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mattwj2002you can have a progress bar!00:00
netai have --progress00:00
mattwj2002cool00:00
Bray90820So For some reason I can't seem to connect to my windows network00:00
netawill rsynd also delete ?00:00
netaor just copy ?00:01
mattwj2002neta honestly I don't know much about it00:01
mattwj2002have you tried this though?00:01
mattwj2002man rsync00:01
netayea not sure if it removed didnt check the files i had there :-)00:02
netayea reading it now00:02
Sonderbladeis radeon hd 4200 still supported by the fglrx driver?00:02
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daftykinsdon't think so00:02
mattwj2002I installed xubuntu on my new laptop00:02
mattwj2002wireless issue00:02
mattwj2002but otherwise works well00:02
mattwj2002the touch screen even works! :D00:03
clackamasHi.00:03
mattwj2002hi clackamas00:03
clackamasHopefully this is an appropriate channel for ubuntu/xen general questions?00:04
mattwj2002server issue?00:04
mattwj2002if so, you may want to try #ubuntu-server?00:04
clackamasNO, more suggetions on system setup/design.00:04
netaah !! need to add --delete00:05
mattwj2002ask away :)00:05
clackamasJust semi-blindly build an FX 8320 for the purpose of setting a Xen machine for file system development.00:05
clackamasWhile I had previously gotten kvm to work for a work related project, I decided to go with Xen for various reasons.00:06
netaNow it workd !00:06
clackamasAnyway, I was trying to setup console based system using Ubuntu 3.10.00:06
mattwj2002clackamas: what are your system specs?00:06
clackamasServer.00:06
antonio999999999ciao00:07
clackamasMatty: FX-8320, 16GB Ram, EVGA Nvida 610, 2x 120GB Kingston SSD and an Asus mobo w/970 chip set.00:07
mattwj2002sound good00:07
mattwj2002processor?00:08
clackamasAMX FX-832000:08
clackamaserr AMD00:08
mattwj2002oh00:08
mattwj2002let me look up the specs on that pchi00:08
clackamasWell, i Have gotten Xen to boot the debia installer.00:08
clackamasAs a test.00:08
daftykinsXen VMs tended to be best installed via debootstrap scripts00:09
clackamasI having been trying to setup VGA pass through so I can install 13.10 desktop in an HVM.00:09
clackamasYEah, I am learning the boot strap scripts.00:09
mattwj20028 threads?00:09
mattwj2002nice00:09
clackamasYeah.00:09
mattwj2002sounds good for virtualization00:10
clackamasI did research everything but the VIdeo Card.00:10
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mattwj2002cool00:10
clackamasI currently installed the minimum install + Xen using Ubuntu 13.10 Server.00:10
mattwj2002nice00:11
mattwj2002what are you doing as far as the hard drives?00:11
mattwj2002mirroring?00:11
clackamasBTW: with my mobo, I had to use a PS2 keyboard to do the install; the USB keyboard didn't work.00:11
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clackamasJust if anyone asks :)  The usb keyboard worked for 13.10 Desktop and I haven't tracked down what th edriver issue is.00:11
clackamasI am as far as setting a PV instance using the instructions found on various web sites.00:12
Beldarclackamas, This is support do you have an issue, rather than the history of your work installing?00:12
mattwj2002clackamas: I have been having a horrible time with my new laptop's wireless00:12
clackamasSo, I got it to boot initrd.00:12
mattwj2002Beldar: is there a #ubuntu-social?00:12
clackamasWell, my support question is this:00:13
mattwj2002oh wait #ubuntu-offtopic I guess00:13
clackamasI don't want to tinker with all the scripts.00:14
Beldar!enter | clackamas00:14
clackamasIf I install 13.10 Desktop, add all the server stuff and boot into a Xen server, are the gui's enough to get my up and running?00:14
clackamasAs much as Xen dev appeals, I need to getting working for filesystem work.00:14
clackamasBasically, I want a head machine that will start up the PV or HVM instance.00:14
clackamasI will probably use puppet to it.00:14
ubottuclackamas: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!00:14
clackamasMOstly, I am looking for advice on minimizing my tinkering with the Xen scripts and the console layer.00:14
royaltyhello, I am having trouble interacting with mysql on this machine I did a sudo apt-get install of mysql-server and I get an error that mysql can't connect through socket /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock00:15
royaltywhen I run00:15
royaltymysql -u root00:15
clackamasno worries.00:15
ggreerI have the weirdest problem with my thinkpad. sometimes when I boot up or resume from suspend, the trackpoint and buttons don't work00:16
ggreerand I have to reboot to fix it00:16
ggreerI haven't figured out a way to consistently reproduce the problem00:16
ggreeroh wait this is 14.04 alpha00:17
ggreerwrong channel :)00:17
rsullyi am trying to resize my ubuntu vm (lvm parition). I resized it in vmware, booted gparted livecd to resize it, but when i boot into ubuntu `df -h` shows the old sizes.00:17
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CountryfiedLinuxIs there a way to set the Xfce or Unity panel to intellihide?00:34
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felix__hola00:37
felix__alguien esta on?00:37
FailDrainHello how do I use xrandr to duel monitor?00:37
rwwubottu: es | felix__00:37
ubottufelix__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.00:37
felix__ok00:38
felix__es k no se como veo si hay alguien on00:38
felix__soy nuevo en esto00:38
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FailDrainCan I have some help setting up my duel monitors please?00:41
judeso i have installed fresh rosegarden, after the loading screen of the program closes, the X server crashes on my ubuntu 13.10. Any pointers on how to debug or figure out what is breaking X?00:44
gustavjude: Logs.00:44
judei have never had programs crash X. which logs do i use/where do i find them?00:45
gustav/var/log.00:45
judethere are a bunch of xorg ones, are those the ones i should look at? and what should i look for in the filename?00:48
gustavTry the latest changed one.00:48
gustavWhich do you have?00:48
CountryfiedLinuxIs there a way to set the Xfce or Unity panel to intellihide?00:48
felix__ey man00:49
felix__i am spanish speaker and need help00:49
mollywoodfelix, there is a spanish channel if needed.00:50
felix__but in the spanish chanel there is not people i belive00:50
felix__i do the question00:50
felix__but nobodyhelpme00:50
mollywoodfelix, All that matters is if we can comunicate.00:50
felix__i need help for my linux00:51
mollywoodfelix__: Tell the channel the problem.00:51
CountryfiedLinuxDon't discourage other languages in this channel. The channels for other languages are pretty much dead.00:51
felix__i install linux but i am new with the gnu/linux os00:51
mollywoodCountryfiedLinux: I don't see anyone doing that, however this is an english channel.00:52
felix__i want install program but it tell me disc is full00:52
felix__?00:52
mollywoodfelix__: Is the disc full?00:52
felix__yes00:52
mollywoodfelix__: Then remove what you can, having it full is a danger of bricking it.00:53
felix__but i dont know what i need to delete without to do nothing bad00:53
clackamas_felix: can you share the output of 'df -g' by running it the command line?00:53
gustavfelix__: Delete from your home directory.00:54
felix__yes00:54
felix__my home is empty is my / full00:54
clackamas_yes, so how do you have the system partitioned?00:54
felix__yes clackmas i can run it00:54
clackamas_The df command will help :)00:55
netaHow do you uninstall something ?00:55
netalike the oposite of apt-get install ...00:55
clackamas_apt-get remove ...00:55
felix__yes00:55
clackamas_If you wan to uninstall a package.00:55
mollywooduse nicks here folks00:55
felix__and i also use ubuntu sofware center00:55
netawill try00:55
gustavJust get another harddrive.00:56
felix__omg it is hard for me i want to be a linux user00:56
felix__but it is not so easy00:56
felix__apt-get remove ?00:57
netai did not use apt-get install to install it i downloaded it and then sudo make install - uninstalling still the same ?00:57
clackamas_felix_: I have a hard time being a windows user ;)  200:57
judemy xorg appears to segfault on running a fresh install of rosegarden, what should I do to find out what is broken? here is my xorg output: http://pastebin.com/mGeUiXfB00:57
clackamas_neta: apt-get is an admin command for installing/removing packages.  THe installation program you used to install Ubuntu did.00:58
netafound it its make uninstall00:58
netathanks00:58
felix__people only i want get free space and dont damage my system00:58
clackamas_Oh, you are building software.00:58
clackamas_felix_ are you dual booting with Windows?00:59
gustavjude: Talk to the Rosegarden people, unless you're having the same problem with other software?00:59
felix__yes00:59
mollywoodfelix__: How big is your / if your home is empty you can resize /00:59
clackamas_felix_: how large is root?  'df -h /'00:59
gustavjude: Is your X setup special in any way?00:59
felix__only 10gb01:00
judegustav: not that i know of01:00
clackamas_And how big is  /home?01:00
mollywoodfelix__: To small really how big is the home partition?01:00
felix__15gb01:00
felix__and windows is 15gb01:00
clackamas_so you only have 40GB hard rive total?01:01
gustavjude: Could be that Rosegarden is triggering a bug in your version of X, so try upgrading any of them, if you can, or downgrade. If you feel like testing. And if you can't get a hold of the Rosegarden folks.01:01
mollywoodfelix__: anything encrypted in ubuntu, is this a standard install?01:01
felix__yes 40gb01:01
felix__yes01:01
mollywoodfelix__: what is the second yes for?01:02
felix__when i use the terminal for installing thins what do the installers?01:02
clackamas_felix_: if you can, I would recommand re-installing Ubuntu but make 1 partition instead of 2 given your constraints.01:02
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mollywoodfelix__: make sure when you addres another here you start the response with their nick, you can tab complete nicks.01:03
clackamas_felix_: how much ram do you have?01:04
felix__mollywood is bad 10gb for root?01:04
felix__512 but i need disc space no ram01:04
mollywoodfelix__: 10 gigs is a bit small, you have filled it up it seems.01:05
clackamas_felix_: understand about disk space vs. ram.   I was asking because you will want 512-1024M of swap.01:05
felix__yes i have 512 and swap 1gb i learn to do ir reading01:06
clackamas_fleix_: if you can, re-install Unbutu  with the same amount of swap, but 1 25GB partition.01:08
clackamas_So, you would have 1 partitoin for Windows, 1 for swap and 1 for Linux.01:08
felix__clackmas understand me please i have one partition for each01:09
judegustav i tried the 13.04 and the 13.10 of rosegarden and they both crash X. so does that mean it is most likely my version of X?01:09
clackamas_felix: so I thught you had  /home that is 15GB and a / that is 10GB?01:09
felix__yes one for each01:10
felix__but my /home is empty01:10
felix__my root is full01:10
clackamas_felix__, I am suggesting you re-install Linux but change how you installed it.01:11
mollywoodfelix__: Having one partition for / and home in your situation will be your best setup. Otherwise you have to know how to resize partitions to get the most out of ubuntu.01:12
clackamas_felix__, what mollywood just said.01:13
felix__just a partition or one for each one?01:13
clackamas_felix__, Just 1 partition for LInux.01:13
felix__then i dont need to make /home?01:14
felix__just the root?01:14
clackamas_felix__, no.01:14
mollywoodfelix__, Did you install ubuntu?01:14
felix__yes01:14
mollywoodfelix__: What release is it?01:14
felix__i was looking a way for deleting things i dont need01:16
mollywoodfelix__: what does this command show when run in the terminal.  lsb_release -a01:16
clackamas_felix__,  you can use the gui to remove packages you don't need.01:17
felix__ok01:17
felix__lsb dont run at terminal01:18
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felix__thaks all people i am going to google to look if i get information01:19
felix__good bye01:19
clackamas_felix__, bye bye.01:19
z1hazefor some reason my irc keeps disconnecting every 5 minutes what could cause this01:21
clackamas_zlhaze: the server splits.01:21
z1hazewhat does that mean?01:22
clackamas_z1haze, it means irc is a collection of servers that are connected.  However, if a server drops out, it cause causes a split.01:22
Beldarz1haze, I suspect freenode is be attacked again I have had a problem getting on all day.01:22
Beldarbeing*01:23
cypher-neoIt's been splitting for the past 2 weeks. I suspect that Freenode is being DDoS'ed.01:23
Beldaryep it has been happening lately01:23
z1hazeah that makes sense01:23
z1hazepointless01:23
BeldarI saw a study lately that showed that people who troll, and probably do this are sociopaths, amongst other definitions01:25
clackamas_Beldar, did that same study suggest that those who seek to become world leaders are socipaths as well?01:28
Beldarclackamas_, Not the same, but narcissism is the key word for all, lol.01:28
clackamas_Beldar, lol.01:29
doobedaHi my screen layout editor doesn't work the virtual screen size is smaller then my duel monitor size how do I fix this?01:29
doobeda arandr01:29
Beldardoobeda, what VM app are you using?01:30
doobedabeldar: VM app?01:30
Beldardoobeda, I assume this as you use the word "virtual".01:30
doobedabeldar: I'm using the normal arandr that I had to manually install through the package manager synaptic01:31
sennnfirefox and chrome have startup trouble in lubuntu 14.04 now01:31
Beldardoobeda, Ah, not familiar with it.01:31
sennntest01:31
Beldar!trusty | sennn01:31
ubottusennn: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+101:31
doobedabeldar: well basically I Just want duel monitor support :/01:32
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sennnubottu firefox and chrome have startup issue01:34
ubottusennn: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:34
Beldarsennn, 14.04 support is on #ubuntu+101:34
sennnBeldar thanks01:34
Beldarno prob01:34
resmHe instalado Ubunto 13.10 en mi maquina nueva  Dell Precision M4800, pero tengo un problema con mi wifi que no conecta01:39
resmsegun lo que he leido esta certificado para version 12.0401:39
resmserá que puede mejorar al instalarle esa version?01:40
pmp6nlIs there a way to make ubuntu use a SOCKS proxy server for all applications?01:40
ethermonk!es01:40
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.01:40
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resmGracias por la aclaracion. ya me muevo ese canal.01:42
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Guest77998Hello01:45
alexi5hi all01:45
clackamas_Guest77998, and alexi5: hi.01:45
Guest77998first time user, any help01:45
Guest77998hello clackamas01:45
clackamas_Guest77998, we can only try to help you :)  WHat's the issue?01:46
Guest77998I know nothing of this program. Nothing at all01:47
alexi5I notice that ubuntu server (12.04) locks up  after   transfering  a huge amount of data to samba shares . What could be the problem. Is this a known issue?01:47
clackamas_Guest77998, what is your goal?01:47
Beldaralexi5, You might try #ubuntu-server01:48
clackamas_alexi5, i don't know if your problem is known or not, but one guess is a nic bug.  You can check in /var/log/syslog to see if there are any hints to the problem.01:48
Guest77998I am a networker and this looks to be a serious and vibrant community. Hence my goal to utilize this as  a source for better understanding linux (which is mainly used as an OS for servers)01:49
alexi5i checked syslog after rebooting the server and i don't see any errors01:50
Guest77998I lost my nickname and that made me sad. :(01:50
BeldarGuest77998, Excellent, however this is support, address that please.01:50
ethermonk type /nick to change your nick01:50
ethermonkyou may want to check in @ #freenode for help in how to use freenode IRC01:51
Guest77998ethermonk thank you!01:52
CypherPunk3ralexi5, I've seen it a few times It's always been a nic bug.01:53
Guest77998Beldar I am new and do not know where to go, although ethermonk directed me and I am thankful. Going to freenode. :)01:53
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basketballhow do i open a .db file01:53
alexi5ok01:53
ethermonkGuest77998, for community chat check out #ubuntu-offtopic01:54
ethermonkbasketball,  i use gedit01:54
alexi5CypherPunk3r: what are some ways of resolving this ?01:54
CypherPunk3ralexi5, replacing the nic has always worked for me. BUT you might try upgrading the driver first.01:55
alexi5ok01:55
basketballethermonk,  how do i open it with sqlite01:59
xjkxI want to make myself a script to do apt-get update and dist-upgrade that I will call from openbox menu, so...I won't be seeing the output, its supposed to do in background. So my question is, how am I gonna answer Yes, that I want that upgrade ? apt-get dist-upgrade -y ?02:02
pmp6nlIs there a way to make ubuntu use a SOCKS proxy server for all applications?02:02
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xjkxI read the manual I'm not too sure the different between assume yes and force yes02:03
ethermonki do all my DB editing in gedit or vim.  every once and a while i'll do something in phpmyadmin, but gedit is all i've ever needed basketball02:03
basketballethermonk,  gdet shoed the text as all 0s02:04
ethermonk-y should work pmp6nl02:04
StonyHey, I was hoping someone could assit me on something.02:04
ethermonk-y should work xjkx02:05
StonyI plugged in an external CD drive, it works totally fine, but when I plugged in a CD it asked me what I wanted it to do, and I accidentally told it to do that every time. How would I correct that?02:05
pmp6nlethermonk, I set it up under settings --> network proxy and set it to 127.0.0.1 and it doesnt work. I connected to my linux server via ssh before i did this02:05
xjkxethermonk: thanks, do you know what this differs from force yes ?02:05
CypherPunk3rbasketball,  install sqlite from the repo. Then you can do it from the terminal02:05
xjkxethermonk: there is a --force-yes in manual02:05
ethermonk--force-yes would be preferred02:06
Stonycould anyone tell me how to reset the CD drive settings?02:07
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pmp6nlethermonk, I set it up under settings --> network proxy and set it to 127.0.0.1 and it doesnt work. I connected to my linux server via ssh before i did this02:20
snadgeanyone use ubuntu on a laptop with a touchscreen interface? .. i have a really cheap asus laptop that currently has 8.1 on it02:21
snadgeand i use ubuntu on everything else I own.. but I just haven't bothered to try it on my laptop.. because, as much as I hate to say it, windows 8.1 works just great02:21
crondsnadge: I do, but I don't use unity anyways02:22
crondso I can't comment on how touch friendly it is or isn't.02:22
Beldarsnadge, This is support, not polling or how happy you are with whatever you want to show.02:22
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ethermonkpmp6nl,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/150244/how-do-i-set-up-an-ssh-socks-proxy-with-gnome-ssh-tunnel-manager   bind to your clint IP not 127?02:25
ethermonkpmp6nl,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/77509/how-do-i-set-a-global-socks-proxy-in-xubuntu02:27
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pmp6nlthanks ethermonk --- ill give it a try02:29
impossibleto boot ubuntu off a usb in a uefi system can i do ss if= of= or do i have to make a special uefi usb02:30
Beldar!uefi | impossible02:31
ubottuimpossible: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI02:31
Beldarimpossible, Ubuntu has uefi in the live ISO for install on a uefi setup.02:31
impossibleBeldar:: i see, so its ok out the boxfor uefi, so no special usb set up02:33
impossibleill just do sudo ss if of02:33
Beldarimpossible, As far as I know yes, look at the wiki is all for the install.02:33
impossibledd i meantbtw lol02:34
elb0wSo I just upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10. When I try to login as my main user the unity ui doesnt load and then after awhile I get a compiz error message. I had to login as a guest account. Any idea?02:34
impossibledd if of02:34
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elb0wsu elb0w02:35
elb0wer02:35
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linuxuz3rgnome wont boot properly can someone help02:37
Beldar!details | linuxuz3r02:38
ubottulinuxuz3r: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."02:38
Beldarelb0w, I would run a unity compiz reset in the tty to start with02:38
LeeMerrimanHi, I'm looking to install Ubuntu on my computer, but I already have Windows 7 and Windows 8. Will I still be able to access them?02:39
BeldarLeeMerriman, If installed correctly yes, is this a uefi or msdos setup?02:39
Beldaruefi+gpt02:39
Beldar=*02:40
LeeMerrimanBeldar I admittedly have no idea what that means.02:40
elb0wSo now I logged in as my main user and had to hotkey to start my shell. I just have my wallpaper02:41
elb0wIs there a way to reset all my ui stuff to default?02:41
BeldarLeeMerriman, gpt is just a different partition setup, different then the msdos we have had for years.02:41
Beldarelb0w, Did you run a reset on unity and compiz to get in?02:42
Vivekanandaanyone with something for me02:42
elb0wBeldar: I did a gconftool reset02:42
elb0wunity --reset says its deprecated02:43
LeeMerrimanBeldar: Windows 7 came on HD, installed Windows 8 on an SSD I installed later, partitioned via Windows 7. IF that helps.02:43
VivekanandaI tried the option of chaging settings to corret the problem of my homescreen showing /home/user instead of /home/user/Desktop02:43
coreireI'm using ubuntu on a media/file server and it usually just boots to command line. If I need an x session I log in with xrdp and log off when I'm done. I checked the free memory usage before and after the session. It's 393mb on cli, 605mb when using xrdp and  563mb when I log back off. I'm assuming something is still running, how can I find out what?02:43
Beldarelb0w, 13.10 is dconf, did you make sure you were using a 13.10 reset, this has changed in releases?02:43
elb0wBeldar: it works fine when I load in as a guest02:43
Beldarelb0w, A reboot after a reset is suggested as well.02:44
elb0wBeldar: I did a setsid compiz02:45
elb0wand it seems to have worked02:45
elb0will reboot anyway02:45
Jessiex02:48
samineruHi there, I would like an external drive I mounted to be available to other users. The mountpoint /media/rob/DriveName currently has permissions 700, and it's owner and group are "rob". What is the best way to make it available to other users?02:48
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samineruThe specific application is for plex media server.02:48
BeldarLeeMerriman, You should at the least boot a live ubuntu environment and come back so we can look at the HD and advise you with accurate info.02:51
CypherPunk3rQuick question: if I just need to pipe a few Linux apps to Windows, should I go with LTSP or X11 Forwarding?02:51
BeldarCypherPunk3r, This is ubuntu support ##linux may be more appropriate.02:53
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CypherPunk3rThanks Beldar02:55
Beldarno prob02:55
michael_panyone know how to get rid of the noveau driver02:59
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basketballlethermonk,  it shows up as all 0s02:59
basketballlethermonk,  he file you opened has some invalid characters. If you continue editing this file you could corrupt this document.03:01
basketballlYou can also choose another character encoding and try again.03:01
basketballlhow do i open a .db file with sqlite03:03
linuxuz3rhow do you remove all of firefox deps03:03
linuxuz3rand install it again03:03
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basketballlUnable to open database "MessageParser.db": file is encrypted or is not a database03:04
cfhowlettlinuxuz3r, sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox     IIRC03:05
michael_pi have an nvidia 760 gtx driver every time i install it it says that nouveau driver is failing it is there away to get rid of that03:05
linuxuz3rok03:07
linuxuz3rdoes 12.04 have the latest firefox?03:07
Beldarlinuxuz3r, Latest yes, and you would need to run a purge to fully remove it.03:09
cfhowlettlinuxuz3r, 27.0.103:09
Beldarlinuxuz3r, You might address problems with FF I doubt you need to remove it.03:09
ethermonkbasketballl, try sqlite database browser available in software ceneter03:10
davidrsmorrishello, I have a multilayered problem.  Currently, the outermost one is that when I log in (standard lightdm, though it has been reinstalled), the screen blanks, a standard cursor appears, the ubuntu drum roll happens, and I'm back at the prompt.  Ubuntu 12.04.  Please help?03:10
linuxuz3rwhat is gdbm fatal: malloc error?03:10
Beldarlinuxuz3r, Context?03:11
davidrsmorrisOh, forgot one thing: I can log in as guest user.03:11
linuxuz3rafter installing firefox03:12
linuxuz3ri found a solution and it says to run  /etc/cron.daily/mandb03:13
Beldarlinuxuz3r, Reflect for a minute on our postion in reading your posts. Do they have enough details to really help?03:13
Beldarposts*03:13
michael_pi wonder if fedora has the same error03:14
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linuxuz3rfixed it03:23
RalliasIs it possible to install virtualbox without the need of a gui system?03:29
basketballl!virtualbox03:30
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox03:30
basketballl!virtualbox | Rallias03:30
ubottuRallias: please see above03:30
Ralliasbasketballl, That does NOT answer my question.03:31
cfhowlettRallias, !vbox is the channel for such a nuanced question.03:31
cfhowlett#vbox   sorry03:32
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basketballlRallias,  http://bit.ly/1ei3rWo 2nd link03:32
LeeMerrimanIs there something about Ubuntu downloads that is done very different from Windows? Windows I get way slower download speeds than I'm getting here, and ##windows is dead so I figured I'd try here03:34
cfhowlett!torrent|LeeMerriman, don't download -03:34
ubottuLeeMerriman, don't download -: Some torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus/Vuse (Java), !Frostwire (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/help/faq - See also !P2P03:34
cfhowletttorrents can be faster than direct download03:34
LeeMerrimancfhowlett: I mean wget is getting me 13.9MB/s on Ubuntu, and the same file on Windows no matter how I do it is 2.6MB/s03:35
cfhowlettLeeMerriman, too many unknown factors to analyze properly03:36
LeeMerrimancfhowlett: Such as?03:36
RalliasLeeMerriman, The only difference I can think of is 1. you're running a .net compile of wget, or 2. windows runs tcp-slow-start strictly (more likely #1)03:36
cfhowlettLeeMerriman, this sounds like a non-problem problem.  I'm out.03:36
LeeMerrimanRallias: Firefox installed on both, same file from same place. Windows 2.6MB/s, Ubuntu 13.9MB/s. The only place I see on Windows that gets my 13.9 is Steam.03:37
RalliasLeeMerriman, Again, I don't know enough about the nitty gritty in windows except to suggest the former two items.03:38
RalliasLeeMerriman, What kind of file is it?03:38
LeeMerrimanRallias: I'm not using wget on Windows03:39
LeeMerrimanRallias: http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test03:39
RalliasAhh, so highly compressible.03:39
RalliasIt may be that your windows install is on 10 mbit/s ethernet...03:39
LeeMerrimanRallias: I'd assume then that Steam wouldn't get the full 105, but it does03:39
RalliasLeeMerriman, Comcast?03:40
LeeMerrimanRallias: Correct.03:41
RalliasWell then, third theory.03:42
RalliasI've had a theory for a while that comcast throttles windows users because they can get away with it, but not linux users because linux users tend to complain more.03:42
RalliasLeeMerriman, Or option 4: You're using different DNS servers on linux than on windows.03:43
LeeMerrimanRallias: Nope03:43
davidrsmorrisHi, I have destroyed one user account on my machine such that when you try to log in, you hear the drums and are back at the login.  Help?03:50
cfhowlettdavidrsmorris, since guest account access works, I'd say that your system is installed properly, but there's a confusing configuration in your user account.  Fix?  I don't know but --- login to the terminal, create a new user account for yourself, reboot, login03:52
Beldardavidrsmorris, As well for help details are needed. Since you state you have"destroyed one user account" what does that exactly mean?03:53
davidrsmorriscfhowlett: I am trying to change fonts back to defaults, do you know how to do that (made an extra account) Beldar: was messing around with fonts, errors started happening.  And XDM blocked boot, even for console access!03:55
cfhowlettdavidrsmorris, hmm.  I wonder if it's a rendering issue.  Me?  In this situation, I'd login to terminal, nuke the user configurations (all the .hidden files) from my /user/home   and then reboot/login.03:58
cfhowlettYMMV03:58
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jdwwattsnickserv identify guitar123404:00
cfhowlettjdwwatts, you need the /04:01
killerhey , how can i add a program to startup (let's say docky) for all users using terminal(need it for a script)04:01
davidrsmorriscfhowlett: I'm hoping to avoid that, since I've spent so much time with those...04:01
cfhowlettdavidrsmorris, understood.  the XDM suggests rendering confusion.  good luck04:02
jdwwattsthis is crazy04:03
cfhowlettjdwwatts, /msg NickServe identify *passwordgoeshere*04:04
cfhowlettjdwwatts, and now that you've kindly posted your password for all to see, you MIGHT want to change it.04:04
Beldarjdwwatts, change your password and use one not so easy to crack04:04
jdwwattsthats what i mean that didn't happened to be the right one though04:05
jdwwattshow do you get set up i here with out04:05
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Beldar!register | jdwwatts04:06
ubottujdwwatts: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode04:06
killerhow can i add a program to startup for all users using terminal04:07
basketballlhow do i install dictclient04:07
jdwwattsthats the thing i hate to sound really dumb here but it says type this info but not where to type it04:07
hewhomustkiller what do you mean all users using terminal?04:07
Beldarjdwwatts, as if you were posting but correct commands04:07
hewhomustoh got you, the grammar was kinda weird04:08
davidrsmorrisOk, new info, I can tickle the bug by linking the new user's home directory so it reads the real user's home directory.  Does anyone have ideas beyond moving random config files until my login works?04:08
jdwwattsok ok i see04:08
killerthe gui startup adds it to startup for current user only , so I want to do for all including guest session04:08
cfhowlettdavidrsmorris, don't move them, rename them and leave in place.  when you next login, the default file will be created.04:09
jdwwattsthe sys tem is running low on power04:09
hewhomustkiller copy the .desktop to /etc/xdg/autostart04:10
killerhewhomust: thanx04:13
hewhomustnp04:13
ibrahimHello, I am having problems with getting a Ubuntu LiveCD to work on a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out with this?04:17
Arames#russia04:17
cfhowlett!ru|Arames,04:17
ubottuArames,: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.04:17
cfhowlett!mac|ibrahim,04:17
ubottuibrahim,: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages04:17
Aramesohh fast help :)04:18
ibrahimubottu, ok, I'll take a look.04:18
ubottuibrahim: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:18
ibrahimlol ok04:18
Aramesohh :)))04:18
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Aramesyou made me afraid i thought for a second the machines control the earth (terminator) :))))))04:19
Arameshow to pick up a new chanel ?04:19
cfhowlettArames, /join #channelnamehere04:20
sakter12my bluetooth isn't working?  it's all greyed out? the askubuntu google hits didn't work, how do i enable bluetooth in 13.10?04:20
cfhowlett!bluetooth|sakter12,04:20
ubottusakter12,: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup04:20
Aramesok and how to change the server ?04:21
davidrsmorrishello, in case anyone would like to grovel or has an idea, I posted my dotfiles by last touched at paste.ubuntu.com/6979918 also does anyone know how to log in graphically, verbosely?04:24
davidrsmorrissorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/6979918/04:28
davidrsmorrisoh, I think all of this would go away if I could run an X application as another user --- has anyone done that?04:29
davidrsmorrisif I run a program as another user, even with the right $DISPLAY set, it coughs and dies with "No protocol specified\nNo protocol specivied\n\n(myunity:18409): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0"04:31
adv__Hi all good morning04:37
davidrsmorrisdoes anyone know what config files all window managers load?04:40
Neytirihey i am haibng one hell of a isuse with my system atm, i am running ubuntu 12.04, with the cinnamon desktop enviroment, and cinnamon keeps crashing, on me since i added in a 3rd monitor, and also i am having issues getting my windows to behave properly04:51
Neytiriis there a way i can get the 12.04 desktop enviroment on 12.04 cause i am looking at reinstallinhg04:51
clackamasArames: You need to join irc help first.04:57
clackamasArames: but since that isn't helpful ;) if you do /join #ubuntu-server04:57
cfhowlett"Machete don't grovel..."04:59
Neytirihey i am haibng one hell of a isuse with my system atm, i am running ubuntu 12.04, with the cinnamon desktop enviroment, and cinnamon keeps crashing, on me since i added in a 3rd monitor, and also i am having issues getting my windows to behave properly04:59
Neytiriis there a way i can get the 12.04 desktop enviroment on 12.04 cause i am looking at reinstallinhg04:59
BeldarNeytiri, Can you be clearer what your end goal is here.05:01
Neytirimy end goal is a 12.4 system with a 10.04 desktop enviroment05:01
AikarHi - 12.04 works fine but on 13.10 enabling any feature of nvidia driver such as multigpu, sli, basemosaic causes system to super hang on login (login screen is fine). I need base mosaic for triple head. any ideas?05:02
BeldarNeytiri, Not possible that is gnome 2, however there is a pseudo gnome 2 fallback desktop.05:02
Aikari have tried multiple nvidia drivers05:02
Neytiriok how would i get that05:02
BeldarNeytiri, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed  this shows what it looks like.05:03
Beldarand the install05:03
Neytirik05:04
BeldarNeytiri, You might consider using ppa-purge on the cinnamon if a ppa.05:04
Beldar!ppa-purge | Neytiri05:05
ubottuNeytiri: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html05:05
Neytirii am gonna do a fresh install05:05
BeldarNeytiri, I doubt you need to, but that is your decision.05:05
Neytirii generally like to do so once a year05:06
BeldarNeytiri, Sure, additionally on the channel you want to preface answers to another user with their nick, you can tab complete nicks.05:07
ajoulwhat is the command I put after executing something to FORCE all output to a file?05:08
ajoulsomething like 2>1&05:08
advx_hi all good morning05:08
advx_any one installed 13.10 x64 on Intel NUC05:09
ajouladvx_ what you need05:09
Beldaradvx_, That is a poll, we are support here.05:09
advx_i have booted, installed 13.10 on hdd05:10
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advx_ now unable to boot frm hhd05:10
Beldar!away > zz_SrRaven05:10
ubottuzz_SrRaven, please see my private message05:10
advx_new to uefi05:10
Beldaradvx_, Try to keep your posts in one set, don;t use enter and punctuation. Can you boot the HD at all to any OS?05:11
Beldarand=as*05:11
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davidrsmorrishey everybody, I'm able to log in (with a new .xauthority) but unity widgets don't show up.  Does anyone have any ideas on how to REALLY reinstall unity?05:12
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pvl1davidrsmorris: sudo apt-get purge #UNITY, sudo apt-get install unity05:17
pvl1davidrsmorris: but id look through the logs before i go deleting system stuff05:17
NeytiriBeldar, how do i know what pps's i have installed05:18
BeldarNeytiri, PPA'are generally added to /etc/apt/sources.list.d05:18
Neytirik05:19
Neytiribrb05:19
BeldarNeytiri, Please use full sentences and words here.05:20
Beldarat least words anyway05:20
NeytiriBeldar, how, do i stop my program windows from filling both the screens on my first video card05:23
BeldarNeytiri, Not an issue we have discussed you want to refer to the channel in that case.05:24
Neytiriok05:24
Neytirihow, do i stop my program windows from filling both the screens on my first video card05:24
