| Private_User | good morning | 03:14 |
|---|---|---|
| Private_User | QA: seen maaz? | 03:17 |
| QA | Private_User: maaz was last seen 2 months, 22 days, 10 hours, 10 minutes and 9 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-12-03 17:07:24 UTC], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-12-03 16:44:55 UTC | 03:17 |
| Private_User | QA: who is online? | 03:18 |
| QA | Private_User: I'm afraid I have no idea | 03:18 |
| Private_User | sorry people was just a little bored :D | 03:20 |
| Private_User | hehe | 03:20 |
| Private_User | QA Thank You | 03:20 |
| QA | sure thing, Private_User | 03:20 |
| Kilos | QA coffee on | 05:14 |
| * QA puts the kettle on | 05:14 | |
| Kilos | morning nlsthzn and all others that are awake | 05:15 |
| QA | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 05:18 |
| Kilos | QA thanks love | 05:18 |
| QA | sure thing, Kilos | 05:18 |
| nuvolari_ | hallo oom Kilos | 05:23 |
| nuvolari_ | o/ morning Private_User | 05:23 |
| nuvolari_ | er, I got a tail | 05:23 |
| Kilos | more nuvolari_ | 05:23 |
| Kilos | er ja | 05:24 |
| nuvolari_ | stertjie van agter en 'n stertjie van voor | 05:24 |
| === nuvolari_ is now known as nuvolari | ||
| bduk1 | Good morning everyone | 05:25 |
| Kilos | hi bduk1 | 05:25 |
| nuvolari | hello bduk1 | 05:25 |
| nuvolari | oh dear | 05:27 |
| nuvolari | oops? | 05:27 |
| Kilos | what? | 05:27 |
| nuvolari | het oom Kilos 'n lekker naweek gehad? | 05:27 |
| nuvolari | 07:26:58 <-- | bduk1 (~Thunderbi@196-210-137-164.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | 05:27 |
| Kilos | oh ya freenode is still sick | 05:28 |
| Kilos | was a bad weekend for them | 05:28 |
| Kilos | maazstill ofline and meeting tomorrow night | 05:28 |
| nuvolari | :O | 05:37 |
| nuvolari | I must remember | 05:37 |
| nuvolari | thanks for the reminder oom Kilos | 05:37 |
| Kilos | np | 05:37 |
| Kilos | you need to tell the monkey, i dunno where he is | 05:37 |
| Kilos | hasnt been online for a long time | 05:38 |
| Private_User | morning nuvolari and Kilos | 06:05 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User | 06:05 |
| Private_User | yeah me also last time I forgot about the meeting | 06:07 |
| Private_User | what time is it? | 06:07 |
| Kilos | 20.30 | 06:07 |
| Private_User | cool thanks | 06:07 |
| Kilos | np | 06:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning | 06:12 |
| Kilos | morning ThatGraemeGuy | 06:12 |
| Kilos | hi hekkwan | 06:37 |
| Kilos | hi Guest23692 where is tinuva | 06:38 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 06:39 |
| superfly | morning Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy, Private_User, nuvolari | 06:42 |
| superfly | and bduk | 06:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning :-) | 06:44 |
| Private_User | morning superfly | 06:54 |
| nuvolari | hello's superfly | 07:05 |
| nuvolari | o/ hi Vince-0 | 07:15 |
| Vince-0 | Hi! | 07:15 |
| Vince-0 | surp? | 07:15 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:15 |
| Vince-0 | Hi! | 07:16 |
| Vince-0 | Lekka Maanharedag | 07:16 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:16 |
| Vince-0 | I believe there's a meeting tonight | 07:18 |
| === Guest23692 is now known as Tinuva | ||
| Kilos | tomorrow night Vince-0 | 07:18 |
| Kilos | wb Tinuva | 07:18 |
| Vince-0 | ow | 07:21 |
| Vince-0 | k | 07:21 |
| Kilos | inetpro more, gaan jy die hoe vonk probeer kry by die vergadering more aand? | 07:38 |
| Kilos | hoee | 07:38 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:38 |
| Kilos | high | 07:38 |
| Kilos- | ai! | 08:08 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| === nlsthzn_ is now known as netsplit | ||
