| belkinsa | slickymaster, ping. | 00:03 |
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| slickymaster | belkinsa: pong | 00:54 |
| belkinsa | Did ye get the last mailing-list e-mail from BlinkinCat? | 00:54 |
| slickymaster | seeing it now | 00:54 |
| * belkinsa is really lost now | 00:55 | |
| slickymaster | but I'm unable understand it | 00:55 |
| belkinsa | Yeah and that's why I'm asking you. | 00:55 |
| slickymaster | it seems to me that it's a old one resent | 00:55 |
| slickymaster | thing is I don't quite grasp his intentions | 00:56 |
| belkinsa | Yeah. Is it his disorder that is causing this? | 00:57 |
| knome | on an unrelated note, any news on merging the team to -doc? | 00:57 |
| belkinsa | No news. | 00:57 |
| slickymaster | it's the only logic explanation I can think of | 00:57 |
| slickymaster | nopes knome | 00:58 |
| belkinsa | Oh, woah. knome, hey there. | 00:58 |
| knome | :) | 00:58 |
| slickymaster | the last week, due to same erratic behavior from Geoff | 00:59 |
| slickymaster | we weren't able to discuus it | 00:59 |
| slickymaster | s/discuus/discuss | 00:59 |
| jenni | slickymaster meant to say: we weren't able to discuss it | 00:59 |
| belkinsa | And I confused Leigh. | 01:00 |
| belkinsa | You need to join the list, knome! | 01:00 |
| knome | well, i really don't need yet another list, which is why i think the teams should be merged... | 01:01 |
| slickymaster | the way I see things right now, the best approach would be to simply pop the question in the mailing list | 01:02 |
| slickymaster | due to his disorder, Geoff position may vary from one day to the other | 01:02 |
| belkinsa | And that's the hard part is to get a stright answer | 01:03 |
| slickymaster | so an explanation of what is intended should be wrote and the question asked | 01:03 |
| slickymaster | do you think you can do that belkinsa? | 01:04 |
| belkinsa | That can work. | 01:04 |
| knome | if you want, i can review the mail before sending it | 01:04 |
| knome | in any way, please CC me in the discussion | 01:05 |
| belkinsa | Sure thing. | 01:05 |
| slickymaster | of course knome | 01:05 |
| slickymaster | belkinsa: can you draft something for me and knome to review? | 01:06 |
| belkinsa | Sure. | 01:06 |
| belkinsa | Here or in e-mail form? | 01:06 |
| slickymaster | thanks | 01:06 |
| slickymaster | you choose | 01:07 |
| knome | belkinsa, i guess a pad is the best once you've got it to the review stage, then we can tweak it live and get it sent soon | 01:07 |
| knome | i tend to be bad on things that are sent me to email that i need to send back | 01:07 |
| belkinsa | I agree, the pad is better. How to get one? | 01:07 |
| slickymaster | lol | 01:07 |
| knome | belkinsa, just go to pad.ubuntu.com | 01:07 |
| knome | belkinsa, and create a pad | 01:07 |
| belkinsa | Okay, one sec | 01:08 |
| slickymaster | pad.ubuntu.com | 01:08 |
| knome | slickymaster, slow today? :) | 01:08 |
| slickymaster | getting some laundry done | 01:08 |
| slickymaster | :) | 01:08 |
| slickymaster | being single again has this type of chores :P | 01:08 |
| knome | awwh | 01:09 |
| belkinsa | Created: http://pad.ubuntu.com/iAhFPxaSyd | 01:09 |
| jenni | [ OpenID Authentication Required ] - https://j.mp/1mDV9lQ | 01:09 |
| knome | bookmarked | 01:09 |
| belkinsa | I got the base written. | 01:13 |
| knome | i'll look at it in a minute | 01:13 |
| knome | or two... | 01:13 |
| belkinsa | Alright. | 01:13 |
| belkinsa | I'm keeping this one formal because I think it's needed. | 01:14 |
| knome | hmm, right | 01:31 |
| knome | hey belkinsa, slickymaster | 01:33 |
| knome | i asked pleia2 to join our effort | 01:33 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 01:33 |
| knome | the pad is at http://pad.ubuntu.com/iAhFPxaSyd | 01:33 |
| jenni | [ OpenID Authentication Required ] - https://j.mp/1mDV9lQ | 01:33 |
| knome | my first thoughts: | 01:35 |
| pleia2 | seeing as we're ramping up the wiki documentation team over in -docs, I think it does make sense to finally sync things up | 01:35 |
| knome | is it necessary to discuss disorders? | 01:35 |
| pleia2 | we're also collaborating with the ubuntu manual folks these days | 01:35 |
| pleia2 | knome: no | 01:35 |
| pleia2 | I'd remove that stuff | 01:35 |
| pleia2 | as far as I'm concerned, this is really just an overall consolidation effort so we're all working together and on the same page :) | 01:36 |
| belkinsa | Hey there, pleia2. To everyone, I was afk eating dinner. | 01:42 |
| pleia2 | hey :) | 01:44 |
| pleia2 | time for me to go for my run now | 01:44 |
| knome | pleia2, have fun! | 01:44 |
| belkinsa | Okay, thanks for the help. | 01:44 |
| knome | i don't think it's fair to pull up the disorder in a public mailing list; for the one that has it, or others | 01:48 |
| belkinsa | I agree. | 01:48 |
| belkinsa | (what was a thinking) | 01:48 |
| knome | if you think you need to have a more personal tone, maybe send a personal mail in addition | 01:48 |
| slickymaster | yeah, I do agrre with you knome regarding that | 01:49 |
