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Cimihi guys08:24
CimiI'm at MWC but I can work today and tomorrow, I don't have to demo to clients those days08:24
Cimiapart fixing the current MR, you have a new task?08:25
SaviqCimi, going through https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=mwcdemo2014 and adding needs-test / needs-ap-test tags08:26
CimiSaviq, not all require tests?08:29
SaviqCimi, some of them might have them already08:30
CimiSaviq, or it's only a matter of choosing which test suite to use?08:30
Cimiah ok08:30
CimiSaviq, well, they wouldn't be bugs if they had tests...08:30
SaviqCimi, they are fixed bugs08:30
CimiSaviq, so they have tests no?08:30
Cimior we fixed without adding tests?08:31
Cimianyway I'll check08:31
SaviqCimi, we didn't necessarily have time for tests08:31
SaviqCimi, those are mwc-frenzy bugs08:31
SaviqCimi, also, only look at unity8 / ubuntu (unity8) bugs08:31
Saviqof course08:31
SaviqCimi, "or we can wait for design", remember we only have like... two... designers now08:32
SaviqCimi, so just go for your best guess08:32
tsdgeosSaviq: i am guessing if the document for the sprint says "March 24" it means "the week starting on March 24", right?08:48
Saviqtsdgeos, no, just one day08:48
Saviq;P08:48
tsdgeossorry if it's a silly question, feeling a bit sick-ish08:48
Saviqtsdgeos, yes, the week08:49
tsdgeosprotip: don't finish the icecream of your little cousin, will give you all his stuff and you'll end up sick08:49
Saviqyikes08:49
tsdgeosnot aweful, but still not at 100%, let's say 70% or something08:50
Saviqtsdgeos, but it's ice cream, what else can you do... sure, the price might be high, but it's still icecream!08:50
tsdgeosyeap08:50
tsdgeosdamn, there's someone called AlbertA in the mir team08:53
Cimitsdgeos, can you tell me why you came up with the nick tsdgeos08:56
Ciminote: I can't spell it08:56
tsdgeosit was thought to be written, not to be pronounced08:56
Cimitsdgeos, I said spell08:57
tsdgeosi know08:57
Cimitsdgeos, if there wasn't tab autocompletion08:57
tsdgeosyou don't need to spell it, irc will auto complete for you08:57
anpokbut it is also not efficient to be written..08:57
CimiI would not be able to communicate with you :)08:57
tsdgeosanpok: there's not many ts<TAB> nicks around :D08:57
tsdgeosCimi: tsd is the last letters of name surname1 surname208:57
anpokah .. otherwise i would propose something like asdf08:58
tsdgeosgeos is just some crap because tsd was too short08:58
Cimiahahaha08:58
Cimiyou guys want to guess how I came up with Cimi? :D08:58
tsdgeosdamn i was going to joke with the plural of cima08:59
tsdgeosbut that's cime08:59
tsdgeosyou guys don't make sense on making plurals :D09:00
tsdgeosSaviq: is our new ci landing train smart enough that if i set https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/previews.PreviewRatingDisplay/+merge/207625 to approved but not it's prerequisite branch it won't merge it?09:31
tsdgeosor?09:31
Saviqtsdgeos, your lander has to be smart enough09:32
Saviqtsdgeos, so just note it in "Required..."09:32
Saviqtsdgeos, ci train doesn't actually care about the branch status09:33
tsdgeosok09:34
tsdgeosSaviq: shall we disapprove https://code.launchpad.net/~veebers/unity8/update_ap_tests_ready_for_py3/+merge/194655 based on the last comment?09:36
Saviqtsdgeos, +109:36
mhr3Saviq, comments on09:57
mhr3https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/unity-scopes-shell/invoke-action-uris/+merge/207844 ?09:57
Saviqmhr3, feels fine10:00
Saviqmhr3, will save us round trips in a few places10:00
Saviqmhr3, and allow for canned queries from previews, too, right?10:01
mhr3Saviq, i'm just not sure whether the plugin should be doing this10:01
Saviqmhr3, well, it's doing it for applications already10:01
mhr3Saviq, especially the if (widget == "actions") is eek10:01
Saviqmhr3, do we actually want that?10:02
Saviqi.e. if a progress widget has a uri that it's meant to open on completion...10:02
Saviqnot sue10:03
Saviqr10:03
Saviqmhr3, after all the scope can come back with a uri to open from any action anyway, no?10:04
Saviqor well, we want them to be able to10:04
mhr3Saviq, don't really think progress should support such auto-redirect10:18
