | 00:03 |
| xnox_ | ogra: ... and they will stop working any day now. they are all in python2. | 00:03 |
| ogra | so they need to be ported ... they are pretty essential to collect data from ril | 00:04 |
| xnox_ | ogra: either awe or somebody else should invest into porting them to python3, or they need to be dropped temporary and installed on as-needed basis. | 00:04 |
| ogra | (and for various features for which we dont have a UI) | 00:04 |
| xnox_ | (as in activate read-write mode and install them) | 00:04 |
| xnox_ | ogra: i wonder if i could package a minimal python2 and those scripts into a click =))))) lolz | 00:05 |
| ogra | no, we cant really ask that from endusers | 00:05 |
| ogra | i'll bring it up next week | 00:05 |
| ogra | cant be to hard to port them | 00:05 |
| xnox_ | ack. i filed it as bug #1283571 | 00:05 |
| ubot5 | bug 1283571 in ofono (Ubuntu) "ofono-scripts must be ported to python3" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1283571 | 00:05 |
| ogra | bookmarked | 00:06 |
| xnox_ | ogra: i have most of autopilot tests run and pass under python3 (well, not regress on my devices) | 00:06 |
| ogra | cool | 00:06 |
| xnox_ | ogra: thus i'm hunting down remaining things that reverse pull in python2. | 00:06 |
| axisys | ogra: that ubuntu touch image did not work.. toshiba thrive tablet stay on for a sec and turns off right away.. | 00:06 |
| axisys | ogra: working on ports | 00:06 |
| ogra | axisys, nice | 00:06 |
| axisys | ogra: doing phablet-dev-bootstrap now | 00:07 |
| xnox_ | ogra: why is dbus-x11 seeded explicitely? | 00:07 |
| xnox_ | ogra: i couldn't find justification for that so far. | 00:07 |
| xnox_ | (and it predates current seeds history) | 00:07 |
| axisys | ogra: next step is Enabling a new device -> MANUAL says | 00:07 |
| ogra | dunno, i didnt seed it | 00:08 |
| axisys | ogra: From the individual device wiki page, grab the git repositories that are specific to your device | 00:08 |
| axisys | ogra: my device is not there obviously | 00:08 |
| xnox_ | ogra: ack. appears to be a copy paste from ubuntu-desktop to be honest. | 00:08 |
| rsalveti | xnox_: if it's the only one bringing python2, we can remove I guess | 00:08 |
| rsalveti | otherwise I'd keep it a bit more | 00:08 |
| ogra | xnox_, it wasnt ... the original seed ame from the OEM team | 00:08 |
| rsalveti | until it's ported, as it's quite useful for debuggin | 00:08 |
| rsalveti | debugging | 00:08 |
| ogra | there is definitely beed a reason to seed it initially | 00:09 |
| ogra | we have to find out if the reason still exists though | 00:09 |
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| xnox_ | rsalveti: ok, thanks. It should be trivial to port to be honest. But i have no way to verify the port. Essentially execute each script.... and know what it suppose to do. | 00:09 |
| xnox_ | rsalveti: to be upstream friendly i guess they can be bilingual. | 00:09 |
| rsalveti | xnox_: right, I can bring this up with tony on monday | 00:09 |
| rsalveti | yeah | 00:09 |
| xnox_ | rsalveti: yes, please. If there is python porting monkey needed, foundations have resources to do that. But we'll need assistance in testing the port. | 00:10 |
| rsalveti | great, no worries | 00:10 |
| rsalveti | we're happy to help | 00:10 |
| xnox_ | rsalveti: by the way, did you test laney's gstreamer package split? | 00:10 |
| xnox_ | rsalveti: from the ppa. | 00:10 |
| xnox_ | rsalveti: cause i don't see that, that has landed yet. | 00:11 |
| * xnox_ goes to double check. | 00:11 | |
| ogra | hasnt | 00:11 |
| ogra | everyone was super busy with MWC preparation | 00:11 |
| ogra | getting our images in shape and the 4.4 port out etc etc | 00:11 |
| xnox_ | ogra: i missed my invite... heck I wish I was in sunny spain right now =) | 00:12 |
| * popey trundles to bed.. | 00:12 | |
| ogra | haha | 00:12 |
| popey | any specific 4.4 testing to do? | 00:12 |
| * ogra is in sunny germany ... but could be warmer :) | 00:12 | |
| * xnox_ is in flooded uk | 00:13 | |
| ogra | popey, well, cdimage just spit the image out | 00:13 |
| popey | will play in the morning | 00:14 |
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| ogra | system-image is still on it ... not sure it will get along :) | 00:14 |
| popey | right. nn | 00:16 |
| ogra | sleep well | 00:16 |
| axisys | ogra: ok phablet-dev-bootstrap completed. | 00:53 |
| axisys | ogra: don't see any roomservice.xml file to edit | 00:53 |
| axisys | ogra: find .repo/ -type f -name 'roomservice.xml' came back with nothing | 00:53 |
| axisys | ogra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting -> Enabling a new device -> MANUAL is where I am | 00:54 |
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| dougl | xnox I read to the bottom of that page and managed to install ubuntu but my tablet still sucks any suggestions to get networking workking wifi ly? | 01:05 |
| dougl | does not look too fully functioonal to me... am I missing something?/ | 01:08 |
