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darkxstcan we get gnome-shell unblocked?02:37
darkxstFor Bug 128449602:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 1284496 in casper (Ubuntu) "Booting the Ubuntu GNOME live DE from the advanced boot menu results in a largely unusable DE" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128449602:38
stgrabersure, I'll let it through02:47
infinityUnfortunately stuck behind a security update of doom on powerpc.02:52
infinityScored it up to see if it can get lucky.02:53
darkxstthanks guys03:02
jdstrandinfinity: if you want to kill the powerpc build on say saucy or quantal, feel free and we/I can restart it later03:39
* jdstrand drifts off03:40
jdstrand(I'll check on it later)03:40
infinityjdstrand: Shouldn't be necessary.  Got gnome-shell built.03:49
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seb128would it be possible to unblock indicator-datetime if there there are respins planned (not sure on what basis we unblock things nowadays ;-)09:18
seb128the update fixes some segfault issues which are not hitting quite some users09:18
infinityseb128: Mostly up to stgraber.09:21
Laneyinfinity: have you seen http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/trusty/ubuntu-server-omap4/latest/livecd-armhf.out ?09:22
LaneyLooks like component-mismatches to me09:22
infinityLaney: No.  server-omap4 and server-omap just need love (or dropping) in general.09:22
infinityLaney: I need to see if anyone's actually still using those images (QA might be), and then decide which route to take.09:23
LaneyI hear that09:23
LaneyEvery day I get a mail for the build failure. :)09:23
infinityServes you right for signing up for livefs build failures. :)09:23
LaneyIt's often stuff that's fixable for me09:24
LaneyBut yeah. Trying to build images over and over which aren't going to work seems less than ideal.09:26
infinityFeel free to uncron them for now to reduce the noise.09:28
infinityBut I need to either fix or drop them, this was a post-FF TODO item for me.09:28
ograinfinity, is there any chance we could get the pulseaudio from proposed into the archive (i need to build a new touch image and it fixes a CPU hog that makes a test fail)09:47
ogra(afaik trsalveti and diwic tested the binary on phone and desktop)09:48
infinityogra: That's up to stgraber and the flavours doing beta.09:49
ograah, i thought you both do it09:50
ograsorry then09:50
infinityNah, I'm staying away from alphas and betas I'm not signed up for.09:50
ograright, i'll just do a build without the fix then09:50
xnoxLaney: hm. d-i components should always be frozen at milestones. I thought grub-installer was frozen, but it wasn't.10:52
Laneyxnox: hmm, I guess11:07
Laneypatches to generate-freeze-block welcome :)11:07
Laneycan someone look at the trusty-proposed NBS packages from dolfin on arm64 please?11:13
infinityLaney: Sure.11:13
infinityErr, why only arm64, I wonder?11:14
infinityWeird.  Maybe it never migrated.11:15
infinityRemoving the NBS.11:15
LaneyYeah, dunno11:15
Laneyta11:15
infinityFixed.11:15
seb128infinity, do you know about "out of date on ppc64el: empathy, empathy-dbg, mcp-account-manager-goa, nautilus-sendto-empathy (from 3.8.6-0ubuntu4) "? where https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/3.8.6-0ubuntu4 is not having a ppc64el build?11:17
seb128infinity, (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#empathy)11:17
infinityseb128: It's out of date because it's out of date...11:19
infinityIt used to build before its rdeps disappeared.11:19
infinity(In the previous archive, before the rebuild)11:19
seb128infinity, well, 3.8.6-0ubuntu4 had the same issue, how can it be a regression in the new revision?11:19
infinityseb128: I'll fix that up tomorrow.11:19
seb128infinity, thanks11:19
infinityOr, later today.11:20
infinityseb128: Also, I was going to yell at you for some recent upload with arch restrictions instead of build-dep hacks...11:20
infinityWhich one was that?11:20
Laneyhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/trusty-changes/2014-February/010640.html11:21
infinityOh, right, gnome-control-center-signon11:21
seb128I hate that package11:21
infinity"arm64 used to build but doesn't have qt5", that was the whole POINT of the build-dep hack.11:21
seb128shrug11:21
infinityTo make it stop building on arches where it would subsequently be uninstallable.11:21