| Kilos | hehe | 08:14 |
| Kilos | those okes caused bad probs the weekend seems like | 08:14 |
| netsplit | yup | 08:15 |
| Kilos | hope its fixed before tomorrow nights meeting | 08:16 |
| Kilos | and maaz too | 08:16 |
| Kilos | hi tumbleweed do you know how to restart maaz? | 08:16 |
| Kilos | and dont forget our meet tomorrow night hey | 08:17 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: sorry, I don't have access to the machine it runs on | 08:22 |
| Kilos | ah ok ty tumbleweed | 08:29 |
| Kilos | we need to contact the crashkid somehow then | 08:30 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 08:33 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro | 08:33 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hoeë vonk? | 08:34 |
| inetpro | highvoltage? | 08:34 |
| Kilos | yeah | 08:34 |
| inetpro | kan seker probeer, wat het jy op die agenda? | 08:34 |
| Kilos | daai registered nicks only | 08:35 |
| Kilos | hy moet dit doen ne | 08:35 |
| inetpro | wel hy hoef seker nie op die vergadering te wees nie | 08:36 |
| inetpro | kan net na die tyd sê hy moet dit doen, as hy die enigste ene is wat dit kan doen | 08:36 |
| Kilos | ja man betrek hom weer by ons | 08:36 |
| * Kilos dont like losing the old big names we had | 08:39 | |
| inetpro | Kilos: I sent him a message, up to him to see whether he can make it or not | 08:42 |
| Kilos | ty | 08:42 |
| Kilos | and the crash kid too | 08:42 |
| Kilos | the bot not here | 08:42 |
| inetpro | told him | 08:43 |
| Kilos | ty | 08:43 |
| inetpro | yw | 08:44 |
| inetpro | nuvolari: please ensure that you have a plan B in case we fail to revive Maaz | 08:45 |
| inetpro | *in time | 08:46 |
| Kilos | QA is here inetpro but i dont know what she needs doing | 08:46 |
| Kilos | you can take her over | 08:46 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ideally Maaz should be alive for the logs in the usual place | 08:46 |
| Kilos | yes i know | 08:47 |
| inetpro | but we can talk tonight if necessary | 08:47 |
| Kilos | methinks we must ask the crash kid to give you full rights there | 08:47 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 08:57 |
| inetpro | it's is personal server man | 08:57 |
| Kilos | ya but he trusts you and we only want maaz going | 08:58 |
| inetpro | ai! | 08:58 |
| Kilos | you not gonna fiddle more there | 08:58 |
| * inetpro can't be trusted just like anyone else :-) | 08:58 | |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:58 |
| inetpro | but I can try to be like an angel, will speak to him when I have a chance | 08:59 |
| Kilos | good man | 09:00 |
| Kilos | dont try just do it | 09:00 |
| Kilos | i will watch you | 09:01 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:01 |
| Kilos | like i dont fiddle on that linode server, just look after QA | 09:03 |
| === netsplit is now known as not_found | ||
| Kilos | ai! | 09:55 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 10:03 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 10:03 |
| magespawn | what is up today? | 10:14 |
| not_found | the sun... mostly | 10:19 |
| not_found | how are you magespawn? | 10:19 |
| magespawn | hey not_found, good and you? | 10:20 |
| Kilos | haha we hoping freenode and maaz are fixed for tomorrow nights meeting magespawn | 10:20 |
| not_found | always good thanks | 10:20 |
| magespawn | it is a good thing for the sun to be up | 10:20 |
| magespawn | does anyone know what has been happening lately? | 10:21 |
| Kilos | ddos | 10:21 |
| magespawn | i have been running into all sorts of problems all over the net | 10:21 |
