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| tyhicks | hello! | 16:55 |
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| mdeslaur | \o | 17:59 |
| jdstrand | ok, let's try this again | 17:59 |
| tyhicks | hello | 17:59 |
| jdstrand | #startmeeting | 18:00 |
| jdstrand | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| jdstrand | #startmeeting | 18:00 |
| jdstrand | seems we don't have our bot | 18:00 |
| jdstrand | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 18:00 |
| jdstrand | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 18:00 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Announcements | 18:00 |
| jdstrand | Thanks to Stefan Bader (smb) provided updates for precise-saucy for xen . Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job! :) | 18:01 |
| mdeslaur | smb rocks \m/ \m/ | 18:01 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Review of any previous action items | 18:01 |
| jdstrand | [ACTION] chrisccoulson to benchmark oxide and qtwebkit | 18:01 |
| jdstrand | I know the benchmarks are done | 18:01 |
| jdstrand | I didn't see the email, but could have missed it | 18:02 |
| jdstrand | I think chrisccoulson may have stepped away since this is well past the sceduled time of the meeting, so I'll just add a new action | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | [ACTION] chrisccoulson to send benchmarks email to list | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | I'll go first | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | I'm in the happy place this week | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | I've got quite a few updates assigned to me that I'll be working on | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | and I've gotten a lot of miscellaneous stuff piled up to catch up on judging by my inbox | 18:04 |
| jdstrand | two of those is updating the infographic confinement spec (it is changing again) | 18:05 |
| jdstrand | and updating the scopes spec and following up with the scopes team | 18:05 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you're up | 18:05 |
| mdeslaur | I'm on triage this week | 18:05 |
| mdeslaur | I have some ca-certificates updates that I need to double-check, and then I'll get the copied to -proposed for a couple of weeks | 18:06 |
| mdeslaur | after that, I'm working on the CVE list which has gotten bigger since last week | 18:06 |
| mdeslaur | I may also poke at debcompare some more...it's pretty good now | 18:06 |
| mdeslaur | oh, btw, I've converted uvt to python3, so if it breaks, let me know | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | that's it from me | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | sbeattie: you're up | 18:07 |
| sbeattie | I'm on apparmor again this week. | 18:07 |
| sbeattie | I'm working on a bit of fallout from landing the python tools to help sarnold with landing the updated package in ubuntu | 18:08 |
| sbeattie | As well as the usual kernel testing bits for jjohansen's work | 18:09 |
| sbeattie | I also need to update the apparmor daily recipe ppa, as it's failing due to the python stuff landing upstream | 18:09 |
| sbeattie | I think that's it from me. | 18:10 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: you're up | 18:10 |
| tyhicks | I'm currently looking into some kernel keyring oddities in Trusty | 18:10 |
| tyhicks | it was noticed after the ecryptfs test suite started failing | 18:11 |
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| mdeslaur | hrm | 18:11 |
| tyhicks | I've got a workaround in the test suite but now I'm working with dhowells (kernel keyring upstream) to figure out what is going on | 18:11 |
| tyhicks | after that, I'll go back to getting a v2 of the dbus-daemon patches attached the upstream AA mediation bug | 18:12 |
| tyhicks | I'm almost done with addressing all of Simon's feedback | 18:12 |
| tyhicks | there's a lot of changes, but I've been testing as I go so there's not too much left | 18:12 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: I didn't follow along last week. I saw that the kdbus guys were like "it's fine for you to propose this for dbus-daemon, but it ain't gonna work for us", but didn't see dbus-daemon's comments | 18:13 |
| tyhicks | if I can get all of that done, I want to circle back around and make sure we've got all of our kernel test failures on ppc straightened out | 18:13 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: so dbus-daemon upstream is generally ok with it? just need some touchups? | 18:13 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: yes, they seem to be ok with it | 18:13 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: all of the comments are in the bug | 18:13 |
