[00:01] <Ogidni> holaa
[00:03] <Ogidni> what?
[00:05] <shahan> does anyone know why the ubuntu gui drivers thing "Details" says my graphics driver is IronLake Mobile when  i know it's intel(R) HD?
[00:05] <Ogidni> not sure how this.,.
[00:06] <usr13> shahan: lspci |pastebinit  #Send us URL and we will look and see.
[00:06] <marco> Are there mirrors of ddebs.ubuntu.com? Google turns up nothing on this.
[00:07] <shahan> ok here is my lspci, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6984617/
[00:07] <shahan> thanks you
[00:07] <shahan> *thank
[00:08] <nicy> how to copy file from root to desktop ????????
[00:10] <Beldar> shahan, Your lspci says intel, do you have an actual graphic issue?
[00:11] <BigTaxi> I need help with an API mismatch- something is wrong with my NVIDIA kernels
[00:11] <BigTaxi> badly... grad student with things to print off
[00:11] <shahan> Beldar: no, everything works fine except for an odd startup, where the screen is blank purple. I just thought it was odd that is says "ironlake mobile"
[00:11] <shahan> Beldar: other than that, my laptop runs fine.
[00:12] <Beldar> shahan, Here is the google search on that, have fun. ;) https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ironlake+mobile&gbv=1&sei=SY4KU4-oCYOIogSntYHwAQ
[00:12] <Beldar> nicy, What files and why?
[00:13] <BigTaxi> Any help would be greatly appreciated
[00:13] <Beldar> nicy, some details and context helps here.
[00:15] <usr13> shahan: Looks like it's being identified properly.
[00:17] <BigTaxi> can someone give me the commands to brute-force and Nvidia uninstall and reinstall/
[00:18] <daftykins> BigTaxi: why is it erroring? :P
[00:18] <usr13> BigTaxi: I'd just download from nvidia.com and install manually.
[00:18] <BigTaxi> API mismatch-GUI doesn't boot, just a terminal
[00:18] <Beldar> usr13, really, your suggesting proprietary drivers?
[00:18] <BigTaxi> different nvidia kernels, one is 173.14.39, one is 304.116
[00:19] <Pistols> IS the MacBook Air 1,1 compatible with installing Ubuntu 13.0?
[00:19] <BigTaxi> i cant, anyway,im on my laptop now. my PC has the problem
[00:19] <Beldar> BigTaxi, This are no named kernels
[00:19] <Beldar> not*
[00:19] <usr13> Beldar: Looks to me that is what he wants.... Just telling him how ...
[00:20] <Pistols> Can anyone tell me, IS the MacBook Air 1,1 compatible with installing Ubuntu 13.0?
  Sorry i was searching in the web
[00:20] <Beldar> usr13, I see that no where, and if you suggest it you should include the problems associated.
[00:20] <der0b> pistols, patience, when somebody can answer, they will
[00:20] <Pistols> Thank you
[00:20] <BigTaxi> There's actually a lot of stuff on the internet about how to solve it, but im doing something wrong and getting desperate
[00:21] <usr13> Beldar: Not sure what you are trying to say.
[00:22] <usr13> Beldar: ... and not sure you do either ...
  the are some folders in root and i want to copy them in usb HOW
[00:22] <BigTaxi> The first step is to purge ALL nvidia drivers.How do I do that?
[00:22] <Beldar> usr13, This channel does not suggest proprietary drivers unless that is the only option is my point, or they are in the additional drivers options. And if you suggest a proprietary you would mention that they in  general do not follow kernel upgrades.
[00:22] <kikjezrous> anybody got an idea of what's going on with ubuntu one?
[00:22] <nicy> HELP pleaseee
[00:23] <Beldar> usr13, You can keep the snarkiness ti yourself by the way
[00:23] <kikjezrous> nicy, you'll have to wait til sombody who's got an idea of how to help you comes around.  this is an irc, after all.
[00:24] <Beldar> nicy, I asked you a simple question on this.
[00:24] <usr13> Beldar: Are you not interested in the PM I sent you. (And it appears to be, you initiated the "snarky" comments.)
  What is it ??
[00:25] <Beldar> nicy, look at the channel posts
[00:25] <Beldar> I directed it at you Nickeeh_
[00:25] <Beldar> nicy,
[00:27] <nicy> Beldar actually i was ust messing with openning fils as root and tried to copy some files in it but i ust couldnt get them back ?????
[00:27] <usr13> Beldar: With apt, just uninstall them.
[00:27] <Beldar> nicy, Give some context as to what the file are, why and if you need permissions kept at the least
[00:27] <usr13> BigTaxi: With apt, just uninstall them.  (there's a purge option)
[00:27] <Haroon> Do you have a website? You can make bitcoins with it!   http://t.co/Tycje8HT1b?t=Bitcoins+For+Webmasters
[00:28] <Beldar> !spam | Haroon
[00:28] <Haroon> ok
[00:28] <usr13> Beldar: Sorry, that was for BigTaxi :)
[00:28] <Haroon> I am being sorry
 videos and some rar files
[00:29] <Beldar> nicy, what does this command show.  lsb_release -a
[00:29] <femguy> do absolutely all webmail providers ask for a telephone number?
[00:29] <femguy> do you know of any that doesnt?
[00:29] <nicy> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 13.10 Release:	13.10 Codename:	saucy knowledge@ubuntu:~$
[00:30] <Beldar> femguy, Not really a ubuntu issue is all.
[00:30] <nicy>  <Beldar>
[00:30] <femguy> ok
[00:30] <BigTaxi> OK,now my problem is an input/output error
[00:30] <Beldar> nicy, You can tab complete nicks, trying to figure out why you would have rar or videos in root.
[00:30] <Newbie44> can some help,  Im tring to  install amd-app.sh  but keeps say 32bit system found
[00:31] <Newbie44> please download and install x86 package
[00:31] <Newbie44> I downloaded the 32bit linux package from amd, not sure why I am getting this error
[00:31] <nicy>  <Beldar>  what do you mean ???
[00:31] <Newbie44> Anyone?
[00:32] <Beldar> nicy, When asked what the file are you answer with "<nicy> <Beldar> videos and some rar files"
[00:32] <der0b> newbie44, you need to ask and give it some time
  yes
[00:32] <Beldar> nicy, Why would this e be in root?
[00:33] <Beldar> those*
[00:33] <nicy> i did that
[00:33] <BigTaxi> i've gotten rid of a kernel module, and now it says NVIDIA: could not open the device file
[00:33] <Beldar> nicy, Are you running in root?
 NO
[00:34] <usr13> BigTaxi: What says "could not open the device file"?
[00:34] <Beldar> nicy, Then why did you put them there, just makes no sense form here is all.
[00:34] <Beldar> from*
 I copied them by mistake
[00:34] <BigTaxi> NVIDIA. I'm booting to a terminal instead of a GUI
[00:34] <BigTaxi> uh... when i pput in startx, thats the error
[00:34] <Beldar> nicy, Sorry I just don;t understand your end goal here is all.
[00:35] <Newbie44> der0b: thats not it , it says refer to the log in the same directory
[00:35] <BigTaxi> this is after i removed the update that caused all this... now i only have an ancient prop driver
[00:35] <Beldar> nicy, gksudo nautilus open as root, be very careful.
 I will be very careful but please help me to get them back ::
[00:36] <Beldar> nicy, I can't I don;t understand, others may.
[00:36] <Beldar> give the last command is more than I should have done to be honest
[00:37] <Beldar> giving
[00:37] <nicy>  <Beldar> then why were you asking me all these questions ??!!!
[00:37] <usr13> BigTaxi: Are you booted into the Graphic User Interface?
[00:37] <BigTaxi> No.
[00:37] <BigTaxi> usr13 no
[00:38] <usr13> BigTaxi: So what do you have?
[00:38] <Beldar> nicy, Trying to understand what you had done and what the end goal is, you have made no sense so far.
[00:38] <BigTaxi> Currently, a back and white terminal-esque thing
[00:38] <BigTaxi> that errors when I input 'startx'
[00:39] <BigTaxi> also, how do I do your name on the chat?
[00:39] <usr13> BigTaxi: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf    #What does that say?
[00:39] <BigTaxi> no such file or directory
[00:39] <usr13> BigTaxi: Good.
[00:40] <Beldar> nicy, You seem to have been messing around in a way you should not and now want it fixed, but can't really explain what you have done, nor fix it yourself. ;)
[00:40] <usr13> BigTaxi: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list   #What does that say?
[00:40] <nicy> <Beldar   that's right
[00:40] <der0b> Beldar, he made a mistake and doesn't know how to fix it.  spanking him for doing so isn't very helpful
[00:40] <der0b> nicy, check your personal message, i'll give you a hand
[00:41] <Beldar> der0b, They asked me why the questions and stated the facts.
[00:41] <Beldar> I*
[00:41] <BigTaxi> usr13: that gives me a readout of nvidia 'things'. want them all?
[00:41] <usr13> BigTaxi: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list   |pastebinit  #Show us the URL
[00:42] <BigTaxi> usr13 there is a clear difference- I have nvidia-173 and nvidia-304
[00:42] <BigTaxi> can't, not this computer
[00:42] <usr13> BigTaxi: So your goal is to uninstall them. Right?
[00:42] <Beldar> der0b, I tried to disconnect with a fair I did not understand and still asked for help, read the dialogue.
[00:42] <Beldar> was asked*
[00:43] <BigTaxi> just to get it working... unistalling 304 doesnt work. I'm going to try 173, which i believe is proprietary
[00:43] <usr13> BigTaxi: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[00:43] <kikjezrous> mind if i interrupt?
[00:43] <BigTaxi> purge it all?
[00:43] <usr13> BigTaxi: Yep
[00:44] <der0b> beldar, i did read it, he's clearly having trouble communicating.  just telling him to run a command with root privs and to be careful isn't helpful.  i don't have anything else to say on the subject, i'll help him get his files back
[00:44] <BigTaxi> unable to locate packages
[00:44] <Beldar> kikjezrous, This is an open channel.
[00:44] <usr13> BigTaxi: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update
[00:45] <Grzy7316> so oddly enough creting a new install image using the startup disk creator and starting with nomodeset works to get me to a graphical environment :)
[00:45] <kikjezrous> my kernel keeps randomly panicking; it seems graphically related based on the difficulty i had trying to find my drivers and the frequent graphical glitches i get moments before the kernel restarts.  additionally, xorg has always been a resource hog, but this has been the case on every machine i've built.  it's getting worse, with panics happening at least once a day. thoughts?
[00:46] <Beldar> Grzy7316, Cool, I never use unetbootin myself, probably not the issue but glad you are rollin.
[00:46] <BigTaxi> all updates are complete, except some for a game I don't play.
[00:46] <BigTaxi> I've never installed them
[00:46] <usr13> BigTaxi: You've never installed what?
[00:46] <BigTaxi> just updates for the game doom. they are not the problem.
[00:47] <usr13> BigTaxi: sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[00:47] <Grzy7316> Beldar took me bloody long enough to get the image onto my server, as It is setup with no network acess at the moment because I have some highly sensitive business info on it.
[00:47] <BigTaxi> unable to locate packages
[00:47] <BigTaxi> nvidia-bug-report.log.gz
[00:47] <Beldar> ;)
[00:48] <usr13> BigTaxi: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia* |pastebinit  #Send us resulting URL
[00:48] <BigTaxi> I can't send anything, I'm on my laptop and the problem is on my PC, which is restricted to the terminal
[00:48] <shahan> how do i make powertop tunables permanent/
[00:49] <shahan> ?
[00:49] <Grzy7316> heres hoping that wiping the windows partition in my install doen't screw me over...
[00:49] <kikjezrous> *raises glass with Grzy7316*
[00:49] <Beldar> Grzy7316, It a uefi?
[00:49] <Grzy7316> since tere seems to be no way to get to my uefi stuff without loading into windows
[00:49] <Grzy7316> Beldar yes it is
[00:49] <usr13> BigTaxi: This PC is connected to the internet.  Right?
[00:49] <BigTaxi> yes
[00:50] <Beldar> Grzy7316, Di you check that thread link I gave you from the ubuntu forums?
[00:50] <Beldar> Did*
[00:50] <usr13> BigTaxi: Good, now go to the PC and type "ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia* |pastebinit"   #Hit enter, and shhow us resulting URL
[00:50] <BigTaxi> oh,cool
[00:50] <BigTaxi> ok
[00:50] <usr13> BigTaxi: (Show us resulting URL here)
[00:51] <Grzy7316> but booting with nomodeset seems to get me into a working environment. After I finish this only my gaming rig will be windows based
[00:51] <Beldar> Grzy7316, You will still have a gpt partition table is all.
[00:51] <kikjezrous> usr13: i suspect it is, unless he's on the irc from another machine.
[00:52] <Grzy7316> kikjezrous I will raise a glass to you as well. I keep a biottle next to my workstations because of days like today where things refuse to install :)
[00:52] <Grzy7316> yeah
[00:52] <Beldar> Grzy7316, I would image that winodows first just to cover your booty, then do a efi install with a gpt table still there. I doubt it is impossible to do a dual boot just the correct way is needed is all.
[00:53] <Beldar> I have no problem with removing windows just concerned.
[00:54] <Grzy7316> Beldar I already have a backup image of the HDD. First thing I do when looking to convert a computer to linux
[00:54] <Beldar> cool good job Grzy7316
[00:54] <Grzy7316> I do work in IT for a living. Backup, Backup and backups of the backups
[00:55] <Grzy7316> Beldar Especially when dealing with databases :P Its why I have 3 dummy servers for testing out new sql scripts and whatnot
[00:55] <Beldar> I'm just an armchair user, but have some skills I clone and back that up to.
[00:55] <usr13> BigTaxi: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list |pastebinit  #Send us resulting URL
[00:59] <BigTaxi> sorry about that
[00:59] <Grzy7316> Beldar I kinda stumbled into working IT. Used to be an armchair user myself back when I worked at bestbuy, then a guy came in and offered me a job because I helped his company get a good deal on hardware. I had to learn as I went
[01:00] <Beldar> Grzy7316, Not surprised, many IT people are hired do to their skills not any certifications per-say, congrats.
[01:00] <Beldar> due*
[01:00] <usr13>  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list |pastebinit  #Send us resulting URL
[01:00] <mdgeorge4153> hello
[01:01] <Grzy7316> Beldar Yeah. Mind you, I didnt neccesarily have all the skills, just good google-fu and a fast learner
[01:01] <mdgeorge4153> I just bought a humble bundle and am having trouble getting many of the binaries to work.  I think the issue is that they are 32 bit binaries, but I am running saucy 64 bit
[01:01] <Beldar> ;)
[01:01] <BigTaxi> IOError error socket error, errno-2 name or service not known
[01:02] <mdgeorge4153> I guess I need to find and install the 32 bit dependencies manually, but I'm not sure how to find out what they are.
[01:02] <mdgeorge4153> any suggestions?
[01:04] <psusi> mdgeorge4153, ldd will tell you what libraries the binary is looking for
[01:04] <BigTaxi> can i just type you what it tells me?
[01:04] <mdgeorge4153> psusi: ldd tells me it's not a dynamically linked executable (although "file" begs to differ)
[01:05] <usr13> BigTaxi: Yep
[01:05] <usr13> BigTaxi: Type away.....
[01:05] <BigTaxi> hahaha oh god i'm sorry i suggested that. what are you looking for
[01:05] <usr13>  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list |pastebinit  #Send us resulting URL
[01:06] <Beldar> Grzy7316, I used to be a chef, and always got a good laugh at the culinary school grads, not the same education as working under a 4 start chef as a mentor.
[01:06] <BigTaxi> that just results in an error
[01:06] <Beldar> star*
[01:06] <usr13> BigTaxi: If pastebinit is not installed, install it:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:06] <BigTaxi> already newest version
[01:07] <usr13>  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list |pastebinit  #Send us resulting URL
[01:07] <psusi> mdgeorge4153, oh bother... well running it should give you an error saying what it can't find
[01:08] <miceiken> Hi guys, I need some help on setting up my mail server. I'm supposed to use postfix, but I've stumbled onto a few problems, have a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6984772/
[01:08] <LinuxPC> I'm looking for a certain person here. Their nickname here is, I think: xnox, something like that. My mind isn't what it used to be.
[01:08] <BigTaxi> unless that line is something else,that's what I'm typing in.
[01:08] <BigTaxi> right above backslash, right?
[01:09] <psusi> miceiken, you apparently already have another mail server running
[01:09] <usr13> BigTaxi: If you type:  "ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list |pastebinit"   (without quotes), it will output to you a URL,  Show us that URL here so we can see.