| dougl | so is it me or is this stuff junk? can it be used? can I google something? | 01:10 |
| dougl | what ever I try this ubuntu thing says check network setting... | 01:12 |
| dougl | xnox, when you said fully functional did you mean fully functional except for etc? | 01:13 |
| xnox | dougl: you do need wifi to install new apps... you are probably clicking on the apps that are not installed. | 01:14 |
| xnox | dougl: try opening calculator. | 01:14 |
| dougl | xnox, love to where is it I have a white screen says network error and nothing else shows | 01:15 |
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| dougl | you need a blutooth Kb to use this? | 01:25 |
| dougl | well it aint no kde thats for sure... | 01:30 |
| xnox | dougl: i think you should watch videos / learn the concept first, such that you know the edges and know how to get around. | 01:30 |
| xnox | dougl: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/features | 01:30 |
| xnox | no keyboard required one pops up from the bottom when needed. | 01:30 |
| xnox | dougl: also which channel did you flash? | 01:30 |
| xnox | dougl: i'd recommend "trusty" channel. | 01:30 |
| dougl | need to see how to get ... trusty and not much sense in learning something that cant even log into facebook or gmail.... basic need alpha numeric input - if I need to watch a vidieo I'd be happy to which one do you recomend | 01:32 |
| xnox | dougl: do you have wifi setup? | 01:36 |
| xnox | dougl: cause you can't do things on the internet.... unless you have internet.... | 01:36 |
| xnox | dougl: pull down from the top right, find networking, tap on your wifi to connect. | 01:36 |
| xnox | if wifi didn't come up (sometimes happens on first flash) try rebooting twice, by holding down powerbutton for 5s+ | 01:37 |
| dougl | heh reminds me of windows 95 | 01:39 |
| dougl | everything is different and half the stuff does not work - lol | 01:40 |
| dougl | looks like more junk... | 01:41 |
| dougl | oops wrong window | 01:42 |
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| dougl | yeah - this is buggyer than win 95 tho... xnox you say this is supposed to work?/ | 01:43 |
| xnox | dougl: i don't know what you did, what you installed, and how you installed it.... | 01:43 |
| xnox | dougl: but yeah, it just works, and i use it as both my main tablet and phone. | 01:44 |
| xnox | =/ | 01:44 |
| dougl | xnox, I am in good company then... I don't know any of those things either - lol | 01:45 |
| dougl | I will plug away xnox... | 01:45 |
| dougl | I remember redhat 5.2 made me feel this way... I will form some reasonable questions and get back to you xnox :) | 01:47 |
| dougl | xnox, but thank you at least I see something familiar on my tablet... I was cringing at 4.4.2 what ever that is. | 01:47 |
| dougl | xnox how do you get a command prompt? | 02:19 |
| axisys | anyone ported ubuntu-touch on toshiba thrive tablet or know where to go next after running phablet-dev-bootstrap ? | 02:23 |
| axisys | I do not have a .repo/local_manifests/roomservice.xml to edit | 02:24 |
| wozniang | hi! I just have a problem when I tried to flash with Ubuntu Touch my Google/LG nexus 4 with Android 4.4.2. I used both ubuntu-device-flash and phablet-flash but it didn't work. | 03:13 |
| wozniang | i saw something that said "Secure boot enabled" in the "bootloader" screen on my nexus 4 | 03:14 |
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| ludwig_ | heya, im trying to flash my nex7 nakasi-kot49h, i'm in the boot loader (already unlocked), using the command "ubuntu-device-flash --channel devel --bootstrap" | 06:58 |
| ludwig_ | my errors in cli are Device is |flo|, device flow not on server https://system=image.ubunto.com channel devel | 06:59 |
| amitrane04 | hello every-body | 07:02 |
| amitrane04 | I want a little help about making ubuntu touch as a career | 07:03 |
| genii | Hm, yes, good luck with that | 07:04 |
| amitrane04 | May I know how to start with it | 07:04 |
| amitrane04 | I am good in core java and c | 07:05 |
| amitrane04 | QML is new to me | 07:05 |
| amitrane04 | is UBUNTU TOUCH a good choice for making a career for earning | 07:06 |
| genii | amitrane04: I'm curious how you came to this conclusion | 07:06 |
| amitrane04 | genii: about what ? | 07:07 |
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| amitrane04 | Me from INDIA. There is nothing or can say zero market for ubuntu currently. so really confused about career making in ubuntu touch | 07:09 |
| amitrane04 | Why so Silence in the room ? | 07:13 |
| amitrane04 | hello | 07:16 |
| ludwig_ | is there a nexus7 flo image available yet | 07:17 |
| amitrane04 | anybody with ubuntu touch programming skill here | 07:18 |
| amitrane04 | What difference between in Qt & QML | 07:21 |
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| aditya369 | when i copy my file from my pc to ubuntu touch on my samsung nexus i geting erro like Error writing file: -108: No such file or directory | 09:00 |
