[01:05] <jose> nhaines: that means we've started the third world war?
[01:59] <nhaines> jose: I guess we were overdue for Khan to start the Eugenics War.  :)
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[08:26] <dholbach> good morning
[08:47] <nhaines> dholbach: morgen.  :)
[08:47] <dholbach> hi nhaines :)
[08:48] <nhaines> hiya dholbach.  I survived SCALE.  :)
[08:48] <dholbach> well done :-D
[08:50] <nhaines> I don't even think I got sick this year... which is a win, haha.
[08:50] <nhaines> And best of all, my Nexus 5 was a big hit at the booth running Ubuntu.  Unfortunately I didn't manage to get sound working in time.  :)
[08:53] <dholbach> still - great work! :)
[08:54] <nhaines> Thank you!  Actually it was a good way to talk about how Ubuntu is meant to be experienced on purpose-built phones, but how the community could port phones nonetheless.
[09:02] <dholbach> nice :-D
[09:02] <dholbach> how did the porting go so far?
[09:03] <nhaines> Well, I used MultiROM boot and rsalvetti's -hammerhead-armelf.zip file, and then just the standard 4.4.2 rootfs.
[09:03] <nhaines> For sound, the files posted on the ML enabled them, although it's a bit staticky occasionally.  I haven't looked into this.
[09:04] <nhaines> I am considering setting up an automated build system on a VPS so I can use the built-in image updater.
[09:05] <dholbach> that'd be awesome - you'd make a lot of people very happy
[09:05] <dholbach> might be worth chatting with rsalveti and people like ogra to see what could be done on Canonical servers somewhere and how to set things up
[09:06] <nhaines> That would be optimal actually... my poor bandwidth.  :)
[09:06] <nhaines> Since hammerhead will be supported for 14.10 (maybe) and it's basically running perfectly anyhow.
[10:26] <Bending_Spoons> hi, is anyone actively in this chat room?
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[11:52] <nik90> Bending_Spoons: this room is only actively during a live video session
[11:52] <nik90> s/actively/active
[12:02] <Bending_Spoons> nik90 can you tell me where I can find the schedule for these hangouts?
[12:02] <nik90> Bending_Spoons: http://ubuntuonair.com/calendar/
[12:03] <nik90> Bending_Spoons: I just realised that all useful links are in the header btw
[12:06] <Bending_Spoons> nik90 yeah I just noticed that too
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[18:34] <Jppdan> hey bros
[18:35] <Jppdan> first time in the #ubuntu-on-air IRC
[18:58] <simion314> hi
[18:58] <ahayzen> jono, we can see u :)
[18:58] <simion314> yes, I can see you
[19:01] <nik90> hello everyone
[19:01] <michele__> hi all
[19:01] <dickface> Hey dick head
[19:02] <jose> QUESTION: Looks like you have ConFlu?
[19:02] <pulu90_> I see you!
[19:02] <dickface> sorry
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[19:03] <Dedaspa> QUESTION: Linux Mint vs Ubuntu? What's best, and what makes the one you think is best, better than the other one? :)
[19:03] <jose> QUESTION: Is something going to change on the phone foundations with the swap from upstart to systemd?
[19:03] <michele__> QUESTION: WHY CANONICAL DECIDED TO DEVELOP MIR, MOREOVER 14.10 WILL BE BASED ON MIR?
[19:04] <dickface> SORRY FOR BEING A DICK
[19:04] <nik90> QUESTION: When can we expect the new Unity 8 Dash and Scopes shown at MWC to land in the Ubuntu Phones? Can't wait!
[19:05] <dgeorgiev> QUESTION: Are there plans for an deal with adobe for their CC in ubuntu?
[19:05] <jono> http://developer.ubuntu.com/2014/02/ubuntu-development-update-presentation/
[19:06] <ahayzen> QUESTION: What is more important for Ubuntu about going to MWC, getting OEMs interested in Ubuntu or brand awareness to potential mobile customers/consumers?
[19:07] <jono> http://developer.ubuntu.com/2014/02/introducing-our-new-scopes-technology/
[19:07] <iBobX> Hello Jono! QUESTION: Is there any Ubuntu version that comes with MIR display server for testing purposes? how this technology is going regarding the integration with X11 apps?
[19:08] <rstreeter> QUESTION: When will Unity 8 and MIR be fully implemented on the desktop?
[19:11] <Dedaspa> QUESTION: Will there be added an opportunity in the near future to add separators to the Unity panel? I think it's kinda annoying that you can't organize your apps.. It's making me a lot confused.
[19:13] <justin86> QUESTION: Do you think, that some of major manufacturers, such as Samsung, can potentially choose Ubuntu instead of their secondary-OS, such as Tizen, that Samsung use in some phones?