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davidrsmorrisok, so I've reduced my problems, I'm working in ubuntu-2d... does anyone know why the Unity widgets might be gone from the normal session?05:40
pvl1davidrsmorris: try killing xinit and running xinit& unity --verbose& from a tty05:47
pvl1or see if theres a log file05:47
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jeetpeiHello Guys06:02
jeetpeii have problem with davfs2+Ubuntu 12.0406:02
jeetpeii can not rename folders in webdav mount .. i amusing davfs2 for mount06:03
pvl1jeetpei: check ownerships and config files06:05
jeetpeipvl1 : i am using sudo all time .. and if i am doing something wrong can you please let me know which files need attention .. i setup use_lock = 0 in config file06:06
pvl1jeetpei: the thing is, your using sudo locally right? however with what user are you logging in06:07
pvl1perhaps the user that youre logged in as cannot access the dir06:07
pvl1jeetpei: what webdav server are you using, do u have access it06:08
jeetpeipvl1: i logged in as Jeet user and using sudo to mount also using sudo to mv in webdav mount06:08
jeetpeipvl1: i am not sure about this, sorry06:09
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pvl1jeetpei: you should ask on #networking06:10
jeetpeipvl1: i could try to find your answer if its needed..06:11
pvl1jeetpei: you stated you cannot rename folders. how do you know you have write access to these folders06:11
genii#networing is an official channel? Or is it maybe ##networking ?06:11
jeetpeipvl1: because i tried same with Windows client and cadaver as well and it succed there06:12
pvl1##networking perhaps. but freenode would probably forward you06:12
pvl1ah that changes things06:12
pvl1jeetpei: whats the command you use for mounting06:12
jeetpeipvl1: i am using mount -t davfs <server-address>  /mnt/<folder> -o username06:13
pvl1jeetpei: as root?06:13
jeetpeipvl1: sudo06:13
jeetpeipvl1: should i try root ?06:14
pvl1jeetpei: thats what sudo does06:14
jeetpeipvl1: hmm06:15
pvl1what are you using to access the webdav06:15
pvl1terminal or a filemanager06:15
jeetpeipvl1: terminal06:16
zykotick9pvl1: fyi, if it is just a temporary mount, i'd recomment just using /mnt as your mount point (that's what it's there for) - note, the subfolder under mount must exist before you run your mount command....06:16
jeetpeiactually i connected using putty06:17
pvl1jeetpei: ^^ and do you have permissions to the directory? not just owner but also permissions, ls -la /dir06:17
Andres123Hi,06:18
Andres123Can somebody help me qith my Nvidia card driver06:18
jeetpeipvl1: you mean in server or local mount point ?06:18
zykotick9jeetpei: you need to use "ls -lad /dir" to see the directory it self!  pvl106:18
pvl1oh thanks zykotick9, getting tired06:19
jeetpeidrwxr-xr-x 3 root root06:19
pvl1jeetpei: and what is your rename command, as well as error06:19
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jeetpeipvl1: i do mv DIR/  DIR-Rename/ and it failes with input/output error06:20
jeetpeipvl1: mv: cannot move `GHJK/' to `GHJKl/': Input/output error  (this is error)06:23
geniii/o error is 99% of the time failed hardware06:23
* zykotick9 notes that whatever directory jeetpei used the ls on, is owned by root:root and group/other have no write permissions...06:23
geniieg: Your hard drive is probably kaput06:23
zykotick9genii: isn't it a webdav mount or something?06:24
jeetpeigenii: i am not agree with you06:24
pvl1zykotick9: thats what im trying to figure out, if webdav understands users and such. i really dunno06:25
geniijeetpei: Feel free to do so. i merely state the facts of my 30 years of experience06:25
zykotick901:19 < jeetpei> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root <-- that seems like it might be an issue to me...06:25
jeetpeizykotick9: what should it be then ?06:25
zykotick9? i'm not even sure what you're mounting ;)06:26
jeetpeiBTW if i am doing everything with root then it should not matter i guess06:27
jeetpeii am mounting egnyte's server06:27
jeetpeihttp://egnyte.com/06:28
jeetpeigenii: i said so because i have tried this with three physical server and one VMware virtual box06:29
zykotick9jeetpei: good luck - i can't help anymore...06:29
geniiIf it's a remote server you are trying to mount and then receiving and i/o error, odds are the mount on their box is on a hard drive which is crashed or in the process of crashing06:31
jeetpeigenii: i get IO Error only with mv other things works fine .. but i would check acording to your suggesstion .. Thanks a lot :)06:32
jeetpeizykotick9: Thanks for luck ;) np you can suggest later06:33
jeetpei;)06:33
geniijeetpei: When the file is on a hd/partition that is OK and you mv it to a corrupt hd/partition same error06:33
jeetpeigenii: how i can find this ? and resolve this ?06:34
jeetpeiit would be really helpful06:34
niuniu6~06:36
geniijeetpei: If you do just: mount    .. it tells you what hd/partitions are mounted into the filesystems under what directories. If you are trying to cp/mv something into a dir that is mounted another place, then umount it and try to fsck it06:36
jeetpeihttps://server-address/webdav on /mnt/webdav type davfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,_netdev)06:39
jeetpeithis is what i get06:39
geniijeetpei: Also to do dmesg|tail to see if there is a streaming bunch of errors06:39
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jeetpeigenii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6980306/06:41
dearcarr0tls06:41
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jeetpeiwell after doing buch of operation i lost my machine :) Thanks guys .. we will talk tomorrow and do some more work ;) ;) genii: pvl1:06:47
pvl1thats no bueno06:47
Andres123HI somebody there?06:49
BeldarAndres123, You need to state the issue for help.06:50
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Guest18471after installing arping in my ubuntu 12.04 x64 my networ interface gone07:00
Guest18471now can't even ping my gateway07:00
dmarranyone using open-vagrant-boxes?07:00
Beldar!anyone | dmarr07:01
ubottudmarr: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.07:01
dmarrim trying to build a phusion instance and i do, but there is no nginx installed which i thought it would07:07
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Guest18471clear07:09
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appahi , "ENable Networking" is disabled in network manager , what's the reason ?07:19
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cnzI can't get my webserver to view php files07:44
cnzany idea07:44
cnzrunning 12.0407:44
cnzwhen I browse to domain/index.php I get 40407:44
cnzwow really 1150 people in here07:46
cnzand everyone is afk?07:46
bazhang!patience | cnz07:47
ubottucnz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/07:47
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FI_jummiI have FS amilo m7400 and I can't get my wireless working07:59
FI_jummisomehow is keeps hardware blocked07:59
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Guest10237what's going down08:19
markisonfirenothin mike08:19
Guest10237do you think it would be possible for ubuntu to add webcam option in the system settings area like, zoom options, brightness contrast etc etc  :)08:22
advx_hi all good afternoon08:26
aristoteleshello ubuntu room.  i have a question about a recent install of 13.10.  all worked fine from live usb when i booted with 'nomodeset' (this is on a computer with ati/radeon 83XX).08:27
advx_INTEL NUC installed 13.10 x64, not able to boot from HDD, plz help08:27
aristotelesbut after installation, i installed libreoffice, which pulled into some dependencies (seems unrelated but it's all i did) and now booting with nomodeset, the paramter seems ignored08:27
advx_live usb working in uefi08:28
aristotelesthe fancy splsh screen occurs and then x fails to start08:28
aristotelesany tips?08:28
Beldararistoteles, Libreoffice is in the install08:28
nokiabotwhy 13.10 1s slow in netbook08:28
aristotelesoh Beldar, i'm sorry, i was using 'lubuntu' because this computer doesn't have a lot of memory and therefore i figured lxde is a little nicer for it.08:28
aristotelesanyway, libreoffice seems unrelated to the issue.08:29
trijntje_nokiabot: what is slow?08:29
Beldararistoteles, how are you booting with no modeset?08:29
aristotelesin /etc/default/grub i had added nomodeset alongside 'quiet splash'08:30
Beldararistoteles, Did you upgrade-grub then?08:30
aristotelesalso i sometimes press 'e' in grub to edit directly08:30
aristotelesbeldar, yes08:30
aristotelesHere's what was strange, on the usb, when booting without nomodeset, i see a fancy splash and then black screen when x fails to start.  after adding nomodeset, the splash screen has a low res, but x starts nicely and looks fine after08:31
advx_Any idea abt intel nuc install08:32
Beldararistoteles, Are you sure you need it, are there no graphic drivers available? Seems ignored means what exactly?08:32
aristotelesnow, with or without the parameter nomodeset, i see the fancy splash, so this makes me thing think that 'nomodeset' is ignored08:32
* genii tries to decipher advx_'s shorthand08:32
Beldargood luck08:32
aristotelesSeems ignored refers to the fact that  with or without the nomodeset paramter, i see the fancy splash and then the black screen.08:32
aristotelesBeldar, i don't mind trying other graphics drivers, but booting into some graphical environment seems better than none as a first step.08:33
Beldararistoteles, So no desktop at all then?08:33
aristotelesright, i can access tty mode08:33
aristotelesi just did apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and it updated several packages relevant to video (radeon, libdrm, etc...) so i think i'm going to reboot (maybe this upgrade helps?)08:34
Beldararistoteles, I would run lspci in the tty and name the graphic hardware to the channel. Maybe the upgrade loaded the right drivers.08:35
nokiabottrintje: its not snappy firefox takes 8 seconds to open dash iis slow08:35
nokiabottrintje: its not snappy firefox takes 8 seconds to open dash iis slow08:35
aristotelesit's a radeon "temash"08:35
aristotelesit's in the 8thousand series.08:35
aristotelesi can get the specific number in one moment.  i'm back at grub now.08:35
Beldararistoteles, There are more specific details on the radeon which is pertinent likely.08:36
aristotelesno problem, just one moment, it is booting now.08:36
aristotelesthere's the fancy splash, ... theres the X crash... the update did not help:(08:37
aristoteles[AMD/ATI] Remash [Radeon HD 8250/8280G]08:38
Beldararistoteles, Graphic drivers if this is the problem are not something I have had to mess with, I've always had intel, hopefully others will know.08:38
aristotelesin fact, this is my friend's computer.  i use debian on a system that has radeon drivers.  i've never had this experience though.08:39
redsn0w_someone uses pigdin connected on facebook?08:40
aristotelesyeah i guess since i just installed today, i can just reinstall from the live usb again and try not to do whatever updates i did which caused me to have this issue08:41
nokiabotwhy 13.10 1s slow in netbook08:41
nokiabot its not snappy firefox takes 8 seconds to open dash iis slow08:42
bazhanghow much ram nokiabot08:42
geniiYes, 8 seconds is an eternity08:42
nokiabot1gb ram08:42
bazhangthats why08:42
nokiabotyup eternity08:42
bazhangup the ram08:43
aristotelesis it possible that the 'nomodeset' parameter isn't supported in the latest kernel?08:43
nokiabothow come08:43
aristotelesi guess i can also look in /var/log/X.log08:43
aristotelessee if there are any clues.  please advise if you guys have sugggestions.08:43
nokiabot1gb should be enough08:43
aristoteleswow actually there are quite a few errors in there08:44
aristotelesstarting with 'failed to load module 'fglrx''08:44
aristotelesi don't know why it's trying to load fglrx, shouldn't it be using the open source radeon drivers?08:45
nokiaboti have 500 mb+ free at any given time08:45
aristoteleswell shit, fglrx is not installed, so why is X looking for it?08:47
aristotelesany advice?08:47
ToaNiiAnyone installed Ubuntu on Mac? Wondering is there a way to control the fan?08:48
Trudkohi guys i want to find out who and from what ip / what time etc logged into my ubuntu server how can I find that?08:48
penguinmanhow did they log in? ssh?08:49
Trudkoyes08:50
tomreynTrudko: last08:51
aristotelesTrudko, cant you just say "who" at the terminal.08:51
penguinmanTrudko, check /var/log/auth08:51
Trudkoheh guys thx will check all of sugestions :)08:52
Trudkoand I would be able to find out also if someone connected using sftp right?08:56
Trudkobasicly I think someone logged under my user name on my server and need to track him somehow08:56
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klasssshi. does anyone know where to find the binaries of a package? I used rpm -qa mod_ssl and it shows me a version number of mod_ssa, but which mod_ssa can't find the directory in the $PATH08:58
bazhangklassss, rpm?08:59
klasssspackage manager08:59
bazhangklassss, apt-cache search name08:59
klassss???09:00
bazhangfedora uses rpm09:00
bazhangubuntu uses apt09:00
klassssoh, sorry, wrong IRC09:00
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tomreynTrudko: yes, dftp is really an ssh login, too.09:02
tomreyn*sftp09:02
tomreynTrudko: "less /var/log/auth.log" is the right tool to use for your purposes09:03
voozeDoes anyone have en DELL XPS 13 with the new haswell CPU + GPU? I have a problem with the WIFI under ubuntu 13.10.. The speed is great with kernel 3.11 but it keeps falling out so I have to turn of the wifi and on again (with the FN-button) for it to reconnect. I tried with a newer kernel, but then the speed is only about 30mbit max. Any ideas here? :/09:03
voozeI have tried both kernel 3.13 and 3.14RC both max about 30mbit09:03
geniivooze: Likely it's usb based and the usb goes into suspend/powersave and turns off the wifi09:04
geniivooze: Does the adapter snow up under lspci or under lsusb ?09:04
genii*show09:04
voozegenii:  this? 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 6b)09:06
voozethats under lspci09:06
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tomreynlooks like it's still power management which is getting in the way according to https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6454109:09
ubottubugzilla.kernel.org bug 64541 in Wireless "Intel Wireless 7260 hardware timed out (lcpci -xxx returns 0xff) randomly" [Normal,Resolved: code_fix]09:09
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voozetomreyn: thank you for your reply :) just reading the thread now, and they say the bug is resolved. So I should just use a newer kernel or ?09:13
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voozetomreyn: I see there is a patch, how do I use it? Sorry for the maybe stupid question09:14
tomreynvooze: probably. sadly i'm not sure how to find out which vanilla kernel version would fix it, nor can i think of an easy way to check for whether a backport exists in ubuntu09:15
mickecyeckguys, My laptop overheats and my fan isn't working.09:15
mickecyeckit's a dell vostro 1500.. I've installed i8kutils and it doesn't respond to the commands.09:16
mickecyeckcan anybody help?09:16
tomreynvooze: chances are this can be fixed in 14.04, so maybe you want to try a live usb, keep it online for a while, and if that seems to work you could do an early upgrade to 14.0409:16
tomreynvooze: you said you tried a newer kernel version, which one was that, and how did you install it?09:18
Tom1 freenode was ddosed again?09:18
aristoteleswell, i looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in both the live usb (which works) and the install (which doesn't) and i found where they diverge.09:18
tomreynTom1: wrong channel, and please don't use root for irc09:19
tomreyn!root | Tom109:19
ubottuTom1: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo09:19
tomreynsorry, ognore that09:19
voozetomreyn: I tried 3.13.3, 3.13.5 and just now tried 3.14RC3 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/09:19
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tomreynmickecyeck: which ubuntu version?09:19
aristotelesthe live usb has VESA BIOS detected and whereas the broken install has (EE) VESA(0) V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range09:20
mickecyeck13.1009:20
aristotelescan any of you comment on thsi?09:20
varunendravooze, what is the problem with the card?09:20
voozevarunendra: the connection drops after some time09:20
voozewith wifi09:21
leeyaahello09:21
leeyaais there a way to hook up a network interface to some event thing that will check if interface is up ? i dont want to use cron scripts09:21
leeyaagoal is to monitor it and restart it if needed09:21
leeyaait is a vpn interface09:21
varunendravooze, does it disconnect or just the speed drops (or completely halts)?09:21
mickecyeckbtw, sensors command out has (high = 100 C; crit = 100 C).. should I be changing the _high_ to something lower?09:22
voozevarunendra: disconnects. And then I have to turn off the wifi with the FN-button09:22
voozebefore it can reconnect09:22
Neytirii am having a issue installing the official nvidia drivers, every  time i run the installer it tells me i have a x session running, and to exit X before continuing09:22
Neytirihow do i stop the X server so i can install the drivers09:23
voozevarunendra: the weird thing is that I am still connected to the network, I just can't ping, DNS or anything09:23
Tom1which is the best encyption tool for linux?09:23
jattgpg09:24
cfhowlett!BEST|Tom1,09:24
ubottuTom1,: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.09:24
varunendravooze, have you tried any firmware downloaded directly from Intel's site? This post suggests so (with positive feedback) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2178873&p=12930277#post1293027709:24
varunendravooze, especially read post 8,9 there09:24
aristoteleslogged in in text mode, did Xorg configure, and I get a segfault.09:24
rannongaecho "nicklist fifo" >> ~/.irssi/startup09:25
tomreynmickecyeck: check whether it's a hardware issue maybe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUd5fD-3W_M09:25
aristotelesany help for a segfaulting fresh lubuntu install?09:26
drmagooanyone know a quick fix to be able to play a video encode with hvc1-videocodec?09:26
varunendravooze, could you give us the pastebin link to a detailed report of your wifi setup? Following this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1235038509:27
voozevarunendra: will try reading that now :)09:27
voozevarunendra: yes 2 secs09:27
voozevarunendra: there you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6980785/09:30
Guest61902I need help09:30
cfhowlett!ask|Guest61902,09:30
ubottuGuest61902,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:30
Shed-34046Is it best to use the open source drivers for my graphics card or09:31
Shed-34046the AMD one?09:31
voozeShed-34046: depends on the card09:31
aristotelesseems my error is exactly like this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/125904909:31
Shed-34046my graphics card is AMD Radeon hd 320009:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1259049 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "Xorg segmentation fault with AMD HD 7790" [Low,Invalid]09:31
rannongadepends the newer ones dont have as good open source support09:31
Guest61902I was on ICQ 4.5 and I cannot get chat rooms on 809:31
aristotelescan you guys advise about a workaround?09:31
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Shed-34046vooze09:31
Shed-34046AMD Radeon hd 320009:31
voozeif its and old card, the open source is probably best yes09:32
Guest61902i cannot talk to random people on ICQ.   Did Russia do this09:32
aristotelesthat bug report says closed fixed in an update but i am lousing the latest09:32
Shed-34046vooze its old legacy its under now on AMD drivers09:32
aristotelessorry, meant using the latest09:32
Guest61902I wanna talk to random people on ICQ09:32
tester56I need help with preseeding ...09:33
Guest61902BTW I use Linux MInt 1609:33
bazhang!mintsupport09:33
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org09:33
cfhowlettGuest61902, wrong channel and mint is not supported here09:33
bazhangGuest61902, ^09:33
Shed-34046vooz on the AMD site it says "Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4"09:33
cfhowlett!ot|Guest61902,09:33
ubottuGuest61902,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:33
Guest61902yep, but I need ICQ chat room09:33
tester56is it possible to pass the file to the installer at the running live cd (without passing a boot parameter first)?09:34
Shed-34046so is open source driver a better choice for me or the AMD?09:34
cfhowlettGuest61902, go to #ubuntu-offtopic and let's keep this channel clear for ubuntu support.  thank you.09:34
Guest61902this is Xchat on Mint 1609:34
Guest61902Am very bored09:34
varunendravooze, I think you should change the encryption algorithm in your router to AES (CCMP). Currently it seems to be TKIP which should be avoided at all costs.09:34
Shed-34046hello?09:34
cfhowlettGuest61902, wrong.  mint is NOT supported on the ubuntu channels.09:34
Guest61902Remember ICQ having chat orom09:34
cfhowlettShed-34046, greetings09:34
Shed-34046cfhowlett hi09:35
Shed-34046cfhowlett would you recommend the AMD or open source driver for my graphics card?09:35
varunendravooze, after saving the change, reboot the router and retry the connection. I hope it'd get better09:35
Guest61902ICQ had random chat room in 200409:35
Shed-34046AMD Radeon hd 3200 and on the drivers page under description it says "Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4"09:35
cfhowlettShed-34046, sorry, I don't have enough experience to advise you.  suggest you ask in #ubuntu09:35
Shed-34046this is ubuntu xD09:35
aristotelesi'd like some ubuntu support09:36
cfhowlettShed-34046, d'oh!  thought I was on the xubuntu side. your are09:36
cfhowlett!ask|aristoteles,09:36
ubottuaristoteles,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:36
aristotelesthanks, robots, i've been asking for the last 2 hours.  let me know what part you need rephrased.09:36
tomreynaristoteles: it'd be good to sum up the problem / your question and what you learnt about it since.09:37
cfhowlettaristoteles, it would help to restate your issue with details every 15 minutes or so.  believe it not ,we are not all breathlessly following your every post, so some of us have no idea what you want09:37
Shed-34046What xserver or xOrg or whatever does ubuntu require?09:38
aristotelescfhowlett, tomreyn, wonderful.  i'm getting segfaults from /usr/bin/X, after upgrading after a fresh install09:38
frotz47Shed-34046: what ubuntu version are you09:38
Shed-34046ubuntu 13.1009:38
aristotelesplease allow me to paste the xorg.0.log09:39
voozevarunendra: I might try that also, but you thinks thats all the problem? because when i read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2204438&p=12924319#post12924319 it seems I need to upgrade some firmware09:39
geniiaristoteles: Please pastebin it instead09:39
tomreyn!paste | aristoteles09:39
ubottuaristoteles: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:39
Guest61902talk to me09:39
Shed-34046when i type xorg.0.log in terminal i get command not found lol09:39
aristotelesdon't be mean, ubuntu robot, we all make mistakes.09:39
cfhowlett!topic|Guest61902,09:40
ubottuGuest61902,: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic09:40
aristotelesShed, Xorg.0.log is a file in /var/log, you'll need to access it with cat or less or a text editor of your choice.09:40
frotz47Shed-34046: use 'Additional Drivers' in app 'Software & Updates'09:40
tomreyn!ot | Guest6190209:40
ubottuGuest61902: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:40
varunendravooze, the TKIP is an inefficient algorithm. It almost always adds to the problem if is not the cause of it.09:40
Guest61902Linux Mint = Ubuntu kernel = on topic09:40
bekks!mint | Guest6190209:41
ubottuGuest61902: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org09:41
aristotelesmy friends, please see my Xorg.0.log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6980803/09:41
redsn0w_hello guys, it's 13.10 User ubuntu and do not know what I did but I changed my unintentionally graphical interface that was standard for KDE unity, could someone help me get back to intarface unity again?09:41
cfhowlettGuest61902, no it doesn't.  you've beenadvised where to go for mint support.  have a little class09:41
aristotelesif you guys have no advice, i think i have to reinstall and not upgrade after reinstall. as things were working this afternoon (this system was just installed a few hours ago)09:41
Guest61902I do not have Mint Debian09:41
Guest61902I have mint09:41
bekksGuest61902: And Mint is not supported in here.09:41
agent_whiteGuest61902: #mint09:42
genii!mintsupport09:42
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org09:42
agent_whiteThis is #ubuntu09:42
cfhowlettGuest61902, NO MINT SUPPORT HERE! none.  zero.  zip. zilch.  nada09:42
Gusteruhi! anyone can help me please ? I have a problem to download. please see my paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/6980817/09:42
Guest61902release a Ubuntu Mate Edition  Seriously09:42
aristotelesnote that segfault is possibly coming from glamor.  any suggestions?09:42
genii!info mate09:42
bekksGuest61902: Thats nothing Ubuntu can do something about.09:43
ubottuPackage mate does not exist in saucy09:43
genii!info mate trusty09:43
Guest61902Mate Desktop Environment09:43
bekksgeez.09:43
ubottuPackage mate does not exist in trusty09:43
geniiHm.09:43
varunendravooze, upgrading the firmware shouldn't hurt though. Usually you can safely and blindly follow whatever chili555 on UF recommends :)09:43
bekksGusteru: Thats nothing Ubuntu can do something about.09:43
bazhangGuest61902, that does not exist for ubuntu09:43
redsn0w_hello guys, it's 13.10 User ubuntu and do not know what I did but I changed my unintentionally graphical interface that was standard for KDE unity, could someone help me get back to intarface unity again?09:43
aristoteleslines 462--499 are very relevant i believe09:43
Guest61902I tell you why.   PC-BSD has it.09:43
bazhangGuest61902, and thats offtopic here09:43
Guest61902PC-BSD has Mate 1.6.109:44
aristotelesseeing as this is a fresh install, it feels like an ubuntu bug, but perhaps i just have something misconfigured?09:44
cfhowlettredsn0w_, logout.  click on the ubuntu icon.  choose unity desktop environment.  log in.09:44
aristotelesyou guys are the experts09:44
geniiGusteru: The site you are trying to download from seems not to support anonymous connection09:44
aristoteleswere you able to view my log?09:44
hewhomustmints nice09:44
Gusterubekks It may be of some settings? or how can I make wget?09:44
fl0wWindows has Aero!09:44
bekksGusteru: It is because of the website ou are trying to download from.09:44
hewhomustfl0w: what?09:44
cfhowlettGusteru, ^^^ problem is on the site not from ubuntu09:45
voozevarunendra: okay, I'll try to upgrade firmware and reboot router after: )09:45
voozejust need to figure out what to do with that tar.gz file09:45
fl0whewhomust: I thought the current topic was to talk off-topic non-sense?09:45
varunendravooze, what does it contain?09:45
bekksvooze: Unpackk it, and read the installation instructions contained.09:45
aristotelesvooze, you might want to unpack it with "tar -xvzf name.of.your.tar.gz'09:45
Gusterucfhowlett bekks genii : I tried to make wget from multiple sites and the same error09:45
bekksGusteru: Then those server do not support anonymous connections.09:46
redsn0w_cfhowlett, when I start the LightDM session opens with kde plasma, it only gives me the option to start with KDE environment or PLASMA UBUNTU which is also the KDE interface09:46
bekksGusteru: It is not about Ubntu settings.09:46
aristotelesthis bug is very similar to mine: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7219209:46
ubottuFreedesktop bug 72192 in Driver/Radeon "Crash in libllvm with kernel based modesetting on Radeon 7790" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]09:46
cfhowlettredsn0w_, this is plain vanilla ubuntu, right?09:47
_dan_hi09:47
cfhowlettGusteru, weird.  the wget you pasted works for me ...09:47
aristotelesthey say fixed in mesa 9.2.2 does this mean i have to get mesa source and recompile?  i'm on ubuntu 13.10, just installed today.09:47
cfhowlett_dan_, greetings09:47
_dan_so i am trying to install the 32-bit libSDL so i can compile this code09:48
Gusterucfhowlett bekks Yes believe you, but a few days ago doing wget on the same site without problems. Now I appear this error09:48
_dan_but it seems it will break my system horribly09:48
_dan_http://pastebin.com/qEAvi4SV09:48
redsn0w_cfhowlett, 13.10 saucy salamander09:49
_dan_why do i need to uninstall python in order to install SDL?09:49
aristotelescfhowlett, i'm getting so sleepy, was hoping to hear somethign from someone in this room before i say fuck it and justt reinstall the working system i had earlier today09:49
aristotelessurely ubuntu is intersted in this bug.09:49
cfhowlettredsn0w_, ask this one again in 15 minutes.  I'm on xubuntu - never used unity09:50
aristotelesi have provided system description, xorg logs, any info you want.09:50
redsn0w_ok, could change, thanks cfhowlett09:50
bekksaristoteles: Did you file a bug?09:50
cfhowlettaristoteles, file a bug report ?09:50
henkpoleyIs there any kind of oddity you can expect when cloning (dd) a 512 bytes sector disk to a 4kb sector disk ?09:50
voozevarunendra: okay, I found the README and it told me to cp the file to /lib/firmware/ and I did that.. Should I just reboot now?09:50
varunendravooze not necessary09:51
bekkshenkpoley: It will be slow as hell when not using a sane bs= option. bs=16M e.g.09:51
aristotelescfhowlett, ok thanks for the "support".  i think i'm going back to debian now.  cheers!09:51
redsn0w_cfhowlett,  informed me that the procedure worked, thank you for your attention.09:51
bekksaristoteles: You better file a bug report.09:51
henkpoleybekks: yes, I did use larger writes09:51
varunendravooze "sudo modprobe -rv iwlmvm" .... then ...."sudo modprobe -v iwlmvm"09:51
aristotelesbekks: there are 3 or 4 idential bug reports files09:51
aristotelesi have provided links to them09:51
bekksaristoteles: Then they would be marked as duplicates.09:51
aristoteleslook above in this irc rrom.09:51
aristoteleswell, then perhaps i shouldn't file anothe rjust to have it also marked as a duplicate, right?09:52
bekksaristoteles: And you could attach a comment "for me too" e.g. - but changing the distro is not going to help anyone.09:52
henkpoleyon my target drive grub-install is complaining: "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sda2.  Check your device.map."09:52
advx_n e 1 on intel nuc09:53
aristoteleswell, i have a working debian system.  my friend asked me to put ubuntu on here.  nonetheless, a working debian is better than a failing ubuntu with an X that segfaults.09:53
aristotelessurely someone wants to *look*  into that Xorg.0.log i pasted?09:53
geniiAnd why are you installing grub to a partition instead of the MBR ......09:53
henkpoleygenii: I'm installing to /dev/sda09:53
aristotelesso, changing the distro will help me if i can get it working on this computer.09:53
henkpoleygenii: sudo grub-install /dev/sda09:54
bekksaristoteles: Well, I feel this discussion is going to end pointless.09:54
cfhowlettaristoteles, do what works for you.09:54
voozevarunendra: okay so that made it worse (with the firmware) its not like 1mbit09:55
voozevarunendra: will try to reboot with kernel 3.13.5 and not 3.14RC09:55
voozebrb09:55
geniihenkpoley: Did you do some partitioning just before this without running partprobe after?09:55
aristotelesperhaps i was being confusing, my computer is a acer with amd apu and radeon, i run debian and all works great.  the computer i'm installing ubuntu on is an hp with amd apu and radeon.  i've gotten quite stuck and spent 4 hours trying to get x to boot.  just wishing someone would look at my gd xorg log and make some relevant comment other than "aristoteles: be sure to do the right thing"09:55
varunendravooze, was it from the github link?09:55
agent_whitearistoteles: Not to be in the elephant in the room, but just a future heads up, you can generally get away with fixing issues regardless of channel if you don't mention your linux flavor.09:55
cfhowlett!attitude|ristoteles,09:55
ubotturistoteles,: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines09:55
tomreynaristoteles: i looked at your log. i can see how your X segfaults. and that you seem to be running 13.10  with correct kernel and Xorg versions. this channel is more about simple fixes which do not involve bisecting and recompiling packages. in your case chances are that may be neceessary. analyzing segfaults is better done via bug reports.09:55
voozevarunendra: no from http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/CS-034398.htm09:56
voozethe 3.13+ kernel09:56
henkpoleygenii: I did ddrescue from one 500GB drive to another (same amount of blocks) then unplug old drive, plug in new drive09:56
Beldaragent_white, Sorry we ask those questions09:56
henkpoleygenii: old drive did have 60kb of bad blocks, but not in the 20GB of boot partition09:56
agent_whiteBeldar: Oh no worries at all. I'm here to listen unless the problem serves better to be asked here.09:56
varunendravooze, is iwconfig showing 1Mb/s ?09:56
aristotelesagent_white, sounds like a suggestion to go back to the debian room where the folks actually look at the stuff you paste.  if i don't tell them its a log from an ubuntu install, they might help.  is that your suggestion or do i misunderstand.09:57
voozevarunendra: no, speedtest.net09:57
agent_whitearistoteles: If it applies across ALL linux flavors, does it matter whom you ask?09:57
BauerGuys, I have Ubuntu installed on SSD drive with GRUB2, and I have 1TB HDD on which I want to install Win 8, without ruining my Ubuntu installation. BIOS is UEFI boot. Any way I can do that without having to restore grub using USB disk later?09:57
aristotelesagent_white: not to me.  :)09:57
agent_whitearistoteles: Does it pertain to Debian specifically? Would they better understand the issue you have and tools you use there? If so... well, choose as you should.09:58
varunendravooze, have you tried any driver parameters yet? Especially the "swenc"09:58
agent_whitearistoteles: I'09:58
aristotelestomreyn: ok, i really, honestly do appreciate that.  i don't mind recompiling packages, i had to do so inorder to get vdpau support in mesa on my debian computer.09:58
varunendravooze, sorry, "swcrypto=1"09:58
agent_whitearistoteles: I'll ask any car guy at any car shop about my car, but if I have a question about a "Nissan-part", I'll ask a Nissan-guy.09:58
voozevarunendra:  nope, not at all, I don't even know what that it09:58
voozeis*09:59
aristotelesagent_white: indeed: xorg-server-video-ati are *not* ubuntu specific.  but these versions of the packages are.09:59
aristotelesanyway, i think i best be moving along.09:59
aristotelessorry i'm so cranky.09:59
varunendravooze, sometimes when the hardware (wifi chip) can't keep up with the packet encryption/decryption job, this parameter helps. It shifts the task from the hardware to the software (driver/os)09:59
agent_whitearistoteles: I think it is best. But now you know ;)10:00
voozevarunendra: okay, how do I try it?10:00
aristotelesagent_white: what is it that I now know?10:00
agent_whitearistoteles: That every mechanic knows about how engines work. But only special-mechanics know about special-engines.10:01
linuxthefishwhy does my desktop just have a blank X Desktop terminal in it?10:01
linuxthefishthis is througb VNC10:01
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varunendravooze, "sudo modprobe -rv iwlmvm" ...... "sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi swcrypto=1" .......... "sudo modprobe -v iwlmvm" --- this will load the parameter temporarily, will be lost on next boot or on next driver reload10:01
aristotelesagent_white: i'm not sure that's somethign that i've just learned, but i will think on that platitude as i reinstall from scratch.  gnite eveyrone10:02
agent_whitearistoteles: Unless the issue is specific to Debian, it most likely can be asked in any linux channel.10:02
aristotelesand thanks again tomreyn for looking at my logfile.10:02
voozevarunendra: So if I understand you, I should use the first and last command to test?10:02
varunendravooze, all three in the sequence they are given10:03
voozevarunendra: ah okay, 2 secs :)10:03