| aditya369 | hen i copy my file from my pc to ubuntu touch on my samsung nexus i geting erro like Error writing file: -108: No such file or directory | 09:10 |
| genii | aditya369: Perhaps the destination folder needs to be created | 09:12 |
| AndChat144384 | Re all | 09:50 |
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| loredan | Ok | 09:50 |
| loredan | Salut | 09:52 |
| loredan | Este cineva? | 09:52 |
| loredan | I need suport | 09:53 |
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| wthielen | does anyone here edit the Ubuntu Touch wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | 13:01 |
| popey | yes | 13:05 |
| popey | (it's a wiki, anyone can) | 13:05 |
| wthielen | yea i guess, but i dont have a login | 13:05 |
| popey | why do you ask out of interest? | 13:06 |
| wthielen | just wanted to share that for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, a --device maguro is needed | 13:06 |
| wthielen | as it identifies itself as tuna | 13:06 |
| wthielen | probably because the Koreans don't like the Japanese "maguro" and translated it into tuna... <_< | 13:07 |
| popey | interesting | 13:07 |
| wthielen | i did a partial mirror of the system-image to get the files I needed, then used --server http://localhost to install it, until i found out about the --device thing | 13:08 |
| wthielen | (anyway, still no luck with booting into Ubuntu Touch on my Galaxy Nexus) | 13:08 |
| wthielen | after pushing the trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip as /sdcard/autodeploy.zip, and rebooting the phone into recovery | 13:31 |
| wthielen | how long does it take before it reboots again? | 13:32 |
| wthielen | cause it kind of sucks to not see anything happening on the screen while im in the CWM-based recovery | 13:32 |
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| FuLgOrE_ | anybody of the N5 / hammerhead guys here? | 13:53 |
| dougl | morning | 14:04 |
| HunterOrion | will this run jre | 14:28 |
| dougl | So I installed ubuntu on my nexus... it does not seem to be ready for prime time... did I install the wrong version? | 14:42 |
| FuLgOrE_ | haha :-) Chris (from the mailing list) made the sound working on Nexus 5 / hammerhead :-D | 14:44 |
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| FuLgOrE_ | rsalveti: PING PING PING! :-D | 14:45 |
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| dougl | trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz is what I installed on my nexus but it does not seem to be working correctly... apt-get upgrade is broken for one b ut other things too is that what I was supposed to install? | 14:45 |
| dougl | no keys to enter login information | 15:09 |
| dougl | and upgrade is broken... anyone have any suggestions? | 15:11 |
| FuLgOrE_ | dougl: sorry I cannot help you. But I would suggest to ask again tomorrow. It's very silent at the weekend... | 15:14 |
| dougl | FuLgOrE_, that is a help in itself - thanks am new to the channel... just thot no one but you loved me - lol, thanks for the info :) | 15:17 |
| FuLgOrE_ | dougl: I guess you will get support on Monday :) | 15:17 |
| dougl | FuLgOrE_, you run ubuntu touch? | 15:18 |
| FuLgOrE_ | yes, I do. but a inofficial N5 image | 15:18 |
| basketballllll | When does nexus 7 2013 get status page | 15:18 |
| FuLgOrE_ | basketballllll: what do you mean with "get status page"? | 15:20 |
| basketballllll | Like how all the other nexus devices have that spreadsheet | 15:20 |
| FuLgOrE_ | I could only guess. As far as I have red on the mailing list, they want to put the 4.4.2er images on cdimages, soon. but as fas as I know it will be supported in 14.04. | 15:22 |
| FuLgOrE_ | So I think you have to wait until the end of April | 15:22 |
| basketballllll | Ok and will it but stable | 15:22 |
| FuLgOrE_ | I'm not from Canonical, but I think so (if official supported...) | 15:23 |
| FuLgOrE_ | I can also only suggest to ask these questions tomorrow ;) | 15:23 |
| matv1 | dougl what exactly are you seeing? what not working for you? | 15:26 |
| dougl | matv1 when I apt-get upgrade from something like ssh it is broken... | 15:28 |
| dougl | lxc-android-config is what is broken or not available. | 15:29 |
| dougl | and when I try to type in a text box no input method comes up | 15:31 |
| matv1 | dougl okay I believe system-image updates are indeed broken atm | 15:31 |
| matv1 | let me look at the phones mailing list hang on | 15:31 |
| dougl | matv1, thanks... hope I am not taking you away from anything | 15:31 |
| matv1 | np dont worry about it. i was just reflashing myself | 15:33 |
| dougl | cool | 15:33 |
| dougl | thanks alot... knowing helps ::) | 15:33 |
| basketballllll | Why ask them tomorrow FuLgOrE | 15:33 |
| FuLgOrE_ | because more Canonical guys are available tomorrow | 15:34 |
| basketballllll | Why | 15:34 |
| matv1 | yes i see on the ubuntu phone mailing list an issue for system update. as well as a Launchpad bug | 15:34 |