| belkinsa | That could work. slickymaster would it make a difference to him if we have a personal e-mail to him? | 01:49 |
| knome | and to be honest.. this isn't about one person | 01:49 |
| slickymaster | thing is, for what I know of Geff, that mail will just pull him apart | 01:49 |
| slickymaster | yeah, I know, but it was him who started it all | 01:50 |
| belkinsa | Right...you know him longer than me and knome. | 01:50 |
| slickymaster | maybe I'm just reading it trhe wrong way | 01:50 |
| knome | slickymaster, i understand that | 01:51 |
| belkinsa | Or I'm misunderstanding everything. | 01:51 |
| slickymaster | np, I'll mail personally, aside that email to the list | 01:51 |
| knome | one of the reasons i asked pleia2 to join us was to get some insight from a person that sits on the CC | 01:51 |
| slickymaster | I imagine that | 01:51 |
| belkinsa | slickymaster, okay. | 01:51 |
| belkinsa | And good move, knome. | 01:52 |
| knome | i do not want to upset anybody, nor make them feel like they hit the rock botto | 01:52 |
| slickymaster | that's what I'm afraid | 01:52 |
| knome | but on the other hand, i think it's not sustainable to try to avoid saying something or in some tone because of a single person | 01:52 |
| knome | repetitio mater studiorum est: i don't want to make anybody feel bad, but things need to roll forward | 01:53 |
| slickymaster | yeah, it's like being stuck between a rock and a hard place :P | 01:53 |
| belkinsa | Agreed. | 01:53 |
| knome | so the best thing we can do is break the ice (done in IRC) and propose it formally as we've agreed on, but in a respective manner | 01:54 |
| knome | we don't want to lose *anybody* working on this project. | 01:54 |
| slickymaster | belkinsa: go ahead and send the email, I'll mail him personnaly | 01:54 |
| belkinsa | Alright, I will. In reply to or a new one? | 01:55 |
| belkinsa | s/I will/on it. | 01:55 |
| jenni | belkinsa meant to say: Alright, on it.. In reply to or a new one? | 01:55 |
| slickymaster | I think it's better a new one | 01:55 |
| belkinsa | Okay. What title should I title it? | 01:56 |
| knome | belkinsa, draft in the same pad? | 01:56 |
| belkinsa | For what? | 01:56 |
| knome | personal mail? | 01:57 |
| knome | i already started taht | 01:57 |
| knome | feel free to draft elsewhere if you don't want my sticky fingers in ;) | 01:57 |
| slickymaster | 5 minutes guys, I have to remove my laundry from the washing machine and put it in the dryer | 01:57 |
| knome | slickymaster, summarize what you want to say to geoff? | 01:59 |
| belkinsa | Should the mailing-list e-mail be also posted to the thread? | 02:00 |
| knome | which thread? | 02:00 |
| belkinsa | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2110857 | 02:00 |
| jenni | [ Discussion - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs ] - https://j.mp/1gy6yw6 | 02:00 |
| knome | why not | 02:00 |
| belkinsa | I will be on it once I get slickymaster permisson. | 02:01 |
| belkinsa | E-mail sent. | 02:02 |
| belkinsa | And not CCed. Sorry, knome. | 02:02 |
| belkinsa | What is your e-mail? | 02:02 |
| knome | oi oi. :) | 02:02 |
| knome | i see the mail | 02:02 |
| knome | mine is: pasi@shimmerproject.org | 02:03 |
| knome | (knome@ubuntu.com works as well) | 02:03 |
| belkinsa | Sent to your Ubuntu e-mail. | 02:04 |
| belkinsa | slickymaster, ping. | 02:05 |
| belkinsa | I know that you are there. | 02:05 |
| belkinsa | ;) | 02:05 |
| slickymaster | belkinsa: I'm here now | 02:07 |
| belkinsa | Okay, sorry about that. Anyways, can I post that e-mail minus the greetings in the Thread on the Forums? | 02:08 |
| slickymaster | of coursse belkinsa, you didn't need to ask me that :P | 02:09 |
| belkinsa | Okay, I was just checking. | 02:09 |
| knome | belkinsa, slickymaster: see the pad for a personal mail draft | 02:10 |
| belkinsa | Done. | 02:10 |
| knome | again, feel free to add my name, but don't feel obliged to | 02:12 |
| knome | and feel free to poke around as much as you like | 02:12 |
| knome | bbiab | 02:12 |
| belkinsa | Looks good. | 02:13 |
| slickymaster | knome: please don't take it wrongly but I think I prefer to write him something myself | 02:15 |
| knome | slickymaster, not at all :) | 02:17 |
| knome | i guess that's the message i want to give him | 02:18 |
| slickymaster | but I dfo have to say that your text is quite good | 02:18 |
| knome | heh, thanks | 02:18 |
| knome | i've been practicing! | 02:18 |
| belkinsa | It's good that you have these skills. | 02:18 |
| knome | yeah, one kind of has to when being an entrepreneur | 02:19 |
| knome | ..or won't be too long | 02:19 |
| knome | hardest part is writing the offers... | 02:19 |
| belkinsa | It's bed time for me. Thanks for the help everyone. | 02:22 |
| knome | same here really | 02:24 |
| knome | night belkinsa, slickymaster | 02:24 |
| knome | thanks for taking care | 02:24 |
| knome | ...and finally, see you later :) | 02:24 |
| slickymaster | cy guys, I'm off to bed also, I'll have to be up in 3 hours to go to work :P | 02:28 |
| slickymaster | thanks for evrything knome and pleia2 | 02:28 |
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