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| xnox | cjwatson: is there any way to run memtest on an uefi based machine? | 00:07 |
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| xnox | or should i force it booting with bios? (not sure if it can) | 00:07 |
| psusi | xnox, there was a multiboot build of memtest iirc... maybe grub-efi can load a multiboot image? | 00:11 |
| cjwatson | memtest upstream isn't willing to build both bios and uefi support into the same version, afaict | 00:13 |
| cjwatson | so I think the answer is no | 00:13 |
| cjwatson | multiboot might let you start the binary, but I don't think it makes it work :-) | 00:14 |
| psusi | is there a uefi build of memtest then? | 00:18 |
| cjwatson | I don't think so :( | 00:21 |
| cjwatson | not one I've seen anyway, been a while since I cared to look | 00:21 |
| xnox | cjwatson: http://www.memtest86.com/download.htm appears to claim uefi support. I'll try that one out. | 00:30 |
| cjwatson | ok ... | 00:30 |
| xnox | cjwatson: blimey, it has bling and 3d mouse pointer and everything. | 00:42 |
| xnox | cjwatson: it's an efi executable by the looks of things. | 00:42 |
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| xnox | =(((( errors are popping up.... | 00:47 |
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| hallyn | slangasek: hi, regarding the move of OVMF.fd. Does that require a Replaces: ? | 03:47 |
| hallyn | Or is it ok bc it's from the same source pkg? | 03:47 |
| hallyn | no i guess it'll need it. that's for tomorrow i think | 03:56 |
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| hallyn | slangasek: d'oh, nm - I was looking at the wrong version. I see you did it. sorry. | 04:02 |
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| slangasek | hallyn: it does require replaces: - but see mjt's request to put the symlink in the ovmf package | 04:14 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:38 |
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| RAOF | pitti: Good morning! | 06:01 |
| ion | that | 06:06 |
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| Unit193 | mvo: Hello. | 07:11 |
| mvo | hey Unit193 - uhhh, I still have a upload that needs to be done, right? | 07:11 |
| mvo | (sorry!) | 07:12 |
| Unit193 | mvo: Just needed to make sure a desktop file was fit for the package, yep: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1060543 | 07:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1060543 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Additional Drivers is not discoverable in Quantal" [Critical,In progress] | 07:12 |
| Unit193 | (Anywho, shower now) | 07:15 |
| pitti | infinity, slangasek: FYI, I changed the ppc64el tests to run with apt clone; so no aufs/overlayfs any more | 07:28 |
| Mirv | zyga: you should find bug #1282257 fixed now with 12.04 + SDK PPA | 07:29 |
| ubottu | bug 1282257 in qtchooser (Ubuntu) "qt4 and qt5 dev tools can't be installed together on 12.04 from the ubuntu-sdk-team PPA" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1282257 | 07:29 |
| darkxst | xnox, bug 1284496: any idea what is causing that "half" gear, its surely not GNOME | 08:07 |
| ubottu | bug 1284496 in casper (Ubuntu) "Booting the Ubuntu GNOME live DE from the advanced boot menu results in a largely unusable DE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1284496 | 08:07 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:24 |
| ion | that | 08:29 |
| zyga | Mirv: thank you | 08:32 |
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| pitti | doko: I fixed python3.4's autopkgtest to also work in containers (i. e. on ppc64el): http://paste.ubuntu.com/6993709/ | 10:27 |
| pitti | doko: do you want me to upload that, or do you just want to stage it in the Debian VCS? | 10:27 |
| pitti | doko: same problems/fix on 2.7 and 3.3, I can prepare and test debdiffs if you want | 10:28 |
| doko | pitti, would like to fix it in debian. will take your patch, and stgraber is scared by python anyway ... | 10:36 |
| pitti | doko: stgraber? :-) | 10:37 |
| pitti | doko: oh, I'm not planning to ask for a freeze exception for this; it's irrelevant for beta-1, I'm just walking through the ppc64el failures | 10:38 |
| doko | he has a cold ;p | 10:38 |
| pitti | doko: I'll prepare/test corresponding patches for 2.7 and 3.3 and hand them to you then, ok? | 10:39 |