[01:09] <TJ-> LinuxPC: Dimitri? Try #ubuntu-devel, but he'll probably be asleep
[01:09] <miceiken> how can I find what it is psusi?
[01:09] <BigTaxi> i understand, thats exactly what i'm doing, and i get an error
[01:09] <usr13> BigTaxi: What error do you get?
[01:10] <BigTaxi> IOError [errno socket error] [Errno -2] Name or service not known
[01:10] <LinuxPC> it is ok, I just really wanted to thank him for helping me get my Dual-boot and both new drives up and running with 2 different OS'es.
[01:10] <psusi> miceiken, sudo netstat -l --tcp --program will list what programs are listening on what ports
[01:10] <usr13> BigTaxi: df   #Show us  highest percentage
[01:11] <BigTaxi> 78
[01:11] <usr13> BigTaxi:  Which one is 78%?
[01:11] <BigTaxi> sda5
[01:11] <usr13> BigTaxi: What's the mount point?
[01:12] <usr13> BigTaxi: Is it /  or /home/ or.....?
[01:12] <LinuxPC> I will check back often until I see him again.
[01:12] <usr13> BigTaxi: And 78%  is the highest number in the   Use%  collum?
[01:13] <BigTaxi> yes, it is, and it's mounted in /media/movies
[01:13] <miceiken> psusi, there's these two: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6984795/ but I tried apt-get remove sendmail, they said there were no such packages installer
[01:13] <miceiken> *d
[01:13] <usr13> BigTaxi: ls /etc/issue  #what does that say?
[01:13] <BigTaxi> /etc/issue
[01:14] <Neytiri> hi, how do i make ip tables rules come back after a reboot
[01:14] <usr13> BigTaxi: (What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[01:14] <BigTaxi> 13.04? precise
[01:14] <usr13> BigTaxi: Sorry, I meant     cat /etc/issue
[01:14] <BigTaxi> no such file or directory
[01:16] <usr13> BigTaxi: Ubuntu 13.04 is EOL as of April 25, 2013
[01:16] <BigTaxi> EOL?
[01:16] <usr13> BigTaxi: End of life
[01:17] <usr13> BigTaxi: But, here is what you can do.  Just uninstall those nvidia packages, (you know which ones they are).  Just use dpkg
[01:18] <usr13> BigTaxi: dpkg -r nvidia-what-ever-the-name-is
[01:18] <BigTaxi> ok
[01:18] <usr13> BigTaxi: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list
[01:18] <usr13> BigTaxi: Look at the output  ^^^^ and use names less .list
[01:19] <BigTaxi> uninstall everything and then what?
[01:19] <usr13> BigTaxi: For instance:   sudo dpkg -r nvidia-common
[01:19] <BigTaxi> i follow
[01:19] <usr13> BigTaxi: And then upgrade
[01:19] <BigTaxi> ok
[01:20] <usr13> !eol | BigTaxi
[01:20] <usr13> BigTaxi:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[01:21] <usr13> BigTaxi: In other words, if you uninstall the nvidia packages, it should be fixed so that you can boot into the Graphic User Interface again, and you can repair (upgrade) your EOL system from there
[01:22] <BigTaxi> ok,cool
[01:22] <miceiken> any idea psusi
[01:22] <usr13> BigTaxi: Sorry, I must correct myself,  13.04 has been EOL since  January 27, 2014   (I gave the wrong date earlier.)
[01:22] <BigTaxi> hopefully this all works
[01:22] <BigTaxi> oh,well then I'm not too much of a dinosaur
[01:23] <usr13> BigTaxi: Nothing wrong with being hopeful
[01:23] <usr13> BigTaxi: Can I give you a word of advise?
[01:24] <BigTaxi> of course
[01:24] <usr13> BigTaxi: Well, actually, it is an acronym:
[01:24] <usr13> BigTaxi:     LTS
[01:24] <usr13> !lts | BigTaxi
[01:24] <miceiken> sorry, back
[01:24] <usr13> BigTaxi: (LTS is what I use.)
[01:24] <BigTaxi> well, i did get my GUI back
[01:24] <usr13> BigTaxi: Very good.
[01:25] <BigTaxi> and on the splash it said 12.04
[01:25] <BigTaxi> so I'm ok
[01:25] <usr13> BigTaxi: 12.04?
[01:25] <BigTaxi> yep
[01:25] <BigTaxi> it looks very squished and not as crisp
[01:25] <BigTaxi> i got rid of the prop driver
[01:25] <usr13> BigTaxi: lsb_release -a
[01:26] <usr13> BigTaxi:     ^^^^^^^^    What does that say?
[01:26] <BigTaxi> 12.04.4 LTS
[01:26] <usr13> Very good.
[01:26] <usr13> BigTaxi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:26] <BigTaxi> ok
[01:27] <BigTaxi> it says I'm on a laptop display?! on the pc?!
[01:27] <usr13> BigTaxi: When that finishes, you can re-install the Nvidia proprietary driver (if you want).
[01:27] <usr13> BigTaxi: Oh....
[01:27] <usr13> Never mind.
[01:28] <BigTaxi> at least it's u
[01:28] <BigTaxi> p
[01:29] <Neytiri> hi, how do i make ip tables rules come back after a reboot
[01:29] <joshua> hello
[01:30] <BigTaxi> thanks for the help, usr13
[01:31] <Beldar> Neytiri, This a live enviroment?
[01:32] <Guest15472> so whats up room
[01:34] <ki7rw> i guess i need a good book and/or forum where i can get a better understanding of smtp
[01:35] <psusi> miceiken, dpkg -S `which sendmail`
[01:35] <Grzy7316> Beldar now I am installing vim from the command line, since booting seems to skip grub, so I am going to use vim to  edit the config fiel for it and see if I can pass that nomodeset parameter
[01:36] <viamptor> im running amd a4 4300 APU which driver is best to use i tried the oss version at first and t was very glitchy so swiiched to the proprietary one thats in additional drivers
[01:36] <viamptor> it works but the performance isnt too good
[01:36] <Brightkill> oss?
[01:36] <viamptor> open source
[01:37] <usr13> nydel: You create a firewall script
[01:37] <psusi> viamptor, then you have already answered your own question
[01:37] <usr13> Neytiri: You create a firewall script
[01:37] <usr13> nydel: Sorry, that was for Neytiri
[01:38] <viamptor> well im not sure if the one directly from the vendor ie not in repos and difficult to install is worth it or not i guess is the real question
[01:38] <psusi> viamptor, same thing in the repos
[01:38] <psusi> only easier to install
[01:39] <LinuxPC> does someone know the correct command line to find out what video driver I will need?
[01:40] <usr13> Neytiri: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-a-firewall-using-ip-tables-on-ubuntu-12-04
[01:40] <viamptor> really? i was under the impression amd may have newer /better driver than whats in repos
[01:41] <usr13> LinuxPC: lspci
[01:41] <LinuxPC> usr13: running now
[01:41] <usr13> LinuxPC: lspci |pastebinit   #Send us URL and we will look at it too.
[01:42] <Grzy7316> anybody know why my system skips grub? I need to tell my system to start with the nomodeset parameter
[01:42] <Grzy7316> how would I do this without GRUB? I just go to a command line
[01:43] <Beldar> Grzy7316, This on the install or live?
[01:43] <Grzy7316> Beldar The install
[01:43] <Beldar> Grzy7316, tap the shift key when powering on
[01:44] <Beldar> that brings up grub on a single install on the HD
[01:44] <usr13> LinuxPC: You could also install / use  jockey-gtk
[01:44] <Grzy7316> that did not bring up grub. It went to the splash scvreen then a terminal
[01:45] <Beldar> Grzy7316, Use the shift as if you were going to the bios power on and hold it down
[01:46] <Beldar> power on then hold it down is what I mean
[01:46] <LinuxPC> I'm still learning how to do those types of things, but i will tell you that it is a Raedon Xpress 200 Series
[01:46] <viamptor> is there a ppa for catalyst/drivers ?
[01:46] <Grzy7316> Beldar and when I try to edit my /etc/default/grub, I get a file that appears to be nothing but a bunch of ~
[01:46] <Grzy7316> Beldar When I try to hold shift the machine powers off before doing anything
[01:47] <LinuxPC> usr13: What is jockey-gtk?
[01:47] <Beldar> Grzy7316, Hmm, the default grub file probably needs you to be not logged in but far enough in the boot, like from a tty, not sure on powering off with using the shift.
[01:48] <usr13> Grzy7316: what are you trying to edit it with?
[01:48] <Grzy7316> opened it with vim
[01:48] <Grzy7316> Beldar openmed it with vim
[01:48] <Beldar> Grzy7316, I suspect if you still have a got table, you have to have a efi boot partition didi you make one?
[01:48] <Beldar> gpt*
[01:49] <usr13> LinuxPC: "Jockey provides a user interface for configuring third-party drivers, such as the Nvidia and ATI fglrx X.org and various Wireless LAN kernel modules."
[01:49] <Grzy7316> Beldar it boots fine, I have a terminal its just skipping past GRUB somehow
[01:49] <LinuxPC> cool
[01:49] <usr13> Grzy7316: file /etc/default/grub
[01:49] <LinuxPC> usr13: I'm going to try that one.
[01:50] <Beldar> Grzy7316, I only have a cursory knowledge of uefi and gpt though, I suspect thatb is part of the scenario, I know that does not help though.
[01:50] <Grzy7316> usr13 it says ascii text
[01:52] <Neytiri> thanks usr13
[01:53] <Grzy7316> oddly enough when I type grub into the terminal, it says it is not installed, but when I try to apt-get grub it says it will be removed
[01:54] <LinuxPC> usr13: I already had the program, I just didn't know it. I am using it now.
[01:54] <Grzy7316> the one on my machine is currently grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-adm64-signed grub2common
[01:55] <basketball> bazhang,  do you know about ubuntu touch
[01:58] <Bobby_> Hi
[01:58] <Bobby_> I'm looking for some assistance with regards to using HDMI through the computer to the TV for built in audio
[01:59] <Bobby_> Currently its not working
[01:59] <Bobby_> Is there anyone that could render me some assistance?
[01:59] <basketball> !ask
[02:00] <teward> Bobby_, just ask your question to the channel in general
[02:00] <basketball> !ask > Bobby_
[02:00] <teward> basketball, no need to call it twice
[02:00] <basketball> teward,  did the wrong thing first
[02:00] <Bobby_> Sorry
[02:01] <basketball> Bobby_,  its all good
[02:01] <basketball> !ask > basketball
[02:01] <LinuxPC> Bobby: If yours is anything like mine was, I had to get an audio cable that would connect from the pc to the tv.
[02:01] <Bobby_> But the audio point on the tele is audio out only.
[02:02] <Bobby_> If I dare say it, when I had a windows machine, the audio came through the HDMI straight away. I'm relatively new to Linux, is there not a driver to correct this feature?
[02:02] <basketball> Bobby_,  where did you type your question
[02:02] <LinuxPC> Bobby: does your tv have component plugs on the  back?
[02:02] <basketball> LinuxPC,  what is her question
[02:03] <Grzy7316> so i finally got the bloody grub file open in vim, how would I add a # to comment out a line?
[02:03] <Bobby_> My question is - I have my Ubuntu computer connected to my TV, via HDMI. Currently no audio runs through it. I would like some help to correct this issue
[02:03] <Bobby_> And I am a he.
[02:03] <LinuxPC> Bobby: meaning red, pink, green, blue?
[02:03] <Bobby_> Bobbie - is the female spelling
[02:03] <basketball> sorry Bobby_
[02:03] <psusi> Bobby_, HDMI doesn't have audio
[02:03] <basketball> Grzy7316,  just type the #?
[02:03] <psusi> err, wait... nevermind, that's DVI
[02:03] <basketball> psusi,  yes it does
[02:04] <Bobby_> There's green blue red
[02:04] <psusi> too many acronyms ;)
[02:04] <Bobby_> No worries basketball we live and learn :)
[02:05] <basketball> Bobby_,  what version os
[02:05] <Bobby_> 13.10 basketball
[02:05] <LinuxPC> may sound funny to you, but get a cord that plugs toyou pc and goes to those colored switches on your tv and then re-boot the pc.
[02:05] <LinuxPC> to your pc
[02:05] <Bobby_> I've seen that before. Component to 3.5mm
[02:06] <basketball> Bobby_,  if you are using an hdmi cable plug it into the hdmi spot?
[02:06] <LinuxPC> yep, that is what i had to do, but now it works great
[02:06] <Bobby_> basketball I'm connected now. HDMI lead to tele and computer
[02:07] <basketball> Bobby_,  is it working
[02:07] <Bobby_> Visual yes. Not audio
[02:07] <basketball> Bobby_,  install the proprietary drivers for the graphics card on pc
[02:07] <Bobby_> Ah
[02:08] <Bobby_> Okay - are there specifically ones for Linux? Or are drivers for one, drivers for all? Forgive my stupidity
[02:08] <Akiva-Mobile> does ubuntu intend on doing a unity 9?
[02:08] <Akiva-Mobile> or is unity 8 basically here for quite awhile?
[02:08] <puish> hope not
[02:09] <LinuxPC> it is so much better playing my online games on 42 inches of screen now.
[02:09] <Bobby_> basketball Okay - are there specifically ones for Linux? Or are drivers for one, drivers for all? Forgive my stupidity
[02:11] <disss> hello! excuse me, i want install the alpha 2 of ubuntu 14.04 LTS, but i don't know if the distro will update automatic or when the stable ubuntu 14.04 come i must update manual? sry for my english!!!
[02:11] <basketball> Bobby_,  i am going off of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1662962
[02:12] <basketball> !14.04 | disss
[02:13] <rawr1> Bobby_, What graphics card is the hdmi cable connected to?
[02:13] <CaioDosAnjos> Is this IRC channel specifically for Ubuntu/Unity desktop or is the server version also supported?
[02:14] <Beldar> CaioDosAnjos, This is ubuntu support, some server stuff is covered here, but there is #ubuntu-server if needed.
[02:14] <basketball> Beldar,  i was just going to say that
[02:14] <CaioDosAnjos> Beldar, thanks
[02:15] <disss> yes i know when the release ubuntu 14.04, but i only ask if the alpha with update automatic to the stable version when the release come to 20th
[02:15] <disss> thanks
[02:15] <Beldar> !14.04 | disss
[02:16] <Beldar> disss, Yes upgrades make it the same as the release
[02:16] <basketball> Beldar,  i already sent that to disss
[02:16] <LinuxPC> Anyone: When 12.04 LTS reaches its end, Do you have stat completely over OR can you just upgrade to the next one that comes out??
[02:16] <LinuxPC> my typing errors....jeesh.
[02:16] <Beldar> LinuxPC, It has 5 years support, yhou can upgrade to another lts in that time scenario
[02:17] <psusi> LinuxPC, you can upgrade to the next LTS
[02:17] <_bluerabbit> LinuxPC you can upgrade
[02:17] <LinuxPC> cool. that works for me.
[02:19] <LinuxPC> I am learning a lot from the people on here and at the other channel #ubuntu-devel. I am somewhat of a newbie to linux. but am also an "old-school" PC repair tech from back in the 80's.
[02:19] <basketball> Beldar,  why is simple scanner saying no scanners i added the printer
[02:19]  * psusi is reminded of USRobotics modems for some reason
[02:19] <Beldar> LinuxPC, mmm the 80's the mullet ruled
[02:19] <LinuxPC> I have used many different types of OS'es
[02:20] <LinuxPC> haha
[02:20] <Beldar> ;)
[02:20] <LinuxPC> how do you get those emoticons?
[02:20] <psusi> it's just a semicolon and close parenthesis
[02:20] <Guest65919> could somebody send me a file?
[02:20] <wafflejock__> yeah emoticons are dependent on the client usually
[02:20] <LinuxPC> :)
[02:21] <LinuxPC> ok that worked
[02:21] <psusi> I guess you are using a fancy client that substitutes an emoticon
[02:21] <LinuxPC> chatzilla
[02:21] <psusi> those of us who have used IRC since the 90s just have our brains programmed to reconize them ;)
[02:21] <Beldar> what brains I have left
[02:21] <wafflejock__> psusi: heh built in emoticon interpreter
[02:22] <LinuxPC> Yeah, I still use the "ALT" commands in DOS to get these small pics
[02:22] <edu_nieto_medina> i need to install ubuntu along my pre-installed windows 8...
