[00:48] <diddledan> my gps unit seems to be having issue getting a fix
[00:48] <diddledan> the RMC and GGA timestamps are pretty accurate, though but they appear to be the only things it's actually sensing
[01:11] <diddledan> omg, it's actually getting somewhere
[01:13] <diddledan> got five signals responding
[01:13] <diddledan> three
[01:13] <diddledan> hmmm
[01:15] <diddledan> that's better, I've oriented the unit a bit differently now
[01:16] <diddledan> AND I'm FIXED
[01:17] <diddledan> ok, I'm at Long 1.123546W and Lat 51.267931N
[01:17]  * diddledan needs a map to verify it
[05:44] <MartijnVdS> http://zachholman.com/posts/only-90s-developers/
[06:12] <mapps> good morning MartijnVdS
[06:42] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:43] <mapps> morning mate
[06:44] <MooDoo> lots on here this early :)
[06:48] <jussi> o/
[06:52] <mapps> im going to sleep soon..i work nights
[06:52] <mapps> jussi prob been up for ages:D is finland +2?
[06:52] <MooDoo> nn :)
[07:02] <jussi> mapps: yup
[07:17] <MartijnVdS> \o
[07:17] <MooDoo> morning MartijnVdS
[07:58] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:58] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon how goes the way?
[07:58] <MooDoo> war?
[07:58] <brobostigon> which war?
[08:06] <MooDoo> brobostigon: the war of life :)
[08:14] <MartijnVdS> the war of the worlds!
[08:16] <brobostigon> MooDoo: another ~60 years of slow motion train crash, when both the train will crash and death,
[08:20] <SuperMat1> morning
[08:20] <MartijnVdS> \o SuperMat1
[08:20] <MartijnVdS> you lost a t
[08:20] <SuperMat1> I did!
[08:20] <SuperMatt> phew
[08:20] <MooDoo> morning SuperMat1 how are you?
[08:21] <SuperMatt> I'm glad that's sorted
[08:21] <SuperMatt> I'm going
[08:21] <MooDoo> hows the job going?
[08:21] <SuperMatt> I'm good, is what I meant to type
[08:21] <SuperMatt> job is going well
[08:21] <SuperMatt> finally working as part of the team, rather than sitting through training!
[08:21] <MooDoo> brill
[08:21] <SuperMatt> how are you doing?
[08:21] <MooDoo> yeah ok thanks :D
[08:24] <SuperMatt> excellent :)
[08:27] <jussi> hrm, any piano players here? ikonia are you around ?
[08:27] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: I started a new website lol ubuntu.technology :D
[08:27] <jussi> MooDoo: hahah
[08:28] <SuperMatt> MooDoo: nice
[08:28] <jussi> MooDoo: I think we should buy Winfail.tech
[08:28] <jussi> and make a post your windows fails type website
[08:28] <jussi> you in? :D
[08:29] <MooDoo> jussi: lol sounds good :)  then people can upload their windows failure spotted images :) blue screens on cash machines or airport monitors lol
[08:29] <jussi> MooDoo: exactly
[08:30] <MooDoo> hehe
[08:43] <diplo> Morning all
[08:43] <MooDoo> morning diplo
[09:06] <jussi> I feel like garfield...
[09:06] <jussi> LASAGNE!!!!!!!!!
[09:06] <jussi> NOM!!!!!!
[09:08] <MooDoo> I've given up meat for the week
[09:09] <jussi> MooDoo: soy lasagne!
[09:09] <popey> mmmmm meat
[09:09] <popey> http://drool.popey.com/
[09:09] <MooDoo> just a personal challenge for the week
[09:09] <jussi> popey: I swear you must have an alias for that...
[09:10] <jussi> MooDoo: Ramen everyday.... :P
[09:14] <MartijnVdS> jussi: Windows everyday?!
