| ganglere | ali1234, just got the thunar crash. any extra information I can provide you? | 00:20 |
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| ali1234 | what were you doing with thunar since you started it, up until the crash? | 00:21 |
| ganglere | browsing a samba share | 00:21 |
| ali1234 | particularly any "unusual" things such as very deep folder structures, very long file names, very large number of files in directory... etc? | 00:21 |
| ali1234 | what was the very last thing before it crashed? | 00:22 |
| ganglere | I hit the x, just as all the other reports | 00:22 |
| ganglere | but nothing unusual, just browsed to my media on a nas and watched a show, something I do regularly | 00:22 |
| ali1234 | hmm... so long file names? | 00:23 |
| ali1234 | any special characters or anything like that? | 00:23 |
| ganglere | No special characters, except for a single space | 00:24 |
| ganglere | the path is only 35 characters long | 00:24 |
| ali1234 | do you use tree view? | 00:27 |
| ganglere | shortcuts in the sidebar, detailed list in the main viewer | 00:28 |
| ali1234 | did yo delete any files recently? | 00:30 |
| ali1234 | or move them? | 00:30 |
| ali1234 | (with thunar of course) | 00:30 |
| ganglere | no, just got it to crash again though. no output in the command. anyway to get a verbose debug? | 00:30 |
| ali1234 | if you can reproduce, run it in valgrind please | 00:30 |
| ali1234 | sudo apt-get install valgrind thunar-dbg libglib2.0-0-0-dbg libgtk-2-0-dbg libgtk-3-0-dbg | 00:31 |
| ali1234 | should have been libgtk2.0-0-dbg | 00:32 |
| ali1234 | then killall thunar | 00:32 |
| ali1234 | then: G_SLICE=always-malloc G_DEBUG=gc-friendly valgrind -v --tool=memcheck --num-callers=40 --track-origins=yes --log-file=valgrind.log thunar | 00:32 |
| ali1234 | it will be really slow though | 00:33 |
| ganglere | I was just about to say it hadn't loaded yet... | 00:33 |
| ali1234 | valgrind will log every malloc done by the program, and then every memory access will be checked to make sure it is valid | 00:34 |
| ganglere | not sure if I actually reproduced, but I got this output: | 00:34 |
| ganglere | (thunar:6634): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 684 was not found when attempting to remove it | 00:34 |
| ali1234 | i have seen that too, but it doesn't crash | 00:34 |
| ali1234 | may be related though | 00:35 |
| ganglere | didn't seem like it | 00:35 |
| ali1234 | ==22490== Uninitialised value was created by a stack allocation | 00:35 |
| ali1234 | ==22490== at 0xADFB640: ??? (in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpixman-1.so.0.30.2) | 00:35 |
| ali1234 | i am seeing a lot of this | 00:35 |
| Noskcaj | ali1234, valgrind has a lot of errors on all xfce packages, have you got a folder full of files you can copy from a usb? that's what caused my most recent crash | 00:50 |
| ali1234 | during copying? | 00:51 |
| ali1234 | valgrind always produces errors but most of them are harmless or even intentional | 00:51 |
| Noskcaj | after copying i clicked the X, then error | 00:51 |
| Noskcaj | and ok | 00:51 |
| ali1234 | hmm got some clues from the USB copy | 01:56 |
| Noskcaj | :) | 01:58 |
| ali1234 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6984954/ | 02:03 |
| ali1234 | not sure if those are really errors | 02:04 |
| ali1234 | hmm interesting | 02:07 |
| ali1234 | that first one... filename is an argument - it does wchar_t *wfilename = g_utf8_to_utf16 (filename, -1, NULL, NULL, NULL); and then returns if this is null | 02:08 |
| ali1234 | but somehow filename was null later in the function | 02:08 |
| ali1234 | it never actually nullchecks filename though | 02:08 |
| ali1234 | and also it only happened one time | 02:09 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, Since light-locker-settings has native packaging, why does it have a debian/patches/ folder? | 02:12 |