[02:22] <edu_nieto_medina> is there anyone who knowa the trick
[02:22] <wafflejock__> edu_nieto_medina: you want to dual boot
[02:22] <edu_nieto_medina> yes
[02:23] <wafflejock__> edu_nieto_medina: no real trick to it just download and burn the install CD
[02:23] <Beldar> !uefi | edu_nieto_medina patience is the trick
[02:23] <wafflejock__> edu_nieto_medina: some people have had the UEFI problems ^ Beldar points out here
[02:23] <psusi> wafflejock__, there is no install cd anymore... have to use dvd or usb flash drive
[02:23] <wafflejock__> psusi: ah true used to saying install CD
[02:23] <wafflejock__> DVD
[02:23] <psusi> yea
[02:23] <wafflejock__> you can use the minimal install CD
[02:24] <wafflejock__> but not great for doin the full blown desktop and not really easy
[02:24]  * psusi misses the alternate installer
[02:24] <wafflejock__> used it to get xubuntu setup on some real old hardware though
[02:25] <edu_nieto_medina> Beldar ive tried to install both in uefi..
[02:25] <basketball> Beldar,  why is simple scanner saying no scanners i added the printer
[02:25] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, Here is a thread on uefi that considers different vendor versions, can be helpful. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[02:26] <edu_nieto_medina> but  the problem is that my ubuntu 13.10 doesnt  see my windows 8 already installed
[02:26] <LinuxPC> I have found you guys to be the best help around when someone is learning the Linux OS. I alaways come here if I have problems. And I always het the help I need to get my pc on the right track.
[02:26] <wafflejock__> hmm
[02:26] <wafflejock__> LinuxPC: yeah there are quite a few great helpers around in here
[02:28] <LinuxPC> wafflejock: Yeah, these guys and gals know how to do almost anything with Linux and thank god too, Cause I would be lost without them.
[02:28] <edu_nieto_medina> ive read all thouse links provided..
[02:28] <edu_nieto_medina> i understand the differnece btw bios and uefi
[02:29] <wafflejock__> LinuxPC: for sure, any given part of Linux isn't usually too complicated but it's a lot to learn overall and since there's always new stuff coming out always more to learn
[02:29] <edu_nieto_medina> but when i try to install ubuntu its when i get stuck...
[02:30] <psusi> define "get stuck"
[02:30] <wafflejock__> edu_nieto_medina: so Ubuntu just sees this as an empty disk or does it see the partition but not windows?
[02:30] <edu_nieto_medina> i dont see the tipical option that says "install ubuntu alongside windows"
[02:30] <LinuxPC> As before, I said, after 20 plus years of computer knowledge, You will always have more to learn. Computer learning is a Lifetime carrer.
[02:30] <LinuxPC> career
[02:30] <edu_nieto_medina> yes!! ubundu sees a total free space of 750 GB
[02:31] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, You have not read those links, it clearly states to resize windows from it first leaving a unallocated space.
[02:31] <edu_nieto_medina> i did that
[02:31] <edu_nieto_medina> i shrunk
[02:31] <edu_nieto_medina> 150gb
[02:31] <edu_nieto_medina> for ubuntu
[02:32] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, pastebin sudo parted -l
[02:33] <edu_nieto_medina> hold on ill start my ubuntu live
[02:34] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, Have you backed up windows and made a recovery disc?
[02:34] <edu_nieto_medina> yes
[02:34] <Beldar> cool
[02:38] <LinuxPC> I have noticed that in the terminal when you use the "get-apt" command, it is faster than using the software center to get the applications you want. Anyone know why?
[02:39] <edu_nieto_medina> Model: ATA VBOX HARDDISK (scsi)
[02:39] <edu_nieto_medina> Disk /dev/sda: 21.7GB
[02:39] <edu_nieto_medina> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[02:39] <edu_nieto_medina> Partition Table: msdos
[02:39] <edu_nieto_medina> Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system     Flags
[02:39] <edu_nieto_medina>  1      1049kB  20.6GB  20.6GB  primary   ext4            boot
[02:39] <edu_nieto_medina>  2      20.6GB  21.7GB  1072MB  extended
[02:39] <edu_nieto_medina>  5      20.6GB  21.7GB  1072MB  logical   linux-swap(v1)
[02:39] <usr13> edu_nieto_medina: You call that pastebin?
[02:39] <edu_nieto_medina> whats a pastebin?
[02:40] <usr13> !pastebin | edu_nieto_medina
[02:40] <usr13> !pastebinit | edu_nieto_medina
[02:40] <DF3D2> s
[02:40] <LinuxPC> usr13: how do you use "pasteBin"???
[02:40] <LinuxPC> nevermind
[02:41] <wafflejock__> LinuxPC: yeah just go to the site there's tools to directly pastebin too think it's called patebinit
[02:41] <LinuxPC> yeah, found it.
[02:41] <wafflejock__> oh heh didn't see usr13 had dropped that too
[02:42] <edu_nieto_medina> !pastebinit
[02:42] <usr13> http://www.moleberry.com/man/p/pastebinit.1.html
[02:42] <rcw2> i went into muon, and searched for chromium, and it said 'upgradable'.  i figured the OS was doing this automatically for something like chromium.
[02:42] <edu_nieto_medina> i use windows
[02:42] <rcw2> why is this?
[02:42] <wafflejock__> edu_nieto_medina: you can just go to the site and paste into the box there then
[02:42] <LinuxPC> Who-is ubottu?
[02:43] <usr13> !ubottu | LinuxPC
[02:43] <wafflejock__> LinuxPC: just an IRC bot program
[02:43] <wafflejock__> LinuxPC: helps for stuff that gets asked a lot and you can directly message it to get info
[02:43] <LinuxPC> okay dokay. Seen that right after I posted it.
[02:44] <usr13> funny how that works....
[02:44] <LinuxPC> yep it is
[02:45] <LinuxPC> only kind of robot i have ever used was one that was built to run side-by-side connected to a PC.
[02:45] <LinuxPC> Remember: "OLD SCHOOL"
[02:46] <LinuxPC> that's me
[02:47] <wafflejock__> LinuxPC: you may want to check out the ubuntu-offtopic channel for people to just chat with since this room is reserved for support stuff... I personally don't care but you may get some of the admins upset eventually
[02:47] <wafflejock__> !ot > LinuxPC
[02:48] <edu_nieto_medina> i think i did pastebin sucessfully?
[02:49] <edu_nieto_medina> can you see?
[02:49] <wabs> edu_nieto_medina: What is the link?
[02:49] <edu_nieto_medina> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6985018/
[02:49] <edu_nieto_medina> never donde that sorry
[02:50] <edu_nieto_medina> not sure what am doing
[02:50] <wabs> edu_nieto_medina: You got it man.  Its up there :P
[02:50] <edu_nieto_medina> cool!!
[02:51] <wafflejock__> edu_nieto_medina: yeah really useful when your helping or getting help with computer stuff... if you do programming jsfiddle.net or plnkr.co are good for showing web dev stuff
[02:52] <edu_nieto_medina> cool!!
[02:52] <edu_nieto_medina> can you see whats wrong in my partition in there?
[02:53] <wafflejock__> edu_nieto_medina: you will probably have better luck working with Beldar or others here since I'm not personally familiar with the UEFI setup, it looks like you have the partitions setup okay to me though
[02:54] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, It looks like you have ubuntu on sda is this a SSD?
[02:54] <jephir> Anyone know why the installer won't let me continue if I enter Montreal as my city? http://i.stack.imgur.com/x4sjx.png
[02:54] <Guest92028> ubuntu phone
[02:55] <Guest92028> ubuntu phone irc network
[02:55] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, That command is only showing one HD 21.7 gigis in size.
[02:55] <xangua> !touch | Guest92028
[02:55] <Beldar> gigs*
[02:56] <DF3D2> Hi I have a machine with nvidia card / nvidia drivers in it, I want to remove the nvidia drivers and install an AMD card. Whats the best way to remove all traces of nvidia ?
[02:56] <Beldar> jephir, Try just clicking in that general area Montreal may not be the reference
[02:56] <edu_nieto_medina> what that does mean Beldar
[02:57] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, I asked two questions, however I think your asking about the second one the single HD. It means the second HD is not showing if you have one.
[02:58] <edu_nieto_medina> Beldar i have only one hard drive of 750 GB
[02:59] <jephir> Beldar, it seems that if I click anywhere within Quebec Canada, the button stays grayed out. I can click on anywhere else and the button becomes enabled. Is ubuntu disabled in Quebec?
[02:59] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, Really and you ran sudo parted -l on the?
[02:59] <edu_nieto_medina> Beldar whats the other rquestion
[03:00] <edu_nieto_medina> yes... but on my virtual box ubuntu 12.04
[03:00] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, edu_nieto_medina, It looks like you have ubuntu on sda is this a SSD? was the first question, or is this the usb?
[03:02] <edu_nieto_medina> i havent install ubuntu yet... i have only windows 8 running on this laptop..
[03:03] <DF3D2> Hi I have a machine with nvidia card / nvidia drivers in it, I want to remove the nvidia drivers and install an AMD card. Whats the best way to remove all traces of nvidia ? I can't seem to find what package is providing the drivers
[03:03] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, Ah, we need that run on a live or on a install on the HD not the virtual. I'm a little confused as to why you would run that command from a virtual in relation to what I assume is a full dual boot install on the HD.
[03:03] <edu_nieto_medina> and i have virtual box where i run ubuntu 12.04 where i just enter that commad
[03:06] <edu_nieto_medina> ill get another laptop then.. so i can try..
[03:06] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, Uefi is not an area that I'm real up on, my help here was to confirm with that command what the HD looks like, since as of now it looks fully unallocated on ubuntu.
[03:07] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, Another laptop, the command is for being run on the computer your trying to install on, see last post by me.
[03:07] <edu_nieto_medina> yes.. i get it...
[03:07] <Grzy7316> so I managed to get some graphicl environment to appear, as I now have a KDE login screen, but when I try to login with my password the screen flashes black for a few seconds, then goes back to the login screen asking for my password. Any idea what could be causing this?
[03:07] <edu_nieto_medina> another laptop to run my mirc.
[03:08] <Grzy7316> to get a graphical environment, I installed the fglrx package
[03:08] <edu_nieto_medina> so i cant try with you..
[03:08] <edu_nieto_medina> thanks Beldar
[03:08] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, Cool, usually when you have resized windows and left a unallocated in a uefi you should be able to install to that space. However it may be a manual install using the something other option, just a guess here.
[03:09] <edu_nieto_medina> i try this tomorrow im running out of time now
[03:09] <edu_nieto_medina> yes... even when i see in windows 150 gb unallocated...
[03:10] <edu_nieto_medina> when i run ubuntu 13.10 and choose "somethingelse"
[03:10] <edu_nieto_medina> ubuntu only sees 750 GB unallocated
[03:10] <edu_nieto_medina> so i assume it will ersase everything
[03:11] <quileman> hola
[03:11] <quileman> que tal
[03:11] <Grzy7316> I can log in in command line, and I can get to the login screen. I have no idea what is going on
[03:11] <Beldar> !es | quileman
[03:12] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, Yeah, not sure here, I would think it would show correct in the manual area,
[03:12] <quileman> alguien habla español
[03:12] <quileman> yo sou de chile
[03:12] <Beldar> quileman, This is an english channel.
[03:12] <Grzy7316> Beldar so I was able to get a graphical login screen by using the proprietart driver, but it wont let me get past the login screen. Any ideas?
[03:12] <Beldar> Grzy7316, Not sure really.
[03:13] <Grzy7316> its very bizarre
[03:13] <co-XZist> is there a squashfs channel ?
[03:16] <ian> hey yall
[03:16] <ian> need some help
[03:17] <Guest15840> test
[03:17] <Beldar> Guest15840, we see you state the issue to the channel.
[03:17] <Guest15840> how do i reverse this https://fixubuntu.com/
[03:17] <Guest15840> cant use web search in unity anymore such as wiki search etc
[03:18] <Bray90820> How would i use rm to remove a file called -r
[03:18] <Beldar> Guest15840, Not buying into fud and running commands not needed would help.
[03:18] <Bray90820> If i actually do rm -r it thinks it's an option
[03:18] <YourBestFriend> rm "-r"
[03:18] <co-XZist> Bray90820: I had the same issue..ever figured it out tho
[03:19] <YourBestFriend> wait
[03:19] <YourBestFriend> rm - "-r" maybe
[03:19] <co-XZist> Ijust deleted it in graphic mode
[03:19] <Bray90820> co-XZist: i am using ssh so that's not an option for me
[03:19] <wabs> Guest15840: DId you turn off web search in the security and privacy?
[03:19] <Grzy7316> i DONT WANT TO HAVE TO USE WINDOWS ON THIS COMPUTER :(
[03:19] <Grzy7316> sorry for caps
[03:20] <Bray90820> YourBestFriend: nether of those worked
[03:20] <co-XZist> -r in quotes doesnt work either
[03:20] <Guest15840> wabs: nope its on
[03:20] <Bray90820> co-XZist: that is correct
[03:21] <YourBestFriend> sorry, I meant --
[03:21] <YourBestFriend> rm -- -r
[03:21] <YourBestFriend> Bray90820: is it working now?
[03:23] <Guest15840> Beldar: any hindsight about this?
[03:23] <Bray90820> YourBestFriend: thank you that worked
[03:23] <YourBestFriend> np
[03:26] <co-XZist> YourBestFriend: I tried it.. doesnt work. I get "cannot remove '-r': is a directory "
[03:26] <co-XZist> :(
[03:26] <YourBestFriend> is -r a directory or a file?
[03:26] <co-XZist> directory
[03:26] <YourBestFriend> then it's
[03:26] <YourBestFriend> rm -r -- -r
[03:26] <co-XZist> oohh
[03:27] <co-XZist> hold on I'll try
[03:27] <co-XZist> :O
[03:27] <co-XZist> it worked
[03:27] <co-XZist> thanks mayn :D
[03:27] <YourBestFriend> Guest15840: you'll have multiple things to check
[03:27] <dmarr> https://gist.github.com/marr/92d066350845a046d990 <-- when i try to sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:28] <YourBestFriend> Guest15840: first, can you install this? sudo apt-get install unity-lens-shopping
[03:29] <YourBestFriend> actually, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:29] <Guest15840> 13.10
[03:29] <YourBestFriend> then hold on
[03:29] <YourBestFriend> let me check something
[03:30] <Guest15840> k thx and yes i have it
[03:30] <YourBestFriend> try this:
[03:30] <YourBestFriend> gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes "[]"
[03:32] <YourBestFriend> next: "sudo nano /etc/hosts" and delete the lines which contain "ubuntu.com"
[03:34] <Beldar> YourBestFriend, Try to preface answer to others with their nicks. ;)
[03:34] <YourBestFriend> ok
[03:34] <Guest15840> beldar: i didnt missed him
[03:34] <Guest15840> Cc
[03:36] <LinuxPC> ok folks...In Ubuntu 12.04 on my wifes laptop...Her update manager says that it has 18 updates and when I click it to install the updates. A window opens that says: "Requires installation of untrusted packages"...What do I need to do, so that it will let me update?
[03:37] <Guest15840> yourbestfriend: done
[03:37] <Guest15840> yeah it was the proxy
[03:37] <Guest15840> thx
[03:38] <LinuxPC> Nevermind...I forgot to update the cache first. It is working now.
[03:38] <LinuxPC> thanks anyway.
[03:39] <Gus> Good Evening, I have a question about the Ubuntu after-installation, can anyone help?
[03:40] <dmarr> debug1: Entering interactive session.
[03:40] <dmarr> Write failed: Broken pipe
[03:40] <dmarr> right after authenticating with ssh -v i getthis error ^
[03:40] <jeff_> hello
[03:41] <Gus> I just installed Ubuntu and I have windows, I got a Failed error on the end of the ubuntu install and when i boot, it goes straight to windows 7 instead of the bootloader to let me choose, how can i fix this?
[03:41] <Beldar> Gus, State the issue to the channel for help.
[03:41] <Gus> thanks Beldar
[03:41] <Gus> is there a windows bootloader that i can select which OS to run? or is there a Linux one?
[03:41] <Beldar> Gus, This a install on a partition not a wubi?
[03:42] <Gus> yes, install, now I have Windows on Drive C: and Ubuntu on drive F:
[03:43] <Beldar> Gus, Hmm drive F a linux ext4 should not show in windows does it?
[03:43] <Gus> no, it does not show in windows!!
[03:43] <Beldar> Gus, Can you boot the live install cd/usb so we can run a few things?
[03:44] <Nautilus> i'm setting up a CA for SSL, and wonder if I should do that as root?
[03:44] <Gus> yes, but i will be disconnected from this chat and from windows, I am on windows right now
[03:44] <Grzy7316> so now its more bizarre
[03:44] <Gus> the only problem is that when i installed and it was going to install the grub (i believe)
[03:44] <Grzy7316> apparantly I can start a kde session as a guest. but not as myself
[03:45] <Beldar> Gus, You need to be on the live to get to more info so we can help is all.