| matv1 | https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg06481.html | 15:34 |
| matv1 | but I thoought that was solved.. | 15:35 |
| * dougl is reading | 15:35 | |
| matv1 | does that sound like you dougl ? | 15:35 |
| FuLgOrE_ | basketballllll: I guess because they work from Monday to Friday ;) | 15:35 |
| dougl | matv1, no I don't think so | 15:38 |
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| matv1 | dougl okay. so the image you mentioned earlier is the correct. | 15:39 |
| dougl | ok | 15:39 |
| matv1 | what nexus are you using? | 15:40 |
| dougl | 10 | 15:40 |
| matv1 | dougl so you can ssh into the device though? | 15:46 |
| dougl | matv1, I can adb shell into it but no sshd server running... cant figer that one out | 15:47 |
| matv1 | but you have been able to install it? that didnt give any errors? | 15:50 |
| dougl | no | 15:50 |
| dougl | err... yes instsall no errors | 15:51 |
| ogra | dougl, dist-upgrade is not supported | 15:51 |
| ogra | (it cant work with the design the images use) | 15:51 |
| dougl | no just upgrade | 15:51 |
| ogra | same | 15:51 |
| dougl | ? | 15:52 |
| ogra | you can install single packages, but upgrade or dist-upgrade wont work | 15:52 |
| ogra | (by design) | 15:52 |
| ogra | FuLgOrE_, attach your working ucm files to a bug so we can upload them | 15:52 |
| dougl | ogra, ok - works for me... do you know how to start sshd cuz that abd thing i have to use that usb cable right? | 15:53 |
| ogra | adb shell start ssh | 15:53 |
| FuLgOrE_ | ah, sure. but they are from Chris, not from me. Anyway I will upload | 15:53 |
| ogra | from a PC | 15:53 |
| ogra | (with USb connected) | 15:53 |
| ogra | ssh is preinstalled by disabled by default | 15:53 |
| dougl | ogra, k got it ... thanks - one more thing - how do you start ssh automatically when the device powers up | 15:55 |
| ogra | if you have your image writable (which i assume you do when installing debs) add "start ssh" to /etc/rc.local | 15:56 |
| dougl | ogra, you spoil me = thank you, when I ssh in what do I use for a login ... phablet is the password | 15:58 |
| ogra | and the user | 15:58 |
| dougl | thanks | 15:58 |
| FuLgOrE_ | ogra: any suggestions what I should do with the bug? The fix doesn't fix it completely. Sound works just basic and sometimes crashes, anyway the basics work! | 16:03 |
| dougl | ogra, do you know how to save the file just prompts for file name and then hitting enter does nothing | 16:03 |
| ogra | FuLgOrE_, well, mention that when attaching the files | 16:03 |
| ogra | better than nothing | 16:03 |
| FuLgOrE_ | ogra: should I select "this attachement contains a solution (patch) for this bug? | 16:03 |
| FuLgOrE_ | sure | 16:03 |
| FuLgOrE_ | I'm happy that the phone is a phone now ;-) | 16:03 |
| ogra | dougl, hwo do you edit ? vi ? ... esc->:wq | 16:04 |
| ogra | FuLgOrE_, hmm, i never select anything there :) | 16:04 |
| dougl | ogra, nano but it does not work like it has for the past 10 years | 16:05 |
| ogra | no, nano doesnt work via adb | 16:06 |
| matv1 | can anyone tell me if the SDK will run on VM's ? I believe there once was an Issue with opengl.. | 16:06 |
| ogra | adb mangles some shell characters | 16:06 |
| dougl | lol | 16:06 |
| FuLgOrE_ | my chinese internet connection is the worst piece of crap -.- | 16:07 |
| dougl | ssh does not work | 16:08 |
| dougl | ssh does not work fast - lol | 16:08 |
| FuLgOrE_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android/+bug/1276901 | 16:09 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1276901 in alsa-lib (Ubuntu) "alsa-lib: UCM - hammerhead sound doesn't work" [High,Confirmed] | 16:09 |
| ogra | thx | 16:10 |
| FuLgOrE_ | :) | 16:10 |
| ogra | eill take care to land that next week | 16:10 |
| ogra | *will | 16:10 |
| FuLgOrE_ | thx :) sounds good. I provided Chris all available settings from the original mixer_path.xml modified to match the UCM config. maybe he will improve something. | 16:12 |
| FuLgOrE_ | ogra: I guess somebody needs to put it in the alsa-lib as a patch | 16:12 |
| dougl | ssh supposed to work? | 16:13 |
| ogra | FuLgOrE_, yes, thats what i will do | 16:13 |
| ogra | dougl, yes | 16:13 |
| FuLgOrE_ | dougl: it works fine on my N5 | 16:13 |
| FuLgOrE_ | ogra: :) | 16:14 |
| cwayne | whoah you guys fixed sound on n5? | 16:14 |
| cwayne | BYEBYE ANDROID | 16:14 |
| ogra | heh | 16:14 |
| dougl | works like crap here ssh ing in from my 14.04 to phablet and seems to just hang | 16:14 |
| ogra | what device is that ? | 16:14 |
| ogra | i use it successfully on N4 and N7 (2013) | 16:15 |
| dougl | from notebook to N10 | 16:15 |
| FuLgOrE_ | cwayne: Chris did it. The basic works. Do you have access to the mailing list? If yes, take a look. | 16:15 |
| ogra | dougl, any your wlan is fine otherwise ? | 16:15 |
| FuLgOrE_ | dougl: On my N5 it works. On a wifi at my workplace it is really slow, at home it's fast | 16:16 |
