[00:01] ogra: thanks. [00:01] :) [00:02] ogra: watching unity8 autopilot test is fun =) it shows me so many things, i didn't know existed. [00:02] haha, yeah ... stuff we will probably never actually see [00:02] ogra: btw. about ofono-scripts, why did you seed them onto the image? and can I drop them? [00:02] they are important for debugging [00:03] talk to awe, he needs them a lot (and their output from users) [00:03] ogra: ... and they will stop working any day now. they are all in python2. [00:04] so they need to be ported ... they are pretty essential to collect data from ril [00:04] ogra: either awe or somebody else should invest into porting them to python3, or they need to be dropped temporary and installed on as-needed basis. [00:04] (and for various features for which we dont have a UI) [00:04] (as in activate read-write mode and install them) [00:05] ogra: i wonder if i could package a minimal python2 and those scripts into a click =))))) lolz [00:05] no, we cant really ask that from endusers [00:05] i'll bring it up next week [00:05] cant be to hard to port them [00:05] ack. i filed it as bug #1283571 [00:05] bug 1283571 in ofono (Ubuntu) "ofono-scripts must be ported to python3" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1283571 [00:06] bookmarked [00:06] ogra: i have most of autopilot tests run and pass under python3 (well, not regress on my devices) [00:06] cool [00:06] ogra: thus i'm hunting down remaining things that reverse pull in python2. [00:06] ogra: that ubuntu touch image did not work.. toshiba thrive tablet stay on for a sec and turns off right away.. [00:06] ogra: working on ports [00:06] axisys, nice [00:07] ogra: doing phablet-dev-bootstrap now [00:07] ogra: why is dbus-x11 seeded explicitely? [00:07] ogra: i couldn't find justification for that so far. [00:07] (and it predates current seeds history) [00:07] ogra: next step is Enabling a new device -> MANUAL says [00:08] dunno, i didnt seed it [00:08] ogra: From the individual device wiki page, grab the git repositories that are specific to your device [00:08] ogra: my device is not there obviously [00:08] ogra: ack. appears to be a copy paste from ubuntu-desktop to be honest. [00:08] xnox_: if it's the only one bringing python2, we can remove I guess [00:08] otherwise I'd keep it a bit more [00:08] xnox_, it wasnt ... the original seed ame from the OEM team [00:08] until it's ported, as it's quite useful for debuggin [00:08] debugging [00:09] there is definitely beed a reason to seed it initially [00:09] we have to find out if the reason still exists though === rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti [00:09] rsalveti: ok, thanks. It should be trivial to port to be honest. But i have no way to verify the port. Essentially execute each script.... and know what it suppose to do. [00:09] rsalveti: to be upstream friendly i guess they can be bilingual. [00:09] xnox_: right, I can bring this up with tony on monday [00:09] yeah [00:10] rsalveti: yes, please. If there is python porting monkey needed, foundations have resources to do that. But we'll need assistance in testing the port. [00:10] great, no worries [00:10] we're happy to help [00:10] rsalveti: by the way, did you test laney's gstreamer package split? [00:10] rsalveti: from the ppa. [00:11] rsalveti: cause i don't see that, that has landed yet. [00:11] * xnox_ goes to double check. [00:11] hasnt [00:11] everyone was super busy with MWC preparation [00:11] getting our images in shape and the 4.4 port out etc etc [00:12] ogra: i missed my invite... heck I wish I was in sunny spain right now =) [00:12] * popey trundles to bed.. [00:12] haha [00:12] any specific 4.4 testing to do? [00:12] * ogra is in sunny germany ... but could be warmer :) [00:13] * xnox_ is in flooded uk [00:13] popey, well, cdimage just spit the image out [00:14] will play in the morning === xnox_ is now known as xnox [00:14] system-image is still on it ... not sure it will get along :) [00:16] right. nn [00:16] sleep well [00:53] ogra: ok phablet-dev-bootstrap completed. [00:53] ogra: don't see any roomservice.xml file to edit [00:53] ogra: find .repo/ -type f -name 'roomservice.xml' came back with nothing [00:54] ogra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting -> Enabling a new device -> MANUAL is where I am === AlanBell_ is now known as AlanBell [01:05] xnox I read to the bottom of that page and managed to install ubuntu but my tablet still sucks any suggestions to get networking workking wifi ly? [01:08] does not look too fully functioonal to me... am I missing something?