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jjfrv8pleia2, thanks for the language answer, I got your e-mail and contacted the writer.01:28
pleia2jjfrv8: yay :)01:28
micahgbrainwash: is there a new upstream release?02:00
micahgbrainwash: if it's not critical to the beta, I suggest getting the update sponsored into Debian and we can sync post beta 102:03
knomenot that critical to the beta. freeze was yesterday (monday)02:25
knomeoff to bed02:26
knomenighty!02:26
pleia2boo, no b1 isos yet, will have to test tomorrow05:51
* Noskcaj points pleia2 to the daily ISOs05:53
pleia2Noskcaj: yeah yeah :)05:57
pleia2I actually do have limited time for this, so I want to focus on helping complete testing for the b1 things, tonight I'll just shift to another part of my todo list05:58
AussieDownUnderHey guys. Just came across the marketing flyers ect for ubuntu & xubuntu, the one where it mentions windows xp going out of support. I might be interested to volunteer by printing out flyers to hand out, put in letter boxes & put up at community places.06:32
pleia2AussieDownUnder: that's great!07:03
pleia2AussieDownUnder: I had about 50 of the US size printed up for a conference this past weekend, went well :)07:03
AussieDownUnderpleia2, What is US size? Is it larger than A4?07:04
pleia2AussieDownUnder: wider and shorter07:04
pleia2I've been collecting photos of the flyers used "in the wild" - none yet from outside the US07:05
elfypleia2: I suspect I'll be asking for a b1 rebuild being as how it's not turned up - should be one this evening for you :)07:05
AussieDownUnderpleia2, oh okay, the standard size here for flyers & letters is A4. Was gonna try & put one up on the shopping mall corkboard, maybe put a few in the letter boxes in my street, then print out a heap to hand out at my next group meetup.07:05
pleia2elfy: it's after 11pm for me, sleepytime soon07:05
pleia2AussieDownUnder: yeah, us USians have to be difficult, everyone else uses A407:05
elfytomorrow evening then :)07:05
pleia2elfy: yes!07:06
pleia2AussieDownUnder: and that sounds perfect :)07:06
elfyit's much too early for me to understand timezones ... 07:06
AussieDownUnderpleia2, so where could I upload a photo for you to collect of the ones I put up around town? Hopefully if I study & stay in a town 20mins away I can also put them up around the study buildings.07:06
pleia2AussieDownUnder: you can share it on flickr/google/fb or just email it to me: lyz@ubuntu.com and I'll share it around07:06
elfyknome: can I just request rebuild on the tracker - or do I have to go ask in -release?07:07
AussieDownUnderpleia2, it will also be a good test for my new printer that's been sitting in its box for 2 months.07:07
pleia2AussieDownUnder: nice07:08
AussieDownUnderpleia2, Added you to my contacts in my email so that I don't forget later, also sent you an email just as a test I guess.07:17
pleia2\o/07:17
AussieDownUnderFair well, be back later, I hath chores to do around my house.07:17
AussieDownUnderpleia2, erm what does that symbol mean? Rock n Roll hand signal?07:18
pleia2doh07:21
elfyI guess that symbol means - don't press here :p07:22
pleia2I think he meant my cheering \o/07:23
elfy:)07:23
elfyknome: requested rebuild via the tracker 07:38
Unit193Don't do "\o/" on Skype, it's a disco dude. :/07:54
elfyor just don't do skype :p07:54
astraljavaCouldn't you disable emoji in skype?08:04
Unit193Yes, but the person you are talking to still gets the wrong image.08:04
astraljavaOh ok. Blah.08:07
Unit193(Also why I'm using Skype.)08:08
Unit193Hmmm...  What I'm missing in datetime is a configurable number of clocks under the calendar if you click it, like in gsimplecal.09:01
Unit193(Is xfce4-datetime-plugin not the default?)09:01
AussieDownUnderAnyone in here actually on the xubuntu development team by any chance?09:03
elfylotsa09:04
elfythem09:04
Unit193^ He is.09:04
elfyso is he ^09:05
Unit193https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10202 like this I presume, if he's actually thinking of it like gsimplecal.09:05
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 10202 in General "Display multiple timezones" [Enhancement,New]09:05
Unit193<--- channel weirdo, actually.09:05
elfyAussieDownUnder: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/+members#active09:05
elfyUnit193: there is that too ... 09:06
Unit193ochosi: I suppose that's not something you'd like/be able to do? :)09:06