| jdstrand | ok | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: re kdbus-- we still are going to propose our small patch, correct? | 18:14 |
| mdeslaur | should we? | 18:14 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: it is something that we need to discuss - they are still very opposed to it | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | right, so lets not discuss that here | 18:14 |
| tyhicks | that's it for me | 18:15 |
| jdstrand | we can take it to #ubuntu-hardened after the meeting | 18:15 |
| * tyhicks nods | 18:15 | |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 18:15 |
| jjohansen | so I'm working on apparmor this week, I've got another round of test kernels building atm, and if it passes basic testing I will shove it up to the ppa | 18:16 |
| jjohansen | I've got revising to do around namespaces, especially a bug that breaks non-ns x transitions | 18:17 |
| jjohansen | and a couple of other bugs and testing to work out. We have a new method for detecting which kernel userspace combination we are in, so that we can drop the config patch for backports. Which was breaking containers, ... | 18:20 |
| jjohansen | there is some coordination around apparmor 2.9 that will happen today in the upstream meeting | 18:20 |
| jjohansen | I think thats it sarnold your u | 18:20 |
| jjohansen | s/u/up | 18:20 |
| sarnold | I'm on community this week | 18:21 |
| sarnold | I have some new apparmor packages for trusty that use a trunk snapshot that we're calling 2.8.95, since it's not quite ready to be called a 2.9, and as a result of the snapshot and testing I've got a teeny patch for apparmor to update the libapparmor1 version number to libapparmor2 in an auto*something file | 18:22 |
| sarnold | the new trusty packages are a mixed bag; on the one hand, the large accumulated patch set is now significantly smaller and we've dropped the old perl tools which none of us felt capable of supporting for five years | 18:22 |
| sarnold | on the other hand, the new python tools are still a bit thin and need more testing. | 18:22 |
| sarnold | i don't know how much we want to improve the python tools before proposing the new apparmor for landing | 18:23 |
| sarnold | but it feels like we need at least aa-disable to work correctly before asking for a landing | 18:23 |
| sbeattie | sarnold: I have a couple of small patches that make aa-disable work without aborting because of not understanding dbus rules | 18:24 |
| jdstrand | we should have aa-enforce too then | 18:24 |
| jdstrand | I assume | 18:24 |
| sarnold | I've also got a large stack of MIRs, some fairly important pacakges that many people are waiting on (nginx, juju, etc.) -- that alone could fill the week.. so here's hoping the release team won't mind me blocking progress too much.. | 18:25 |
| jdstrand | do I understand correctly that we are only blocked on the python tools? | 18:25 |
| sarnold | sbeattie: Yay! :D thanks! | 18:25 |
| sarnold | jdstrand: moment, let me go re-find that email.. | 18:25 |
| sarnold | jdstrand: there's a handful of other qrt test failures not relaated to the python tools that also need investigation | 18:26 |
| sarnold | jdstrand: it could be that some (most?) are due to a kernel that hasn't yet picked up all the apparmor patches, I think I heard jjohansen mention that lsat week | 18:26 |
| jdstrand | ok, we need to get all that sorted so we can get this uploaded | 18:27 |
| * jdstrand stating the obvious | 18:27 | |
| sbeattie | sarnold, jdstrand: I'll take a look at the QRT failures. | 18:27 |
| sarnold | yeah, I'm looking forward to retrying with sbeattie's latest fixes, that'll hopefully be half of QRT.. :) | 18:27 |
| jdstrand | thanks-- I'd help there, but have a lot of updates I need to get to | 18:28 |
| sarnold | heh, yeah, I recall triage last week... | 18:28 |
| sarnold | what a week | 18:28 |
| jjohansen | sarnold: ? the kernel shouldn't really have anything to do with the userspace failures. It needs to support old and new kernels | 18:28 |
| sarnold | I think that's me done, chrisccoulson if you're around you're up :) | 18:29 |
| jdstrand | if it was only the new stuff from last week... | 18:29 |
| sarnold | jjohansen: ah, ok. darn. | 18:29 |