| FuLgOrE_ | cwayne: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android/+bug/1276901 ---- just download the msm8........tar.gz and follow the instruction. ;-) | 16:17 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1276901 in alsa-lib (Ubuntu) "alsa-lib: UCM - hammerhead sound doesn't work" [High,Confirmed] | 16:17 |
| dougl | ogra, yep everything works ssh into 12.04 desktop and everything works nano save edit you know functional stuff... this tablet nothing I have tried works... is it ready for prime time? | 16:21 |
| ogra | N10 ? | 16:21 |
| dougl | yes | 16:21 |
| ogra | doesnt really get much Qa | 16:22 |
| ogra | *QA | 16:22 |
| dougl | ? | 16:22 |
| ogra | it should become better before release, but currently there isnt much testing of it | 16:22 |
| dougl | oh - did not realize... xnox said it was fully functional since 13.10 and gave me a link for instructions to install - this is what I got... ogra this is not a usable system is it? | 16:23 |
| FuLgOrE_ | good night! bye | 16:24 |
| ogra | well, my N10 here is kind of usable but i dont do much with it (focus is on N7 and N4 atm) | 16:24 |
| popey | ogra: any idea how I can get my n10 back to working state? | 16:25 |
| ogra | did you just follow the install wiki (from the channel topic) ? | 16:25 |
| ogra | popey, what does it do atm ? | 16:25 |
| popey | boots to the mwc image | 16:25 |
| popey | but flashing via ubuntu-devica thing fails | 16:25 |
| ogra | and thats not a working state ? | 16:25 |
| ogra | ah | 16:25 |
| ogra | adb reboot bootloader | 16:25 |
| popey | ok, get to there | 16:26 |
| ogra | wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20140223.1/trusty-preinstalled-recovery-armel+manta.img | 16:26 |
| popey | thats manta | 16:26 |
| popey | i am on flo | 16:26 |
| ogra | fastboot flash recovery trusty-preinstalled-recovery-armel+manta.img | 16:26 |
| popey | sorry, i said n10, i meant n7 :D | 16:26 |
| ogra | well, then the flo file :) | 16:26 |
| ogra | same steps | 16:26 |
| popey | ya | 16:26 |
| ogra | then reboot into the normal system ... | 16:26 |
| ogra | adb shell system-image-cli -c trusty-proposed -b 0 -v | 16:27 |
| popey | ahh | 16:27 |
| ogra | and just wait | 16:27 |
| popey | will try | 16:27 |
| popey | ta | 16:27 |
| ogra | that works with my rootstock'd flo ... | 16:27 |
| popey | yeah, mine was originally rootstocked, then mwcflashed | 16:27 |
| ogra | since mwc-flash uses rootstock i would expect it to work for you too | 16:27 |
| dougl | ogra, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install_UT_on_android4.4.2 are the instructions I followed | 16:27 |
| popey | cool | 16:27 |
| ogra | dougl, ah, yeah, that should be fine too ... though the images from there went official last night | 16:28 |
| ogra | (i would reinstall with ubuntu-device-flash --channel trusty-proposed -b) | 16:29 |
| dougl | ogra, me? | 16:30 |
| ogra | yes | 16:30 |
| ogra | to get the official image ... and to also get OTA upgrades | 16:30 |
| ogra | oh, wait | 16:30 |
| ogra | you made it writable anyway, that breaks OTA | 16:30 |
| dougl | I just want to facebook vnc ssh and irc from a tablet - is this possible... and gmail | 16:31 |
| ogra | there is no IRC app | 16:33 |
| ogra | and the terminal app is broken atm | 16:34 |
| ogra | (fix underway though) | 16:34 |
| ogra | VNC doesnt exist yet either | 16:34 |
| ogra | (facebook and gmail webapps are preinstalled) | 16:35 |
| ogra | though on the N10 they might behave odd dues to the immature sidestage | 16:36 |
| kaimast | hi all. is wpa enterprise (username+password) supported by ubuntu touch? seems to be broken here | 16:38 |
| kaimast | there is no window popping up to enter my credentials (unlike regular wpa) and it just doesn't connect | 16:38 |
| * ogra has only ever used WPA2 ... that works fine here | 16:40 | |
| kaimast | yeah that works. but my university has this enterprise wlan stuff i just cannot connect to | 16:40 |
| kaimast | it seems there is just no gui implemented for it... | 16:40 |
| craigcom | does ubuntu touch support voice & text via an interface w/ vendor android rild libs? | 16:43 |
| ogra | can you rephrase that ? | 16:45 |
| ogra | (yes we are using the android HAL including rild through ofono) | 16:45 |
| craigcom | sorry, i'm just learning... yes, that's the answer. | 16:47 |
| craigcom | are there cli commands for interacting w/ ofono? | 16:47 |
| ogra | there are the ofono-scripts | 16:48 |
| ogra | (somewhere in /usr/lib or /usr/share iirc) | 16:48 |
| kaimast | mmh is there a way to restart unity8 when it freezes or do i have to reboot the phone | 16:48 |
| craigcom | ok... i can check it out... i want a phone that just has fbcon and shell commands :) | 16:49 |
| craigcom | is it possible you think? | 16:49 |
| daker | kaimast: adb shell pkill unity8 | 16:50 |
| ogra | daker, uh, ugly | 16:50 |
| kaimast | that is what i thought | 16:50 |
| ogra | use upstart :P | 16:50 |
| kaimast | although i tried restart unity8 | 16:50 |