AussieDownUnderWell there you go, I've been talking to 1/4 of you without knowing. I must tell all of my friends how cool I am (kidding).09:07
Unit193Depends what you mean by Xubuntu dev team, but what's up?09:07
elfyany talk of voodoo and I'll be off 09:08
AussieDownUnder:O Was just listening to a Jake E Lee pre Ozzy Osbourne album with a song called Voodoo on it. Do De Do Do Do De Do Do (Twilight zone)09:11
AussieDownUnderDo you guys/gals all live near each other, ever met or do things together?09:11
Unit193Nope, nope, nope.09:12
Unit193(Those are for me, astraljava and knome are pretty close, or were.)09:13
elfyI'd say the same 09:13
Unit193Closest to me would have to be mica, I'd say.09:13
AussieDownUnderSo do yol just work on seperate elements of xubuntu or have a live contact when working on stuff?09:15
elfywe talk to each other in here 09:16
AussieDownUnderSwoit09:18
AussieDownUnderShould setup a TeamSpeak server so yous aren't completely text robots.09:19
AussieDownUnderDo you guys set your own dead lines for the xubuntu updates releases & o/s releases (eg, 14.04) or is there a bit of canonical input in those regards?09:22
elfywe work with the release schedule 09:23
elfyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule09:24
AussieDownUnderI was just looking at that. Pretty interesting, the more I log into xubuntu instead of windows the more I learn. Once most of my steam library is supported I'll be on here 24/709:25
elfyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument09:26
AussieDownUnderI think I've asked this before a couple of weeks ago but I'm probably more understanding of the inner clockworks of xubuntu now to understand whatever yol tell me. Is there something to install that when I press & hold the super key  will bring up a fancy screen which will tell me what hotkeys I have available, something that when I also change what my hotkeys do update automatically & display accurate hotkey list?10:21
ochosiwe had such a project in the works a longer while ago10:51
ochosibut got distracted by more important tasks10:52
slickymaster-job-queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Trusty Beta 1] (20140225) has been added11:26
slickymaster-job-queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop i386 [Trusty Beta 1] (20140225) has been added11:26
ochosihmm, light-locker-settings is still stuck in the queue11:29
sergio-br2hello11:39
sergio-br2hey ochosi, i did a request, take a look please11:39
sergio-br2i will return only after the beta 111:40
ochosisergio-br2: if you'11:42
ochosire referring to the mimes96 branch, i already reviewed and merged ;)11:42
ochosi(finally receiving email-notifications about merge-requests)11:42
* elfy would have swapped with ochosi ... 11:43
ochosielfy: swapped what?11:44
ochosilike changing places?11:44
elfygetting merge requests 11:44
elfyyea - you can get all the ones I get :)11:44
ochosihehe11:44
ochosisergio-br2: no worries, even if we don't finish all 96px mimes, this is *so* much better than what we had already...11:45
sergio-br2ok11:45
sergio-br2thanks11:46
ochosiso have a good time and talk to you when you're back11:46
ochosinot sure i'll get to much drawing myself11:46
ochosibut i'll try ;)11:46
sergio-br2it was fast11:46
sergio-br2wow11:46
sergio-br2ok11:47
sergio-br2thanks!11:47
ochosielfy: i've been working alone on the icon-theme for years now, it's really nice to finally get some merge-requests :>11:48
elfyI don't doubt that at all - I've watched you working on it alone for as long as I've been floating about :)11:49
* ochosi feels like elfy's truman show now11:49
elfyha ha ha 11:49
brainwash_ochosi: beta1 will ship with saucy's xubuntu-artwork package, is the new trusty one stuck in the queue?11:55
ochosiyup11:55
ochosisponsors queue11:55
brainwash_:(11:56
ochosibrainwash_: why not become a packager yourself and help out xubuntu? ;)12:02
slickymaster-jobbrainwash_: or even a bug triager?12:06
brainwash_or batman12:08
brainwash_:)12:08
brainwash_packaging is not enjoyable for me as of now12:08
brainwash_bug triager is on my todo list12:08
* elfy puts on installing beta head and is bored already 12:08
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AussieDownUnderperhaps yol could give me things to try & report?12:15
ali1234try to figure out why thunar crashes12:19
AussieDownUnderDon't even know what thunar is lol, I think I've seen it in the startup applications though12:26