| Kilos | since saterday avy i think | 10:21 |
| magespawn | seems to have caused a bit of a knock on effect | 10:23 |
| Kilos | was bad i had no connection to freenode for most of sunday and all saterday night | 10:29 |
| Kilos | and still today there are the odd netsplits | 10:29 |
| Private_User | machine acting up, gonna have to reboot. | 10:38 |
| Private_User | Be Back Later | 10:38 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:39 |
| Kilos- | ai! | 11:01 |
| Kilos- | internet very sicker | 11:21 |
| Kilos- | hi theblazehen | 11:21 |
| theblazehen | hey Kilos- | 11:21 |
| theblazehen | Kilos-, freenode problems? | 11:22 |
| Kilos- | ai! | 11:22 |
| Kilos- | i dunno | 11:22 |
| Kilos- | Vince-0 has left this server (Excess Flood). | 11:23 |
| Kilos- | like that kinda probs | 11:23 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 11:23 |
| Kilos- | and 2 of them at same time | 11:23 |
| theblazehen | DDOS by NTP reflection | 11:23 |
| theblazehen | 400gb/s | 11:23 |
| Kilos- | they gotta fix it before tomorrow night or we gonna have a messed up meeting | 11:24 |
| theblazehen | yeah, well they can't do much | 11:24 |
| theblazehen | people must stop attacking them | 11:25 |
| Kilos- | they must trace them and have them locked up | 11:25 |
| theblazehen | Can't do anything against UDP flood | 11:25 |
| Kilos- | or shot | 11:25 |
| theblazehen | not that simple. It will show as coming from a time server | 11:26 |
| Kilos- | oi | 11:26 |
| theblazehen | Attacker sends MONLIST command to NTP server, with a spoofed source IP pointing to freenode | 11:26 |
| theblazehen | then NTP server gives large reply message | 11:26 |
| Kilos- | so then its in the servers that tracebacks gotta be done | 11:28 |
| Kilos- | there must be some record somewhere of the person/s starting it | 11:28 |
| theblazehen | nope | 11:28 |
| theblazehen | UDP isn't TCP like that | 11:29 |
| theblazehen | So unless we get the help of the NSA, no chance | 11:29 |
| theblazehen | and it's probably a botnet sending NTP requests to the NTP servers | 11:29 |
| Kilos- | why dont they attack the nsa instead of freenode | 11:29 |
| Kilos- | surely the server has records of where them commands are coming from | 11:30 |
| theblazehen | Script kiddies, man... | 11:30 |
| theblazehen | NTP server does have records. But records say it comes from freenode | 11:30 |
| theblazehen | It works like this: | 11:30 |
| theblazehen | Normally you contact NTP server and ask for the time, and but your IP address in the source so that you can get the time | 11:31 |
| theblazehen | And server log will say you asked for the time | 11:31 |
| theblazehen | But attacker pretends to be freenode, and asks for the time. Server then tells freenode the time because it thinks freenode asked for the time | 11:32 |
| Kilos- | eeek | 11:32 |
| theblazehen | so you spend little data asking for time, and time data is large | 11:33 |
| Kilos- | then freenode gotta only allow registered ip's | 11:33 |
| Kilos- | so they can see who did what | 11:33 |
| theblazehen | But it's not the IRC server that is attacked | 11:34 |
| theblazehen | And you cant stop it | 11:34 |
| Kilos- | eish | 11:34 |
| theblazehen | like me shoving some trash in your hands | 11:35 |
| theblazehen | You cant just not have it, you will need to throw it away. | 11:35 |
| Kilos- | no man not same i would hit you | 11:35 |
| Kilos- | hehe | 11:35 |
| theblazehen | And with people shoving trash in your hands, people can't give you eg. food because your hands are full | 11:35 |
| theblazehen | lol | 11:35 |