mhr3Saviq, and no, currently action can't come back with a redirect uri10:19
mhr3maybe it should be able to... not convinced10:19
mhr3would mean that any invokable action can redirect... including the implicit ones10:20
mhr3like submitting a review could open your music player10:20
mhr3or the progress failing...10:21
mhr3doesn't sound like good use cases for redirecting10:21
Saviqmhr3, for progress it'd be tricky as we decided to only have one action for completed / cancelled / failed, so only one uri there10:22
mhr3so perhaps it's better when it's tied to the widget itself, cause it's really not making much sense to redirect when progress state changes10:24
Saviqmhr3, fine with that, not sure we can do anything else than type == "actions", then10:24
mhr3very well... feel free to ack it then10:25
Saviqmhr3, you do checklists?10:26
mhr3Saviq, no, ci does it for us :)10:27
Saviq;)10:27
Saviqmhr3, ah, one thing:10:28
Saviq300+ if (spy.count() == 0) {10:28
Saviq301+ QVERIFY(spy.wait());10:28
Saviq302+ }10:28
Saviqmhr3, the if() is unnecessary I think10:29
mhr3Saviq, it was failing without it10:29
Saviqmhr3, hmm or maybe only QML's SSpy does that10:29
Saviqmhr3, spy.wait() will return straight away if count is higher than at previous wait() call (in QML at least)10:29
mhr3spy.wait() will wait for receiving the signal, doesn't matter if it received it before the call10:29
Saviqmhr3, yeah, it does in QML, weird10:30
mhr3these discrepancies suck10:30
Saviqindeed10:30
mhr3Saviq, btw i want more cmd line param for unity-scope-tool, ok to use glib for that? :)10:40
mhr3cause apparently qt doesn't have anything for it until 5.210:41
tsdgeosno10:41
tsdgeoslet's not be silly here10:41
tsdgeosand just move to 5.2 already10:41
mhr3tsdgeos, fine with me10:41
mhr3tsdgeos, pushing that today?10:41
Saviqmhr3, yeah, no10:42
Saviqmhr3, prep a branch against 5.210:42
Saviqmhr3, we'll do 5.2 soon enough10:42
mhr3oh is that really going to happen for the lts?10:42
Saviqmhr3, oh yeah10:43
mhr3cool then10:43
Saviqhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/127832910:43
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1278329 in qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Qt 5.2" [Undecided,New]10:43
Saviqwe should just land it already, otherwise there's not enough push to fix the issues10:44
tsdgeos+110:45
tsdgeosMirv: ↑↑↑↑10:45
Saviqtsdgeos, it's not like Mirv has the power :)10:45
tsdgeosi know10:45
Saviqtsdgeos, but Pat does, and has taken the issue over10:45
tsdgeoshe is just looking for allies :D10:45
Saviqtsdgeos, like, yesterday10:45
tsdgeosgoodstuff10:46
Saviqwe're having daily 5.2 standups starting today10:46
Saviquntil it gets in10:46
seb128Saviq, I did some "if we don't move we are going to miss the LTS" speech yesterday :p10:46
Saviqseb128, yeah, thanks for that10:46
seb128yw ;-)10:46
Mirvall pushing towards getting 5.2 in and fixes done welcome :)10:47
Mirvit'll be interesting to see how everything looks after sergiusens has the qtmultimedia-touch to push to the PPA10:47
Saviqyay10:49
Saviqmhr3, we should sit down and flesh out the attributes JSON...11:41
mhr3Saviq, sure, whenever you have time11:42
Saviqmhr3, how about now?11:42
mhr3ok11:43
Saviqmhr3, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpjpq6vbsoaq1ertlpmq41h4?11:44
Saviqbe with you in 211:46
anpokgreyback: hmm strange things happen .. three session objects are involved .. some get focusd.. some receive surfaces...12:09
greybackanpok: webapps you mean?12:09
anpokin the fix for 124040012:09
anpokyes12:09
greybackyeah, it's black magic almost12:09
anpokwill try with trunk and compare..12:09
anpokor just go for the session list instead of a shared ptr..12:09
greybackok, lemme know if I can help12:10
anpoki could make unit test that tries all permutations of notification orders with one application a set of sessions and .. well..12:10
anpoki am fine so far.. earlier i wanted to reproduce a crash12:11
anpokthe shell crashed when I tried to shut down multiple apps with two finger simultaneously12:11
anpokbut couldnt reproduce it12:11
anpokand obviously I dont have the crash file since I already had an older one12:12