[03:45] <Gus> it made me choose where to install the bootloader and I tried all the options and none worked
[03:45] <Beldar> Gus, Has this computer ever had W8 on it?
[03:45] <Gus> no
[03:46] <Gus> looks all I need Beldar is a bootloader for windows and linux
[03:46] <Beldar> Gus, If a msdos which is what has been used until W8 came out, the sdX would be where grub went X is the HD letter, no partitions
[03:47] <Beldar> Gus, grub the linux bootloader is that.
[03:47] <Gus> I tried
[03:47] <Gus> can i download GRUB on my windows and install it?
[03:47] <Beldar> Gus, well without you on the live cd/usb we are dead in the water is all.
[03:48] <Beldar> Gus, no you cannot install grub from windows
[03:48] <Gus> okay, so if i boot from the live dvd, what option i select, install or try ubuntu?
[03:49] <Beldar> Gus, You might just try installing again, an error and no grub menu suggests problems that may be fixable, but easier fixed with a good install.
[03:50] <Gus> Beldar, I got something called Boot repair, but no sucess, is it me? or should i try again, i had to write some lines on terminal but the terminal never started on boot-repair!!
[03:50] <Beldar> Gus, did you run bootrepair, if you did the bootinfo summary url is gold, post it.
[03:51] <Gus> okay thanks a lot and c-ya soon Beldar, have a good night!!
[03:51] <Gus> Be safe all
[03:51] <Gus> good night
[03:51] <Beldar> Gus, you to.
[03:55] <SailorR> how can I see the progress of my download
[03:55] <SailorR> in ubuntu
[03:56] <kikjezrous> ubuntu doesn't download stuff.
[03:56] <kikjezrous> are you talking about firefox, chrominum, software center, etc?
[03:56] <SailorR> firefo
[03:56] <kikjezrous> ^ which one
[03:56] <SailorR> x
[03:56] <kikjezrous> oh,
[03:56] <SailorR> im downloading an iso image
[03:56] <kikjezrous> about:downloads
[03:57] <kikjezrous> or, you know, the little download arrow on the toolbar.
[03:57] <kikjezrous> which version of firefox are you running?
[03:57] <SailorR> thx
[03:57] <SailorR> no idea
[03:57] <SailorR> but i found it
[03:58] <kikjezrous> hehe, good work
[03:59] <Nautilus> can anyone tell me what causes this?   "mkdir: cannot create directory `ABC': Read-only file system"  I'm logged in as root, though it's been 2 months since I logged in (VPS)
[04:01] <DaveVE3> can you make a directory in a terminl using command line?
[04:02] <Nautilus> mkdir
[04:02] <Nautilus> oh me? That's what I'm doing
[04:03] <Nautilus> I'm going to try rebooting the VPS
[04:05] <kikjezrous> my kernel keeps randomly panicking; it seems graphically related based on the difficulty i had trying to find my drivers and the frequent graphical glitches i get moments before the kernel restarts.  additionally, xorg has always been a resource hog, but this has been the case on every machine i've built.  it's getting worse, with panics happening at least once a day. thoughts?
[04:07] <dmarr> seems i have to disable sftp for ssh to work- otherwise get bad chroot on my homedir
[04:10] <Nautilus> daveve3: ah, the disk had some kind of error, I had to hit F at boot time to fix it. Is there a way I can find out if anything is now messed up?
[04:11] <Nautilus> should I be making my SSL CA and certs from root or a regular user?
[04:18] <pvl1> i have this weird issue where unmute on my keyboard doesnt work. i know the problem is in part that i have multiple outputs for my surround sound
[04:18] <kikjezrous> get indicator-sound-switcher
[04:18] <kikjezrous> the reason why is the sound is being pumped though something that the volume isn't controlling.
[04:19] <kikjezrous> you could change it though the gnome control panel, but that's slow and annoying.
[04:19] <kikjezrous> the program i just listed will do it, but it sits in the dash, so quicker access.
[04:19] <kikjezrous> open a terminal and type in sudo apt-get install indicator-sound-switcher
[04:19] <kikjezrous> you may have to restart unity, i'm not sure.
[04:20] <kikjezrous> *or gnome or whatever.
[04:20] <pvl1> kikjezrous: the thing is that im on lubuntu, and furthermore i only see indicator-sound
[04:20] <kikjezrous> ooooh.
[04:20] <pvl1> think itll work anyway?
[04:21] <kikjezrous> *shrugs* worth a try
[04:21] <pvl1> perhaps i should head over to #lubuntu at some point
[04:21] <pvl1> well ill let you know in a minute
[04:22] <pvl1> the volume works fine, just muting
[04:22] <Diplomatico> Hello, since my upgrade to 13.10, the keyboard some key shortcuts and key layout changed, how do I set it back to normal?
[04:22] <pvl1> idk if the play pause works tho
[04:22] <Kalapanit^> hello how can i set the reverse dns of my vps ip ? can anyone teach me?
[04:22] <kikjezrous> pvl1:  yeah, head over there.  i'm just now getting into lubuntu.
[04:22] <Diplomatico> I've already tried going to keyboard on system settinges.
[04:24] <dmarr> cant get network up in a vagrant instance of phusion open ubuntu
[04:28] <pvl1> kikjezrous: i think its done by editing  ~/.config/openbox$ gedit lubuntu-rc.xml
[04:30] <Lord-Ragnarock> Howdy! :)
[04:31] <Lord-Ragnarock> Anybody here familiar with ibus and xmodmap?
[04:31] <kikjezrous> pvl1: I'll keep that for future reference, thanks.
[04:32] <dmarr> root@ubuntu-12:/home/vagrant# sudo service networking start
[04:32] <dmarr> networking stop/waiting
[04:32] <pvl1> kikjezrous: no prob. however the entire issue is that my channels seem to be joined, rather than seperate muting one mutes all. ill dig into this
[04:34] <kikjezrous> pvl1:  interesting, i've never had that happen to me before.  don't ubuntu and lubuntu share pulseaudio, or is that one of the changed defs?
[04:35] <pvl1> kikjezrous: i think theyre ultimately the same except for WM, er DM. so you are correct in that
[04:36] <kikjezrous> how deep does the act of muting the speakers go; is it os level, application level, or hardware/nearly hardware level?
[04:40] <pvl1> methinks that its userspace access to kernelspace via module
[04:40] <Lord-Ragnarock> I guess I might just ask away .__.;; I know how to use xmodmap to make my Caps key  (keycode 66) input F13, and have set ibus to change the keyboard layout upon receiving F13 input. But it seems every time I switch the layout my xmodmap command reverts, and Caps Lock goes back to the state I set it to (inactive/doesn't light up) Does anyone have a clue to fix this? :D
[04:41] <Lord-Ragnarock> *More like work around it. I phrase things oddly.
[04:46] <mogaj> How to open port 80 only for name based virtual hosts?
[04:46] <kikjezrous> Lord-Ragnarock: do you have an idea of how to do that through the terminal?
[04:47] <Lord-Ragnarock> Kinda. xmodmap -e 'keycode 66 = F13' is what I've been running at the moment to test things out.
[04:48] <kikjezrous> if that works well, just pull up startup programs and run that command.
[04:48] <Diplomatico> Hello, I press alt + `  and it shows the window switcher instead of typing this symbol : ⅼ
[04:49] <kikjezrous> however, i wouldn't know what to do when the layout changes without a reboot.
[04:49] <kikjezrous> Diplomatico: that's a keyboard shortcut.
[04:49] <Diplomatico> How do I change it??
[04:49] <kikjezrous> gimme a sec, i'm going to google that.
[04:49] <Diplomatico> I hvent seen it on settings
[04:49] <Diplomatico> ok
[04:49] <Lord-Ragnarock> Well, it does work, but only once. I switch layouts, Caps goes back to null state, and I have to re-type the command :(
[04:50] <Bray90820> How would i create a file that would be loaded when the finger command is entered
[04:51] <kikjezrous> Lord-Ragnarock: yeah, i know that feeling.  i've got to run some brscan stuff if i want to scan every time after my network resets, which is often.
[04:51] <Lord-Ragnarock> Ah o.o
[04:51] <kikjezrous> Diplomatico: what version/distro of ubuntu are you running?
[04:51] <Diplomatico> 13.10
[04:51] <kikjezrous> 'cause you should just be able to type 'keyboard shortcuts' into the dash...
[04:52] <kikjezrous> ...and find your options?
[04:52] <pvl1> methinks that its userspace access to kernelspace via module
[04:52] <pvl1> kikjezrous: ^
[04:52] <Diplomatico> I can't find that shortcut.
[04:52] <Lord-Ragnarock> I might try to put this into a .xmodmap file that runs at startup. Not confident it'll be different tho xD
[04:52] <kikjezrous> pvl1: okay.
[04:52] <kikjezrous> Diplomatico: huh.
[04:52] <Diplomatico> Yeah.
[04:53] <Lord-Ragnarock> huh... I found a .xinputrc in my home folder. Anyone know the function of that?
[04:54] <kikjezrous> Diplomatico: just to satiate my doubt about your situation, go to system setting for me, no?
[04:54] <kikjezrous> *settings
[04:54] <leugim> hello ragnarok
[04:54] <Diplomatico> I'm already there...
[04:54] <leugim> i'm ragnar lothbrok
[04:54] <kikjezrous> go to keyboard. :P
[04:54] <pvl1> reboot
[04:55] <Diplomatico> Done.
[04:55] <kikjezrous> and is there not a 'Shortcuts' tab?
[04:55] <Diplomatico> Yes.
[04:55] <Diplomatico> But I can't find the shortcut I want to get rif of.
[04:55] <Andres123> Hi, I need help with my Nvidia drivers!
[04:55] <kikjezrous> aaaaah.
[04:55] <Diplomatico> rid
[04:58] <kikjezrous> yeah, the normal panel isn't going to work for that.
[04:58] <Diplomatico> To me?
[04:58] <Diplomatico> Kikjezrous?
[04:59] <kikjezrous> Diplomatico: yeah, let me keep playing around on my rig.
[04:59] <kikjezrous> brb
[04:59] <Diplomatico> Alright.Just try if you have the same results as me typing alt + `
[05:00] <Diplomatico> You know, the key just below the ESC
[05:00] <kikjezrous> yeah, i know - i use the shortcut regularly.
[05:00] <Diplomatico> The characters on that key are ~ and `
[05:00] <Diplomatico> I just want to type the I
[05:01] <Diplomatico> You know the vertical slash
[05:01] <kikjezrous> |?
[05:01] <kikjezrous> the pipe?
[05:01] <Diplomatico> That ones
[05:01] <Diplomatico> hahaha
[05:01] <kikjezrous> isn't that above the forward slash?
[05:01] <kikjezrous> \|
[05:01] <Diplomatico> Not working for me...
[05:02] <kikjezrous> bizarre.
[05:02] <kikjezrous> what keyboard config are you using?
[05:02] <Diplomatico> Yes, and before the upgrade this didn't happen.
[05:02] <Diplomatico> UK english.
[05:02] <kikjezrous> you and Lord-Ragnarock should get together, you'll have fun.
[05:02] <Lord-Ragnarock> Heh? o.o
[05:03] <kikjezrous> damn, my left ctrl key is falling off.
[05:04] <Diplomatico> You are losing control...
[05:04] <Diplomatico> (expecting spontaneous laughter)
[05:04] <Lord-Ragnarock> My "End" key isn't much better :)
[05:05] <kikjezrous> :D
[05:05] <kikjezrous>  /r/dadjokes
[05:05] <kikjezrous> Diplomatico: bad news.
[05:05] <Lord-Ragnarock> Had this machine since my 16th birthday in 2009 xD
[05:05] <Diplomatico> What???
[05:05] <kikjezrous> looks like this is a confirmed bug in 13.04-10, number 874734.
[05:05] <Diplomatico> What???
[05:05] <kikjezrous> recently reopened after being fixed for 11.10
[05:05] <Diplomatico> Give me the link!
[05:05] <Diplomatico> Please.
[05:06] <kikjezrous> sorry about that, i'll keep looking for workarounds.
[05:06] <kikjezrous> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/874734
[05:06] <Diplomatico> You always have the character map, but it's a pain.
[05:07] <kikjezrous> yeah.
[05:07] <Diplomatico> So at least I know it's a unity issue.
[05:07] <kikjezrous> if it's just a normal pipe character, couldn't you just mess around with our keyboard mapping?
[05:07] <kikjezrous> *you
[05:07] <kikjezrous> *your
[05:07] <Diplomatico> Ok, all I needed was that sign to pastebin some output about OTHER issues on my ubuntu...But I'll leave that for another day...
[05:07] <Diplomatico> It's always the problem of the problem...
[05:08] <kikjezrous> hold on, gimme a sec.
[05:08] <Diplomatico> Ok.
[05:08] <kikjezrous> you coooould try playing around in your /org/compiz/integrated/ folder.
[05:08] <kikjezrous> let me try, i'll post results.
[05:09] <kikjezrous> yeah, hard to do serious grepping without |.
[05:09] <Diplomatico> Mmm, won't try it , to be honest...
[05:09] <Diplomatico> I'll wait for the bug to be solved.Or, switch to another OS!
[05:09] <kikjezrous> D:
[05:09] <kikjezrous> arch
[05:09] <kikjezrous> or you know, just ditch unity...
[05:09] <Diplomatico> So far, ubuntu is not working for me...
[05:09] <Diplomatico> Buggy all the time.
[05:10] <kikjezrous> sad to hear.
[05:10] <Diplomatico> Not just unity, I have a pen drive with lubuntu in it , and it's not that great either.
[05:10] <kikjezrous> eh, lubuntu has its place.
[05:10] <Diplomatico> Yeah...
[05:10] <kikjezrous> but that's not in mainstream usage.
[05:11] <kikjezrous> i'm about to put it on some school 'machines' with ~512 mb ram.
[05:11] <kikjezrous> half pleased, half guilty.
[05:11] <Diplomatico> Yeah I run it on a netbook...
[05:11] <Diplomatico> With no HDD
[05:11] <kikjezrous> ._.
[05:11] <kikjezrous> oy.
[05:12] <Diplomatico> Ok, Kik, thank you, I don't think I'll change ubuntu any time soon, in fact I'll be back...See you!!
[05:12] <kikjezrous> see you.
[05:28] <pvl1> kikjezrous: i found a solution. its a reported bug, if u still care lol
[05:30] <Bray90820> prob not but would i use "make -f" to make a file
[05:32] <Bray90820> nevermind
[05:34] <Raptors> http://fundraiser.pitivi.org/
[05:34] <Beldar> !spam | Raptors
[05:34] <Raptors> How is that spam?
[05:35] <Beldar> Raptors, It is and we should not have to explain
[05:36] <Raptors> It's pitivi...
[05:36] <Beldar> Raptors, This is ubuntu support period.
[05:37] <nokiabot> how to boot ubuntu quik on a netbook
[05:37] <Gus> Beldar, are you there?
[05:38] <Beldar> Gus, yes
[05:38] <Beldar> nokiabot, Can you define quik?
[05:38] <Gus> Hi, okay, after trying many things, no solution, but, i got the systeminfo file, can you look it up and maybe find the problem?
[05:38] <firiuz> Hi everyone. Anyone ever seeing this bug? http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=d167033
[05:39] <Gus> the site is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6985372
[05:39] <Gus> if you can, of course
[05:39] <Gus> thanks
[05:40] <CarlFK> how do I find a volume's uuid so I can use that in fstab?
[05:41] <firiuz> @Jason_L : sudo blkid
[05:41] <nokiabot> it takes 1+ minute to boot
[05:41] <firiuz> Sory @CarlFK
[05:41] <CarlFK> firiuz: bingo.  thanks
[05:42] <Beldar> Gus, I would post that link on the bootrepiar developers thread. There are people on the forums focused on uefi they really are your best help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[05:42] <Gus> okay, thanks a lot and good night, thanks Beldar. Bye!
[05:43] <Beldar> Gus, Good luck and take it easy
[05:45] <TorrentThis> What software will allow me to sync movies on my iPad
[05:46] <Beldar> nokiabot, Is that an answer to my question?
[05:46] <baus>  /msg nickserv identify LikeABaus
[05:47] <Gus> no luck on the forum Beldar, i got to fix this somehow my friend!
[05:47] <Gus> maybe someone here can help too
[05:48] <Gus> what is uefi anyways?
[05:48] <Beldar> Gus, You have to post there and wait for an answer. I would not mess with it to be honest that thread is your best help.
[05:48] <tobby> need help
[05:48] <Gus> what is uefi?