| ogra | stop/start as phablet user will work fine | 16:51 |
| ogra | (no idea about restart ... ) | 16:51 |
| daker | ogra: that's how i used to :) | 16:51 |
| dougl | ogra, thanks for the info :) | 16:55 |
| craigcom | ogra: found what i want i think... http://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/ofono/ofono.git/tree/test | 16:58 |
| ogra | craigcom, fbcon will need kernel changes, the ubuntu kernels use Mir which doesnt need or use fbcon anywhere | 16:58 |
| ogra | (mir hooks directly into the GPU via GLES) | 16:59 |
| ogra | (well, not the kernels use Mir ... indeed the serspace does, but the kernels dont have fbcon) | 17:01 |
| timppa | evening | 17:02 |
| timppa | any problems with calls in the latest image? | 17:02 |
| timppa | is it my nexus 4? Calls seems to connect and I can hear but other end does not hear anything | 17:05 |
| andreluizmg | hello? | 17:06 |
| kaimast | is it possible to copy stuff to the clipboard via adb shell? | 17:08 |
| andreluizmg | i found a Work in progress image to my phone variant its in xda but not listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Adding_your_image is itpossible to add link to it | 17:08 |
| popey | ogra: on my n7 I have NATIVE_ORIENTATION=landscape but it's in portait.. is that because I'm not using unity-demo? | 17:09 |
| ogra | popey, right | 17:10 |
| ogra | andreluizmg, sure, feel free | 17:11 |
| andreluizmg | ok | 17:13 |
| timppa | anyone? Might also network issues.. | 17:31 |
| timppa | +be | 17:31 |
| kaimast | did updates for the GNexus stop for real now? I am stuck on r188 as it seems :( | 17:36 |
| ogra | kaimast, for promoted images yes ... proposed are still built for a while | 17:36 |
| kaimast | ogra: okay. how do i change the channel? | 17:37 |
| ogra | system-image-cli --channel trusty-proposed | 17:37 |
| ogra | via adb | 17:37 |
| ogra | use -v if you want to see any outut | 17:37 |
| nik90 | ogra: can the above command also be used to switch from trusty-proposed to trusty? | 17:42 |
| ogra | nik90, that would need -b 0 | 17:43 |
| ogra | to force the default image id to 0 | 17:43 |
| nik90 | ogra: so I do system-image-cli -c trusty -v -b 0 | 17:43 |
| ogra | yep | 17:44 |
| nik90 | ogra: thnx | 17:44 |
| nik90 | hmm I am on #205 and the alarms I create are not listed in the datetime indicator nor do they show the snap notification when triggered | 17:52 |
| kaimast | mh so many random freezes on the GNexus. think i need a better device :( | 17:56 |
| ogra | nik90, alarms seem to only work when the device is on UTC ... timezones seem to break tham | 17:58 |
| popey | nik90: dunno if this is a known bug, but i had my phone on NY time (GMT-5) and it (rightly) says 1pm. I just changed the time in system settings and switched back to the clock. It shows (rightly) 6:01 in the middle, but the hands still show 1:01PM | 18:01 |
| popey | nik90: http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2014-02-23-180207.png | 18:02 |
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| nik90 | popey: your screenshot is black | 18:20 |
| popey | so i now discover | 18:20 |
| popey | but, now the digital clock says 6:20, but the hour hand is still on 1 | 18:20 |
| popey | i expect it would all sort out if I restart the app or the phone | 18:21 |
| nik90 | popey: ah...I need to think about why it does that | 18:21 |
| popey | want me to file a bug? | 18:21 |
| nik90 | popey: yes | 18:21 |
| popey | ok | 18:21 |
| nik90 | ogra: I previously had my device at UTC+1 (Amsterdam)...Is there a way to reset the timezone to UTC? I tried setting the location as London, but I still dont see the alarms.. | 18:23 |
| nik90 | ogra: will try restarting them | 18:24 |
| popey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1283787 | 18:24 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1283787 in Ubuntu Clock App "Analog clock doesn't update after tz change" [Undecided,New] | 18:24 |
| nik90 | ogra, popey: Setting timezone to London gets the alarm working :) | 18:27 |
| nik90 | ogra, popey: so let me get this right, I cannot use the alarm in the netherlands .... lol | 18:28 |
| nik90 | popey: so is it just the analog hour hand that doesn't update? Or the minute as well? | 18:41 |
| popey | only hours | 18:41 |
| timppa | regarding my question about call issues, I switched the sim card to my iPhone and everything works. It might be hw issues, hopefully not :/ | 18:56 |
| timppa | I did some calls for testing, after I reboot the phone I could call once and audio goes both ways but on second call and so on no sound from my end to other, far end sound reaches me | 18:58 |
| timppa | I also tried with hf set, no sound | 18:58 |
| timppa | I'm running r205 | 19:00 |
| timppa | I'll try to downgrade to r204 | 19:00 |
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| sjn | hi o/ | 19:33 |
| * sjn is looking for docs on how to make use of touchscreen features on my tablet pc w/13.10 | 19:34 | |