| jdstrand | ok, I think chrisccoulson is away (which is fine) | 18:31 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 18:31 |
| jdstrand | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 18:31 |
| jdstrand | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 18:31 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/turba2.html | 18:31 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/proftpd-dfsg.html | 18:31 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/sleuthkit.html | 18:31 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ganglia-web.html | 18:31 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/dhcpcd.html | 18:31 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 18:31 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson: thanks! | 18:33 |
| jdstrand | #endmeeting | 18:33 |
| jjohansen | thanks jdstrand | 18:33 |
| mdeslaur | thanks jdstrand! | 18:33 |
| sarnold | thanks jdstrand :) | 18:34 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: thanks! | 18:34 |
| jdstrand | np | 18:35 |
| micahg | !dmb | 19:01 |
| ubottu | The Developer Membership Board handles applications for new developer privileges. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess for more details. For DMB attention, try !dmb-ping. | 19:01 |
| micahg | !dmb-ping | 19:01 |
| ubottu | bdrung, ScottK, Laney, micahg, barry, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping | 19:01 |
| tumbleweed | o/ | 19:01 |
| ScottK | \o | 19:01 |
| stgraber | o/ | 19:02 |
| ScottK | Seems like we have a quorum. | 19:04 |
| ScottK | I'll chair I guess (penance for past sins). | 19:04 |
| ScottK | #startmeeting | 19:04 |
| ScottK | #startmeeting DMB | 19:05 |
| ScottK | OK, I guess no bot today. | 19:06 |
| ScottK | Review of previous action items | 19:06 |
| ScottK | Add Daniel Pocock's upload rights (stgraber). | 19:06 |
| ScottK | 19:06 | |
| ScottK | stgraber: ^^^? | 19:07 |
| ScottK | We'll come back to that. | 19:08 |
| ScottK | Noskcaj: Are you around? | 19:08 |
| Noskcaj | yep | 19:08 |
| stgraber | ScottK: not done yet as I still don't have a list of packages to add to his PPU | 19:08 |
| stgraber | ScottK: I e-mailed him a few days ago to try and figure this out though | 19:08 |
| ScottK | I've been a bit MIA, but I understand you applied for MOTU and it was supposed to be voted on by mail. | 19:08 |
| ScottK | Then you're also applying for Xubuntu package set today. | 19:09 |
| ScottK | Noskcaj: Is that right? | 19:09 |
| Noskcaj | yeah, or january's 19UTC meeting | 19:09 |
| Noskcaj | yep | 19:09 |
| micahg | I've been a bit MIA as well, which has compounded the issue | 19:09 |
| ScottK | So let's discuss both as needed and see if we can get the voting done now. | 19:10 |
| micahg | we do have 2 other candidates today as well | 19:10 |
| ScottK | Tell us about yourself and why you're applying for Xubuntu. | 19:10 |
| micahg | can we get to them all? | 19:10 |
| ScottK | Depends on how long this takes. | 19:10 |
| ScottK | He was first on the agenda for Xubuntu. | 19:10 |
| Noskcaj | I've been an ubuntu member for about a year now, and have done most of the packaging work for xubuntu these last two cycles. I am part of a number of packaging teams as well | 19:12 |
| * ogra pulls out the pompoms | 19:12 | |
| ScottK | Who's been your primary sponsor for the Xubuntu work? | 19:12 |
| Noskcaj | Logan and dholbach | 19:13 |
| Noskcaj | http://ubuntu-dev.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu-sponsorships.cgi?render=html&sponsor=&sponsor_search=name&sponsoree=Jackson+Doak&sponsoree_search=name | 19:13 |
| ScottK | I recall reading something about problems with a xchat-gnome upload. What happened with that and what did you learn from it. | 19:14 |
| Noskcaj | If a package hasn't been gered for a long time, and has many changes, test it a lot beforehand | 19:15 |
| Noskcaj | *merged | 19:15 |
| ScottK | OK. I'll also add that if you're doing a merge, you really need to understand the difference from Debian and why it's there. | 19:16 |
| Noskcaj | yep | 19:17 |
| ScottK | Who in the Xubuntu team do you coordinate your work with (I know they are short of developers)? | 19:17 |
| ScottK | Noskcaj: ^^^ | 19:18 |
| Noskcaj | micahg, when he's around, as well as the people that make xfce and shimmer | 19:18 |
| ScottK | "... people that make ..." you mean upstream developers? | 19:19 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: what about the fact that one of the specific issues that was mentioned in the bug was previous mentioned to you by an Ubuntu dev and you said it was fine (when in reality it wasn't for everyone)? | 19:19 |
