=== jared_ is now known as jared [03:32] hola [03:32] hello [03:33] Howdy. [03:33] I put lubuntu in the computers of my school [03:33] thanks :D [04:25] hey all, mute button mutes, but fails to unmute. its because i have 5.1 hooked up, i know that [08:50] I have a rather annoying question about wireless connection. Can anyone lend a hand? [08:52] I downloaded Lubuntu 10.3 onto what was originally a Windows XP laptop, and it went smoothly. However, Network Manager has vanished and refuses to install. [08:53] From the Terminal it is also unable to identify the firmware-b43-installer. What gives? [09:51] hi === phunyguy_ is now known as phunyguy === yofel_ is now known as yofel === leszek_ is now known as leszek === phillw is now known as Guest77738 === phillw is now known as Guest29083 [19:17] Hello [19:18] ... I am having some issues with Chromium... most pages crash [19:18] including the help page [19:18] what does it say when crashing its dead jim? [19:22] "Aw, Snap!" [19:23] "Something went wrong while displaying this webpage. To continue, reload or go to another page." [19:23] the "suggestions" just takes me to a support page that does the same thing [19:23] oddly enough, the extensions store and 4chan work just fine [19:33] what version of lubuntu? [19:37] 13.04 [19:38] just installed [19:40] could try `chromium-browser --disable-plugins` [19:43] I'm running chromium on a old Pentium III laptop and it's extremly slow, any suggestions on making it less cpu and resource intensive? [19:43] eletious: also might want to look at your memory [19:44] wxl: what about my memory? [19:44] ewout: don't use chromium! or at least don't use the plugins. or use xombrero/xxxterm. maybe a wee less userfriendly but a lot more better with resources [19:45] eletious: sometimes those warnings pop up because you lack enough memory to complete the task the plugin is trying to do, i.e. you might want to add some memory. [19:45] considering this is a fresh install on a 16GB flash drive with 1G swap, on an AMD E450 with 4GB of RAM [19:45] eletious: let me rephase: free memory [19:45] meaning unused [19:46] but Chromium and Xchat are the only two things running [19:46] and it happens no matter the number of tabs running [19:46] Thanks wxl, i'll look into xombrero :) [19:46] Does it have decent HTML5 support? [19:47] ewout: it's probably not going to be as great as chromium or firefox, but it will handle most things well [19:47] Thanks aqain! :) [19:47] np [19:53] so... nothin? === JasonO_ is now known as JasonO [20:55] Hi! I have mac mini power pc. Can someone tell me how to install ati graphic card for that machine. Now I use vesa xorg.conf [21:09] Slit_: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Configure_graphics [21:11] When I type this: Linux video=ofonly in boot screen then it looks like that everything is working. But that is just for one sesion. After rebooting, then graphic again isn't working [21:12] Slit_: in grub when booting [21:13] I think so ianorlin [21:19] oh did you see the part on how do I make a yaboot parameter permenant on the FAQ? [21:20] Yes, but I don't have yaboot.conf on my computer. That is, i can't finde it [21:28] This ppc is terrible [21:28] Slit_: did you look in /boot? [21:30] Slit_: er sorry, /etc/yaboot.conf -- if it's not there, you can always create it (it should be there). here's an example: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1798792&page=3&p=11108858#post11108858 [21:30] Slit_: here's lots of info, too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=994882 [21:31] Slit_: don't forget to use ybin when you're done editing! [21:31] Slit_: also, linux on ppc is not easy. but outside of bsd, there's little hope for the machine otherwise. [21:32] wxl It is in etc folder :-) I don't know wy computer didn't finde it when I serch for it [21:33] Slit_: sudo find / -iname yaboot.conf should have got you there [21:33] Yes, Linux is the last hope [21:33] No wxl, I open PCMan, teh search [21:33] Slit_: or bsd, as i said. there are bsds that actually support ppc. with linux, it's community supported, which is to say, generally unsupported. [21:33] Slit_: oh, well, that's the unfun way ;) [21:34] bsd? [21:34] Slit_: unit [21:34] Never tryed [21:34] s/unit/unix/g [21:34] Slit_: openbsd, freebsd, and especially netbsd (which claims it can pretty much run on anything) are all good choices [21:35] Slit_: freebsd is the core of os x, albeit tweaked by apple [21:35] Slit_: there are many similarities between linux and unix and also many tiny annoying differences so if you're already used to linux, i'd try to stick with it [21:36] Slit_: i'd say package management, for one, is a lot more user friendly on linux [21:36] I don't know, I tought ubuntu is more supported. Tell me wxl, what sholud I do, when I open yaboot.conf. Yes I would like to stick to lubuntu for now [21:37] Slit_: ppc is only community supported on ubuntu. it is not officially supported. [21:37] Slit_: you have a line under the image section that starts with append=? [21:37] yes I notice [21:38] Yes, ther is append to times [21:38] Slit_: so at the end of that line (before the quote) add a space and enter in video=ofonly" [21:38] i assume one of them is using vmlinux.old. if so, you can just repeat the options on both [21:39] yes wmlinux.old is one. [21:40] Colud you copy past wxl [21:40] :-) [21:40] don't want to screw somthing [21:41] Slit_: i don't have a present example on my own ppc machine [21:41] Slit_: but if you had append="root=/dev/sda4 ro quiet splash" you would change it to append="root=/dev/sda4 ro quiet splash video=ofonly" [21:41] Slit_: in other words, keep what was there but add to the end [21:41] append="quiet splash video=ofonly" is this ok [21:42] yes [21:42] What