[17:36] <smoser> harmw_, around ?
[17:36] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1285185
[17:45] <harmw_> :)
[17:45] <harmw> doesn't look good
[17:55] <smoser> doesn't look good ?
[17:55] <smoser> oleg diagnosed the failure well
[17:55] <smoser> ubuntu shows 'inet addr:xx.yy', freebsd shows 'inet xx.yy'
[17:55] <smoser> i'm thinking of doing a more specific hack
[17:55] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7001006/
[17:55] <harmw> no no, the bugreport is excellent
[17:56] <harmw> its just a shame I allowed it to break
[17:56] <smoser> compared to oleg's solution which was to allow overriding fields
[17:56] <harmw> inet 10.14.92.96  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 10.14.92.255
[17:56] <harmw> thats Fedora
[17:58] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7001019/
[17:58] <smoser> i'll update the comment then. seems freebsd is that also, no ?
[17:58] <smoser> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2011-April/035015.html
[17:59] <harmw> inet 10.9.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.9.0.255
[17:59] <harmw> freebsd 10
[17:59] <smoser> right.
[17:59] <smoser> so we're not handling the hex on freebsd
[17:59] <smoser> which is fine
[17:59] <smoser> well, not fine, but another bug
[18:00] <smoser> does this look reasonable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7001024/
[18:00] <smoser> (reasonable as a "just get something to fix this")
[18:03] <harmw> hm yes
[18:03] <harmw> btw, which net-tools version does ubuntu install?
[18:04] <smoser> harmw, can you pastebin ifconfig output on a freebsd?
[18:04] <smoser> $ dpkg-query --show net-tools
[18:04] <smoser> net-tools	1.60-25ubuntu2
[18:04] <harmw> centos 6 ships with that version aswell, showing addr:
[18:05] <harmw> fedora 19 installs 2.10-alpha
[18:05] <kwadronaut> harmw: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ you can find it there for the different ones
[18:05] <harmw> h ok
[18:05] <smoser> well, collect whatever you have easy access to
[18:06] <smoser> we really should have tests for this with examples
[18:06] <harmw> +1
[18:06] <kwadronaut> it's going to stick to 1.60 for the next couple of years in ubuntu methinks
[18:10] <harmw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7001095/
[18:12] <smoser> harmw, thanks
[18:39] <harlowja> harmw just checked with sean, he'll be back tommorow, he was on vacation, still catching back up
[18:39] <harlowja> told him the cloud-init channel misses him
[18:39] <harlowja> lol
[18:39] <harmw> ok, great
[18:41] <harlowja> so i guess after he gets back into the swing of things he'll be back on here
[18:43] <harmw> yea :)
[19:45]  * seanwbruno returns from the madness
[19:46] <harlowja> seanwbruno harmw woot
[19:46] <harlowja> welcome back from the other side
[19:46] <seanwbruno> dude
[19:46] <seanwbruno> its dark over there.
[19:46] <harlowja> come out of your cave?
[19:46] <harlowja> lol
[19:46] <harlowja> are they putting u in the basement again seanwbruno ?
[19:47] <harlowja> *did they take your redstapler?
[19:47] <seanwbruno> nah, was away from the office for a week.
[19:47] <seanwbruno> also, is EVERYONE sick here in Sunnyvale?
[19:47] <seanwbruno> geezus.
[19:47] <harlowja> ya, i had sniffles yesetday, seems better today
[19:48] <harlowja> seanwbruno u got all the legal stuff resolved, so u signed canonical stuff right?
[19:48] <harlowja> think u said something about that
[19:48] <seanwbruno> I got *approval* to sign it.
[19:48] <seanwbruno> I haven't done the deed yet or whatever
[19:48] <harlowja> ah, k, deed doing shouldn't be much then
[19:49] <harlowja> i think its just http://www.canonical.com/contributor-license-agreement/submit
[19:49] <harlowja> and put smoser as the project contact
[19:49]  * harlowja but i might be wrong, did that a long time ago
[19:50] <smoser> that sounds good enough
[19:50] <harlowja> k
[19:52] <harmw> ah nice, seanwbruno 
[19:52] <harmw> say harlowja , you happen to known anyone that did the openstack exams from red hat?
[19:53] <harlowja> is that like a doctor checkup harmw ?
[19:53] <harlowja> where RH is the doctor
[19:53] <harlowja> cough?
[19:53] <harmw> lol
[19:53]  * harlowja didn't know there was an openstack exams
[19:53] <harlowja> wonders what that is
[19:53] <harlowja> lol
[19:54] <harmw> http://www.redhat.com/training/courses/ex210/
[19:54] <harlowja> interesting
[19:54] <harlowja> RH already has examns, crazy
[19:54] <kwadronaut> they fist did the cups training, and since then they *love* to print paper.