/ [01:10] so is it me or is this stuff junk? can it be used? can I google something? [01:12] what ever I try this ubuntu thing says check network setting... [01:13] xnox, when you said fully functional did you mean fully functional except for etc? [01:14] dougl: you do need wifi to install new apps... you are probably clicking on the apps that are not installed. [01:14] dougl: try opening calculator. [01:15] xnox, love to where is it I have a white screen says network error and nothing else shows === CEnnis91_ is now known as CEnnis91 [01:25] you need a blutooth Kb to use this? [01:30] well it aint no kde thats for sure... [01:30] dougl: i think you should watch videos / learn the concept first, such that you know the edges and know how to get around. [01:30] dougl: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/features [01:30] no keyboard required one pops up from the bottom when needed. [01:30] dougl: also which channel did you flash? [01:30] dougl: i'd recommend "trusty" channel. [01:32] need to see how to get ... trusty and not much sense in learning something that cant even log into facebook or gmail.... basic need alpha numeric input - if I need to watch a vidieo I'd be happy to which one do you recomend [01:36] dougl: do you have wifi setup? [01:36] dougl: cause you can't do things on the internet.... unless you have internet.... [01:36] dougl: pull down from the top right, find networking, tap on your wifi to connect. [01:37] if wifi didn't come up (sometimes happens on first flash) try rebooting twice, by holding down powerbutton for 5s+ [01:39] heh reminds me of windows 95 [01:40] everything is different and half the stuff does not work - lol [01:41] looks like more junk... [01:42] oops wrong window === CEnnis91_ is now known as Guest38215 [01:43] yeah - this is buggyer than win 95 tho... xnox you say this is supposed to work?/ [01:43] dougl: i don't know what you did, what you installed, and how you installed it.... [01:44] dougl: but yeah, it just works, and i use it as both my main tablet and phone. [01:44] =/ [01:45] xnox, I am in good company then... I don't know any of those things either - lol [01:45] I will plug away xnox... [01:47] I remember redhat 5.2 made me feel this way... I will form some reasonable questions and get back to you xnox :) [01:47] xnox, but thank you at least I see something familiar on my tablet... I was cringing at 4.4.2 what ever that is. [02:19] xnox how do you get a command prompt? [02:23] anyone ported ubuntu-touch on toshiba thrive tablet or know where to go next after running phablet-dev-bootstrap ? [02:24] I do not have a .repo/local_manifests/roomservice.xml to edit [03:13] hi! I just have a problem when I tried to flash with Ubuntu Touch my Google/LG nexus 4 with Android 4.4.2. I used both ubuntu-device-flash and phablet-flash but it didn't work. [03:14] i saw something that said "Secure boot enabled" in the "bootloader" screen on my nexus 4 === CaptainThrowback is now known as noobKakes === k1l is now known as Guest29058 === yofel is now known as Guest77623 [06:58] heya, im trying to flash my nex7 nakasi-kot49h, i'm in the boot loader (already unlocked), using the command "ubuntu-device-flash --channel devel --bootstrap" [06:59] my errors in cli are Device is |flo|, device flow not on server https://system=image.ubunto.com channel devel [07:02] hello every-body [07:03] I want a little help about making ubuntu touch as a career [07:04] Hm, yes, good luck with that [07:04] May I know how to start with it [07:05] I am good in core java and c [07:05] QML is new to me [07:06] is UBUNTU TOUCH a good choice for making a career for earning [07:06] amitrane04: I'm curious how you came to this conclusion [07:07] genii: about what ? === jackson is now known as Guest16889 === Guest16889 is now known as Noskcaj [07:09] Me from INDIA. There is nothing or can say zero