| doko | pitti, yes, that would be nice. can you change this for the two other tests as well? | 10:40 |
| pitti | doko: sorry, which two other tests? | 10:40 |
| doko | ahh, only in 2.7 and 3.3 | 10:41 |
| pitti | doko: in 3.4 there's just testsuite and testsuite-dbg | 10:41 |
| doko | yep, should be added there. using this to catch progressions | 10:41 |
| doko | applied for 3.4 locally | 10:42 |
| pitti | doko: ah, I see the "failing-tests" in 3.3; yes, will apply to those as well of course | 10:43 |
| pitti | doko: these aren't in 3.4, so I didn't know what you mean at first | 10:44 |
| doko | pitti, now added in 3.4 | 10:55 |
| pitti | doko: thanks; I confirmed that it still works in qemu, too | 10:56 |
| pitti | doko: btw, would you mind fixing Vcs-* for python3.4? the ones at http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/python3.4.html don't work any more | 11:04 |
| doko | ohh, not yet created | 11:05 |
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| pitti | doko: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/python2.7.lxc-autopkgtest.debdiff and http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/python3.3.lxc-autopkgtest.debdiff | 11:25 |
| MacSlow | mhall119, hey there... do we have a developer-doc publishing process? I'm asking because I want know where to put my developer-docs for UbuntuTouch notifications. | 11:32 |
| MacSlow | mhall119, or can I just use the wiki as usual | 11:32 |
| doko | pitti, thanks, applied | 11:34 |
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| xnox | pitti: so i did a mechanical port of ofono-scripts from python2 to python3. https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu/trusty/ofono/python3/+merge/208117 and it seems to mostly work. | 11:57 |
| xnox | pitti: can you test it a bit more? i don't quite know how to drive them and/or what the expected results should be. | 11:57 |
| pitti | xnox: oh, I'm currently at porting them | 12:00 |
| pitti | xnox: yes, the mechanical import is overzealous | 12:00 |
| pitti | I want to keep them bilingual to submit them to upstream | 12:01 |
| pitti | (I assigned the bug to me earlier) | 12:01 |
| pitti | xnox: yes, I'll test them | 12:01 |
| pitti | xnox: did you send anything upstream already? AFAICS there is only the ML, no bug tracker | 12:05 |
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| pitti | xnox: I'll send my formatted patches, just want to refer to your post if you did already | 12:06 |
| xnox | pitti: nah, i didn't send it through. | 12:06 |
| xnox | pitti: i was not convinced about keeping them bilingual. | 12:06 |
| pitti | might be more palatable for upstream though, and not hard to do | 12:07 |
| xnox | pitti: looking at the port however, adding "from __future__ import print_function" below all shebangs should be sufficient to keep them bilingual. | 12:07 |
| pitti | I didn't do that, I just converted the few examples of print "foo", e to print("foo %s" % e) | 12:08 |
| pitti | (in the except: clauses); everywhere else it was already ok | 12:08 |
| xnox | pitti: also a few scripts used pygobject, so i've ported that go gi | 12:08 |
| xnox | pitti: i see =) fair enough. | 12:08 |
| pitti | *nod* | 12:08 |
| xnox | pitti: i think in like apparmor, i kept compat from 2.3 - 3.2 by using sys.stdout.write("%s\n" % foo) | 12:09 |
| xnox | but that was pain =) | 12:09 |
| pitti | xnox: yeah, I usually do that to replace print >> sys.stderr, "..." | 12:09 |
| pitti | i. e. sys.stderr.write("...\n") | 12:10 |
| xnox | yeap. | 12:10 |
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| OdyX | tkamppeter: I've uploaded cups-filters 1.0.46-1 and cups 1.7.1-6 to unstable. They both have code to migrate the LOAD_LP_MODULES handling to cups-filters where they belong and there's quite a bunch of work for the systemd socket activation + exit-on-idle (which I took from you, but renamed according to upstream feedback). I'm interested in merging reasonable patches for the upstart support in Debian (although I have hard time seeing who would r | 12:20 |
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| pitti | xnox: it seems lp:~phablet-team/ofono/ubuntu is the official branch? | 12:37 |
| xnox | pitti: i dunno =) but looks like it might be. | 12:38 |
| pitti | rsalveti: ok, now I'm confused :) | 12:41 |
| xnox | pitti: i'd ask sergiusens =) | 12:41 |
| pitti | so confused that I'm even pinging the wrong person | 12:41 |