AussieDownUnderYep it's in that auto start session thing12:27
AussieDownUnderWhat is Thunar?12:27
slickymaster-jobThunar is Xubuntu shipped file manager AussieDownUnder 12:28
AussieDownUnderotay cheers12:28
knomeochosi, hrrrr, why no tell me we have packages on the queue?12:44
elfywhat package do I need to report a bug for keyboard layout changing between the loginscreen and the desktop ... 12:46
elfyhi knome 12:46
knomehey elfy 12:46
knomeelfy, does keyboard layout changing work outside the greeter?12:47
elfyno even looking at that - when the desktop boots - keyboard is set to US 12:47
slickymaster-jobelfy: keyboard-configuration package?12:48
elfywhich works wonders when your password has symbols ... 12:48
elfypossibly slickymaster-job 12:49
slickymaster-jobelfy: FWIW https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard12:50
elfythanks slickymaster-job 12:50
ochosiknome: well you know we have >1 pkgs in the queue, it has been like that for quite a while12:52
ochosiknome: currently it's 7 (http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/)12:52
ochosiand since xubuntu-artwork wasn't as crucial for b1 as other things...12:53
knomeugh. right, but ugh12:55
ochosiit mostly contains icon-updates and the s/13.10/14.04/ in plymouth-text13:00
knomemhm13:01
knomeelfy, if you intend to do another respin, let me know first (because if you do, we'll get another package updated)13:01
elfyI doubt if I will - I was just wondering where our images had got to13:02
ochosiknome: frankly, what bothers me more is that light-locker-settings is still stuck in the upload queue13:02
ochosiali1234: you around? tedg just came online14:14
starratsgood morning everyone!  I have installed xubuntu 14.04 Alpha 2 and it's running pretty good.  But today 2 different times I get to the xubuntu desktop and my cursor is frozen, won't move, is there a quick fix for tha or ?  2nd question which is more mundane why abiword and not libreoffice package?14:46
holsteinyou mean, why not libreoffice by default?14:47
holsteinyou can install libreoffice easily from the repos.. abiword is the chosen default14:47
elfystarrats: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2014-January/009615.html14:48
starratsoka that's the mundane > I have no problem with that, more of a curiosity than any thing else holstein14:52
elfyas far as a2 is concerned - we've had numerous dailies since then - and if you've been updating you've not got a2 either14:52
elfyand we're looking at b1 now - do you see the same thing with that - if you do make sure you report it on the tracker14:52
holsteinstarrats: likely chosen in the first place for size and lightness14:53
starratsThank you elfy for that link I have read it and understand14:53
starratsBut my real question is why my cursor is frozen when I first turn my comp and go to xubuntu desktop?14:54
starratsIs there something I can do thru cli or ?14:54
holsteini would try an older kernel.. i would try a different session14:55
starratsokay will check for new updats, haven't since In stalled a few days ago and I got tons of updates/upgrades/dist-upgrades14:56
elfyochosi: well I checked LANG and locale - both report gb, odd15:00
ochosielfy: not odd, that means the greeter works15:01
ochosilocale != keyboard-layout15:01
ochosithe greeter only controls the locale at the moment15:01
elfyI meant the bug itself 15:01
elfywell locale might well be saying GB - but it's not - it's US 15:02
elfyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/1284635/comments/515:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1284635 in console-setup (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [Undecided,New]15:02
elfynever mind - reading != as = there 15:03
ochosiok :)15:04
ochosiali1234: so it seems we'll have to ship the workaround for now i guess15:04
elfyknome: what's your view on failing tests for the xfdesktop crash15:13
ochosiali1234: sorry, i seem to be forgetting all about the indicator-issues from one discussion to the next :/15:14
ali1234elfy: xfdesktop is fixed upstream, fwiw15:14
elfyali1234: thanks15:17
ali1234actually, got a link to the lp bug?15:17
elfyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/128250915:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1282509 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "xfdesktop crashed with SIGSEGV in xfce_desktop_refresh()" [Medium,Triaged]15:18
