| zequence | cub: As I've said before, we don't have a testing procedure | 11:13 |
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| zequence | cub: I did write an email about testing on the mail list, which explains what we need to do though | 11:14 |
| zequence | cub: Though, we need to test the beta1 ISO. I'll make an announcement tomorrow about that | 15:09 |
| knome | zequence, we need to talk. | 16:57 |
| knome | :) | 16:57 |
| zequence | knome: I'm in for a little while. Otherwise, I'll have time tomorrow during work hours | 21:43 |
| knome | tomorrow is better | 21:44 |
| knome | but yeah, the LTS thing | 21:44 |
| zequence | knome: Ok. See you tomorrow then :) | 21:45 |
| knome | yep, good night :) | 21:45 |
| cub | elfy, are you around? | 21:46 |
| elfy | ish | 21:46 |
| elfy | cub: what's up? | 21:46 |
| cub | He..I was reading your reply to zequence's email earlier in February about testing and had some questions | 21:46 |
| cub | you wrote "Someone did create a whole bunch of bugs for Studio Testcases - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bugs?field.tag=ubuntu-studio" | 21:47 |
| cub | and when I look there it seems it's for all *buntu? | 21:47 |
| holstein | what is up with the volume control? | 21:48 |
| holstein | i had a nasty-ish exchange with someone eariler.. but it does seem the volume applet is not working here | 21:48 |
| zequence | cub: Beta1 is released Thursday. Before that we do the normal routine of testing our ISO. But, additionally, it would be good to test applications individually to find possible bugs | 21:48 |
| holstein | the desktop is slick! i forget how nice it is right out of the box | 21:49 |
| cub | zequence, yes I saw your reply in the logs as well. | 21:49 |
| elfy | can you point me at it ? can't remember exactly what I said | 21:49 |
| elfy | oh yea | 21:50 |
| elfy | chilcuil created bugs for almost everyone I think :) | 21:50 |
| zequence | holstein: I think that has been fixed, but maybe we need to add something. We'll need to check with the Xubuntu devs. Did you actually test it yourself? | 21:50 |
| elfy | we had ~60 of them | 21:50 |
| cub | elfy, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2014-February/005632.html | 21:50 |
| holstein | zequence: im just in the live environment, to get "stock" | 21:50 |
| elfy | cub might be wrong link | 21:50 |
| elfy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bugs?field.tag=ubuntu-studio | 21:50 |
| elfy | cub: there might be *buntu stuff there as well - the link just picks up those that 'have' a studio tag | 21:50 |
| holstein | zequence: i can do a fresh install and uprade stock, though, and see | 21:50 |
| elfy | cub: yep - I found that mail here - just re-read it | 21:51 |
| elfy | though I've not made any start on your things - been a bit busy of late with our stuff and r/l | 21:51 |
| cub | ok but if I was to create a test case as the manual test instructions, that wouldn't be "ubuntu studio only" right? | 21:51 |
| elfy | cub: ok how 'we've' worked it is - if we do something that is xubuntu specific - we make it so - that is it might reference our menu's etc | 21:52 |
| elfy | but something that's default for other flavours - you make them agnostic | 21:53 |
| elfy | but bear in mind that this is really about 'default apps' so hydrogen for instance could be written with -studio in mind | 21:53 |
| knome | imo, you can expect people know how to find app X to launch | 21:54 |
| knome | so even if it isn't exactly like it's written on the testcase... it should be okay | 21:54 |
| knome | usage for the apps is the same for every flavor anyway | 21:54 |
| elfy | then when you have your group of default app testcases - you can create testsuites with specific tests in them | 21:54 |
| knome | elfy, not unless they have the permissions to do that | 21:55 |
| elfy | cub: for instance all our tests are in testsuites like this http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds/55995/testcases | 21:55 |
| elfy | knome: yep - just talking generally | 21:55 |
| knome | yep. | 21:55 |
| cub | yes I was checking through the xubuntu testsuites | 21:56 |
| elfy | cub it works like - product ->testsuite -> testcases | 21:56 |
| elfy | I'm more than happy to work with you if you want with this | 21:56 |
| cub | I would like to, I'm not sure how much time I will have available with the beta coming up | 21:57 |
| knome | to be honest, it looks to me like you'll have to wait until U to get these done | 21:57 |
| elfy | yep - I'd agree with that | 21:58 |
| zequence | holstein: Alright. There may be some kernel problems. Some drivers cause issues. Being worked at. | 21:58 |
| elfy | cub: it depends on how deep you want a test to go to be honest | 21:58 |
| elfy | some of ours are really simple - others go on and on and on - I'm looking at those to see what can be shaved tbh | 21:59 |
| cub | holstein, wow that was some frustrated user with the volume control discussion | 21:59 |
| cub | elfy, do they change much between the releases? It seems a lot of work has been put into every case | 22:00 |
| elfy | not much | 22:00 |
| knome | not really unless an app gets a complete rewrite | 22:00 |
| elfy | I think we've changed very few because of changes - we've had some testcase bugs mostly | 22:01 |
| elfy | then - this cycle we're going to get whisker-menu - which will change a few testcase | 22:01 |
| elfy | so - it really is the work needed in the first instance - we were really lucky to have half a dozen people willing to put that time in | 22:02 |
| elfy | but it did take much of the saucy cycle | 22:02 |
| elfy | cub: I subscribed to your -dev m/l , so we can talk on there as well | 22:05 |
| cub | sry got a phone call | 22:07 |
| elfy | that's ok - I don't mind :) | 22:07 |
| elfy | I got another drink :) | 22:08 |
| cub | oh I wish! | 22:08 |
| cub | thanks elfy and knome for the information, I'll do some more reading! | 22:16 |
| knome | no problem | 22:17 |
| elfy | cub: you're welcome - I'm generally about if you need anything, if I'm not you can either catch me on the m/l or shout at forestpiskie in the xubuntu channels and I see that in the morning | 22:21 |
| cub | ok, thanks! | 22:22 |
| elfy | alternatively piskie can sit in here as well - which is probably more sensible :) | 22:22 |
| elfy | 30 second lag it seems | 22:22 |
| cub | huija72 | 22:28 |
| cub | ah wrong chat. | 22:28 |
| holstein | zequence: cool.. thats what i suggested to the user | 23:10 |
| holstein | or, tried to at least.. | 23:11 |
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