[03:19] <brousch> There's a chrome app irc client now
[03:21] <brousch> Chromebook is a complete OS'
[03:24] <rick_h> brousch: heh
[03:36] <Azeban> Hello hello hello. and good evening
[03:44] <brousch> yo
[03:44] <Azeban> how are you brousch ?
[03:45] <brousch> well
[03:57] <Azeban> what are you in michigan?
[04:03] <greg-g> yes.
[04:04] <Azeban> where*
[04:31] <cmaloney> hello
[05:35] <rick_h> party over
[15:52] <cmaloney> Good morning
[15:52] <brousch> yessir
[15:53] <rick_h> sucky sucky
[15:53] <brousch> $5
[15:54] <brousch> Chromebooking again today
[15:55] <rick_h> woot woot
[15:59] <brousch> I need another Acer C720 Haswell 4G to really run Crouton though
[16:02] <rick_h> grrr this darn laptop keeps sleeping, killing network, and then taking forever to reconnect
[16:09] <brousch> Upgrade to chromebook
[16:11] <rick_h> hah yea, I do love the pixel but I can't use it for everything I need so too much $$ for too little gain
[16:20] <brousch> I wish I had a pixel
[16:20] <brousch> Price is crazy
[16:22] <rick_h> yea, and they announced EOL times for those things and it's only in 2015
[17:08] <Azeban> Hello hello hello.
[17:08] <Azeban> good afternoon
[17:08] <waf> yo
[17:10] <Azeban> how are you waf
[17:12] <waf> pretty good, camping out in a coffee shop getting some work done. you?
[17:13] <rick_h> waf: cross your fingers for me. Trying to get my ubuntu dual boot setup
[17:16] <waf> good luck! hopefully it "just works" :)
[17:16] <rick_h> lol
[17:23] <Azeban> good luck :)
[17:24] <Azeban> I'm camping at the home office.
[17:26] <brousch> Dual booting with what?
[17:28] <waf> hahaha, yes, rick_h. what might that other OS be?
[17:28] <rick_h> hmmm, well it gave me the option to install along side osx, but no wifi drivers ootb :(
[17:28] <rick_h> brousch: osx on an 11" air
[17:28] <Azeban> where are you guys in michigan?
[17:29] <rick_h> brousch: we're working on making safari a first class Juju gui browser and making juju quickstart work on osx so I needed some osx hardware
[17:29] <rick_h> Azeban: all over. brousch is west side, some of us up and down the I-75 cooridoor north of detroit
[17:30] <waf> ok. now all of us are from southeastern michigan.
[17:30] <rick_h> lol
[17:30] <rick_h> mathomastech: isn't in MI :P
[17:30] <rick_h> or greg-g
[17:30] <waf> d'oh. neither is greg-g.
[17:30] <Azeban> I'm in Saugatuck
[17:31] <Azeban> on lake michigan
[17:31] <rick_h> Azeban: nice, brousch is out GR way somewhere. Couple of guys are that way
[17:31] <rick_h> how's the frozen lake doing out there?
[17:33] <rick_h> woot! in ubuntu on the air with wifi working
[17:33]  * rick_h restarts to make sure osx still works
[17:34] <waf> awesome! how did it set it up? via grub?
[17:34] <Azeban> still very much frozen :)
[17:34] <rick_h> refitn
[17:34] <rick_h> that and usb-creator'd the mac iso
[17:35] <Azeban> im right on the shore
[17:35] <Azeban> the lake is still completely frozen
[17:35] <rick_h> nice Azeban
[17:35] <rick_h> oh I'm sure it will be for a bit
[17:35] <rick_h> this week there's highs like '14' around here
[17:35] <waf> refitn? is that a "refind" typo?
[17:35] <Azeban> as is the kalamazoo river
[17:35] <rick_h> imagine the wind blowing over that lake is cold
[17:35] <rick_h> waf: so there was refit boot loader manager
[17:35] <rick_h> somone took it up and made it refitn
[17:35] <rick_h> (n = next ?)
[17:35] <Azeban> we also have around 3000 lf of the frontage of the kalamazoo river
[17:36] <waf> and you're sure you don't mean refind?
[17:36]  * waf googles
[17:36] <Azeban> its still completely frozen
[17:36] <rick_h> :)
[17:36] <rick_h> waf: oh... umm yea that
[17:36] <rick_h> http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[17:37] <waf> yeah, ok, cool. that's what i use
[17:37] <waf> i really should toss that guy some money. amazing documentation
[17:38] <rick_h> ooh, you can make the launcher smaller than 32 in trusty now
[17:40] <rick_h> man it's so nice to be back in linux land
[17:44] <gamerchick02> rick_h_ you can? that's 14.04, right?
[17:44] <rick_h> gamerchick02: yea, let me take it down to 16
[17:45] <gamerchick02> sweetness
[17:45] <gamerchick02> 32 is a good size tho
[17:45] <gamerchick02> the size it is after install is MEGA huge
[17:45] <rick_h> always too big still imo
[17:45] <gamerchick02> i'm like geez
[17:45] <gamerchick02> depends on the size of your monitor!