greybackI think I had that once. But no core dump was saved, and also failed to reproduce it12:12
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CimiSaviq, ok I put the tags12:32
anpoktest12:33
CimiSaviq, we still have both unity8 and unity8(ubuntu)12:34
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greybackSaviq: hey, I've made a separate development branch for unity-mir, and want to enable CI and autolanding for it. Who can help me with that?12:42
Saviqgreyback, didrocks can tell you he doesn't want you to do that ;D12:44
didrocksyeah, we are not going to support that12:45
didrocksyou'll shoot in your feet12:45
tsdgeoshmmmm12:45
tsdgeosanyone knows why ResponsiveGridView does contentHeightForRows(rows):  return rows * cellHeight + verticalSpacing12:45
tsdgeoswhen cellHeight already contains verticalSpacing ?12:45
tsdgeoswe're adding verticalSpacing twice at the end12:46
greybacktsdgeos: think that's bad yeah, someone else asked me about that12:46
tsdgeosok12:46
tsdgeoskilled :D12:46
tsdgeosif we need more space between categories12:46
tsdgeoswe should do that at a higher level12:46
tsdgeoslike in the list that layours the categories not in the grid itself12:47
anpokmaybe verticalSpacing at the top?12:48
anpokmaybe -verticalSpacing if rows!=0 ..12:48
tsdgeosif rows == 0 we shouldn't show the category12:51
tsdgeosor that's what we do anyway i think12:52
tsdgeoslucnh!12:52
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bregmaI'm trying to refine my unity8-desktop-session package (running Unity8 as the desktop shell). When I click on, say, an icon in the music lens it brings up the preview with a "play" button, but it doesn't do anything when clicked and I get the following error in the log:13:34
bregma** (unity8:2100): WARNING **: Unable to dispatch url 'http://grooveshark.com/#/album/Random%20Access%20Memories/8814557':GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.canonical.URLDispatcher was not provided by any .service files13:34
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bregmais there a dependency I need to install that will resolve this?13:34
mhr3url-dispatcher?13:36
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tsdgeosbregma: yeah url-dispatcher seems like something that should solve that give that, not sure how desktop proof it is otoh13:57
bregmait seems to me if something depends on something else, there should be a corresponding package dependency13:58
bregmatsdgeos, the point of the preview session is to identify such problems, so it's OK if it doesn't work correctly (yet)13:59
tsdgeosbregma: tedg should know more13:59
* tedg hides14:00
bregmatedg should know better14:00
tsdgeostedg: morning, do you know how url-dispatcher is working on the desktop?14:00
tedgtsdgeos, Well, that's an interesting question. URL dispatcher itself doesn't change much, but the QPA is interesting.14:00
bregmaI'll let you know in a minute14:01
tedgIt seems kinda stupid to change the plugin, except on Unity 8, but then how many QPA plugins do we want to maintain?14:01
* bregma is amazed by the 20 second reboot time on his Yoga214:01
* tedg hopes bregma takes that time to do some micro-yoga14:02
bregmaso I installed url-dispatcher and it seems to work fine (tedg, this is in the Unity8 desktop preview session)14:04
bregmathere should really be a package dependency somewhere14:04
tedgbregma, So can you open gallery and click on camera?  Does that work?14:04
tedgbregma, I mean, the camera button in the gallery toolbar.14:05
bregmawell, I installed the camera-app and tat "works" for a given definition of "work", let me test the gallery14:05
tedgbregma, But a shirt on, the camera has a decency filter.14:06
tedgPut14:06
bregmatedg, I don't see a camera button in the gallery toolbar ... in fact, the gallery toolbar is blank14:08
tedgHmm...14:09
bregmafunny, it didn't used to be14:09
* bregma will never update his system again, it only brings grief14:09
tedgbregma, I tried that, it brought grief.  Life, and updates, are pointless.14:09
bregmathe picture that the camera-app took is split down the middle, with the left half on the right and the right half on the left, and a line of noise at the top14:10
tedgbregma, So that'd be my concern, it might work though as you'd be running the Mir QPA, right?14:10
