[03:14] <Private_User> good morning
[03:17] <Private_User> QA: seen maaz?
[03:17] <QA> Private_User: maaz was last seen 2 months, 22 days, 10 hours, 10 minutes and 9 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-12-03 17:07:24 UTC], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-12-03 16:44:55 UTC
[03:18] <Private_User> QA: who is online?
[03:18] <QA> Private_User: I'm afraid I have no idea
[03:20] <Private_User> sorry people was just a little bored :D
[03:20] <Private_User> hehe
[03:20] <Private_User> QA Thank You
[03:20] <QA> sure thing, Private_User
[05:14] <Kilos> QA coffee on
[05:14]  * QA puts the kettle on
[05:15] <Kilos> morning nlsthzn and all others that are awake
[05:18] <QA> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[05:18] <Kilos> QA thanks love
[05:18] <QA> sure thing, Kilos
[05:23] <nuvolari_> hallo oom Kilos 
[05:23] <nuvolari_> o/ morning Private_User 
[05:23] <nuvolari_> er, I got a tail
[05:23] <Kilos> more nuvolari_ 
[05:24] <Kilos> er ja
[05:24] <nuvolari_> stertjie van agter en 'n stertjie van voor
[05:25] <bduk1> Good morning everyone
[05:25] <Kilos> hi bduk1 
[05:25] <nuvolari> hello bduk1 
[05:27] <nuvolari> oh dear
[05:27] <nuvolari> oops?
[05:27] <Kilos> what?
[05:27] <nuvolari> het oom Kilos 'n lekker naweek gehad?
[05:27] <nuvolari> 07:26:58             <-- | bduk1 (~Thunderbi@196-210-137-164.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[05:28] <Kilos> oh ya freenode is still sick
[05:28] <Kilos> was a bad weekend for them
[05:28] <Kilos> maazstill ofline and meeting tomorrow night
[05:37] <nuvolari> :O
[05:37] <nuvolari> I must remember
[05:37] <nuvolari> thanks for the reminder oom Kilos 
[05:37] <Kilos> np
[05:37] <Kilos> you need to tell the monkey, i dunno where he is
[05:38] <Kilos> hasnt been online for a long time
[06:05] <Private_User> morning nuvolari and Kilos
[06:05] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[06:07] <Private_User> yeah me also last time I forgot about the meeting
[06:07] <Private_User> what time is it?
[06:07] <Kilos> 20.30
[06:07] <Private_User> cool thanks
[06:07] <Kilos> np
[06:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning
[06:12] <Kilos> morning ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:37] <Kilos> hi hekkwan 
[06:38] <Kilos> hi Guest23692 where is tinuva
[06:39] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[06:42] <superfly> morning Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy, Private_User, nuvolari
[06:43] <superfly> and bduk
[06:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning :-)
[06:54] <Private_User> morning superfly 
[07:05] <nuvolari> hello's superfly 
[07:15] <nuvolari> o/ hi Vince-0 
[07:15] <Vince-0> Hi!
[07:15] <Vince-0> surp?
[07:15] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:16] <Vince-0> Hi!
[07:16] <Vince-0> Lekka Maanharedag
[07:16] <Kilos> lol
[07:18] <Vince-0> I believe there's a meeting tonight
[07:18] <Kilos> tomorrow night Vince-0 
[07:18] <Kilos> wb Tinuva 
[07:21] <Vince-0> ow
[07:21] <Vince-0> k
[07:38] <Kilos> inetpro more, gaan jy die hoe vonk probeer kry by die vergadering more aand?
[07:38] <Kilos> hoee
[07:38] <Kilos> ai!
[07:38] <Kilos> high
[08:08] <Kilos-> ai!
[08:14] <Kilos> hehe
[08:14] <Kilos> those okes caused bad probs the weekend seems like
[08:15] <netsplit> yup
[08:16] <Kilos> hope its fixed before tomorrow nights meeting
[08:16] <Kilos> and maaz too
[08:16] <Kilos> hi tumbleweed do you know how to restart maaz?
[08:17] <Kilos> and dont forget our meet tomorrow night hey
[08:22] <tumbleweed> Kilos: sorry, I don't have access to the machine it runs on
[08:29] <Kilos> ah ok ty tumbleweed 
[08:30] <Kilos> we need to contact the crashkid somehow then
[08:33] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:33] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[08:34] <inetpro> Kilos: hoeë vonk?
[08:34] <inetpro> highvoltage? 
[08:34] <Kilos> yeah
[08:34] <inetpro> kan seker probeer, wat het jy op die agenda?