| sjn | any pointers? :) | 19:34 |
| mbalmer | dunno what you are after... but 13.10 works nice on my tablets | 19:35 |
| sjn | markovh: looking to enable tablet-y features | 19:36 |
| Ikubod | Hey guys, I know I could probably look this up, but I was just wondering generally how large the touch-preview download is. I'm at work and don't want to eat up our data cap too hard | 19:36 |
| sjn | markovh: running plain desktop version right now, and I'm looking for apps or config (or docs!) that are all touchy-feely and stuff :) | 19:38 |
| sjn | is there a ppa with useful apps, perhaps? | 19:39 |
| timppa | same thing with downgraded r204. One call after boot and it works, second call connects but no audio from me to other end | 19:44 |
| timppa | :( | 19:44 |
| popey | \o/ terminal fix in store | 19:58 |
| timppa | popey: great! :) | 20:02 |
| timppa | been waiting for it a while now | 20:02 |
| timppa | Just updated the radio, still the same | 20:30 |
| timppa | :/ | 20:30 |
| rsalveti | timppa: mako? | 20:46 |
| rsalveti | timppa: might be a regression from 4.4.2, can you open a bug for that? | 20:46 |
| timppa | rsalveti: yes, mako | 20:47 |
| rsalveti | timppa: please open a bug and assing that to me, also please add your syslog and logcat | 20:47 |
| timppa | rsalveti: what was the url for filing the bug? | 20:47 |
| rsalveti | timppa: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android/+filebug | 20:48 |
| timppa | rsalveti: What would you like be in the header? | 20:50 |
| rsalveti | timppa: just the issue you had, like voice call not working properly after the first call | 20:50 |
| timppa | rsalveti: ok | 20:52 |
| timppa | rsalveti: do you want the whole syslog? It's insanely long | 20:53 |
| rsalveti | timppa: hm, don't need to be everything, just from the moment you did the first call | 20:53 |
| rsalveti | any special message showing up all the time? | 20:54 |
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| PerfM | So like, what's up. How is everyone's day/night? | 21:59 |
| PerfM | seems like the discussion is a little low, that's okay. | 21:59 |
| PerfM | What do you do in here? Just sit here, idle. Waste your computer power? | 21:59 |
| PerfM | Up your electricity bills? | 21:59 |
| PerfM | Pay for idling in a channel where nothing happens? | 22:00 |
| PerfM | Okay, I mean, it's your life, so do what you want, Miley Cyrus. But it's not healthy. | 22:00 |
| PerfM | I mean, if you enter a channel that says "discussion" but there is no discussion, what exactly are you doing for yourself? | 22:01 |
| dhasenan | Personally, I'm trying to decide whether installing ubuntu touch on my ovation was a terrible idea or just a stupid idea. | 22:02 |
| dhasenan | And whether to try slogging through for another hour or just reinstalling cyanogenmod. | 22:02 |
| PerfM | Terrible and stupid go hand in hand. | 22:03 |
| PerfM | Next discussion, please. | 22:03 |
| dhasenan | Uh...how about that sports team? What a display! | 22:03 |
| PerfM | As of 2014, there are exactly 8000 known sports in the world and 3000 unknown sports in the world. | 22:06 |
| dhasenan | I assigned a high likelihood to the proposition that I would end up removing ubuntu touch and reinstalling cyanogenmod after a short period of further tinkering made me sufficiently frustrated. Since frustration isn't that fun, I skipped that part and went right to the reinstallation. | 22:06 |
| PerfM | Over 20,000 mens soccer team, and over.... | 22:06 |
| PerfM | you bring up sports and then don't even let anyone talk about it? | 22:06 |
| PerfM | What kind of selfish operation are you people running here | 22:06 |
| dhasenan | Multithreaded conversation. | 22:06 |
| PerfM | I don't think so. | 22:07 |
| dhasenan | Uh...short attention span? | 22:07 |
| PerfM | Next discussion. | 22:07 |
| dhasenan | I can't take this many demands in such a short period! | 22:08 |
| PerfM | lol | 22:08 |
| PerfM | who's my next victim | 22:08 |
| PerfM | I mean | 22:08 |
| PerfM | who else wants to uhhh, start a discussion | 22:08 |
| cjohnston | PerfM: lets remain on topic please | 22:08 |
| PerfM | I am on topic. I am having a discussion. | 22:09 |
| PerfM | Or at least, I was. | 22:09 |
| cjohnston | You aren't discussing Ubuntu Touch | 22:09 |
| PerfM | Ohhhhhhhh | 22:09 |
| PerfM | A discussion about ubuntu touch | 22:09 |
| PerfM | Okay | 22:09 |
| PerfM | The real discussion is, what is ubuntu touch, amirite | 22:09 |
| PerfM | cjohnston, I believe in order to have a good discussion both parties must participate. | 22:13 |
| PerfM | But we haven't all day. I mean people's bills depend on their idle status. If there are going to be so many idlers, we must give them information. | 22:13 |
| cjohnston | thanks k1l_ | 22:20 |
| k1l_ | no problem. if trolls come here and no op got an eye on the channel you can call for help in #ubuntu-ops | 22:21 |
| cjohnston | k1l_: I was trying to redirect :-) | 22:25 |