[05:48] <Beldar> !uefi | gus
[05:48] <tobby> how to install manual printers driver
[05:49] <tobby> hp laserjet p1505
[05:49] <Beldar> Gus, UEFI/gpt is a file system/partitioning that is different than what most of us here know, this is not the best place for it to be honest.
[05:49] <Beldar> for help on it that is
[05:51] <Beldar> Gus, what you appear to have is not necessarily a uefi setup, but the sda HD is 3 terrabytes, making it a gpt setup.
[05:53] <tobby> beldar would you anwer my question on 11:18 nd 11:19
[05:54] <Beldar> tobby, open printers and have it look for drivers.
[05:54] <tobby> i search whole of it, but it never mentions my printer driver
[05:54] <tobby> it mentions different printer driver that is surely no capable of my printer
[05:55] <cfhowlett> tobby, does it mention the hp 150* family of printers?  one of those may work
[05:55] <tobby> yes , sure but dosent shows p1505
[05:55] <tobby> sorry but it shows p2..models
[05:55] <cfhowlett> 150* family?  ANY of them
[05:55] <tobby> no..
[05:56] <cfhowlett> 1400?  1300?
[05:56] <tobby> from p family?
[05:56] <Beldar> tobby, a post on this thread mentions hplip http://askubuntu.com/questions/131754/hp-laserjet-p1505-doesnt-work-after-update-to-ubuntu-12-04
[05:56] <cornernote> hi, i have an ubuntu server and it doesnt send cron output to an external email account
[05:57] <cfhowlett> !server|cornernote,
[05:57] <cornernote> in "crontab -e" MAILTO=me@my.com
[05:57] <tobby> thanks brother...
[05:57] <cornernote> but it gets sent to root
[05:57] <tobby> i am on it..it mentioned me to download 20.1 mb file and i did it ..
[05:58] <cornernote> cfhowlett, thanks, i'll try #ubuntu-server
[05:58] <Gus> Hi Beldar, I just saw your message, the thing is that the Ubuntu is installed on a 400Gb drive, not the 3Tb drive
[06:00] <Beldar> Gus, sure, and that drive shows gpt like the two others. It looks kinda messed up to be honest, I would use that thread to fix this, I can appreciate a need to fix it.
[06:01] <Beldar> I know nothing about lvm especially on a gpt HD
[06:01] <DaveVE3> toby.............  10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?cc=us&lc=en&product=3435668
[06:01] <Gus> okay, that is fine and i just posted the thread on the forum
[06:01] <Gus> again thanks
[06:02] <tobby> beldar..i opened the terminal and wrote down whatever told.
[06:02] <tobby> its shows me something huge going on
[06:02] <Beldar> Gus, No problem look for oldfred to help you.
[06:02] <mikealfa92> my x-server stopped working :(
[06:02] <Beldar> tobby, This is outside my area to be honest, I just happened to find a thread associatte is all.
[06:03] <Beldar> associated*
[06:03] <OhHeyItsLou> hello
[06:03]  * DF3D2 is proud of him self he moved from a bigger hdd to a smaller ssd without reinstalling or using any GUI apps.
[06:03] <tobby> yup. :) beldar
[06:03] <mikealfa92> hello lou
[06:03] <OhHeyItsLou> how's everyone
[06:03] <tobby> f9 lou
[06:03] <mikealfa92> f9 here too
[06:03] <Beldar> !tmi | DF3D2
[06:03] <Beldar> ;)
[06:04] <tobby> are you all official ?
[06:04] <Beldar> OhHeyItsLou, Do you ned support?
[06:04] <OhHeyItsLou> Beldar, nope
[06:04] <Beldar> need*
[06:04] <tobby> hahahahha
[06:04] <Beldar> OhHeyItsLou, Cool this is not chat, however #ubuntu-offtopic is.
[06:04] <tobby> wer r u from beldar
[06:04] <DF3D2> Beldar, dont be a douche bag
[06:04] <DF3D2> it was ubuntu related
[06:04] <DF3D2> your comment was not necessary
[06:05] <Beldar> !attitude | DF3D2
[06:05] <cfhowlett> !behelpful
[06:05] <DF3D2> Beldar, suck my dick dude, you didn't have to be a douche bag
[06:05] <cfhowlett> !language
[06:05] <makara> hi. I stupidly did rm -rf * in a directory
[06:05] <felisfcatus> uh oh
[06:05] <makara> I know recovering will be difficult if not impossible, but how can I see what I deleted?
[06:05] <cfhowlett> makara, reinstall
[06:06] <makara> its my download directory
[06:06] <makara> i just need to see what I deleted
[06:06] <felisfcatus> makara: you better turn off the pc now. boot a live disk and run testdisk
[06:06] <makara> testdisk, that can recover?
[06:06] <felisfcatus> makara: if recovery isnt that important, just install testdisk on the system and run then
[06:07] <makara> i'm not even going to shutdown
[06:07] <felisfcatus> makara: yup, as long as that part of the disk isnt overwritten yet
[06:07] <makara> bye!
[06:07] <Beldar> tobby, Trafalmadore
[06:08] <Beldar> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tralfamadore
[06:08] <DF3D2> Beldar, tmi
[06:08] <DF3D2> no one cares
[06:08] <cfhowlett> !ot|beldar
[06:09] <Beldar> cfhowlett, In the words of eddie Murphy as gumby "Otay"
[06:10] <mikealfa92> cheeni has a question for u guys
[06:14] <cylonship> I need some serious help. Im mot even joking
[06:15] <cfhowlett> !ask
[06:16] <Donskoy> hello I'm trying to install kvm anyone available?
[06:16] <cfhowlett> !kvm
[06:16] <Donskoy> This command I'm stuck
[06:16] <Donskoy> cat /sys/hypervisor/properties/capabilities
[06:16] <Donskoy> it replies with cat: /sys/hypervisor/properties/capabilities: No such file or directory
[06:16] <Donskoy> cfhowlett, what can I do about that?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> Donskoy, I only know that resource - no experience.  sorry.
[06:17] <cylonship> I proceeded to upgrade ubuntu 12 to 13 and the installation weny wrong. Now when i boot my pc i cannot use my keyboard or mouse. How do i fix this
[06:17] <Shed-34046> how do i enable Stereo mix on ubuntu 13.10?
[06:17] <Donskoy> cfhowlett, thanks
[06:17] <dmarr> why wouldnt i be able to start networking on a vagrant vm? its using nat
[06:18] <Donskoy> anyone know about kvm?
[06:18] <Lord-Ragnarock> cylonship: I can't help fix the problem, but I can get you to a spot where you can start using a terminal.
[06:18] <Ben64> cylonship: 12.what to 13.what
[06:18] <Shed-34046> hello?
[06:18] <Shed-34046> how do i use stereo mix on ubuntu? :(
[06:18] <cfhowlett> !patience|Shed-34046,
[06:18] <Lord-Ragnarock> Just hit ctrl+alt and an F-kay between 1 and 6 :)
[06:18] <cylonship> 12 10 to 13.10
[06:18] <Ben64> cylonship: ok, how did you do that upgrade
[06:19] <xangua> cylonship: so you did a clean install of ubuntu 13.10¿
[06:19] <cylonship> Through the software center
[06:19] <Ben64> software center does no go from 12.10 to 13.10
[06:19] <cylonship> No Angus
[06:19] <cylonship> It let me do zo. The prompt came up and i followed it
[06:20] <Ben64> can you boot into recovery mode
[06:20] <cylonship> Yes i can but i have no mouse or kb access
[06:21] <Ben64> even in recovery?
[06:21] <cylonship> Right
[06:21] <Ben64> try a different keyboard
[06:22] <cylonship> I only have one. Im ircing on my phone roght now
[06:22] <Ben64> then i don't know what to tell you. if you can't input any commands theres nothing to do
[06:23] <cylonship> I can drop to root mode in recovery but i dont know what to do from there
[06:23] <Ben64> you said keyboard didn't work
[06:23] <cylonship> My keyboard works until the gui comes up
[06:24] <Ben64> :|
[06:24] <cylonship> Sorru. Jusy clarified
[06:24] <cylonship> Host
[06:24] <cylonship> Ughhh
[06:25] <cylonship> Gonna restart into root
[06:27] <rezan> hi
[06:28] <cylonship> Okay im in recovery mode with root access
[06:28] <rezan> hz
[06:28] <cylonship> What should i do now. Terminal is up
[06:29] <rezan> hi i want to send email from terminal ..can you help me ou t??
[06:30] <rezan> hi i want to send email from terminal ..can you help me ou t??
[06:31] <ompal> rezan: mail  user@ip/domain
[06:31] <Ben64> cylonship: ok, pastebin the output from the following command:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; cat /etc/issue; cat /etc/apt/sources.list; cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[06:34] <cylonship> i cant pastebin because im ircing from my phone
[06:35] <Ben64> pastebin from your computer...
[06:36] <cylonship> I cant....my computer is single boot ubuntu and i cant boot into it
[06:36] <Ben64> what? paste it from ubuntu?
[06:36] <Beldar> !pastebinit | cylonship
[06:38] <cylonship> Okay i think im being misunderstood....
[06:38] <cylonship> Im in a recovery mode root terminal with no network access on my pc
[06:39] <Ben64> then plug a network cable in...
[06:39] <felisfcatus> lol...
[06:39] <cylonship> It is plugged in
[06:40] <cylonship> I just pinged yahoo and the resultbis unknown jost
[06:40] <Toadstool2> anyone try getting livecode to work on ubuntu?
[06:40] <cylonship> Host
[06:40] <Toadstool2> i cant seem to install live code
[06:40] <Toadstool2> it says exiting on signal 11
[06:42] <cylonship> No one here seems to understand what my problem is. If i could just apt-get my way to a fix i would have already
[06:42] <Beldar> !details | Toadstool2
[06:43] <Beldar> cylonship, No one has apt-get instructed you, we understand your problem.
[06:43] <jfs8d32> minitube dont work what can be wrong
[06:43] <Ben64> cylonship: nobody understands your problem because you can't give us any information at all
[06:43] <Toadstool2> i have a problem with livecode, im running ubuntu 13.10, when i try to install the setup i get the following output....
[06:43] <Beldar> Toadstool2, That all has meant nothing so far.
[06:44] <Toadstool2> /home/home/Downloads/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-6_5_0-Linux.x86 exiting on signal 11
[06:44] <Ben64> you should contact them then, that doesn't appear to be an ubuntu package
[06:44] <cylonship> My system is broken. I dont have the mesns to pastebin the info
[06:44] <Toadstool2> i have already set the file permissions to execute
[06:45] <Ben64> cylonship: ok, then download 13.10 and install it fresh
[06:45] <Toadstool2> oh one more thing
[06:45] <Toadstool2> im running ubuntu-gnome
[06:45] <Toadstool2> not sure if that makes a huge difference
[06:45] <Toadstool2> has anyone else tried livecode?
[06:45] <Ben64> Toadstool2: you should contact whoever makes that
[06:45] <Beldar> Toadstool2, Live code is 3rd party you might contact them, technically not supported here.
[06:46] <Toadstool2> well check this out
[06:46] <cfhowlett> !details|jfs8d32,
[06:47] <Toadstool2> i was reading something about 64 bit ubuntu not installing a 32bit compatability layer
[06:47] <Toadstool2> is there some 32 bit compatability layer package?
[06:47] <cylonship> I cant do that because i only have one computer and unless there's a way to do that from my phone my pc is just unudable. It doesnt have an optical drive. Its usb or hd bootable only
[06:48] <Beldar> Toadstool2, Just a heads up you are wasting your time here.
[06:48] <Lord-Ragnarock> Well, looks like I have my problem solved with a minor inconvenience :D
[06:48] <Ben64> cylonship: dunno what to tell you, if you can't provide us with any information, how are we supposed to help
[06:48] <Toadstool2> okay well thanks anyway
[06:49] <jfs8d32> no video, then i just dont work,is that hard to understand,and ist a ubuntu chat so i must run ubuntu then yeah
[06:49] <Lord-Ragnarock> Now Caps and Shift-Caps switch layouts, but with a Caps light that just goes on then back off. Doesn't affect anything.
[06:49] <cylonship> I understand. Im here as a last resort. Im providing all rhe info i can give
[06:49] <Ben64> cylonship: pastebin is pretty basic. without at least that, theres nothing to do
[06:49] <Vivekananda> how do I change terminator default launch command
[06:50] <Ben64> cylonship: i really doubt that upgrading from 12.10 to 13.10 (which is impossible by the way) broke your keyboard, mouse, and network
[06:51] <cylonship> Bit how do i pastebin on an sndroid phone? I have no network access in my root shell on my pc unless someone can tell me how to enable it
[06:51] <Ben64> cylonship: its enabled by default
[07:03] <sara> Hi
[07:03] <dmarr> anybody know about this lxc-docker error? https://gist.github.com/marr/1d23b8e411d0266c899c
[07:14] <jcrubino3> can I forward port 8000 to port 80 for local development?
[07:15] <sara> How I do wirte script for ffmpeg . While I right click on video file , the name file as input ffmpeg ?
[07:19] <Beldar> !ffmpeg
[07:26] <DF3D2> o.O
[07:33] <LittleCoderCN> 是这个地方吗
[07:34] <Beldar> !cn | LittleCoderCN
[07:34] <Evilmax> how can i see the sudo users list on ubuntu?
[07:35] <Stainedhat> Evilmax: visudo
[07:36] <LittleCoderCN> oh oh!thanks
[07:37] <Ben64> that doesn't show it, Stainedhat
[07:37] <Evilmax> Stainedhat
[07:37] <Evilmax> with visudo i see the sudoers...but if you added a sudo user with "sudo adduser user sudo"
[07:38] <Evilmax> you can not see it in /etc/sudoers
[07:38] <Ben64> Evilmax: try "grep sudo /etc/group"
[07:38] <Evilmax> am i wrong?
[07:39] <Stainedhat> Evilmax: sorry i misunderstood your question
[07:42] <Evilmax> it seems that my "sudo -s" command...works with every user
[07:42] <Evilmax> !
[07:43] <fritzroy15> yo! can anyone please tell me where I set it so when I restart my machine my previous applications restart all by default? i dont remember where that was
[07:48] <hewhomust> http://en.kioskea.net/faq/15528-ubuntu-automatically-restore-last-opened-programs-at-next-sessi
[07:49] <ggreer> hewhomust: won't that only reopen the currently-open programs? what if I just want whatever's running at shutdown to start back up?
[07:49] <hewhomust> ggreer:  no it saves the programs that are open when you shutdown
[07:49] <ggreer> oh, cool
[07:51] <leeyaa> heloo guys
[07:51] <leeyaa> hello*
[07:51] <hewhomust> hi leeyaa
[07:52] <leeyaa> can anyone explain to me why resolv.conf was moved to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf  and we are using a symlink for /etc/resolv.conf
[07:52] <leeyaa> and when was this introduced
[07:52] <leeyaa> and is it save to make that file immutable (/etc/resolv.conf) on a production server where it doesnt change, ever.
[07:57] <lng> Hello guys! On a fresh Ubuntu 12.04, I have replaced Unity with classic Gnome. Finally, my external monitor resolution is the same as on laptop, external monitor is not shown in System Settings and picture is the same on both screens. How can I fix it? Do I have to manually configure Xorg?
[07:59] <Beldar> lng, You mean displays in system settings, you do not see both screens?
[08:00] <lng> Beldar: just fixed it
[08:00] <lng> :-)
[08:00] <Beldar> excellent
[08:00] <lng> thanks anyway
[08:08] <rick_> Hi all, is XV based on mesa?
[08:10] <Beldar> rick_, What is XV?
[08:11] <makara> hi. I'm connected to a server remotely. How can I bring down and bring an interface in one go?
[08:12] <rick_> Beldar, X-Video Extension
[08:12] <rysha> hey, anyone got a minute?
[08:13] <rysha> anyone? maybe? <3
[08:13] <makara> rysha, just ask your question please
[08:13] <hewhomust> no none has a minute
[08:14] <rysha> oh, my bad makara :P
[08:14] <rysha> trying to make tinychat work with ubuntu 13.10 - exhausted my google options, can't find shit.
[08:14] <rysha> can't get past the first "allow" box when broadcasting
[08:15] <Beldar> rysha, Just a heads up no swearing here.
[08:15] <rysha> sorry!
[08:15] <Beldar> not a big deal
[08:16] <rysha> ^^ any clue what I can do to fix this?
[08:19] <leeyaa> how to add a vpn tun0 pptp interface to network interfaces so it starts automatically ?
[08:22] <llutz_> leeyaa: shouldn't the iface come up automatically when pptpd starts?
[08:23] <Beldar> rysha, tiny chat is a 3rd party technically not supported here, a bit slow right now as well. You might try during a busier time maybe someone knows.
[08:23] <rysha> Beldar, :/ okay.