[08:35] <Kilos> daai registered nicks only
[08:35] <Kilos> hy moet dit doen ne
[08:36] <inetpro> wel hy hoef seker nie op die vergadering te wees nie 
[08:36] <inetpro> kan net na die tyd sê hy moet dit doen, as hy die enigste ene is wat dit kan doen
[08:36] <Kilos> ja man betrek hom weer by ons
[08:39]  * Kilos dont like losing the old big names we had
[08:42] <inetpro> Kilos: I sent him a message, up to him to see whether he can make it or not
[08:42] <Kilos> ty
[08:42] <Kilos> and the crash kid too 
[08:42] <Kilos> the bot not here
[08:43] <inetpro> told him
[08:43] <Kilos> ty
[08:44] <inetpro> yw
[08:45] <inetpro> nuvolari: please ensure that you have a plan B in case we fail to revive Maaz
[08:46] <inetpro> *in time
[08:46] <Kilos> QA is here inetpro but i dont know what she needs doing
[08:46] <Kilos> you can take her over
[08:46] <inetpro> Kilos: ideally Maaz should be alive for the logs in the usual place
[08:47] <Kilos> yes i know
[08:47] <inetpro> but we can talk tonight if necessary
[08:47] <Kilos> methinks we must ask the crash kid to give you full rights there
[08:57] <inetpro> hmm...
[08:57] <inetpro> it's is personal server man
[08:58] <Kilos> ya but he trusts you and we only want maaz going
[08:58] <inetpro> ai!
[08:58] <Kilos> you not gonna fiddle more there
[08:58]  * inetpro can't be trusted just like anyone else :-)
[08:58] <Kilos> ai!
[08:59] <inetpro> but I can try to be like an angel, will speak to him when I have a chance
[09:00] <Kilos> good man
[09:00] <Kilos> dont try just do it
[09:01] <Kilos> i will watch you
[09:01] <Kilos> hehe
[09:03] <Kilos> like i dont fiddle on that linode server, just look after QA 
[09:55] <Kilos> ai!
[10:03] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[10:03] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[10:14] <magespawn> what is up today?
[10:19] <not_found> the sun... mostly
[10:19] <not_found> how are you magespawn?
[10:20] <magespawn> hey not_found, good and you?
[10:20] <Kilos> haha we hoping freenode and maaz are fixed for tomorrow nights meeting magespawn 
[10:20] <not_found> always good thanks
[10:20] <magespawn> it is a good thing for the sun to be up
[10:21] <magespawn> does anyone know what has been happening lately?
[10:21] <Kilos> ddos
[10:21] <magespawn> i have been running into all sorts of problems all over the net
[10:21] <Kilos> since saterday avy i think
[10:23] <magespawn> seems to have caused a bit of a knock on effect
[10:29] <Kilos> was bad i had no connection to freenode for most of sunday and all saterday night
[10:29] <Kilos> and still today there are the odd netsplits
[10:38] <Private_User> machine acting up, gonna have to reboot.
[10:38] <Private_User> Be Back Later
[10:39] <Kilos> ai!
[11:01] <Kilos-> ai!
[11:21] <Kilos-> internet very sicker
[11:21] <Kilos-> hi theblazehen 
[11:21] <theblazehen> hey Kilos- 
[11:22] <theblazehen> Kilos-, freenode problems?
[11:22] <Kilos-> ai!
[11:22] <Kilos-> i dunno
[11:23] <Kilos-> Vince-0 has left this server (Excess Flood).
[11:23] <Kilos-> like that kinda probs
[11:23] <theblazehen> yeah
[11:23] <Kilos-> and 2 of them at same time
[11:23] <theblazehen> DDOS by NTP reflection
[11:23] <theblazehen> 400gb/s
[11:24] <Kilos-> they gotta fix it before tomorrow night or we gonna have a messed up meeting
[11:24] <theblazehen> yeah, well they can't do much
[11:25] <theblazehen> people must stop attacking them
[11:25] <Kilos-> they must trace them and have them locked up
[11:25] <theblazehen> Can't do anything against UDP flood
[11:25] <Kilos-> or shot
[11:26] <theblazehen> not that simple. It will show as coming from a time server
[11:26] <Kilos-> oi
[11:26] <theblazehen> Attacker sends MONLIST command to NTP server, with a spoofed source IP pointing to freenode
[11:26] <theblazehen> then NTP server gives large reply message 
[11:28] <Kilos-> so then its in the servers that tracebacks gotta be done
[11:28] <Kilos-> there must be some record somewhere of the person/s starting it
[11:28] <theblazehen> nope
[11:29] <theblazehen> UDP isn't TCP like that
[11:29] <theblazehen> So unless we get the help of the NSA, no chance
[11:29] <theblazehen> and it's probably a botnet sending NTP requests to the NTP servers
[11:29] <Kilos-> why dont they attack the nsa instead of freenode
[11:30] <Kilos-> surely the server has records of where them commands are coming from
[11:30] <theblazehen> Script kiddies, man...