ali1234ah, already has the upstream report linked15:18
elfyoh yea - I'd have said that if I knew that's what you were after :)15:19
elfyali1234: be useful if someone else with a gb keyboard could confirm bug 128463515:19
ubottubug 1284635 in console-setup (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128463515:19
ali1234i haven't seen that15:20
ali1234but then i only login about once a month15:20
elfy:)15:20
ali1234i guess i can try the ISO15:20
ali1234there was a bug like this in ubuntu/unity, i think i mentioned it15:20
ali1234unless this is a new one15:21
elfypossibly remember you saying something15:24
elfynot even sure if I've reported it against the right package tbh15:24
ali1234well, i've got no idea. keyboard layouts is one thing i just don't understand15:26
ali1234!info console-setup15:27
ubottuconsole-setup (source: console-setup): console font and keymap setup program. In component main, is important. Version 1.70ubuntu7 (saucy), package size 1109 kB, installed size 1531 kB15:27
elfy:)15:28
ali1234yeah so console keymaps and X keymaps are totally different - that's one thing i do know15:30
ali1234i never did figure out how they relate though15:31
ochosigottcode: thanks for your email, just replied. mind if i ask you to review the upcoming merge-request that concerns the whiskermenu-settings?15:47
gottcodeochosi: sure thing, what is involved in that?15:49
ochosigottcode: not much, just the switch to defaults.rc in the xfce4-subfolder and checking whether i didn't mess up any options :)15:50
ochosialways better to have more pairs of eyes on changes15:50
gottcodehappy to help15:50
ochosithanks a bunch!15:50
gottcodeyou're welcome :)15:50
ochosion some days i really wish it would be possible to also search all the stuff that's in the settingsmanager from appfinder/whiskermenu15:51
gottcodeinteresting thought, not sure how I would go about adding that15:53
ochosiyeah, iirc it isn't really (easily) possible15:54
GridCubehttp://goput.it/es0f.png is this the wallpaper we are suppose to see on ubiquity?16:02
xnoxhehe16:03
xnoxit used to be something else.16:03
ochosiindeed16:04
GridCubeah... should the greeter be white?16:15
ochosiGridCube: semi-white16:16
slickymaster-jobhey GridCube selling yourself upstream?16:16
GridCube?16:16
GridCubeselling?16:16
ali1234ochosi: why wouldn't that be possible?16:16
ali1234if i can have them all on a menu, whiskermenu must be able to search them16:16
slickymaster-jobyeah, iso testing debian16:16
GridCubehttp://goput.it/jzmy.png16:17
slickymaster-job;)16:17
GridCubelike this?16:17
ochosiali1234: yeah, frankly, i've forgotten why it wouldn't work :>16:17
ochosiGridCube: yes16:17
GridCube:/ what happened to the pretty black  one16:17
brainwashali1234: still experimenting with thunar? maybe you could take a look at bug 880533 (in case you get bored of the memory corruption issue)16:25
ubottubug 880533 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Thunar reports Trash Empty when it is not" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88053316:25
brainwash:)16:25
ali1234hmm... that's ancient... sure it still happens?16:25
brainwashyes16:25
brainwashI marked my new report as dupe16:25
brainwashand there is also another user confirming it in 14.0416:26
GridCubeelfy, virtualbox only had one available resolution, http://goput.it/zmok.png , first opening showed that xfdesktop failed, http://goput.it/9piv.png , that did not show up in later boots, mugshot crashed everytime i tried to change the avatar,  http://goput.it/s1i9.png , the log off menu has a missmatching white border, http://goput.it/524b.png , also the already reported problems with wallpapers and abiwords ruler16:30
ali1234...i don't have a trash icon in the panel...?16:30
brainwashsidebar?16:30
ali1234oh wait, i see16:30
ali1234hmm... can't reproduce16:31
brainwashdid you relog?16:31
ali1234no16:31
brainwashdelete a file, relog, open thunar16:32
elfyGridCube: yea - I know all about vbox :| but it won't make any difference to running the tests16:33
GridCubebrainwash, tested the trash thing and it says i have 1 item if i reboot or relog, repeated the steps in the last comment of the bug16:34
brainwashGridCube: no, the logout dialog is meant to be this way, white + grey, just like the login box16:34
GridCube:/16:34
GridCubei wont even ask why16:35
* GridCube just dont get it16:35