[17:46] <gamerchick02> like if i were to install ubuntu to my macbook(!) i'd want a smaller launcher.
[17:47] <rick_h> sweet, time to copy over my Makefile and start the "make install install-python" process :)
[17:48] <rick_h> man, sitting this thing side by side with my 230 it really is a lot smaller
[17:48] <rick_h> but damn the x230 has such a nicer keyboard
[17:48] <rick_h> real feedback, so much softer on the mac
[17:53] <gamerchick02> nice
[17:54] <gamerchick02> which mac do you have?
[17:54] <gamerchick02> air
[17:54] <gamerchick02> derp
[17:54] <gamerchick02> i should read more
[17:55] <rick_h> this makes me said http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/02/netflix-is-paying-comcast-for-direct-connection-to-network-wsj-reports/
[17:55] <greg-g> rick_h: wait, why'd you get the air if you're install Ubuntu on it?
[17:55] <rick_h> I guess it's how network operations
[17:55] <rick_h> greg-g: dual booting. Need osx to QA mac stuff works
[17:55] <greg-g> gotcha
[17:55] <greg-g> I was worried
[17:55] <rick_h> greg-g: but want to try it out as an ubuntu platform as well. I'm losing faith in lenovo
[17:56] <greg-g> ...
[17:56] <Azeban> im very pleased with my macbook
[17:56] <rick_h> since I have to have an OSX machine I got a refurb air to try out.
[17:56] <Azeban> its a pleasure to use.
[17:56] <rick_h> if I don't like it, well it's just for QA
[17:56] <rick_h> if I do...then Nov is my 3yr laptop refresh with Canonical so...
[17:57] <rick_h> greg-g: I'm a bit bummed with the x240 changes, the lack of a decent carbon. I will look at the xps13 DE but not a dell fan and makes me nervous
[17:57] <Azeban> I have a 2.3ghz qud i7
[17:58] <greg-g> xps is junk
[17:58] <Azeban> and it has 16gb of 16000mhz memory
[17:58] <rick_h> greg-g: yea, I know you had issues with it and there are a couple of co-workers that like it
[17:58] <rick_h> but not sure they know better
[17:58] <greg-g> :)
[17:58] <greg-g> if you like the air you'll like the xps ;)
[17:58] <greg-g> xps: more plasticy version of the air
[17:58] <rick_h> well, already bummed on the keyboard. Trackpad :( but the x240 got rid of the buttons
[17:58] <Azeban> and 2gb gddr5 memory
[17:59] <Azeban> and the geforce gt 750M
[17:59] <rick_h> greg-g: the display seems nice, that's the biggest gripe with my 230
[17:59] <gamerchick02> i love my Air.
[17:59] <gamerchick02> and the display is really nice
[17:59] <rick_h> I'm so mad they only made the HD screen on the 240 for touch
[17:59] <Azeban> yes
[17:59] <Azeban> the retina display is great
[17:59] <greg-g> oh, didn't realize re hd and touch
[17:59] <greg-g> bah
[17:59] <Azeban> i dont know if the air and the pro have the same display
[17:59]  * greg-g is a curmuddgeon
[17:59] <rick_h> greg-g: yea, that and that HD finally came out 5mo after the 240...
[18:00] <gamerchick02> question: has anyone modded an HP11 chromebook for a larger SSD, more RAM, and Ubuntu?
[18:00] <rick_h> so yea, I'll be that annoying guy trying to try out everyone's laptops this year
[18:00] <gamerchick02> lol rick_h_
[18:00] <rick_h> gamerchick02: check with brousch when he's around. He's the chromebook guy in the group
[18:01] <gamerchick02> danke
[18:01] <gamerchick02> i don't even know if i can get the darn thing open
[18:01] <gamerchick02> no screws
[18:02] <rick_h> heh
[18:02] <gamerchick02> because an ubuntu portable box would be nice
[18:02] <gamerchick02> and it was cheap so yeah.
[18:05] <waf> i think mrgoodcat also runs a chromebook
[18:05] <rick_h> oh yea, true
[18:07] <gamerchick02> sweet
[18:07] <gamerchick02> thanks
[18:12] <Azeban> what do you guys think of the AppleCare plan?
[18:14] <gamerchick02> i don't have it on either of my devices
[18:14] <gamerchick02> i have the 11" Air and an ipod touch
[18:14] <gamerchick02> no issues so far and no applecare
[18:15] <gamerchick02> i still need to take my air in for it's hard drive swap because of the recall
[18:53] <cmaloney> afternoon
[18:55] <gamerchick02> afternoon cmaloney
[18:55] <gamerchick02> how's it going?
[18:55] <cmaloney> Going OK. I think I have a cold.
[18:56] <cmaloney> Took some allergy medicine and it seems to be ineffective
[18:57] <gamerchick02> ugh
[18:57] <gamerchick02> i'm actually feeling human again
[18:57] <gamerchick02> i didn't WAKE UP til 9:45 this morning. (i'm a morning person so this is news)
[21:13] <rick_h> hah, google for things and find questions from jrwren
[21:36] <gamerchick02> hah
[22:48] <cmaloney> Call for Talks for Penguicon is coming to a close soon.