tomreynaristoteles: i guess i'm just saying your issue is not going to be manageable here, too complex for a support channel. i also didn't appreciate your attitude towards the volunteer support crew here. but i wish you luck in solving this issue, and still think adding to existing bug reports (such as by using the ubuntu-bug command as a first step) would be the way to go.10:03
varunendravooze, another parameter worth trying is "bt_coex_active=N" -- it can be tried separately or along with the "swcrypto=1" (sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi swcrypto=1 bt_coex_active=N")10:04
agent_whitetomreyn: Didn't know about what he had said prior, but I agree. Though I disagree, in that you need to exhaust all options before bug-reporting.10:04
aristotelestomreyn, i realize i've gotten cranky.  i shouldn't have projected that onto any volunteers. thank you again for your comments.10:04
voozevarunendra: well the first one did not help, trying this now :)10:05
agent_whitearistoteles: It happens! :D10:05
varunendravooze, the parameter changes may take a few minutes to show the effect. Give 'em 2 to 5 minutes :)10:06
tomreynaristoteles: thanks for your patience and self-reflectedness.10:06
voozevarunendra: okay, its like 20-25mbit now10:07
varunendravooze, nowhere close to satisfactory I guess?10:07
aristotelestomreyn, fwiw, i will now reinstall from the live usb and hopefully all will work as before.  then, i will take careful note of package versions that way if i update something and i end up with this issue again (probably), at least i can competently say what package update caused the error and in that way be a better citizen.10:07
voozevarunendra: should be like 100 :/10:08
Guest61902Is Ubuntu more secure than Mac OS 10.810:08
voozeI get like 80mbit+ on kernel 3.11 without the firmware but thats when the connection drops10:08
aristotelesi'm also going to make a copy of the working /etc/X11/ directory so that i can compare it in detail to any nonworking one i end up with tin the future.10:08
aristotelesthen if i add to a but report, at least i can be specific.10:09
cfhowlettGuest61902, you can find security comparisons from phoronix on the net10:09
varunendravooze, have you changed the TKIP to AES yet? The "swcrypto" parameter should work better with AES10:09
voozevarunendra:  nope, will try that now. hold on :)10:09
varunendraholding on vooze :P10:09
vooze:D:D10:09
Guest61902Can Ubuntu make a KFreeBSD10:10
Guest61902like Debian10:10
Guest61902but one that works10:10
tomreynaristoteles: are you saying you have a custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? if so try moving that out of the way (though you log looked you you don't)10:10
cfhowlettGuest61902, now you're just asking random questions, not support.  go to #ubuntu-offtopic please10:10
aristotelestomreyn, no, actually i don't have any /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:11
aristotelesi did try autogerating one with Xorg -configure, but that also led to segfault.10:11
tomreynaristoteles: nor any files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ i guess10:11
aristotelestomreyn: nothing hand made, and i didn't notice /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ when i looked in /etc/X11/10:12
aristotelesi can verify that though, i still haven't done the reinstall10:12
voozevarunendra: so thats done, same result :/ like 20mbit - I'll try kernel 3.13. brb10:13
Guest61902Did you know that 13.10 crashes on Broadcom wifi drivers10:13
tomreynaristoteles: ok. if you didn't manually create files there and didn't use third party X configuration tools then bothing will be there.10:13
tomreynaristoteles: also, if you will proceed with your plans in determining what causes your regression (though i have not seen an indication that it is one), if you want to look at which packages you asked to be installed / upgraded / removed, you can inspeact /var/log/apt/history.log.10:14
tomreynaristoteles: so i guess the best bet is still to start with that bug report.10:14
aristotelestomreyn, that seems like a good tip.  but don't you consider a segfaulting xserver to be a regression?10:15
tomreynaristoteles: only if the same computer and hardware and software packages worked fine with earlier package versions.10:16
aristotelestomreyn that is the case10:16
SolskogenHi! I'm running trust, and I'm having trouble with landscape-sysinfo. landscape-sysinfo gives no output :/10:16
cfhowlett!trusty|Solskogen,10:17
ubottuSolskogen,: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+110:17
flavioola10:17
cfhowlettSolskogen, see the other channel for support10:17
aristotelesthis afternoon, a fresh install was working fine.  after installing an upgrade and rebooting, i am having a segfaulting X10:17
cfhowlettflavio, greetings10:17
flavio:)10:17
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Solskogencfhowlett:  Official Ubuntu Support Channel?10:17
_dan_ok, so i got a bit further, now the issue is that i cannot install libxext-dev:i386 because i have libxext-dev installed10:17
_dan_O_o10:17
cfhowlett!trusty|Solskogen,10:17
cfhowlettSolskogen, #ubuntu+1   for trusty support10:18
Solskogenoh, okay10:18
Solskogenthanks10:18
tomreynaristoteles: an upgrade of a package of the same release to a package of the same release?10:18
tomreynaristoteles: or are we talknig dist-upgrade here?10:18
voozevarunendra: so, no improvement with kernerl 3.13.510:19
aristotelestomreyn, yes, in that i did not change anything in /etc/apt/sources.list10:19
voozevarunendra: I just don't understand how an older kernel can have a higher speed10:19
varunendravooze, new firmware + AES in the router? (+ parameters also?)10:19
aristotelesi did apt-get install libreoffice (this was an lubuntu usb stick so didn't have libreoffice) and i think i also typed an apt get update && apt-get upgrade.  however i wasn't thinking too hard about it at the time,  i didn't expect x to crash after an update10:20
tomreynaristoteles: and "apt-cache policy" does not list unsupported repositories or repositories incompatible to your release?10:20
voozevarunendra:  yes :/10:21
aristotelestomreyn, i have not added anything to /etc/apt/sources.list so the only repos are the ones that were put there by lubuntu 13.1010:21
aristotelesi ran apt-cache policy on certain packages in the last few hours but currently i'm booted into the live usb again about to reinstall10:21
tomreynaristoteles: okay, so i agree it'd be a regression then. you could note that into your bug report10:21
aristotelestomreyn, i will reinstall to the working system and will tread warily.10:22
varunendravooze, as per the links in the post I linked to earlier, Intel was "Redoing their WiFi stack", things tend to break/have bugs when done from scratch, and I think kernel 3.13 is still under development (??). Maybe that's what you are experiencing.10:22
frotz47aristoteles: you are using lubuntu?10:22
voozevarunendra: I will try with the firmware from github now, the other was from intel.com10:22
varunendravooze, good idea :)10:23
aristotelesfrotz47: yes i chose ubuntu because this is a low power computer and i've been very happy with lxde on my debian system.10:23
aristotelesfrotz47: i meant lubuntu10:23
frotz47aristoteles: from lubuntu website - Lubuntu Support is #Lubuntu on Freenode.net IRC10:23
aristotelesmy friend asked me to install ubuntu and i chose the lubuntu download in order to improve performance on low spec hardware.10:23
varunendravooze, in fact I would recommend to add your experience/problem to the thread I linked to.. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2178873)10:24
aristotelesfrotz47: thank you, noted.10:24
voozevarunendra: I see the only difference is that the firmware from intel is -8 and from the github its -710:25
voozevarunendra:  So i don't think that will make a big difference10:25
xjkxTrying to run eclipse it said I dont have a jre or a jdk, as I want to develop I suppose I want a jdk ? If so, what do I install ?10:26
varunendravooze, changing them is as easy as overwriting the file in /lib/firmware, so go ahead, try it.10:26
XenefungusSo what would you guys suggest as a CLI FTP client? it seems lftp, tnftp and yafc are the only active projects anymore, right?10:26
aristotelesXenefungus, you can do FTP with wget10:27
Xenefungusarietis: interesting10:27
_YankGreetings10:27
aristotelesXenefungus, perhaps this is offtopic, but wget ftp://user:pass@server/ works fine for me10:28
cfhowlett_Yank, greetings10:28
aristotelesXenefungus if you need to do push i just do 'apt-get install ftp' and use the program ftp.  although servers that support scp are certainly nicer.10:28
lvlephhow do I get xmodmap persistent after suspend and restart?10:29
Xenefungusarietis: yeah i just need to upload something really10:29
Xenefungusguess i'll give built in ftp a try then, thanks10:29
Blanco_Yop10:30
lvlephrsync works the best imo Xenefungus10:30
tomreynxjkx: default-jre10:30
lvlephbut I didn't catch what you really needed.10:30
xjkxThanks10:30
_YankIm having some problems with my SSH VPS. It seems that the bin and sbin folder has been deleted since I it returns me bash command not found to every command. Acutally only cd, cat, ls, tar, and other linux commands works. Even sudo or apt-get is not working !!10:30
tomreynxjkx: or default-jdk if you're about to develop java stuff10:30
voozevarunendra: omg, that worked :d10:30
bekks_Yank: then "ls -l /bin /sbin"10:31
voozereally weird10:31
varunendravooze, what's the speed now?10:31
Guest61902does the fork bomb still work10:31
voozevarunendra: like 80 :D10:31
tomreyn!paste | _Yank10:31
ubottu_Yank: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:31
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xjkxtomreyn: yes I want to develop android games and regular applications10:31
voozevarunendra: 105+ now10:31
_YankI know, Im a programmer and I already asked for help here10:32
tomreynxjkx: ok, good luck.10:32
varunendravooze, :D what all have we applied at the moment? (encryption, parameters, fw version, kernel version)10:32
xjkxtomreyn: just java-sdk will do ?10:32
voozeokay varunendra so before post my story to the forum :D10:32
tomreyn_Yank: okay, i wasn't aware10:32
voozevarunendra: i need to make the parameters permanent10:32
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varunendravooze, is this speed only reachable with the parameters?10:33
voozevarunendra: Now I just hope it won't drop the connection with 3.13 kernel10:33
tomreynxjkx: i don't know, you best check exlipse documentation10:33
voozevarunendra: let me try :) 2 secs10:33
xjkxtomreyn: alright thanks10:33
tomreynwelcome10:33
varunendravooze, just keep the firmware files handy, replace them if the speed drops after an update :)10:34
voozevarunendra: so first i do -rv and then -v right?10:34
lvlephhow do I get xmodmap to be persistent after suspend and restart? Also, why is it .xprofile isn't executed after login?10:34
Guest61902Dude, use a BSD Lisense, then you can make a Linux-BSD kernel10:34
_YankEven the ssh process isnt running, Im connecting to my VPS through the option my provider gives on the vps managing website10:35
_Yankhttp://pastebin.com/CR6BmMqg10:35
varunendravooze, yes. Should I explain in detail? So you know why three commands?10:35
Guest61902you would rule the owlrd10:35
cfhowlettGuest61902, obviously this is off-topic.   please stop10:35
Guest61902MAC OS X would be stupid10:35
bekks_Yank: So whats the output of "ls -ld /bin /sbin"?10:35
voozevarunendra: If you want, learning is always good :D10:35
_Yankhttp://pastebin.com/CR6BmMqg10:35
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bekks_Yank: So both directories exist, and your assumption is wrong then.10:35
_Yankwell10:36
bekks_Yank: How do you check wether ssh is running?10:36
lvlephYou would think after months I would get this problem fixed, but...10:36
lvlephI guess I could solve it by ditching lightdm in favor of GDM.10:36
varunendravooze, lag is terrible here on my side, got your msg just now...10:36
_YankI cant connect to it using SSH. Im using the VM machine option to connect to the VPS, like Im doing it mannually10:37
sasukehi guys,10:37
varunendravooze, the parameters are applied to the iwlwifi driver, but can be applied only after unloading --> reloading it. But it is used by iwlmvm, so can be unloaded until that one is removed first.10:37
cfhowlettsasuke, greetings10:38
sasukehi10:38
sasukei'm facing a problem, "nautilus  freeze when copying a file to external drive in ubuntu" can i get help on this10:38
tomreyn_Yank: sshd would be /usr/sbin/sshd10:38
tomreyn_Yank: how did you end up in this situation in the first place?10:39
_YankI dont know >.<10:39
voozevarunendra: oh okay :D what commands to do use to test it without parameters?10:39
varunendravooze, so we remove the "iwlmvm" first, it automatically unloads all its dependencies (including iwlwifi). Then we reload only iwlwifi first, with the desired parameters, then iwlmvm in the last. Hence 1st command removes iwlmvm+others 2nd : reloads iwlwifi, 3rd reloads iwlwifi10:39
tomreyn_Yank: are you the only administraotr (root access) on this system?10:39
_YankYes10:40
voozevarunendra: ahh, I see now :d10:40
varunendravooze, to test it without parameters, just unload/reload the iwlmvm (sudo modprobe -rv iwlmvm........ then ........ sudo modprobe -v iwlmvm)10:40
drmagoosasuke: do 'dmesg' and provide us the output via pastebin10:40
voozevarunendra: okay, Will try that now :)10:40
sasukedrmagoo, ok10:41
drmagoosasuke: that is open a terminal and type 'dmesg'10:41
tomreyn_Yank: so you installed this VPS a while ago, and it worked fine for a while, and now it doesn't? if so, what happened in between?10:41
varunendra*3rd reloads iwlmvm (sh***) :/10:41
_YankYes, but I dont know what happened... I think my provider has to do with it but they dont say anything10:41
tomreyn_Yank: you also wrote "it returns me bash command not found to every command", do you want to paste such in- and output on your terminal?10:41
lvlephhow do I get xmodmap to be persistent after suspend and restart? Also, why is it .xprofile isn't executed after login?10:42
voozevarunendra: okay , waiting 2 mins and then testing :)10:42
varunendravooze, yup. I'd be keen to know the difference (if any) :)10:42
_Yankhttp://pastebin.com/wXdqL5zL10:42
tomreyn_Yank: thanks. is there a reason why you work in / ?10:43
voozevarunendra: it seems its the same (80+) without10:43
voozevarunendra: So you think this also might fix the wifi drops right?10:44
_Yankwork in ?10:44
voozewith the newer kernel and all10:44
varunendravooze, that's good. Parameters should be used only when (if) needed.10:44
tomreyn_Yank: usually the root user would work in the /root/ directory, not in / (as you do)10:44
varunendravooze, if it drops after some time, try the "swcrypto=1" alone first.10:44
_Yankeven when i cd10:44
_Yanksame goe10:45
_Yankgoes*10:45
sasukedrmagoo, i am not getting anything on this o/p ... plz chk  "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6981049/"10:45
_YankBut that happens because im using VM console way10:45
varunendravooze, does "iwconfig" show any "invalid misc" or "Tx excessive retries" now?10:45
tomreyn_Yank: so you're connected via a serial console now? did the system boot normally or was it booted from a different installation, then chrooted onto your system?10:46
voozevarunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6981061/10:47
_Yanknormally i think10:47
RADDyominHello. I want to install Ubuntu and Debian on our school computers. How can I show that these systems are free when the license is checked by anybody?10:47
varunendravooze, that doesn't look good10:48
cfhowlettRADDyomin, paste a copy of the license on each box?10:48
_YankBRB10:48
_Yankwait guys10:48
voozevarunendra:  :/10:48
varunendravooze, if those numbers keep rising, try the parameters and see if they can help keeping it low10:49
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RADDyomincfhowlett, these systems are iso's burned into disks.10:49
drmagoosasuke: it looks like the drive is formated in Fat32 and seems to be corrupt... is this a new or old drive ?10:49
varunendravooze, also try - "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off"10:49
cfhowlettRADDyomin, paste a paper/cardboard copy of the license on each desk ... or make it the splash screen10:49
RADDyominAre there any stickers like Win-OEMs that I can stick on the computer?10:49
tester56is the following somehow possible: boot live image, then create preseed file and pass it to the installer, without rebooting?10:49
RADDyominthank you?10:50
RADDyomin^)10:50
cfhowlettRADDyomin, not for the license so far as I know...10:50
sasukedrmagoo, "http://imagebin.org/295164" i'm copying some songs to nexus4.. it hungs like this10:50
voozevarunendra: seems its the same after power off10:51
rannongasasuke: does nothing work or just this transfer10:52
cfhowlettsasuke, too much for one copy instance.  don't know of the issue is on the android or ubuntu side, but I've always had better success copying music in smaller batches.10:52
varunendravooze, does "iwconfig" show the Power Management as "off" now? It may change automatically (in which case, there are other possible ways to keep it off)10:52
sasukerannonga, nothing10:52
sasukethis is not the only transfer10:52
drmagoosasuke: if you look at the first pastebin, from line 1172 to 1423 shows the errors. is this a a 16gb thumbdrive or a harddrive?10:53
rannongadrmagoo: nexus410:53
voozevarunendra: oh yes, it says off10:53
VlanXI'm planning to run the "smartctl" command every 1 hour on so to keep an eye on my HDD temperature, I wonder if such a frequent check on the smart status could possibly be bad for the drive10:54
voozevarunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6981094/10:54
sasukedrmagoo, its my phone10:54
sasukefollowed this procedure "http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/mount-nexus-4-on-ubuntu" to mount the device10:54
cfhowlettsasuke, also you DID set your USB connection to media not camera, right?10:55
varunendravooze, another thing (that doesn't usually matter) : if a value is given after a colon (:), it is variable and may change. If it is after 'Equal' (=), it is forced and fixed. So the Power Management seems dynamic at the moment. :)10:56
sasukecfhowlett, how to check that?10:56
cfhowlettsasuke, look on your phone ... storage10:56
sasukecfhowlett, oh... that media device only10:57
sasukenot phone10:57
sasukenot camera*10:57
cfhowlettSashmo_, right10:57
voozevarunendra: ah okay :D I see the difference10:57
voozevarunendra: I'll just try to turn on 5Ghz Wifi insted of only 2.4 and see how that goes :D10:57
varunendravooze, as long as you are getting the high speeds, we can learn more from YOUR experience, and these conventions may not matter :)10:58
sasukeevern if it a single file which is more than 500mb more, the progess bar / nautilus freezes10:58
cfhowlettsasuke, if you have wifi, you can always try airdroid10:59
sasukecfhowlett, is there any better one.. without n/w10:59
sasukei mean by using cable11:00
sasukeis there any solution or procedure to follow11:00
sasukecfhowlett, its not only for phone, if i connected to external hd... facing the same issue11:01
cfhowlettsasuke, I'm on 12.04 so my setup required me to so some weird MTP configurations to get cable to work at all11:01
cfhowlettsasuke, but that last suggest something other than android at play ...11:01
sasuke:)11:01
rannongalol thats not good11:02
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sasukeis there some configuration need to be done while copying from ext4 to ntfs filesystem (i.e from ubuntu to pendrive/external hd)11:05
rannongasasuke i just mount it manually with ntfs-3g then unmount it when i'm finished11:06
ActionParsnipSasuke: the kernel handles the two file systems for you11:10
sasukerannonga, is copying is working for you .. with an ntfs partition11:11
rannongayeah11:11
sasukeActionParsnip, i dint get you ...11:11
voozevarunendra: okay thats strange.. the laptop can't see the 5Ghz Wifi, but my Android phone can11:12
sasukeActionParsnip, two file system means.. normally i will have ext4... other one is ntfs / fat 32 when i connected some externel device... Everyone will have the same right?11:13
sasukeplz correct me if i'm wrong11:13
ActionParsnipSasuke: the kenel handles the filesystem access, so when you access the mount point the system knows how to read the source and when the data is copied to the other filesy1stem it knows how to put the data on the partition in the right way11:13
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q0what's the hostname resolving command ?11:13
bekksq0: "dig"11:13
varunendravooze, which country are you in? Your "Regulatory Domain" settings seem to be at defaults (00) instead of being set to some specific country. That may be the reason11:14
ActionParsnipQ0: ping, dig, nslookup11:14
voozevarunendra: I'm in Denmark11:14
voozevarunendra: I have selected the right country in the router11:14
ActionParsnipVooze: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue11:16
varunendravooze, but the driver doesn't seem to have recognized the setting : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6980785/  (notice the "iw reg get" section)11:16
sasukeActionParsnip, ok.. can you tell me how can i find a solution11:16
voozevarunendra:  okay nevermind, it just showed up after like 5 mins.. pretty weird11:17
sasukeActionParsnip, i 'm facing problem while transferring when i mount an externel device (phone/pendrive/external hd)11:17
ActionParsnipSasuke: when you finish with the USB drive, do you use the safe removal feature or do you just pull it out?11:17
voozea bit speed increase I think maybe.. So thats good :)11:17
varunendravooze, what does "iw reg get" show now? Country code "DK" ?? or still "00"?11:17
sasukei 'l unmount in gui11:17
voozevarunendra: still 0011:18
ActionParsnipSasuke: and in Windows too?11:18
klloveallHi there everyone! So, I was planning to go to bed and watch some TV from my media server when it can't connect. I come to it and try to turn it on and am greeted with a lovely "Kernel panic" message. I thought it was perhaps a HDD failing (they're in a RAID) so I unplugged the one it was trying to read from directly before the kernel panic and it just moved to another HDD. I'm going to take a guess that it's probably the contro11:18
klloveallller/mobo that's gone bad rather than both HDD's. Is this a good conclusion or is there something more I can look for to give me a definite answer?11:18
sasukeno.. i'm not using windows. Infact i dont have any windows systme11:18
ActionParsnipSasuke: then why use NTFS?11:18
cfhowlett?? ^^^ exactly!11:18
unitypunkhey..11:19
rannongahi unitypunk11:19
unitypunkso i generated a pair of rsa keys for my ssh server11:19
bekksklloveall: Why do you think its a harddisk or controller failure?11:19
bekksklloveall: Any indicators on that, or just a wild guess?11:19
unitypunkbut when i copy my pub one to a client11:19
unitypunki get permission denied (publickey).11:19
unitypunkwhat am i doing wrong?11:20
varunendravooze, if you are connected and the traffic is on, then maybe it doesn't matter, but if you wish, you may try forcing your country RegDomain settings. I'm not sure if that'll make any difference or not.11:20
voozevarunendra: I think its good for now. its seems pretty stable with 5Ghz11:20
sasuke:) i dont know about fs in nexus 4, pendrive/HD (if its mine i can change fs to ext 3 but some time i will be using my frnds )11:20
voozehttp://www.speedtest.net/my-result/332610159411:20
Da_SokkHi. I just got a school assignment, asking me to explain chroot and the principles behind it. Does anyone have any clue what these principles might refer to ?11:21
cfhowlett!chroot11:21
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot11:21
klloveallbekks: Because that's what the kernel is interacting with right before it panics and it says "end_request: critical target error, dev sde, sector 1224912". Before it had the same message but sdb instead and a different sector #.11:21
varunendravooze, that's the only thing that matters in the last :D11:21
ActionParsnipunitypunk: does your user have read access to the key file?11:21
unitypunkActionParsnip, the private file? or pub?11:21
bekksklloveall: So most likely your disks sdb and sde are in question. Boot a live cd and investigate the health status of the disks in question, using smartctl11:22
ActionParsnipunitypunk: on the server, does the user you connec as have read access to the file11:22
sasukeActionParsnip, cfhowlett : Thanks i will change fs for pendrive/ hd. but what about ph (nexus 4). Everytime i cant use airdroid for transfering.11:22
unitypunkto what file, thats part of my confusin, the public or private?11:22
ActionParsnipunitypunk: setting chmod to 600 then chowning to youruser.youruser will help security11:22
voozevarunendra: indeed it it! Well.. REALLY THANK YOU, for your patience with me.. thats really awesome.. I have saved the log etc. for use maybe later11:23
unitypunktheyre r/o11:23
unitypunkfor the user11:23
unitypunkboth actually.11:23
ActionParsnipVooze: sweet connection bro11:23
voozeActionParsnip:  thank you :D11:23
varunendravooze, we are hungry for feedbacks, so I should thank YOU :D11:23
ActionParsnipunitypunk: try sshing with verbose option on the client11:23
voozevarunendra: I will post the story to the UF as promised :)11:24
ActionParsnipunitypunk: ssh -v user@server11:24
cfhowlettsasuke, I've not figured out the transfer issue - sorry11:24
varunendravooze, in fact I'm about to shoot an email to chili555 with our experience here.. with all the details you provided. :)11:24
klloveallbekks: it only changed after I unplugged one of the drives. I find it unlikely that both of them would have failed at the same time.11:24
bekksklloveall: I find it very likely that drives start to fail in a short amount of time.11:25
voozevarunendra: oh okay, thats awesome :)11:25
bekksklloveall: Investigate the health status of all dives.11:25
bekks*drives11:25
sasukecfhowlett, no worries.. thank u .. atleast i got some solution ... thanks to you guys... i will change fs for external usb/hd11:25
ActionParsnipklloveall: if you reconnect the drive it should rebuild the array (Assuming you arent using software raid)11:26
varunendravooze, I suggest you test it across a few reboots, and maybe post after an experience of a day or two.11:26
unitypunkActionParsnip, it attempts to send the publickey from /home/user/.ssh/id_rsa11:26
ActionParsnipunitypunk: does your user have read access to that file?11:27
voozevarunendra: I will :) just post to UF or to you here?11:27
klloveallbekks: I'll give that a shot tomorrow, I have no idea where a flash drive is.11:27
_YankIm back11:27
theadminHello everyone. I am having trouble with Ubuntu One for two days now, it's not syncing anything. u1sdtool --current-transfers is empty, new files aren't visible on the website. u1sdtool --waiting lists the entries, but they never get processed.11:28
varunendravooze, UF, the same thread so chili555 knows. I have already subscribed to it.11:28
voozevarunendra: will do! :)11:28
klloveallActionParsnip: It's a software raid done through mdadm. However, the OS is on a flashdrive so the raid is not needed to boot.11:28
bekksklloveall: Then you dont need a livecd, but you can use your OS.11:29
varunendravooze, thanks for the interest :)11:29
ActionParsnipklloveall: as long as it can be unmounted, you can work on it11:29
unitypunkActionParsnip, there is only id_rsa.pub on the client11:29
ActionParsnipunitypunk: you need the private key on the client and your public key on the server. I suggest you remove both and start over. There are videos on youtube to help set it up.11:31
unitypunkActionParsnip, lol wtf that sounds backwards.. so i have to give the private file to any clients.. derp.11:32
unitypunkthats the issue for sure.11:32
mshawit's _their_ key, not yours :)11:32
_Yankack11:34
_Yanktomreyn: Im back11:34
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unitypunkActionParsnip, thanks, the permissions of the key seem to be getting warped somewhere.11:36
unitypunkchmoding to 600 fixed it up right.11:37
_YankGuys I would like to know how can I transfer a tar.gz file using ssh with putty. Actually my VPS sftp is not working11:38
theadmin_Yank: SFTP and SSH are the same thing. If SFTP doesn't work, SSH file transfer won't either.11:39
_YankActually I dont know how I can reply this11:40
_YankActually SSH is not working11:40
_YankIm using a serial console (VM Console)11:40
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:40
theadmin_Yank: Ah. What OS does your VPS run? If it's Ubuntu, you just need to "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" to get SSH/SFTP up11:40
I4iswww.ubuntu.com home of the gods11:41
_YankI cant use any command11:41
I4is_YankieDoodle11:41
mshaw_Yank: what does echo $PATH say?11:41
_YankIt returns me "bash: command not found" to every single command11:41
_YankIve checked that11:41
_YankIt seems to be correct11:41
mshawcan you do, /usr/bin/ssh ?11:42
theadmin_Yank: Oh dear, that's a mess... You probably need to ask your VPS provider to reset the VPS, it's broken. Maybe ask them to backup the data if it's got important things on it.11:42
I4isecho /home/user/mshaw/$path11:42
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_YankThats the problem... I need my files first11:42
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_YankI compressed my home folder into a tar.gz file11:42
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_YankI opened the tar.gz file using cat command in order to past it in a tar.gz file anywhere in my computer11:43
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hassan_Oh Crap!11:43
_Yankpast the text11:43
theadmin_Yank: That won't work...11:43
_Yankkinda crazy11:43
hassan_Come on! give me the fucking answer. My dash is black. :(11:43
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I4ishassan_: calm down11:43
mshawwait, so cat, tar and gz work?11:43
_Yankyea11:43
_Yankhttp://pastebin.com/wXdqL5zL11:43
mshawyou keep showing that11:44
mshawso cat, gz and tar work?11:44
diecastartsheya all. where would i found the file that would I can turn off the auto login. using lubuntu if that in a different spot then ubuntu11:44
theadmin_Yank: But, here's what will! Open the file with vi, then type :%!xxd and copy the result, then open it (again, with vim) on another machine and type :%!xxd -r and :wq11:44
hassan_Fuck it!11:44
mshaw_Yank: pastebin: ls /usr/bin11:44
_YankOk Ok :D11:44
* I4is drags theadminout back11:45
theadmin_Yank: Although that's a rubbish method, but that would work11:45
_Yank1 thing11:45
_YankI have not vi >.>11:45
mshaweven better, pastebin: ls -al /usr/bin11:45
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:45
I4issudo apt-get install vi11:45
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:45
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:45
_Yankl4is11:45
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:45
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:45
theadminhassan_: Yeah... Sounds like something with video drivers11:45
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:45
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:45
theadminhassan_: STOP SPAMMING THE CHANNEL11:45
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:45
theadmin!ops11:45
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hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:46
jatt!flood11:46
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:46
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mshawhassan_: holy shit shut the fuck up11:46
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:46
Seveashassan_: go fuck off.11:46
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:46
diecastartsquit flooring man11:46
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:46
hassan_Hey Guys! i have a problem in ubuntu 13.10. The Dash is completely black.11:46
diecastartsflooding11:46
hassan_Im Sorry11:46
Seveashassan_: go away.11:46
Seveasyou lost all chance for support11:46
theadminhassan_: ...okay. As I said, check for video drivers for your card11:46
_Yankl4is: /bin/usr path not found11:46
hassan_Im Really Really Sorry.11:46
theadmin_Yank: Not /bin/usr, /usr/bin11:46
mshaw_Yank: i didn't say /bin/usr11:46
mshaw/usr/bin11:46
* I4is DRAGS Seveas: to the back of the building and throws them into the trash can11:46
_Yankkk11:46
_Yankeven that11:47
_Yankreturns the samething11:47
mshaw_Yank: so again, gz and tar work for you?11:47
hassan_OK! i've intel graphics card.11:47
_Yankyes...11:47
_Yankhttp://pastebin.com/wXdqL5zL11:47
_Yankeverything there works11:47
mshaw_Yank: which gz11:47
mshawand that paste shows nothing11:47
theadminhassan_: You can usually find extra drivers by going to System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional drivers11:47
mshawtype: which gz11:47
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_Yanknot gz11:48
I4istheadmin:  is the man11:48
_Yankonly tar11:48
mshawokay, then type: which tar11:48
hassan_It doesnt work.11:48
niuniu~11:48
klloveallbekks/: Did you reply? I ran downstairs to get a drink and when I came back my screen was filled with people quitting messages.11:48
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theadminhassan_: Wuh. Is it one of the fancy intel/nvidia hybrid cards?11:48
hassan_i Dunno.11:48
_Yankmshaw: returns /bin/tar11:48
nerphassan_: what kind of computer are you using?11:49
theadminhassan_: Hit Ctrl+Alt+T, type "lspci | grep VGA", press Enter and pastebin the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com, then link me11:49
diecastartsI hae one of the that type of video chips11:49
mshaw_Yank: can you type: mount /usr/bin11:49
hassan_I Quit.11:49
diecastartsWait11:49
diecastartshassan_, what was the problem11:49
diecastartsblack screen on boot11:50
_Yankmshaw: returns me "mount: can't find /usr/bin in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"11:50
theadmindiecastarts: Black dash11:50
diecastarts??11:50
diecastartslaptop?11:50
mshawyou need to talk to your hosting company11:50
hassan_The Dash is black. but when i change the wallpaper. it comes to normal.11:50
mshawand if you signed up for one that doesn't do backups, i pity you11:50
I4isok11:50
I4ishassan_:  sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade -y; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y11:50
hassan_Is it working???11:51
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diecastartsoh ok i am not sure how to help ya sorry. sounds like same problem i was having before.11:51
I4isenjoy hope that helps11:51
_Yankcant I do what theadmin using nano instead of vim11:52
I4isi figured it out11:52
I4isi paste him cmd11:52
diecastartsit sounds like before i meant there sorry.11:52
I4issudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade -y; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y11:52
nerphassan_: is the computer a laptop?11:52
I4isfor hassan_11:52
hassan_Desktop11:52
_Yankcant I do what theadmin said using nano instead of vi ? *11:52
theadmin_Yank: Well, vim isn't exactly necessary for this... Technically, all you need is the xxd command. I dunno why I used vim for example :D11:52
theadminMaybe because I do it that way sometimes myself >_>11:52
hassan_How can i trust this ppa??11:53
I4isits from ubuntus site?11:53
I4is...11:53
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nerphassan_: you are making it really hard for people to help you11:53
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* I4is is just being nice :(11:54
hassan_I have changed my DE to Cinnamon. :)11:54
theadmin_Yank: "xxd infile outfile" would take infile and turn it into hex, then dump it to outfile. xxd -r infile outfile would do the reverse, take the hex codes from infile, and turn them into binary data in outfile.11:54
hassan_Now! im happy.11:54
* I4is cries on nerp: 's shoulder11:54
diecastartsok so seeing some flooded before my question was push up too fast... I need to know where i can turn off auto logging setting11:54
theadmindiecastarts: logging?11:54
diecastartsyes11:54
nerpI4is: lol it's ok, you did your best.11:54
_Yankxxd command not found11:54
theadmindiecastarts: ...I don't see why you would. If logs take too much disk space, you should install logrotate, that will fix the problem11:54
_YankThis can be stupid but cant I write mannually the xxd to bin folder11:55
I4isi <3 buntu11:55
hassan_Me Too.11:55
diecastartstheadmin, the problem i been having is that it was set on from before. but what happens now after a small crash it goes to the logging screen.. but go to login in to the normal user account it flashes black and goes right back tot he login11:55