| pitti | sergiusens: so now I'm confused; I did the py3 port against git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/network/ofono/ofono.git | 12:42 |
| pitti | sergiusens: and I'm about to port it to lp:~phablet-team/ofono/ubuntu | 12:42 |
| sergiusens | pitti, we moved to git to share with jolla | 12:42 |
| pitti | sergiusens: (older version, packaging changes, and I want to sneak in a fix for making it possible to purge ofono-phonesim-autostart) | 12:42 |
| pitti | sergiusens: so what is that github branch? | 12:43 |
| sergiusens | pitti, and have something that syncs in to our bzr branch | 12:43 |
| tkamppeter | OdyX, great. For Upstart the main problem is bug 1276713, I hope, xnox can help here. | 12:43 |
| ubottu | bug 1276713 in upstart "upstart socket activation for cups" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1276713 | 12:43 |
| sergiusens | pitti, that github branch is the ofono/ril spinoff (awe is trying to keep the code sane to propose an upstream merge sometime) | 12:43 |
| pitti | sergiusens: but apparently our packaging branch isn't based off that rilmodem github branch? at least our packaging branch doesn't have test/rilmodem/ | 12:44 |
| OdyX | tkamppeter: ideally, prepare these patches in a master-ubuntu branch that has the current master branch merged; I'd review and include them | 12:45 |
| pitti | sergiusens: so you need the tests ported (and extended to cover test/rilmodem/) against that github branch, plus backporting the test to our bzr packaging branch? | 12:46 |
| sergiusens | pitti, one sec, looking for the documentation for this (it's a big sync mess) | 12:47 |
| OdyX | tkamppeter: I've also done the same patch replacement than you did for -5ubuntu3 | 12:47 |
| sergiusens | pitti, lp:~phablet-team/ofono/rilmodem that's where the github repo is imported to | 12:55 |
| sergiusens | I'm plus 1 for an ofono-ril source package; but you need to take that to rsalveti ;) | 12:55 |
| pitti | sergiusens: ok, so I'll port the bits to the github branch and do a pull request; then, how does this get into the packaging branch? | 12:59 |
| sergiusens | pitti, and this is the https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/ofono/ubuntu | 12:59 |
| sergiusens | packaging | 13:00 |
| sergiusens | pitti, this may be a bit outdated, but goes over the flow https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1Sigl_2iJyNc7VDC3HMVylSEDRLGoKncVAMNAhkicqW8/edit#heading=h.myx0y9f6p5ah | 13:01 |
| pitti | sergiusens: ok, thanks; I'll look a that after lunch | 13:03 |
| sergiusens | pitti, in any case; if you make the pull request on github, awe and rsalveti will make it land into the archives | 13:06 |
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| cjwatson | Hm. Is there really no way to throw an exception from a finally block in Vala? | 13:19 |
| cjwatson | That's less than helpful when your finally block consists of things that might fail ... | 13:19 |
| * cjwatson redesigns a bit | 13:26 | |
| tkd | hm, i'm trying to track down the source of a SIGABRT in ldconfig (saucy), but the binary is stripped and the libc6-dbg package no longer ships the symbols for /sbin/ldconfig.real. is this intentional? | 13:43 |
| mhall119 | MacSlow|lunch: API docs? | 13:54 |
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| MacSlow | mhall119, yes... API/guideline docs | 14:20 |
| kgunn | doko: ping | 14:26 |
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| mhall119 | MacSlow: you can publish them using the JSON API if can get them in the right format | 14:38 |
| mhall119 | MacSlow: are they qdoc? | 14:38 |
| MacSlow | mhall119, ehm... nope | 14:38 |
| MacSlow | mhall119, what's a good example of how that should look like... and can it deal with images... as pure text would be a bit "dry" :) | 14:39 |
| mhall119 | MacSlow: no image support yet, I need to learn ceph or whatever we use internally | 14:40 |
| MacSlow | mhall119, old / NotifyOSD docs are https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD and I kind of assume knowledge of that and mainly point out differences, provide examples... it's not written like plain API doc as that would be just replicating libnotify's doc. | 14:43 |
| MacSlow | mhall119, but I can see how far I can get with that JSON API stuff | 14:43 |
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| MacSlow | mhall119, another "issue" is the fact that we don't have QML-bindings for notifications yet. So it doesn't blend well with the regular SDK-doc | 14:46 |