GridCubeelfy, would this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1282509 be the same i saw as xfdesktop failing?16:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1282509 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "xfdesktop crashed with SIGSEGV in xfce_desktop_refresh()" [Medium,Triaged]16:36
elfyyea 16:36
elfyloads of dupes 16:37
elfyfixed upstream ali1234 tells me16:37
GridCubemy keyboard doesnt change, i've reloged like 10 times16:38
elfykeyboard layout do you mean? 16:38
GridCubei guess16:39
elfyperhaps it is just when you set kbd to gb 16:39
GridCubeso then i dont report the logout white borders?16:45
ochosiGridCube: that's the intended look16:45
GridCubebut it looks wrong16:46
GridCubegah, nevermind i wont report it16:47
* ochosi shrugs16:47
GridCubeyep thats exactly why it wont make any sense reporting it16:47
elfyochosi: is whisker-menu definitely replacing the old app menu? 16:54
knomeelfy, yes, that was decided on the meeting16:55
elfyok cool - just checking before I start looking at testcases 16:56
knomeelfy, we tweaked the settings a bit yesterday with ochosi, you probably want to make sure you are seeing the latest setup16:56
elfynot necessary atm 16:56
slickymaster-jobknome: did you just forgot https://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/+merge/208035 or is there something in there you wanted tweaked?17:00
knomeslickymaster-job, i just haven't got to it yet :)17:01
slickymaster-jobokie dokie17:02
elfyknome: actually I'll leave it for the moment and look when we've made a decision on what to have in favourites17:04
knomeelfy, we discussed that, but i'd be in touch with ochosi :)17:12
elfyyep17:14
Calinouwill there be site translations?17:30
knomeCalinou, if you are asking about xubuntu.org, doesn't look realistic for trusty17:31
CalinouOK17:33
Calinouoh, you're the website designer :D17:33
knomei am17:39
knomeochosi, GridCube pointed out in -offtopic that the greeter password field could be lighter compared to the background of the top part (compare how the search box stands out more in the settings manager)17:47
starratsI do not know if this 'useful feedback' but I still have a problem of a frozen cursor at start up on the xubuntu desktop, it's frozen in the middle of the page and nothing works, I have to 'hard crash my laptop to get to windows to do anything?  I believe this is useful feedback also.18:26
holsteinstarrats: on 14.0418:27
starratsyes holstein18:27
starratssorry forgot to mention that18:28
holsteincould be related to the graphics driver and the newer kernel..18:29
starratsis there anything I can do on my  laptop, like a cli thing18:30
starratsor the ubuntu software 18:31
holsteinstarrats: you can try confirming if its graphics related.. check tty after the lockup.. just keep updating.. try older kernels.. try newer ones. etc18:31
starratsah okay my friend18:32
starratsthank you18:32
pleia2social media-ed the need for testers18:34
holsteinstarrats: good luck18:34
starratsthank you18:35
starratsholstein was running updates/upgrades and a window popped up with a message to restart or ? one of these items xscreensaver or xlockmore, sorry I do not understand18:43
holsteinstarrats: its a commitment. running the pre-release :)18:48
elfyty pleia2 18:51
brainwashstarrats: cursor frozen in the middle of the page? you mean after the desktop has been fully loaded?18:54
brainwashelfy: maybe it's ibus changing your kb layout18:57
brainwashknome: can you link the beta 1 pad please?18:59
brainwashor anyone :)18:59
knome/lastlog beta119:00
knomehttp://pad.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu1404Beta119:00
elfybrainwash: I'm guessing that it must be :|19:00
brainwashknome: thanks19:01
brainwashheat level of the xfdesktop crash report goes through the roof :D19:04
starratsyes brainwash frozen in the middle after startup and on the xubuntu blue desktop19:14
brainwashstarrats: did you already report your issue on launchpad?19:15
Travisboy did I just get a big error on Trusty Tahr Alpha 2.  I had a "bad file" error pop up during install, shutting it down.19:18
knomeTravis, have you tried with the beta 1 image?19:18
elfyknome is too quick for elfy19:18
TravisNot yet, but am going to get it righ tnow.19:18
TravisWow, it's not even up on ubuntu's site.19:19
TravisAlpha 2 is19:19
elfyhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/312/builds19:20