| micahg | xchat-gnome issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-gnome/+bug/1272455 | 19:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1272455 in xchat-gnome (Ubuntu) "multiple issues with git20131003" [High,Confirmed] | 19:19 |
| Noskcaj | ScottK, yep, although some of the stuff is tailored for xubuntu | 19:20 |
| Noskcaj | micahg, I installed it locally and couldn't see the problem, i'd have used a VM, but i cannot run one. I should have asked someone else to test it | 19:20 |
| ScottK | Noskcaj: Anything else you'd like to say before we vote? | 19:21 |
| Noskcaj | please vote yes? | 19:22 |
| ScottK | Any more questions? | 19:22 |
| ScottK | First vote is Noskcaj for MOTU. | 19:23 |
| ScottK | Laney voted +1 via email. | 19:23 |
| ScottK | micahg, tumbleweed , stgraber ^^^ | 19:24 |
| ScottK | barry is also +1 via email. | 19:24 |
| micahg | -1, I think that you're doing good work, but I'm a little weary as there have been issues in the past with breaking various things | 19:25 |
| Noskcaj | :( | 19:25 |
| micahg | FTR, I can see that vote changing over time | 19:25 |
| stgraber | -1, same as micahg, I'd prefer to have you work for a few more months through sponsors | 19:26 |
| micahg | that's just how I feel now | 19:26 |
| ScottK | I vote +0. I can see the improvement, but I don't think you're ready for broad, unsupervised access to that much of the archive. I'm also concerned with the number of people who have sponsored you multiple times that didn't endorse your application. | 19:27 |
| tumbleweed | sorry, I'm not 100% here | 19:27 |
| tumbleweed | but I can vote | 19:28 |
| tumbleweed | +0 | 19:28 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 19:28 |
| tumbleweed | for much the same reasons as above | 19:28 |
| ScottK | That's it. | 19:28 |
| Noskcaj | ScottK, That last bit is because i had had a number of sync bugs that i could not test build | 19:28 |
| ScottK | Noskcaj: Unfortunately, that's not enough +1 to succeed. Please keep on working on improving and get more broadly endorsed. | 19:28 |
| Noskcaj | I now use a ppa to build them, and i forgot to get logan to leave a testimonial | 19:29 |
| ScottK | Please keep working through sponsors and come back in a few months. | 19:29 |
| ScottK | Now Xubuntu Dev. | 19:29 |
| ScottK | Everyone please vote. | 19:29 |
| ScottK | barry was +1 in email | 19:29 |
| ScottK | Laney was +1 in email | 19:30 |
| ScottK | micahg, tumbleweed , stgraber ^^^ | 19:30 |
| micahg | -1 same reason (this does not preclude bzr commit access to xubuntu repos, which we'll deal with separately) | 19:30 |
| stgraber | +0 [same concerns as MOTU but since the scope is more limited, I won't -1 that one, besides, the Xubuntu team appears to really be short of uploaders] | 19:31 |
| micahg | sorry, which will be dealt with separately (by xubuntu dev team) | 19:31 |
| tumbleweed | +0 I'm leaning a little more to +1 than MOTU, but not quite enough | 19:32 |
| ScottK | I'm also +0. I was leaning more towards +1 since it's more narrow and Xubuntu needs the help, but particularly since micahg is a Xubuntu Dev, I'm not comfortable saying +1 when he's still at -1. | 19:34 |
| ScottK | End voting. | 19:34 |
| Noskcaj | well that was a waste of two months | 19:34 |
| ScottK | Noskcaj: So I think you'll need to come back again on this too. | 19:34 |
| ScottK | Noskcaj: At least you have an answer now. Please work with micahg and xubuntu-dev on bzr repo access and then come back. | 19:35 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 19:35 |
| micahg | I would like to publicly say that Jackson is being a great help to the Xubuntu dev team in trying to help prepare new releases, my vote was only with regard to unsponsored upload rights to the archive and should not be taken as a statement on the level of contribution | 19:35 |
| ScottK | Is Gunnar here? | 19:35 |
| GunnarHj | Yes. | 19:35 |
| ScottK | GunnarHj: You're up. Tell us a bit about yourself and why you want upload rights for ubuntu-doc | 19:35 |
| GunnarHj | I've been contributing mostly with i18n related stuff for a while now. Already upload rights for language-selector and accountsservice. More involved with docs lately, and we miss someone in the team with upload rights. | 19:37 |
| ScottK | Any questions anyone? | 19:38 |
| GunnarHj | Uploads of ubuntu-docs are typically time critical. | 19:38 |
| tumbleweed | just the basic stuff | 19:38 |