[19:13] <comeinme> WHAT ABOUT MAC PUP?
[19:13] <Bending_Spoons> QUESTION: when Ubuntu Touch is finished, will it come with apps for Google's services (Google Now, Maps, Gmail, etc.)?  If not, will Google support Ubuntu Touch in the future?
[19:14] <michele__> thanks Jono
[19:14] <Nivex> QUESTION: Given Mir and Wayland do similar things (lightweight display), could there be a translation layer between the two that's still lighter than X11?
[19:15] <simion314> QUESTION: I read about a Unity8 preview for desktop, can now people submit patches for desktop parts of Unity or the developers are  waiting until next cycle before adding any line of code desktop specific
[19:16] <dgeorgiev> CC = Creative Cloud, http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud.html
[19:16] <Andris_> QUESTION Hi, is there a possibility that Ubuntu will support the Nexus 5? I would really love to use Ubuntu on my phone and even create a couple of apps, but as I bought the phone just recently, at least for a year or two I'm stuck with it.
[19:16] <KarielG0> Hello Jono, this is going to be long and in few parts: few days ago I read an article on OMG about that Canonical will gain fees from phone mannufacturers from making Ubuntu Phones, is this open source policy? Ubuntu is gaining money from phone mannufacturers, in this article I also read that Ubuntu is gathering fees from computer mannufacturers, very damn open source. How do you want to make open source more popular by wanti
[19:16] <KarielG0> What if I have a home computer service and I wanted to promote Ubuntu and I installed Ubuntu on the computers? Maybe not for inviduals but just gaining money is horrible, really bad policy! How long shall we wait 'til Canonical makes everything Ubuntu on their own licences and start to sell it? I asked you last week about Ubuntu One not being competitive, Canonical isn't as bad as comercial companies
[19:17] <KarielG0> it's even worse, it has more income-oriented policy than other companies like Google, Google doesn't gather fees from phones with Android as well as computers with Chrome OS. Do you want to sell it? Fine! But please, then make Ubuntu work good (right now I'm on Sabayon which is more stable than 12.04LTS and has newest packages, how hard is it to make a stable distro!?), please then don't ask people for donations
[19:17] <KarielG0> then please don't use other peoples work who made all the apps, who made GNOME? What does Canonical want to tell them that they are gathering big money on their hard work for which they don't get anything? It's nothing personal Jono, you're really great and sorry for asking you something very offensive to your company but I just had to say this.
[19:18] <nikwen> @KarielG0: Add "QUESTION:" in front of your questions if you want them to be answered. ;)
[19:18] <Kernellinux> QUESTION: Why is Ubuntu focusing so hard on mobile? Microsoft and Apple both are moving towards mobile and it seems as there is a real need for a company to focus on a solid desktop OS
[19:19] <iBeliever> QUESTION: With the new header designs, will there still be a swipe-up toolbar?
[19:19] <sdru> QUESTION: does mir currently support laptop touchpads/mouses/keyboards? If so, does it use the current X input drivers?
[19:19] <Gnoxy> QUESTION: If I buy an ubuntu phone, how long will I get updates for the phone? Bought phones in the past that has been abandoned with all kind of bugs.
[19:20] <matlux> how many ubuntu users are there?
[19:20] <Markcortbass> QUESTION: WIll Canonical show a preview video from Unity 8 for the Desktop this MobileWorldCongress? That would be great
[19:21] <iBobX> THANKS!
[19:22] <Dedaspa> QUESTION: What do you think about Steve Jobs? How he got thrown out of Apple, and that he chose to co-operate with Microsoft at his return? :)
[19:22] <sdru> QUESTION: Atm can Mir support changing a display's brightness?
[19:23] <nik90> QUESTION: What's the number one app that you are missing on Ubuntu Touch (other than email) ?
[19:23] <matlux> QUESTION:how many ubuntu users are there?
[19:23] <rstreeter> QUESTION: How is the new book coming along? Art of Community was an awesome read
[19:24] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:24] <Ubuntu-fan94> QUESTION What is some advice you could offer to someone learning to develop their first app?
[19:24] <sdru> QUESTION: is video playback (on vlc for example) hw accelerated on Ubuntu for smartphones? And is html5 <video> hw accelerated?
[19:25] <jimmyjames> Question : I was thinking about trying out ubuntu gnome but on distrowatch it shows no update for quite some time while ubuntu is always update, should I be concern about lack of updates for gnome ubuntu ?
[19:26] <lei> QUESTION; will there be adobe photoshop and a intergrated weather app on desktop and by the way i got ubuntu touch running great on my htc mytouch
[19:28] <Ubuntix> when can we expect the first stable release of ubuntu touch? Is there a smartphone with ubuntu touch going to be released? Like from Bq or Meizu
[19:28] <sdru> QUESTION: is LTE supported?