[19:54] <harlowja> i give u free exam
[19:54] <seanwbruno> ok, buttons "pushed" on launchpad and license signing thing.
[19:54] <harlowja> Price:$600 
[19:54] <harlowja> i give u examn for half off
[19:54] <harlowja> 300$
[19:54] <harlowja> josh discount
[19:54] <harmw> does that include a flight and hotel? :>
[19:55] <harlowja> :-/
[19:55] <harlowja> virtual flight
[19:55] <harlowja> virtual hotel
[19:55] <harmw> hehe
[19:55] <harlowja> harmw so thats a negative, don't know anyone
[19:55] <harmw> :)
[19:56] <harlowja> for 300$ i give u history of openstack and for $350 i can give u a video of me that explains openstack
[19:56] <harlowja> lol
[19:56] <harmw> lol
[19:56] <harlowja> including bonus material
[19:56] <harlowja> PG-13
[19:56] <harmw> 13?
[19:56] <harlowja> lol
[19:56] <harmw> nvm thn 
[19:56] <harmw> :p
[19:57] <harlowja> u got me interested, i wonder what is in this exam, lol
[19:57]  * harlowja wonders if i would pass
[19:57] <harmw> well, me to
[19:58] <harmw> though I'm not realy into classroom training in this case, I'd rather just pick up a book on the subject
[19:58] <harlowja> def, and the last book that i saw was a copy/paste of the openstack docs
[19:58] <harlowja> lol
[19:58] <harmw> :|
[19:58] <harlowja> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920021674.do
[19:58] <harlowja> i never understood that book
[19:58] <harlowja> came out in 2011, when openstack still figuring itself out
[19:59] <harmw> jeez
[19:59] <harlowja> was pretty much online docs with some comments
[19:59] <harlowja> was weird, lol
[19:59] <harmw> i can imagine
[19:59] <harmw> http://www.redhat.com/training/courses/cl210/course-exam-outline
[20:00] <harlowja> interesting
[20:00]  * harlowja not sure i'd pay 600$ for that, if u know the right people u can get it for free, lol
[20:00] <harlowja> i've done all the install, configure, package stuff with http://anvil.readthedocs.org/ ,lol
[20:00] <harmw> hehe, does that include the piece of paper as well?
[20:01] <harlowja> u got a printer harmw ?
[20:01] <harlowja> lol
[20:01] <harmw> :p
[20:02] <harlowja> seems like an introductory course though
[20:02] <harlowja> how to install, and do basic management
[20:02] <harmw> looks quite like it indeed
[20:02] <harlowja> u get to Y! office, give u josh discount
[20:02] <harlowja> lol
[20:03] <seanwbruno> "training includes free lunch in Y! cafeteria"
[20:03] <harmw> yeah, but let me get some weeks vacation for that first - plus flight money :p
[20:03] <harlowja> and free bathroom usage
[20:03] <harlowja> no fees
[20:04] <harmw> Price:2465 
[20:04] <harmw> thats for the online tut
[20:04] <harmw> *tutorial
[20:05] <harmw> includes a hdd though :>
[20:05] <harmw> 'Upon submitting your registration and payment, you will receive an e-mail notification with instructions on how to access course content. Approximately 3-4 business days after, you will receive the pre-loaded hard drive via priority mail.'
[20:05] <harlowja> for real?
[20:05] <harmw> http://www.redhat.com/training/courses/cl210r/
[20:06] <harlowja> bahaha
[20:06] <harlowja> thats funny
[20:06] <harlowja> i guess they aren't using there own dogfood
[20:06] <harlowja> seems like u could host the class in a openstack cloud
[20:06] <harlowja> and provide people with snapshots
[20:07] <harlowja> and provide people access to the snapshot with the class + software on it
[20:07] <harmw> I see you can pretty easily roll a y! thingy yourself :p
[20:08] <harlowja> likely
[20:13] <harmw> btw, I'm still having timout between nova and neutron causing all kinds of mayhem
[20:13] <harmw> moving keystone to a dedicated piece of hw didnt help afterall
[20:31] <harlowja> harmw ah, neutron
[20:32] <harlowja> what kind of timeouts, boot timeouts?
[20:32] <harlowja> harmw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74832/
[20:32] <harlowja> that might help u ;)
[20:34] <harlowja> i bet they won't tell u that in the RH training, that nova <-> neutron is racy, lol
[20:34] <harmw> when I boot a new instance, everything goes just fine - up until cloud-init contacts the nova's metadata api, which in fails becaus it can't communicate with neutron. Running a curl against it later on when the instance has given up on metadata it runs ok 
[20:35] <harmw> lol!