market for ubuntu currently. so really confused about career making in ubuntu touch [07:13] Why so Silence in the room ? [07:16] hello [07:17] is there a nexus7 flo image available yet [07:18] anybody with ubuntu touch programming skill here [07:21] What difference between in Qt & QML === OutOfControl is now known as benonsoftware [09:00] when i copy my file from my pc to ubuntu touch on my samsung nexus i geting erro like Error writing file: -108: No such file or directory [09:10] hen i copy my file from my pc to ubuntu touch on my samsung nexus i geting erro like Error writing file: -108: No such file or directory [09:12] aditya369: Perhaps the destination folder needs to be created [09:50] Re all === AndChat144384 is now known as loredan [09:50] Ok [09:52] Salut [09:52] Este cineva? [09:53] I need suport === Guest77623 is now known as yofel === DavidDuffey is now known as dduffey === Borborygmi is now known as Casmo === everbrew_ is now known as everbrew === zenvoid_ is now known as zenvoid === popey_ is now known as popey === yofel_ is now known as Guest39928 === shadeslayer_ is now known as Guest58286 === FuLgOrE is now known as Guest55686 === Guest55686 is now known as FuLgOrE_ === Guest39928 is now known as yofel [13:01] does anyone here edit the Ubuntu Touch wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install [13:05] yes [13:05] (it's a wiki, anyone can) [13:05] yea i guess, but i dont have a login [13:06] why do you ask out of interest? [13:06] just wanted to share that for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, a --device maguro is needed [13:06] as it identifies itself as tuna [13:07] probably because the Koreans don't like the Japanese "maguro" and translated it into tuna... <_< [13:07] interesting [13:08] i did a partial mirror of the system-image to get the files I needed, then used --server http://localhost to install it, until i found out about the --device thing [13:08] (anyway, still no luck with booting into Ubuntu Touch on my Galaxy Nexus) [13:31] after pushing the trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip as /sdcard/autodeploy.zip, and rebooting the phone into recovery [13:32] how long does it take before it reboots again? [13:32] cause it kind of sucks to not see anything happening on the screen while im in the CWM-based recovery === ybon- is now known as ybon [13:53] anybody of the N5 / hammerhead guys here? [14:04] morning [14:28] will this run jre [14:42] So I installed ubuntu on my nexus... it does not seem to be ready for prime time... did I install the wrong version? [14:44] haha :-) Chris (from the mailing list) made the sound working on Nexus 5 / hammerhead :-D === achiang` is now known as achiang [14:45] rsalveti: PING PING PING! :-D === john-mca` is now known as john-mcaleely [14:45] trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz is what I installed on my nexus but it does not seem to be working correctly... apt-get upgrade is broken for one b ut other things too is that what I was supposed to install? [15:09] no keys to enter login information [15:11] and upgrade is broken... anyone have any suggestions? [15:14] dougl: sorry I cannot help you. But I would suggest to ask again tomorrow. It's very silent at the weekend... [15:17] FuLgOrE_, that is a help in itself - thanks am new to the channel... just thot no one but you loved me - lol, thanks for the info :) [15:17] dougl: I guess you will get support on Monday :) [15:18] FuLgOrE_, you run ubuntu touch? [15:18] yes, I do. but a inofficial N5 image [15:18] When does nexus 7 2013 get status page [15:20] basketballllll: what do you mean with "get status page"? [15:20] Like how all the other nexus devices have that spreadsheet [15:22] I could only guess. As far as I have red on the mailing list, they want to put the 4.4.2er images on cdimages, soon. but as fas as I know it will be supported in 14.04. [15:22] So I think you have to wait until the end of April [15:22] Ok and will it but stable [15:23] I'm not from Canonical, but I think so (if official supported...) [15:23] I can also only suggest to ask these questions tomorrow ;) [15:26] dougl what exactly are you seeing? what not working for you? [15:28] matv1 when I apt-get upgrade