bregmatedg, I'm running the mir QPA14:10
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tedgSo, yeah, I'd say URL dispatcher should work.14:11
tedgbregma, BTW, we used to have a package dependency but xnox won't let me have good dependencies anymore.14:11
xnoxtedg: *giggle* =)14:12
tedgbregma, What's the metapackage for the preview session?14:12
xnoxtedg: i meant no harm & only enable things to cross-compile, whilst not breaking the images =)14:12
xnoxtedg: things like that should be seeded, or new seeds created if there is a need, instead of back-dooring into the seeds by anding deps to the already present packages =)14:13
bregmatedg, unity8-desktop-session-mir14:13
tedgIt's hard to say how that one should be there, but yeah, probably the meta package would be fine.14:13
tedgbregma, Cool, installing :-)14:13
xnoxtedg: how come upstart-app-launch, does nothing useful on X11 / unity7 desktop?14:14
xnox(with or without unity8 installed)14:14
tedgxnox, ?  It works for me?14:14
bregmatedg, you'll probably want to install from ppa:unity8-desktop-session-team/custom to pick up the patched mir and qtubuntu packages, at least until those guys get off their duffs and merge the required bugfixes14:14
bregmaoh, and you'll want to use a touchscreen14:15
tedgbregma, Got one, which is one reason I want to run the session :-)14:16
tedgbregma, Are you able to configure Unity8 to run the desktop profiles of the indicators?14:16
tedgbregma, That should get you a logout button.14:16
bregmatedg, you have a touchscreen now?  I have a lot of multi-touch bugs that need fixing I can send your way14:17
tedgHeh, thanks!14:18
bregmatedg, I haven't played with the indicators yet, suggestions and patches are welcome14:18
tedgbregma, It should just be a mode.  Like for tablet, etc.14:18
tedgSaviq, dednick, is there a way to tell Unity8 to use the phone/tablet/desktop profile for the indicators?14:19
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Saviqtedg, define phone vs. tablet vs. desktop ;)14:19
tedgIt's… for a friend.14:19
dednicktedg: um, not Unity8, but you can use the indicator-client14:19
tedgSaviq, Running on bregma's demo session :-)14:20
bregmathis is the future14:20
dednicktedg: otherwise you need to change the hardcoded value in unity814:20
bregma2024, evidently14:20
tedgdednick, Could we make that an environment variable, at least until Saviq's magic algorithm gets discovered?14:21
dednicktedg: um. maybe. it would have to be deployed on phone image somehow. or have a default i guess.14:22
Saviqtedg, that magic algorithm would probably be a per-screen property of some sort14:22
tedgI was thinking a default, for today.14:22
bregmadefault sounds reasonable14:23
Saviqdednick, yeah, default to phone14:23
tedgSaviq, Yeah, I think that in this case it's probably not as much profile as detecting whether there are multiple users.  But we haven't had that conversation with design yet.  Hoping for something low work in the short term.14:23
Saviqdo we need a different set of indicators per-ffactor?14:23
tedgSaviq, No, they just export the form factors on different dbus paths.14:24
Saviqk14:24
bregmaso, I'm a little confused, but to make it clear what I really need short-term is to be able to log out from Unity8 on the desktop, and I can indicate this is a desktop session through environment variables set in upstart jobs14:26
bregmawhat is the best approach to take and what project shall I open the bug against?14:26
xnoxtedg: also note that unity-desktop-session-x11 appears to not be upstart managed, i presume ditto -mir (but i wasn't able to run that one yet)14:27
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bregmaSaviq, also, is there a simple way to not have the greeter displayed on login yet?14:27
xnoxtedg: which imho is a bug, since for x11 we need a shell to get the right screen resolution (e.g. upstart user session to run compiz)14:27
bregmaxnox, the Mir session is upstart managed, the X11 is not because who has time for that?14:27
xnoxbregma: well, are you plannning to launch X apps at all? (in either Mir or X11 session)14:28
Saviqbregma, no, but soon the greeter should be split completely out of unity814:28