| mhall119 | MacSlow: ah, ok, those aren't really "API Docs" the way I think of them | 14:47 |
| mhall119 | MacSlow: really the only think we'd want in the API docs website is QML bindings API docs | 14:48 |
| MacSlow | mhall119, so would a dedicated wiki-page be sufficient then? | 14:48 |
| mhall119 | yeah, I think so | 14:48 |
| mhall119 | this doesn't look like is for app developer consumption for the most part | 14:48 |
| MacSlow | mhall119, ok... at least I know where to go once we have QML-bindings | 14:49 |
| mhall119 | yup | 14:49 |
| mhall119 | and we would very much like to get those QML bindings :) | 14:49 |
| MacSlow | mhall119, notifications are meant to be used by 3rd-party developers | 14:49 |
| MacSlow | :) | 14:49 |
| pitti | sergiusens: ok, sent https://github.com/rilmodem/ofono/pull/56 | 14:50 |
| mhall119 | MacSlow: right, but 3rd party developers don't care about the spacing inside the bubble or how they are stacked on screen | 14:50 |
| MacSlow | mhall119, still they want to be able to trigger notifications... so they need some guidance/examples to copy&paste from :) | 14:51 |
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| sergiusens | pitti, fwiw I'm ok with py3 only | 15:05 |
| sergiusens | pitti, out of curiosity, you don't need to import print_function anymore for py2? | 15:06 |
| pitti | sergiusens: in py2 it's just a statement which prints a tuple with a single element :) | 15:06 |
| sergiusens | ah | 15:06 |
| pitti | or rather, just a parenthesized expression, not a tuple | 15:07 |
| pitti | sergiusens: which is why print(a, b) doesn't work (looks odd) in py2, and thus I avoided that syntax | 15:07 |
| pitti | sergiusens: and replaced it with "foo %s" % exception | 15:07 |
| sergiusens | ok, that works for me | 15:07 |
| cjwatson | I still prefer using print_function anyway | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Since I have nothing that cares about pre-2.6 any more | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | (And, honestly, I'd be quite surprised if anyone else here *really* did) | 15:15 |
| doko | pitti: gobject-introspection should run autreconf | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | Well, aside from launchpad-buildd. Hopefully that'll be fixed soon...ish | 15:16 |
| doko | checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf64ppc) supports shared libraries... no | 15:16 |
| pitti | doko: yes, sorry; that's done in -3, I thought it already imported -3 but LP didn't yet | 15:17 |
| pitti | doko: I'll sync -3 once it's imported, until then it'll get stuck in -proposed | 15:18 |
| kgunn | doko: i understand you might be a good person to talk to about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/valgrind/+bug/1284653 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1284653 in valgrind (Ubuntu) "valgrind packages ouf of sync with current glibc version (2.19)" [Undecided,New] | 15:18 |
| kgunn | just shew me away if its something you're already working on... | 15:19 |
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| slangasek | pitti: apt-clone> ok, cool. Are the failed ppc64el tests going to be re-run? | 15:38 |
| slangasek | doko: can you please take a look at the valgrind bug kgunn mentions above? | 15:38 |
| doko | slangasek, sure, might be tomorrow | 15:39 |
| kgunn | doko: appreciate it....our ci is blocked until then...thanks | 15:39 |
| slangasek | doko: if this is blocking CI, we need to get it addressed today. Do you know if this should be fixable with a valgrind rebuild? (seems unlikely to me) | 15:40 |
| doko | ave to look | 15:40 |
| pitti | slangasek: I re-ran a lot of them already, but if I missed some I'm happy to retry more | 15:47 |
| pitti | slangasek: I didn't really see any which failed specifically for overlayfs | 15:47 |
| pitti | slangasek: I retried upstart, eglibc, and some usual suspects | 15:47 |
| slangasek | pitti: ok, so the latest runs of https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest%20ppc64el/job/trusty-adt-coreutils-ppc64el/ were done with the new setup? | 15:51 |
| pitti | slangasek: right | 15:51 |
| slangasek | ok, thanks | 15:51 |
| pitti | slangasek: as I said, the failures are independent of the overlay | 15:51 |