[09:15] <jussi> MartijnVdS: ssh
[09:15] <MartijnVdS> jussi: not rdp?! ;)
[09:15] <jussi> lol
[09:15] <popey> jussi: i do not. i type it
[09:15] <popey> i do have *some* aliases. just not that one
[09:15] <jussi> MartijnVdS: you are in fine form today :)
[09:18] <jussi> popey: :D
[09:19] <popey>  (ʘ∇ʘ)ク 彡 ┻━┻
[09:19] <popey> for example
[09:19] <jussi> ᵔᴥᵔ
[09:19] <jussi> do you like my cat? :D
[09:19] <popey> awwwww
[09:20] <jussi> awww
[09:20] <MartijnVdS> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
[09:20] <popey> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
[09:20] <popey> \o/
[09:20] <MartijnVdS> ( ̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅ ̲̅]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅)
[09:20] <MooDoo> huh my irssi has just broke lol
[09:21] <MooDoo> everything has just corrupted :S
[09:21] <jussi> MooDoo: did the cat pee on it? :D
[09:21] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy For Pete’s Sake Day! :-D
[09:21] <MooDoo> jussi: lol
[09:21] <MooDoo> morning JamesTait
[09:21] <jussi> JamesTait: which pete? :P
[09:21] <MartijnVdS> JamesTait: Pete's japanese alcoholic drink?
[09:22] <JamesTait> jussi, I wish I knew.  A lot seems to get done for his sake.
[09:22] <jussi> JamesTait: hehe
[09:23] <jussi> I think maybe it isnt just MartijnVdS being in fine form today, its the whole channel! \o/
[09:23] <popey> MartijnVdS: is that a belt?
[09:23] <MooDoo> it's hump day, that's why everyone is excitable.
[09:24] <MartijnVdS> popey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive_bandage
[09:24] <popey> oh the new samsung
[09:24] <MartijnVdS> I've seen a few Samsung announcements this week. Which one?
[09:25] <MooDoo> getting pretty horrific reviews. lol
[09:25] <popey> MartijnVdS: https://plus.google.com/u/0/105555694224602845621/posts/4MMKEZdxqH5
[09:25] <jussi> hehe
[09:25] <MartijnVdS> popey: haha :) win
[09:25] <jussi> that was funny
[09:26] <popey> https://plus.google.com/u/0/105555694224602845621/posts/Wphm5bqFoqm also
[09:26] <MooDoo> popey: ah that's the one I was looking for lol
[09:26] <DJones> Must admit I'm glad I'm not due to upgrade phones yet, I want to see how the S5/New HTC One X/UBuntu phones compare
[09:27] <MartijnVdS> <ensue relentless mocking>
[09:28] <popey> hey, is there a quick way to generate ascii graphs?
[09:28] <popey> or even graphical ones, on the command line
[09:28] <MartijnVdS> popey: what's the source data?
[09:28] <MartijnVdS> just a bunch of numbers?
[09:28] <popey> i want to do "see how many files there are in each directory below me, and plot the number of them on a graph"
[09:28] <DJones> popey: Is there a rough idea (as in spring/summer/autumn) when the Ubuntu phone specs are likely to be released
[09:28] <popey> results of ls */*.click | wc -l
[09:29] <MartijnVdS> popey: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6949332/in-terminal-ascii-histograms-tool
[09:29] <MartijnVdS> popey: that links to https://github.com/bitly/data_hacks which looks like it would work
[09:29] <SuperMatt> ok, it's time for me to create an sdk app
[09:29] <SuperMatt> wish me luck o/
[09:30] <MartijnVdS> SuperMatt: Good luck!
[09:30] <popey> ok, will play
[09:30] <popey> ta
[09:30] <SuperMatt> It's  my monthly development day, so I'm going to write an app which can upload files to rackspace/openstack containers
[09:31]  * SuperMatt continues drinking the company coolaid
[09:31] <SuperMatt> Koolaid?
[09:31] <SuperMatt> I don't know
[09:31] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: dev day?  is that rackspaces equiv of googles 10% time?
[09:31] <SuperMatt> sure
[09:31] <MooDoo> awesome
[09:31] <SuperMatt> except it's totally not 10%
[09:31] <SuperMatt> probably closer to 2.5%
[09:31] <MooDoo> I know that's what google has, nearest thing I could relate it too
[09:32] <SuperMatt> I don't think they have it any more though
[09:32] <MooDoo> ah
[09:42] <diplo> Got my sisters S3 with cracked screen/lcd.. anyone know if there is a way to retreive contacts off ( she didn't sync anywhere and no sd card ) off of it, but it has a locked screen that I can't unlock
[09:42] <diplo> I've found a few ways like take motherboard out into another s3, undo certain cables etc
[09:42] <diplo> Not ideally what I'd like to do
[09:43] <dwatkins> I assume the screen being broken is the reason it won't unlock, diplo
[09:43] <diplo> Yep, I don't know if the lcd is working as I can't see anything, I'm guessing where the keypad is and typing but don't know :)
[09:43] <bashrc> what's the cheapest phone to test Ubuntu Touch on?