from something like ssh it is broken... [15:29] lxc-android-config is what is broken or not available. [15:31] and when I try to type in a text box no input method comes up [15:31] dougl okay I believe system-image updates are indeed broken atm [15:31] let me look at the phones mailing list hang on [15:31] matv1, thanks... hope I am not taking you away from anything [15:33] np dont worry about it. i was just reflashing myself [15:33] cool [15:33] thanks alot... knowing helps ::) [15:33] Why ask them tomorrow FuLgOrE [15:34] because more Canonical guys are available tomorrow [15:34] Why [15:34] yes i see on the ubuntu phone mailing list an issue for system update. as well as a Launchpad bug [15:34] https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg06481.html [15:35] but I thoought that was solved.. [15:35] * dougl is reading [15:35] does that sound like you dougl ? [15:35] basketballllll: I guess because they work from Monday to Friday ;) [15:38] matv1, no I don't think so === Zic is now known as Zic_ === Zic_ is now known as Zic__ === Zic__ is now known as Zic [15:39] dougl okay. so the image you mentioned earlier is the correct. [15:39] ok [15:40] what nexus are you using? [15:40] 10 [15:46] dougl so you can ssh into the device though? [15:47] matv1, I can adb shell into it but no sshd server running... cant figer that one out [15:50] but you have been able to install it? that didnt give any errors? [15:50] no [15:51] err... yes instsall no errors [15:51] dougl, dist-upgrade is not supported [15:51] (it cant work with the design the images use) [15:51] no just upgrade [15:51] same [15:52] ? [15:52] you can install single packages, but upgrade or dist-upgrade wont work [15:52] (by design) [15:52] FuLgOrE_, attach your working ucm files to a bug so we can upload them [15:53] ogra, ok - works for me... do you know how to start sshd cuz that abd thing i have to use that usb cable right? [15:53] adb shell start ssh [15:53] ah, sure. but they are from Chris, not from me. Anyway I will upload [15:53] from a PC [15:53] (with USb connected) [15:53] ssh is preinstalled by disabled by default [15:55] ogra, k got it ... thanks - one more thing - how do you start ssh automatically when the device powers up [15:56] if you have your image writable (which i assume you do when installing debs) add "start ssh" to /etc/rc.local [15:58] ogra, you spoil me = thank you, when I ssh in what do I use for a login ... phablet is the password [15:58] and the user [15:58] thanks [16:03] ogra: any suggestions what I should do with the bug? The fix doesn't fix it completely. Sound works just basic and sometimes crashes, anyway the basics work! [16:03] ogra, do you know how to save the file just prompts for file name and then hitting enter does nothing [16:03] FuLgOrE_, well, mention that when attaching the files [16:03] better than nothing [16:03] ogra: should I select "this attachement contains a solution (patch) for this bug? [16:03] sure [16:03] I'm happy that the phone is a phone now ;-) [16:04] dougl, hwo do you edit ? vi ? ... esc->:wq [16:04] FuLgOrE_, hmm, i never select anything there :) [16:05] ogra, nano but it does not work like it has for the past 10 years [16:06] no, nano doesnt work via adb [16:06] can anyone tell me if the SDK will run on VM's ? I believe there once was an Issue with opengl.. [16:06] adb mangles some shell characters [16:06] lol [16:07] my chinese internet connection is the worst piece of crap -.- [16:08] ssh does not work [16:08] ssh does not work fast - lol [16:09] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android/+bug/1276901 [16:09] Ubuntu bug 1276901 in alsa-lib (Ubuntu) "alsa-lib: UCM - hammerhead sound doesn't work" [High,Confirmed] [16:10] thx [16:10] :) [16:10] eill take care to land that next week [16:10] *will [16:12] thx :) sounds good. I provided Chris all available settings from the original mixer_path.xml modified to match the UCM config. maybe he will improve something. [16:12] ogra: I guess somebody needs to put it in the alsa-lib as a patch [16:13] ssh supposed to work? [16:13] FuLgOrE_, yes, thats what i will do [16:13] dougl, yes [16:13] dougl: it works fine on my N5 [16:14] ogra: :) [16:14] whoah you guys fixed sound on