| pitti | slangasek: we'll probably just drop these two tests, if they don't work in LXC; this is already just a subset of the upstream tests anyway | 15:52 |
| pitti | slangasek: I fixed some 5 other tests yesterday and today, but I can't do that single-handedly | 15:52 |
| pitti | slangasek: FYI, I fixed the python{2.7,3.3,3.4} issues, doko committed the patch to Debian; so the next upload should fix those | 16:01 |
| slangasek | pitti: spiff | 16:01 |
| pitti | slangasek: also, there's quite a lot of failures which are due to nonexisting packages, such as valgrind or odbc | 16:01 |
| pitti | I guess these already count as "real" problems | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | mpt: your addition of the milestones adds empty space in the graph for the future milestones, is that intended? | 16:02 |
| pitti | slangasek: I haven't yet walked through all of the failures, just perhaps 1/4; most failures are indeed due to missing dependencies, not really ppc specific (aside from the uninstallabilities) | 16:02 |
| pitti | slangasek: so generally this is looking mostly good | 16:02 |
| slangasek | pitti: valgrind would need porting, and tests should probably do something sensible on architectures where it doesn't exist | 16:02 |
| pitti | slangasek: ah, ok | 16:03 |
| slangasek | pitti: what's the odbc problem? | 16:03 |
| slangasek | unixodbc is certainly available | 16:03 |
| pitti | e. g. http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest%20ppc64el/job/trusty-adt-psqlodbc-ppc64el/4/console | 16:03 |
| pitti | E: Package 'odbc-postgresql' has no installation candidate | 16:03 |
| pitti | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/167155126/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-ppc64el.psqlodbc_1%3A09.02.0100-2ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 16:04 |
| pitti | test failures | 16:04 |
| pitti | psqlodbcw.so' : file not found | 16:04 |
| pitti | or rather, some build failure | 16:04 |
| slangasek | pitti: ah, well, the problem is trying to run the autopkgtest for a package which has itself not been built for the arch :) | 16:04 |
| pitti | right | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | .so file not found> /me guesses out-of-date libtool macros without even looking at the log :) | 16:06 |
| pitti | cjwatson: *nod* | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | Grr, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558620 is annoying | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 558620 in introspection "Add default values" [Enhancement,Assigned] | 16:07 |
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| doko | slangasek, valgrind uploaded, untested. afk now until the late evening | 16:20 |
| slangasek | doko: ok, thanks | 16:28 |
| pitti | YokoZar: is there any progress with getting 1.6 out of -proposed? AFAIK that required some hinting in britney? | 16:28 |
| pitti | slangasek: e. g. the exim4 one is easy, just missing dependency; exactly the same problem in http://ci.debian.net/data/unstable-amd64/packages/e/exim4/2014-02-22.log | 16:32 |
| * pitti goes to fix and file a bug to Debian | 16:32 | |
| seb128 | hum, why is britney (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#empathy) saying | 16:32 |
| seb128 | out of date on ppc64el: empathy, empathy-dbg, mcp-account-manager-goa, nautilus-sendto-empathy (from 3.8.6-0ubuntu4) | 16:32 |
| seb128 | where | 16:32 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/3.8.6-0ubuntu4 | 16:32 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/3.8.6-0ubuntu5 | 16:33 |
| seb128 | it's depwait on ppc64el on both versions | 16:33 |
| pitti | so out-of-date sounds quite right? | 16:33 |
| cjwatson | britney's still looking at the bootstrap archive for its "before" state | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | I mean, the pre-rebuild archive | 16:34 |
| seb128 | so it needs an overwrite? | 16:34 |
| xnox | cjwatson: shouldn't that be reverted now... | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | No, it means it used to build before we rebuilt the world and now doesn't | 16:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, well, the error suggests it think it's a regression and is blocking it due to that | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | So this is actually one of the things it *should* be catching IMO | 16:35 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, it briefly built when we changed the arch lists from a limited set to "all", but that created uninstallable binaries (depending in qtdeclarative) | 16:36 |