theadmin_Yank: Manually? It's not too possible to write binary data manually other than using a hex/binary editor11:56
_Yankoh11:56
diecastartsbut if i user the guest accoutn no problem or a different DE like openbox11:56
I4isnerp: how is your morning/night?11:56
theadmindiecastarts: Ah. Auto LOGIN, not logging :D That should be simple, what is your Ubuntu version?11:56
cityLightshi , How can I see the changelog for flashplugin-installer_11.2.202.3 ?11:56
diecastartstheadmin, Lubuntu 13.1011:57
hassan_Any Elementary lover??11:57
nerpI4is: Pretty good, just poking around on the intertubes, you?11:57
theadmindiecastarts: Great, then do "sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" and remove the autologin-user line11:58
I4isnerp: ev training :P11:58
nerpI4is: ev?11:58
I4isyupp11:58
theadmindiecastarts: (and save the file)11:58
diecastartsremove that whole line of code???11:59
theadmindiecastarts: Yes, it should be something like autologin-user=your-username-here11:59
glitsj16cityLights: apt-get changelog <package> will show that11:59
theadmindiecastarts: Just remove that.11:59
diecastartstheadmin, yes11:59
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cityLightsglitsj16: AttributeError: ControlStanza instance has no attribute 'Package'12:00
diecastartstheadmin, ok but how to save from that is it the writeout option12:01
glitsj16cityLights: i was unclear, you need to exchange <package> for the actual package name, flashplugin-installer in this case12:01
diecastarts^O12:01
diecastartscrtl O12:01
theadmindiecastarts: Yes, press Ctrl-O12:01
diecastartskk going to test that12:02
cityLightsglitsj16, thanks12:03
cityLightsapt-listchanges seems broken12:03
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I4isnerp:  you code12:03
nerpI4is: not much, but I am trying to teach myself.12:04
I4isnerp:  if you need a partner i can help ive be coding for ever12:04
nerpI4is: awesome what languages do you use mostly?12:05
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I4isnerp:  web lang: php mysql perl html css html5 js jsquery asp.net python (cgi rarely) also for programming i use c# c++ ruby ruby on rails and more...12:06
dog-food_will ubuntu ruin my ssd if I use swap12:07
diecastartsDarn still not working. i am out of idea's to fix that login problem12:07
bekksdog-food_: No.12:07
nerpI4is: nice, that's a solid collection lol12:07
Da_SokkHi. I just got a school assignment, asking me to explain chroot and the principles behind it. Does anyone have any clue what these principles might refer to ?12:07
I4isnerp:  ty :) also love LUA12:07
I4iscan i pm you nerp12:07
nerpI4is: sure12:08
theadminHey I code too :D12:08
I4is:D12:08
theadminBut anyway, this is getting offtopic.12:08
I4is<3 theadmin12:08
theadminDa_Sokk: Principles is a highly broad term, sadly. You can go starting to explain what a filesystem is, because it's part of the chroot concept :/12:09
diecastartstheadmin, hate the bug ya again but you the backstory.. have an idea about my login repeating problem12:09
cityLightsNew upstream release 11.2.202.341 : debian/flashplugin-installer.{config,postinst},12:09
cityLightswhat does this mean?12:09
cityLightswhy is flash updated , if it is no longer supported by adobe?12:09
bekkscityLights: that debian/flashplugin-installer.{config,postinst} have changed.12:09
theadmindiecastarts: Not really, it seems like something's wrong with the DE configuration12:09
theadmincityLights: Um, it's still supported. They release bugfixes and security updates, just not add any new "features" to their Linux builds12:09
theadmin(apart from Chrome)12:10
bekkscityLights: flash itself has not changed, just two files in the .deb configuration.12:10
cityLightswell, I am looking in /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-installer.config12:11
cityLightsI see no "bug fix"12:11
diecastartstheadmin, yeah. I was trying to close out a game i think it changed the res to odd one.. could see everything but everything was to big.. so i tried to do shutdown and reboot and then this started.12:11
theadmindiecastarts: wuh... yeah, that happens with some games12:11
bekkscityLights: Both files debian/flashplugin-installer.{config,postinst} are not provided by Adobe, but the .deb package maintainer. And he/she changed both files.12:11
theadmindiecastarts: (or fullscreen apps in general)12:11
theadminUnfortunately, I have no idea how to fix this though :(12:12
diecastartstheadmin, should i pastebin the config?12:12
theadmindiecastarts: Of what?12:12
petzuphy12:13
petzupi have installed ubuntu 13.10, but have hibernate problem12:13
petzupwhen i try s2disk it just stuck and screen doesnt turn off12:13
ToaNiiAnyone has experience install ubuntu on Mac?12:13
diecastartswell the problem is on my normal DE i cannot login with my normal user. just the guest account. it that or i have to use the open DE to be able to login.12:14
theadmindiecastarts: Yeah, I understand that. What is your "normal" DE?12:14
diecastartsopenbox I meant sorry12:14
diecastartsLubuntu12:14
cfhowlett!mac|ToaNii,12:15
ubottuToaNii,: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages12:15
trinodequick question, power usage is different between two kernels massively, how do I see what's changed between the two? packages?12:15
trinode(it's significant 11W vs 25W)12:15
theadmindiecastarts: LXDE, that is. Hrm. I have no idea where that stores configs, so these paths are wild guesses, but still. Log in anyway you can to your own user account and run: rm -r ~/.lxde ~/.lxde4 ~/.config/lxde ~/.config/lxde4 -- it is likely to report "file not found" for some of these, at least.12:15
theadmindiecastarts: (I am just guessing where it stores the configs)12:15
ToaNiicfhowlett: thanks but actually i've gone through the whole internet but no answer.12:16
theadmindiecastarts: If I guessed right, it should reset the DE to default and you'll be fine :D12:16
diecastartstheadmin, K thanks alot . been a few days of this lol12:16
diecastartstheadmin, all 4 cannotfind12:17
petzupsoo anyone have ideas about hibernation?12:18
theadmindiecastarts: Damn... Well, hm.12:18
diecastartsone sec12:18
theadmindiecastarts: rm -r ~/.config/lxsession/12:18
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theadmindiecastarts: This should help.12:18
diecastartsyeah was going to say all the stuff i seen was all in the .config12:19
diecastartsk going to try that12:19
trinode#ubuntu+1 is invite only?12:20
cfhowletttrinode, it is not12:21
cfhowlettanyone can /join12:21
trinodethat was weird12:21
trinodeI was instantly kicked the first time, it said it was inv only12:22
theadmintrinode: Maybe requires registration12:22
trinodeworked now though12:22
cfhowlettglitch in the matrix12:22
theadminOh, okay, heh12:22
diecastartstheadmin, Yep everything good now. have to change a few setting again but Thanks a ton12:22
theadmindiecastarts: That's great :)12:22
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maksimkaahello, how can I know which version of php will be the default on the upcoming ubuntu LTS ?12:34
voozevarunendra: After some reboots etc. I have discovered that the 5Ghz network takes a lot longer to show up, after reboot, where the 2.4Ghz is instant (like it connects on the login screen) I would say the 5Ghz takes maybe 1-2 mins.. Do you have any idea what could cause this?12:35
cfhowlettmaksimkaa, see the #ubuntu+1 channel for trusty discussions12:35
varunendravooze, is it 2.4 + 5 GHz mixed mode or 5 GHz alone?12:36
chuck__hello12:36
xjkxI installed default-jdk and eclipse ran fine now, but I installed  ADT plugin for android development, now eclipse wants me to tell the sdk location, but I dont know12:36
cfhowlettchuck__, greetings12:36
voozevarunendra: its 5Ghz alone. I have 2 networks in the house. one of each12:36
amsaHello all :)12:36
theadminxjkx: You need the Android SDK as well.12:36
chuck__cfho... hi12:36
browndawgHey. I have a certain port forwarded in my router for transmission & qbittorrent. I just closed qbittorrent & no other torrent clients are running, but nethogs shows quite a few open connections from different computers on 192.168.1.2:1892. Is this normal? Don't know too much about networks.12:36
chuck__i have a linux ubuntu studio12:37
xjkxtheadmin: oh, thanks12:37
cfhowlettchuck__, same here 12.0412:37
chuck__no, 13.1012:37
cfhowlettchuck__, so /join #ubuntustudio for help12:37
chuck__for creative humans ;)12:37
varunendravooze, I can think of only two experiments, not sure of the cause12:38
browndawgor if someone could help me with investigating this properly...12:38
chuck__and my comp is too slow...12:38
cfhowlettchuck__, #ubuntustudio channel12:38
chuck__ok thx12:39
georoot<browndawg> try to check on with wireshark12:39
chuck__oh, i have a question12:39
cfhowlettchuck__, ask12:40
chuck__where i can find polish channel ?12:40
browndawggeoroot: Any cli programs?12:40
cfhowlett!pl|chuck__,12:40
ubottuchuck__,: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.12:40
chuck__dzięki ;)12:40
voozevarunendra: did you say somthing after? the Wifi just crashed :/12:41
georoot<browndawg> u may use tshark http://www.wireshark.org/docs/man-pages/tshark.html12:42
varunendravooze, and I am experiencing serious lag :)12:42
varunendravooze, I said - <varunendra> vooze, I can think of only two experiments, not sure of the cause12:42
I4istheadmin: you awake12:43
theadminI4is: Quite.12:43
browndawggeoroot: Why not just tcpdump?12:43
I4isyou try or like LUA theadmin12:44
theadminI4is: Tried a bit, didn't enjoy much12:44
georootuse that i never used it so cant vouch for it12:44
browndawggeoroot: Care to look at tcpdump output if I paste it somewhere?12:45
voozevarunendra: For the fun of it, I will just try 14.04 daily iso and see how the wifi works on that :)12:46
georootsure but i just looked it generates lots of data so pls be specific only to paste the usefull ones12:46
antonio999999999!list12:48
ubottuantonio999999999: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:48
varunendravooze, if the "swcrypto=1" option didn't have any bad effects, you should try making it permanent and see if it helps connecting quickly on 5 GHz. Reverting would be as easy as deleting a line or an entire file.12:49
voozehmm good varunendra I'll try that :)12:50
varunendravooze, I believe Ubuntu 13.04 and later already have an "iwlwifi.conf" file in /etc/modprobe.d. That is the file where you should add a single line (without quotes) : "options iwlwifi swcrypto=1"12:51
stefanott\list12:52
varunendravooze, that will make the "swcrypto=1" parameter permanent so that it loads at startup. To revert, simply delete the line12:52
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cfhowlett!list>stefanott,12:53
varunendravooze, the other thing that you may (probably should) try is to force your country code on regdomain settings by adding a command "iw reg set DK" to your /etc/rc.local file (above the line "exit 0")12:54
Evilmaxthe sudo users are of the root group?12:56
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wthielenwhere can i feedback on the Ubuntu Phone installation document (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install)13:00
Anupkumarhi, I am using ubuntu 13.04. If i want to install the mac theme completely what should I do?13:01
Anupkumarit must replace the above panel13:01
cfhowlettAnupkumar, 13.04 has reached end of life and is not supported.  upgrade13:01
theadminEvilmax: No, the "sudo" group.13:02
theadminEvilmax: (or the "admin" group in some older versions)13:02
cfhowlettAnupkumar, install the theme through ubuntu software center - point and click13:02
cfhowlett!phone|wthielen,13:02
ubottuwthielen,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch13:02
Anupkumarcfhowlett: but for me the graphic problem will be there if I upgrade to saycy salamender13:02
wthielenthanks, just joined #ubuntu-touch13:02
Anupkumarcfhowlett: will it replace the entire unity?13:03
Anupkumarif I install it from the software center13:03
cfhowlett!nounity|Anupku13:03
ubottuAnupku: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 and up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic13:03
cfhowlettAnupkumar, I don't know as I don't use unity13:04
hello123hello13:11
hello123people i need help13:12
hello123any one online?13:12
nagarjuna_hi13:12
hello123hey nagarjuna13:12
nagarjuna_hey13:12
hello123i needed help13:13
hello123i have ubuntu 12.0413:13
nagarjuna_:) i will try to help13:13
nagarjuna_if i know13:13
hello123i have 6 x 4tb hdd13:13
cypher-neoExplain the problem13:13
hello123but in /home only 3.9tb available13:13
varunendraAnupkumar, have you already seen any Mac theme?13:13
hello123any one?13:14
nagarjuna_use "sudo fdisk -l" and check13:14
Anupkumarvarunendra: no13:14
hello123wait i will send here pic13:14
hello123http://someimage.com/no9iBmO13:15
varunendrahello123, post here the pastebin link to the output of "parted -l".  You may have to install it first (sudo apt-get install parted)13:15
hello123varundera ok13:15
varunendraAnupkumar, what is your idea of 'Mac theme'? The Dock?13:16
hello123http://pastebin.com/sFctEqAU13:17
Anupkumarvarunendra: including the panel also13:17
Anupkumarvarunendra: I think we can get the panel from cairo dock13:17
Anupkumarvarunendra: but i have no idea about the panel13:18
varunendraAnupkumar, Cairo dock offers a complete DE also. You can choose to log into it at the login screen13:18
trijntje_hello123: that makes sense, you only have 4TB in home because you put home on only one disk13:18
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hello123my friend says put it in raid 5 array all disks13:19
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hello123but i dont know how to do i am new to linux13:19
varunendraAnupkumar, the one I have tried (quite some time ago) offered a Mac like dock, and gnome 2 like upper panel (only more aesthetic)13:19
hello123actually raid 1 array is working13:19
Anupkumarvarunendra: how can we do that?13:19
trijntje_hello123: have your friends do it for you ;)13:19
hello123he is not ready to do it13:19
trijntje_hello123: why do you want to use raid anyway, what kind of pc is it and what do you want to use it for?13:20
griszahey, guys i starting programming in java, whats is the best book for study ? :D13:21
hello123its server13:21
varunendraAnupkumar, just install cairo-dock. Then at the login screen, click at the Ubuntu logo at the top-right corner of the box where you enter your login id/pw. It should expand into a list of available DEs13:21
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hello123i need in /home 24tb13:22
yash069hello123: sudo mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sda13:22
yash069hello123: sudo mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdb13:22
yash069hello123: sudo mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdc13:22
yash069hello123: sudo mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdd13:22
hello123yash you need output?13:22
hello123mdadm: Couldn't open /dev/sda for write - not zeroing13:22
hello123yash06913:23
yash069no this will make drives forget RAID by zeroing out their md superblocks13:23
hello123mdadm: Couldn't open /dev/sda for write - not zeroing13:23
trijntje_yash069: don't just put dangerous commands in chat without explanation please13:23
yash069:o13:23
yash069u should unmount those drives first13:23
yash069sorry13:24
hello123:(13:24
hello123there is no mount point in fstab13:24
wthielenand dont trust everyone on chat, either :)13:24
hello123any idea?13:25
resc_user_2391hi13:26
hello123hi13:26
griszahi13:27
yash069hello123: seems to me an ovh server, would u mind re-installing ubuntu with raid disabled13:27
yash069set raid to 013:27
resc_user_2391i seem to be locked out of ubuntu13:27
grabielonesalutare\13:27
yash069hello123: http://help.ovh.co.uk/RaidSoft use this guide13:28
resc_user_2391i enter my password and it trys to log me in but kicks me right back to the login page13:28
yash069hello123: ?13:28
resc_user_2391i have even reset my password in recovery and it does the same thing13:29
varunendraresc_user_2391, can you log into virtual tty with Ctrl-Alt-F1 (or F2,F3 etc)13:29
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resc_user_2391im dual booted and im getting the blue screen in window13:29
voozevarunendra: so that really did not help.. either 14.04 daily or with the parameter.. The fun thing I found was that 14.04 had the firmware from intel (latest -8, da gave 1mbit) and the -7.13:30
voozevarunendra: it still takes alot of time and there is often problems connecting to 5Ghz.. Maybe I will just wait until intel fix it and use 2.4 until then13:30
resc_user_2391ubuntu wont let me login13:31
varunendravooze, did you also try the "iw reg set DK" command?13:31
resc_user_2391only guest access13:31
voozevarunendra: oh no, I forgot about that, 2 secs :)13:31
resc_user_2391im new to linux13:31
varunendraresc_user_2391, not even with Ctrl-Alt-F1 ?13:31
voozevarunendra: Is that permanent, so i can try after reboot?13:32
resc_user_2391when would i put that in13:32
resc_user_2391im new like a few months new13:32
resc_user_2391lol13:32
yeatsresc_user_2391: try it now13:32
varunendraresc_user_2391, when you are on the login screen, and press Ctrl-Alt-F1 keys, you should get a black command line screen. To get back to GUI, you'll have to press Ctrl-Alt-F713:33
resc_user_2391k thanks13:33
resc_user_2391be back if it doesnt work13:33
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ArceyeIs there a way to turn off the ubuntu desktop gui and turn it back on again without rebooting ?13:37
shankeyhello13:37
perttuyes13:37
Arceyeperttu, can you tell me how ?13:37
wiebelsHow can I change the mount options on my primary partion (OS), /etc/fstab? I want to disable barriers as it doesnt work with my SSD13:37
shankeyi am having issue with amd graphics drivers13:37
perttujust press alt+f213:37
cfhowlettshankey, greetings13:37
nagarjuna_Arceye, try this "pkill -9 X"13:37
wthielenArceye: ctrl-alt-backspace13:37
perttuand command sudo service lightdm stop13:38
perttuand the start again13:38
wthielens/stop/restart/ actually13:38
wthielenor ctrl-alt-backspace, does the same thing13:39
tomreynwiebels: sudo editor /etc/fstab13:39
Arceyewthielen, ctrl-alt-backspace kills the gui ?13:39
shankeywhenever i install amd catalyst drivers unity panel doesnt start. and even ubuntu resolution is very low.13:39
wthielenyea13:39
wthielenand restarts it13:39
wiebelstomreyn thanks, thats what i thought, just wanted to be sure13:39
Arceyewthielen,  let me try that :)13:39
voozevarunendra: that had no effect :/ guess I'll wait for Intel to fix it :)13:40
wthielensure :)13:40
tomreynwiebels: also "man 5 fstab"13:40
varunendraArceye, another option - Ctrl-Alt-F1 through F6, to return to GUI - Ctrl-Alt-F7. This will leave your GUI session running in the background, just change the screen from GUI to CLI13:40
Arceyewthielen, ctrl-alt-backspace does nothing :(13:40
wthielenoh..13:40
wthielenhere it works..13:40
varunendravooze, looks like the only option we are left with now anyway :)13:40
jKlausGah.. I can't seem to update any packages on my ubuntu server13:41
wthielenbeen using it for 15 years13:41
tomreynwiebels: keep in mind that editing /etc/fstab makes changes permanent (until you edit it again or mount manually supplying different mount options), so maybe you want to test it first.13:41
jKlausanyone decent with debugging this sort of thing?13:41
jKlaushttp://pastebin.com/7vmdpBmc13:41
voozevarunendra: yeah :/ guess I will have to live with 80mbit... Of those first world problems.. :D13:41
wthielenanyway, zzz (GMT+9 here)13:41
voozeof = oh *13:41
varunendra:)13:41
Millinderhey13:41
Millinderanybody know wht omegle is?13:42
ArceyeI'll explain what I want to do and it may help better.13:42
wiebelstomreyn yes, I am aware of that. I am just adding barrier=0 to my /dev/sda <-- I have a UPS and I am encountering weird issues with my jbd2/sda IO rate13:42
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cfhowlett!info omegle13:42
Millinderanybody?13:42
ubottuPackage omegle does not exist in saucy13:42
MillinderI want to know if I do wrong13:42
Guest62821anyone have a tuto for the BT5R313:42
Millinderif a girl show herself to me on site like omegle, do I do wrong?13:42
Millinderor I'm not blamed?13:42
tomreynwiebels: maybe partitions aren't aligned properly?13:42
cfhowlettMillinder, wrong channel, off topic13:42
Millinder?13:42
ArceyeI want to build a game server with web and database,   but I need to be able to use desktop13:43
Millinderanswer plz13:43
cfhowlett!ot|Millinder,13:43
ubottuMillinder,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:43
Millinderlmao13:43
lvlephhow do I change suspend hooks? Specifically, I need to run a script after resuming from suspend.13:43
Millinderok here is some on topic for you13:43
ArceyeHowever I only need the desktop to cinfigure things then I would like to stop it running when not needed13:43
Millinderwhen ubuntu and kubuntu used to send live cd to people, I ordered maybe 200-300 in many parts and used all this shit cd as frisbee ^^13:43
jKlauscan anyone help me get my system updating again?13:43
Millinderno wonder canonical dont do that cd anymore for free hahahahahaaa13:43
wiebelstomreyn I have no clue, it is a NAS with 12.04LTS on SSD and 2x1TB in Raid1. On filetransfer the speed fluctuates a lot (even pv / cp from SSD to SSD) and I am spotting a lot of 99.99% IO with iotop13:44
cfhowlettDJones, thank you.13:44
resc_user_2374i cant get into ubunto13:44
resc_user_2374ubuntu13:44
cfhowlett!details|resc_user_2374,13:44
ubotturesc_user_2374,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:44
tomreynwiebels: hmm yeah this doesn't sound good. did you inspect the kernel log?13:45
resc_user_2374i tried cntl+alt+f1 and i dont know what to do after13:45
lvlephI must be invisible! Every question I have asked in here for the last two months gets ignored.13:45
jKlausDJones, good man13:45
wiebelstomreyn I checked my dmesg, nothing in kernel log13:45
resc_user_2374i out in my password and it kicks me right back to the login page13:45
jKlausCan anyone point me a direction to start debugging my package manager issues?13:46
resc_user_2374put13:46
cfhowlettresc_user_2374, can you login to guest?13:46
resc_user_2374yes and that is it13:46
wiebelstomreyn the jdb2/sda process seems to be over-active, as is the flush process13:46
jKlausOr is it likely so screwed up I should just install a new OS?13:46
cfhowlettresc_user_2374, seen a few of these come up today.  did it EVER login?  what did you change?13:46
varunendraresc_user_2374, on that screen (ctrl-alt-F1) you had to enter your user id first, then password. Did you do it that way?13:47
resc_user_2374no it triees and kicks me right back out13:47
tomreynwiebels: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/50428/how-do-i-check-whether-partitions-on-my-ssd-are-properly-aligned13:47
tomreynwiebels: is this an ext4 file system then?13:47
lvlephHow do I change suspend hooks? Specifically, I need to run a script after resuming from suspend.13:48
pityuka44Hi, I meet with a problem all the time but only on Debian and Ubuntu. Sometimes X crashesand I find myself watching the login screen. Many people have this problem. Why?13:48
resc_user_2374yes and i got kendall@kendall-thinkpad-t420:~$13:48
wiebelstomreyn yes, its ext4 even the RAID1 drives13:48
varunendraresc_user_2374, that means you successfully logged into the virtual tty13:48
tomreynwiebels: oh so what you have a is a single ssd which contains the OS and 2 HDDs for storage, got it now.13:49
varunendraresc_user_2374, are you currently posting here from the guest account on the same machine?13:49
wiebelstomreyn that is correct, and my 2nd partition (extended) on /sda is not aligned13:49
max3is it possible to make dolphin the default file manager in gnome?13:50
tomreynwiebels: hmm well you should back it up and recreate it.13:50
Arceyedoes the command "sudo service lightdm stop" and "sudo service lightdm start"    apply to xubuntu ?13:50
lvlephmax3, http://askubuntu.com/questions/84929/how-to-set-up-dolphin-as-default-file-manager13:51
max3lvleph: it doesn't work13:51
tomreynArceye: it applies to lightdm, the universal login daemon ubuntu + xubuntu use by default13:51
max3lvleph: http://askubuntu.com/questions/293670/getting-error-when-trying-to-use-dolphin-instead-of-nautilus13:51
max3lvleph: that's not me but i get the same problem13:52
lvlephmax3, there are three solutions13:52
max3lvleph: none of them work13:52
resc_user_2374how do i get back into ubuntu13:52
tomreynArceye: if your question was whether these commands will effecitvely restart your X server on xubuntu then the andswer is 'yes'13:52
tirah4022hello13:52
resc_user_2374i even reset my password and i still cant login13:52
tomreynhi tirah402213:52
max3lvleph: i have tried exo-tools, i have tried editing ~/.local/share/applications by hand, and i tried setting the mime using xdg13:53
bruceveinamd-vi completion-wait loop timed out13:53
lvlephmax3, I won't be of much help then.13:53
resc_user_2374im new to linux13:53
bruceveini'm getting this on boot when i try to install13:53
Arceyetomreyn,  thanks, everything else such as game, web , sql server will remain running right ?13:53
lvlephbut at least you have confirmed that people can read what I post.13:53
bruceveini believe it has to do with iommu13:53
varunendraresc_user_2374, are you posting here from a different machine?13:53
resc_user_2374no13:53
wiebelstomreyn as the problem also occurs on the raid drives I suspect the alignment is not the culprit, however i was not aware that the SSD had an unaligned partition13:53
lvlephHow do I change suspend hooks? Specifically, I need to run a script after resuming from suspend.13:53
tirah4022I am trying to install ubuntu on a pc with 2 1tb hdd I shrank my windows volume so I gave ubuntu 300 gb to work with, while ubuntu is partitioning the hardrive it comes up with ??? ??? and makes me restart the installation13:54
ubottuUbuntu bug 300 in mysql-query-browser (Ubuntu) "reproducible segfault in "edit" mode for a query" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30013:54
varunendraresc_user_2374, then? Guest session from Ubuntu on the same machine?13:54
resc_user_2374yes but i cant do anything in guest13:54
tomreynArceye: anythning which depends on the graphical output may fail13:54
resc_user_2374dont have the right permissions13:54
tirah4022like the partition is created and then when I click install it gets wiered13:54
tomreynArceye: servers (which usually don't have graphical output) should continue to operate fine13:55
varunendraresc_user_2374, I'm not sure it'll work, but please open a terminal with Ctrl-Alt-T or from dash13:55
resc_user_2374im dual booted and windows is giving the blue screen13:55
Arceyetomreyn, I don't think any of those items I listed are dependent on gui13:55
himanshuhi, Can I get some names of twitter client(GUI) that 'works' normally on ubuntu 13.04 ?13:55
lvlephI know of a web user interface13:56
lvlephlol13:56
resc_user_2374after i open the terminal what do i do after13:56
tirah4022any help?13:56
varunendraresc_user_2374, Does this command work - "df -h" ??13:56
varunendraresc_user_2374, does it show you the free space on root (/) ?13:57
tomreynwiebels: yes i'm not sure about this either. i've had similar issues with ext4 and massive I/O load and a very busy jbd process, as had many other people. i didn't really find a reliable answer on the cause, nor on how to overcome it without loosing features you actually want, though.13:57
tomreynArceye: i don't know for "game", but the rest should be fine13:57
wiebelstomreyn but did you solve it in the end? or did you revert to ext3?13:57
resc_user_2374i can try but i would have to reboot agaon13:57
resc_user_2374again13:57
tomreynwiebels: i passed management of that system on to someone else ;-)13:58
wiebelstomreyn ah, well thats no option as its located in my own basement :P13:58
varunendraresc_user_2374, does that command return nothing in the terminal?13:58
Arceyetomreyn, I know the game server will be fine :)  Just trying to make the move form winXP running as a server to ubuntu, so gathering information before I stary13:58
Arceyestart*13:58
resc_user_2374im going to login here on a different pc so i can do it while im talking to you13:59
resc_user_2374brb13:59
tomreynwiebels: you should definitely consider installing some monkeys in your basement.13:59
tomreynArceye: sounds liek a good way to go.14:00
max3is it possible to make dolphin handle the desktop in gnome? ie when i double click a folder on the desktop dolphin launches instead of nautilus?14:01
Arceyetomreyn,  last but very important is ftp. currently I run a 3rd party ftp server in xindows, it allows me to set up multiple users with different permissions, these users do not have accounts on the actual box, is this possible under linux as everthing I have read indicates not possible14:02
tomreynArceye: yes it's possible. what you're looking for is an ftp server with _virtual_ users14:05
Arceyetomreyn,  thanks again14:05
wiebelstomreyn I'm rather confident its the Ext4 journal service that messes with my drives.. and indeed it looks like a common yet unsolved issue14:05
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tomreynArceye: welcome. i guess you probably want something like proftpd. it's rather straight forward to setup if you're already into apache httpd since the configuration file structure is similar. understanding the ftp protocol surely helps, though. there the most common options for storing virtual user accounts is in either flat text files or a mysql database14:08
tirah4022hi14:08
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tirah4022when I am partitioning my hard drive the /dev/sda does not have the hard drive beside it14:09
tomreynwiebels: it probably is that service, the question would be why it is, and answering this would likely require in-depth understanding of ext4, which i don't have.14:09
spaceneedleubuntu 14.04: The Broadcom driver won't install. When this happens, I install the dkms and broadcom debian packages from the dvd--but this failed too.14:09
wiebelstomreyn and neither do I, it used to be an issue with the older kernel though. I might just leave it and wait for the next LTS14:10
tomreynwiebels: sure if you can wait for two months. or try a newer kernel, or upgrade to 14.04 now, or upgrade to  13.10.14:11
Arceyetomreyn, I am currently reading about VSftpd, I honestly have no clue how to set any of this up in lunux yet ( just gathering information ) , as I am a very green linux newbie ( but learning ).14:11
wiebelstomreyn I'm not to fond of upgrades, I tend to do a fresh install.. however might just upgrade14:11
wiebelstomreyn I do want to thank you though ;).14:11
papa_hello world14:12
Arceyetomreyn, is there a ftp server which I can set up using a gui for configuration ?14:12
tomreynwiebels: maybe upgrade this time, and do a fresh install when 14.04 is stable (so like 2/3 months after release)14:12
spaceneedleI had to use the b43-fwcutter method to install the Broadcom driver for my card  for Ubuntu 14.04.14:12
tomreynwiebels: and you're welcome14:12
tomreynArceye: hmm, i'm not sure about the gui configuration, but vsftpd is not the right thing to start with if you are setting up an ftp server on linux for the first time14:14
Arceyetomreyn,  ok, it was just the first answer that came up on askubuntu when I searched for ftp server with virtual users14:14
wiebelstomreyn another thing; although I have a high IO the system does not use any memory on file copy, thats suspicious right?14:15
resc_user_2602ok varunendra is back14:15
tomreynArceye: i'd go with proftpd or pureftpd14:16
resc_user_2602im back14:16
Arceyetomreyn, going to read about them now :)14:16
varunendraresc_user_2602, on a different system now?14:16
resc_user_2602yes and i have the terminal open14:16
resc_user_2602on my laptop14:16
varunendraresc_user_2602, you mean the one that you got with Ctrl-Alt-F1? With your own login?14:17
tomreynArceye: vsftpd is the better option in the long term if you have a small user base and need a very specific configuration, though, i'd say.14:17
resc_user_2602yes its my laptop14:17
resc_user_2602im on the home computer now14:18
trijntje_what is the preferred graphical method to remote to another ubuntu machine?14:18
tomreynwiebels: i would think that's an in kernel process, but i'm afraid i don't really know14:18
varunendraresc_user_2602, so how much space do you have left on your root partition (check the output of "df -h")?14:19
tomreynwiebels: i.e. you may not get to see a "cp" process with a given larger RSZ if that's what you were looking for14:19
max3is it possible to make dolphin handle the desktop in gnome? ie when i double click a folder on the desktop dolphin launches instead of nautilus?14:19
max3*in gnome14:19
resc_user_2602how do i check that14:20
Arceyetomreyn, maybe 10 users ( just friends uploading/sharing game demo files )14:20
resc_user_260221g14:20
bart717varunendra: _or df -i /14:20
resc_user_2602size is 31g and left is 2114:20
maurosluciosestou tentando instalar aplicativos adobe no wine!14:20
maurosluciosalguém tem alguma dica?14:20
resc_user_260229%14:21
wiebelstomreyn well, I am seeing almost 0% mem usage14:21
varunendraresc_user_2602, and what is the permission on .Xauthority file? (output of "ls -l ./.Xauthority")14:21
varunendraresc_user_2602, does it show your user id in 3rd and 4th columns?14:22
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resc_user_26024th14:24
varunendraresc_user_2602, it should show something like this - "-rw------- 1 varun varun 55 Feb 19 13:29 ./.Xauthority" -- so is your login id listed two times or just once?14:26
webpandaI m facing a huge temperature problem (+88°), does anybody how I can fix the prblem?14:26
resc_user_2602once14:26
webpandaubuntu installed by default the right ati drivers14:26
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varunendraresc_user_2602, what is your user id (exactly)?14:27
resc_user_2602once on the 4th line14:27
varunendraresc_user_2602, please answer the question I asked above.14:27
bart717webpanda: tweak voltage for CPU14:27
resc_user_2602kendall14:27
varunendraresc_user_2602, exactly "kendall" right? Nothing before or after that?14:28
crabcokeI've got a question14:28
resc_user_2602well im logged in as guest14:29
crabcokeBasically I want to run a Linux distribution (still undecided) and I want to install it to a USB. Not like liveboot, but like a proper install where whatever I do will be saved for next time14:29
webpandahow can I tweak it bart717 ?14:29
resc_user_2602-rw-r--r-- 1 guest14:29
varunendraresc_user_2602, you have to log in as kendall, were you not able to do that?14:29
resc_user_2602no that is what im having issues with14:30
jozefkcrabcoke, persistence?14:30
varunendraresc_user_2602, I meant via "Ctrl-Alt-F1" at the login screen14:30
resc_user_2602ut trues to log me in but kicks me right back out14:30
crabcokejozefk I haven't found a solution yet and I've been looking a while14:30
bart717webpanda: try reboot and go int BIOS setings14:30
resc_user_2602oh yes14:31
varunendraresc_user_2602, have you tried the "Ctrl-Alt-F1" keys yet? At the login screen?14:31
jozefkit is called persistence14:31
resc_user_2602i will now14:31
resc_user_2602kendall!kendall-ThinkPad-T420:~$14:32
resc_user_2602thats what i get after in enter my user name and password14:33
varunendracrabcoke, if you want a proper installation, do it. What is the problem?14:33
billijoedid anyone try running ubuntu 13 on vmware fusion 6.0.2 on mac-book-pro retina?14:33
varunendraresc_user_2602, that's what I want. Now please run the ls command again (ls -l ./.Xauthority)14:33
resc_user_26024th line down is my user name14:35
varunendraresc_user_2602, only once again?14:35
resc_user_2602sorry 1st and 4th14:35
varunendraresc_user_2602, can you show it to us here?14:35
resc_user_26021st one is adb setup.odt14:36
automatikcan someone help me to find out if GTK+ is installed on my system?14:36
webpandaI ll try but I m quite sure that underclocking is not possible on my laptop bart71714:36
resc_user_2602how do i do that14:36
varunendraresc_user_2602, it should be only one long line.14:36
varunendrawhat is the command that you typed resc_user_260214:36
resc_user_2602ls -l14:37
varunendraresc_user_2602, the complete command was "ls -l ./.Xauthority"14:37
resc_user_2602i got back no command14:38
resc_user_2602sorry i had one too many l14:38
varunendra:)14:38
JuanHey, I installed ubuntu 12.04 and my dvd drive isn't working, it works on the live cd and other os14:39
automatikcan someone help me determine if gtk+ is installed on my system?14:40