[09:44] <MartijnVdS> bashrc: an old Galaxy Nexus, but it'll be *slow*
[09:44] <bashrc> ah
[09:44] <bashrc> I was looking at the nexus prices.  They look super expensive
[09:45] <ali1234> diplo: there's various software that can bypass the keylock on samsung phones
[09:47] <MartijnVdS> bashrc: nah, nexuses are cheap compared to other phones really
[09:47] <ali1234> galaxy nexus isn't supported any more
[09:48] <diplo> Oh there is? My google foo is sucking this morning
[09:48] <bashrc> well, my current mobile phone cost £7 from the Tesco bargain bin :)
[09:48] <dwatkins> If you could unlock it, something like AirDroid would let you get the contacts off, but if that's not already installed (and running) I don't think you can get the contacts off the phone, as they're probably not stored on the MicroSD card.
[09:49] <diplo> Yeah, airdroid or the hdmi type cable
[09:49] <diplo> But neither are installed currently
[10:02] <dwatkins> when I reboot my phone, it locks the screen first of all, so that won't help either
[10:10] <diplo> yeah some people have said if you're quick with Kies on start up you can get into contacts before it locks
[10:10] <diplo> Doesn't work :)
[10:54] <DJones> MooDoo: Following the comments in -irc, thats probably the wrong channel for discussion so moved back here, was that the price for Office 365
[10:55] <MooDoo> DJones: just checking lol :) yeah I kinda thought that when i typed it
[10:56] <MooDoo> DJones: http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/home-premium/ £7.99 a month, £79.99 a year
[10:56] <MooDoo> you can install it on 5 machnes.
[10:58] <DJones> That might be worth thinking about, specially being able to install on 5 machines, I'd want it on my work desktop, "work" laptop and probably have to put it on my wifes laptop just in case I have to use her machine for work
[10:58] <MooDoo> DJones: my wife has just started a course, so although I have it on mine already, I can no install it on hers.
[11:00] <DJones> And it comes with Publisher, thats the one MS app that I've never really found a reasonable equivalent for on linux
[11:00] <MooDoo> it does indeed :D
[11:01] <popey> \o/ no ms office in this house
[11:01] <popey> kids and wifey use libreoffice only
[11:01] <MooDoo> pah the dental course my wifes just started they say MS office for some reason :S
[11:02] <popey> ho ho ho
[11:02] <popey> nothing changes
[11:02] <MooDoo> £7.99 aint to bad I suppose, still it's not free
[11:04] <Laney> will it actually matter in reality?
[11:05] <MooDoo> Laney: the price?  nah!
[11:06] <Laney> not the price
[11:06] <Laney> whether you actually use that or LO
[11:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:06] <MooDoo> Laney: she needs publisher :)
[11:06] <Laney> afternoon davmor2
[11:06] <MooDoo> hello davmor2
[11:06] <Laney> PUBLISHER?!?!?!$"£>%£W$>TJSLGSD
[11:06] <DJones> I normally use LibreOffice at work, but now and again, there are some documents I get sent that have to be filled in and don't convert well enough
[11:07] <Laney> I used to use that loads back in the day
[11:10] <DJones> MooDoo: Does the £7.99 version actually install a full office release, or is that just the web apps version
[11:11] <MartijnVdS> DJones: I think it's both?
[11:12] <DJones> Just had visions of needing an always on internet connection which wouldn't be good for a laptop
[11:12] <MartijnVdS> oh it probably needs an internet connection often
[11:12] <MartijnVdS> to check if you've paid
[11:12] <MartijnVdS> etc.
[11:13] <DJones> That wouldn't be an issue, 999 out of 1000 uses, it'd be connected anyway
[11:13] <MooDoo> DJones: you install it on your machine
[11:14] <DJones> MooDoo: Ta, thats what I was hoping
[11:14] <MooDoo> http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/home-premium/#FAQs
[11:14] <MooDoo> Is Internet access required for Office? read that
[11:14] <MooDoo> you need win 7 / 8 or mac os
[11:17] <DJones> I think that will do, maybe have to go for the small business premium version, but still not bad
[11:17] <MooDoo> It'll do me :D
[11:18] <DJones> :)
[11:18] <foobarry> so i tried out this twitter game. completed it already
[11:18] <foobarry> maybe i wasn't playingon hard mode
[11:19] <MooDoo> twitter game?