| xnox | cjwatson: i think it's a false positive, as the chain of dependencies gained a depwait on qml. | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | Oh, mind you, gnome-control-center-signon ... yeah | 16:36 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, we reverted to the old archs list | 16:36 |
| seb128 | but we might have binaries leftover to delete then? | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | No | 16:36 |
| * seb128 wants qt5.2 | 16:36 | |
| cjwatson | Anyway, infinity said he was going to look through the list of differences ASAP and check whether anything needed to be saved to avoid rebootstrapping | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | Because it's not just proposed-migration, the chroots are still pointed at the pre-rebuild archive for build-deps AIUI | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | So I'd prefer to let him finish tha | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | t | 16:37 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:37 |
| seb128 | empathy is blocked by beta freeze anyway | 16:37 |
| seb128 | so no hurry | 16:37 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, thanks | 16:38 |
| doko | 5.2 is an odyssey | 16:38 |
| cjwatson | Does anyone actually have a current list of what's blocking 5.2? | 16:38 |
| Laney | thought I saw something go by in my release mailbox | 16:38 |
| seb128 | Mirv send status updates on the phone list | 16:38 |
| Laney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1278329 | 16:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1278329 in qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Qt 5.2" [Undecided,New] | 16:39 |
| mitya57 | cjwatson: two bold items in http://pad.ubuntu.com/qt52-dependencies | 16:39 |
| seb128 | ah, the bug Laney pointed has a the update from yesterday | 16:39 |
| seb128 | "multimedia on Ubuntu Touch" | 16:40 |
| seb128 | we need to get rsalveti & co look at that :p | 16:40 |
| Laney | it's not really precise | 16:40 |
| seb128 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmultimedia-opensource-src-touch/+bug/1271192 | 16:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1271192 in ubuntu-touch-meta (Ubuntu) "Update qtmultimedia dependencies for Qt 5.2" [High,Confirmed] | 16:41 |
| seb128 | but that doesn't have lot of details either | 16:42 |
| seb128 | out of "need to be ported to qt 5.2" | 16:42 |
| doko | what worries me more is that we have absolutely no status what else besides the phone will break | 16:43 |
| sergiusens | pitti, didrocks hey, if wanted debug syms for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtubuntu-camera how would I get them (if created at all) | 16:43 |
| seb128 | doko, not a lot out of the phone is using qt5 | 16:44 |
| seb128 | sergiusens, http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/q/qtubuntu-camera/ | 16:45 |
| seb128 | sergiusens, seems like they are in the normal ddebs archive? | 16:45 |
| sergiusens | seb128, thanks | 16:46 |
| seb128 | sergiusens, yw! | 16:46 |
| pitti | sergiusens: they are in ... what seb128 said | 16:46 |
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| pitti | doko: ah, LP imported it, fixed in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gobject-introspection/1.39.90-3 | 16:51 |
| pitti | slangasek: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/trusty-adt-bluez-ppc64el/6/console is an interesting failure, that smells like an actual problem | 16:57 |
| xnox | doko: there only are like 5 things outside of ubuntu phone that use qt5. | 17:06 |
| xnox | in the archive... | 17:06 |
| Laney | currently | 17:06 |
| xnox | Laney: doko: but they are also known to work, since debian is on 5.2 for a long time. | 17:15 |
| Laney | does Debian have a KDE which uses Qt 5? | 17:17 |
| Laney | & that's in exp only isn't it? | 17:17 |
| xnox | Laney: nobody has it, and neither will we. Framework5 is aimed to be released after 14.04 is released, and kubuntu is planning to provide a backport/ppa to be able to run framework on top of 14.04 base. | 17:18 |
| xnox | Laney: thus if either of the two turns out to be incompatible, framework5 has time to fix it in devel, and qt5.2 will need srus. but that's a given. It is known that Framework5 will ideally want 5.2, thus having 5.2 by default is desired by all parties involved in trusty. | 17:20 |
