[03:32] <andres_> hola
[03:32] <andres_> hello
[03:33] <Unit193> Howdy.
[03:33] <andres_> I put lubuntu in the computers of my school
[03:33] <andres_> thanks :D
[04:25] <pvl1> hey all, mute button mutes, but fails to unmute. its because i have 5.1 hooked up, i know that
[08:50] <lolita> I have a rather annoying question about wireless connection. Can anyone lend a hand?
[08:52] <lolita> I downloaded Lubuntu 10.3 onto what was originally a Windows XP laptop, and it went smoothly. However, Network Manager has vanished and refuses to install.
[08:53] <lolita> From the Terminal it is also unable to identify the firmware-b43-installer. What gives?
[09:51] <leszek> hi
[19:17] <eletious> Hello
[19:18] <eletious> ... I am having some issues with Chromium... most pages crash
[19:18] <eletious> including the help page
[19:18] <ianorlin> what does  it say when crashing its dead jim?
[19:22] <eletious> "Aw, Snap!"
[19:23] <eletious> "Something went wrong while displaying this webpage. To continue, reload or go to another page."
[19:23] <eletious> the "suggestions" just takes me to a support page that does the same thing
[19:23] <eletious> oddly enough, the extensions store and 4chan work just fine
[19:33] <ianorlin> what version of lubuntu?
[19:37] <eletious> 13.04
[19:38] <eletious> just installed
[19:40] <vn151502510> could try `chromium-browser --disable-plugins`
[19:43] <ewout> I'm running chromium on a old Pentium III laptop and it's extremly slow, any suggestions on making it less cpu and resource intensive?
[19:43] <wxl> eletious: also might want to look at your memory
[19:44] <eletious> wxl: what about my memory?
[19:44] <wxl> ewout: don't use chromium! or at least don't use the plugins. or use xombrero/xxxterm. maybe a wee less userfriendly but a lot more better with resources
[19:45] <wxl> eletious: sometimes those warnings pop up because you lack enough memory to complete the task the plugin is trying to do, i.e. you might want to add some memory.
[19:45] <eletious> considering this is a fresh install on a 16GB flash drive with 1G swap, on an AMD E450 with 4GB of RAM
[19:45] <wxl> eletious: let me rephase: free memory
[19:45] <eletious> meaning unused
[19:46] <eletious> but Chromium and Xchat are the only two things running
[19:46] <eletious> and it happens no matter the number of tabs running
[19:46] <ewout> Thanks wxl, i'll look into xombrero :)
[19:46] <ewout> Does it have decent HTML5 support?
[19:47] <wxl> ewout: it's probably not going to be as great as chromium or firefox, but it will handle most things well
[19:47] <ewout> Thanks aqain! :)
[19:47] <wxl> np
[19:53] <eletious> so... nothin?
[20:55] <Slit_> Hi! I have mac mini power pc. Can someone tell me how to install ati graphic card for that machine. Now I use vesa xorg.conf
[21:09] <phillw> Slit_: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Configure_graphics
[21:11] <Slit_> When I type this: Linux video=ofonly in boot screen then it looks like that everything is working. But that is just for one sesion. After rebooting, then graphic again isn't working
[21:12] <ianorlin> Slit_: in grub when booting
[21:13] <Slit_> I think so ianorlin
[21:19] <ianorlin> oh did you see the part on how do I make a yaboot parameter permenant on the FAQ?
[21:20] <Slit_> Yes, but I don't have yaboot.conf on my computer. That is, i can't finde it
[21:28] <Slit_> This ppc is terrible
[21:28] <wxl> Slit_: did you look in /boot?
[21:30] <wxl> Slit_: er sorry, /etc/yaboot.conf -- if it's not there, you can always create it (it should be there). here's an example: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1798792&page=3&p=11108858#post11108858
[21:30] <wxl> Slit_: here's lots of info, too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=994882
[21:31] <wxl> Slit_: don't forget to use ybin when you're done editing!
[21:31] <wxl> Slit_: also, linux on ppc is not easy. but outside of bsd, there's little hope for the machine otherwise.
[21:32] <Slit_> wxl It is in etc folder :-) I don't know wy computer didn't finde it when I serch for it
[21:33] <wxl> Slit_: sudo find / -iname yaboot.conf should have got you there
[21:33] <Slit_> Yes, Linux is the last hope
[21:33] <Slit_> No wxl, I open PCMan, teh search
[21:33] <wxl> Slit_: or bsd, as i said. there are bsds that actually support ppc. with linux, it's community supported, which is to say, generally unsupported.