| matv1 | yeahh finaly the terminal osk is fixed!! thnx ppl that helps a lot | 22:30 |
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| cjohnston | matv1: is it? I saw the fix released on it, but haven't actually installed yet to see it | 22:32 |
| sergiusens | cjohnston, yes | 22:32 |
| sergiusens | uploaded a couple hours ago to the store | 22:32 |
| cjohnston | sweet | 22:33 |
| matv1 | cjohnston it certaily is. using it now | 22:33 |
| matv1 | Does anyone know if the SDK runs on Virtual Machines? | 22:34 |
| matv1 | anybody has experience with that? | 22:35 |
| popey | matv1: there was an issue in the past, it should work now though | 22:43 |
| matv1 | popey yes i asked about this i guess about half a year ago. at that time ppl advised against it because of some opengl issue | 22:45 |
| matv1 | i was hoping i does work now. Have you used it yourself? | 22:46 |
| popey | yes, that was the issue, I filed the bug upstream in qt and it's now fixed I believe | 22:46 |
| matv1 | great thank you. I am spinning a vm up right now so i guess ill find oyt soon enough | 22:52 |
| matv1 | out | 22:53 |
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| vthompson | mhall119_, popey, could we get the most recent Music app from trunk pushed to the store? There was a recent update ahayzen made to include search to CMAKE. Currently the app doesn't allow the user to use search from the app's HUD. | 23:33 |
| vthompson | I filed a bug stating that the music app needs to be pushed to the store: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1283852 | 23:43 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1283852 in Ubuntu Music App "After upgrading to r1.1.350 search is not usable from the HUD" [Undecided,New] | 23:43 |
| matv1 | popey if i might trouble you again at this late hour | 23:46 |
| matv1 | I still get a crash on qmlscene | 23:46 |
| popey | vthompson: works for me on 355 | 23:47 |
| matv1 | and logs saying opengl is still an issue | 23:47 |
| vthompson | popey, is 355 in the store though? | 23:47 |
| matv1 | did you say the bug was in qt? not in virtualbox ? | 23:47 |
| popey | matv1: bug it qt, there's an environment variable you can set to work around it, let me find it | 23:48 |
| popey | https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-32225 thats the upstream bug matv1 | 23:48 |
| popey | QSG_RENDER_LOOP=basic qmlscene app.qml | 23:48 |
| matv1 | great! thanks again | 23:48 |
| popey | np | 23:48 |
| popey | vthompson: No, 350 is, hmm | 23:48 |
| popey | vthompson: we tried last week to push a bunch of updates to the store | 23:49 |
| vthompson | popey, understandable. ahayzen fixed the search cmake issue shortly thereafter | 23:49 |
| popey | ah, yes, I see from trunk | 23:50 |
| popey | ok, will pounce on sergiusens or balloons tomorrow to get it bumped. | 23:50 |
| vthompson | popey, cool. Thank you! | 23:51 |
| popey | np | 23:51 |
| sergiusens | popey, bump want? | 23:52 |
| sergiusens | still here | 23:52 |
| popey | sergiusens: push an update to music-app to the store | 23:52 |
| sergiusens | sure | 23:53 |
| popey | got time now? | 23:53 |
| sergiusens | popey, yeah | 23:53 |
| vthompson | sergiusens, there was a fix to get search working shortly after you last pushed it | 23:53 |
| popey | ok, lets do it | 23:53 |
| vthompson | sergiusens, thanks! | 23:53 |
| sergiusens | np | 23:53 |
| ahayzen | vthompson, o/ | 23:54 |
| vthompson | popey, sergiusens, actually there is one MP that I wanted popey to look at to verify the first item in the queue being hidden | 23:54 |
| vthompson | ahayzen, \o | 23:54 |
| ahayzen | popey, https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/fix-1276170/+merge/207810 | 23:55 |
| * popey looks | 23:55 | |
| vthompson | ahayzen, you have faster fingers than I. :) | 23:55 |
| ahayzen | vthompson, lol or faster internet | 23:55 |
| vthompson | likely both | 23:55 |
| popey | ok, sergiusens hang fire till I test that pls | 23:55 |
| sergiusens | popey, already fired, but the bullets are free | 23:56 |
| sergiusens | will wait | 23:56 |
| popey | heh | 23:56 |
| ahayzen | vthompson, u seen my comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~mdspencer/music-app/improved-nomusic-msg/+merge/207795 | 23:56 |
| vthompson | ahayzen, just seeing it now. We'll have to broach that topic when we move away from Grilo | 23:57 |
| vthompson | ahayzen, Just wanted to give others a chance to review. I'll top approve now. | 23:58 |
| ahayzen | vthompson, the thing was at the moment it will work but this will 'break' it | 23:58 |
| ahayzen | vthompson, as it uses the onchanged rather than directly on the property like before | 23:58 |
| vthompson | ahayzen, right and it would have been broken with a move away from grilo even without Michael's change | 23:59 |
| ahayzen | vthompson, i think it would have worked...but it doesn't really matter anyway as long as we remember it when we move away from Grilo | 23:59 |
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