[11:30] <theblazehen> NTP server does have records. But records say it comes from freenode
[11:30] <theblazehen> It works like this:
[11:31] <theblazehen> Normally you contact NTP server and ask for the time, and but your IP address in the source so that you can get the time
[11:31] <theblazehen> And server log will say you asked for the time
[11:32] <theblazehen> But attacker pretends to be freenode, and asks for the time. Server then tells freenode the time because it thinks freenode asked for the time
[11:32] <Kilos-> eeek
[11:33] <theblazehen> so you spend little data asking for time, and time data is large
[11:33] <Kilos-> then freenode gotta only allow registered ip's
[11:33] <Kilos-> so they can see who did what
[11:34] <theblazehen> But it's not the IRC server that is attacked
[11:34] <theblazehen> And you cant stop it
[11:34] <Kilos-> eish
[11:35] <theblazehen> like me shoving some trash in your hands
[11:35] <theblazehen> You cant just not have it, you will need to throw it away. 
[11:35] <Kilos-> no man not same i would hit you
[11:35] <Kilos-> hehe
[11:35] <theblazehen> And with people shoving trash in your hands, people can't give you eg. food because your hands are full
[11:35] <theblazehen> lol
[11:36] <theblazehen> and there is too many people giving too much trash to throw it away fast enough to get all the food
[11:36] <Kilos-> i see the principle
[11:36] <Kilos-> but still think there must be a way to trace the bad peeps
[11:37] <Kilos-> or block them out because of not being registered
[11:37] <theblazehen> Not unless you have access to logs of everything on every router on the internet, you cant
[11:37] <theblazehen> not even NSA can do it all
[11:37] <Kilos-> whew
[11:38] <theblazehen> yeah :(
[11:38] <Kilos-> too much for my head to fathom
[11:40] <theblazehen> Kilos-, http://blog.cloudflare.com/understanding-and-mitigating-ntp-based-ddos-attacks might explain better
[11:43] <theblazehen> wb Vince-0 
[11:43] <theblazehen> goddamn DDOS..
[11:46] <Vince-0> sjoe, that's my DSL being maxed by these noobs in the office
[11:46] <theblazehen> Vince-0, you can't low them dows?
[11:46] <theblazehen> down*
[11:50] <Vince-0> sure, just not my network
[11:50] <Vince-0> I just work here 
[12:00] <inetpro> Kilos-: for the record, NTP has very little to do with freenode and being registered
[12:00] <inetpro> NTP = Network Time Protocol
[12:01] <inetpro> unfortunately everyone including freenode depends on time being accurate
[12:01] <charl_> good afternoon
[12:01] <inetpro> hi charl_
[12:01] <charl_> maaz still dead ?
[12:01] <charl_> hi inetpro 
[12:02] <inetpro> no coffee for charl_ today
[12:02] <charl_> :(
[12:03] <inetpro> at least freenode seems somewhat more stable today
[12:05] <Kilos-> i dont understand all that stuff
[12:05] <charl_> inetpro: how's it going? you've been silent
[12:05] <Kilos-> why is a time thing messing up freenode
[12:06] <charl_> this was quite funny https://gist.github.com/bortzmeyer/8782108
[12:06] <charl_> trying to get users to ddos themselves by pointing them back at localhost
[12:06] <Kilos-> QA coffee on
[12:06]  * QA washes some mugs
[12:06] <charl_> Kilos-: coffee please
[12:06] <inetpro> charl_: all good thanks, weekend was just busy
[12:06] <charl_> bah
[12:06] <charl_> QA: coffee please
[12:06] <QA> charl_: Yessir
[12:06] <charl_> Kilos-: i mean, hi :)
[12:06] <Kilos-> lol
[12:07] <inetpro> Kilos-: the NTP thing affects not only freenode
[12:07] <inetpro> it has a massive impact on a big part of the interwebs
[12:08] <charl_> inetpro: do you know of any technical details posted? was it in fact a ntp amplification attack?
[12:08] <inetpro> but freenode could also be a specific target
[12:09] <inetpro> charl_: am not sure, just noticed ThatGraemeGuy and Kilos- talking about it 
[12:09] <inetpro> oops, not ThatGraemeGuy but theblazehen
[12:09] <charl_> ah, missed part of the convo
[12:10] <QA> Coffee's ready for Kilos- and charl_!