n5? [16:14] BYEBYE ANDROID [16:14] heh [16:14] works like crap here ssh ing in from my 14.04 to phablet and seems to just hang [16:14] what device is that ? [16:15] i use it successfully on N4 and N7 (2013) [16:15] from notebook to N10 [16:15] cwayne: Chris did it. The basic works. Do you have access to the mailing list? If yes, take a look. [16:15] dougl, any your wlan is fine otherwise ? [16:16] dougl: On my N5 it works. On a wifi at my workplace it is really slow, at home it's fast [16:17] cwayne: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android/+bug/1276901 ---- just download the msm8........tar.gz and follow the instruction. ;-) [16:17] Ubuntu bug 1276901 in alsa-lib (Ubuntu) "alsa-lib: UCM - hammerhead sound doesn't work" [High,Confirmed] [16:21] ogra, yep everything works ssh into 12.04 desktop and everything works nano save edit you know functional stuff... this tablet nothing I have tried works... is it ready for prime time? [16:21] N10 ? [16:21] yes [16:22] doesnt really get much Qa [16:22] *QA [16:22] ? [16:22] it should become better before release, but currently there isnt much testing of it [16:23] oh - did not realize... xnox said it was fully functional since 13.10 and gave me a link for instructions to install - this is what I got... ogra this is not a usable system is it? [16:24] good night! bye [16:24] well, my N10 here is kind of usable but i dont do much with it (focus is on N7 and N4 atm) [16:25] ogra: any idea how I can get my n10 back to working state? [16:25] did you just follow the install wiki (from the channel topic) ? [16:25] popey, what does it do atm ? [16:25] boots to the mwc image [16:25] but flashing via ubuntu-devica thing fails [16:25] and thats not a working state ? [16:25] ah [16:25] adb reboot bootloader [16:26] ok, get to there [16:26] wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20140223.1/trusty-preinstalled-recovery-armel+manta.img [16:26] thats manta [16:26] i am on flo [16:26] fastboot flash recovery trusty-preinstalled-recovery-armel+manta.img [16:26] sorry, i said n10, i meant n7 :D [16:26] well, then the flo file :) [16:26] same steps [16:26] ya [16:26] then reboot into the normal system ... [16:27] adb shell system-image-cli -c trusty-proposed -b 0 -v [16:27] ahh [16:27] and just wait [16:27] will try [16:27] ta [16:27] that works with my rootstock'd flo ... [16:27] yeah, mine was originally rootstocked, then mwcflashed [16:27] since mwc-flash uses rootstock i would expect it to work for you too [16:27] ogra, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install_UT_on_android4.4.2 are the instructions I followed [16:27] cool [16:28] dougl, ah, yeah, that should be fine too ... though the images from there went official last night [16:29] (i would reinstall with ubuntu-device-flash --channel trusty-proposed -b) [16:30] ogra, me? [16:30] yes [16:30] to get the official image ... and to also get OTA upgrades [16:30] oh, wait [16:30] you made it writable anyway, that breaks OTA [16:31] I just want to facebook vnc ssh and irc from a tablet - is this possible... and gmail [16:33] there is no IRC app [16:34] and the terminal app is broken atm [16:34] (fix underway though) [16:34] VNC doesnt exist yet either [16:35] (facebook and gmail webapps are preinstalled) [16:36] though on the N10 they might behave odd dues to the immature sidestage [16:38] hi all. is wpa enterprise (username+password) supported by ubuntu touch? seems to be broken here [16:38] there is no window popping up to enter my credentials (unlike regular wpa) and it just doesn't connect [16:40] * ogra has only ever used WPA2 ... that works fine here [16:40] yeah that works. but my university has this enterprise wlan stuff i just cannot connect to [16:40] it seems there is just no gui implemented for it... [16:43] does ubuntu touch support voice & text via an interface w/ vendor android rild libs? [16:45] can you rephrase that ? [16:45] (yes we are using the android HAL including rild through ofono) [16:47] sorry, i'm just learning... yes, that's the answer. [16:47] are there cli commands for interacting w/ ofono? [16:48] there are the ofono-scripts [16:48] (somewhere in /usr/lib or /usr/share iirc) [16:48] mmh is there a way to restart