sholud I do with xorg.conf [21:42] for the time being nothing [21:43] i would sort of go through the FAQ sequentially [21:43] do what you need only [21:43] Ok [21:44] I wil reboot now? To see if everything works [21:44] Ok? [21:44] yep [21:44] see you in a minute [21:48] wxl, nothing happend [21:48] Slit: ah, i forgot to ask, did you use ybin? [21:49] No [21:49] Slit: that's the problem. double check /etc/yaboot.conf and see if your video=ofonly is still there [21:50] yes it is there [21:50] Slit: now do "sudo ybin -v" [21:50] Slit: and then restart [21:50] Ok, I did it. Now reboot agian [21:50] see you in minute [21:51] k [22:00] wxl, I am not sure if it is working. After I reboot it. I get something new in Monitor seting. Option for DVI. That is good. But no option to set on higher resolution. Second, my machine foroze, so I have to reboot again and now I am here [22:00] Slit_: where did it freeze? [22:01] Everything forze. i coludn't move mouse, use keybord etc... [22:01] When I enter in Lubuntu [22:01] I tryed to go on Internet [22:02] Now it is a bit, how do you say, laggy [22:03] Slit_: the curious thing about this is that putting video=ofonly in yaboot.conf is the same as putting it in the grub line [22:03] Slit_: so honestly it's probably unreleated [22:04] Slit_: you should use the process manager and see what's consuming the resources [22:11] wxl, can we undo what we did. Again, mac mini froze [22:11] now I am on my windows machine [22:18] wxl, are you here? [22:23] does control alt f1 drop you into a log in for a terminal on the mac mini? [22:24] or was it at boot? [22:26] ianorlin don't know. I delete what I add in yaboot.conf [22:26] the I reboote few times. Now it looks alright [22:35] It froze agine ianorlin [22:36] Was this mac mini given enough air and everything else are you sure it is not an overheating problem [22:36] did it go longer the first time? [22:37] does the fan run? [22:38] No i think it is yaboot. Now I will enter again sudo ybin -v [22:38] ok [23:36] hey guys coming from 14.04! [23:37] nice [23:37] the workspace switcher looks pretty buggy, but I like that hexchat is included in the repos now, (idk when it was added) [23:37] is 14.04 stable? (complete newbie to lubuntu) [23:37] I just got on it, but no major changes are happening so I think it's pretty stable [23:38] hmm. i wonder if there's a command line option to upgrade to it [23:38] all the dev work on LXDE switched to LXQT so 14.04 is pretty simular [23:38] Not quite, pcmanfm just had a nice big release. [23:39] greeter: It's not considered "stable" yet, though it might be for some. [23:39] greeter: do-release-upgrade -d [23:39] oh i see. hmm, i'll have to remember that for when the next stable release is out [23:39] -d = development release. [23:39] since my cd drive broke since installing lubuntu it isn't really an option to set it up that way [23:40] ok, so if i want the next stable release (when it's available) i'd omit -d? [23:40] Yes. [23:40] I used a usb drive [23:40] ok cool... hope i'm smart enough to read the topic [23:40] did you boot from the usb drive? [23:40] yup [23:40] ah. my computer is so old i don't think that's an option [23:41] I actually had to use my raspberrypi to make the usb since my normal computer was messedup :p [23:42] lol i see... well i'm hoping this one doesn't get messed up... [23:42] to re-install lubuntu i'd have to take it apart, then put in a cd/dvd drive temporarily, then run it in that kind of disassembled condition until the install is done [23:42] i'd remove the broken cd drive myself and replace it, but that can only be done if i remove the power supply and i'm not skilled enough to do that [23:43] also this just happened on first run of firefox: [23:43] oh no it didn't copy [23:43] something about a python3 thing being out of date [23:43] i had issues with the latest firefox updates too. firefox always crashed. i switched to chromium [23:44] have issues with audacity i can't track down either since reinstalling lubuntu [23:45] ran fine the first time i installed lubuntu. but now if i try to run it i get a bus error :-S [23:45] ouch [23:45] greeter: what audio server you using? [23:45] alsa [23:45] greeter: on what lubuntu version? [23:45] 13.10 [23:46] hm [23:46] works for me [23:46] i was told that bus errors can be hardware issues. the only difference in hardware is i switched hard drives. the one i originally installed on decided it was going to die [23:46] might be an issue with the soundcard that maybe didn't reveal its ugly head until something in alsa and/or audacity [23:47] and/or the audio driver itself [23:47] perhaps... i'll try reinstalling it, sometimes that magically fixes things [23:47] could also be some configuration file thing [23:47] i.e. you tweaked something [23:47] maybe... [23:47] might want to reset the configs and see if that helps [23:47] anyone else see the workspace indicator be really wonky? It's blue and highlighted on my first desktop then when I switch it's not and when I switch back it's still blank until I switch focus to another window [23:48] the only time i ever saw a bus error was when i compiled sample c/asm code that was deliberately designed to trigger one [23:48] a reinstall fixed it :-D i'm pleased [23:48] cool [23:49] audacity is not without its bugs fwiw [23:49] it occassionally crashes on me [23:49] honestly i think the issue is memory management but that's just me [23:49] possibly. first time i ever had issues with it specifically... tried a source compile but make ran into errors :-s [23:54] endedup installing midori since firefox just won't run [23:57] i find with firefox it's probably best not to get the absolute latest updates. but maybe that's just me and this ancient computer i'm running it on lol