| Riddell | 5.2++ | 17:21 |
| Laney | I'm not denying that it is a desirable state to aim for. The point is that it's quite late and all of the testing so far has been phone focused. | 17:21 |
| Riddell | from the KDE side we need 5.2, 5.0 doesn't work with our stuff | 17:22 |
| xnox | Laney: correct, there is no other testing we can do to be honest, as there just aren't anything out there that uses qt5 yet. I mean, you can try running pokerth, but that thing is like always borked =)))) | 17:22 |
| xnox | Riddell: did you try running it against the canonical-edgers ppa with 5.2 ? | 17:23 |
| xnox | (or at least rebuild against it) | 17:23 |
| xnox | the whichever Neon builds out there? | 17:23 |
| Riddell | xnox: yes, it only builds if using that ppa | 17:23 |
| xnox | Riddell: perfect! ship it! =) | 17:23 |
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| zteam | Hi guys! | 17:31 |
| zteam | I just wanna ask a simple question | 17:31 |
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| zteam | I have a quite annoying bug in Ubuntu 13 (I assume) with Lightdm which I'm unable to resolve would it make sense to file a bug-report on that considering 14.04 is just a around the corner, or would that just waste the developers time? | 17:34 |
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| ogra | zteam, is it fixed in 14.04 ? | 17:37 |
| xnox | zteam: you should just ask / describe your bug straight off the bat. there is little benefit discussing "what ifs" =) | 17:40 |
| zteam | ogra, I have no idea, and I don't have powerful enough hardware to test in a Virtualbox either :-) | 17:43 |
| ogra | zteam, well then you should file it in any case to make sure it can get fixed in 14.04 (if it is still present there) | 17:44 |
| xnox | zteam: there are like ~300 people here running 14.04.... and we are yet to hear what the bug is =) | 17:44 |
| ogra | and that :) | 17:44 |
| zteam | xnox, sure my problem is that my Ubuntu 13.10 installation sometimes forgets to start up LightDM, and instead just give me a black screen it, so I have to go to a terminal and run "sudo service lightdm restart" to get LightDM to run | 17:46 |
| xnox | zteam: are you using Ubuntu / Unity, or e.g. Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Mint, etc? | 17:46 |
| zteam | xnox, I have been asking about this in the Ubuutu channel and people have examined my logfiles, but no one have been able to give me a working solution | 17:47 |
| zteam | xnox, I'm using Unity, but I also have XBMC installed (and selectable from LightDM) | 17:48 |
| xnox | zteam: please file a bug using: ubuntu-bug unity-greeter | 17:48 |
| xnox | zteam: that should attach everything that's necessory. | 17:49 |
| zteam | xnox, Okey, I should add that this happens quite rarely, last time it happend was about one week. | 17:50 |
| zteam | xnox, will that tool collect the .old logfiles as well? | 17:54 |
| xnox | zteam: it should collect all that's useful. | 17:56 |
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| c_korn | hello, if a website uses gzip for delivering the content, how can I debian/watch to do this properly? e.g. wget "http://byuu.org/" -O- -q | zcat | 18:35 |
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| roaksoax | cjwatson: howdy! I think you can help me with this. Is there a way to preseed a value from a package we are installing to one of its dependencies"? | 19:03 |
| roaksoax | cjwatson: for example, i want to install: sudo apt-get install X, but X depends on Y, and I want to preseed the value of Y so it does not show a particular debconf note | 19:04 |
| cjwatson | roaksoax: No, use some method other than preseeding | 19:04 |
| roaksoax | cjwatson: what method would that be? | 19:04 |
| cjwatson | No idea, depends on the package | 19:04 |
| cjwatson | If X depends on Y then there's no guarantee whatsoever that any of X's code would run before Y is installed | 19:05 |
| cjwatson | Much less before Y's preconfiguration happens, which could be arbitrarily early | 19:05 |
| roaksoax | cjwatson: Right. makes sense. | 19:06 |
| cjwatson | (dpkg-preconfigure doesn't sort packages in any kind of dependency order, and doesn't really have the information needed to do so anyway) | 19:06 |
| cjwatson | pitti: Do you have any recommendations for doing some kind of equivalent of unittest.mock in Vala unit tests? | 19:11 |