[08:24] <rysha> I've been messing with settings and such for a while, haven't been able to get it to work.
[08:24] <foriamroot> elaborate on trying to make it work
[08:24] <rysha> foriamroot, me?
[08:25] <foriamroot> yes
[08:25] <rysha> my problem - you mean?
[08:25] <foriamroot> yes
[08:25] <rysha> basically, when I try to broadcast on tinychat I can't click any of the flash options. Changing the global settings to always allow doesn't help, either.
[08:25] <foriamroot> what flash player are you using?
[08:26] <rysha> whatever's current, just updated before I tried.
[08:26] <leeyaa> llutz_: it does, im just not sure what is the right way to add it
[08:26] <roflin> Hey guys I'm having an issue, when i try to login with my greeter the desktop manager tries to start but fails and restart my greeter. Any ideas?
[08:26] <leeyaa> so i can use events for ifdown
[08:26] <leeyaa> if interface goes down, to execute a script
[08:26] <weldon> a friend installed ubuntu on my laptop and his name is shown as owner(in terminal), how do i change the name of the owner?
[08:26] <rysha> foriamroot, firefox is giving me; 11.2.202.341
[08:27] <foriamroot> of what though? flashplugin-nonfree?
[08:27] <foriamroot> or did you download adobe and install it?
[08:27] <rysha> flashplugin-installer
[08:27] <hewhomust> weldon what do you mean owner, hostname?
[08:27] <foriamroot> leeyaa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41400/how-do-i-make-the-script-to-run-automatically-when-tun0-interface-up-down-events
[08:28] <foriamroot> rysha: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15408/flashplugin-installer-vs-flashplugin-nonfree-vs-adobe-flashplugin
[08:28] <leeyaa> foriamroot: so instead of echo "tun0 up" >> /var/log/tun-up.log i just put there my command that starts vpn? thats all ?
[08:28] <weldon> hewhomust: it says tempi@weldon's vaio      i am weldon and want to change tempi to say weldon;)
[08:29] <rysha> foriamroot, that doesn't really address my issue, does it?
[08:29] <foriamroot> rysha: yes it does
[08:29] <foriamroot> leeyaa: I am not sure about tun0, but I think the script in /etc/network/if-up.d/ and /etc/network/if-down.d/ are invoked when an interface goes up or down, respectively.
[08:29] <foriamroot> add w/e you want there
[08:29] <foriamroot> or add a call to your script
[08:29] <rysha> how so?
[08:29] <foriamroot> your issue is flash related
[08:29] <leeyaa> foriamroot: will it detect if interfaces stops by killing it for example
[08:30] <leeyaa> it should, right >?
[08:30] <rysha> my flash is fully updated, i just tried to apt-get flashplugin-nonfree, nothing updated, considering I have latest versions
[08:30] <foriamroot> not sure try it
[08:30] <leeyaa> thanks for the info
[08:30] <foriamroot> you may have the wrong flash
[08:30] <foriamroot> there are three different one
[08:30] <foriamroot> each have pro + con
[08:31] <rysha> okay - so, what would you recommend i do then?
[08:31] <foriamroot> change your flash
[08:31] <foriamroot> which ubuntu are oyu using?
[08:31] <foriamroot> you*
[08:31] <rysha> 13.10
[08:32] <foriamroot> x86 or x86_64 etc
[08:32] <rysha> x86_64
[08:33] <foriamroot> sudo apt-get -y purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get -y install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:33] <foriamroot> then try again
[08:33] <foriamroot> most peoples problem are with configuring camera, not with flash
[08:33] <rysha> trying now
[08:34] <weldon> hewhomust: any suggestions? maybe you could school me on proper terminology
[08:34] <rysha> foriamroot, nope, same issue.
[08:34] <rysha> can't click the flash box.
[08:35] <foriamroot> one sec
[08:35] <roflin> nvm found it, had to remove .Xauthorithy...
[08:35] <rysha> kk
[08:35] <oinkers> k
[08:35] <foriamroot> firefox?
[08:35] <rysha> yes
[08:37] <hsyue> i have somehow screwed my keybindings with xkeybindings. my emacs is tied to key digit one.
[08:37] <hsyue> how do i remove this keybinding
[08:37] <hsyue> ?
[08:37] <weldon> a friend installed ubuntu on my laptop and his name is shown as owner(in terminal), how do i change the name of the owner?
[08:37] <foriamroot> please elaborate on his name is shown in terminal as owner
[08:38] <foriamroot> as in weldon@localhost:~
[08:38] <foriamroot> rysha: try this
[08:38] <foriamroot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1226722&page=3&p=9297952#post9297952
[08:38] <weldon> foriamroot tempi@weldon's-vaio
[08:38] <foriamroot> and you want what?
[08:39] <rysha> foriamroot, that's what I tried originally, and the direct link 404'd on me.
[08:39] <weldon> foriamroot: i want to change "tempi" to "weldon"
[08:39] <hewhomust> foriamroot: the username is wrong
[08:39] <weldon> foriamroot: as in  weldon@weldon's-vaio
[08:39] <rysha> weldon, gksudo gedit /etc/hostname
[08:40] <foriamroot> sudo adduser weldon
[08:40] <foriamroot> su weldon
[08:40] <hewhomust> yeah easiest way would be to just make another user with your name
[08:40] <geirha> no need for su when you have sudo
[08:41] <foriamroot> su weldon
[08:41] <foriamroot> ty it in terminal
[08:41] <foriamroot> sudo adduser
[08:41] <foriamroot> SwitchUser weldon
[08:41] <foriamroot> or log out and log in as weldon
[08:41] <geirha> sudo -u weldon -i
[08:41] <foriamroot> that works too
[08:41] <foriamroot> rysha: looking for a download now
[08:41] <rysha> foriamroot, thank you very much.
[08:42] <foriamroot> np
[08:43] <weldon> geirha: foriamroot: thank you both!
[08:44] <weldon> it worked so far, i am about to restart my machine and check that the changes are for good;)
[08:44] <helmut_> hi
[08:44] <hewhomust> hi helmut_
[08:48] <Wnt> I'm having problems installing Skype on a 64 bit Trusty machine. Output of "apt-get install skype" and "apt-get install skype-bin" and some other commands at: http://upload.egarden.fi/apt-get_install_skype_failed.txt Has someone seen similar problems? Why cannot the libc6:i386 package be installed?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !trusty|Wnt,
[08:51] <rysha> foriamroot, any luck?
[08:51] <Wnt> cfhowlett: yes, I know what Trusty is, I have it installed on my machine. I just would like to get some help getting Skype installed on it
[08:51] <cfhowlett> Wnt, support for trusty is in #ubuntu+1.  Ask there.
[08:52] <Wnt> cfhowlett: ok, thanks!
[08:53] <foriamroot> still looking
[08:53] <rysha> foriamroot, thanks! :) i am too
[08:56] <leeyaa> i have added this for my tun0 device to interfaces config
[08:56] <leeyaa> http://bpaste.net/show/4bdj0rYad7HgUQcoj2O4/
[08:56] <leeyaa> what else do i need to be able to start it using ifup tun0 ?
[08:56] <leeyaa> atm i get Cannot find device "tun0"
[08:57] <llutz_> leeyaa: your down/up statements don't make sense.
[08:57] <foriamroot> ^
[08:57] <foriamroot> rysha: try http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/installers/archive/fp_10.1.102.64_and_9.0.289.0_archive.zip
[08:57] <Whizkid> Any Numix Fans???
[08:57] <leeyaa> llutz_: can you give me an example please
[08:58] <leeyaa> what is the right way to do it
[08:58] <foriamroot> or http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/installers/archive/fp10.1_archive.zip
[08:58] <llutz_> leeyaa: up/down commands are being run, when the iface goes up/down. so you say "bring tun0 up when tun0 comes up"
[08:58] <rysha> alright, and use the same installation method as in the previous link you sent me foriamroot ?
[08:58] <foriamroot> yeah try it and see what happens
[08:58] <rysha> kk, thanks.
[08:58] <foriamroot> may have to kill ff and manually install the so files
[08:58] <foriamroot> might work
[08:58] <rysha> how would I do that?
[08:59] <foriamroot> see whats in the archive first
[08:59] <rysha> kk
[08:59] <leeyaa> llutz_: so if i am bringing tun0 up by executing for example sh /root/tun.sh what should i do ?
[08:59] <llutz_> leeyaa: just remove the up/down lines
[09:00] <leeyaa> and then what
[09:00] <foriamroot> what are you tryin got do? my understanding was run a custom command when the interface came up
[09:00] <foriamroot> trying to do*
[09:00] <llutz_> !who | foriamroot
[09:01] <leeyaa> llutz_: same thing, ubuntu doesnt know how to start it
[09:01] <leeyaa> where do you configure it
[09:01] <leeyaa> in if-up.d ?
[09:01] <llutz_> leeyaa: what exactly do you want to achieve?
[09:01] <rysha> foriamroot, the archive contains FP 10.1 and 9.0, the 10.1 contains 10_1 64 and the debug version, i'm assuming i should extract the original 64 version of 10_1?
[09:02] <foriamroot> sure
[09:02] <foriamroot> rysha: sounds like a plan
[09:02] <foriamroot> rysha: see whats in the archive
[09:02] <leeyaa> lutz: my goal is to use events to bring that tun0 interface up or down. so first i would like to be able to bring it up by executing ifup eth0 and then try to figure out how to bring it automatically up if it goes down.
[09:03] <rysha> the 10_1r102_64 archive has a bunch of installation files for different OS's.. do I want linux.tar.gz specifically? assuming.  foriamroot
[09:03] <foriamroot> rysha: yes you want linux
[09:03] <rysha> okay, this also contains a .so
[09:03] <llutz> sry for nicks
[09:03] <foriamroot> rysha: assuming you are comfortable with installing manually? i.e. make make install
[09:03] <foriamroot> rysha: make sure you purge flash first
[09:04] <leeyaa> llutz: does that make any sense ?
[09:04] <rysha> okay - so, fill me in then on manual?
[09:04] <llutz> leeyaa: so define tun0 as you did in interfaces, remove the up/down lines
[09:04] <rysha> i'm not comfortabel with it, heh
[09:04] <Caleb--> any idea why "sudo ifdown eth0" gives me "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured", even though it is listed in /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:04] <leeyaa> llutz: i did that, same error
[09:04] <foriamroot> rysha: first sudoa pt-get -y purge flashplugin-nonfree
[09:04] <leeyaa> tun0 doesnt exist
[09:04] <rysha> kk
[09:04] <foriamroot> rysha: first sudo apt-get -y purge flashplugin-nonfree
[09:04] <llutz> leeyaa: sudo modprobe tun
[09:04] <foriamroot> rysha: then close firefox
[09:05] <rysha> okay, purged
[09:05] <leeyaa> llutz: module is already loaded,
[09:05] <foriamroot> rysha: then unpack the linux.tar.gz
[09:05] <rysha> now purge 'flashplugin-installer', yes?
[09:05] <foriamroot> rysha: i.e. tar -zxvf ./filename
[09:05] <foriamroot> yes
[09:05] <foriamroot> rysha: yes
[09:05] <leeyaa> i can confirm it by checking devices
[09:05] <llutz> leeyaa: /sbin/ifconfig tun0
[09:05] <rysha> should i unpack through terminal? i already extracted the .so to desktop.
[09:06] <rysha> foriamroot,
[09:06] <llutz> leeyaa: do you get info about tun0?
[09:06] <foriamroot> rysha: doesnt matter
[09:06] <leeyaa> llutz: no device isnt started
[09:06] <rysha> okay, i'm not familiar with what tar -zxvf does
[09:06] <llutz> leeyaa: /sbin/ifconfig -a
[09:06] <foriamroot> rysha: is it just the .so or is it the entire package
[09:06] <rysha> it has .so
[09:06] <rysha> specifically
[09:06] <leeyaa> llutz: it is not there
[09:06] <leeyaa> when istart it i have to execute a script
[09:07] <foriamroot> rysha: hmmmm
[09:07] <llutz> leeyaa: tun loaded but no iface tun*... check why not first.
[09:07] <foriamroot> rysha: you will need flash installed then need to replace the so file
[09:07] <Whizkid> should i install 32bit ubuntu or 64bit??
[09:07] <leeyaa> llutz: i dont understand
[09:07] <rysha> foriamroot, so how  should I go about that?
[09:07] <foriamroot> Whizkid: how much ram?
[09:07] <rysha> Whizkid, 32bit/64bit is based on ram
[09:07] <Whizkid> 1gm
[09:07] <foriamroot> rysha: re-install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:07] <rysha> kk.
[09:07] <Whizkid> 1gb
[09:07] <foriamroot> Whizkid: 32bit
[09:07] <foriamroot> Whizkid: you will gian nothing by installing 64
[09:08] <rysha> ^
[09:08] <Whizkid> i have a 64bit system.
[09:08] <foriamroot> Whizkid: ?
[09:08] <foriamroot> Whizkid: use 32 bit for compatibility with apps
[09:08] <rysha> unnecessary then Whizkid, 64bit is only useful for taking full advantage of 4gb+ ram
[09:08] <llutz> leeyaa: "ls -l /dev/net/tun"   any output?
[09:08] <rysha> foriamroot, okay, so - how do i replace this .so now?
[09:08] <Whizkid> i mean whats the difference??
[09:09] <foriamroot> rysha: one sec. not sure where flash installs by default
[09:09] <rysha> Whizkid, the difference is a 64bit OS fully utilized more than 4gb of ram
[09:09] <rysha> 32bit cannot.
[09:09] <leeyaa> llutz: crw-rw-rwT 1 root root 10, 200 Feb 23 13:31 /dev/net/tun
[09:09] <Whizkid> Thats it. :)
[09:09] <foriamroot> rysha: copy the file to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[09:10] <rysha> what's the full string for that? not 100% comfortable, here.
[09:10] <Beldar> rysha, 32 bit will run 4 with pae kernels
[09:10] <Caleb--> what's the most recommended way to restart the networking service in ubuntu?
[09:10] <rysha> Beldar, good to know ^^
[09:10] <foriamroot> cp ./*.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[09:10] <foriamroot> cp ./*.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[09:10] <foriamroot> rysha: cp ./*.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[09:10] <foriamroot> all: sorry for the spam
[09:11] <Whizkid> rysha, thanks.
[09:11] <foriamroot> Beldar: physical address extension will still limit apps to 3.5gb
[09:11] <foriamroot> Beldar: although it will address more than 3.5
[09:11] <rysha> foriamroot, cp: cannot stat ‘./*libflashplayer.so’: No such file or directory
[09:11] <rysha> also returned the same for .so itself
[09:11] <foriamroot> rysha: whats the name of the so
[09:11] <rysha> libflashplayer.so
[09:12] <foriamroot> rysha: cp -fv ./libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[09:13] <foriamroot> Beldar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[09:13] <rysha> foriamroot, still, cannot stat. might it be ./~?
[09:13] <rysha> i forget.
[09:13] <llutz> leeyaa: why would you manually start/stop the ifaceß iirc the iface will be brought up if a client connects to the service, so you just have to make sure your pptpd runs
[09:13] <foriamroot> rysha: pwd && ls
[09:14] <llutz> "iface. iirc" *
[09:14] <leeyaa> llutz: it has to be always up
[09:14] <leeyaa> llutz: and it has to bring itself up automatically if it goes down
[09:15] <leeyaa> there is no pptpd, i use a custom script to bring it down. it is juniper network connect vpn. you execute a command and i made it as a custom deamon.
[09:15] <leeyaa> bring it up*
[09:15] <Whizkid> Where can i find? linux action show channel??
[09:15] <Whizkid> Where can i find? linux action show channel??
[09:15] <Whizkid> Where can i find? linux action show channel??
[09:15] <Whizkid> Where can i find? linux action show channel??
[09:15] <Whizkid> Where can i find? linux action show channel??
[09:15] <leeyaa> lmao
[09:15] <llutz> Whizkid: stop it
[09:15] <cfhowlett> Whizkid, stop spamming the channel
[09:16] <rysha> foriamroot, yeah, i'm dumb, hah. ls'd i was currently ~, cd to /Desktop/ and then did your original string and it went through
[09:16] <cfhowlett> and change your name.
[09:16] <leeyaa> llutz: can this be achieved by ubuntu's network manager or i should just gi for a cron job that runs every 10 sec ?
[09:16] <leeyaa> just go*
[09:16] <llutz> leeyaa: sry idk
[09:16] <rysha> foriamroot, so - command went through, now try again yeah?
[09:16] <Whizkid> i hate Jono Bacon
[09:18] <Beldar> foriamroot, Why are you telling me?