resc_user_2602now i got -rw-------- 1 kendall kendall 198 feb 23 05:10 ./.Xauthoruty14:40
varunendraresc_user_2602, that seems okay. Now please check "ls -l ./.ICEauthority"14:41
resc_user_2602-rw------- 1 kendall kendall 4158 feb 19 04:58./.iceAUTHORITY14:43
coventryI have a netbook with full disk encryption which I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 last night.  I can no longer get past the password challenge at initial boot.  Any suggestions?14:44
varunendraresc_user_2602, that one looks fine too. Is Ubuntu installed on a single partition? No separate /boot or /home partitions?14:44
resc_user_2602yes14:45
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resc_user_2602im dual booted though14:45
varunendraresc_user_2602, and most of the space on it is empty. So I guess I can't be of further help on this. The usual suspects are clean it appears.14:46
resc_user_2602i have a 1tb harddrive14:46
ibrahimHello, I'm trying to use a LiveCD on a MacBook Pro. 13.04 is supposed to work but my computer says it can't even read the disc.14:46
shankeydoes mesa drivers supports 3d hardware acceleration14:46
resc_user_2602im just going to wipe and redo it then14:46
resc_user_2602thank you14:46
varunendraresc_user_2602, you may try renaming your current .Xauthority and .ICEauthority files, so they get created fresh, and hope it works14:46
resc_user_2602thanks again14:47
varunendraresc_user_2602, would you like to try that now?14:47
resc_user_2602oh renaming14:48
varunendraresc_user_2602, yeah, perhaps the last shot14:48
resc_user_2602sure if your willing to walk me though it14:48
varunendraresc_user_2602, it would be just two simple commands -14:48
resc_user_2602k14:49
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varunendraresc_user_2602, for Xauthority : "mv .Xauthority Old.Xauthority"14:49
ibrahimDoes anybody know what version is easiest to use on a MacBook Pro? I got it working at some point with some version but I can't remember which one it was.14:49
jqfnice.14:49
OerHeksibrahim, check the mactel pages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages14:50
resc_user_2602command not found14:50
varunendraresc_user_2602, try loggin in after that. If it still fails, then also try : "mv .ICEauthority Old.ICEauthority"14:50
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varunendraresc_user_2602, without quotes "mv...." ?14:51
varunendraresc_user_2602, it is short form of "move" (mv)14:51
hoiheWhat does it mean when there is no input line in the Terminal after an operation? I'm trying to Rsync my /home directory to /home/Storage14:52
resc_user_2602nope it wouldnt let me login14:52
ibrahimOerHeks, I have a version 9.1…does that mean it doesn't support any of the versions?14:52
ni291187hello14:53
varunendraresc_user_2602, try renaming the .ICEauthority also. Reboot if simple logoff/login doesn't work14:53
ni291187!list14:53
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ibrahimMacBook pro version 9.1, that is14:53
automatikcan someone help me out with some issues with a script I'm trying to run?14:53
varunendraresc_user_2602, if the commands were successful, you should have two "Old...." files in you Home directory now. Check "ls -l Old.*"14:54
varunendra!details | automatik14:54
ubottuautomatik: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:54
resc_user_2602nope i tried both and neither worked14:54
varunendraresc_user_2602, check if you have two "Old.." files now (ls -l Old.*)14:55
automatikok,.. I'm trying to run a program called 'balsa'14:55
automatikit requires one have gtk+ installed14:55
automatikthe first thing i want to know is,.. is it actually installed14:55
resc_user_2602yes i see two file that say old14:56
OerHeksibrahim, the wiki does not say so, i don't know as i have no apple machine14:56
glitsj16automatik: check if it is installed with: apt-cache policy balsa14:57
resc_user_2602im just going to redo it14:57
resc_user_2602lame14:57
varunendraresc_user_2602, try rebooting and retry login. If failed again, loginto the virtual tty again (Ctrl-Alt-F1), and check if the .Xauthority and .ICEauthority files were generated14:57
dabiidii84hi14:57
dabiidii84any one can help me?14:58
resc_user_2602ok14:58
varunendraresc_user_2602, by the way, did you try "Ctrl-Alt-F7" to get back to GUI?14:58
dabiidii84i want to instal ubunt in windows virtual but14:58
automatikglitsj16: ok14:58
dabiidii84any one?14:59
dabiidii84can any one help me please?14:59
Tom1i am getting permission denied error when mounting truecrypt file in ubuntu.14:59
varunendradabiidii84, you didn't tell us the story after the "but.."14:59
Tom1varunendra: i am getting permission denied error when mounting truecrypt file in ubuntu.14:59
dabiidii84sorry i think no one was reading14:59
dabiidii84so lol the thing is when the instal begin dont leave the first step15:00
hoiheSorry for repeating, but what does it mean in the terminal when there is no input line? I mean, the line with the cursor is blank. It happened after inputting my password after a longer operation rsync /home /media/Storage15:00
dabiidii84dont load any thing15:00
varunendradabiidii84, just post the details of your problem. People will respond if they have an answer15:00
varunendraTom1, was this truecrypt file created in Windows?15:00
hoiheDoes it mean that the operation is "running"?15:01
fhenning09I have a question; Is anyone here familiar /w Ubuntu on a macbook?15:01
Tom1varunendra: no its was created under ubuntu only.15:01
dabiidii84:(15:01
varunendrahoihe, yes, the process is not complete yet - that's what it means15:01
fhenning09If so why will every button and function work with the exception of button 2 on the touchpad15:01
hoiheAh, alright. Thanks, I was worried it was crashing or system hung up.15:02
cypher-neohoihe, If you would like the rsync process to be verbose, to show that the process is running and what files are being transferred, you can (next time) use the command "rsync -izvrdop [source] [destination]"15:03
varunendradabiidii84, which step the installation hangs on? The Purple screen, or after that?15:03
hoiheI will, thanks again.15:03
dabiidii84the purple15:04
cypher-neohoihe, You should also read "man rsync" to determine which command switches are the ones you need. That command I showed you is the one I use. :)15:04
davidbexit15:05
dabiidii84e choose the lenguage and then just stay the screen purple with ubuntu 13.10 and the dots dont stop15:05
hoiheAlright15:05
niuniugood evening15:06
dearcarr0tgood night !15:06
compdocgood morning15:06
wabsMorning Everyone15:07
varunendradabiidii84, how much RAM have you allocated to the VM? And which version of Ubuntu are you trying to install?15:07
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dabiidii841024 mb and thversion is 13.1015:11
varunendradabiidii84, I think you get the language screen in the Advance boot menu only, where you also get the option to "Check disc for defects, Test Memory.." etc.15:13
varunendradabiidii84, so was that the screen where you chose an option? ("Try" or "Install"?)15:15
calvin1trying out weechat.  nice.15:16
automatikglitsj16:  paste.debian.net/8359915:24
automatiki don't know what it means exactly15:24
glitsj16automatik: Installed: (none) .. means the package (i assume balsa) isn't installed .. the Candidate info shows you what package version is installable .. so if you want to install balsa, either use your regular add/remove software GUI like 'Software center' or use the terminal command: sudo apt-get install balsa15:27
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wonderworlddabiidii84: are you using the 64bit or the 32bit iso? you need to create a 64bit vm, if you want to use the 64bit iso15:28
varunendrawonderworld, if they got the language selection screen, it means the architecture was right, else the machine won't even start loading the OS15:30
wonderworldit starts grub. it hangs after trying to boot the kernel. you will see language selection with the wrong architecture15:30
varunendrawonderworld, pretty sure you won't it's the screen AFTER syslinux (or isolinux) has done its job. There is no Grub booting at all in the live session.15:31
wonderworldok i see. i used to have exactly the same problem with a 64bit vm. was no isolinux though15:32
Fogan136bonjour15:32
varunendrawonderworld, that would be the case if you try to boot a preinstalled virtual disk in a VM with wrong architecture.15:33
wonderworldyes, that was my situation15:34
varunendrawonderworld, so.. just testing or do you actually run your Ubuntu only in VMs :D15:34
wonderworldno it was actually a debian vm server, i moved from one machine to another15:35
wonderworlddidn't work on the new machine, becuase the CPU didn't have vt-x extensions.15:36
wonderworldhost machine is 64bit. host os is64 bit but it could run 32bit vms only.15:37
varunendrawonderworld, that sometimes sucks. I once wasted about a whole day creating a Remastersys image of a 64 bit installation, then created a Live USB with it. Later I realized it was useless on most of the computers I had to use it on, because they were 32 bit :(15:37
varunendrasince then, I always remember to use 32 bit iso if I'm intending to create a live USB with it.15:38
wonderworldyes, i reinstalled the whole machine, because i thought it would be more work to port it somehow :(15:39
varunendradefinitely :)15:39
MastermindLhi15:41
varunendraHi MastermindL15:42
MastermindLcan you help me with one thing? I'm super new at ubuntu15:42
virtuapostaMastermindL, ask please15:42
varunendra!ask | MastermindL15:42
ubottuMastermindL: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:42
MastermindLI'm using ubuntu on a USB stick, and I am trying to access a HDD, I had no problem at first, I could mount it then I wanted to format it to FAT and unmounted it and did that, but now it doesn't appear in the devices thing, I can't find it anywhere anymore15:44
MastermindLafter unmounting and formatting it, it has banished15:45
varunendraMastermindL, is it a Live USB or a full install?15:46
MastermindLlive usb15:47
moondoggyCan someone recommend a printer that will work on Ubuntu 13.04?15:47
varunendraMastermindL, please give us the pastebin link of the output of "parted -l"15:47
moondoggyAnd/or 12.04?15:48
virtuapostaMastermindL, also include fdisk -l output in pastebin that varunendra asked for15:49
MastermindLhow do you get to the command line? that was also another question I had lol15:49
OerHeksmoondoggy, see openprinting  database or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters15:49
virtuapostaMastermindL, search / open terminal or Alt+F2 type terminal and enter :D lol15:50
varunendramoondoggy, I have used Samsung SCX4300, it's an MFP but probably outdated. Works on both 12.04 and 13.10 though15:50
G__81Hi. I see reports stating that Ubuntu Unity 8 would be QML based so does that mean all default applications (gnome-terminal, Nautlius etc) would be changed to Konsole, dolphin and so on ?15:50
varunendraMastermindL, Ctrl-Alt-T15:50
geirhaWith Alt-F2 you'd run x-terminal-emulator, not terminal15:50
virtuapostageirha, thanks for corrections, yeah it should be "gnome-terminal" as i suspect that MastermindL must be using desktop edition :)15:51
moondoggyThanks, OerHeks and varunendra .15:51
OerHeks!14.04| G__8115:51
ubottuG__81: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+115:51
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varunendrageirha, virtuaposta it is "gnome-terminal" in the Alt-F2 command box15:52
virtuapostavarunendra, ^^15:52
varunendra:D15:52
geirhavarunendra: Yes, though Alt+F2 -> "x-terminal-emulator" will work in "all" the desktop environments15:52
G__81OerHeks: i have gone through that  but post 14.04 whats the take ?15:52
MastermindLnothing happens when I type "parted -l" or "fdisk -l"15:53
varunendrayup, that's true (and a life saver actually)15:53
varunendraMastermindL, both of them need "sudo"15:53
virtuapostaMastermindL, is at hunt today varunendra and geirha :D lol15:54
varunendraMastermindL, sorry I missed that earlier. The commands would be : "sudo parted -l" and "sudo fdisk -l"15:54
virtuapostaMastermindL, please run the command with sudo as varunendra suggested15:55
MastermindLok ok there's something here, I can see the drive here, let me figure out how to copy this and put it on pastebin since the computer doesn't have access to the internet by itself15:55
moondoggyOerHeks: Any thoughts on a newer Samsung?  The 1520 is supposed to work on 12.04 and 13.04, but it's no longer available.15:56
virtuapostamoondoggy, supposed to work means? it's not getting detected kind of?15:56
moondoggyI haven't tried.  I need to order one ASAP, and I have had trouble returning items because they don't work on Linux.15:57
lvlephcan someone give me a link or something that tells me how to switch two key location using xkb?15:57
moondoggyAmazon/whoever want you to use Windows.15:57
virtuapostano as such restrictions observed from my end till date... can you explain more about the issue moondoggy?15:58
bekksmoondoggy: Works fine on Linux here.15:58
moondoggybekks: Whick printer works?15:59
lvlephI have never had any issues with printers on linux. moondoggy16:00
bekksmoondoggy: I was referring to "Amazon/whoever want you to use Windows".16:00
lvlephAnd my last Laser printer was a Samsung SCX something16:00
lvlephSamsung actually tends to provide drivers for linux16:00
deborgiayep..16:01
moondoggyOh, gotcha, bekks.16:01
moondoggyWow, Amazon actually says that the 2165W works on linux.  I didn't think they'd heard of linux.16:01
moondoggyThanks, friends.16:01
white-bird88thats fine16:02
lvlephAmazon using a linux kernel in the Kindle.16:02
varunendramoondoggy, have you also tried ThinkPenguin? https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/catalog16:02
white-bird88@lvleph Kindle?16:02
white-bird88ereader or tablet?16:02
lvlephwhite-bird88, I think both. I could be wrong.16:03
lvlephIt would make more sense on the tablet though.16:03
MastermindLthis is a nightmare, it seems it only recognizes two USB ports and I need one for the USB stick and the other for the mouse, can't even use a keyboard, so I see no way to copy that file out of the computer16:03
white-bird88yes.. but kernel is essential to both devices though!16:03
crabbokeI accidentally clicked "kill" on one of the program in the taskbar and now desktop items and bg have dissapeared16:04
crabbokehow do I get them back?16:04
lvlephYep, the Kindle Fire is based on Android apparently.16:04
lvlephaccording to this anyway http://www.pocketables.com/2012/05/with-the-linux-30-kernel-ice-cream-sandwich-is-finally-ready-for-the-kindle-fire.html16:04
varunendraMastermindL, how many ports does this system have?16:04
lvlephand this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindle_fire16:05
virtuapostacrabboke, considering you referring top taskbar/panel, run this in terminal "sudo killall unity-panel-service"16:05
white-bird88yes16:05
lvlephyep white-bird88 even the paperwhite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Kindle16:06
MastermindLit has 12 but ubuntu only seems to recognize the two frontal ones, on the other hand when I go to the bios or something it recognizes them all and I can use computer and mouse no problem16:07
lvlephCan someone give me a link or something that tells me how to switch two key location using xkb?16:07
white-bird88see.. thats the power of linux. :D16:07
moondoggyvarunendra: I did try that page, but they only list inkjets right now.16:07
varunendraMastermindL, is "Legacy USB" support enabled in the BIOS? Although I don't understand why it won't recognize in normal mode.16:08
lvlephmoondoggy, Samsung laser jets definitely work. Atleast the SCX series16:08
moondoggyThanks, lvleph, all.16:09
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lvlephI was just about to send him a link too16:10
lvlephoh well16:10
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MastermindLI don't know, the motherboard is new though16:10
lvlephI found 40 laser jets by Samsung that work16:10
varunendraMastermindL, how many of these are USB 2 ?16:10
varunendralvleph, too late now :P16:11
MastermindLhmmm most of them are 216:11
MastermindLit seems the ones tht work are usb 316:11
lvlephvarunendra, the latest Kernels support USB 316:12
varunendraMastermindL, and the output of "lsusb" shows how many "hubs" ?16:12
lvlephsince  2.6.31 in fact16:12
varunendralvleph, even 2.6 supports them I think, perhaps that...16:12
varunendrayup :P16:12
MastermindLomg, I found another one that works, the usb 3 work apparently16:13
lvlephWell then that is great16:13
varunendraMastermindL, 12 can be confusing :)16:13
lvlephOf all the ones that you want working USB 3 is the one16:13
MastermindLyeah16:13
MastermindLok but it's weird16:13
TJ-MastermindL: What's the make/model of the motherboard?16:13
lvlephI am guessing gigabit16:14
MastermindLgigabyte16:14
lvlephboom!16:14
MastermindLyes16:14
MastermindLhow did you know?16:14
lvlephthey make crazy mbs16:14
TJ-MastermindL: That is no help, tell us the exact model16:14
MastermindL990XA-UD316:14
varunendraMastermindL, check "lsusb". Sometimes even though it is a USB3 port, it internally connects the device to a USB 2 hub, and that "internal switching" causes a lot of problems, at least delays16:14
TJ-MastermindL: What CPU is installed?16:15
lvlephCan someone give me a link or something that tells me how to switch two key location using xkb?16:15
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varunendralvleph, "they make crazy mbs" -- lol !!16:15
MastermindLFX630016:15
TJ-MastermindL: Your issue a well-known one for AMD-based systems. The Input/Output devices have their own Memory Management Unit (IOMMU).16:16
sasa_can install on xubuntu this game: http://www.playdeb.net/install/vdrift ?16:16
TJ-MastermindL: Many buggy BIOS/Firmware implementations cause problems especially for memory-mapped built-in devices16:16
varunendraTJ-, certanily not ALL AMD based systems! I love the Asus boards :D16:17
MastermindLwell that sucks, anyway that's the thing: http://pastebin.com/tZ4vQiBA16:17
TJ-MastermindL: There are two things you need to do: 1) Enter BIOS and ensure that "IOMMU" option is *disabled*  2) Add to the kernel's command-line the option "iommu=soft"16:18
MastermindLthat 2064MB HDD is the one that it can't recognize16:18
TJ-MastermindL:  " sudo sed -i  's/\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)\("\)/\1 iommu=soft\2/' /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub"16:18
TJ-varunendra: Those with IOMMUs suffer quite alot because the firmwares are often incorrectly declaring to the kernel the memory-mappings16:19
varunendraTJ-, I guess I'm lucky enough to not having encountered yet :)16:20
varunendraMastermindL, do you have any important data to rescue on that disk?16:21
MastermindLno, actually I want to use that disk to rescue data from the other disk16:21
varunendraMastermindL, try Gparted to recreate a fresh partition table, then partition(s)16:21
TJ-MastermindL: I'd bet the reason the disk drive isn't reconised is also due to the IOMMU issue, since the controller likely can't be addressed. This issue can also prevent network interfaces working correctly.16:22
TJ-s/reconised/recognised/16:22
L0UDmouthTJ-: I know16:22
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L0UDmouthTJ-: You can't do that16:23
MastermindLI see, so if I disable it on the bios maybe it's fixed?16:23
MastermindLAnd what is gparted?16:24
varunendraMastermindL, Alt-F2 > type "Gparted". It'll come up itself :)16:24
TJ-MastermindL: As I said, do those 2 steps, and if the issue is IOMMU then all the devices will work correctly16:25
MastermindLok I had to use sudo, I am in this gparted thing and it seems I can see that device here16:25
varunendraMastermindL, it is Graphical frontend to the "parted" program - a disk partitioning tool. But try what TJ- suggested first. I'd be curious to see the result :)16:25
MastermindLok16:26
MastermindL"IOMMU controller" is already disabled16:28
varunendrasounds like a wise decision by Gigabyte :P16:28
MastermindLhmmm I just noticed something, here it says "onchip sata port 4/5 type" is set as IDE, that HDD is on the port 4, would that be a problem?16:29
varunendraMastermindL, are all those disks connected by yourself? Sometimes a pair of ports are meant to be only used for raid configuration, usually differently coloured16:30
mustmodifyUsing ubuntu server, when I go to SSH, some domains I frequently use tab-complete, others do not. Why?16:30
MastermindLyes, I think this raid think is deactivated16:30
varunendraMastermindL, that shouldn't be a problem16:30
MastermindLok16:30
varunendraMastermindL, but you should change it to SATA or AHCI mode to get the full performance16:31
TJ-MastermindL: Good, so ensure you have "iommu=soft" on the kernel command line16:31
MastermindLokay so I type: " sudo sed -i  's/\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)\("\)/\1 iommu=soft\2/' /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub"16:34
TJ-MastermindL: Yes, that will change the default boot options to include the soft IOMMU16:34
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MastermindLit doesn't do anything, it says "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).16:39
TJ-MastermindL: Where are you doing it from? The command assumes a boot from installed system. Are you using a Live ISO image?16:40
MastermindLyes16:40
TJ-MastermindL: Ahh, in which case, as the Live ISO starts you need to edit it's boot options for the kernel to add "iommu=soft" manually.16:40
TJ-MastermindL: I came in late; didn't realise you were still in the installer phase.16:41
shubhamjainI am facing a stange problem. Ever since I updated to 13.10,embedded videos won't run. They are just a blank space saying I need flash 11.1 or above and I am pretty sure I am running the latest.16:41
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MastermindLok hmmm... so where would that be?16:42
bekksshubhamjain: So which flash version do you run?16:44
bekksshubhamjain: And which browser do you use?16:44
mustmodifyUsing ubuntu server, when I go to SSH, some domains I frequently use tab-complete, others do not. Why?16:44
whoever_hi all, does anyone know of and ide that will allow me a single code base  for cross platfom coding16:44
shubhamjainbekks: chromium. I guess the flash should have updated itself when I upgraded, but even then I installed using "alien" and the latest flash rpm package.16:45
mustmodifywhoever_: hunh?16:45
mustmodifywhoever_: oh, not your codebase. The IDEs.16:46
mustmodifyThere are some good java IDEs.16:46
MastermindLvarunendra, do you think I'd be able to access the disk again doing something from that gparted?16:46
mustmodifythey're cross-platform.16:46
mustmodifyeclipse. Not my favorite but lots of people like it.16:46
MastermindLlike formatting it again in another format16:46
bekksshubhamjain: Go into the plugin settings of chromium and check which adobe flash version is being used.16:46
shubhamjainbekks: Adobe Flash Player - Version: 11.216:47
shubhamjainbekks: "To view this page ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 11.1.0 or greater is installed." Is what the embedded videos say.16:47
varunendraMastermindL, if what TJ- mentioned can be the reason, then I'm not sure, so I think you should try his suggestion first. That is - try the parameter on live session16:48
mustmodifyBut if you're looking for IDEs that work with multiple OSes, I'm not sure having a single code-base is a good requirement.16:48
TJ-MastermindL: When the Live ISO starts, and you have the options "Install" and "Try", you can highlight one or the other and then there is a key-press for 'advanced' options (or editing command line) I forget which, and that allows adding options to the kernel command line16:48
bekksshubhamjain: Can you provide a screenshot of that section of chromium?16:49
MastermindLok16:49
TJ-MastermindL: It's a long time since I've used the live ISOs so they've changed a bit16:49
mustmodifywhoever_: consider perenial favorites like sublime, or for more advanced users, vim.16:49
varunendraMastermindL, how to add your option to boot line : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions16:49
helpmeNOWplease help i have ust installed but when i try to update my ubuntu 13.10 i get  " E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/16:49
TJ-MastermindL: Maybe someone else is more familiar and can give you better directions :)16:49
chairman_meowhello16:50
chairman_meow how do I install mysql via aptget?16:50
bekkschairman_meow: sudo apt-get install ...?16:51
MastermindLso I just add "IOMMU=soft"?16:51
helpmeNOW?16:51
varunendraTJ-, MastermindL , it is as simple as pressing 'Any' key during the splash screen > press F6 (or any other listed key at the bottom) > press Esc > type your option > Press Ctrl-X16:51
hoiheAhoy! Does anyone know how to fix no sound in Firefox flash-based plugins? In particular, Youtube16:51
varunendraMastermindL, I think the case of the letters matter, so keep them all small letters16:51
whoever_mustmodify: yes the code base, ie same code, for win, lin, mac16:51
helpmeNOW when i try to update my ubuntu 13.10 i get  " E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/16:51
TJ-varunendra: Thanks :)16:52
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whoever_mustmodify: i can do it with java but when i get into  things that are more os dependent like the file system, java becomes a head ache16:52
varunendraTJ-, I stole it from here sometime ago : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions :p16:52
joshuahello room16:52
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DaveVE3what are the permissions on  /var/lib/apt/lists/16:53
helpmeNOWHELP PLEASE16:53
Meerkathey. I wanna add a pgp key server to seahorse ( hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371 ) but seahorse won't let me click OK to add it. The button is, uh, blued out.16:53
DaveVE3hey helpmeNOW      /var/lib/apt/lists/16:53
Guest91381how do i get my nick to stay joshua16:53
MastermindLI added iommu=soft but still the HDD does not appear in devices16:54
bekkshelpmeNOW: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade16:54
varunendraTJ-, MastermindL , sorry it is actually "Enter" key, not "Ctrl-X" in the last16:54
DaveVE3hey helpmeNOW ... what are the permissions on  /var/lib/apt/lists/16:54
TJ-MastermindL: How about the USB 2 ports?16:54
varunendraMastermindL, then go for Gparted. There is nothing to save on the disk anyway ;)16:54
helpmeNOW<DaveVE3> i am new to ubuntu tell me how to find it please16:54
MastermindLthey still don't work...16:55
DaveVE3do you know how to use terminal and su to root?16:55
TJ-Meerkat: I think you need to omit the protocol (hkp://) and just put the hostname16:55
tedd_hi running LXLE and some of the conkys won't go to transparent help?16:55
mustmodifywhoever_: please go over your requirements with me.16:55
varunendraMastermindL, just curious - have you checked "lsusb"?16:55
TJ-MastermindL: In a terminal what does this show: "cat /proc/cmdline"16:55
SeveasMeerkat: just use the hostname, not the url16:55
helpmeNOW<DaveVE3> yes tell what to type in the terminal and i will follow you16:56
DaveVE3ls -l  /var/lib/apt/lists/16:56
helpmeNOW i get " total 99248 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  7461118 oct.  17 00:50 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_main_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3821579 oct.  16 20:41 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_main_i18n_Translation-en -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   664100 oct.  17 00:50 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   404348 oct.  15 18:46 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_di16:57
Guest91381can some one help me? i have a question where do u learn more about linux command line stuff16:57
MeerkatTJ-, Seveas I just tried "pgp.mit.edu:11371" as well as "pgp.mit.edu". Neither are addable.16:57
SeveashelpmeNOW: use a pastebin.16:57
TJ-Meerkat: Strange, I recall adding hosts that way, let me try here16:57
MastermindLI did it now, what should I see?16:57
tedd_need help plz16:58
cloneGhello I installed a LDAP server on ubuntu following this tutorial: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-configure-a-basic-ldap-server-on-an-ubuntu-12-04-vps the point is that now I want to use samba4 instead to build a DC how do I remove LDAP Server without damaging samba4 embedded LDAP?16:58
varunendraMastermindL, what did you do? "cat /proc/cmdline" ?16:58
glitsj16Meerkat: you have 2 boxes, one for the hostname, one for the port #16:58
SeveasMeerkat: hmm, just using pgp.mit.edu and filling in the port in the textentry next to it works for me. Make sure to pick http keyserver16:58
helpmeNOWtotal 99248 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  7461118 oct.  17 00:50 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_main_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3821579 oct.  16 20:41 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_main_i18n_Translation-en -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   664100 oct.  17 00:50 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   404348 oct.  15 18:46 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy16:58
Guest91381whats the cat command do?16:58
SeveashelpmeNOW: use a bloody pastebin!16:59
MastermindLI think I messed up the HDD somehow when I formatted it, on the gparted when I select it it's all gray and it says "unallocated"16:59
tedd_running LXLE and can't get some cony theams  to run in transparent16:59
SeveasGuest91381: it meows.16:59
MastermindLpartition unallocated, file system unallocated16:59
Meerkatglitsj16, I have "key server type" with only one option, custom. And then the field for the "host".16:59
TJ-Meerkat: in the Add dialog do you see 3 input fields: "Key Server Type" (multiple-choice), "Host" and ":" (port) - text boxes?16:59
varunendraMastermindL, that's normal when something is wrong with a partition/drive16:59
Guest91381lol16:59
SeveasMeerkat: which Ubuntu version, which seahorse version?17:00
MeerkatTJ-, only key server type and host. Seahorse 3.8.2 Xubuntu 13.10.17:00
Seveashmm, I have the same, odd17:00
TJ-MastermindL: We need you to show us what it says? But do you see in it "iommu=soft" - if not, then you didn't correctly add that option to the boot command line17:00
MastermindLand is there a button to fix it? ^17:00
tedd_err conky themes17:00
cloneGHello?17:00
varunendraMastermindL, in "Device" menu, choose to create a partition table. Make SUPER SURE that you have selected the correct disk, else you know now what may happen :P17:00
DaveVE3hey helpmeNOW17:00
whoever_mustmodify: should i pm it to you or do it in here17:00
DaveVE3wanna provate chat?17:00
TJ-Meerkat: OK, for type you don't see "HTTP Key Server" as an option?17:00
helpmeNOW<Seveas>  sorry i dont know how17:00
cloneGI installed a LDAP server on ubuntu following this tutorial: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-configure-a-basic-ldap-server-on-an-ubuntu-12-04-vps the point is that now I want to use samba4 instead to build a DC how do I remove LDAP Server without damaging samba4 embedded LDAP?17:01
cloneGis it safe?17:01
Seveas!repeatg | cloneG17:01
helpmeNOWyes Dav17:01
mustmodifywhoever_: when you say "the code base" do you mean the editor's code?17:01
cloneGpipe¿?17:01
mustmodifywhoever_: or your code?17:01
adalhi, is there a state of the art backup tool available for linux? basically I only need timed backups, archives (ie keep last x versions), 1:1 backups, synchronization, backups of changed files & folders only17:01
cloneGSeveas could you clarify?17:02
whoever_mustmodify: i mean my code17:02
TJ-adal: "rsync"17:02
MastermindLI did create a partition but it shows unallocated again17:02
cloneGSeveas oh its me the one repeating!17:02
cloneGSeveas sorry17:02
MastermindLa partition table, sorry17:02
helpmeNOW<DaveVE3>  please tell me what to do can you help me in facebook please ??17:03
varunendraMastermindL, now can you Right-click in the allocated space > Create partition ?17:03
DaveVE3you should see a chat window17:03
varunendraMastermindL, *unallocated space17:03
Seveas!repeat | cloneG17:03
SeveascloneG: well, I was trying to make the bot tell you not to repeat your question17:03
Seveasbut the bot is dead17:03
ubottucloneG: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:03
cloneGlol17:04
yash069lol17:04
adalthanks TJ-17:04
adalwill try that17:04
Seveas!bot17:05
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots17:05
varunendraMastermindL, did you create a single FAT partition occupying the full space earlier?17:05
cloneGSeveas still waiting for the solving -threats bot...do you have any?17:05
DaveVE3or right click on my name and open a dialog window17:05
DaveVE3I don't use facebook17:05
Seveasoh, hella lag...17:05
MastermindLvarunendra, it stil doesn't let me, it says it has no patition table even after I create it, and I think I did that, yeah17:05
MeerkatTJ-, no, "custom" is the only option in that drop down box. This is what I see: http://i.imgur.com/4XumyV8.jpg17:06
MastermindLpartition table: unrecognized17:06
varunendraMastermindL, did it apply the change right away? I don't remember if it does with partition table or not. For partition creation, it needs to "Apply" the changes first.17:08
TJ-Meerkat: I wonder if seahorse expects "/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon" to be running? Check the process list to see if it is there17:08
MastermindLI click apply and it does something, the strange thing is the other HDD seems to make some noise when I do, but the one I am applying it to doesn't17:09
TJ-MastermindL: Are you sure you've got the correct disk selected ?17:09
varunendraMastermindL, that's normal. After each change, it probes all the available disks again to be sure it is addressing them correctly.17:10
MastermindLyes I'm sure...17:10
cloneGnobody?17:10
MastermindLand ok17:10
chronicHi, how can I resolve unmet dependencies17:10
mguyWhere should I set TERM=xterm-256color in 12.04?17:10
Seveaschronic: by meeting them :)17:10
MastermindLso the HDD is destroyed? it worked well just a couple of hours ago17:10
varunendraMastermindL, others make 'More' noise because they do have partitions on them. The current one doesn't have much to be tested.17:11
Seveaschronic: generally by disabling broken PPA's you enabled and trying to undo the damage they did to your system.17:11
MastermindLok ok17:11
varunendraMastermindL, did it ask you which kind of partition table to create? (default is msdos)17:11
TJ-MastermindL: in a terminal do "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" then check the disk health with "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX" where X is the correct drive letter17:12
MastermindLyes I set msdos17:12
whoever_mustmodify: did i lose you ?17:12
chronicSeveas : there is nothing related to PPA listed in sources.list file17:12
Seveaschronic: how about sources.list.d?17:12
varunendraMastermindL, which version of Ubuntu is it?17:13
Seveas!pm | Guest9138117:13
ubottuGuest91381: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.17:13
MastermindL12.04 LTS17:13
chronicSeveas : http://pastebin.com/wrEbwxYm17:14
MastermindLI can't install that, it doesn't have internet17:14
Guest91381how do i upgrade to 13.1017:14
DaveVE3hey helpmeNOW17:14
Seveaschronic: well there you go. Remove those, uninstall things you installed from PPAs and try again17:14
Seveas!upgrade | Guest9138117:14
ubottuGuest91381: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade17:14
DaveVE3Have I resolved your problem?17:14
DaveVE3hey helpmeNOW   Have I resolved your problem?17:15
chronicSeveas : I dont have much idea about which one do I need to remove ?17:15
varunendraMastermindL, does the machine not have an internet connection or just that Ubuntu is unable to use it?17:15
MastermindLI didn't try17:16
Seveaschronic: well, let's start with what you were trying to install What was the command you ran and pastebin the full output17:16
varunendraMastermindL, do you wish to try or install the program otherwise to test the disk?17:17
frankenminthello everyone17:17
helpmeNOW <DaveVE3> yes thanks17:17
frankenminthow come I cannot set my machine to a static ip17:18
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hillary_my locahost server now showing You don't have permission to access / on this server: ubuntu 12.0417:18
frankenmintall options are greyed out in network connections17:18
chronicSeveas : http://pastebin.com/PS5kjxqn17:18
hillary_i have been using well untill now17:18
hillary_i might have done something wrong17:19
hillary_please help17:19