| stgraber | are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce? | 19:38 |
| GunnarHj | stgraber: Yes. | 19:38 |
| GunnarHj | tumbleweed: "basic stuff"? | 19:39 |
| tumbleweed | what stgraber asked :) | 19:39 |
| tumbleweed | but he got there first | 19:39 |
| GunnarHj | ok | 19:39 |
| ScottK | Let's vote then. | 19:40 |
| stgraber | the other usual questions are related to the release cycle and freezes, but given the package we're talking about, I don't think this is particularly relevant | 19:40 |
| stgraber | so ready to vote | 19:40 |
| ScottK | barry +1 vial email. | 19:40 |
| ScottK | Laney +1 via email. | 19:40 |
| stgraber | +1 | 19:40 |
| micahg | +1 | 19:40 |
| ScottK | +1 | 19:40 |
| tumbleweed | +1 | 19:41 |
| ScottK | Done. Congratulations. | 19:41 |
| GunnarHj | Thanks guys! | 19:41 |
| ScottK | Sergio, are you here? | 19:41 |
| ogra | *\o/* | 19:41 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, yes | 19:41 |
| * ogra swings his pompoms | 19:42 | |
| ScottK | sergiusens: Please tell us a bit about yourself, what you're applying for, and why. | 19:42 |
| rsalveti | o/ | 19:42 |
| sergiusens | first sorry for crowding the agenda, wasn't sure the e-mail tag was saving a slot | 19:42 |
| sergiusens | I'm applying to upload a specific set of packages | 19:42 |
| stgraber | GunnarHj: Archive Upload Rights for gunnarhj: archive 'primary', source package 'ubuntu-doc' | 19:42 |
| sergiusens | for most of them we are upstream (with my team) | 19:42 |
| sergiusens | I work mostly on ubuntu touch (almost only except for the packages that affect desktop) | 19:43 |
| sergiusens | worked on the initial android enablement | 19:43 |
| sergiusens | and now doing go packaging as well | 19:43 |
| sergiusens | all my work is always reviewed | 19:44 |
| sergiusens | and in general we have additional layers of qa control with the landing asks prior to the ci train showing up | 19:44 |
| stgraber | so I'm personally fine with the list of PPU for one exception, livecd-rootfs | 19:44 |
| ScottK | sergiusens: I see qtmultimedia-opensource-src-touch is on your list. That's a code copy of qtmultimedia-opensource-src, right? | 19:44 |
| ScottK | stgraber: That one concerns me too. | 19:45 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, it is something useful only for ubuntu touch | 19:45 |
| ogra | stgraber, why is that ? | 19:45 |
| ogra | stgraber, i sponsored plenty of sergios things into it in the past | 19:45 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, it's a mess of diverts | 19:45 |
| rsalveti | qtmultimedia-opensource-src-touch is a copy of qtmultimedia-opensource-src but with support to gstreamer 1.0 instead | 19:45 |
| ogra | never had any issue | 19:45 |
| ogra | (usually sergios code is good to go on the first shot) | 19:46 |
| ScottK | sergiusens: I know, I was in the discussion that resulted in it being created. My concern is that the two ought to be generally in sync, but that if you can only upload one and not the other it could be problematic. | 19:46 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, I see | 19:46 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, in general the plan is to kill it soon | 19:46 |
| ScottK | ogra: livecd-rootfs can affect a lot more than just touch though. | 19:46 |
| stgraber | ogra: I'm not saying I have any particular problem with the changes he did so far, they may be fine, but this is a senstive package and I'd much rather keep it uploaded by people who have a much better understanding of the cdimage infrastructure. | 19:46 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, just wanted it in case any urgent packaging specific bug showed up | 19:46 |
| ScottK | sergiusens: How soon? | 19:46 |
| ogra | ScottK, i know :) | 19:47 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, as soon as the media-hub and mediascanner make their way in | 19:47 |
| ogra | ScottK, but i trust sergiusens to be careful enough with it and to have to skills to not break it | 19:47 |
| sergiusens | I'm working on the packaging for media-hub today fwiw | 19:47 |
| ogra | (not more than stgraber or me broke it during our uploads at least) | 19:47 |
| sergiusens | if it is too much issues; can I just remove livecd-rootfs? | 19:48 |
| stgraber | sergiusens: yes you can | 19:48 |
| sergiusens | I can work that one out through sponsors | 19:48 |
| sergiusens | stgraber, changed | 19:49 |
