[00:37] <MYMEME> HAIL
[00:38] <LjL-Calvino> hej
[00:38] <MYMEME> are you going to shoot me?
[00:38] <LjL-Calvino> that seems unlikely, because of many distinct reasons
[00:39] <chu> Nah man, but seriously, you were warned and just kept repeating yourself. No one *likes* having to use their "powers" but it's necessary when the users just want to be a pain.
[00:39]  * MYMEME loves the colloquial tone
[00:39] <jbroome> bullets don't work over tcp/ip, yet
[00:39] <LjL-Calvino> yes that's one reason
[00:40] <LjL-Calvino> chu: i like to use my "powers", but only when with the right company
[00:40] <chu> ;)
[00:41] <bazhang> is emacs involved?
[00:41] <LjL-Calvino> that's like my kryptonite
[00:41] <MYMEME> seem iv made it upstream now im on ops social channel
[00:41] <bazhang> thank god
[00:41] <LjL-Calvino> MYMEME: so like
[00:41] <chu> MYMEME: This isn't the social channel.
[00:41] <LjL-Calvino> chu: wait, it isn't?
[00:41]  * LjL-Calvino looks at the map again
[00:41] <LjL-Calvino> chu: told you we needed a GPS!
[00:41] <chu> What's the other hidden one for then?!
[00:42] <LjL-Calvino> chu: i never knew
[00:42] <LjL-Calvino> MYMEME: so anyway
[00:42] <jbroome> MYMEME: did you have a support issue that's #ubuntu related?
[00:42] <LjL-Calvino> flooding with ascii art = trolly, but maybe-i-will-see-if-he's-fun
[00:43] <LjL-Calvino> repeatedly likening people to serial killers = trolly, and i will ban you with some amount of pleasure
[00:43] <LjL-Calvino> get the difference?
[00:43] <LjL-Calvino> jbroome: what now
[00:43] <MYMEME> your going to break the toy
[00:43] <MYMEME> if you keep kicking it
[00:43] <LjL-Calvino> true
[00:43] <LjL-Calvino> that's why this time i just decided to lock the toy out of the child's reach!
[00:44] <LjL-Calvino> me being both the guardian and the child
[00:44] <chu> I'd say it's not worth it. he's just gonna be a pain.
[00:44] <LjL-Calvino> chu: that's what people said about hfsplus!
[00:44] <LjL-Calvino> and look now... oh, wait
[00:45] <MYMEME> self censure will help you see god
[00:45] <LjL-Calvino> censorship*, i believe
[00:45] <LjL-Calvino> but maybe censure means something else
[00:46] <MYMEME> yes your lordship
[00:46] <LjL-Calvino> also wait, that's very much hfsplus-like... hmmmm, HMMMMMM
[00:46] <chu> Don't think English as a first-language; he's Portuguese.
[00:46] <LjL-Calvino> well, several people here don't have English as a first language, as they're American, so that's okay
[00:47] <MYMEME> im just an uneducated peasant looking for enlightment
[00:47] <MYMEME> SIR
[00:47] <chu> I don't think anything constructive will come of this, you know my feelings, I'll leave it to you LjL.
[00:47] <LjL-Calvino> constructivism is overrated
[00:49] <LjL-Calvino> mymeme, what if you just go back to #freenode, wait for the mute to be lifted by timer, and troll some more? honestly it should be easier than getting me to remember the command to even op myself up again
[00:50] <MYMEME> oh the command line is wicked mistress
[00:50] <MYMEME> a*
[00:50] <LjL-Calvino> yes; true
[00:51] <MYMEME> why im i sounding like Oliver twist?
[00:51] <LjL-Calvino> maybe you wanted to give your trolling a twist
[00:52] <MYMEME> not the kane i beg of you sir
[00:52] <LjL-Calvino> MYMEME: seriously though, i gave you a fair amount of chances to be a "funny troll" in #ubuntu-offtopic, but eh, it didn't work. the ban won't be removed very soon, so when the wind is right, sail off this channel to better shores
[00:53] <MYMEME> like clockwork
[00:54] <MYMEME> i will join ASAP
[00:57] <MYMEME> im sorry i couldn't be more of an amusement
[00:57] <MYMEME> ill use this time to apply me self to it
[00:58] <LjL-Calvino> MYMEME: there's some real chances i'll be a banned outcast next time you drop by, so maybe the roles will switch!
 chu: i think i told you that i'd rather be the wall
[01:36] <rww> everybody wants to be me
[01:36] <chu> The boss
[12:50] <k1l> @mark #ubuntu ned channel ads
[17:42] <bazhang> I joined #rhel , he's still not there
[17:43] <bazhang> they mostly just exchange imgur links it seems
[17:43] <Pici> sadtux?