[19:28] <Bending_Spoons> QUESTION: In a previous Q&A session, you told me that Canonical’s app store will not be curated, but that Ubuntu users are safe because of sandboxing.  I’d like to repond that sandboxing alone doesn’t provide complete security, as the master key vulnerability (and other vulnerabilities) of Android have shown.  So I’d like to ask this: if Canonical’s app store isn’t curated, will they run every new app submi
[19:28] <Bending_Spoons> ... runs new app submissions to their Play store through Bouncer?
[19:29] <Nivex> QUESTION: Given Canonical's shifting focus to mobile, what does the timeline look like for enabling IPv6 in the infrastructure to support this?
[19:30] <KarielG0> QUESS Ubuntu won't be free, these fees we pay, not the mannufacturers, there are lots of distrubutions which don't need to make money, you base Ubuntu on Linux kernel or GNOME which are completely free, you're paying for optional codecs and other things that are optional. Like I said in the other part which you didn't read that f.ex. Google isn't gathering any fees and remember that you're also making money on free work of ot
[19:30] <lei> QUESTION: will there be photo shop adobe coming to ubuntu and will there be an intergrated weather and calendar app on the desktop
[19:30] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Where did you get that Mac from, that was showing?  The one intead of Windows for music now.
[19:32] <matlux> QUESTION : Will you make Edge phones one day?
[19:32] <Kernellinux> QUESTION: Any chance of seeing more Ubuntu use from people who work at Ubuntu...I see a lot of Macs, notice the computer behind you even?
[19:33] <Dedaspa> QUESTION: Last time I watched the stream I asked a question if you were allowed to make Facebook pages so people can write in if they have problems with their Ubuntu. So they can get a fast answer. Is it allowed? Or do me and my friends need permission from Canonical?
[19:34] <SimonK1> QUESTION: how long will the released Phone-Hardware (Bq) be updated software-wiese?
[19:35] <KarielG0> QUESTION: as in the other part, Google doesn't ask for donations, then why Canonical is?
[19:36] <SimonK1> QUESTION-REPHRASED: how long will the released Phones (Bq) be updated OS-wiese? Will it get feature-updates? will it get security updates?
[19:38] <Bending_Spoons> QUESTION: Will any Ubuntu Phones feature removable batteries and either decent amounts of memory (32 or more GB)?  Or an SD card slot?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: What are your coments about how Ubuntu will switch to SystemD like most distro's instead of using Canonical's own Upstart?  To me it seems the switch is mainly just since Debian is switching, but is that really the case?
[19:38] <Andris_> QUESTION Does wireless charging and bluetooth music streaming work on Ubuntu touch?
[19:39] <SimonK1> QUESTION: will we be able to install/run steam-games on x86 tablets using Unity8?
[19:39] <jimmyjames> QUESTION : I have been using linux since 1994 and by far no contest Ubuntu has givin the open source community the best platform to date hands down, Red Hat doesn't even come close to providing a easier way to use linux, you guys keep rolling and make all the money you can all nay sayers can just piss off, parton my french
[19:39] <snwh> Take everything jono is saying and that applies to indie developers too.
[19:40] <normanthegerbil> QUESTION: Will more devices be officially supported by ubuntu touch at some point in the future?
[19:41] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Did you wait untill you were sure your music software would all work on Mac before  switching away from the WIndows computer you were using before for music, or what's the story here?
[19:41] <matlux> QUESTION : How many viruses have there been for Ubuntu so far?
[19:41] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: Sorry I am late, can you briefly go over what you talked about so far.
[19:42] <lei> QUESTION: will ubuntu use btrfs from top to bottom
[19:42] <sebsebseb> QUESTION:  How was the event you went to over the weekend?  What was it OSCON or something?
[19:43] <sebsebseb> what did you do there as well?
[19:44] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: What companies think about Mir? Are they glad that you are willing to go against the grain to better your product or do they even care?
[19:44] <Nivex> ooh, good question lei. btrfs has a TON of potential.
[19:44] <Markcortbass> QUESTION: Will Canonical show something at the MobileWorldCongress 2014? I don't have seen much news
[19:45] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: I still want your job. I was thinking about working within the Ubuntu community to help get a start on that path. Where should I begin and what should I focus on.
[19:45] <sebsebseb> QUESTON:  Which big OEM's in 2015 do you think will ship Ubuntu PHone?  if you know tell us heh heh, if you  don't take a guess, I mean heh heh
[19:46] <rstreeter> QUESTION: Will minimize on click ever be brought back?
[19:46] <matlux> QUESTION : What's the most money donated to Ubuntu at once?