seb128well, that creates issue that I don't know how to resolve11:22
infinityAnyhow, most of this faff should go away (I hope) with qt5.2, we really need to get that in soon.11:22
seb128e.g britney was unhappy about empathy depending on libaccount-plugin-1.0-0 on arm6411:22
seb128that wouldn't exist anymore11:22
infinityAnd we can stop having half our desktop arch-restricted.11:22
LaneyI saw some requests for QA reports and all sorts of stuff for Qt 5.2 earlier on11:22
seb128right11:22
LaneySo I'm not sure if that is close...11:22
infinityseb128: Right, empathy's deps there either should be arch-restricted, or it should just not exist on those arches (like it doesn't on ppc64el).11:23
seb128Laney, Pat started pushing thing yesterday, let's see what happens next11:23
seb128Laney, (I hinted that they might miss trusty if they don't start making progresses soon)11:23
infinityLaney: We all need to push to make it closer, IMO.  Anything anyone can do to help them fix things up.11:23
seb128infinity, right, so I should have deleted the empathy arm64 old binaries?11:24
seb128infinity, and I think empathy is not alone11:24
seb128tracking those issues down seems a waste, we just need to land qt5.2 as you said11:24
seb128meanwhile the g-c-c-signon arch restriction is the cheap and easy workaround11:24
LaneyPushing good, shifting sands bad11:24
infinityseb128: We get to rebuild all the qt5 rdeps for the armhf ABI break anyway, so that'd be a good time for people to go through and drop all the arch restrictions at the same time and see how well the new world order works.11:26
infinityseb128: Maybe I should try this in a PPA with PPC and arm64 enabled and see how bad/good the situation is.11:26
seb128right11:27
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mapreriCan you unblock qemu? it's mainly for bug #128434416:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 1284344 in qemu (Ubuntu) "qemu-user-aarch64: dns is broken" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128434416:01
ograstgraber, any chance that we can get the pulseaudio fix in ? i belive diwic and rsalveti tested on phone and desktop before uploading16:07
stgraberqemu and pulseaudio unblocked16:12
* ogra hugs stgraber 16:12
maprerithanks stgraber :)16:27
seb128stgraber, what are the current rules/can we get packages in or does that mean respinning isos if we do? the indicator-datetime update in proposed fixes some common segfault16:33
seb128stgraber, unity-control-center has some changes that would be nice to push to users so they test that new version, but if that's after beta it's not the end of the world16:33
seb128stgraber, having unity in could be nice as well, since that enable the scaling option for HiDPI16:33
Laneyhaha16:33
seb128Laney, what? ;-)16:34
stgraberseb128: it doesn't mean respinning ISOs but it means that if anything breaks as a result of me letting the package in, I'll be very very unhappy ;)16:34
seb128stgraber, don't worry, it's only good code :p16:35
stgraberI'll look at indicator-datetime, the rest sounds like it can wait until after we lift the freeze16:35
* seb128 crosses finger there are no bugs16:35
seb128stgraber, fair enough, thanks16:35
Laneyseb128: I just found listing all your uploads funny :P16:36
seb128Laney, "all", it was just a nicely selected set :p16:36
Laneystgraber: I think everyone's been staying away from unblocking stuff in 'your' beta, but that seems like a quite conservative approach... would you have minded if others did some unblocks?16:37
LaneyI'd have considered pulseaudio and datetime16:37
seb128it's a bit of a shame that we beta test an unity version which doesn't include HiDPI, that testing is not as useful as it could be, but I guess it's the unity's team fault for not landing it before the freeze16:37
stgraberLaney: I don't mind other members unblocking things so long as they actually look at the diffs and are 99.9% sure this won't cause changes/regressions16:38
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Laneynod, that'd be my approach16:40
Laneycheers16:40
xnoxseb128: ubuntu is not in a beta test, kylin/edubuntu are. Not sure it's nice to beta test unity in kylin/edubuntu milestones without ubuntu also participating.16:52
xnoxseb128: it would make more sense to "let new unity in, and respin ubuntu-desktop".16:52
RiddellLaney: should upgrade not be on the iso testing site for beta 1?16:53