[11:19] <Laney> what's hard mode?
[11:19] <Laney> being a female public figure I guess
[11:19] <foobarry> where you create an accoutn and try to get maximum coverage of your tweets starting from 0 followers and 0 tweets
[11:19] <foobarry> i won it by my 2nd tweet
[11:19] <foobarry> > 100,000 people saw it
[11:20] <foobarry> other tweets getting big retweets and stuff
[11:20] <foobarry> bored now. too easy
[11:20] <popey> http://mrmine.com/ is fun
[11:20] <popey> basic, but fun
[11:20] <foobarry> don't think i'll try the millioon followers thing
[11:20] <popey> thinking of making a similar thing in scratch with my codeclub
[11:21] <DJones> OH BUGGER..Just realised, I'm going to have to UEFI
[11:23] <MartijnVdS> DJones: nothing wrong with uefi
[11:24] <DJones> MartijnVdS: Probably not once your used to it, but after seeing som many horror stories, it'll be an interesting experience
[11:31] <foobarry> got another retweet " To 62939 followers."
[11:31] <foobarry> :P
[11:32] <popey> what is this game?
[11:32] <foobarry> isn't that what tiwtter is about?
[11:32] <foobarry> write things and see how many retweets you get
[11:32] <directhex> i win at twitter!
[11:35] <kvarley> As soon as I add "Match User kevin" to my sshd_config file SSH stops working. why?
[11:35] <DJones> I've seen a couple, people are deliberatly writing inflamatory comments to get more responses/retweets though
[11:35] <DJones> And generally things they don't normally bother with
[11:36] <kvarley> Oh lol, put the match statement in the wrong place
[11:40] <dwatkins> How can I check an e-mail address is valid without sending it a mail?
[11:40] <dwatkins> I tried telnetting to port 25 of the mail server, but it threw me out, probably because I'm not on the whitelist.
[11:42] <diplo> You can't really can you, that would be spammers heaven ?
[11:42] <dwatkins> ah yes, good point
[11:42] <diplo> you can check the domain is a valid domain and has mx records
[11:42] <diplo> ?
[11:42] <diplo> And then it's down to the mail server to accept or deny
[11:42] <dwatkins> yeah, it uses messagelabs as its MX record
[11:43] <knightwise> evening everyone
[11:43] <dwatkins> probably for spam filtering, like postini
[11:43] <dwatkins> morning knightwise
[11:43] <diplo> Yeah I used to use messagelabs at my last place
[11:43] <diplo> Did a good job at the time tbh
[11:43] <diplo> morning knightwise
[11:44] <daubers> Morning all, don't forget that Everything is Awesome!
[11:44] <dwatkins> my colleague is collecting boxes for recycling, but I reckon he's building one of these: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/6282
[11:44] <dwatkins> Everything is Awesome :D
[11:44] <diplo> Talking of pi's - any updates on the ubuntu build ?
[11:45]  * dwatkins is a bit disillusioned about Kickstarter after the SuperToy debacle, but has faith in AlanBell 
[11:45] <diplo> dwatkins: that is awesome, I'd love to do stuff like that for my boys
[11:46] <dwatkins> diplo: I had a piece of wood with some light switches on when I was little, thought it was fantastic ;)
[11:46] <diplo> My son really wants to build something ( eldest ) but my other son doesn't sit well doing stuff like that, find it very hard as a single parent doing stuff like that when I have both of them
[11:47] <MooDoo> diplo: my 5 yr old loves minecraft at the moment :)
[11:47] <popey> yeah, my kids too
[11:48] <diplo> Yeah, I've leant my 360 to a friend for the last month, must get it back
[11:48] <jussi> popey: you are evil. That mining game is addictive.
[11:48] <popey> haha
[11:49] <popey> jussi: I am down to 68KM
[11:49] <popey> $80M
[11:49] <jussi> Im at 15km
[11:49] <popey> it's one you can just leave running and come back to when you have a cup of tea
[11:49] <MooDoo> jussi: mining game?