Travisonly when going to this link:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/19:20
knomeTravis, it's not officially released, we're just testing the images19:20
Travisah19:20
knomeif you wish to help, speak to elfy on reporting results19:20
starratsbrainwash I tried to but launchpad wouldn't accept my password and when they sent me a code number to put in a new passowrd they still wouldn't let me in to report the bug, so it really never got reported because of those 2 problemsd19:34
Traviselfy:  I am at the selection screen, where I choose how to install Xubuntu.  I cannot get the "continue" button to light up, even after selecting "erase & reinstall"20:00
Traviselfy:  I got it working, by going back to a previous screen, then continuing the install.20:02
TravisElfy:  I am now getting a Errno 5 Input/Output error on 14.0420:09
Travisgrrrr20:09
elfythat's not sounding much fun - is this a dvd or usb? 20:10
Travisdvd20:10
elfydid you check the download?20:10
TravisYes20:10
elfyI'd check the dvd from the dvd boot menu - hit any key when it starts up - there's an option to check the dvd there20:12
elfywhen you see the human/kbd things at the bottom20:12
TravisRunning a checker on the iso again20:13
elfyyou checked the dvd already? thought you said you'd checked the download20:14
TravisI am doing it again, just to cover my rear end.20:15
TravisIt's a good ISO.20:16
TravisTime to do the on-disk check now.20:16
Travisok says it found an error in one file.20:21
elfyonly time I've got that error in the last 12 months is when I've whipped out the usb before it's ready for me to 20:21
TravisIt didn't tell me wihc one.20:21
Traviswhich*  The check went too fast.20:21
elfywell - reburn it 20:22
elfydo you not have usb capable h/ware ?20:22
Travisyes20:22
TravisMy issue is that I am currently on a Windows machine.20:22
elfy2 secs20:22
TravisI have been having trouble creating a bootbale usb stick that way.20:23
elfyhttp://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-windows-latest.exe20:23
elfytried unetbootin? never had it fail for me 20:23
TravisI did earlier and didn't have success, but will try agian.20:24
Travisagain*  dang fingers.20:24
elfyok - if not then you'll want to reburn it 20:24
Travishow much space would I need to make space for preserving files across reboots?20:25
elfyI never do - I only use it to install with - are you wanting to install TO the usb? 20:26
Travisno20:26
TravisI follow what you're saying.  If it's to act like a DVD, don't create any space.20:26
elfyaah ok - if you're just using it instead of dvd 20:26
elfyyea - that saved me tryping more :)20:27
Noskcajwhat do i have to do to replace xscreensaver with light-locker?20:28
elfypurge xscreensaver - light-locker I think is installed - check though20:28
elfythen if you want to try the -settings app the ppa info is in a mail I did to -devel recently20:29
elfysudo add-apt-repository ppa:light-locker-settings-team/stable20:35
Noskcajok, thanks20:36
NoskcajIs it worth me trying to get the xfdesktop4 fix straight to ubuntu, or do we have time to wait for debian?20:37
elfyI'd talk to knome about that20:37
elfyit does need doing though - ringing bells with jenkins as well 20:37
elfy:)20:38
knomeNoskcaj, if it doesn't look realistic that it'll land to ubuntu before b2 via debian, then apply it directly.20:58
Noskcajok20:59
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Traviselfy:  so far so good on the install.21:32
elfyTravis: excellent - did you get unetbootin to work ok for you?21:32
Travisyes21:32
elfynice 21:33
TravisI am trying out the 64 bit edition.  I have notice a couple of oddities.21:34
elfyyou going to report them? 21:34
TravisI don't know if it's a true error or my mistake.21:35
elfythere are reports on the tracker - you could look at what's been reported21:35
TravisDoesn't look like it's a OS fault.  Looks like it's mine.21:37
TravisIf I let the install sit too long without acting, I've had to go back one screen, then back to the screen I was just on, to continue.21:37
elfymmm 21:37
elfyshouldn't have to do that - it might black screen from the screensaver is all 21:37
Travisok.  I was rather surprised to see the Debian swirl on the desktop.  I am not used to seeing it on a Xubuntu desktop.21:39
Travisoff to play with 14.0421:41
elfymmm 21:44
elfywhy are people seeing that :|21:44
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