Seveaschronic: apt-cache policy kdelibs5-dev libkde3support417:19
Seveas(and pastebin output)17:19
Ottetaløapiosjfd17:19
MastermindLyeah I will try, I'm trying to see if I can internet17:19
SeveasOttetal: nice password. You may want to change it :)17:20
petzupi have problem with hibernate ubuntu 13.1017:20
petzupany solution around that?17:20
hillary_Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 8017:20
varunendraMastermindL, is it a wired connection or wireless?17:20
chronicSeveas : http://pastebin.com/2Sp59iGD17:20
petzupget stuck on s2disk snapshoting17:22
frankenminthow come ubuntu wont let me set my IP address to static?17:22
hillary_Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 8017:22
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hillary_that is the message i get when i go to localhost in the browser17:23
MeerkatTJ-, gnome-keyring-daemon was disabled from startup and not running. I enabled all those entries and restarted computer just in case. I still cannot add key servers, but a bunch of trusted certificates showed up in Seahorse.17:23
MastermindLok installing17:23
MastermindLit says something about postfix configuration, what should I do here, I can't even click anything?17:25
brasileirohi, i'm trying to connect an external hdd but i'm getting from dmesg the following message: "[40974.506125] usb 3-2: device descriptor read/all, error -71" followed by "[40974.506160] hub 3-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2" any ideas on how can I fix it?17:25
Seveaschronic: as I expected, you have some things installed from a PPA you've since disabled.17:26
TJ-Meerkat: Time to search the bug tracker I think!17:26
chronicSeveas : Which and How to remove those ?17:27
Seveaschronic: or even from newer Ubuntu releases than the precise you have. It's probably easiest to upgrade to 13.10 ig that throws no dependency errors. Otherwse you'll have to manually downgrade a load of packages, which is also tricky.17:27
Seveaschronic: but you basically messed up your system too much for me to want to touch it further.17:27
varunendraMastermindL, I've no experience with this tool, so can't suggest anything. Maybe TJ- can17:28
MastermindLTJ-, the command doesn't work, I don't think it installed it right, the terminal went into a screen that says "postfix configuration"17:28
chronicSeveas, is there any other way to upgrade the system other that from live usb ?17:28
MastermindLbut I can't type o click anything17:28
Seveas!upgrade | chronic17:29
ubottuchronic: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade17:29
MastermindLok thanks for all the help anyway varunendra17:29
TJ-MastermindL: That's the debian installer. You can navigate the input fields using TAB and press Enter to move on17:29
varunendraMastermindL, did that message appear during installation?17:29
TJ-MastermindL: Generally you should select the "local server" option17:30
hillary_any help?17:30
MastermindLoh17:30
MastermindLTJ-, pastebin.com/rxvy0LtS17:32
MastermindLmy HDD is old or something :(17:33
joshua__whats up ppl17:33
roadrunnerGUYS IS THERE ANY PROGRAMME ALTERNATİVE TO ADOBE DREAMWEAVER IN UBUNTU17:34
roadrunner...17:34
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MastermindLWhat do you think, TJ-?17:35
Seveashillary_: check the apache logs, they should give you a clue.17:35
Seveasjoshua__: the sky.17:35
Seveasroadrunner: f. off17:35
Seveasflooding like that is not appreciated at all.17:36
hillary_thanks Seveas i have gone there17:36
roadrunner....17:36
TJ-MastermindL: "SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED"17:36
roadrunner....17:36
roadrunner....17:36
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roadrunner....17:36
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hillary_sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /var/www/folder-name sudo chmod -R 755 /var/www17:36
roadrunnerGUYS IS THERE ANY PROGRAMME ALTERNATİVE TO ADOBE DREAMWEAVER IN UBUNTU17:36
roadrunner...17:36
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TJ-roadrunner: stop that17:36
roadrunner...17:36
roadrunner...17:37
Seveas!ops | roadrunner needs a spanking17:37
ubotturoadrunner needs a spanking: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, rww, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!17:37
joshua__jeez whats with all the flooding17:37
roadrunnerWHY THIS CHANNEL CREATED FOR?17:37
MastermindLso why do you think it doesn't work? :(17:37
roadrunnerTO SWEAR TO EACH ONE OR HELP?17:37
UltimateNateroadrunner, Get out17:38
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Seveasroadrunner: stop shouting in all caps, stop flooding. And go away.17:38
roadrunnerFCUKKK YOUR CHANNEL17:39
TJ-MastermindL: What in particular isn't working? I'm not following the channel constantly17:39
roadrunnerTHIS CHANNEL IS COLLECT OF BULSHIT17:39
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MastermindLSorry, why do you think I can't create a partition table on it?17:39
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SeveasCydrobolt: stop that.17:40
roadrunnerI ONLY ASKED A QUESTION IF YOU DONT KNOW ANSWER THEN DONT ANSWER17:40
Seveas!ops | get rid of roadrunner  please17:40
ubottuget rid of roadrunner  please: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, rww, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!17:40
roadrunnerIS THERE ALTERNATIVE ADOBE DREAMWEAVER PROGRAMME IN UBUNTU17:40
TJ-MastermindL: You're using the GUI tool? I'd switch to the command-line so there's more information available17:40
MastermindLyes, ok...17:40
brasileirohi, i'm trying to connect an external hdd but i'm getting from dmesg the following message: "[40974.506125] usb 3-2: device descriptor read/all, error -71" followed by "[40974.506160] hub 3-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2" any ideas on how can I fix it?17:40
TJ-!hi | roadrunner17:40
WobboI use 13.10 64 bit. Wine crashes. I only get a few seconds the see the configuration. I have tried several Wine versions. Any tips?17:41
UltimateNateroadrunner, Fail Trolls aren't allowed in #ubuntu.17:41
CydroboltSeveas, sorry man17:41
CydroboltI was ungrouping my nick17:41
CydroboltMy nicks*17:41
Cydroboltroadrunner, pls no caps17:41
Seveasbrasileiro: try it on another computer, or try it directly plugged into the pc if it now goes via a hub17:42
TJ-MastermindL: also, you might check the kernel log for indications that the disk operation itself is failing. From a terminal you can 'follow' the log file as it is written whilst performing the operation that appears to fail. That way you can associate logged events with the actions you take. "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log" ... then try partitioning again with gparted and see if there is any obvious error17:42
MastermindLokay btw I just noticed when Gparted loads it says "/dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label"17:43
brasileiroSeveas: already tried in another pc and he's connected directly at the notebook17:43
MastermindLsdb is that drive17:43
Seveasbrasileiro: and in another pc it works?17:43
brasileiroSeveas: yeap, like a charm... at windows..17:43
joshua__i just wish i could dual boot windows and ubuntu17:43
joshua__but i cant ever get it installed17:44
varunendraMastermindL, is that disk two years old?17:44
TJ-MastermindL: That sounds as if the disk has a non-msdos or GPT partition table layout17:44
Seveasbrasileiro: that's really odd. Maybe a usb3 disk on a usb2 port? Try a different port. Or try accessing it from an ubuntu live cd on the other system to rule out a hw problem on the notebook17:44
joshua__i wonder if it isn't my nic making it difficult17:44
cloneGI followed this thread to install samba4 on ubuntu 12.04: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214619817:44
cloneGin this thread I finally found why samba4 session is not starting: https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2013-January/089869.html in short it is because I installed LDAP server aswell and both samba4 and LDAP server use the same port! I need to uninstall LDAP server but I fear uninstalling it will remove samba4 ldap module aswell. any advice?17:44
MastermindL2 years old? more like 1017:45
varunendra:P17:45
TJ-MastermindL: I'm going to go back to my original suggestion; IOMMU. The symptoms you describe fit perfectly with the issues that no IOMMU raises17:45
MastermindLjesus17:45
TJ-MastermindL: Can you please pastebin "cat /proc/cmdline"17:45
cloneGwould it be wise to change ports?17:45
brasileiroSeveas: you see.. at another port he appears at lsusb but i can't mount it =/17:45
TJ-MastermindL: The typical symptom is, the device (disk, network, etc.) is there and the OS sees it, but any communication coming *from*  the device is lost17:46
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Seveasbrasileiro: what's the error message when mounting? What's the filesystem?17:46
roadrunnerpublic static void main(String[] args) {    if(int==0) channel'ubuntu'==stop();  }17:47
roadrunner:)17:47
brasileiroSeveas: and the messages at dmesg are here http://pastebin.com/8fsizinD17:47
TJ-MastermindL: Don't worry about age; I'm currently working on an 11 year old mobo that can't boot over USB from anything other than floppy-disk images on the USB flash! I'm having to create custom boot installations to make them work17:47
MastermindLlol that's crazy17:48
Seveasbrasileiro: ok, so that's usb 3.0 allright17:48
bakteriaYesterday I bought a gtx 750ti for my htpc (headless 12.04) but I cannot get it to work with the graphicscard plugged in. I booted with nomodeset kernel parameter and installed the latest nvidia beta drivers manually but I still get black screen on boot.17:48
MastermindLanyway this HDD was working perfectly before I formatted it, so it's weird17:48
MastermindLI didn't do anything else17:48
TJ-MastermindL: Did you format it from the same motherboard?17:48
MastermindLanyway I have to go now, thanks for all the help and see you later17:48
MastermindLyes17:48
brasileiroSeveas: fdisk doesn't seems to find it..17:49
MastermindLI did it from the same ubuntu17:49
brasileiroSeveas: only lsusb17:49
MastermindLI format then suddenly it disappears from devices17:49
Seveasbrasileiro: which Ubuntu version?17:49
brasileiroSeveas: 13.1017:49
TJ-MastermindL: Sounds like an incorrect partition table got written17:49
MastermindLand why I can't write a new one?17:49
varunendraTJ-, to me it seems that MastermindL's disk's MBR area is physically corrupt. GParted wrote a fresh partition table successfully (as per its report), but couldn't recognize that itself then.17:50
joshua__wish i could install ubuntu on my other hard drive17:50
varunendraalso, it was the hard disk that is 10+ years old TJ- :)17:51
TJ-MastermindL: I'd do "sudo sgdisk --zap /dev/sdX" to wipe any GPT or MBR or anything else away17:51
TJ-varunendra: Yeah, I've got a crate of MFM/SCSI/IDE drives here (about 40) some dating back to the 1980s17:51
Anonymoususahello17:52
Seveasbrasileiro: some googling turns up an old bug that should be fixed already. Can you try a 13.04 livecd or a 14.04 alpha livecd and see if it works?17:52
varunendraTJ-, is that command similar to "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb" ?17:52
TJ-MastermindL: varunendra something else that could affect the drive, is if the controller is running to fast for it. I've had the need to artificially limit the UDMA speed for some drives17:52
TJ-varunendra: almost, but much faster and more targeted17:53
varunendraTJ-, like wiping out only the first 512 bytes I guess :)17:53
TJ-varunendra: to wipe just an MBR you can so "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1" but for GPT there's a couple of GPT blocks on the disk, and often a protective MBR too17:53
varunendraTJ-, yup, I know GPT is larger, ignored the fact while assuming the command implication :o17:54
brasileiroSeveas: yeap, but that could take a while... you think it's that bug?17:54
joshua__could a nic like say killer nic be my problem of not getting ubuntu to boot in the live dvd17:55
MastermindLT_T17:55
MastermindLprobably tomorrow morning I will go out and buy an external hard drive17:56
MastermindLit will be good to have one anyway17:56
varunendraTJ-, but wouldn't the effect of UDMA speed same before or after the formatting? I mean if the disk was readable previously on the same channel/speed, shouldn't it be considered a compatible mode?17:56
MastermindLand this will solve the situation of having to get those files17:56
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varunendraMastermindL, I guess this one uses a 40-conductor IDE cable? Are the other two SATA?17:57
brasileiroSeveas: in here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134295 they're saying that i should add a line saying "usb_storage" to the /etc/modules... what do you think about it?17:58
TJ-varunendra: It is possible the controller changed things, if that were the issue, I'd think it one of the more unlikely scenarios though17:59
MastermindLno, it's SATA18:00
antarHi, can anybody tell me how can i update my subl ?18:00
TJ-varunendra: Combined with the known mobo and CPU, and the missing USB2 devices, it all smells like the IOMMU issue to me18:00
MastermindLI really have to go now, guys, thanks a lot x1000, bye!18:00
TJ-MastermindL: good luck18:00
MastermindLthanks18:00
joshua__is it possible to upgrade to 13.10 from 12.10 lts18:01
varunendraTJ-, I recently experienced a similar USB detection issue on an Asrock board that was doing some kind of internal switching between USB 1/2/3 ports. That was messy18:01
jhutchinsantar: What's a subl?18:01
antarjhutchins, Sublime text editor18:02
TJ-varunendra: The ports are usually shared between controllers (USB2/USB3) using a multiplexer18:02
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varunendraTJ-, it is normal for USB3 ports to connect to USB2 hubs internally when the connected device is detected as USB 2. But switching between USB1/2 part was really messy.18:03
jhutchinsantar: Wouldn't it be the same way you update any other package?18:03
antarjhutchins, Perhaps, could you remember me how do you update a package18:04
Guest1593got error : http://pastebin.com/YFVbN1v718:04
antarsudo apt-get update blah ?18:04
trismantar: apt-get install packagename; will also upgrade a package18:04
jhutchinsantar: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade will do all available packages.18:05
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antarD'oh, Unable to locate the package, i installed it using something i forgot18:05
varunendraTJ-, its logic was - connect a port to EHCI when the connected device needs fast speed, but when too many devices were connected and it had to resort to UHCI, it just used to get stuck with that port assignments even across reboots. Then even a single device (USB 2) couldn't be detected if connected to that last port that was connected to UHCI the last time.18:05
TJ-varunendra: The same applies there, the multiplexer plus the ohci and ehci drivers18:05
TJ-varunendra: Buggy mobo :)18:06
varunendraYeahRight, definitely :)18:06
jhutchinsGuest1593: We would need to know what repositories you have configured and what package you were trying to update and what packages generated the errors.  Just the fact that you got an error doesn't mean much.18:06
TJ-right! off to try this custom boot 'floppy' USB!18:06
jhutchinsGuest1593: Also, please avoid pastebin.com.18:06
jhutchins!paste18:07
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:07
varunendraYeahRight, sorry, didn't mean to address you ;)18:07
antarGot it, i installed using webupd8 repo18:07
joshua__this sucks i can only play with ubuntu on a virtual machine18:07
antarHow can i update it18:07
Seveasbrasileiro: seems unlikely to me but you could try, it can't hurt.18:08
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brasileiroSeveas: ok, so reboot then...18:10
antarok, i got it18:10
ikoniaSeveas: all sorted ?18:13
HiddenDjinnI think my site may be hacked18:13
ikoniaHiddenDjinn: how does this relate to ubuntu ?18:14
HiddenDjinnOn an ubuntu server18:14
ikoniaHiddenDjinn: how can the ubuntu support channel help you ?18:14
HiddenDjinnikonia: and if I'm in wrong channel, maybe direct me to the right one18:15
ikoniaHiddenDjinn: how can the ubuntu support channel help you ? what do you need from us ?18:15
jhutchinsantar: update updates the lists, upgrade upgrades the packages.18:15
Seveasikonia: well, roadrunner is gone so yes :)18:15
antarjhutchins, Thank you18:15
brasileiroSeveas: no luck =(18:16
petzuphow can i disable bluettoth on laptop? i dont want to have turned it on it drains battery... and i am really dont using it?18:16
HiddenDjinnWell, firefox blocks attempts to access my site, calling it an attack site, referencing malware...not sure what to do about it18:17
ikoniaHiddenDjinn: what is your site ?18:17
felisfcatusyou ran sudo dd if=some.iso of=/dev/sda , damaging the first 200mb of the 100GB NTFS partition. Your / is untouched, so linux doesnt crash. How would you respond?18:17
HiddenDjinnikonia: nyrednek.blogdns.info18:17
daftykinsfelisfcatus: are you asking what to do?18:18
jhutchinsfelisfcatus: I would presume you want to repair the MBR so grub will boot.18:18
adi__hi, does anyone know channel about computer networks?18:18
ikoniaHiddenDjinn: works in firefox just fine18:18
ikoniaadi__: ##networking18:18
daftykinsadi__: #networking18:18
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felisfcatusdaftykins: myah, pretty much18:18
HiddenDjinnikonia: so the warning has been removed...ok18:18
LihisDoes anyone use google Chrome in here?18:19
felisfcatusjhutchins: ohkay. next? would you even bother trying to recover the NTFS partition?18:20
pietro10Just wondering: if I run a .exe file on the comman dline as argv[0], it automatically opens in wine - what setting is causing htis to happen? Thanks.18:20
brasileiro118:20
HiddenDjinnikonia: thanks18:20
DesesperatedUs3rHi, could anyone give me some tips to run testdisk in ubuntu, please? I really need it to save my computer18:20
Piridinehello18:21
felisfcatushello18:22
felisfcatusDesesperatedUs3r: you could start by telling us what did you do18:22
DesesperatedUs3rOK, thanks! It uses win7, but my HDD crashed and since that moment when I start up I only see this message:  "bootmgr not found"18:24
daftykinsso why don't you repair it with a Windows boot disc?18:24
Piridinelast month, i discovered how to configured my tv with AverMedia A16D in Ubuntu. XD18:24
bekksDesesperatedUs3r: Insert a Windows CD and fix the broken boot environment.18:24
SeveasDesesperatedUs3r: if the harddisk crashed, it's time to buy a new one and restore from backup.18:24
DesesperatedUs3rI've tried to restore the computer and stopped it in the first second. Maybe too late. NTFS system dissapeared, and I'm trying to restore this with testdisk18:25
bekksDesesperatedUs3r: testdisk does not help you at that point.18:25
bekksDesesperatedUs3r: Ah, so you dont see any partitions anymore?18:25
petzuphow to update kernel?18:25
Seveaspetzup: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:25
federico_Hi all. ubuntu one is not syncing for me since 4 days ago on any computer. Does any one have similar problems?18:26
Piridineand now i am prepared to change to Ubuntu finally18:26
OerHeksfederico_, known issue > http://askubuntu.com/questions/423833/ubuntu-one-cant-connect18:26
DesesperatedUs3rI see partitions. The one with contains (or contained) the OS, has only strange folders. The other partition (with games, movies and data) is working well18:26
petzupok what about if i want to get back old one?18:26
GiddeonI have an application that I launch from the launcher.  I just installed a new version of the application, but every time I click the icon the old version gets opened.  How can I update the icon to launch the new app version?18:26
Seveaspetzup: Ubuntu keep old kernels installed until you remove them18:27
ikoniaGiddeon: how are you installing the new versions18:27
petzupbut this kernel will be now default,yes?18:27
pietro10yes18:27
Seveaspetzup: correct. You can choose kernels when booting18:27
pietro10speciifcally it becomes the first kernel in the GRUB boot list18:27
petzupokey18:28
pietro10if you press esc quickly on bootup you can choose an older kernel if something breaks18:28
Giddeonikonia: I downloaded a file from the app website, then navigated to the directory of the new application and ran ./rubymine.sh18:28
petzupwill try this now18:28
ikoniaGiddeon: ok, so that's why it's not chananging18:28
petzupwill this break my bumblebee? if i upgrade kernel?18:28
hoodediceI'm trying to install Xubuntu via livedisk via Unetbootin from a parent Windows 8.118:28
ikoniaGiddeon: the package manager knows nothing about this shell script, so can't update the launcher18:28
parapanhi folks - I want to install 2 linux distributions inside a logical volume - first is ubuntu 12/04, second is kali ....question is ....for kali should I setup a separate swap and separate boot partition ?18:28
DesesperatedUs3rbekks:  I see partitions. The one with contains (or contained) the OS, has only strange folders. The other partition (with games, movies and data) is working well18:28
ikoniaparapan: don't do that18:28
federico_thanks OerHeks18:28
parapanikonia: I'm listening18:29
hoodediceBut on bootup into the Windows OS selection thingy, selecting Unetbootin restarts the PC18:29
ikoniaparapan: logical volumes will be controlled by one of the OS's that means the other won't see the volume group of the second OS18:29
hitsujiTMOparapan: share the swap, not the boot18:29
Giddeonikonia: that's how the original application was installed as well. It created the icon  and when I started the application  I right clicked on the launcher and said "Lock to Launcher".  Is there some way I can update the link?18:29
ikoniaGiddeon: either a.) talk to the people who wrote it and ask how it should work - as it's not b.) do it manually18:29
Giddeonikonia: happy to do it manually.  Is there a directory somewhere that holds the launcher links?18:30
parapanikonia: grr so what's the solution "in english" ?18:30
hoodediceOh wait, I'm using unetbootin to HDD18:30
ikoniaparapan: ok - so the honest answer from my seat is "don't do it" - grub2 is not good at dual booting/managing updates to 2 OS's, that's my personal opinion18:31
loastrange in last chrome update it start i see random freezes.18:31
bekksDesesperatedUs3r: So do you have personal data  to be restored on the partition with the OS?18:31
ikoniaparapan: you can technically do it with seperate partitions - totally seperate and chainloading one grub2 installation from the second18:31
ikoniaparapan: however, this is a very poor solution in my personal view18:31
parapanikonia: so it would be better to have the second OS on a primary partition instead ?18:32
DesesperatedUs3rbekks: Yes I do :( Thats why I want to restore data before I reinstall windows/restore default settings18:32
bekksDesesperatedUs3r: So what are "strange folders" then?18:32
ikoniaparapan: doesn't matter if it's primary or logical, but logical volume, no18:32
parapanikonia: problem is I want to end up with 3 OS's one one drive . . .18:32
ikoniaparapan: but I advise you against this18:33
ikoniaparapan: use virtualization18:33
jhutchinsikonia: WHat two OSs have you tried it with?18:33
ikoniajhutchins: multiple ones18:33
xmetaldid i just see grub is not good at doing two partitions?18:33
xmetaler "did i just read?"18:33
DesesperatedUs3rbekks: If I enter C: right now with ubuntu i see a folder named "[(^_^)]" and another named "RMTemp"18:33
felisfcatusDesesperatedUs3r: if your ntfs patition isnt corrupted, you could just install windows on top of it. the old windows files would be moved to windows.old18:33
parapanikonia: don;t have so good PC ressources ...and I was using kali under virtual ....doesn't have all the features like the hard install. . .18:33
bekksDesesperatedUs3r: And those two folders are the only ones you can see?18:34
DesesperatedUs3rbekks: Yes18:34
ikoniaparapan: virtual/physical kali will not change the features18:34
jhutchinsparapan: A logical partition isn't really any different from a physical.18:34
jhutchinsparapan: I would re-use the swap partition though, there's no reason not to.18:34
DesesperatedUs3rfelisfcatus: I think NTFS is corrupted since I can't index any folder with ubuntu in the drive18:34
bekksDesesperatedUs3r: Then testdisk will not help you much, since parts of the MFT of the NTFS were overwritten.18:35
parapanikonia: jhutchins I mean the virtual doesn't have support for all hardwares like the hard install . . .18:35
jhutchinsparapan: I've run both two different distributions and two releases of the same distribution without any trouble.18:35
ikoniaparapan: the hardware is virtual - so it will be fully supported18:35
bekksDesesperatedUs3r: Better use a tools like photorec trying to recover file contents.18:35
jhutchinsparapan: It can be a little confusing keping track of which system is managing the MBR.18:35
xmetali have used grub/grub2 on a NUMBER of distros (dont want to get grief by listing them here) and never had an issue18:35
DesesperatedUs3rbekks: Is there a possibility to restore files with photorec?18:35
xmetalworst thing was some of my grub customizations (BG, font-family change) didn't "stick"18:35
bekksDesesperatedUs3r: Thats why I suggested it.18:36
xmetali still haven't (successfully) gotten grub to boot iso's18:36
xmetal(just to see if ii could do it)18:36
ikoniagrub2 will not manage 2 distributions well - the config files are in /etc on "1" distribution, so the other one can not update it, the only way to do it is to chainload the second grub - from the first, which is poor18:36
petzupanyone use bumblebee?18:36
parapanI know the second OS will mess with my first OS .....but how about the third one ???18:36
xmetali have never ever had to do that18:36
hitsujiTMOxmetal: use chainload for cds18:36
petzupon my pc it f... up hibernation18:36
ikoniaparapan: it will not mess with your OS at all - that is the whole problem18:36
ikoniaparapan: it cannot update the grub config18:37
hitsujiTMOxmetal: oh, wait. .iso file?18:37
xmetalthe first grub is suppose to boot the other OS... not the grub on the other OS18:37
xmetalyes yes ISO files18:37
jhutchinsparapan: Why do you think they will "mess with" each other?18:37
xmetalsay "universal Boot CD" or something like that18:37
DesesperatedUs3rbekks: OK :) I needed a confirmation. So I'm the same trouble. How I can run photorec in ubuntu?18:37
ikoniaxmetal: no, it can't do that, as kernel updates from the second OS cannot update the grub config on the first OS - which controls grub on the MBR18:37
felisfcatusDesesperatedUs3r: since testdisk reveals nothing, just use photorec18:37
hitsujiTMOxmetal: thats almost impossible to do18:37
parapanjhutchins: cause I've done that before and kali installed the customized grub over the ubuntu's original one . . .18:37
jhutchinsparapan: Other than reading the boot partitions and adding them to the grub menu, the other installations are just random data partitions.18:37
felisfcatusDesesperatedUs3r: just run sudo photorec i think. It's installed with testdisk18:38
hitsujiTMOxmetal: altho, you could prob dd it to a partition, then chanload that partition18:38
jhutchinsparapan: That's not the OS messing with the other OS - that's YOU choosing to install a different grub.18:38
whoeverhi all can someone assist me with installing youCompleteMe plugin  for vim, i have vundle installed but don't see how to add the youcompleteme bundle18:38
DesesperatedUs3rfelisfcatus: I couldn't install testdisk18:38
DesesperatedUs3rfelisfcatus: (and I'm running ubuntu from live CD, of course)18:39
jhutchinsparapan: YOU can go back and change that too by running grub-install from whatever install you want to manage the MBR>18:39
parapanjhutchins: Ok, so the option will be not to install grub for kali ? then should I do the bootable flag to ON or OFF when installing kali ???18:39
jhutchinsparapan: The bootable flag is for DOS.18:39
xmetalyeah i figured that out hitsujiTMO :P18:40
xmetaljust wanted to see if i could do it18:40
xmetalthere is something wrong with your grub then18:40
xmetal"first  grub" doesn't boot "Second grub for second OS" ... grub boots (always has here) the OS's18:40
parapanjhutchins: I don;t remember well but I don't think there is an option of not installing grub during kali install18:40
jhutchinsparapan: If the kali installtion doesn't allow you to skip grub, install it to the partition instead of the MBR, or install it and let it run the MBR.  Doesn't really matter.18:41
parapanjhutchins: how come the first install ( ubuntu) will know to index the second install ? - kali ?18:41
felisfcatusDesesperatedUs3r: does that ubuntu has internet access? just run apt-get install testdisk18:41
ikoniaparapan: if you don't install grub when installing kali-linux - how do you expect to boot kali-linux18:41
xmetalthat may work ... was trying a "direct" iso file first18:41
parapanikonia: I don't - that's why I'm asking :D jhutchins???18:41
petzuphow to get on which kernel i am right now?18:41
felisfcatusDesesperatedUs3r: else, use http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php18:41
jhutchinsparapan: Run update-grub.18:41
xmetali am in one distro that i just installed yesterday that installed grub ... i need to get back into my other distro and redo that grub18:42
DesesperatedUs3rfelisfcatus: Yes, it does have internet access. I tryied to do that and it returns: "E: Couldn't find packet testdisk"18:42
xmetalyou have kahi and ubuntu? .... you should easily be able (if you install Kahi second and DONT install it's grub) boot ubuntu and update Ubuntu's grub18:42
xmetalit should see Kahi18:42
xmetal<~~ wasn't paying attention to the question/conversation 100% ... sorry18:43
parapanAs I see, the working grub will be the one installed by the last distribution ....the last distrib will "see" the other installed distros and it will index them .....if I will revert to the first installed grub, than I will not be able to boot the other OS's . . .18:43
jhutchinsparapan: No.18:44
ikoniaforget "reverting"18:44
ikoniawhat about when you update the kenrel in the second OS, the first OS (which controls grub) will not know about the update,18:44
xmetalyou can boot into the "first" (i am taking Ubuntu)18:44
xmetaland UPDATE grub's configurations18:44
parapanxmetal: that's what I'm asking ....I don't think I can "skip" the grub install on kali ...18:44
DesesperatedUs3rfelisfcatus: Is gparted better solution than photorec?18:44
xmetaland 9 times out of 10 (at least for me) it will see the new OS18:45
xmetalnever had an issue with that here18:45
ikoniaxmetal: so what you are saying is, every time you update the second/third OS - boot into the first OS and manually update the grub config"18:45
jhutchinsparapan: If you allow the installer to install grub to the MBR, that grub will control the boot.  If you don't, then the original grub will still control it, but won't initially see the new install until you run update-grub.  When you do that _from_the_original_install_, it will detect the new bootable kernel and add that to the menu.18:45
xmetalyou will not be able to get into kali (why do i spell it "kahi" ?)  right away but as long as ubuntu boots, update grub's configurations and it should "detect" kali was installed18:46
xmetaland update the menu accordingly18:46
ikoniaparapan: here are your options - a.) accept grub2 is a poor solution for dual booting b.) accept the manual work arounds needed ongoing to manage your dual boot system18:46
ikoniaparapan: personally - grub2 is unacceptable to me to do this, if you disagree, carry on18:46
jhutchinsikonia: Do you recommend lilo instead?18:46
ikoniaxmetal: that is the worst way of managing a dual/tripple boot system ever,18:46
xmetalyou could boot into the "first grub OS" and update that or install the new OS's grub and then that should detct the first one18:46
xmetaleither way18:46
ikoniajhutchins: I recommend "not doing it"18:46
jhutchinsikonia: I think you are wrong.18:47
jhutchinsikonia: Lots of people do this all the time.18:47
ikoniajhutchins: or using virtualizations18:47
ikoniaI don't believe grub2 is an acceptable way of managing a dual boot system18:47
hitsujiTMOparapan: or :     instal kalis grub bootstrap to a partition  + chainload that in grub in ubuntu.18:47
xmetali do it on many different PC's18:47
xmetalgrub 2 is easy18:47
xmetallol18:47
jhutchinsikonia: In fact, it's how most maintainers and developers run multiple systems,18:47
ikoniajhutchins: no, lots of people break it, few people do exactly what you are saying and are able to manage it18:47
* xmetal jhutchins 18:47
xmetaloops18:47
xmetalsorry18:47
jhutchinsikonia: Trust me, I've been at this for a while.  Multi-boot works just fine.18:47
* xmetal agree's with jhutchins 18:48
felisfcatusDesesperatedUs3r: loosely, it recover files based on their types. You'll prolly lose the folders hierarchy and you may not be able to recover everything18:48
parapanikonia: jhutchins xmetal OK, but the update grub will be done only once after installing the second/third OS or have to be done each time the kernel is updated on each OS ???18:48
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ikoniajhutchins: I'm aware of how it can work, but it doesn't work for the average user18:48
ki7rwgrrr, all my outgoing e-mail is being bounced by spamhaus - new filters in force - i guess i'll have to shut down my mailserver18:48
ikoniajhutchins: havin to boot into the first OS to update the second/third OS config is just unacceptable18:48
xmetalnonono18:48
xmetalyou boot into first OS ONCE and update grub18:48
xmetalthats it18:48
jhutchinsikonia: Judging by the traffic on freenode very few people have any problems with it.18:48
ikoniaxmetal: no, - you have to update it after each kernel update18:48
xmetal"settings" (detecting Kali for example) will stick18:48
ikoniaxmetal: if you update the kernel in the second OS it CANNOT update the grub menu controlled by the first, you need to boot into the first to update it again18:49
xmetal"update-grub" is the command i think18:49
DesesperatedUs3rfelisfcatus: OK i try. I dont need Ubuntu tu run it, right? I just restart and boot from usb18:49
ikoniaxmetal: sounds like you don't really understand it18:49
jhutchinsxmetal: Right, update-grub.18:49
ikoniabut in the FIRST os ,18:49
coreireWhats the easiest way to copy a ubuntu install from a hard drive to a usb flash drive? Is it possible to do it from a system while the os is running?18:49
ikoniaso you have to do this each time the second/third OS does a kernel update, boot into the first update nad rebuild the grub config18:49
jhutchinsThink of how many people have run Windows and Linux on the same systme for years.18:49
hitsujiTMOikonia: if you install the grub for kali to a 1mb partition, you can chainload that in ubuntus grub, so you don't need to keep it up to date18:50
ikoniajhutchins: windows/linux is a different dual boot setup - that works fine18:50
xmetali am one of them, jhutchins18:50
xmetal:)18:50
ikoniahitsujiTMO: yes, I also said that is the only way to do it, chainload18:50
xmetalmany many different distros18:50
xmetaland grub works fine on all of them18:50
hitsujiTMOikonia: ahh yeah sorry, cool18:50
xmetalthat i have tried18:50
ikoniaxmetal: sounds like you dont understand it18:50
jhutchinsxmetal: I never did that much.  I had dedicated linux boxes, then I ditched windows completely about ten years ago.18:50
xmetalgood idea, jhutchins18:51
xmetallol18:51
jhutchinsikonia: I would say the person who doesn't know how to make it work is the person who doesn't understand it.18:51
xmetallol @ i am senching this is going nowhere18:51
parapanikonia: jhutchins xmetal > just to make this COMPLETE confusing for everyone I must inform you that my 3rd OS will be W7 =))18:51
xmetalresorting to that18:51
ikoniajhutchins: who is that ?18:51
ikoniaparapan: the windows dual boot is not a problem, it's just multiple linux distributions18:51
xmetalno problem, pa... i have a triple boot here18:51
xmetal:)18:51
xmetalwin7 being one of them18:51
felisfcatuscoreire: no18:52
felisfcatuscoreire: you;ll need 2 usbs18:52
morsnowskicookie for who finds the mistake first sudo dd if=/Users/morsnowski/Downloads/raspbmc-2013-12-23.img of=/etc/rdisk1 bs=1m18:52
jhutchinsparapan: afik you will have to re-install grub after you install windows.  It does NOT respect other operating systems.18:52
Guest30335xmetal, windows will not be a problem; dual boot with two different linux versions will be (or you use chaned grubs as ikonia suggested)18:53
xmetalreally if you pdate the kernel on "OS 2" (second linux) ... and want to use grub from the first OS... going into the first OS and running "update-grub" is easy18:53