| theblazehen | and there is too many people giving too much trash to throw it away fast enough to get all the food | 11:36 |
| Kilos- | i see the principle | 11:36 |
| Kilos- | but still think there must be a way to trace the bad peeps | 11:36 |
| Kilos- | or block them out because of not being registered | 11:37 |
| theblazehen | Not unless you have access to logs of everything on every router on the internet, you cant | 11:37 |
| theblazehen | not even NSA can do it all | 11:37 |
| Kilos- | whew | 11:37 |
| theblazehen | yeah :( | 11:38 |
| Kilos- | too much for my head to fathom | 11:38 |
| theblazehen | Kilos-, http://blog.cloudflare.com/understanding-and-mitigating-ntp-based-ddos-attacks might explain better | 11:40 |
| theblazehen | wb Vince-0 | 11:43 |
| theblazehen | goddamn DDOS.. | 11:43 |
| Vince-0 | sjoe, that's my DSL being maxed by these noobs in the office | 11:46 |
| theblazehen | Vince-0, you can't low them dows? | 11:46 |
| theblazehen | down* | 11:46 |
| Vince-0 | sure, just not my network | 11:50 |
| Vince-0 | I just work here | 11:50 |
| inetpro | Kilos-: for the record, NTP has very little to do with freenode and being registered | 12:00 |
| inetpro | NTP = Network Time Protocol | 12:00 |
| inetpro | unfortunately everyone including freenode depends on time being accurate | 12:01 |
| charl_ | good afternoon | 12:01 |
| inetpro | hi charl_ | 12:01 |
| charl_ | maaz still dead ? | 12:01 |
| charl_ | hi inetpro | 12:01 |
| inetpro | no coffee for charl_ today | 12:02 |
| charl_ | :( | 12:02 |
| inetpro | at least freenode seems somewhat more stable today | 12:03 |
| Kilos- | i dont understand all that stuff | 12:05 |
| charl_ | inetpro: how's it going? you've been silent | 12:05 |
| Kilos- | why is a time thing messing up freenode | 12:05 |
| charl_ | this was quite funny https://gist.github.com/bortzmeyer/8782108 | 12:06 |
| charl_ | trying to get users to ddos themselves by pointing them back at localhost | 12:06 |
| Kilos- | QA coffee on | 12:06 |
| * QA washes some mugs | 12:06 | |
| charl_ | Kilos-: coffee please | 12:06 |
| inetpro | charl_: all good thanks, weekend was just busy | 12:06 |
| charl_ | bah | 12:06 |
| charl_ | QA: coffee please | 12:06 |
| QA | charl_: Yessir | 12:06 |
| charl_ | Kilos-: i mean, hi :) | 12:06 |
| Kilos- | lol | 12:06 |
| inetpro | Kilos-: the NTP thing affects not only freenode | 12:07 |
| inetpro | it has a massive impact on a big part of the interwebs | 12:07 |
| charl_ | inetpro: do you know of any technical details posted? was it in fact a ntp amplification attack? | 12:08 |
| inetpro | but freenode could also be a specific target | 12:08 |
| inetpro | charl_: am not sure, just noticed ThatGraemeGuy and Kilos- talking about it | 12:09 |
| inetpro | oops, not ThatGraemeGuy but theblazehen | 12:09 |
| charl_ | ah, missed part of the convo | 12:09 |
| QA | Coffee's ready for Kilos- and charl_! | 12:10 |
| Kilos- | QA danke | 12:10 |
| QA | Bitteschön | 12:10 |
| theblazehen | inetpro, what it sounded like on /r/sysadmin | 12:10 |
| Kilos- | hi Xethron | 12:11 |
| inetpro | theblazehen: /r/sysadmin? | 12:11 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| inetpro | theblazehen: reddit? | 12:12 |
| theblazehen | inetpro, yeah | 12:12 |
| inetpro | ok | 12:12 |
| theblazehen | Just got my GPU :D | 12:12 |
| Xethron | Morning Kilos | 12:12 |
| inetpro | sad that sysadmins haven't sorted their servers | 12:14 |
| inetpro | their NTP servers* | 12:16 |
| theblazehen | inetpro, yeah.. | 12:17 |
| theblazehen | such *.net | 13:54 |
| theblazehen | much *.split | 13:54 |
| magespawn | later all | 14:18 |
| === Arcanum_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| Kilos | hmm... | 16:27 |