[17:43] <genii> Do you need to be authed or registered of Freenode to join?
[17:43] <bazhang> yep
[17:44] <bazhang> +r
[17:44] <genii> Could be that's his/her issue
[17:44] <bazhang> although someone in #ubuntu already gave him the exact info
[17:44] <Pici> We probably should at least give them !register then
[21:46] <petergriffinre> hi ljl
[21:49] <LjL-Calvino> hi
[21:49] <LjL-Calvino> which one are you?
[21:50] <LjL-Calvino> tell me you're hfsplus, you're basically the only one i like these days :(
[21:53] <petergriffinre> yes
[21:53] <LjL-Calvino> cool
[21:53] <LjL-Calvino> how are you?
[21:54] <LjL-Calvino> i drove back in some really scary rain earlier
[21:55] <LjL-Calvino> got ALL the weather today. first rain, then rainbow, then thunderstorm, then hail
[21:56] <Corey> Could we maybe keep this topical, please?
[21:56] <JohnCalvin> I am considering being a calvinist
[21:57] <Corey> trijntje: Did you need help with something?
[21:57] <Pici> Is there a channel issue we can help you with?
[21:57] <JohnCalvin> me?
[21:57] <JohnCalvin> Im just talkin wit me homey ljl
[21:57] <Pici> yes.
[21:57] <Pici> Then you can do so in private.
[21:57] <Corey> JohnCalvin: Please do so elsewhere.
[21:58] <LjL-Calvino> Corey: i'm pretty sure that will almost certainly help with the frequency of his actively trolling "real" channels decreasing
[21:59] <Corey> LjL-Calvino: I didn't realize we were unilaterally authorized to change this channel's policy.
[21:59] <LjL-Calvino> oh god
[22:00] <LjL-Calvino> say the word "policy" again please
[22:00] <Corey> LjL-Calvino: Perhaps it's time you took a break?
[22:00] <Pici> LjL-Calvino: can you please join us in #ubuntu-irc-council ?
[22:13] <LjL> Corey, our overarching "policy", maybe the only one that can actually be called such, is the CoC (as many people have loved to remind me lately, though maybe without giving much thought to its interpretation).
[22:13] <LjL> What we have in our channels are "guidelines" and, at best, habits, and things like what channel topics say don't even necessarily qualify as either.
[22:13] <LjL> In particular, this channel has had "offtopic" conversations since it started existing, and while ops have sometimes asked each other to take them elsewhere, it was only rarely perceived as a big deal.
[22:13] <LjL> Now, lately my particular personal "policy" with this particular troll (HFSPlus, or pick the name you like) has been to be friendly and humorous.
[22:13] <LjL> That is a policy that seems to have worked to some extent, as people who have followed the "case" probably can confirm.
[22:13] <LjL> The very first bullet point in the CoC is "Be considerate". While I recognize that will sound ironic for me to point out given recent events, MY very point is that, by sticking to "policies", "processes" and bureaucracies (more often than not, made-up or inconsistent one), "our team" has now been FAR from considerate in many ways.
[22:14] <LjL> I felt I was considerate by using my *common sense* (which I've insisted on for a long time now, but have seen little more than lip service to it, and am now tired of even applying towards the team itself) to pick the seemingly most appropriate way to minimize the disruptions caused by this troll, *and attempt to catalyze* at the same time (as freenode "policy" asks, though that's only interpreted in a very literal way too).
[22:14] <LjL> Manhandling people is not catalyzing - nor considerate.
[22:18] <Pricey> WTH is going on?
[22:19] <IdleOne> right now, nothing. Everybody please relax.
[22:20] <Pricey> IdleOne: Happy to relax but come on ;)
[22:21] <Pici> The situation is being discussed elsewhere, lets all take a breath and relax for a few.
[22:21] <IdleOne> Pricey: yup. Please just let us all leave it at that for now.
[22:23] <LjL> Pricey: i think you can take the above at face value anyway, unless i'm even crazier than people lead me to believe, i thought it sounded like a considerate explanation of how i feel about some of the team's customs
[22:24] <IdleOne> I would really appreciate (and for the 3rd time) let us all drop this in here for now. Thank you.
[22:24] <Pricey> LjL: I thought I'd kept track of the general idea of what was happenning... but the last 30 minutes... I cannot understand.
[22:26] <LjL> Uhm, I would appreciate not being told which op matters I can or cannot discuss with other ops, at least while I'm an op, in the ops channel, especially if they are not clear on what's happening. Surely this place is meant to be transparent, and Pricey and I haven't exchanged anything controversial, inappropriate or private?
[22:27] <IdleOne> I am just trying to avoid anything negative from occurring at this time and would like you and the IRCC to focus on the council channel