coreirefelisfcatus: Boot something like clonezilla off the 2nd usb?18:53
morsnowskiit is my experience that installing windows first and ubuntu second is the cleaner way18:53
* xmetal sighs 18:53
ikoniaxmetal: it is not an acceptable way of managing a system - to control the second OS from the fist.18:53
felisfcatuscoreire: boot the stuff you want to install18:53
xmetalso you want a grub for each OS18:53
xmetalgrub boots to grub to grub18:53
xmetalhmm18:53
xmetalnot even sure if that's possible, lol18:53
jhutchinsikonia: You are wrong.  You may prefer not to do it that way, but it is perfectly acceptable and supported by most distribution support channels.18:54
felisfcatusDesesperatedUs3r: like i said you could install testdisk on your ubuntu if you dont want to download another os18:54
ikoniachainloading while not great, at least will not require constant maintenance18:54
ikoniajhutchins: as I've said approx 5 times - this is my personal opinion18:54
coreirefelisfcatus: I want to move my currently working ubuntu install from my hard drive to a usb stick though. Can I do that?18:54
xmetali would get "Super Grub CD" (or i think there is a similar tool on the same site)18:54
Guest30335ikonia, second that18:55
xmetalthat fixes grub if you install Linux Last18:55
xmetaloops18:55
ikoniasuper grub cd has nothing to do with it18:55
ikoniaas it's just grub18:55
parapanikonia: what you're right about is that I'm an bit of -"average" user .....but I'm pretty sure I'll damage the MBR ....and the grub ...first time I've fixed with a direct tool ....boot-repair-disk18:55
xmetalgood god18:55
xmetali smell a troll18:55
jhutchinsparapan: Actually, you won't.18:55
ikoniaparapan: I don't see any reason why you would cause any damage that could not be repaired18:55
felisfcatuscoreire: i'd just do a fresh reinstall18:55
xmetalanyway, i would get SuperGrubCD (again there is another simiiar tool on the same site) that fixes grub if you install WINDOWS last18:56
jhutchinsparapan: It's up to you.  ikonia will support chainloading if/when you can find him, there are several of us who will support multiple installtions.18:56
parapanjhutchins: I was almost sure ....that will probably fix the first install boot and I'll loose the other os's18:56
felisfcatuscoreire: you might be missing stuff that is required to boot from usb18:56
jhutchinsparapan: I prefer the simpler solution.  Making it more complex provides more opportunity to break.18:56
xmetalrun that once and you can get bgack into linux18:56
xmetal:)18:56
jhutchinsparapan: Several of us have told you that we've done this and that doesn't happen.18:56
xmetali agree with jh18:56
DesesperatedUs3rfelisfcatus: When I try to install testdisk in ubuntu it returns: "E: Couldn't find packet testdisk"18:56
bsdbyteHello, im looking for a rails developer, who loves server configuration, programming etc. The pay is good. But must be able to work fulltime.18:56
xmetalgrub booting to a second grub ... thats silly IMHO18:57
morsnowskixmetal: yes about as dense as it gets18:57
ikoniabsdbyte: please don't advertise in ubuntu channels18:57
coreirefelisfcatus: Ok, thanks.18:57
xmetali think one person in here in confusing everyone, lol ... i agree with most of what jh has said18:57
jhutchinsDid you know you can get the NTLOADER to chainload grub, so that it becomes the primary bootmanager?18:57
bsdbyteikonia, sure18:58
ikoniathanks18:58
xmetalthen your are in a grub2 to grub2 booting loop18:58
xmetallol18:58
ikoniaxmetal: no-one said a loop18:58
ikoniaxmetal: please don't make things up18:58
parapanjhutchins: Ok, but let's go back to my original problem ......I want kali installed into a 50GB ext 4 partition ......shold I do /boot /swap and / on that 50 Gb partition ?18:58
xmetalgod i need to get hexchat to get the ignore feature18:58
xmetaltroll18:58
ikoniaxmetal: chainloading is a fully supported and long term option of grub and grub2 - so don't try to be-little people18:58
jhutchinsparapan: Not swap.18:59
jhutchinsparapan: I prefer a single partition + swap.18:59
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suorei have problem with chromium, cannot typing comnn ets ay youtuibe - after click at commnet windos i got auto turn on and off a window xD18:59
jhutchinsparapan: swap should be a seperate partition, but both ubuntu and kali can share it.18:59
parapanjhutchins: when choosing all OS into one partition kali requested the /swap to be setup ....how can I share the ubuntu /swap ?19:00
jhutchinsparapan: /boot does not need to be a partition, although it can be.19:00
jhutchinsparapan: Yes, share the swap.19:00
ram_hai19:00
Guest30335parapan, /boot on their own partitions, /swap can share the partition since never the two OS will be up at the same time19:00
parapanjhutchins: OK how can I share that /swap ??19:01
Guest30335parapan, just select the same partition on the installation process19:01
jhutchinsparapan: You just point both installs to the same partition for swap.19:01
ram_which is best for downloader19:01
jhutchinsparapan: As a matter of fact, if you have a swap partition, most distributions will detect and use it, so you'd end up using both swaps if you created a second one.19:01
jhutchinsparapan: You do need to do manual partition setup.19:02
jhutchinsGuest30335: There is no reason for the average user to have a seperate /boot.  A single OS partition has a lot of advantages for new users.19:02
felisfcatusDesesperatedUs3r: you sure the ubuntu live disk is connected to the internet?19:03
felisfcatusDesesperatedUs3r: do a sudo apt-get update first19:03
Guest30335jhutchins, uh, my bad. I meant that every OS installation needs to have their own /boot partition; that cannot be shared19:03
jhutchinsGuest30335: Well, their own /boot folder/tree, right.  Can be a part of /.19:04
Guest30335jhutchins: I reckon too that there is no need to have a separete boot partition, though19:04
Guest30335jhutchins: yup, understood19:04
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parapanjhutchins: Guest30335 > so I need manual ,..correct . . . but still don't get-it ....I tell kali to set /swap ....on the /swap of ubuntu ......sda5 for example ....that will not overwrite something from ubuntu OS ?19:04
ram_help me to choose downloader for ubuntu19:05
BeldarDesesperatedUs3r, You will need to turn off the cd and use the main repos, run this command and untick the cd and then run a update then the install. software-properties-gtk19:05
jhutchinsparapan: Swap gets overwritten on every boot anyway, doesn't matter.19:05
DesesperatedUs3rfeliscatus: yes im sure. I can navigate. I tryied apt-get update but it doesn't work (many packages were not downloaded - 404). I think the version of ubuntu im using in this cd is too old19:05
shaun___ram_: what are you looking to do?19:05
parapank jhutchins : - next question ....how can I update the grub after the kernel was changed into second OS ?19:06
Guest30335parapan: you choose /sda5 for swap on both installations. And then you use lets say sda3 for the "/" on one installation and sda4 on the "/" of the other installation. Not difficult, I promise19:06
shaun___!fixgrub19:06
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:06
jhutchinsparapan: If you do not choose to install grub to the MBR - to /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda6 - then the original grub will still be in control.19:07
felisfcatusDesesperatedUs3r: just try gparted live then19:07
parapanGuest30335: I've figured this one thanks >19:07
Guest30335parapan: jhutchins this is it. when you run "aptitude safe-upgrade" automatically will update its own GRUB, you don't have to worry about that19:07
jhutchinsparapan: If kali does install to the MBR, it should still let you boot to ubuntu.  You can either just live with that, or boot to ubuntu, grub-install /dev/sda, update-grub, and ubuntu will be in charge again.19:07
parapanjhutchins: and if I cannot avoid installing the grub of kali ?19:07
jhutchinsGuest30335: upgrades only update grub if they install a new kernel.19:08
Guest30335parapan: thats the advantage of have a chained grubs... eachone is updated independently from their respective OSs19:08
Guest30335jhutchins: yeah, thats what parapan whas asking19:08
jhutchinsparapan: The second example I gave.  Let kali control it or re-install from ubuntu.19:09
Guest30335jhutchins: parapan have to go. parapan good luck with your setup. Please backup everything you don't wanna loose before start ;)19:10
jhutchinsparapan: You're going to end up reinstalling grub after you install windows anyway, just pick which install you do it from.19:13
parapanGuest38215: ok thanks19:13
parapanjhutchins: k, but after reverting to ubuntu's grub I stiil have to manually update the grub of each OS with aptitude safe-upgrade ?19:17
jhutchinsikonia: I guess my main objection to chainloading is that there's no automated way to set it up that way, so it ends up being more complex for a new user to do.19:17
ikoniajhutchins: it's a very good point to raise19:17
jhutchinsparapan: No, you only need to do update-grub on whatever system last installed grub.19:17
parapanjhutchins: and that will take care of all other OS's ? sounds too simple19:18
jhutchinsikonia: Once they understand bootloading better, they can always switch to that if they find the default inconvenient.19:18
GoobslyTesting.19:18
ikoniaparapan: one OS controls grub, every time you make a change to the other OS's you need to update the config from the controlling OS19:18
jhutchinsparapan: Each OS takes care of it's own internal setup.  You point grub to the root and the kernel and that OS takes it from there.19:19
parapanikonia: that was my understanding also19:19
jhutchinsparapan: Actually, it's usually root, initramfs, and kernel in the grub config.19:20
parapanjhutchins: but the grub config file will have the setup of all other OS's correct /19:20
ki7rwwhy isn't the latest version of virtualbox in the repositories?19:20
PhosphorescentYo19:21
jhutchinsparapan: Yep.19:21
PhosphorescentNew here19:21
PhosphorescentWut's the topic??19:21
ikoniaparapan: type /topic19:21
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Phosphorescent anyone acceptin the 'yo'?19:23
parapantype /topic19:23
ikoniaPhosphorescent: channels not really a chat channel (try #defocus for that) this channel talks about ubuntu only19:23
ikoniaPhosphorescent: the links in the topic will provide more detail19:23
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parapaninsufficinet arguments for command ?19:24
brasileiroanybody knows how can I update my BIOS using Ubuntu? I have a Dell Inspiron 17R SE and tried the firmwaretoll --update without luck...19:34
cow5843When Ubuntu 14.04 releases, will I be able to upgrade my 14.04 to final?19:35
Beldarbrasileiro, Some bios updates have a bootable iso you can put on a cd/usb, have you looked for this?19:35
cow5843without resinstalling19:35
yeatscow5843: yes - it will happen via normal updates19:35
cow5843yeats: thanks19:35
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brasileiroBeldar: all that i found on dell's website is a windows exec...19:35
Beldar!14.04 | cow5843 for future trusty issues19:35
ubottucow5843 for future trusty issues: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+119:35
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Beldarbrasileiro, So what is the motivation to do this update?19:39
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brasileiroBeldar: i'm having trouble mounting an external hdd and this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1154739 ended because the guy had an outdated bios..19:42
brasileiroBeldar: i'm having the same problem described and can't figure out what to do...19:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1154739 in linux (Ubuntu) "0421:026a [Gigabyte Z77-DS3H] xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: xHCI xhci_drop_endpoint called with disabled ep eab59c8c" [Medium,Expired]19:42
Beldarbrasileiro, I did find this dell ubuntu bios wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DellBIOS19:42
matt444My computer keeps wanting to connect to the router with an IP address that is reserved to another computer. If I try to reserve a different IP for it in the router it won't conect19:42
brasileiroBeldar: yeap, I saw that, but keeping in mind that updating the bios is kinda dangerous I was wondering if anybody could second that information...19:43
jhutchinscow5843: Generally most of the Debian derived distributions like Ubuntu will support upgrading to the next release, while RedHat distributions including Mandriva and Suse will not.19:43
jhutchinsbrasileiro: I would stick to BIOS updates that come from the manufacturer - from Dell in this case.19:45
felisfcatus^19:45
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felisfcatusmatt444: reserver an ip that is outside the dhcp range19:46
parapanjhutchins: ikonia -thanks for support -i saved the conversation and i'll come back if needed ....19:46
brasileirojhutchins: so the solution is to install windows an update from the exec that dell is showing at the website?19:47
felisfcatusbrasileiro: you could brick your pc if not done correctly. like perma brick unles you're good with reflashing bios chips.19:48
felisfcatusbrasileiro: so i recommend stick to th recommended way of reflashing the bios, or not update at all unless it's necessary19:48
jhutchinsbrasileiro: If Dell has a BIOS update it's a good idea to install it.  Dell usually supplies instructions on how to do so, and these days it's possible from Linux.19:48
OerHeksmatt444, sounds like that ip is reserved by the MAC adress, clone that mac adress and you'll be fine19:49
Beldarbrasileiro, So how are you mounting the external, and is it in fstab as well?19:49
jhutchinsfelisfcatus: It really depends on the hardware.  In the early 2000s it was almost always necessary to update the BIOS on IBM Thinkpads when you got them.19:49
brasileirojhutchins: the only way i found is throught windows http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails/Product/inspiron-17r-se-7720?driverId=FJY72&osCode=BIOSA&fileId=3290558924&languageCode=EN&categoryId=BI19:49
ubuntuuserhappyI've had a couple of security breaches recently,  both originating from the "ubuntu" user on the system.  The second was simply someone logging in, first try with the ubuntu user via ssh, the thing im wondering is, is there any reason for the ubuntu user to have a shell at all? Also,19:50
jhutchinsbrasileiro: Follow Dell's instructions and you should be fine.  If not, you can turn to Dell for support.19:50
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: ubuntu user doesn't exist on an install19:50
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: that's only on livemedia19:50
brasileiroBeldar: nop, it only appears at lsusb, and dmesg returns the same thing as the bug thread19:50
ubuntuuserhappythere were no services running with the ubuntu user, so that couldn't have been the source of the hack19:51
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: ubuntu user doesn't exist on an install19:51
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: that's only on livemedia19:51
hikmatubuntu not taking ks parameter in boot prompt19:51
brasileirojhutchins: ok, i'm gonna install windows then...19:51
Beldarbrasileiro, So how are you mounting the external, and is it in fstab as well? I'm just wondering if there is an error in this scenario.19:51
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Beldarbrasileiro, This a ntfs partitioned external?19:51
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brasileiroBeldar: i can't mount it.. it doesn't show up in fstab, only in lsusb... fdisk -l returns nothing related to it... yes, it's ntfs19:52
jhutchinsbrasileiro: Dell usually has a bootable image you can use to flash the BIOS - then again, I deal mostly with Dell Servers.19:52
ubuntuuserhappyikonia: its getting installed with some package that my lxc-install script is installing19:52
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: which package is providing that package19:52
brasileirojhutchins: thanks! i'll keep looking for this bootable option..19:52
* jhutchins thinks he's missing part of the thread.19:52
ikoniathat script sorry19:52
Beldarbrasileiro, Could be as simple as the external needing a chkdsk, I would do that, but yes use windows to install the bios from dell.19:53
DaveVE3jhutchins,  are you in canada?19:53
hitsujiTMObrasileiro: does it show ip in lsblk?19:53
jhutchinsDaveVE3: Nope, next country South.19:53
DaveVE3OK... thanks19:53
brasileiroBeldar: hitsujiTMO nop... only sda19:54
shift_timIs there a way to find all files in a directory which end in a six-character extension?19:54
shift_timExample: I want to find file.aaaaaa and file.a4Diiq, but not file.txt or file.1234519:54
brasileiroBeldar: it's working fine at another machine that runs on windows19:54
ubuntuuserhappyikonia: lxc, the lxc install script is what sets up the guests, it only installs some very basic packages, like npt,iptables,dnsutils,etc19:54
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: what package provides that script19:54
DaveVE3ls -lR *abcdef19:54
Beldarbrasileiro, That is windows linux can be finicky with file systems.19:54
jhutchinsshift_tim: find /path -name "*1234"19:54
ubuntuuserhappyikonia: its a script modified from the lxc package, are you familiar with lxc?19:54
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: what package provides that script19:55
jhutchinsshift_tim: Oh, -name "*.??????"19:55
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: that is the actual package name19:55
hitsujiTMObrasileiro: whats the output of: ls /sys/block19:55
DaveVE3ls -l |grep abcdef19:55
Beldarbrasileiro, If you have access to another windows I would chkdsk /r that external, or just run the right click on iot in computer that is a chkdsk basically in windows.19:55
brasileiroBeldar: but doesn't it need to appear at fstab for me to run fsck on it?19:55
Beldarbrasileiro, you do not run a fsck on a ntfs, I said chkdsk19:56
brasileirohitsujiTMO: sdb is there19:56
ubuntuuserhappyikonia: are you familiar with lxc?19:56
Beldarbrasileiro, fsck is linux chkdsk is windows19:56
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: yes, but that isn't the question, I'm asking you "what is the name of the package that provides that script"19:57
OerHeksubuntuuserhappy, "The default template does a bare bones Ubuntu 10.4 install, creates a user “ubuntu” .... < http://derek.simkowiak.net/lxc-ubuntu-x/19:57
brasileiroBeldar: i'll try that, but giving that there's a bug related to it, I don't think that's all19:57
jhutchinsThere are disk check tools for ntfs in linux, but it's preferred to do it from Windows if possible.19:57
hitsujiTMObrasileiro: whats the output of: ls -ld /sys/block/sdb/sdb119:57
jhutchinsfsck.ntfs is available, as are ntfscheck and checkntfs.19:57
OerHeksubuntuuserhappy, so obvious, that user is a nice user19:58
hikmatHello there19:58
jhutchinsNot sure which if any are in Ubuntu.19:58
Beldarbrasileiro, One bug is not a cause and effect empirically with the variables that are still present.19:58
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hikmatany one for help19:58
DaveVE3hey hikmat19:58
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brasileirohitsujiTMO: ls: cannot access /sys/block/sdb/sdb1: No such file or directory19:58
jhutchins!ask | hikmat19:58
DaveVE3hikmat,  wacha need19:58
ubottuhikmat: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:58
ubuntuuserhappyoerheks: yes, I'm wondering why im getting hacked through that user, this current time it looked like they just knew the password, no failed log in attempts, not services running as ubuntu19:59
jhutchinsubuntuuserhappy: Did you set the password for that user?19:59
que1Hey guys I want to know what is the appropriate way to keep the icons for my recently compiled application, in /usr/share/pixmaps or /usr/share/icons/hicolor? I've seen there are some in /usr/share/pixmaps with different sizes. Is this recommended?19:59
felisfcatus!patience | felisfcatus19:59
ubottufelisfcatus, please see my private message19:59
brasileiroBeldar: doing the check20:00
jhutchinsfelisfcatus: You can also /msg ubottu <factoid> for a private reply.20:00
hikmatUbuntu is not taking kickstart parameter  at boot prompt from web20:00
hitsujiTMObrasileiro: with that it sounds like there is no partition table on the device. (hence why it doesn't show up in fdisk). you most likely have written the filesystem directly to the disk20:00
ubuntuuserhappyjhutchins: no i did not20:00
jhutchinsubuntuuserhappy: You should probably re-do the install and set it.20:01
ikoniathe ubuntu users default password is normally ubuntu20:01
jhutchinsubuntuuserhappy: That or reinstall and lock the account with passwd -l ubuntu20:01
ikoniahence why I want to know what package is installing that script20:01
ubuntuuserhappyjhutchins: yes, that is the plan, but I would still like to know how it happened in the first place20:01
brasileirohitsujiTMO: actually the disk is kinda differente, it's an Iomega ScreenPlay, but this http://linuxhcl.com/browse/product?id=6977 says it works under linux20:01
brasileirohitsujiTMO: basically the Iomega ScreenPlay acts like an external hdd + video player all in once20:02
butterman___hallo20:02
jhutchinshitsujiTMO: ubuntu does not use kickstart, it uses preseed, and I don't know what you mean by a "boot prompt from web" - that doesn't make sense.20:02
jhutchinshitsujiTMO: Sorry.20:02
jhutchinshitsujiTMO: ubuntu does not use kickstart, it uses preseed, and I don't know what you mean by a "boot prompt from web" - that doesn't make sense.20:02
butterman___what?20:02
OerHeksubuntuuserhappy, if that script did not prompt for setting a password, password would be empty20:03
ubuntuuserhappyikonia: why the hell would that be set with a default password like that, and that script for the hundredth time is derived from the stock scripts that come with lxc20:03
jhutchinshikmat: ubuntu does not use kickstart, it uses preseed, and I don't know what you mean by a "boot prompt from web" - that doesn't make sense.20:03
hitsujiTMOjhutchins: :)20:03
jhutchinshitsujiTMO: Too many different keyboards.20:03
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: what is the package name - for the 100th time20:03
ubuntuuserhappyoerheks: should be, but isn't, ikonia is telling me the default password is ubuntu for ubuntu user???20:03
ubuntuuserhappyikonia: LXC20:03
ikonia!info lxc20:04
suppybotAnnouncement from my owner (harris): #coding-n00bs hello20:04
ubottulxc (source: lxc): Linux Containers userspace tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.0~alpha1-0ubuntu14.1 (saucy), package size 132 kB, installed size 549 kB20:04
hitsujiTMOjhutchins: pxe setups typically use kickstart tho: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer20:04
basketball~ part #ubuntu20:04
basketballsorry about suppybot ikonia20:04
ikoniabasketball: no problem, thank you20:04
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OerHeksikonia he used this  "The default template does a bare bones Ubuntu 10.4 install, creates a user “ubuntu” .... < http://derek.simkowiak.net/lxc-ubuntu-x/20:05
hikmatJhutchins: I mean when we pass parameter to kernel just by pressing F6 at boot prompt like Boot Options ks=http://example.com/ks.cfg20:05
eng1nek20:05
basketballikonia,  were you going to kick or ban it20:05
ikoniabasketball: ban it until I spoke to the owner, but as you spoke up, nothing20:05
ikonia!info lxc20:05
ubottulxc (source: lxc): Linux Containers userspace tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.0~alpha1-0ubuntu14.1 (saucy), package size 132 kB, installed size 549 kB20:05
basketballikonia,  we have the same ip so if you banned you would ban me20:06
conallHi, Im getting a dell latitude e5430. Ubuntu provides a 12.04 image for it http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201202-10548/   However some of the specs are different (ie. i7 processor instead of i5). Will this image still work?20:06
ikoniabasketball: good job I didn't then20:06
ikoniaOerHeks: if thats still the case for the saucy packages, maybe worth looking into a bug report then20:06
Beldarconall, I would use the 12.04.4 image.20:07
jhutchinsOk, kickstart is supported in Ubuntu.  Didn't know that.20:07
jhutchinshikmat: That's usually a network problem for us.20:07
ubuntuuserhappyoerkecks: thanks, i guess I'll just have to add a line to the script remove log in privilages for the ubuntu user20:07
conallBeldar: do you mean the standard image?20:08
OerHeksikonia, that url gives a selfmade script from github AFAIK, not official20:08
jhutchinshikmat: Have you verified that the ks file is accessible from the subnet you're using?20:08
Beldarconall, Yes, so your concern is will ubuntu run on this computer?20:08
ikoniaOerHeks: thats interesting, so an official package is pushing out that shell script ?20:08
DaveVE3ubuntuuserhappy, just take the hash out of the /etc/shadow file20:08
hikmatJhutchins: yes it's accessible.20:08
DaveVE3then it can't be logged into20:09
hitsujiTMOconall: the link is to the standard 12.04.2 iso. you'be be better off trying the 12.04.4 iso. especially with the newer hardware20:09
conallBeldar: Thanks for the reply btw. I'm fairly sure it will, but im just wondering which image would be better to use20:09
DQSIIso i had a question when it comes time to upgrade to 14.04 am i gonna have to remove gnome 2 fallback agian cause i dont like that i just use unity and compiz and xfce and kwin20:09
jhutchinsconall: Linux is generally good at adapting to any Intey-type hardware.  Occasionally there are problems with network cards or advanced video, but they can be worked out.20:09
ubuntuuserhappydaveVE3: yeah that might be the best way to go about it20:09
DaveVE3then any programs that need that user id will still work20:10
OerHeksikonia reversing that odd user ubuntu, google came up with that script, so it needs some working i guess20:10
Beldarconall, Understandable, if it were me I would make sure to clone what is there, and if it's windows have a recovery disc made.20:10
ikoniaOerHeks: I think you need to know if the official ubuntu package is giving that script or not20:10
ikoniaotherwise it's just a pointless relationship to try to create20:10
jhutchinshikmat: In that case you might be able to figure out what the problem is by checking alt-F2 through Alt-F4 or using a live CD.  It's probably not setting up the NIC correctly.20:10
OerHeksno it does not, or i must be confused20:11
ikoniaOerHeks: ok - so why are you mentioning that script in relation to ubuntuuserhappy's problem20:11
conallhitsujiTMO , jhutchins, Beldar: thanks for the reply guys, I suppose ill stick with the standard package then. Thanks20:11
jhutchinshikmat: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html20:12
hikmatjhutchins: network is fine because if I put preseed.cfg file in place of ks.cfg in my local server then it's working..20:12
OerHeksikonia i mentioned it to him,and he confirmed20:13
hikmatactually I have installed ubuntu in fully automated mode using preseed file but I want perform some extra task like setting up ssh file in home folder20:14
jhutchinshikmat: Does preseed let you run post scripts?20:15
jhutchinshikmat: You have not given any details on how it fails.20:15
que1Hey guys I want to know what is the appropriate way to keep the icons for my recently compiled application, in /usr/share/pixmaps or /usr/share/icons/hicolor? I've seen there are some in /usr/share/pixmaps with different sizes. Is this recommended?20:15
basketballhow do i view only what i have said and what people have said to me20:16
hikmatJhutchins: when I pass kickstart file it continues to install but does not perform any task that I had specified in ks file20:16
hikmatjhutchins: That link has conflicting statement: The method supported by Anaconda of adding a plain "ks" boot parameter to work out the location of the Kickstart file from a DHCP response is not yet supported by the Ubuntu installer.20:16
hikmatWhat does that mean? ubuntu doesn't support ks parameter20:17
jhutchinshikmat: I would think it means it can't get the kickstart file location from DHCP.20:18
jhutchinshikmat: so you can't just tell it "ks", it has to be "ks=http://path.to.server/file"20:19
hitsujiTMOhikmat: what docs are you following? i think most have best luck with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer20:19
OerHeksbasketball, search your chatlog for your name, or ctrl + F in xchat to search20:20
jhutchinshikmat: Also, if you're using a hostname, you might not have DNS at that point - try the  IP.20:20
hikmatjhutchins: I am using IP20:20
Blanco_re20:20
jhutchinsOerHeks: Any way to do that with irssi?20:20
hitsujiTMOhikmat: is your network up at that point?20:20
hikmatyes20:21
jhutchinshikmat: Well, again, alternate consoles and maybe the installer log.20:21
bekksjhutchins: irssi can save logs, which are searchable using command line tools.20:21
ubuntuuserhappyikonia: the lxc-guest-setup script just calls lcx-create with some network and packages to install.  its one of the packages or more likely the lxc-create program that create the ubuntu user20:21
hikmatI am using following commands at boot prompt>> auto url=http://$IP:8082 locale=en_US keyboard-configuration/layoutcode=us console-setup/ask_detect=false hostname=vagrant-ubuntu domain=vagrant-ubuntu initrd=/install/initrd.gz ks=http://${IP}:8081"20:22
hikmat#sh ./htt20:22
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hikmat$IP=192.168.1.420:22
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: this is a concern IF if it putting the ubuntu user with default ubuntu password in pace from a script supplied by an official ubuntu package20:22
ubuntuuserhappyikonia: yep20:23
OerHeksjhutchins, logging is not activated standard http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup#c720:23
hitsujiTMOhikmat: i hope you're not using actual vars and that was there for obfuscation20:23
jhutchinshikmat: I don't see a ks command in there.20:23
jhutchinshikmat: I mean filename.20:24
jhutchinshikmat: I believe you need the filename, not just the address of the server.20:24
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coventryI updated a 13.04 machine, and can't get past the encryption key challenge during boot.  I can mount the encrypted drive from a rescue disc by following the cryptsetup instructions "tact" gives in this URL.  How can I diagnose what's failing during boot?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681&s=5adf91c296adb0844fdc1ddeb6c7d9ad&p=5448385#post544838520:25
jhutchinshikmat: That's because it can be <anything>.ks20:25
jhutchinsor .cfg20:25
hitsujiTMOcoventry: can you pastebin the output of: lspci -k20:26
hikmatjhutchins: I just provided the IP. actually I am installing Ubuntu in Virtualbox. I have run to netcat server with each providing preseed and ks respectively at 8081 and 8082.20:26
hikmattwo20:26
CaBahi20:26
coventryhitsujiTMO: Sorry, will have to ask agoin later.  Thanks for the suggestion.20:26
hikmatpreseeding is working with that way20:26
hikmatbut why not ks20:27
hitsujiTMOcoventry: there's a bug with initramfs that could be the cause of the problem20:27
CaBahow can i disable, system wide, that users can mount other filesystem on internal hard drives? users should still be able to mount usb storage and optical media though20:27
hikmatI just checked whether ks is coming or not just by typing nc 192.168.1.4:8082 in my host ..it's supplying content of ks.cfg20:27
hikmat*:20:28
OerHekscoventry, does your (usb)keyboard not work to give the encryptionkey ?20:29
ubuntuuserhappyiconia: ive confermed.  Running lxc-create -t ubuntu (the lxc package provided template) creates the ubuntu user with password ubuntu20:29
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: log a bug - mark it as a security bug20:30
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: unless the goal is that you are meant to change the password/delete the user upon login20:30
ubuntuuserhappyiconia: it warns you when you when you install it, but it get lost when installed with the common scripts, either way, dumb, where do i report  it as a bug?20:31
ikonia!bugs | ubuntuuserhappy20:31
ubottuubuntuuserhappy: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.20:31
mortrcaMy /etc/resolv.conf file has three nameserver entries. I thought having three in there meant that each nameserver would be queried until a match is found, but only the first entry in the list is queried.20:31
ubuntuuserhappyikonia: it looks like its supposed to be something like that20:31
mortrcaHow can I get queries to fall back on another server when the first one on the list fails?20:32
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: maybe worth checking the documentation then, as it could be uer error20:32
ikoniauser20:32
ubuntuuserhappyikonia: no matter what, its a terrible idea to create a default user/password on what is almost always going to be a server install20:33
hitsujiTMOmortrca: afaik its so that if it cannot access the first server it will try the second. not that if it cannot find20:33
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: not really, you need a default user/password to login, if you've not read the docs, it's user error, if it's not documented, then it's a bug20:33
mortrcahitsujiTMO: Okay, I guess that makes sense20:34
hitsujiTMOmortrca: theres no reason why the primary, secondary, or tertiary dns's should differ20:34
ubuntuuserhappyikonia: its a bad idea no matter what, there are other ways to accomplish that, prompting the user, or requiring and install parameter to create username/password20:36
ubuntuuserhappyikonia: its common enough that bots are searching for ubuntu servers with the ubuntu/ubuntu user/pass combination to root kit them20:36
ikoniaubuntuuserhappy: sure there are better ways, if you want to log it, log it20:36
jhutchinsubuntuuserhappy: Without knowing more about the situation I would agree with you, but I'd be a bit surprised if that were really the default.20:41
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giannisHI20:43
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jhutchinsubuntuuserhappy: Here's what I would do:  Do a fresh install and verify that this is in fact the default.  If it is, file a bugreport.20:44
jhutchinsubuntuuserhappy: If you find that it's a response you missed, it's still a hazard and you could report it.20:44
AmbiguousOutlierWhat is telepathy it is consuming 100% of one of my cores20:46
ubuntuuserhappyjhutchins: yeah, i think im going to do that, its very poorly documented in general, and I'm betting most people are like me and use the popular install scripts where the warning just gets lost20:46
ubuntuuserhappyjhutchins: yeah i did a fresh install with just the ubuntu installed program, its lxc-create with the ubuntu template that does it20:46
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asarandaany idea beacus i can0t reach the host with the sock 5 enabled?20:48
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AmbiguousOutlieris it safe to sudo apt-get remove telepathy20:49
bekksAmbiguousOutlier: If you want to uninstall telepathy, then yes.20:49
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AmbiguousOutlierbekks20:50
bekksAmbiguousOutlier: Look out for other applications that might be uninstalled prior pressing "y".20:50
AmbiguousOutlierbekks: well it's consuming all my resources20:50
jhutchinsubuntuuserhappy: Ah, that makes better sense.  VMs tend to be more isolated from the 'net.20:50
ubuntuuserhappyjhutchins: well some vms, but I really doubt lxc vms are, i would bet servers is the primary use of them20:51
AmbiguousOutlierwhat's telepathy got to do with irc?20:52
hikmatplain ks parameter is not supported at Ubuntu boot prompt. Am I wrong?20:56
ikoniawhat parameter ?20:57
quantshi guys, im having trouble loading 12.04 lts onto my netbook. its currently running windows 7 starter20:57
BeldarHi my computer does not boot, I have done no research, pleeeeeeeze help me. lol20:58
Beldarjust a joke20:58
ikoniait's not very funny or helpful, so please don't20:58
Beldarjust a representation of what we see by the minute here is all, I will not go any further.20:59
michaelnormanOk, so.......20:59
michaelnormanBroken pipe, could not write20:59
michaelnormanusb as hdd21:00
michaelnormanopinions?21:00
michaelnormanI'll get the actual error21:00
hitsujiTMO!details | michaelnorman21:00
ubottumichaelnorman: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:00
michaelnormannew at irc, sry21:00
michaelnormanrats, anyway21:00