| Kilos | looks like them swines did some serious damage the weekend | 17:50 |
| charl_ | good evening | 18:31 |
| charl_ | meeting tomorrow evening? | 18:31 |
| charl_ | good, thought i almost missed it | 18:31 |
| Kilos | haha what do you want to change | 18:33 |
| charl_ | who, me? | 18:33 |
| Kilos | ya | 18:34 |
| Kilos | i forgot to find out how to change the social channel name | 18:34 |
| Kilos | but i think that will need to be done by the channel owner to make it official off topic | 18:35 |
| charl_ | are you guys going to get maaz up before tomorrow evening | 18:35 |
| charl_ | otherwise there is noone to do the minutes etc | 18:35 |
| Kilos | we hope so | 18:35 |
| charl_ | isn't cocooncrash the one running it? | 18:36 |
| Kilos | ya an all ibids can do it | 18:36 |
| charl_ | he's working at feestbook now right? | 18:36 |
| Kilos | ya maaz is on his server but there aint been a reply from him yet | 18:36 |
| Kilos | ? | 18:36 |
| Kilos | in the usa is all i know | 18:36 |
| Kilos | inetpro feedback? | 18:41 |
| inetpro | Kilos: none yet | 19:03 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: but I think he's only like waking up now | 19:04 |
| charl_ | if he's on the west coast he'll be like 12 hours off indeed | 19:04 |
| Kilos | its about lunch time there already | 19:04 |
| charl_ | or was that 10 hours | 19:04 |
| Kilos | oh not 9 | 19:04 |
| charl_ | wait hold on | 19:05 |
| Kilos | what city? | 19:05 |
| Kilos | ask the bot | 19:05 |
| inetpro | 11:05 AM | 19:05 |
| charl_ | 11:05 Maandag (PST) - Tijd in San Francisco, Californië, Verenigde Staten | 19:05 |
| charl_ | yes indeed | 19:05 |
| inetpro | that is too early for anyone on a Monday morning :-) | 19:05 |
| Kilos | QA time in san francico | 19:05 |
| QA | Kilos: That didn't seem to agree with me | 19:05 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:06 |
| Kilos | QA stupid cow | 19:06 |
| QA | Oh well, we can't all be perfect all the time. | 19:06 |
| charl_ | QA: googld time in san francisco | 19:06 |
| QA | charl_: Huh? | 19:06 |
| charl_ | QA: google time in san francisco | 19:06 |
| QA | charl_: "Current time in San Francisco - World Time Clock & Map" http://24timezones.com/world_directory/current_san_francisco_time.php :: "Current local time in U.S.A. – California – San Francisco" http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=224 :: "San Francisco Commuters Missed a Murder By Staring ... - US - Time" http://nation.time.com/2013/10/09/san-francisco-commuters-missed-a-murder-by-staring-at-their-phones/ :: "San Francisco, C… | 19:06 |
| charl_ | oh it doesn't have those "hints" that google has at the top, only the actual results | 19:06 |
| inetpro | ok, I got hold of him and he'll have a look when his hands are free | 19:09 |
| Kilos | cool | 19:09 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:19 |
| cocooncrash | Maaz_: ping | 20:11 |
| Maaz_ | cocooncrash: pong | 20:11 |
| === Maaz_ is now known as Maaz | ||
| inetpro | thanks cocooncrash | 20:23 |
| inetpro | Maaz: wb | 20:24 |
| Maaz | Thank you so much inetpro my good good friend | 20:24 |
| superfly | cocooncrash: hey dad, congrats! | 20:35 |
| cocooncrash | superfly: Thanks :) | 20:35 |
| inetpro | oh wow cocooncrash, you have a newborn? | 20:43 |
| inetpro | Congrats, I'm sure he will bring you many hours of blessings and joy! | 20:45 |
| * inetpro switches off the lights | 20:49 | |
| inetpro | good night | 20:49 |
| cocooncrash | inetpro: Yup, ~3 weeks ago | 21:02 |
| === spin123456 is now known as spinza | ||
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