[09:19] <rysha> foriamroot, yeah, cp that over, still having the same issue. fuck.
[09:19] <Beldar> !language | rysha
[09:20] <Beldar> rysha, That is the second time I have had to address this with you.
[09:20] <rysha> sorry! forgot.
[09:20] <rysha> zz
[09:21] <foriamroot> rysha: were you able to copy the file over?
[09:21] <rysha> foriamroot, yes, i was, and it didn't seem to have any effect
[09:22] <foriamroot> rysha: its definitely a flash problem
[09:22] <foriamroot> rysha: just keep trying different flash versions
[09:23] <foriamroot> rysha: you restarted firefox after replacing the so, yes?
[09:23] <rysha> foriamroot, yeah
[09:23] <foriamroot> rysha: then just keep trying different versions of flash
[09:23] <leeyaa> llutz: i found a way to do it
[09:23] <foriamroot> rysha: you can also try different browsers
[09:23] <rysha> foriamroot, no clue why this is happening.. with chrome it lets me get past flash, and then says my camera is already in-use. chromium gives the same issues as FF.
[09:24] <leeyaa> http://bpaste.net/show/NXabDPvKeHhiMyOn0I6h/
[09:24] <rysha> foriamroot, can you think of any other browser I should try maybe? or could I possibly tinychat WITHOUT flash?
[09:24] <trijntje_> Hi all, I copied my ssh key over to a new lubuntu laptop, but when I ssh to a host that trusts that key, I still get prompted for the password of that host. What did I do wrong?
[09:24] <leeyaa> does it make any sense now >
[09:24] <foriamroot> rysha: i believe you need flash for tinychat
[09:25] <foriamroot> rysha: opera maybe? not sure
[09:25] <foriamroot> rysha: it may be a camera problem
[09:25] <El_Quedro> I got a sound looping in the background right now (I believe from a website).  I have shutdown all apps but the sound keeps looping. What service should I restart? restarting pulse audio and reloading alsa do not seem to work..
[09:25] <rysha> hm, i'll give opera a try.
[09:26] <foriamroot> rysha: there was a lot of complaints of camera issues with tinychat and camera
[09:26] <rysha> foriamroot, it's not a camera issue, as my camera works with skype and cheese
[09:26] <foriamroot> rysha: and linux in general*
[09:26] <foriamroot> rysha: issues with the camera working with tinychat but working in other apps
[09:26] <rysha> foriamroot, ahhh
[09:28] <OerHeks> trijntje_, you want the ssh ky only, without password ? see this answer, PasswordAuthentication no >> http://askubuntu.com/a/184036
[09:28] <OerHeks> and restart sshd
[09:29] <rhumbot> hi all, i need a lmap webserver to locally test scripts. usually i would use xampp or even a portable webserver. i read that xampp does not work properly on ubuntu. is there an alternative besides installing all the components seperatly?
[09:29] <trijntje_> OerHeks: I've already done that on the host, and I can ssh from my other pc. But on my new laptop, its like ssh doesnt know about the keys, even though I placed them in .ssh
[09:29] <rysha> foriamroot, it worked with opera.
[09:29] <rysha> foriamroot, so it's definitely not my flash... wtf.
[09:29] <rysha> or is it? idk.
[09:29] <foriamroot> hmmm
[09:29] <foriamroot> rysha: not sure
[09:30] <foriamroot> trijntje_: create a local ~/.ssh/config
[09:30] <OerHeks> trijntje_,   permissions set correct on the ssh folder and the keys ?
[09:30] <rysha> foriamroot, actually, camera doesn't work, but i can get past the dialogues. hm.
[09:31] <foriamroot> rysha: then its def the camera issue
[09:31] <foriamroot> rysha: try googling for tinychat camera ubuntu
[09:31] <rysha> foriamroot, pretty ridiculous, hah. gotcha.
[09:31] <trijntje_> foriamroot: I also copied the config file from the other pc, what else should I put in there?
[09:31] <foriamroot> trijntje_: not the config from other oc
[09:31] <mcjohnalds> how do i stop the unity search changing what "filter results" buttons are selected?
[09:31] <foriamroot> trijntje_: a local config file telling it which key to use
[09:32] <foriamroot> trijntje_: i had a similar issue where it wouldnt use my key at all
[09:32] <foriamroot> trijntje_: i had to specify the key in a local file
[09:32] <foriamroot> trijntje_: similar ot this
[09:32] <foriamroot> to*
[09:32] <foriamroot> http://pastebin.com/Z9vpyUTG
[09:32] <rysha> foriamroot, do you think it could be my ubuntu version? would 12.04LTS have better luck
[09:32] <foriamroot> rysha: it might you can try live and see if it works
[09:32] <OerHeks> trijntje_, PubkeyAuthentication yes RSAAuthentication yes ?
[09:33] <foriamroot> OerHeks: he said the key works but also wants password, i believe
[09:33] <rysha> foriamroot, can you advise me on how to change ubuntu versions? that's one department i have 0 clue in, without fucking everything up.
[09:33] <trijntje_> foriamroot, OerHeks: turns out it was a problem with the permissions on the keyfile, so its fixed now. Thanks!
[09:33] <foriamroot> rysha: try live first
[09:33] <OerHeks> great have fun
[09:33] <foriamroot> good call OerHeks
[09:33] <rysha> yeah? okay i will
[09:35] <foriamroot> OerHeks: so why would mine not use the key without using a config with IdentityFile?
[09:37] <OerHeks> foriamroot, maybe permission on the key or folder is wrong, chmod 700 ~/.ssh && chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[09:37] <OerHeks> ssh can be tricky
[09:38] <foriamroot> OerHeks: the server is set up right. it works from other devices. i will check my perms.
[09:39] <foriamroot> OerHeks: the public and known_hosts is 644 everything else is 600
[09:39] <foriamroot> OerHeks: everything else as in config and private
[09:40] <OerHeks> foriamroot, might want to try debug mode > sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -d  (  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys )
[09:41] <llutz> 600 for files in ~/.ssh is fine, no need to be readable by anyone else
[09:42] <foriamroot> ahhhhhh
[09:42] <foriamroot> authorized_keys is 744? thats weird
[09:44] <foriamroot> still works from my laptop and other devices desktop was the only thing to give me issues
[09:44] <foriamroot> i never bothered to look into it just used a config
[09:44] <damascene> Hi, I'm testing Ubuntu 14.04 testing. where to ask question about testing?
[09:45] <OerHeks> damascene, join #ubuntu+1 for trusty 14.04 issues
[09:45] <foriamroot> anyone else running ubuntu touch?
[09:46] <DJones> !touch | foriamroot
[09:46] <damascene> thanks OerHeks
[09:46] <foriamroot> DJones: i know. was wonderin if anyone else was runnig it.
[09:46] <DJones> foriamroot: Thats probably the best channel to ask about it in though
[09:47] <foriamroot> DJones: i will keep that in mind
[09:48] <foriamroot> im off to bed
[09:49] <rysha> Fogest, thanks for the help.
[09:49] <rysha> err, foriam, lol
[09:51] <marz> ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my VGA port.
[09:53] <marz> Can anyone help me with my vga port, ubuntu doesnt seem to detect my external monitor
[09:55] <OerHeks> marz, is this a laptop ?
[09:56] <OerHeks> marz does that machine have FN key for internal/external/both displays?
[09:56] <marz> OerHeks: Yeah
[09:56] <marz> OerHeks: I tried that one already, its Fn+F3
[09:56] <leeyaa> hello
[09:56] <marz> OerHeks: doesn't work
[09:57] <leeyaa> so i have added a tun0 interface that i can start with ifup tun0 and via networking manager. however, when i do that i get these warnings http://bpaste.net/show/oWkedOOvABtsf5wnFOMz/
[09:57] <leeyaa> interface starts and is working fine
[09:57] <leeyaa> but how to make network manager not to complain ?
[09:57] <retrosenator> I uninstall network manager
[09:58] <Sven_vB> where can i find translations of error messages like E_NOENT into something human-readable like "file not found"?
[09:58] <leeyaa> retrosenator: thats not a solution
[09:58] <retrosenator> for me it is
[09:59] <retrosenator> it would be nice to fix network manager though
[10:00] <marz> can anyone help me with my problem. My laptop running Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't seem to detect my external monitor
[10:06] <Sven_vB> found it. translation of common error messages such as ENOENT can be found with: grep -Pe '^#define\s+E[A-Z]+\b' -r /usr/include/asm-generic/
[10:13] <YabaDabaDoge> anybody else have crappy ISP DNS servers that throw NXDOMs and errors all the time?
[10:22] <jatt> Sven_vB: it also can be found with
[10:22] <jatt> man 3 errno
[10:25] <Sven_vB> jatt, thy
[10:27] <Sven_vB> jatt, dp you also know where to find localized versions?
[10:32] <jatt> Sven_vB: no no idea, other than produce the error in a different locale (maybe there is a command to obtain them (or with a little C-program))
[10:34] <This_Guy_Here> this is nuts
[10:34] <This_Guy_Here> typed out /list and all hell broke loose
[10:35] <JediMaster> hi guys, I've just booted my ubuntu 13.10 machine up this morning and after the grub boot menu I get a black screen, with no flashing cursor, for around 2 minutes, then the following: "INFO: task plymouthd:235 bloked for more than 120 seconds", which is then repeated every 120 seconds. X doesn't load, but I can log into tty2 terminal. Any ideas?
[10:35] <ikonia> This_Guy_Here: the guys in #freenode can help you learn the best way to use the network, tips and tricks etc
[10:35] <JediMaster> syslog shows something that resembles a kernel oops for the hung tasks
[10:36] <This_Guy_Here> thanks ikonia, i'm guessing this is not the right place then.
[10:36] <ikonia> This_Guy_Here: yeah, #freenode would be the right place,
[10:36] <This_Guy_Here> thanks a bunch.
[10:37] <JediMaster> Xorg.0.log shows only (II) entries, and doesn't actually start up X, last thing it shows is "Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[10:37] <JediMaster> restart lightdm also doesn't start X up, same thing shows up in the x log again
[10:39] <ihre> I have a ntfs ssd which was used as boot device for a Windows 8.1 installation. It has a corrupted fs, so I cannot mount it. Could I use a workaround to extract the data from the disk? I'd like to back up the data before trying ntfsfix. http://dpaste.com/1653238/
[10:40] <OfficerFlyingGur> Ihre you tried gparted?
[10:41] <snowkrash> hi
[10:41] <mudshrimp> hey
[10:41] <snowkrash> question how save is it to use flash on linux?
[10:41] <snowkrash> or not save
[10:42] <snowkrash> because i always here about the adobe leaks
[10:42] <snowkrash> read
[10:42] <snowkrash> no one?
[10:42] <JediMaster> safe do you mean?
[10:42] <snowkrash> yes security i meant
[10:42] <JediMaster> plenty of people use flash on linux
[10:43] <snowkrash> well on windows too
[10:43] <snowkrash> thats why ppl break into their systems
[10:43] <JediMaster> snowkrash, are you talking about your personal computer, or is this a secure government computer or similar?
[10:43] <snowkrash> its my workstation thats enought
[10:44] <JediMaster> for your own personal machine, i'd say it's fine, just make sure you do your updates regularly
[10:44] <k1l> snowkrash: it is not more dangerous than on windows systems. i would avoid flash at all if you are concerned about security. but there is no real difference between the layer OS
[10:44] <snowkrash> im also using linux in a sandbox just to get sure that if anything happens it stays in the virtual machine
[10:44] <snowkrash> which should be even more secure
[10:44] <snowkrash> ok i see
[10:44] <snowkrash> well rational
[10:45] <snowkrash> tho i guess most attacks are based on windows computer
[10:45] <snowkrash> hmm ok im off thanks
[10:47] <JediMaster> anyone have any ideas about this plymouthd blocked for more than 120 seconds on boot problem? I can't start up X at all now =(
[10:49] <rannonga> JediMaster: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[10:49] <JediMaster> 13.10
[10:52] <JediMaster> I can see others with similar problems but from 4 years ago =/
[10:53] <JediMaster> X is still stuck at "adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)"
[10:54] <JediMaster> syslog shows nothing much for the last 30 minutes
[10:56] <JediMaster> also can't shutdown or reboot
[10:57] <JediMaster> freezing at the terminal
[10:57] <JediMaster> sysrq keys for REISUB are working though
[10:58] <JediMaster> lol I appear to have fixed it with a random guess: apt-get --reinstall plymouth
[10:59] <mudshrimp> congratulations!
[11:00] <sara1> hello
[11:00] <mudshrimp> hey
[11:05] <JediMaster> actually no, I got one reboot and now it's doing it again, X won't start
[11:13] <slik_> Hello :)
[11:23] <gartral> hey all, I have an odd problem, about 3 days ago I ran and update/upgrade cycle and since then my X session has been a little screwball, I run two displays but when I boot the panels are over-lapped, and it also opens all my apps from the day of the upgrade, which slows down the log-in process and generally causers headaches, how do I fix this?
[11:24] <gartral> forgot to mention, I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit, using an nvidia card with the latest drivers from the Repo
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> gartral: if you boot an older kernel, is it ok?
[11:26] <gartral> ActionParsnip: Nope. this appears to be a config bug, as my user is the only one affected
[11:34] <gartral> omg the joins/parts
[11:36] <niko> !ops chrisgward broken client
[11:37] <ikonia> niko: no problem
[11:37] <gartral> ActionParsnip: I don't know if you saw my post in the flood of join/parts
[11:45] <TerranceWarrior> Why does the default ubuntu scroll up suck so hard?
[11:45] <TerranceWarrior> and what can I do to get around it? a better term?
[11:45] <gartral> TerranceWarrior: what?!
[11:45] <ikonia> TerranceWarrior: what's the actual problem with it
[11:46] <TerranceWarrior> With ircII it's impossible to scroll up. And on a laptop scrolling is very difficult normally to say the least.
[11:47] <gartral> TerranceWarrior: I would recommend irssi, there's a few keyboard shortcut for scrolling
[11:47] <TerranceWarrior> when you hover near the the scroller  , it appears, it disappear, it appears, it dispears, clearly the design was by a drivers guy.
[11:47] <TerranceWarrior> gartral: ok thanks.
[11:47] <TerranceWarrior> how about a better term
[11:47] <TerranceWarrior> ?
[11:48] <gartral> TerranceWarrior: word of advice, stay well away from GUI IRC clients, they all suck </opinion>
[11:48] <TerranceWarrior> right
[11:48] <gartral> TerranceWarrior: try xfce4-term
[11:49] <TerranceWarrior> will installing xfce disable my normal ubuntu settings?
[11:50] <gartral> TerranceWarrior: nope
[11:50] <TerranceWarrior> ok great!
[11:50] <TerranceWarrior> thanks.
[11:50] <gartral> TerranceWarrior: you can always switch between the two at login, too
[11:50] <TerranceWarrior> gartral: ok
[11:51] <gartral> TerranceWarrior: apt-get install xfce4-terminal
[11:51] <TerranceWarrior> gartral: right great. thank you.
[11:51] <TerranceWarrior> bbl
[11:51] <TerranceWarrior> peace gartral!
[11:56] <parapan> jhutchins: hi there . can I bother you for a sec ?
[12:07] <parapan> can someone advice on hot to update grub manually ?
[12:07] <ikonia> parapan: trying the triple boot thing from yesterday ?
[12:07] <parapan> ikonia: yes :d
[12:07] <ikonia> parapan: how did you approach it in the end ?
[12:07] <Rudde> Hi, when in VMware clicking the win-key, why does keyboard shortscuts promt up?
[12:08] <parapan> ikonia: made the install, both systems are booting, but the grub of kali  is in control ..
[12:08] <ikonia> parapan: ok, so what is it you're not clear on based on the discussions from yesterday
[12:08] <parapan> ikonia: I updated kali ...via sudo apt-get upgrade ...works with no problem ..
[12:09] <ikonia> parapan: ahhhh I think I see what's coming next
[12:09] <ikonia> parapan: ubuntu complains it can't update because it can't/doesn't update it's own grub with a kernel update ?
[12:09] <ikonia> (at a guess)
[12:09] <slik_> well Im a new kubuntu user
[12:09] <parapan> ikonia: now, back to ubuntu, made the sudo grub update .....it saw the kali install with no problem .....but ! - when running sudo apt-get upgrade ...it tells me there are no upgrades  ..on the same time the synaptic package manager shows updates ....
[12:10] <ikonia> parapan: hang on - why are you running grub-update on ubuntu ?? if kali-linux is the grub that's installed/in control ?
[12:11] <parapan> ikonia: just figured out that ...I was opening /boot/grub/grub.conf in ubuntu and it's empty ......BUT . . .