| ali1234 | oh wait, it's all a big ifdef | 02:17 |
| ali1234 | it never nullchecks filename on !win32 | 02:17 |
| ali1234 | hmm... thumbnailer uses g_list quite a bit | 03:00 |
| ali1234 | something asked it to thumbnail a file with path = NULL, so that's definitely not right | 03:02 |
| ali1234 | hmm there we go, fully reproducable | 03:04 |
| ali1234 | stack | 03:05 |
| ali1234 | hmm... nope, almost certainly a red herring | 03:39 |
| Noskcaj | Another item for U-series, maybe swap from xchat to hexchat (a branch of xchat that is actually maintained) | 03:45 |
| Unit193 | Right. | 03:48 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Of course I've PPA'd latest xfwm4 git head. :P | 05:00 |
| Noskcaj | What other 4.11 parts do we want? (other than garcon, libui, and settings) | 06:04 |
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| zequence | Are you having problems with mis-sized icons in the main menu? | 09:34 |
| === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 | ||
| ochosi | zequence: there was a bug with that in xubuntu a longer while ago | 12:23 |
| slickymaster-job | hey ochosi, morning | 12:24 |
| slickymaster-job | did you saw jjfrv8' comments on the xfdesktop preferences? | 12:24 |
| ochosi | have lost track of that a bit though | 12:25 |
| slickymaster-job | I believe he pinged you last saturday on that | 12:25 |
| slickymaster-job | I'm asking because I wanted to know if you're ok with what has done, so I can correct the link in xub -docs | 12:26 |
| ochosi | yes, but i was ill (and now my internet connection is soooo lame again...) | 12:26 |
| ochosi | slickymaster-job: you can correct that link anyways | 12:26 |
| slickymaster-job | hope you're feeling better now | 12:26 |
| ochosi | yeah, a bit | 12:26 |
| slickymaster-job | ok, I'll make MP tonight | 12:26 |
| ochosi | link to here: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/4.11/start | 12:27 |
| slickymaster-job | this weekend has been oddly in sickbay | 12:27 |
| slickymaster-job | you and Unit193 | 12:27 |
| ochosi | xfdesktop will hopefully receive the patch to point to this page in xubuntu too | 12:27 |
| slickymaster-job | I'll do it then | 12:27 |
| ochosi | yeah, well it has been kinda springish here, so that's the perfect time for a small influenza epidemic | 12:28 |
| slickymaster-job | ttyl | 12:28 |
| ochosi | yup, seeya | 12:28 |
| bluesabre | even freenode has been unwell | 12:50 |
| ochosi | indeed | 12:50 |
| ochosi | and hey bluesabre | 12:50 |
| ochosi | wasn't able to catch you much this weekend due to both illnesses | 12:50 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: I like the new panel layout, but I'd be in favor of adding the action buttons back | 12:50 |
| bluesabre | that's cool | 12:51 |
| knome | bluesabre, come on :P | 12:51 |
| bluesabre | I wasn't around much myself | 12:51 |
| knome | bluesabre, as if you didn't have time to whine about that earlier | 12:51 |
| bluesabre | lol | 12:51 |
| bluesabre | I even approved it | 12:51 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: you mean *after* voting on it and all, you'd now be "in favor of" ? :D | 12:51 |
| knome | yeah, so too late now.. ;) | 12:51 |
| bluesabre | :D | 12:51 |
| ochosi | i'd prefer not to open this pandora's box | 12:51 |
| ochosi | everyone will have suggestions and stuff | 12:51 |
| bluesabre | but I do like the new amounts of free space | 12:51 |
| ochosi | yeah, the idea is to mention that you can easily customize the panel in the slideshow | 12:52 |
| knome | i do have to agree with sean though ;) | 12:52 |
| ochosi | (we're working on that now) | 12:52 |
| bluesabre | its really a much cleaner layout | 12:52 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, whatever ;) | 12:52 |