| * ogra would really appreciate to have one more upload capable person for livecd-rootfs in the hone world ... and i really think sergio is qualified ... but up to you | 19:49 | |
| stgraber | sergiusens: thanks | 19:49 |
| ScottK | sergiusens: I'd prefer to leave out qtmultimedia-opensource-src-touch too. | 19:49 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, ack | 19:50 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, done | 19:50 |
| ScottK | sergiusens: Thanks. | 19:50 |
| stgraber | sergiusens: are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce? | 19:51 |
| sergiusens | stgraber, I am now | 19:51 |
| stgraber | sergiusens: good | 19:51 |
| stgraber | sergiusens: what tool would you use before uploading to confirm your package won't impact flavours that may be in the middle of a milestone? | 19:52 |
| ScottK | sergiusens: Based on where we are in the development cycle, what type of package upload needs additional permission and which would you be able to upload without review? | 19:52 |
| sergiusens | stgraber, I'm really bad with tool names; but I'd got to the devscripts and find the one that has 'seeded in' | 19:52 |
| stgraber | sergiusens: seeded-in-ubuntu, right ;) | 19:53 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, packages without a feature freeze exception | 19:53 |
| ScottK | sergiusens: How do you tell if it needs one? | 19:53 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, given our nature though, I haven't had to deal with that often as someone creates a blanket one for us | 19:54 |
| ScottK | sergiusens: Sure, but that won't last forever. | 19:54 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, to tell to be honest; I'd refer to the wiki | 19:54 |
| tumbleweed | to me, blanket FFes are a sign of broken process | 19:55 |
| ScottK | sergiusens: OK. The answer is that if it's only bug fixes and no new features, it doesn't need an FFe. | 19:55 |
| ogra | tumbleweed, well, touch is a rolling distro ... with a different process | 19:55 |
| sergiusens | ScottK, right; and I read it this morning again (since I need to file one actually) | 19:56 |
| ScottK | Same process that, I gather, apparently makes updating Qt5 for half a cycle impossible. | 19:56 |
| ScottK | OK. | 19:56 |
| ScottK | Any more questions. | 19:56 |
| micahg | sergiusens: just quickly, have you had any issues working through Debian for the 4 packages you maintain there? | 19:57 |
| sergiusens | micahg, not really; michael was kind enough and happy enough that I was packaging golang stuff | 19:58 |
| ogra | and thats after all for the benefit of the whole distro :) | 19:58 |
| sergiusens | micahg, he just insisted I used git and not bzr for packaging branches to be aligned with the team | 19:58 |
| sergiusens | which I did | 19:58 |
| ScottK | OK, I think CFV time then. | 19:58 |
| ScottK | Vote for PPU for sergiusens for lxc-android-config, android, goget-ubuntu-touch, phablet-tools, autopilot, golang-gocheck, golang-pb, golang-go-flags, session-manager-touch, platform-api, android-tools, ofono, maliit-framework, ubuntu-keyboard | 19:59 |
| micahg | sergiusens: ok, I'm always glad to see people working in Debian and trying to push through packages that way | 19:59 |
| stgraber | +1 | 19:59 |
| micahg | +1 | 19:59 |
| ScottK | barry is +1 in email | 19:59 |
| ScottK | Laney is +1 in email | 19:59 |
| ScottK | tumbleweed: ^^^ | 20:00 |
| ScottK | +1 from me. | 20:00 |
| tumbleweed | +1 | 20:00 |
| ScottK | OK, done. | 20:00 |
| ogra | yay | 20:00 |
| ScottK | congratulations sergiusens | 20:00 |
| rsalveti | \o/ | 20:00 |
| sergiusens | yay | 20:00 |
| * ogra dances | 20:00 | |
| ScottK | endmeeting | 20:00 |
| micahg | congratulations sergiusens | 20:00 |
| ChickenCutlass | excellent | 20:01 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: congrats! | 20:01 |
| stokachu | you got 5 minutes for me today? | 20:01 |
| sergiusens | if there were still live UDS I'd get beers for everyone :-) | 20:01 |
| ogra | well deserved ! | 20:01 |
| sergiusens | thanks | 20:01 |
| ScottK | (we're at the time limit, so no further discussion) | 20:01 |
| stokachu | please? | 20:01 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: keep it up :-) | 20:01 |
| stokachu | im on a plane next dmb meeting so i cant make that one, was hoping to get this wrapped up since ive been through the process before | 20:01 |
| ScottK | stokachu: We're out of time, please send email and we'll see if we can do it that way. | 20:03 |
| stokachu | fine | 20:04 |
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