[11:49] <jussi> MooDoo: http://mrmine.com/
[11:49] <MooDoo> ta
[11:49] <diplo> I'm at 11km :/
[11:50] <diplo> I really should be working :)
[11:51] <jussi> diplo: me also...
[11:51] <Laney> is it like cookie clicker?
[11:51] <daubers> Any openstack people about? Could do with a few pointers :)
[11:52] <MooDoo> lol you can just leave this game to do it's stuff
[11:53] <knightwise> hey guys ,
[11:53] <MooDoo> hello
[11:54] <knightwise> quick question. do you guys know of a self hosted IM app that supports encryption ?
[11:54] <knightwise> i'm looking for a communication client/server for a small company
[11:55] <directhex> self-host XMPP with Prosody, install Pidgin with OTR on all clients
[11:56] <knightwise> And then use a xmpp compatible client on android  ?
[11:56] <MattJ> XMPP \o/
[11:56] <MattJ> Prosody \o/
[11:56] <dwatkins> I've been considering using Telegram, but havn't looked into it yet.
[11:56]  * diplo thinks MattJ has prosody on highlight?
[11:56] <MattJ> Highly recommend Yaxim on Android, the only thing missing is MUC (chatroom) support
[11:56] <MattJ> diplo, and XMPP, and Jabber
[11:56] <diplo> heh
[11:57] <knightwise> ok , gonna have a peek , sounds interesting;
[11:58] <bashrc> knightwise: I use prosody as an XMPP server.  Instructions here http://freedombone.uk.to/#sec-4.21
[12:00] <dwatkins> arg, I've used Windows too much today, I keep writing my slashes the wrong way around
[12:03] <jussi> popey: can you increase the capacity at all?
[12:03] <popey> yes
[12:03] <popey> craft cargo bays
[12:04] <diplo> Need gold for that :)
[12:04] <popey> hire men
[12:04] <diplo> yeah got 5 on the go now
[12:04] <popey> heh
[12:04] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[12:04] <jussi> popey: ahh yes, now I see... I was crafting stuff but hadnt equipped it
[12:04] <MattJ> bashrc, nice guide... yours?
[12:05] <bashrc> yes
[12:05] <bashrc> a guide created from hours of faffing about
[12:07] <MooDoo> need to find gold lol
[12:08] <jussi> MooDoo: I just made it to 20km
[12:09] <MooDoo> jussi: 16 at the moment, but I need gold to craft bigger storage :D
[12:11] <knightwise> bashrc: thanx !
[12:12] <foobarry> anyone do i/o performance checking on their kit?
[12:12] <foobarry> what read speeds do you get?
[12:12] <jussi> MooDoo: oooh, just got my first platinum
[12:13] <MooDoo> jussi: you have to watch this rof your out of capacity lol
[12:13] <jussi> oh, btw
[12:14] <jussi> if anyone wants to play, referral time! http://mrmine.com/index.php?r=9115672114224 :D
[12:14] <bashrc> knightwise: also in a small company setting I've found that IRC is really useful for team cohesion
[12:16] <jussi> lol, one of the rewards is "talk to the golem" :P
[12:18] <knightwise> bashrc: but irc is clear text .. no ?
[12:18] <popey> knightwise: not if you connect securely
[12:19] <bashrc> knightwise: you can set up IRC with a password and using SSL.  Instructions here: http://freedombone.uk.to/#sec-4.20
[12:20] <bashrc> The main advantage of IRC over IM is that you can have multiple participants
[12:20] <bashrc> whereas IM is usually just 1-on-1
[12:20] <jussi> bashrc: MUC ;)
[12:21] <bashrc> mano a mano
[12:25] <bashrc> if you're using something other than Debian 7 on the server then you may just be able to apt-get install hybserv
[12:29] <jussi> !info hybserv
[12:32] <bashrc> I saw a chart somewhere in which it appeared that hybserv was the only channel manager supporting SSL
[12:35] <MooDoo> jussi: just trying for 4 cylinder engine, takes ages to get to 110k
[12:36] <jussi> MooDoo: yeah, Ive got it already, and the crafting is expensive also
[12:36] <diplo> How many workers have you got MooDoo / jussi ?