| cjwatson | Google is not helping | 19:11 |
| roaksoax | cjwatson: thanks! | 19:11 |
| cjwatson | roaksoax: (your problem may be insoluble, or at least may require significant reworking of how Y does things) | 19:13 |
| cjwatson | I'm not aware of people being particularly successful at this in the past - it's generally been a mess when people have tried IIRC | 19:14 |
| roaksoax | cjwatson: so, what if I change the priority of such debconf note to medium. Would it still be shown in the installer but not on an apt-get install? | 19:20 |
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| Saviq | any idea why I can't launch empathy recently, which is complaining about non-existent libwayland-egl.so.1? | 19:52 |
| Saviq | had to symlink libwayland-egl.so | 19:55 |
| Noskcaj | Can someone look at https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/ekiga/ftbfs/+merge/208221 ? It should fix the i386 and ppc64el build failures | 20:13 |
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| zteam_ | So I created a bug report about my LightDM issue, would apprcieate very much if someone can have a look at it :-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1284826 | 20:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1284826 in Ubuntu "LightDM fails to start randomly" [Undecided,New] | 20:40 |
| Noskcaj | zteam_, I've changed it so it actually affects lightdm | 20:44 |
| hallyn | just curious, does anyone do anything with workman (https://gitorious.org/workman/pages/Home) ? | 20:54 |
| hallyn | hm, maybe workman is obsoleted by systemd | 20:55 |
| hallyn | oh, yes it was - https://www.redhat.com/archives/workman-devel/2013-July/msg00007.html | 20:56 |
| zteam_ | Noskcaj, thanks, I personally have no idea, whetever, LightDM or unity-greeter is the root of my problem :-) | 20:56 |
| Noskcaj | zteam_, Next time you file a bug, use "ubuntu-bug PACKAGE". But it's good you attached the logs. | 20:59 |
| zteam_ | Noskcaj, belive me I trieed too... | 21:00 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 21:00 |
| zteam_ | Noskcaj, sudo ubuntu-bug unity-greeter | 21:00 |
| zteam_ | [sudo] password for zteam: | 21:00 |
| zteam_ | (process:8032): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed | 21:01 |
| Noskcaj | oh | 21:01 |
| zteam_ | yep, that's what I felt too, a crasing bug-report tool :P | 21:02 |
| infinity | zteam_: Why would you run it as root? | 21:05 |
| zteam_ | infinity, becuase I assumed the reeson it crashed the first time was it didn't had permission to read some logfiles | 21:06 |
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| zteam_ | infinity, the first time I ran it I just I did ran ubuntu-bug unity-greeter, but then it didn't worked I thought, it was uable to reach some logfiles | 21:09 |
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| zteam_ | infinity, :-) | 21:10 |
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| Noskcaj | Could someone please do some work on the sponsoring queue? It's getting fairly full, mostly with bugfixes | 21:14 |
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| cjwatson | roaksoax: the installer uses the same debconf priority as the regular system (high), so no | 21:57 |
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| slangasek | pitti: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/trusty-adt-bluez-ppc64el/6/console > does module loading work in the test env, and do you have linux-image-extra installed (or better, the linux-image-generic metapackage)? I reproduced a failure here, but only because bluetooth.ko was missing | 23:20 |
| infinity | pitti: Should I be seeing armhf and ppc64el configurations on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/job/trusty-adt-eglibc/ | 23:50 |
| infinity | pitti: Or is that coming $later? | 23:50 |
| infinity | Oh, maybe that's just the britney-triggered ones? | 23:51 |
| infinity | Where do I find the non-britney runs? | 23:51 |
| infinity | pitti: Ahh, nevermind. Going up one level, I found armhf and ppc64el in their own little worlds. | 23:52 |
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| infinity | pitti: Okay, so the eglibc/armhf failure looks like armhf is still using overlayfs? | 23:57 |
| infinity | pitti: The ppc64el failure, though, is completely unexpected and weird... | 23:57 |
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