[20:35] <harmw> let me dig up the exact error
[20:35] <harmw> (ill read up on that review in a sec)
[20:36] <harlowja> harmw its proably due to that race
[20:36] <harlowja> 'Make libvirt wait for neutron to confirm plugging before boot'
[20:36] <harlowja> :)
[20:37] <harlowja> so nova can boot before the VIF is plugged, and if the VIF isn't plugged it would make sense that during boot it can't talk to any metadata 
[20:37] <harlowja> or anywhere else actually
[20:38] <harmw> indeed, but in this case the instance does manage to contact nova
[20:38] <harmw> its nova that in turn can't communicate with neutron
[20:38] <harlowja> hmmm
[20:38] <harmw> 2014-02-16 10:58:04.683 26729 DEBUG nova.network.neutronv2 [req-55651799-a048-479a-8366-5b9ba38042b6 None None] XXX failed: Connection to neutron failed: timed out _get_auth_token /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/nova/network/neutronv2/__init__.py:49
[20:38] <harmw> 2014-02-16 10:58:04.685 26729 ERROR nova.network.neutronv2 [req-55651799-a048-479a-8366-5b9ba38042b6 None None] Neutron client authentication failed: Connection to neutron failed: timed out
[20:39] <harmw> (the XXX is a personal debug line)
[20:40] <harmw> 2014-02-16 10:58:04.687 26729 ERROR nova.api.metadata.handler [req-55651799-a048-479a-8366-5b9ba38042b6 None None] Failed to get metadata for instance id: 506b3116-bae2-4729-9cdd-6147e720ab1d
[20:40] <harmw> 2014-02-16 10:58:04.687 26729 TRACE nova.api.metadata.handler ConnectionFailed: Connection to neutron failed: timed out
[20:42] <harlowja> hmmmm
[20:42] <harlowja> def weird
[20:43] <harlowja> harmw u might try the #openstack-nova channel
[20:43] <harmw> k, will do
[20:43] <harlowja> *i mean
[20:43] <harlowja> the #openstack-neutron channel
[20:43] <harlowja> or both
[20:44] <harlowja> :-P
[20:44] <harmw> ah yea, thats exactly why I just love openstack
[20:44] <harlowja> so many channels
[20:44] <harlowja> lol
[20:44] <harmw> indeed, indeed
[20:46] <harlowja> harmw neutron is working otherwise right?
[20:47] <harmw> yea yea
[20:47] <harlowja> ya, weird then
[20:47] <harmw> like i said, i can curl 169.xxx just fine afterwords
[20:47] <harlowja> under heavy load?
[20:47] <harmw> haha, definately not :p
[20:47] <harlowja> odd :(
[20:47] <harlowja> bb
[20:49] <harmw> nova list just took 21s... I rly need new hw
[21:01] <harmw> [!!] Joins performed without indexes: 172265
[21:02] <harmw> thats just awfull (from mysqltuner.pl)
[21:29] <smoser`> harlowja, did you find something ?
[21:29] <smoser`> ont he above?
[21:37] <harlowja> smoser??
[21:37] <smoser> err.. harmw i meant.
[21:37] <harlowja> k
[21:37] <harmw> I only just askd in #openstack-neutron
[21:37] <harmw> about mysql, I configured it to log not-indexe stuff
[21:37] <harlowja> harmw i think part of the issue with nova list is that it just sucks
[21:37] <harlowja> lol
[21:37] <harlowja> don't try to list all the things
[21:37] <harlowja> lol
[21:37] <harmw> i only have 4 instances...
[21:37] <harlowja> oh
[21:37] <harlowja> lol
[21:38] <harmw> its my homelab :)
[21:38] <harlowja> i know ~1000 i gets bad
[21:38] <harlowja> *it gets
[21:38] <harlowja> *or did once
[21:38] <harlowja> might be fixed now
[21:38] <harlowja> https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1176446 ?
[21:39] <harlowja> see last comment
[21:39] <harmw> shm
[21:41] <harmw> so according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1228384 that should be in havana 2013.2.2
[21:41] <harlowja> seems like it
[21:41] <harmw> ah, and was release last week or so
[21:42] <harlowja> ah
[21:42] <harlowja> there u go
[21:42] <harmw> let's see if those are in the RDO repo
[21:42] <harlowja> ah, RDO
[21:43] <harmw> since feb 14
[21:43] <harmw> nice
[21:44] <harlowja> if u want newer repositories, my anvil project buidls rpms 
[21:44] <harlowja> and can build the newer versions ;)
[21:44] <harlowja> automagically, ll
[21:44] <harlowja> *lol
[21:44] <harmw> nice :)
[21:44] <harlowja> someday i'll get there redhat people to use it
[21:44] <harlowja> https://anvil.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html#building
[21:44] <harmw> but for now Ill stick to rdo, and patch/build whatever I need myself 
[21:44] <harlowja> k
[21:44] <harlowja> np
[21:48] <harmw> ah, I did patch build something myself, to patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1251459
[21:48] <harmw> should've done that before running the update though :p