[12:36] <jussi> 6
[12:36] <MooDoo> diplo: 6
[12:36] <MooDoo> 26km
[12:36] <diplo> 27k and 7
[12:37] <jussi> 28k here
[12:37] <diplo> Goes up a lot quicker with more people, but they get darn expensive.. 500k next
[12:37] <jussi> about to buy the ext one
[12:37] <jussi> next'
[12:38] <jussi> someone take my link... I want money! :P
[12:39] <diplo> you get money for reffering ?
[12:39] <jussi> yeah. click the old fart on the roof
[12:39] <aquarius> popey, ping
[12:40] <jussi> diplo: and for reaching 20k, 40k etc
[12:40] <aquarius> popey, is the comment from you on http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/bq-aquaris-ubuntu-phone-specs#comment-1261219388 really from you? It has a few too many exclamation marks to sound like you.
[12:40] <aquarius> popey, also, the bq aquaris 5 is actually slightly *larger* than the Nexus 4 :(
[12:40] <MartijnVdS> bq aquarius
[12:41] <jussi> found a diamond!
[12:41] <aquarius> I was pretty careful to spell it the way they do :)
[12:41] <shauno> tip: there's lava under it
[12:42] <jussi> diplo: MooDoo popey shauno - come join me in ##mrmine
[12:45] <popey> aquarius: meow
[12:47] <popey> aquarius: right, but it's not a gigantic phone
[13:13] <jussi> hrm, I love it when something works, that isnt traditional...
[13:13] <jussi> I just made lamb wok...
[13:13] <jussi> wok/stirfry
[13:40] <aquarius> popey, I wasn't having a pop. It genuinely didn't sound like you; I was wondering whether the omg comments bug had credited your comment to someone else
[13:40] <popey> heh
[13:50] <shauno> the lesser-spotted omgpopey does seem to wield a lot more punctuation than we're accustomed to
[13:52] <popey> I was excited
[15:12] <Laney> radmac is amusing today
[15:12] <MartijnVdS> radmac?
[15:12] <Laney> 6 music
[15:13] <Laney> gerrit on
[15:13] <MartijnVdS> Laney: ESPEAKERS
[15:13] <Laney> for shame
[15:14] <MartijnVdS> Laney: I prefer my co-workers in a "not wanting to kill me" state tyvm ;)
[15:25] <foobarry>  where should static routes be added in centos? rc.local/
[15:25] <foobarry> ?
[15:25] <MartijnVdS> ##centos ;)
[15:25] <foobarry>  where should static routes be added in ubuntu? rc.local?
[15:29] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: I'd use an "up" line in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:29] <MartijnVdS> also, use "ip route add", not "route add"
[15:29] <MartijnVdS> also, static routes, in this day & age?!
[15:31] <foobarry> a necessary evil
[15:31] <foobarry> on a dual homed box
[15:33] <diplo> foobarry: Centos6 ?
[15:34] <diplo>  It'll be in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-eth0 or 1
[15:41] <foobarry> 5.8 diplo
[15:41] <foobarry> are those files supported on 5 too?
[15:41] <diplo> I know it's differrent on 4
[15:41] <diplo> Give me a sec
[15:41] <foobarry> thx
[15:42] <diplo> Should be the same
[15:42] <foobarry> ta
[15:42] <diplo> So the syntax is network/24 via route dev eth0
[15:52] <foobarry> can i do ip route add 123.456.788.123/32 dev eth1
[15:53] <foobarry> i suppose i better put the next hop
[15:53] <foobarry> normally i do this without thinking
[15:54] <foobarry> but i gotta write a change request
[16:01] <bubu> hey guys. I'm holding some packages back using apt-mark hold pkgname
[16:01] <bubu> I assume this gets written to a file somewhere so I can check if it is already held?