[21:33] <wxl> Slit_: oh, well, that's the unfun way ;)
[21:34] <Slit_> bsd?
[21:34] <wxl> Slit_: unit
[21:34] <Slit_> Never tryed
[21:34] <wxl> s/unit/unix/g
[21:34] <wxl> Slit_: openbsd, freebsd, and especially netbsd (which claims it can pretty much run on anything) are all good choices
[21:35] <wxl> Slit_: freebsd is the core of os x, albeit tweaked by apple
[21:35] <wxl> Slit_: there are many similarities between linux and unix and also many tiny annoying differences so if you're already used to linux, i'd try to stick with it
[21:36] <wxl> Slit_: i'd say package management, for one, is a lot more user friendly on linux
[21:36] <Slit_> I don't know, I tought ubuntu is more supported. Tell me wxl, what sholud I do, when I open yaboot.conf. Yes I would like to stick to lubuntu for now
[21:37] <wxl> Slit_: ppc is only community supported on ubuntu. it is not officially supported.
[21:37] <wxl> Slit_: you have a line under the image section that starts with append=?
[21:37] <Slit_> yes I notice
[21:38] <Slit_> Yes, ther is append to times
[21:38] <wxl> Slit_: so at the end of that line (before the quote) add a space and enter in video=ofonly"
[21:38] <wxl> i assume one of them is using vmlinux.old. if so, you can just repeat the options on both
[21:39] <Slit_> yes wmlinux.old is one.
[21:40] <Slit_> Colud you copy past wxl
[21:40] <Slit_> :-)
[21:40] <Slit_> don't want to screw somthing
[21:41] <wxl> Slit_: i don't have a present example on my own ppc machine
[21:41] <wxl> Slit_: but if you had append="root=/dev/sda4 ro quiet splash" you would change it to append="root=/dev/sda4 ro quiet splash video=ofonly"
[21:41] <wxl> Slit_: in other words, keep what was there but add to the end
[21:41] <Slit_> append="quiet splash video=ofonly" is this ok
[21:42] <wxl> yes
[21:42] <Slit_> What sholud I do with xorg.conf
[21:42] <wxl> for the time being nothing
[21:43] <wxl> i would sort of go through the FAQ sequentially
[21:43] <wxl> do what you need only
[21:43] <Slit_> Ok
[21:44] <Slit_> I wil reboot now? To see if everything works
[21:44] <Slit_> Ok?
[21:44] <wxl> yep
[21:44] <Slit_> see you in a minute
[21:48] <Slit> wxl, nothing happend
[21:48] <wxl> Slit: ah, i forgot to ask, did you use ybin?
[21:49] <Slit> No
[21:49] <wxl> Slit: that's the problem. double check /etc/yaboot.conf and see if your video=ofonly is still there
[21:50] <Slit> yes it is there
[21:50] <wxl> Slit: now do "sudo ybin -v"
[21:50] <wxl> Slit: and then restart
[21:50] <Slit> Ok, I did it. Now reboot agian
[21:50] <Slit> see you in minute
[21:51] <wxl> k
[22:00] <Slit_> wxl, I am not sure if it is working. After I reboot it. I get something new in Monitor seting. Option for DVI. That is good. But no option to set on higher resolution. Second, my machine foroze, so I have to reboot again and now I am here
[22:00] <wxl> Slit_: where did it freeze?
[22:01] <Slit_> Everything forze. i coludn't move mouse, use keybord etc...
[22:01] <Slit_> When I enter in Lubuntu
[22:01] <Slit_> I tryed to go on Internet
[22:02] <Slit_> Now it is a bit, how do you say, laggy
[22:03] <wxl> Slit_: the curious thing about this is that putting video=ofonly in yaboot.conf is the same as putting it in the grub line
[22:03] <wxl> Slit_: so honestly it's probably unreleated
[22:04] <wxl> Slit_: you should use the process manager and see what's consuming the resources
[22:11] <Slit_> wxl, can we undo what we did. Again, mac mini froze
[22:11] <Slit_> now I am on my windows machine
[22:18] <Slit_> wxl, are you here?
[22:23] <ianorlin> does control alt f1 drop you into a log in for a terminal on the mac mini?
[22:24] <ianorlin> or was it at boot?
[22:26] <Slit_> ianorlin don't know. I delete what I add in yaboot.conf
[22:26] <Slit_> the I reboote few times. Now it looks alright
[22:35] <Slit_> It froze agine ianorlin
[22:36] <ianorlin> Was this mac mini given enough air and everything else are you sure it is not an overheating problem
[22:36] <ianorlin> did it go longer the first time?