[19:47] <lei> QUESTON: will there be compressed memory like mavericks
[19:47] <Gnoxy> QUESTION: Can you say this out loud "Im going to give the entire IRC-channel their own ubuntu phone on release"
[19:47] <SimonK1> QUESTION: will 2 graphic-cards be supported by Mir? (Intel + ATI)
[19:48] <snwh> QUESTION: can you cough once if HTC is making an Ubuntu phone?
[19:48] <Gnoxy> NAILD IT
[19:49] <Nivex> lei: there's zswap now. I also played with some compressed RAM stuff awhile ago but I forgot the name of it.
[19:49] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: How do you feel about the rise of design focused distro like Numix OS who are focus purely on design but not much technical knowledge.
[19:49] <lei> QUESTON:will there snapshots enable
[19:49] <toddc_> jono thanks for working when sick today!
[19:50] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Will they Canonical/Mark let you go back to bed after the session since your ill? :d
[19:50] <Bending_Spoons> QUESTION: I am considering buying a smartphone soon.  It will be my first smartphone.  I don't know if I can wait for the first Ubuntu phones to come out, so I might get an Android phone and maybe later get a Ubuntu phone (maybe).  If I decide to do that, will it be possible to take whatever Android apps I've downloaded or purchased and install them on the Ubuntu phone?
[19:50] <Ubuntix> i want that phone now!
[19:50] <SimonK1> QUESTION: Will we be able to install deb packages (of main repository or ppa) be installable on Ubuntu-Phone/Tablet?
[19:50] <Markcortbass> SERIOUS QUESTION: Could you play the bass? :))
[19:50] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: Can you tell Mark to cut the beard? I dig the sage look but it's not really him.
[19:51] <Gnoxy> Not a QUESTION: Keep up the good work man! You and ubuntu are an awsomefest
[19:51] <Nivex> lei: ah, the package is zram-config. It takes half your ram and makes it compressable.
[19:52] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Playing some guitar at the end for us, may make you feel a bit better?
[19:53] <justin86> QUESTION: Apple relies on ARM heavily in iphone/ipad. AMD now provides ARM based Opteron for servers. Nvidia promises high performance ARM with Denver. Do you believe, that x86 is doomed in consumer electronics in near future?
[19:54] <terabit_> QUESTION: Bq and Meizu ubuntu phone will support function like ubuntu for android?
[19:55] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: What does it say on your t-shirt and wehre you get it from?
[19:55] <armaanfarshori> hello
[19:55] <sebsebseb> Hack I think, but can't realy see it properly enough
[19:56] <halfmast> Jono wireless charging does work on the nexus 4 with Ubuntu touch.
[19:57] <CheeseBurg> Sit ups Jono, time for some sit ups
[19:57] <Bending_Spoons> QUESTION: thanks for the suggestion.  Just to make sure I understood you correctly, you're suggesting that I get a Nexus 4 and install Ubuntu as a dual-boot?
[19:57] <Markcortbass> Great! Love to see 5 string bass !
[20:00] <terabit_> nice!
[20:00] <ChaosEngine> shiiit Jono, U rock
[20:00] <felix__> will there ever be a Google maps app for u4p?
[20:00] <protonuser_1> very good!
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[20:01] <Markcortbass> Jono: Relax your arm. That's more comfortable ;)
[20:01] <terabit_> bye
[20:02] <Andris_> Comfy jammies, cozy bed, big soft pillow for your head. Worry not, the world can wait take your time and recuperate.
[20:02] <jono> thanks ChaosEngine!
[20:02] <jono> Bending_Spoons, yep
[20:03] <Markcortbass> Thanks Jono!
[20:03] <jono> thanks!
[20:03] <ahayzen> thanks jono get well soon
[20:03] <sebsebseb> jono: good sesssion
[20:03] <jono> :-)
[20:03] <Nivex> jono: which carrier is your Ubuntu N4 on?
[20:03] <terabit_> :)
[20:03] <jono> you all rock
[20:03] <sebsebseb> jono: enjoy your sleep
[20:03] <terabit_> good night!
[20:04] <Nivex> o/
[20:04] <nik90> jose: thnx for the Q&A despite being sick
[20:18] <boss2022003> i hear you
[20:24] <Dunken> How does the gaming section look like in the future for Ubuntu? Will there be more support for more games?
[20:31] <nik90> jose: I meant jono ... :D
[20:35] <diamond39> hello
[20:43] <soltysss> why not to add click to minimize capabilities to the launcher? I would want to minimize active application from launcher!
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[21:48] <ravi4ubuntu> can ubuntu touch comes with these app in software center
[21:49] <ravi4ubuntu> candy crush,whatsapp,netflix,angry bird
[21:50] <ravi4ubuntu> If we are targeting millions users for Ubuntu touch need to see what they are using in daily life
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[23:14] <JC-madness> so I cant view this video at a library... dumb old things... anyways, what did I miss? have they came up with a releace date yet?