unity8 when it freezes or do i have to reboot the phone [16:49] ok... i can check it out... i want a phone that just has fbcon and shell commands :) [16:49] is it possible you think? [16:50] kaimast: adb shell pkill unity8 [16:50] daker, uh, ugly [16:50] that is what i thought [16:50] use upstart :P [16:50] although i tried restart unity8 [16:51] stop/start as phablet user will work fine [16:51] (no idea about restart ... ) [16:51] ogra: that's how i used to :) [16:55] ogra, thanks for the info :) [16:58] ogra: found what i want i think... http://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/ofono/ofono.git/tree/test [16:58] craigcom, fbcon will need kernel changes, the ubuntu kernels use Mir which doesnt need or use fbcon anywhere [16:59] (mir hooks directly into the GPU via GLES) [17:01] (well, not the kernels use Mir ... indeed the serspace does, but the kernels dont have fbcon) [17:02] evening [17:02] any problems with calls in the latest image? [17:05] is it my nexus 4? Calls seems to connect and I can hear but other end does not hear anything [17:06] hello? [17:08] is it possible to copy stuff to the clipboard via adb shell? [17:08] i found a Work in progress image to my phone variant its in xda but not listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Adding_your_image is itpossible to add link to it [17:09] ogra: on my n7 I have NATIVE_ORIENTATION=landscape but it's in portait.. is that because I'm not using unity-demo? [17:10] popey, right [17:11] andreluizmg, sure, feel free [17:13] ok [17:31] anyone? Might also network issues.. [17:31] +be [17:36] did updates for the GNexus stop for real now? I am stuck on r188 as it seems :( [17:36] kaimast, for promoted images yes ... proposed are still built for a while [17:37] ogra: okay. how do i change the channel? [17:37] system-image-cli --channel trusty-proposed [17:37] via adb [17:37] use -v if you want to see any outut [17:42] ogra: can the above command also be used to switch from trusty-proposed to trusty? [17:43] nik90, that would need -b 0 [17:43] to force the default image id to 0 [17:43] ogra: so I do system-image-cli -c trusty -v -b 0 [17:44] yep [17:44] ogra: thnx [17:52] hmm I am on #205 and the alarms I create are not listed in the datetime indicator nor do they show the snap notification when triggered [17:56] mh so many random freezes on the GNexus. think i need a better device :( [17:58] nik90, alarms seem to only work when the device is on UTC ... timezones seem to break tham [18:01] nik90: dunno if this is a known bug, but i had my phone on NY time (GMT-5) and it (rightly) says 1pm. I just changed the time in system settings and switched back to the clock. It shows (rightly) 6:01 in the middle, but the hands still show 1:01PM [18:02] nik90: http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2014-02-23-180207.png === lan3y is now known as Laneyu === Laneyu is now known as Laney [18:20] popey: your screenshot is black [18:20] so i now discover [18:20] but, now the digital clock says 6:20, but the hour hand is still on 1 [18:21] i expect it would all sort out if I restart the app or the phone [18:21] popey: ah...I need to think about why it does that [18:21] want me to file a bug? [18:21] popey: yes [18:21] ok [18:23] ogra: I previously had my device at UTC+1 (Amsterdam)...Is there a way to reset the timezone to UTC? I tried setting the location as London, but I still dont see the alarms.. [18:24] ogra: will try restarting them [18:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1283787 [18:24] Ubuntu bug 1283787 in Ubuntu Clock App "Analog clock doesn't update after tz change" [Undecided,New] [18:27] ogra, popey: Setting timezone to London gets the alarm working :) [18:28] ogra, popey: so let me get this right, I cannot use the alarm in the netherlands .... lol [18:41] popey: so is it just the analog hour hand that doesn't update? Or the minute as well? [18:41] only hours [18:56] regarding my question about call issues, I switched the sim card to my iPhone and everything works. It might be hw issues, hopefully not :/ [18:58] I did some calls for testing, after I reboot the phone I could call once and audio goes both ways but on second call and so on no sound from my