[16:10] <mapps> yo
[16:12] <mapps> well thats good..americans back today
[16:16] <davmor2> bubu: it tends to be because a dependency can't be updated for some reason so it holds back the app that can't be installed because of it
[16:16] <bubu> davmor2: it's ok, dpkg --get-selections | grep pkg_name | grep hold
[16:17] <bubu> will check if that package is held or not
[17:14] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lo1eggikd6ah30a/IMG_20140226_154114.jpg
[17:14] <daftykins> move over ceiling cat
[17:15] <mapps> you see that cat in the paper? had its legs cut off by a garden cutting thing
[17:15] <mapps> ;/
[17:15] <mapps> cats are cute
[17:15] <daftykins> D: nah i don't read any papers
[18:57] <daftykins> http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/b4f29be1fa739ac22496c36c846024e4.html
[18:57] <daftykins> this is very handy, gonna use it to keep track of my strange packet loss
[21:10] <bigcalm> popey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Coiajj5ScBA
[21:11] <bigcalm> audio is NSWF
[21:12] <shauno> what the
[21:21] <bigcalm> :)
[21:21] <shauno> the innuendos are strong with this one
[21:21] <bigcalm> NSFW even
[21:22] <shauno> actually looks like a lot of fun
[22:14] <diddledan> 6% of mtgox bitcoins have apparently been stolen?
[22:14] <diddledan> http://collaboristablog.com/2014/02/bitcoin-bedlam-mt-gox-shuts-doors-apparent-data-leak/
[22:20] <shauno> only 6%?
[22:21] <ali1234> no, that report is claiming 6% of *all* bitcoins
[22:21] <ali1234> but it's rubbish
[22:21] <shauno> I actually find the whole thing terribly exciting.  finally seems like a good time to buy
[22:23] <ali1234> gox wouldn't be closed if it only lost 6% of coins
[22:23] <ali1234> otoh it's pretty much impossible for them to have lost more than about 30%
[22:23] <ali1234> after that they wouldn't ever be able to make valid transactions
[22:23] <diddledan> shauno, INORITE
[22:24] <diddledan> a currency crash is the best time to invest
[22:24] <shauno> unfortunately bitstamp want me to scan various documents, and I a) don't use paper, and b) don't own a scanner
[22:24] <diddledan> provided you can be sure the currency isn't going to disappear
[22:25] <diddledan> hmm, I should reboot to patch os x's ssl bug
[22:25] <diddledan> gotofail
[22:26] <daftykins> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p5feX5IDyRrfy-3IYqV8lWe_S3sSDf4Q2-VAdXlaTz0=w797-h598-no
[22:26] <daftykins> mate of a mate, about to get 330/30 Mb tubes over FTTP for £50/mo
[22:27] <daftykins> =/
[22:27] <diddledan> daftykins, that's so unfair
[22:27] <daftykins> ikr
[22:35] <shauno> that's evil.  I only have half of that living in a third-world country
[22:44] <dogmatic69> upgrading to 13.10
[22:44] <dogmatic69> my internet connection <3 http://i.imgur.com/f4lKBzU.png
[22:52] <diddledan> daftykins, which company did he go with?
[22:52] <diddledan> apparently I can get fttp here. whoknew?!
[22:53] <daftykins> diddledan: not sure sir, he went to bed so i cannot ask
[22:53] <daftykins> wow, what's the damage?
[22:54] <diddledan> a&a are suggesting 10GB(daytime) and 500GB(evening/weekend) (14 of their "units" in total) at £76.80/mo with 125 install
[22:54] <diddledan> sorry, 100 install
[22:55] <daftykins> as in you have to sign up 99 neighbours?
[22:55] <diddledan> http://aa.net.uk/broadband-FP.html
[22:55] <diddledan> no, 100£
[22:55] <daftykins> that's ace
[22:55] <ali1234> wat
[22:56] <shauno> wot
[22:56] <daftykins> wit
[22:56] <ali1234> that's not per day you know
[22:56] <ali1234> that's 10GB per month in the day time
[22:56] <ali1234> for £76/month
[22:56] <diddledan> ali1234, yes
[22:57] <shauno> that's like .. my phone
[22:57] <ali1234> it's like my phone except it costs 10x as much
[22:57] <diddledan> I'm trying to find another provider that isn't bt
[22:57] <shauno> my monthly usage is way over their 'weekend/evening'
[22:58] <shauno> my daytime .. well I don't tend to wake up if I'm not working.  10GB/mo might be workable if I pay attention to background scheduling
[23:21] <diddledan> hmm, maybe I can't - it's listed as fttp on demand which afaik costs over 1k to get installed
[23:21] <daftykins> D:
[23:22] <diddledan> I can't get the bt website to work so I can't find out anything from the horses mouth
[23:22] <daftykins> so get 9 neighbours signed up, rock-on \o/