[12:11] <slik_> and get the eth0 to pull out an ip add
[12:11] <ghartmann> can't understand all the fuzz about mir and wayland .. I mean .. why wayland users don't like mir
[12:12] <ikonia> parapan: hang on - step back for a moment
[12:12] <slik_> can I get some help please ?
[12:12] <ikonia> parapan: why are you trying to run update-grub on ubuntu if kali-linux is the grub that is on the mbr/in control ?
[12:13] <parapan> ikonia: i have the same OS on a desktop PC and during the boot seq I've checked ..on the dual OS I have ubuntu kernel 3.5.0-45 and in the desktop PC I have the 3.2.-49 ???
[12:14] <ikonia> parapan: ok, but focus on the question I'm asking, "why are you running update-grub on the ubuntu machine, if the kali-linux grub is the one that is in control"
[12:14] <parapan> ikonia: cause I've understood that I have to manually upgrade the grub after each kernel install on each OS
[12:14] <ikonia> parapan: no, you update grub ONLY on the controlling OS
[12:14] <ikonia> parapan: ubuntu has no grub to update
[12:14] <ikonia> (in your example)
[12:15] <parapan> ikonia: K, than I have to revert to the ubuntu install and not kali - that's the one I'm using merely ....
[12:15] <ikonia> parapan: why do you have to change anything ?
[12:15] <ikonia> parapan: what does it matter which grub is installed
[12:16] <parapan> ikonia: not quite sure ...but for the start, the kali es the first OS to boot and not ubuntu - I want to revert that
[12:16] <ikonia> that's just boot order
[12:16] <ikonia> you don't need to change the controlling OS for that
[12:16] <parapan> ikonia: I can edit the grub.conf in kali ?
[12:17] <parapan> ikonia: and what about if I un-install kali at some point ?
[12:17] <ikonia> parapan: never edit that directly, edit the config files in /etc/grub.conf.d (I think from memory) and then update-grub
[12:17] <ikonia> if you remove Kali-linux then your grub config will break and you'll need to put grub back on pointing at your only remaining linux OS
[12:18] <parapan> k and if i do that now, reverting to ubuntu's grub I will not face this issue later ...correct ?
[12:19] <Rudde> How come Alt+Tab don't work in GNOME Classic but worked fine in Unity?
[12:19] <gartral> Rudde: that's a known bug, and the fix is just ass the shortcut for window switching
[12:19] <gartral> add*
[12:19] <gartral> >.>
[12:20] <Rudde> I shecked in system settings it's alredy set there
[12:20] <gartral> odd
[12:22] <parapan> ikonia: so I want to do that now - reverting to the Ubuntu's original grub, I will leran-it and I can do it when installing the third OS . . .
[12:22] <ikonia> parapan: would you like an honest suggestion of how to do what you want to do cleanly and easy - one time only ?
[12:23] <parapan> yes I want - even it's tricky since you end up supporting me for some you don't agree with :D
[12:23] <ikonia> parapan: as it appears to be getting you im quite  a muddle
[12:24] <ikonia> parapan: ok - blank you harddisk - get rid of all partitions (backup any critical data first)
[12:24] <ikonia> parapan: install windows, get it working how you like it.
[12:24] <ikonia> parapan: then install ubuntu - get it working how you like it
[12:24] <ikonia> parapan: then install kali-linux BUT do not install grub as part of the install
[12:24] <ikonia> parapan: from ubuntu run "update-grub"
[12:24] <ikonia> parapan: from that part you will have a sane system,
[12:25] <parapan> ikonia: I see where you're getting - but it's not an option .....I have to work in the mean time, send e-mails, and so on .....cannot redo everything from scratch :(
[12:25] <ikonia> parapan: what is the main OS you use for working ?
[12:25] <ikonia> as in the one you can't live without
[12:25] <parapan> ubuntu ....with virtual w7
[12:26] <ikonia> virtual win7 ? I thought windows was a physical install when we last spoke
[12:27] <parapan> ikonia: that's why I want ubuntu as primary system ...at some point I will uninstall kali - which is for testing purposes and install a freeBSD flavor ....that's the plan anyway .....
[12:27] <in_deep_thought> I am trying to install yasm on ubuntu but the page it tells me to get the tar file from is not available (http://www.tortall.net/projects/yasm/releases/yasm-1.2.0.tar.gz)
[12:27] <ikonia> parapan: it sounds like you would really benifit from just using/installing ubuntu and putting the others in virtulization containers
[12:28] <in_deep_thought> the software center yasm is version 1.1 and I need 1.2
[12:28] <parapan> ikonia: that's why I want to learn how to restore the grub of Ubuntu ...and then manually update the OS's which I don;t quite use ...
[12:28] <in_deep_thought> is there anywhere else I can get it?
[12:28] <ikonia> parapan: grub-install (man grub-install" from ubuntu should explain the syntax
[12:28] <parapan> ikonia: done that with kali ...doesn't work so well ..missing drivers for wireless lan can, and so on ....
[12:28] <ikonia> parapan: if it's virtual there should be no wireless lan
[12:29] <ikonia> parapan: but we can deal with that in #kali-linux if you wanted to try it properly
[12:29] <ikonia> parapan: honeslty, I believe you are creating a problem trying to install OS's this way and swapping and changing, more so when you get to bsd boot loaders
[12:30] <parapan> ikonia: so if I reinstall the grub can I do -it from installed OS correct ? doesn't have to boot from LiveCD or so ....
[12:30] <ikonia> parapan: you have ubunt installed, you can boot into ubuntu, so the grub binary from that OS can be installed safley
[12:32] <gartral> parapan: in the future, you might consider "virtualizing" Kali or any other linux in a Linx Container under Ubuntu, google lxc for instruction
[12:34] <parapan> if I say apt-get purge grub-common .........after that apt-get install grub-pc, next : sudo update-grub, next sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 ?
[12:34] <parapan> ikonia: will that restore the grub to the MBR ?
[12:34] <llutz> MBR would be /dev/sda
[12:35] <ikonia> parapan: it will put a new copy on of the ubuntu grub binary onto the mbr, not restore, (just to vlarify) sda1 is your partition though
[12:35] <agger> hi all, i've got a 12.04 installation and installed updates recently. After reboot, my sound stopped working. aplay  -l lists  Intel Analog/Digital and Nvidia HDMI devices. When I open PulseAudio  volume control, output devices tab, i only get the HDMI interface listed.
[12:35] <ikonia> parapan: why are you removing grub-common ?
[12:35] <agger> Also, aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav as root is audible, whereas as user is not.
[12:36] <parapan> ikonia: it says to purge first the install ? - not to have hooked packages ? .....https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[12:36] <ikonia> let me have a look at that link
[12:36] <ikonia> parapan: you're not purging or re-installing grub
[12:37] <ikonia> parapan: why are you reading that link ?
[12:37] <parapan> ikonia: cause I don;t know how to do-it
[12:37] <parapan> ikonia: so I;ve rearched ho w to install re-install grub2
[12:37] <ikonia> parapan: but you don't want to remove or purge grub, so why are you looking up how to do it
[12:37] <ikonia> parapan: you don't want to re-install grub2 - it's already installed
[12:38] <agger> my anyone with good sound troubleshooting skills can help?
[12:38] <ikonia> parapan: you want to apply the existing grub install from ubuntu to the mbr of the disk
[12:38] <ikonia> parapan: you don't want to remove or purgre grub at all
[12:38] <parapan> ikonia: didn't got this ....as I understood the ubuntu's grub was rewirtten by kali's so ....I've tried to re-install ...as a fresh install
[12:39] <ikonia> parapan: no, the boot sector of the disk was overwritten by kali-linux's grub
[12:39] <ikonia> parapan: ubuntu's grub is not touched, kali-linux cannot see/interact with the ubuntu OS
[12:39] <parapan> ikonia: ok ...got it now
[12:39] <ikonia> parapan: the binaries are still there, the masterboot record of the disk just has kali-linux's grub, not ubuntu's
[12:40] <parapan> ikonia: so how do I apply ubuntu's grub to the MBR ?
[12:40] <ikonia> parapan: so you just want to put the ubuntu grub binary back on the mbr
[12:40] <ikonia> parapan: "grub-install" is the command as I said earlier
[12:40] <parapan> ikonia: without giving the /dev/sda1 location ?
[12:40] <ikonia> parapan: no, sda1 is partition
[12:41] <ikonia> parapan: sda is the "disk" and therefore the mbr
[12:41] <parapan> ikonia: so sudo grub-install /dev/sda ?
[12:42] <ikonia> parapan: I suggest you "man grub-install" first to check the options as I said earlier, but thats the bottom line, yes
[12:43] <puesto8> ola
[12:43] <puesto8> j
[12:46] <agger> anyone can help out with sound troubleshooting pls
[12:47] <fidel> !details | agger
[12:47] <agger> ubuntu 12.04 - rebooted recently, sound stopped working. However: aplay <file.wav> as root works, as user doesn't
[12:48] <parapan> ikonia: should I do it directly from ubuntu's install or from the liveCD ?
[12:48] <grahamsavage> is there a way of reading kindle books under ubuntu?
[12:48] <ikonia> livecd
[12:48] <ikonia> parapan: no reason to use a livcd
[12:48] <agger> Two devices listed by aplay -l: Intel, Nvidia. Pulse volume control shows Nvidia only.
[12:48] <parapan> ikonia: K I'll go for it ...pls keep your fingers crossed for me :D
[12:48] <lucho> hello
[12:49] <ikonia> parapan: pause before doing anything and doubel check before you type
[12:49] <ikonia> parapan: it should be fine
[12:49] <parapan> ikonia: k
[12:50] <agger> details supplied I guess
[12:52] <llutz> grahamsavage: have a look http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-cool-reader-3-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[12:53] <llutz> grahamsavage: if you need to convert .azw into .mobi, use calibre
[12:54] <grahamsavage> ok
[12:54] <grahamsavage> thankyou
[12:55] <llutz> grahamsavage: btw calibre can also be used to read ebooks, but it isn't very comfortable
[13:04] <prkr> Hi All, I am trying to reduce the swappiness of an ubuntu server..
[13:04] <prkr> by default it is 60..
[13:04] <aeon-ltd> ok
[13:04] <prkr> I have changed the /etc/sysctl.conf file to set swappiness to 10
[13:04] <aeon-ltd> ok
[13:04] <prkr> and then to 0
[13:05] <prkr> but still it seems that it is not working
[13:05] <prkr> any ideas please
[13:05] <aeon-ltd> how do you know it's not working?
[13:05] <prkr> on using top.. it is still swapping the processes
[13:06] <aeon-ltd> is there no ram available?
[13:06] <prkr> Ram is only 10% used... rest is free
[13:06] <aeon-ltd> did you restart after changes (though i'm not sure if that's necessary)
[13:07] <prkr> yes ... i did
[13:08] <parapan> ikonia: done the install, grub is of Ubuntu's, kali is booting also .....only a small problem, after restarting from kali, the first boot into ubuntu is in command mode - no graphical ....I make sudo reboot and the second reboot is OK ...
[13:08] <gartral> hey all, I'm having an annoying problem with flash (big surprise), I have a dual-monitor setup with mismatched monitors, and when I try to full-screen a video on my main one this happens http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02242014-080706am.php
[13:09] <ikonia> parapan: that seems odd, not sure what would cause that, look at the boot log and X1 log form ubuntu when it fails
[13:09] <agger> ubuntu 12.04 - updated recently, sound stopped working. However: aplay <file.wav> as root works, as user doesn't
[13:09] <prkr> aeon-ltd: any idea ??
[13:09] <gartral> as you can see, it's on the main monitor, but flash thinks that monitor's resolution is the other one's,ideas for a fix?
[13:09] <parapan> ikonia: Ok, anyway, the update of the OS doens/t work via apt-get ....
[13:10] <ikonia> parapan: explain what doesn't work
[13:10] <aeon-ltd> prkr: no, but if you want to never use swap, just disable the swap partition
[13:10] <aeon-ltd> probably not smart to though
[13:11] <parapan> ikonia: graphical update manager of the OS reports available updates of 54 MB; when doing via terminal : sudo apt-get upgrade ir says: Reading state information... Done The following packages have been kept back:   linux-headers-generic-lts-quantal linux-image-generic-lts-quantal 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[13:11] <prkr> aeon-ltd: this is the client's server, and when i tried "swapoff -a" it was not working... VPS provider has not given access
[13:12] <ikonia> parapan: yes, there are two packages available, but they are not being installed as they are being held back,
[13:13] <jlmarks> Good morning, afternoon or evening! I am on 13.10 and attempting to uninstall a couple of programs, however ubuntu does not think they are installed. (ie: when I "apt-get remove task" it tells me "Package 'task' is not installed, so not removed", however task is still available from the command line) what can I do to remove all last traces of this program? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6986901/
[13:13] <Guest24095> How to install crunch in ubuntu ?? i want to make a wordlist to try crack  my password , so how to install crunch or any other wordlist generator that will work in ubuntu ??
[13:13] <ikonia> Guest24095: looks in the repos if there is a package for it (probably not)
[13:14] <parapan> ikonia: k, but in the graphical I have updates for 3 linux kernels for version 3.5.0. and 2 linux kernel image and headers . . . .
[13:14] <ikonia> parapan: please post the CURRENT output of the command "uname -a" please
[13:14] <llutz> jlmarks: " /usr/local/bin/ ... most like not installed by apt. check "dpkg -S $(which task)"
[13:14] <Guest24095>  <ikonia> Is there any way to get it ???
[13:14] <parapan> Linux gabrielc-lpt 3.5.0-45-generic #68~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 4 16:19:28 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[13:14] <llutz> likely*
[13:15] <ikonia> parapan: ok - so that's your current kernel version, is that what you are expecting to see ?
[13:15] <parapan> ikonia: yes
[13:15] <ikonia> parapan: so why are you looking/expecting kernel updates ?
[13:15] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[13:16] <ikonia> parapan: this is 12.04 ?
[13:16] <Alchimista> hi, i'm in ubuntu 10.10, and my mouseweel is quite jumpy, both on browsers and apps, any change to put it running normall? xinput list-props -> http://pastebin.com/A0zNeUwn
[13:16] <jlmarks> llutz: my output is "dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/bin/task" does that mean I can just delete the binary files?
[13:16] <parapan> ikonia: because in the graphical update manager it reports me the availability to update ....but when running sudo apt-get it says no updates available ...why ?
[13:17] <parapan> ikonia: yeap 12.04 LTS
[13:17] <ikonia> parapan: no, it does show you there are updates available - but they are not installed "2 packages are held back"
[13:17] <Alchimista> oops, 13.10, sorry :S
[13:17] <llutz> jlmarks: it just means, that program wasn't installaed using apt. you may remove that file but there might be more related files in /usr/local, check
[13:17] <ikonia> parapan: try install them from the gui, and you'll probably / should see the same
[13:17] <parapan> ikonia: i'll try now
[13:17] <jlmarks> llutz: ok, thank you much!
[13:18] <Guest24095> help i need to install crunch in ubuntu !!!!
[13:19] <jlmarks> Guest24095: What is "crunch"?
[13:19] <zetheroo> trying to rename a directory via nautilus and the file manager just crashes ... checking out dmesg shows: [187113.585514] nautilus[1887]: segfault at 520000037c ip 00007f595e3d05ad sp 00007fff3734c7f0 error 4 in libgobject-2.0.so.0.3800.1[7f595e39e000+4f000]
[13:19] <parapan> ikonia: nope -it just installed linux-image-3.5.0.-46 .....and requires restart ....
[13:20] <jlmarks> are you talking about crunch wordlist?
[13:20] <Guest24095> a passwort generator
[13:20] <ikonia> parapan: a bit odd
[13:20] <Guest24095> yes
[13:20] <parapan> ikonia: should the package manager uopdates from different server than the apt-get command ?
[13:21] <Guest24095> help plz
[13:21] <ikonia> parapan: it's the same commmand - just with a gui, hence the confusion
[13:22] <parapan> ikonia: I know the same ...but just asking .....anyway, pls let me reboot ...brb
[13:23] <jlmarks> Guest24095: did you download the tar.gz file?
[13:23] <Guest24095> yes  3.5
[13:23] <zetheroo> I can rename folders in any location except for folders within the pictures location
[13:24] <jlmarks> Guest24095: what I did to install it was download the tar.gz file, extract it to a folder. got on my terminal and cd crunch-3.5 into the file
[13:24] <parapan> ikonia: uname -a shows the new kernel 3.5.0.-46 . . . and I had the same issue in kali ......via command line it reported 2 packages are held back .....
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[13:25] <parapan> ikonia: I guess something hangs out in some strage way ...
[13:25] <jlmarks> Guest24095: check your sidechat