[12:10] <Kilos-> QA danke
[12:10] <QA> Bitteschön
[12:10] <theblazehen> inetpro, what it sounded like on /r/sysadmin
[12:11] <Kilos-> hi Xethron 
[12:11] <inetpro> theblazehen:  /r/sysadmin?
[12:12] <inetpro> theblazehen: reddit?
[12:12] <theblazehen> inetpro, yeah
[12:12] <inetpro> ok
[12:12] <theblazehen> Just got my GPU :D
[12:12] <Xethron> Morning Kilos
[12:14] <inetpro> sad that sysadmins haven't sorted their servers
[12:16] <inetpro> their NTP servers*
[12:17] <theblazehen> inetpro, yeah..
[13:54] <theblazehen> such *.net
[13:54] <theblazehen> much *.split
[14:18] <magespawn> later all
[16:27] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:50] <Kilos> looks like them swines did some serious damage the weekend
[18:31] <charl_> good evening
[18:31] <charl_> meeting tomorrow evening?
[18:31] <charl_> good, thought i almost missed it
[18:33] <Kilos> haha what do you want to change
[18:33] <charl_> who, me?
[18:34] <Kilos> ya
[18:34] <Kilos> i forgot to find out how to change the social channel name
[18:35] <Kilos> but i think that will need to be done by the channel owner to make it official off topic
[18:35] <charl_> are you guys going to get maaz up before tomorrow evening
[18:35] <charl_> otherwise there is noone to do the minutes etc
[18:35] <Kilos> we hope so
[18:36] <charl_> isn't cocooncrash the one running it?
[18:36] <Kilos> ya an all ibids can do it
[18:36] <charl_> he's working at feestbook now right?
[18:36] <Kilos> ya maaz is on his server but there aint been a reply from him yet
[18:36] <Kilos> ?
[18:36] <Kilos> in the usa is all i know
[18:41] <Kilos> inetpro feedback?
[19:03] <inetpro> Kilos: none yet
[19:03] <Kilos> ai!
[19:04] <inetpro> Kilos: but I think he's only like waking up now
[19:04] <charl_> if he's on the west coast he'll be like 12 hours off indeed
[19:04] <Kilos> its about lunch time there already
[19:04] <charl_> or was that 10 hours
[19:04] <Kilos> oh not 9
[19:05] <charl_> wait hold on
[19:05] <Kilos> what city?
[19:05] <Kilos> ask the bot
[19:05] <inetpro> 11:05 AM
[19:05] <charl_> 11:05 Maandag (PST) - Tijd in San Francisco, Californië, Verenigde Staten
[19:05] <charl_> yes indeed
[19:05] <inetpro> that is too early for anyone on a Monday morning :-)
[19:05] <Kilos> QA time in san francico
[19:05] <QA> Kilos: That didn't seem to agree with me
[19:06] <Kilos> ai!
[19:06] <Kilos> QA stupid cow
[19:06] <QA> Oh well, we can't all be perfect all the time.
[19:06] <charl_> QA: googld time in san francisco
[19:06] <QA> charl_: Huh?
[19:06] <charl_> QA: google time in san francisco
[19:06] <QA> charl_: "Current time in San Francisco - World Time Clock & Map" http://24timezones.com/world_directory/current_san_francisco_time.php :: "Current local time in U.S.A. – California – San Francisco" http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=224 :: "San Francisco Commuters Missed a Murder By Staring ... - US - Time" http://nation.time.com/2013/10/09/san-francisco-commuters-missed-a-murder-by-staring-at-their-phones/ :: "San Francisco, C…
[19:06] <charl_> oh it doesn't have those "hints" that google has at the top, only the actual results
[19:09] <inetpro> ok, I got hold of him and he'll have a look when his hands are free
[19:09] <Kilos> cool
[19:19] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:11] <cocooncrash> Maaz_: ping
[20:11] <Maaz_> cocooncrash: pong
[20:23] <inetpro> thanks cocooncrash
[20:24] <inetpro> Maaz: wb
[20:24] <Maaz> Thank you so much inetpro my good good friend
[20:35] <superfly> cocooncrash: hey dad, congrats!
[20:35] <cocooncrash> superfly: Thanks :)
[20:43] <inetpro> oh wow cocooncrash, you have a newborn?
[20:45] <inetpro> Congrats, I'm sure he will bring you many hours of blessings and joy!
[20:49]  * inetpro switches off the lights
[20:49] <inetpro> good night
[21:02] <cocooncrash> inetpro: Yup, ~3 weeks ago