| knome | i didn't notice this shortcoming before i ran trusty on vbox ;) | 12:52 |
| knome | fortunately it's an easy thing to change! | 12:52 |
| * knome hides | 12:52 | |
| bluesabre | :D | 12:52 |
| ochosi | we can revisit that for T+1 | 12:53 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: I saw the weirdness with a second monitor sitting in the same spot as the primary monitor with the greeter | 12:53 |
| bluesabre | so I can look into fixing that now | 12:53 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: that'd be nice, but i don't think it has to be a primary concern. or is this a setup you can generate using xfce4-display-settings? | 12:53 |
| bluesabre | none of that matters, its a default x config that doesn't depend on any user's settings | 12:54 |
| ochosi | yeah, but how is that handled nowadays that xorg.conf is dead? | 12:54 |
| * ochosi is a bit clueless as to that | 12:54 | |
| bluesabre | shut down your computer, attach a tv, turn it on, bam! | 12:54 |
| bluesabre | :) | 12:54 |
| bluesabre | basically everything is set at x position 0 | 12:55 |
| * ochosi doesn't have what they called "tv" in the old days | 12:55 | |
| ochosi | beh, that blows | 12:55 |
| bluesabre | using the native monitor resolution | 12:55 |
| ochosi | so we need to handle displays ourselves in the greeter | 12:55 |
| bluesabre | I think I know a hack-tastic way around it | 12:55 |
| ochosi | we could steal some of the xfsettingsd code | 12:55 |
| ochosi | ok | 12:55 |
| bluesabre | since its minor, I'm for doing something that just works | 12:56 |
| ochosi | ok | 12:56 |
| ochosi | sounds good to me | 12:56 |
| ochosi | we can do better multi-head handling in 2.0 | 12:56 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 12:56 |
| bluesabre | that will be fun | 12:56 |
| bluesabre | ... not | 12:56 |
| ochosi | hehe | 12:56 |
| ochosi | indeed | 12:56 |
| bluesabre | anyway, gotta head off to work | 12:56 |
| ochosi | okay, seeya later then | 12:56 |
| bluesabre | hopefully I'll get something accomplished tonight | 12:56 |
| ochosi | btw, prolly won't be around tonight :/ | 12:56 |
| bluesabre | np | 12:57 |
| ochosi | but i can test tomorrow | 12:57 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: thanks for the prefs! looks great and will be merged to docs.xfce as soon as i can | 13:07 |
| ochosi | slickymaster-job: ^ | 13:07 |
| slickymaster-job | thanks ochosi | 13:08 |
| slickymaster-job | lunch time. bbl -> | 13:10 |
| ochosi | slickymaster-job: bon appetit | 13:12 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8, slickymaster-job: xfdesktop4.11 docs are all complete and here now: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/4.11/start | 13:19 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8, slickymaster-job: congrats and thanks a lot for your hard work on this! it's very much appreciated | 13:19 |
| zequence | ochosi: Oh? Could you point me to the fix? | 13:42 |
| ochosi | sorry, as i said i've lost track of this issue a (longer) while ago | 13:44 |
| zequence | ochosi: Was it during this development cycle? | 13:44 |
| ochosi | but i remember us being affected by it | 13:44 |
| ochosi | i thought it was fixed in xfce upstream | 13:44 |
| ochosi | (but i might be even wrong about that) | 13:44 |
| ochosi | fwiw, xubuntu uses whiskermenu by default now | 13:44 |
| zequence | We're having this problem right now. Some icons are the wrong size | 13:44 |
| ochosi | and i try to provide png icons of the correct size for every app we ship, so at least by default it should be ok | 13:45 |
| ochosi | iirc the bug affected xpm icons | 13:45 |
| zequence | Ok. I'll look around a bit | 13:46 |
| knome | hey slickymaster-job | 15:04 |
| knome | slickymaster-job, i updated the main ubiquity-slideshow-branch | 15:04 |
| slickymaster-job | haven't saw it yet, will do it in a minute | 15:05 |