LaneyRiddell: If you like, but don't ask me - I'm not involved with this beta. :)16:54
LaneyYou can put them up there if you know how16:54
infinityxnox: If you let it in, it affects the others if they need to respin for some unrelated reason16:54
RiddellLaney: oh yes, sorry :)16:55
seb128xnox, right, I know ubuntu isn't, meanwhile we run/test and unity version which is not the one we should be testing (we might hit bugs already fixed and not see bugs in the current version)16:55
Riddellstgraber: should upgrade not be on the iso testing site for beta 1?16:55
xnoxinfinity: yeah, my point is without ubuntu-desktop partitipating, you /only ever/ affect others16:55
stgraberRiddell: they probably should, let me add them16:55
xnoxseb128: i think we can wait till tomorrow's freeze block lift. ;-) still should be faster than ci-train unblock =))))16:56
seb128xnox, yeah, and build failed on ppc64el anyway, so need to fix that first16:56
stgraberRiddell: there you go16:57
infinityseb128: Oh, probably about time to ask for all those pre-landing PPAs to get ppc64el enabled.  We're not resource constrained anymore.16:58
Riddellstgraber: you meanie, you just gave me hours of extra testing to do!16:58
seb128infinity, speaking of which, do we have a porter box?17:02
infinityseb128: That's in progress today.  I'm about to nap, but will hopefully get together with an APAC GSA later tonight to make it go.17:03
infinityseb128: (And you get a powerpc porter box for free out of the deal)17:03
seb128cool17:04
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directhexso what's the quickest way to get mono ppc64el removed from the archive? it's a blocker for -proposed transition, and i *really* want that unblocked for FFe reasons20:00
directhexi recognise that critical test suite failures should cause package build aborts. i'm discussing the best way to do that with upstream20:00
bdmurrayslangasek: can you merge this? https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/ubuntu-archive-tools/no-rate-increase/+merge/20844520:04
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NoskcajCan someone please approve bug 128293721:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 1282937 in xfburn (Ubuntu) "FFe: Please package xfburn 0.5.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128293721:13
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slangasekbdmurray: merged23:32
bdmurrayslangasek: thanks23:35
infinitydirecthex: So, would it hurt your feelings if I said the better option is that I'm having people looking into fixing mono on ppc64el?23:45
infinitydirecthex: Is it actively breaking anything if it's allowed to build there?23:45
directhexinfinity, more working arches is fabulous. but upstream have never looked at ppc64el - the fact that it even builds is accidental more than anything else23:46
infinitydirecthex: That didn't answer my question.23:48
infinitydirecthex: Does having mono broken in the way it is *actively break* other packages (ie: in the sense that they'd need to be rebuilt after mono was fixed), or just cause some/many of them to fail at runtime?23:48
directhexis it actively breaking anything? no23:48
infinitydirecthex: If they're just failing at runtime and a fixed mono would fix the world, I say we just let it build and work on fixing it.23:48
infinity(Which I have people looking into)23:49
directhexif leaf packages fail to build on ppc64el then, well, there's not much i can do about it23:49
infinitydirecthex: Failing to build is fine.  It's building incorrectly and needing a rebuild that's a mess to track down.23:49
infinitydirecthex: But as I understand mono, the latter shouldn't be the case.23:49
directhexinfinity, yeah, most of the packages are arch:all23:49
directhexand the ones that are arch:any, only the C portion varies between arches23:50
directhexwhere, surprisingly enough, it's gcc's problem if it's screwy23:50
directhexi guess technically there could be glue code which would need a rebuild... but i suspect the glue code is assuming the same size of C types as ppc64, which is correct23:51
infinityKay.  It's the cleanup of the arch:any stuff that I'm trying to avoid here (though will revisit if I have to, if mono isn't fixed by release).23:51
infinityCause tearing out all the arch:any binaries for mono rdeps would mean reuploading all those sources when mono is fixed.23:51

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