end to other, far end sound reaches me [18:58] I also tried with hf set, no sound [19:00] I'm running r205 [19:00] I'll try to downgrade to r204 === Tassadar_ is now known as Tassadar === Guest38215 is now known as CEnnis91 [19:33] hi o/ [19:34] * sjn is looking for docs on how to make use of touchscreen features on my tablet pc w/13.10 [19:34] any pointers? :) [19:35] dunno what you are after... but 13.10 works nice on my tablets [19:36] markovh: looking to enable tablet-y features [19:36] Hey guys, I know I could probably look this up, but I was just wondering generally how large the touch-preview download is. I'm at work and don't want to eat up our data cap too hard [19:38] markovh: running plain desktop version right now, and I'm looking for apps or config (or docs!) that are all touchy-feely and stuff :) [19:39] is there a ppa with useful apps, perhaps? [19:44] same thing with downgraded r204. One call after boot and it works, second call connects but no audio from me to other end [19:44] :( [19:58] \o/ terminal fix in store [20:02] popey: great! :) [20:02] been waiting for it a while now [20:30] Just updated the radio, still the same [20:30] :/ [20:46] timppa: mako? [20:46] timppa: might be a regression from 4.4.2, can you open a bug for that? [20:47] rsalveti: yes, mako [20:47] timppa: please open a bug and assing that to me, also please add your syslog and logcat [20:47] rsalveti: what was the url for filing the bug? [20:48] timppa: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android/+filebug [20:50] rsalveti: What would you like be in the header? [20:50] timppa: just the issue you had, like voice call not working properly after the first call [20:52] rsalveti: ok [20:53] rsalveti: do you want the whole syslog? It's insanely long [20:53] timppa: hm, don't need to be everything, just from the moment you did the first call [20:54] any special message showing up all the time? === timppa is now known as timppa|away === ev_ is now known as ev [21:59] So like, what's up. How is everyone's day/night? [21:59] seems like the discussion is a little low, that's okay. [21:59] What do you do in here? Just sit here, idle. Waste your computer power? [21:59] Up your electricity bills? [22:00] Pay for idling in a channel where nothing happens? [22:00] Okay, I mean, it's your life, so do what you want, Miley Cyrus. But it's not healthy. [22:01] I mean, if you enter a channel that says "discussion" but there is no discussion, what exactly are you doing for yourself? [22:02] Personally, I'm trying to decide whether installing ubuntu touch on my ovation was a terrible idea or just a stupid idea. [22:02] And whether to try slogging through for another hour or just reinstalling cyanogenmod. [22:03] Terrible and stupid go hand in hand. [22:03] Next discussion, please. [22:03] Uh...how about that sports team? What a display! [22:06] As of 2014, there are exactly 8000 known sports in the world and 3000 unknown sports in the world. [22:06] I assigned a high likelihood to the proposition that I would end up removing ubuntu touch and reinstalling cyanogenmod after a short period of further tinkering made me sufficiently frustrated. Since frustration isn't that fun, I skipped that part and went right to the reinstallation. [22:06] Over 20,000 mens soccer team, and over.... [22:06] you bring up sports and then don't even let anyone talk about it? [22:06] What kind of selfish operation are you people running here [22:06] Multithreaded conversation. [22:07] I don't think so. [22:07] Uh...short attention span? [22:07] Next discussion. [22:08] I can't take this many demands in such a short period! [22:08] lol [22:08] who's my next victim [22:08] I mean [22:08] who else wants to uhhh, start a discussion [22:08] PerfM: lets remain on topic please [22:09] I am on topic. I am having a discussion. [22:09] Or at least, I was. [22:09] You aren't discussing Ubuntu Touch [22:09] Ohhhhhhhh [22:09] A discussion about ubuntu touch [22:09] Okay [22:09] The real discussion is, what is ubuntu touch, amirite [22:13] cjohnston, I believe in order to have a good discussion both parties must participate. [22:13] But we haven't all day. I mean people's bills depend on their idle status. If there are