| knome | well we did some cool things with ochosi ;) | 15:05 |
| slickymaster-job | I tried to pinged this weekend but I was only able to access freenode yesterday night | 15:06 |
| slickymaster-job | as I have now, let me ask you something, in the xub -docs changelog there is "xubuntu-docs (14.04.1) saucy; urgency=medium" and also "xubuntu-docs (14.04.0) trusty; urgency=medium" as titles of changes made | 15:08 |
| slickymaster-job | knome: so my question is what is the one to be used? | 15:08 |
| knome | .1 | 15:08 |
| knome | that should say "UNRELEASED" instead of saucy | 15:09 |
| slickymaster-job | presently is saying saucy, not UNRELEASED | 15:09 |
| knome | as i said, *should* say... *instead* of saucy :) | 15:09 |
| knome | feel free to edit that if you are doing other changes. | 15:10 |
| knome | basically, that status should make it obvious which one you should edit | 15:10 |
| knome | if you use some logic... | 15:10 |
| knome | the version numbers are xx.xx.y | 15:10 |
| knome | where xx.xx is the release number | 15:10 |
| knome | and .y is the -docs release count for that release | 15:11 |
| slickymaster-job | alright, tonight I'm going to make a MP correcting the link to the xfdesktop docs and rolling back that initial paragraph of the Command-Line chapter and I'll use the correct one | 15:11 |
| knome | and version numbers should always match the released status | 15:11 |
| knome | so it should be obvious that 14.04.1 <-> saucy is wrong | 15:11 |
| slickymaster-job | knome: I'll be using "xubuntu-docs (14.04.1) Unreleases; urgency=medium" -> Is that right? I'm also including in the question the urgency level | 15:12 |
| knome | make it UNRELEASED (with that case) | 15:13 |
| slickymaster-job | ok, and what about the urgency level? | 15:13 |
| knome | the urgency level is what docs packages in debian tend to have nowadays | 15:13 |
| knome | used to be low | 15:13 |
| slickymaster-job | medium? | 15:13 |
| knome | yep | 15:13 |
| knome | that's fine | 15:13 |
| slickymaster-job | I'm enlightened. Let me go and check the ubiquity slideshow :) | 15:13 |
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| slickymaster-job | knome: slide 01-desktop.xml | 15:30 |
| slickymaster-job | isn't the font size quite small? | 15:31 |
| knome | quite. | 15:32 |
| slickymaster-job | I mean the font in the text that describes the top panel | 15:32 |
| knome | yes. | 15:32 |
| knome | compare it to the text on the panel | 15:33 |
| knome | yeaaah, it's a tad smaller | 15:33 |
| slickymaster-job | another queastion, 03_personalize.html the space left blank, is it supposed to later have any image added» | 15:33 |
| knome | yep | 15:33 |
| slickymaster-job | more than a tad | 15:33 |
| knome | not really more :P | 15:34 |
| knome | or you are seeing something i'm not | 15:34 |
| knome | do you have problems reading it? | 15:34 |
| slickymaster-job | I'm having domr difficulties in reading it | 15:34 |
| slickymaster-job | s/domr/some | 15:34 |
| knome | right | 15:35 |
| knome | i'll look at it after beta | 15:35 |
| knome | the current one is uploaded | 15:35 |
| slickymaster-job | the same goes to the the apps <list> in the 04_defaultapps.html slide | 15:35 |
| slickymaster-job | the same about the font size | 15:35 |
| knome | but the application "paths" always were that size | 15:36 |
| slickymaster-job | other than that, I think it's great, and your initial intention has been fulfilled, the slideshow has been completely revamped | 15:37 |
| slickymaster-job | I do like it | 15:37 |
| GridCube | :) | 15:37 |
| slickymaster-job | you and ochosi are to be truly congratulated | 15:38 |
| slickymaster-job | hey GridCube | 15:38 |
| GridCube | hey | 15:39 |
| slickymaster-job | knome: FYI https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/trusty/+pots/desktop-guide/fi/+translate (92,896%) | 16:36 |