[22:37] <ianorlin> does the fan run?
[22:38] <Slit_> No i think it is yaboot. Now I will enter again sudo ybin -v
[22:38] <ianorlin> ok
[23:36] <trickyhero> hey guys coming from 14.04!
[23:37] <greeter> nice
[23:37] <trickyhero> the workspace switcher looks pretty buggy, but I like that hexchat is included in the repos now, (idk when it was added)
[23:37] <greeter> is 14.04 stable? (complete newbie to lubuntu)
[23:37] <trickyhero> I just got on it, but no major changes are happening so I think it's pretty stable
[23:38] <greeter> hmm. i wonder if there's a command line option to upgrade to it
[23:38] <trickyhero> all the dev work on LXDE switched to LXQT so 14.04 is pretty simular
[23:38] <Unit193> Not quite, pcmanfm just had a nice big release.
[23:39] <Unit193> greeter: It's not considered "stable" yet, though it might be for some.
[23:39] <Unit193> greeter: do-release-upgrade -d
[23:39] <greeter> oh i see. hmm, i'll have to remember that for when the next stable release is out
[23:39] <Unit193> -d = development release.
[23:39] <greeter> since my cd drive broke since installing lubuntu it isn't really an option to set it up that way
[23:40] <greeter> ok, so if i want the next stable release (when it's available) i'd omit -d?
[23:40] <Unit193> Yes.
[23:40] <trickyhero> I used a usb drive
[23:40] <greeter> ok cool... hope i'm smart enough to read the topic
[23:40] <greeter> did you boot from the usb drive?
[23:40] <trickyhero> yup
[23:40] <greeter> ah. my computer is so old i don't think that's an option
[23:41] <trickyhero> I actually had to use my raspberrypi to make the usb since my normal computer was messedup :p
[23:42] <greeter> lol i see... well i'm hoping this one doesn't get messed up...
[23:42] <greeter> to re-install lubuntu i'd have to take it apart, then put in a cd/dvd drive temporarily, then run it in that kind of disassembled condition until the install is done
[23:42] <greeter> i'd remove the broken cd drive myself and replace it, but that can only be done if i remove the power supply and i'm not skilled enough to do that
[23:43] <trickyhero> also this just happened on first run of firefox:
[23:43] <trickyhero> oh no it didn't copy
[23:43] <trickyhero> something about a python3 thing being out of date
[23:43] <greeter> i had issues with the latest firefox updates too. firefox always crashed. i switched to chromium
[23:44] <greeter> have issues with audacity i can't track down either since reinstalling lubuntu
[23:45] <greeter> ran fine the first time i installed lubuntu. but now if i try to run it i get a bus error :-S
[23:45] <trickyhero> ouch
[23:45] <wxl> greeter: what audio server you using?
[23:45] <greeter> alsa
[23:45] <wxl> greeter: on what lubuntu version?
[23:45] <greeter> 13.10
[23:46] <wxl> hm
[23:46] <wxl> works for me
[23:46] <greeter> i was told that bus errors can be hardware issues. the only difference in hardware is i switched hard drives. the one i originally installed on decided it was going to die
[23:46] <wxl> might be an issue with the soundcard that maybe didn't reveal its ugly head until something in alsa and/or audacity
[23:47] <wxl> and/or the audio driver itself
[23:47] <greeter> perhaps... i'll try reinstalling it, sometimes that magically fixes things
[23:47] <wxl> could also be some configuration file thing
[23:47] <wxl> i.e. you tweaked something
[23:47] <greeter> maybe...
[23:47] <wxl> might want to reset the configs and see if that helps
[23:47] <trickyhero> anyone else see the workspace indicator be really wonky? It's blue and highlighted on my first desktop then when I switch it's not and when I switch back it's still blank until I switch focus to another window
[23:48] <greeter> the only time i ever saw a bus error was when i compiled sample c/asm code that was deliberately designed to trigger one
[23:48] <greeter> a reinstall fixed it :-D i'm pleased
[23:48] <wxl> cool
[23:49] <wxl> audacity is not without its bugs fwiw
[23:49] <wxl> it occassionally crashes on me
[23:49] <wxl> honestly i think the issue is memory management but that's just me
[23:49] <greeter> possibly. first time i ever had issues with it specifically... tried a source compile but make ran into errors :-s
[23:54] <trickyhero> endedup installing midori since firefox just won't run
[23:57] <greeter> i find with firefox it's probably best not to get the absolute latest updates. but maybe that's just me and this ancient computer i'm running it on lol