going to be so many idlers, we must give them information. [22:20] thanks k1l_ [22:21] no problem. if trolls come here and no op got an eye on the channel you can call for help in #ubuntu-ops [22:25] k1l_: I was trying to redirect :-) [22:30] yeahh finaly the terminal osk is fixed!! thnx ppl that helps a lot === asac` is now known as asac [22:32] matv1: is it? I saw the fix released on it, but haven't actually installed yet to see it [22:32] cjohnston, yes [22:32] uploaded a couple hours ago to the store [22:33] sweet [22:33] cjohnston it certaily is. using it now [22:34] Does anyone know if the SDK runs on Virtual Machines? [22:35] anybody has experience with that? [22:43] matv1: there was an issue in the past, it should work now though [22:45] popey yes i asked about this i guess about half a year ago. at that time ppl advised against it because of some opengl issue [22:46] i was hoping i does work now. Have you used it yourself? [22:46] yes, that was the issue, I filed the bug upstream in qt and it's now fixed I believe [22:52] great thank you. I am spinning a vm up right now so i guess ill find oyt soon enough [22:53] out === nik90_ is now known as nik90 [23:33] mhall119_, popey, could we get the most recent Music app from trunk pushed to the store? There was a recent update ahayzen made to include search to CMAKE. Currently the app doesn't allow the user to use search from the app's HUD. [23:43] I filed a bug stating that the music app needs to be pushed to the store: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1283852 [23:43] Ubuntu bug 1283852 in Ubuntu Music App "After upgrading to r1.1.350 search is not usable from the HUD" [Undecided,New] [23:46] popey if i might trouble you again at this late hour [23:46] I still get a crash on qmlscene [23:47] vthompson: works for me on 355 [23:47] and logs saying opengl is still an issue [23:47] popey, is 355 in the store though? [23:47] did you say the bug was in qt? not in virtualbox ? [23:48] matv1: bug it qt, there's an environment variable you can set to work around it, let me find it [23:48] https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-32225 thats the upstream bug matv1 [23:48] QSG_RENDER_LOOP=basic qmlscene app.qml [23:48] great! thanks again [23:48] np [23:48] vthompson: No, 350 is, hmm [23:49] vthompson: we tried last week to push a bunch of updates to the store [23:49] popey, understandable. ahayzen fixed the search cmake issue shortly thereafter [23:50] ah, yes, I see from trunk [23:50] ok, will pounce on sergiusens or balloons tomorrow to get it bumped. [23:51] popey, cool. Thank you! [23:51] np [23:52] popey, bump want? [23:52] still here [23:52] sergiusens: push an update to music-app to the store [23:53] sure [23:53] got time now? [23:53] popey, yeah [23:53] sergiusens, there was a fix to get search working shortly after you last pushed it [23:53] ok, lets do it [23:53] sergiusens, thanks! [23:53] np [23:54] vthompson, o/ [23:54] popey, sergiusens, actually there is one MP that I wanted popey to look at to verify the first item in the queue being hidden [23:54] ahayzen, \o [23:55] popey, https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/fix-1276170/+merge/207810 [23:55] * popey looks [23:55] ahayzen, you have faster fingers than I. :) [23:55] vthompson, lol or faster internet [23:55] likely both [23:55] ok, sergiusens hang fire till I test that pls [23:56] popey, already fired, but the bullets are free [23:56] will wait [23:56] heh [23:56] vthompson, u seen my comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~mdspencer/music-app/improved-nomusic-msg/+merge/207795 [23:57] ahayzen, just seeing it now. We'll have to broach that topic when we move away from Grilo [23:58] ahayzen, Just wanted to give others a chance to review. I'll top approve now. [23:58] vthompson, the thing was at the moment it will work but this will 'break' it [23:58] vthompson, as it uses the onchanged rather than directly on the property like before [23:59] ahayzen, right and it would have been broken with a move away from grilo even without Michael's change [23:59] vthompson, i think it would have worked...but it doesn't really matter anyway as long as we remember it when we move away from Grilo