| knome | i know | 16:36 |
| knome | bbl | 16:55 |
| sergio-br2 | hey ochosi | 17:00 |
| ochosi | hey sergio-br2 | 17:01 |
| sergio-br2 | fine? | 17:03 |
| ochosi | yeah, finally a bit better today | 17:03 |
| ochosi | i pushed a webapps branch, maybe you already noticed | 17:03 |
| ochosi | (or maybe i mentioned it, not sure with all the netsplits) | 17:03 |
| sergio-br2 | i will see | 17:03 |
| sergio-br2 | i'm doing the mimes/96 | 17:04 |
| ochosi | anyway, you asked me something and i couldn't reply because of the netsplits and the illness | 17:04 |
| ochosi | but now i've forgotten the question... :> | 17:04 |
| sergio-br2 | and there are some mimes in 128 that are a little different of others, in others folders | 17:04 |
| ochosi | right, which ones? | 17:05 |
| sergio-br2 | like text-html.svg, there is a folded sheet | 17:05 |
| sergio-br2 | this detail, there is no in 6 | 17:05 |
| sergio-br2 | in 64 or 48 | 17:05 |
| ochosi | (frankly, i haven't taken care of mimes >64) | 17:06 |
| sergio-br2 | so, what's the normal behavior of these mime? | 17:06 |
| ochosi | (i was totally exhausted after doing all the 64px ones and trying to somewhat fix the other sizes) | 17:06 |
| ochosi | yeah, that's the "old" look/style | 17:07 |
| ochosi | previously all sheets had that folded effect | 17:07 |
| ochosi | then upstream switched, so i also switched | 17:07 |
| ochosi | that was also a lot of work | 17:07 |
| sergio-br2 | ah, ok, so i have to change in 128? | 17:07 |
| ochosi | there are still some small inconsistencies in smaller sizes i think | 17:07 |
| ochosi | ideally yes, but it's not overly important | 17:07 |
| sergio-br2 | ok | 17:08 |
| sergio-br2 | i didn't know what folder to use as example | 17:08 |
| sergio-br2 | in 96 | 17:08 |
| sergio-br2 | so i can finish mimes/96, having at least all same icons in mimes/128 | 17:09 |
| ochosi | 48 is a good example i think | 17:12 |
| ochosi | ok, great | 17:13 |
| pleia2 | jjfrv8: not sure if you got an answer, I just saw in my backlog - docs are US english, they are translated to en_UK en_AU etc | 18:17 |
| pleia2 | I met a tech writer at SCaLE12x this weekend who wants to help with our docs, hopefully he'll drop me an email so I can connect you two | 18:17 |
| slickymaster-job | knome: https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/trusty/+pots/desktop-guide/pt/+translate -> 100% eh eh eh :P | 18:40 |
| slickymaster-job | bbl -> | 18:40 |
| ali1234 | ok so i talked to the gnome people about glib crashes | 20:33 |
| ali1234 | it was suggested this could be caused by allocating with g_slice and then freeing with g_free, or the reverse | 20:34 |
| ali1234 | thunar uses both g_slice_free and g_free a lot so this seems entirely possible that someone used the wrong one somewhere | 20:35 |
| === slickyma1ter is now known as slickymaster | ||
| ali1234 | xfce bug 9581 | 22:31 |
| ubottu | xfce bug 9581 in general "Thunar segmentation fault" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9581 | 22:31 |
| ali1234 | hmm :/ | 22:31 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: we got 2 important upstream fixes for abiword, what do you suggest to do? | 23:32 |
| brainwash | this whole "ubuntu <-> debian <-> upstream" thingy can be so annoying sometimes | 23:36 |
| brainwash | bug 1261203 | 23:39 |
| ubottu | bug 1261203 in abiword (Ubuntu) "Abiword top ruler hidden by gray area on first open" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1261203 | 23:39 |
| brainwash | and bug 1262375 | 23:39 |
| ubottu | bug 1262375 in abiword (Ubuntu) "abiword crashed with SIGABRT in FV_UnixSelectionHandles::FV_UnixSelectionHandles() saving as PDF file" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1262375 | 23:39 |
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