Beldarmichaelnorman, we all start somewhere some details and context help.21:01
michaelnormanI am running Ubuntu (started with installing minimal install 30Mb iso, then installed ONLY ssh, apache minecraft server21:02
michaelnorman13.0421:02
michaelnormananyway21:02
hitsujiTMO13.04 isn't supported anymore. you need to upgrade.    where exactly are you seeing that message?21:02
michaelnormanBuilt the server out of a zombified laptop, core duo with one Gb Ram21:02
michaelnormanoh hi21:03
michaelnormanI am seeing it in application apachetop21:03
michaelnormanhow is 12.04 supportecd and 13.04 not5?21:03
michaelnormanrunning in RL 321:03
SwedeMikemichaelnorman: becuae 12.04 is a LTS (Long Term Support)21:03
felisfcatusmichaelnorman: 12.04 is LTS release21:03
hitsujiTMO12.04 is LTS (long term support) 13.04 only had 9 months support21:03
SwedeMike!lts21:03
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)21:03
michaelnormanoh21:03
quantsGuys, im having trouble loading 12.04 lts onto my netbook. its currently running windows 7 starter. ive made a USB copy but i doesn't seem to want to load. ?? Sorry Im a newb.21:04
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felisfcatusdammit, i really need to leanrn how those bot works21:04
michaelnormanquants; acer netbook?21:04
Beldarquants, THe usb does not boot?21:04
jhutchinsfelisfcatus: How did you make the USB?  Did you check the md5sum of the iso?21:04
felisfcatusjhutchins: uh, wrong person mate21:05
jhutchinsfelisfcatus: Sorry.21:05
michaelnormana story about my acer netbook; ctl + Alt + Delete exactly 3 times for usb to show up in boot menu21:05
jhutchinsquants: How did you make the USB?  Did you check the md5sum of the iso?21:05
jhutchinsfelisfcatus: /msg ubottu <factoid>21:06
quantsmichaelnorman  Beldar its a packard bell, details to follow, i cant work out why is doesnt work from usb.21:06
felisfcatusjhutchins: is there any way for me to get a list of factiods?21:06
quantsjhutchins im a newb, not sure what that means?21:07
hitsujiTMOfelisfcatus: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi21:07
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michaelnormanWhat is a broken pipe anyway? Obviously has to do with a data interupt21:07
Beldar!md5sum | quants21:08
ubottuquants: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows21:08
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michaelnormanThose netbooks can be so random21:08
michaelnormanteeency bios21:08
Beldarquants, Yu want to notice when people ask you multiple questions, and address them accordingly.21:09
BeldarYou*21:09
michaelnormanquants still there?21:10
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quantsmichaelnorman  Beldar  jhutchins, its a packard bell DOT SE, 1gb ram, 32-bit OS,21:13
quantsim hear!21:13
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coventrySorry, RL caught up with me there for a moment.  Asking again:21:15
coventryI updated a 13.04 machine, and can't get past the encryption key challenge during boot.  I can mount the encrypted drive from a rescue disc by following the cryptsetup instructions "tact" gives in this URL.  How can I diagnose what's failing during boot?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681&s=5adf91c296adb0844fdc1ddeb6c7d9ad&p=5448385#post544838521:16
coventryhitsujiTMO asked what the output of "lspci -k" is.  It's at http://pastebin.com/Bhj3UUi921:16
Beldarquants, The best questions here were asked by jhutchins can you answer these, "how did you load the iso to the usb, and have you checked the md5sum"21:16
coventryhikmat asked whether my keyboard is screwing up the passphrase: I'm using the same keyboard (the one built into the netbook) during rescue mode, so it's not a hugely likely explanation.21:17
abstractis there a way to refer to my router via a network interface, specifically to use with tcpdump for monitoring router port traffic21:18
bekksabstract: your router has to provide such a faciklity.21:18
bekks*facility21:18
bekksabstract: keep it in this channel please.21:19
quantsmichaelnorman  Beldar  jhutchins, im paying attention lol.  im just getting some info,  ok firstly, yes i just opened the boot menu and the sandisk usb hdd is top of the list.21:20
abstractnoob question then, how do you do the username: reply thing ... cant find it on google? is there like a beginner guide?21:20
GZA-GeniusI am running 14.04, I know its not supported or anything like that I just wanted to pop my head in and see if anyone else has come across this first, usually when I do a cold boot, when system has been off for a good amount of time, when I open the menu there are no applications listed when I type in any to search for them, or if I hit the application button filter it says sorry nothing matches... the usr/share/applications folder is still21:21
GZA-Geniusl full with all the apps and I can run them from there but not the unity menu. Now the even stranger part if I reboot everything goes back to normal and is fine.21:21
bekks!ubuntu+1 | GZA-Genius21:21
ubottuGZA-Genius: Trusty Tahr is the codename for Ubuntu 14.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+121:21
GZA-Geniusubottu, thankyou!21:21
quantsmichaelnorman  Beldar  jhutchins http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop I got the download from hear !21:22
ZeloZelosjoin #ubuntu+121:22
rannongaabstract: what do you mean username reply thing21:22
abstractwhen you just said that it says abstract: ... in red21:23
GZA-GeniusZeloZelos: got it tnx21:24
rannongaabstract just type the persons nick, it depends on the irc client what it does21:24
abstractrannonga: got it, thanks21:24
quantsmichaelnorman  Beldar  jhutchins if i enter the boot menu in windows by pressing F12 i see the USB, if i try and get that going it just starts to boot windows again21:26
Beldarquants, How did you put the iso on the usb?21:26
KakuradyWhere do I file a bug about the "nouveau" display driver and suspend/resume?21:26
Beldarquants, The download is the iso you will see it on it's name if that helps.21:27
Beldarquants, Chances are your netbook is also 32 bit is the download 32 bit?21:28
quantscan anybody give me the link I need to build a USB Install drive, i have made one already but im not sure its the correct file as its not working.?21:30
mmfunetbootin21:30
mmfI always use unetbootin and works perfectly21:30
mmfIt's cross platform, so it should work for you, whatever OS you're running.21:30
Beldarquants, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/21:31
Beldar!who |mmf21:31
ubottummf: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)21:31
quantsBardar i downloaded the 32 bit info21:31
Beldarquants, You can tab complete nicks, try the unetbootin app to load the usb.21:31
quantsok Beldar21:32
mmfBeldar, quants, lol bardar..21:32
Beldarquants, Did you see the md5sum info from the bot to you?21:33
quantsBeldar sorry im a little slow....21:33
Beldarmmf, What you posted was hardly helpful, no links and no nicks, it is not a lol on this channel.21:33
mmfBeldar, I said "lol" because I found funny that he called you Bardar instead of Beldar. Also, I don't think it was very hard for him to google "unetbootin".21:35
skeepnitwhat's the difference?21:35
LeeMerrimanHow do I get OpenGL working in Ubuntu? Game seems to be crashing due to a lack of it21:35
gogyI NEED HELP ! can someone please assist me in private window because its easier for me to follow and thanks21:35
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: what GPU do you have?21:36
mmfBeldar, I didn't know about IRC "ettiquete", so I didn't tab his nick. If there were more people taking, I probably would have done that, but ya..21:36
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: GTX Titan21:36
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: sudo lshw -C display ,will tell you21:36
mmfgogy, you should probably leave the question on this chat though, so we know if we're able to help you or not.21:36
ActionParsnipGogy: what is the issue, state your issue and people may advise21:37
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: product: GK110 [GeForce GTX Titan]21:37
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: no Intel gpu as well.21:37
werewolvehello21:37
quantsBeldar - this is the file - ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-i386 (1).iso21:37
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: Not according to that.21:37
werewolvemy ubuntu does not have the eth0 drivers21:38
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: what does it say after 'driver=' ?21:38
werewolvemy ubuntu does not have the eth0 drivers, so i have to install it, can someone help me?21:38
Xaiteccan someone help me fix ubuntu-one?21:38
Beldarquants, Cool, did you see the md5sum info from the bot as well.21:38
ActionParsnipwerewolve: what Ethernet controller do you use?21:38
malimbarXaitec: what's wrong with it?21:38
werewolvethe one on mobo21:38
werewolveand  one wireless21:38
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: configuration: driver=nouveau (Also, Unity is hell.)21:38
Beldar!details | Xaitec21:39
ubottuXaitec: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:39
Xaitecmalimbar, it keeps pausing21:39
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: try: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current ,then reboot21:39
straemer@Xaitec, I'm getting that problem too. Help on that would be nice :)21:39
Xaitecrunning ubuntu 13.10 x6421:39
werewolve38621:39
OerHeksXaitec, i think you suffer this bug too https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/128275921:40
Xaitecit worked fine and then when i added a folder it just keeps pausing21:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1282759 in Ubuntu One Client "Ubuntu One sync is broken, and no informative status can be found" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:40
werewolvei have 2 pc, one lap and a old box21:40
werewolvethe ubuntu is 3221:40
Xaitecthats not cool p.q21:41
werewolveubuntu 32 gets 192.168.2.139 and it should be 192.168.0.somesome21:41
ActionParsnipwerewolve: sudo lshw cC network ,will tell you the Ethernet controller. Simply saying 'onboard' isnt precise enough21:41
werewolvethanks21:41
ActionParsnipwerewolve: sorry21:41
ActionParsnipwerewolve: sudo lshw -C network21:41
werewolveok21:42
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quantsBeldar im so confused :(21:43
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werewolvei have pci gigabit ethernet controller, realtek21:43
idgarhelp21:44
idgaroops21:44
Beldarquants, In what way?21:44
trinodeI'm not sure if this is the best place to ask, but when virtualbox is installed my laptop uses 15W without virtualbox installed it uses < 9W, I'd totally expect it to be the case when VB is running / I have a VM booted, but this is simply installed, not running (except the kernel modules)21:44
trinodeany ideas if that's somehow expected?21:44
idgardude, virtualbox virtual machines always "tick" in front of the CPU21:45
compdoctrinode, must have installed some services that run. what does top show?21:45
trinodetop shows nothing21:45
bekksThen something is broken, if top shows nothing :)21:45
idgartop must show virtualbox process21:46
trinodeI'm almost convinced it kernel modules21:46
trinodeidgar: VB IS NOT RUNNING21:46
trinodesimply installed21:46
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trinodeand the kernel modules loaded21:46
bekksidgar: No. Not until a vm is running.21:46
idgartry ps aux | grep "virtualbox"21:46
trinodeno vm or ui21:46
bekkstrinode: Try unloading the kernel modules.21:46
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: Now I just have a blinking underscore21:46
idgarunloading the kernel modules can be a smart idea21:46
idgarquit21:46
quantsBeldar ok, i think i have the correct file now, (ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-i386 (1).iso), now what do i have to do with it to get it to load?  sorry information overload :)21:47
voozeHey guys. I need to patch my system (or possible linux kernel) with the patch from this: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64541 - how do I patch?21:47
ubottubugzilla.kernel.org bug 64541 in Wireless "Intel Wireless 7260 hardware timed out (lcpci -xxx returns 0xff) randomly" [Normal,Resolved: code_fix]21:47
mmfquants, Have you downloaded unetbootin?21:48
ActionParsnip!patch | vooze21:49
ubottuvooze: Patches are files describing the changes in code to achieve some results.  There are a number of ways these can be produced, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix and http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/patches-to-packages.html may provide some useful guidelines.21:49
gogyI have same as this problem  but with TP-link TLWN422G    http://askubuntu.com/questions/148459/12-04-bcm4312-and-aireplay-ng-airodump-ng21:49
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LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: I have nothing but a blinking _ on my screen now..21:50
Beldarquants, Try using unetbootin to put the iso on the usb http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/21:50
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: try booting to root recovery mode and run: nvidia-xconfig; reboot21:50
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: How?21:50
Blanco_re21:50
hikmatI am using this as late_command in ubuntu preseeding file but failing to execute what's wrong with this >>>>.d-i preseed/late_command string echo 'vagrant   ALL=(ALL)  ALL' >> /etc/sudoers && echo 'UseDNS no' >> /etc/ssh/sshd_config && mkdir /home/vagrant/.ssh && wget -O /home/vagrant/.ssh/authorized_keys 'https://raw.github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/master/keys/vagrant.pub' && chmod 755...21:50
hikmat.../home/vagrant/.ssh && chmod 644 /home/vagrant/.ssh/authorized_keys && chown -R vagrant:vagrant /home/vagrant/.ssh21:50
ActionParsnipwerewolve: ok, run lspci ,maybe that will help identify the chip.21:51
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: hold SHIFT at boot.21:51
gogyI have same as this problem  but with TP-link TLWN422G    http://askubuntu.com/questions/148459/12-04-bcm4312-and-aireplay-ng-airodump-ng21:51
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: Error unable to write to directory21:51
gogyI have same as this problem  but with TP-link TLWN422G    http://askubuntu.com/questions/148459/12-04-bcm4312-and-aireplay-ng-airodump-ng   HELP ???21:52
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: run: mount -o remont,rw /; nvidia-xconfig; reboot21:52
Beldargogy, wifi cracking tools are not supported here.21:53
ActionParsniphikmat: why 644 on the SsH key file? Why would youbwan other users to have any access to your SSH key files?21:53
quantsBeldar mmf sorry guys its the end of a 17 hour day for me :/ ill get there in the end.21:54
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: Same blinking line21:54
mmfquants, try this link http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/install-linux-with-ease-using-unetbootin/21:55
mmfhopefully it explains things enough to get you moving! :P21:55
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: then i would uninstall the nvidia named packages and delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:56
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: you may need the remount command again21:56
guntberthikmat: thats difficult to read in the channel - better use a pastebin21:56
mmfquants, Ignore my last link and check this one instead: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/using-unetbootin-to-create-a-linux-usb-from-linux/21:56
gogy<Beldar>  DO you mean i shouldn't have  installed  aircrack suite under ubuntu  ??21:57
mmfquants, go to method 2, as you already downloaded the iso.21:57
Beldargogy, You can do what you want, however the support of getting it to work/crack is not here is all.21:57
Beldargogy, The install part is supported if needed, but the use is not is all.21:58
gogy <Beldar>  it's not working means it's not been installed correctly !!21:59
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Beldargogy, Just a fine line of support is all. We don't know how you will use it, like to check your own stuff, or crack a neighbor or someone in the general public, so we have limitations.22:01
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: How do I remove the Nvidia packages22:01
gogy<Beldar> I am doing penetration testing at  my home in my AP ,22:03
olskolircare you on Kali gogy?22:04
Beldargogy, I have never used it so can't help there, my responses have been to point out the limitations the channel has is all.22:04
gogy <olskolirc> no22:04
Beldar!tab | gogy22:04
ubottugogy: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:04
OerHeksgogy, you need to do some reading, not all wireless adapters/drivers support those testingtools22:05
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep nvidia | awk {'print $2'}`22:06
LeeMerriman|2ActionParsnip: Well, I deleted nvidia-* and deleted X11.conf and I'm back with a GUI now, so there's that..22:06
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quantsBeldar: this sucks!22:07
quantsBeldar: Im too tired to focus, thanks for your help but ill have to get this sorted another time :)22:08
Beldarquants, Can be frustrating, if you have any friends dual booting I would work with them.22:09
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: Do I try installing them again or?22:10
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: that will take you back where you were a minute ago.....22:10
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue22:10
Beldarquants, Just getting the iso on the usb and booted is the easiest part, you may have to do some more work that is much harder. For example I would bet the HD has 4 primary partitions, so you will have to move things around to get a ubuntu installed.22:11
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l22:11
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: does the system have a make and model?22:12
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: If you mean mine, it's a custom-built gaming PC.22:12
hikmatguntbert: thanks22:13
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: i see. Not sure. You'll probably need the propriatary video driver to make it run better.22:14
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: I downloaded from the nvidia website, but it's a .run file and I have no idea what to do with that so..22:15
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: if you feel brave, you could try the xorg edgers update ppa (less fresh more stable)22:16
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: if you drop to root recovery mode you can run that file from nvidia, it is a binary. You'll need to mark it executable22:16
Grzy7316I am trying to get ubuntu working on this laptop22:17
Grzy7316http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ideapad-s415-touch-14-touch-screen-laptop-4gb-memory-500gb-hard-drive/3002005.p;jsessionid=D2BFB628E6117AEEF2BACCA4664CBE0E.bbolsp-app02-109?id=1219085626825&skuId=3002005&st=lenovo%20s415%20touch&cp=1&lp=122:17
Grzy7316I tried both ubuntu and kubuntu images, neither one would boot22:17
rannongaGrzy7316: SECURE BOOT22:18
Grzy7316alrewady diabled it22:18
wonderworldLeeMerriman: cd /path/to/nvidia-run-file; chmod +x ./*.run; ./*.run22:18
Grzy7316also, when I error checed my image, it said errors found in one file. I redownloaded the image and made a new unetbootin error, still getting the same thing22:18
Ben64LeeMerriman: so why are you not using the driver in the repositories?22:20
MastermindLTJ-, I have an idea to save my drive: what if I install ubuntu on it and see what happens? it seems it is letting me do it22:20
LeeMerrimanBen64: Is there a driver i nthe repo somewhere that isn't going to explode X again?22:20
Ben64LeeMerriman: define "explode"22:21
LeeMerrimanBen64: ActionParsnip had me install nvidia-latest or something similar and all I had after that was a blinking _ until I deleted X11.conf and uninstalled nvidia-*22:22
ActionParsnipGrzy7316: try the boot option: radeon.blacklist=122:23
Grzy7316ok. will do22:23
Grzy7316how do I set boot options?22:23
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ActionParsnipGrzy7316: changing between Ubuntu and Kubuntu will not make it boot diffetent. Under the hood they a 100% the same, only the default desktop is different. That bit never loads so is not a fix22:24
ActionParsnip!bootoptions | Grzy731622:24
ubottuGrzy7316: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions See also !nomodeset.22:24
Grzy7316I just know I had issues with some drivers in the past on kubuntu that worked on ubuntu.22:25
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: could try the bleeding edge PPA, may help. Could try the file you have downloaded22:25
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BeldarGrzy7316, Just to be thorough, have you seen the uefi wiki as well?22:26
LeeMerrimanActionParsnip: I haven't used Ubuntu in a very long time, could you possibly explain more (How to try it, etc)22:26
luilakde1eHello. I'm using gnome classic, nvidia proprietary drivers and I'm having immense issues with tearing. Currently trying to watch a lower quality video, but the tearing is just unbearable. Any ideas as how to solve this?22:26
Grzy7316I have looked at it before22:27
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: its a 3rd party package source. A websearch will tell you this. Not used the internet to research new terms in a ling time either?22:27
LeeMerrimanOh good, glad to see the amount of "helpers" who turn to assholes so suddenly hasn't changed a bit. Yay.22:28
IdleOneLeeMerriman: Please keep the language clean22:28
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-33122:28
julianmiaI am trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 on my laptop alongside Windows XP Home edition. I installed the CD boot helper because the laptop wouldn't boot from my flash drive and installed ubuntu on /dev/sda6 with swap space on /dev/sda5. Anyways, I installed Ubuntu and it isn't showing up in the boot menu. Is the linux partition style not recognized by Windows? What can I do to get Ubuntu working?22:29
ActionParsnipLeeMerriman: you are asking questions which you can find out online rather than tie up helpers when its something you can so easily find out yourself.22:29
ActionParsnipjulianmia: XP has about 90 days support left. Why not take this opportunity to get rid22:30
julianmiaActionPartnership: I'm donating the computer22:31
LeeMerrimanAnd now I remember why I switched away from Ubuntu. Dicks everywhereeeeeee22:31
ActionParsnipjulianmia: you can use a burning software to make a liveCD of the ISO you downloaded?22:31
julianmiaActionParsnip: I used UNetBootin to install the live cd iso image on my flash drive.22:32
griszawhats the best book for starting study java ?22:33
ActionParsnipgrisza: try in #java22:33
griszaActionParsnip, can You expalin ?22:34
ActionParsnipjulianmia: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?22:34
ActionParsnipgrisza: this is Ubuntu support.22:34
julianmiaActionParsnip: What is that?22:34
ActionParsnipgrisza: so asking about Java books is not Ubuntu support, its Java. So the Java channel will be able to advise22:35
griszaok sorry22:35
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ActionParsnip!md5 | julianmia22:35
ubottujulianmia: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows22:35
griszajoin #java22:35
CygnusX1I have a question about an error on 12.04 lts22:35
CygnusX1Om boot, I get the  *ERROR* mismatch in gmch_pfit.lvds_border_bits (expected 32768, found 0)22:36
julianmiaCyngusXL:me too22:36
ActionParsnipCygnusX1: are there any bugs reported?22:36
basketballhey my pc only has 1 gb of ram if i add more swap space does that increase ram22:37
daftykinsno22:37
CygnusX1yes, I have seen it a lot but no fix22:37
daftykinsbasketball: it increases the potential for you to pull your hair out at an incredibly slow PC22:37
Beldarbasketball, No it increases swap22:38
ActionParsnipCygnusX1: i suggest you subscribe to one and add a "this affects me too" comment22:38
Beldarbasketball, You have to add more memory to have more memory.22:38
mybuntuwin 122:38
basketballBeldar,  how do i add virtual ram like in windows22:39
CygnusX1ok22:39
greeteri never really understood how swap space worked... truthfully i followed an article to set my swap size :-S22:39
ActionParsnipbasketball: you will want at least 2Gb swap. With 1Gb RAM I would swap from Gnome to LXDE if you are using Gnome22:39
ActionParsnipgreeter: do you know about page files in Windows?22:39
TJ-CygnusX1: julianmia It is a known issue and those Intel driver bugs are still being worked out as we speak; they affect Linux 3.13 as well22:40
Beldarbasketball, never heard of it, and it can't be even close to what ram is in it's speed. Find the max the computer allows and buy it.22:40
julianmiayeah22:40
basketballActionParsnip,  i want to be able to run another instance of ubuntu in vm22:40
CygnusX1Thank you TJ22:40
greeterafraid not ActionParsnip, i haven't used windows since 2003, forgotten most of what i knew22:40
ActionParsnipbasketball: withn1Gb RAM you will struggle22:40
ActionParsnipGreeter: RAM fills with data and applications. The swap is then used. Data is sapped from the RAM to the swap space on the disk and the data to be worked on is moved to RAM.22:41
nikolamI have trouble deleting one BTRFS subvolume (I am now on 13.10, but it is leftover form 12.04->12.10 upgrade), it is called "@apt-snapshot-release-upgrade-quantal-2012-11-20_09:07:40" and I can not delete it22:41
ActionParsnipgreeter: when the stuff in swap is needed, some of the data in RAM is swapped to the swap space and the data is moved from swap to the RAM22:42
Beldarnikolam, You on a live cd/usb doing it?22:42
greeterok, hence the name swap22:42
ecdhehas anyone here written a ./configure file before?22:42
nikolamBeldar, no, I am booted from that BTRFS22:42
ActionParsnipgreeter: why do you think your drive thrashes when you run a lot of applications?22:42
basketballActionParsnip,  where is ram cheap22:42
TJ-CygnusX1: julianmia For the background see https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/1/7/45222:42
Beldarnikolam, You have to have in dismounted to delete.22:42
ecdheAs in, `./configure && make' ?22:43
Beldarit*22:43
greeteri've never given it much thought to be honest. my computer is so old that i can't run a lot of applications anyway22:43
ActionParsnipbasketball: everywhere. You can get another 1Gb for the price of 2 beers.22:43
Grzy7316using radeon.blacklist=1 still did not do the trick. I am still getting a black screen no backlight22:43
nikolamBeldar, you think I could delete it if I boot from live media?  Since i have active @ as boot subvolume22:43
basketballActionParsnip,  how much is ram22:43
nikolamok then Beldar22:43
Beldarnikolam, Can't be deleted if mounted at the least, use a live cd22:43
ActionParsnipbasketball: about 10 - 15 pounds for a gig or two22:43
basketballus22:44
ActionParsnipGrzy7316: you could try: nomodeset22:44
nikolamOk, I will use live CD, but I don't understand how it is mounted, when I use @ mounted at /22:44
Grzy7316will  try that next22:44
basketballActionParsnip,  what is swap22:44
ActionParsnipbasketball: wat do you mean 'us'22:45
julianmiaActionParsnip:lots of errors like no such file or directory or can't open file.22:45
Beldarnikolam, If I understand you, you are on the partition you want to delete am I correct?22:45
hewhomustunited states22:45
ActionParsnipbasketball: virtual memory on the drive used when physical ram fills up22:45
basketballso can i use that to run vm22:45
nikolamBeldar, System is booted from @ subvolume, like it supposed to. And ther is one other subvolume, leftover snapshot from previous upgrades22:45
ActionParsnipbasketball: yes but your drive is dog slow compared to ram. It will thrash like mad and both host and guest OS will run badly22:46
greeterbasketball: it seems to me if running a vm, you should never use more than half of your physical ram if it can be avoided. that offers best performance22:46
nikolamit is not partition what is a matter. Btrfs have unlimited number of subvolumes, separate mountable file systems and one happens to be root, thet is @22:46
Beldarnikolam, I have never used that file system, hardly anyone here has as well so all I can say is a mounted partition wont delete.22:46
basketballgreeter, ubuntu takes 500mb so 500 + 500 = 1 gb22:47
MastermindLguys, do you have any ideas about how to access a HDD that shows partition table as unrecognized and I can create partition table on gparted because it says unrecognised disk label ?22:47
basketballgreeter,  i dont have that]22:47
ActionParsnipbasketball: cpuld use Lubuntu :-)22:47
MastermindLcan't*22:47
nikolamBeldar, ok thank anyway, but since it could be able to use it by default during install in 14.04, you should get used to it.22:47
greeteri use lubuntu because i thought regular ubuntu required at least 1 gig of ram. i only have half that22:47
ActionParsnipbasketball: to get any sort of performance you'll need more RAM22:47
Beldarnikolam, lol, what a bogus statement good luck.22:49
Beldarbtrfs will not be a default in ubuntu for a very long time22:50
Grzy7316When I put nomodeset into the parameters on booting, it goes through the splah screen and then leaves me at a terminal. Its progress, but when I try tostart x server, I get Fatal server error, no screens found22:51
nikolamBeldar, well it could be in SUSE enterprise, Oracle Linux and I think RedHat. and I got some confirmation before, it could be used by default in 14.04, so..  :P22:52
nikolamI have it since 12.04 but upgraded to 12.10 at a time for soem features (live migration from raid0 to raid1 :P22:53
BeldarGrzy7316, I notice you are not using the nicks of who you answer, you get lost this way, you can tab complete nicks.22:55
BeldarGrzy7316, Have you summed the iso's you have downloaded?22:55
Grzy7316going to do that now22:56
Beldar!who | Grzy7316 just a reminder22:56
ubottuGrzy7316 just a reminder: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)22:56
basketballwhat is the command to install virtual machine22:57
basketball!virtualbox22:57
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox22:57
Grzy7316Beldar sorry about that22:57
BeldarGrzy7316, No biggie, just want you to get installed. ;)22:58
Grzy7316Beldar, I just checked the MD5 sums, and they are the same22:59
BeldarGrzy7316, So is this still a no boot?23:00
wafflejock__basketball: I have walk through doing some web development tool setup inside of VirtualBox here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA might be helpful, basically you are just installing VirtualBox then making a new disk image file and installing Ubuntu using an ISO23:00
Grzy7316I am booted, I just have no working x server23:01
BeldarGrzy7316, booted to a cli right?23:02
Grzy7316Beldar I am booted, jusst no x server23:02
Grzy7316yes23:02
Grzy7316and when I try to start x, it gives me an error and tells me to check the log, but when I try to open tyhe log I get permission denied23:02
al_exquemelinpart23:03
julianmiaI am trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 on my laptop alongside Windows XP Home edition. I installed the CD boot helper because the laptop wouldn't boot from my flash drive and installed ubuntu on /dev/sda6 with swap space on /dev/sda5. Anyways, I installed Ubuntu and it isn't showing up in the boot menu. Is the linux partition style not recognized by Windows? What can I do to get Ubuntu working?23:03
BeldarGrzy7316, Not sure where to go from there. If it were me I would be looking on the web with that computer model and the release, looking for others with the same problem, askubuntu is a good search for this stuff.23:03
Grzy7316Beldar I havebeen looking for this model, have yet to find much of anything23:04
BeldarGrzy7316, This a usb? If so how are you loading it?23:04
Grzy7316I am loading it on with unetbootin from on my windows machine23:04
basketballnothing else is open Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?23:04
Grzy7316beldar sorry I keep forgetting to put names in when replying23:05
BeldarGrzy7316, I would try another usb loader to just knock out variables, pendrivelinux has several.23:05
BeldarGrzy7316, takes a bit to get used to the nicks, you are doing fine. ;)23:06
Grzy7316Beldar ok. I will give that a go. I just set up a desktop server for use at home, and have been setting up ubuntu boxes since hoary. This is sadly the first time ive ever run into a problem where I had to try to ask for help23:06
Grzy7316I may look into trying to make a usb installer on my kubuntu box23:07
BeldarGrzy7316, Hmm, that is strange, I suspect it is a uefi thing maybe, here is a good thread on multiple options and vendors. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295 Just a guess though since it is a no X scenario23:08
BeldarGrzy7316, Is the startup disc creator on kubuntu?23:09
julianmiaI am trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 on my laptop alongside Windows XP Home edition. I installed the CD boot helper because the laptop wouldn't boot from my flash drive and installed ubuntu on /dev/sda6 with swap space on /dev/sda5. Anyways, I installed Ubuntu and it isn't showing up in the boot menu. Is the linux partition style not recognized by Windows? What can I do to get Ubuntu working?23:10
Grzy7316Beldar I would have to step over to my server to check. give me a moment23:10
BeldarGrzy7316, It is a gui is all.23:10
Beldarjulianmia, You can still boot the live ubuntu?23:11
unstableOn ubuntu I can tile windows by doing control + alt + numpad, that works great. How can i do the same thing on my laptop when I have no numpad?23:11
julianmiaBeldar: Yes, only when the flash drive is connected to the laptop23:12
nikolamBeldar, trick with undeletable Btrfs subvolume, was to mount it again at separate location (/mnt) with -osubvolid=0 option (sudo mount -osubvolid=0 /dev/sdb6 /mnt) and then one can delete affecting subvolume from there (ls /mnt, sudo btrfs subvolume delete /mnt/@apt-snapshot-release-upgrade-quantal-2012-11-20_09:07:40) :))23:12
Beldarjulianmia, Use this app to see if it fixes the boot, save the bootinfo summary for additional help if needed. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair23:12
fhfHi. My friend is having trouble with PlayOnLinux. It keeps saying  "unable to find 32 bit opengl libraries" while libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa-glx are installed. Anyone know sollutino?23:13
jbmunstable my laptop has a number pad embedded in the regular alphanumeric keys. i hit the FN key to active it23:13
unstablejbm: right, but this ubuntu hotkey specifically uses the numpad keys23:14
SailorRhow do I find out where irssi was installed on my system?23:15
SailorRfrom the terminal23:15
unstablenot the number keys above qwerty, which I also have23:15
SailorRim looking for where the scripts would be placed23:15
unstablejbm: nevermind, I found it. control + super + lrud23:15
wafflejock__SailorR: you can use dpkg -L to see the contents of a particular package you installed, not famiilar with irssi though23:16
SailorRthx23:17
unstablehmm, it doesn't let me resize into a corner position though.23:17
Grzy7316Beldar I do have the startup disk creator, I will attempt that if an attempt with uui doesnt work23:17
wafflejock__unstable: should be ctrl+alt+numpad I believe, using KDE/Kubuntu now so I had to do some things to get it working here too (numpad bug)23:18
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unstablewafflejock__: I'm on a laptop without a numpad23:20
wafflejock__unstable: ah gotcha believe you may need to get ccsm the compiz config settings manager to more easily change the keybindings if you want to set something up for snap to corners23:21
serrus_anyone use gnome classic as their DE?23:22
spectrehello23:28
Beldar!anyone | serrus_23:32
ubottuserrus_: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.23:32
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Beldar!away > a1|away23:39
ubottua1|away, please see my private message23:39
User2Hi guys, will ubuntu 14.04 support standard the ability to tag files in the file-browser23:49
daftykins!trusty | User223:53
ubottuUser2: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+123:53
kikjezrousi haven't heard of it; but i'd like it.23:53
kikjezrousyou should look into nautilus's planned release notes, or whatever 14.04 is transitioning to23:54

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