bregmaSaviq, OK, just wondering14:28
bregmaxnox, launching X11 apps on Mir is beyond my kenning, and running Unity8 on X11 is not really a target for 14.0414:29
Saviqbregma, mterry will be your best contact for that14:29
tedgbregma, I think you need a bug on Unity8 to allow for an env var for telling it the indicator profile.  That means you can use the desktop profile of indicator-session, which would have a logout button.14:30
tedgbregma, The alternative would be to have a different "mode" for indicator-session where it did different phone profiles, but I don't think that'd be good.14:30
bregmatedg, OK, sounds like a plan14:31
tedgxnox, We expect when launching X11 apps on U8 Mir, that we'll create a small X session per app.  The WM there will be provided by Mir as basically a conduit.14:31
tedgxnox, Lacing that together is on my TODO when the Mir pieces required land.14:32
xnoxtedg: sounds excellent, then i should work on getting -mir one running on my touch enabled laptop.14:32
tedgxnox, You should, I hear bregma has touch bugs for you.14:33
bregmahuehuehue14:34
greybackSaviq: standup14:37
Saviqgreyback, hangout, rather, but I'm at the dentist's... can't join14:38
greybackSaviq: yes I know it's a hangout. Have fun at dentist14:38
Saviqgreyback, intend to14:39
dednick@unity: googletalk nuking my cpu!14:44
elopioping tsdgeos, did you see my email? I need help running unity from your branch.14:48
tsdgeoselopio: i answered this morning, did you get it?14:48
bregmaOK, another question: when I run notes-app in my desktop session it errors with qmlscene: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qmlscene': No such file or directory14:55
bregmabut I only have /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene14:55
bregmaany idea why it's trying to pick up the qt4 version?14:55
elopiotsdgeos: right, sorry. On it now.14:57
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anpokI played around with keeping all mir sessions associated with an application - and that changes life time of sessions in a funny way that I can get reproducible deadlocks..15:25
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anpokgreyback: but I guess I a found the reason for the other problem you experienced -- mea culpa -- and thanks for testing15:32
greybackanpok: great, will check it out later today/tomorrow morning15:32
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anpokhm what is the prefered style in unity-mir cv type' '[*&]' 'variable or [cv type15:52
anpokoops15:52
anpoki meant: [cv] type [*&] name vs. [cv] type[*&] name vs. type [cv][*&] name?15:54
tsdgeosanpok: i'd say "look at the existing code" :D15:59
anpokhehe15:59
anpokthats why I am asking15:59
anpokhttps://code.launchpad.net/~andreas-pokorny/unity-mir/fix-1240400/+merge/207302/comments/48957615:59
tsdgeostrueth16:00
Saviqmhall119, re: UE Live... I'm kind of in a weird place... unless my memory is real selective, nobody ever told me that I was meant to do those...16:27
greybackanpok: perhaps I'm too easy going, but I'm not a strict coding style proponent16:32
greybackanpok: however your observation was correct, whenever I referenced Mir code, I used its style. Else I used my Qt style16:32
Cimidandrader, hey16:32
dandraderCimi, hi16:33
anpokok16:34
Saviqmhr3, michi said you solved the endless style battle somewhere with some astyle and friends, which project was that?16:36
mhr3Saviq, unity-scopes-api, i wouldn't call it solved though, we have a style target and some people manually run it from time to time16:37
Cimidandrader, if you want to help me and micheal terry, we've work to do on the welcome wizard16:38
mhr3Saviq, i read a nice article on that earlier today - ides should be smart and just reformat the code way *you* like it :)16:39
mhr3of course, poor people who wouldn't be using that smart ide :P16:39
Saviqmhr3, :)16:39
dandraderCimi, I just started doing something on the qml mir compositor front but I think I will still have spare time16:39
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Saviqmhr3, you mean the code should just be minified? ;)16:39
Cimidandrader, cool ok16:40
mhr3Saviq, better yet, binary compressed :)16:40
dandraderCimi, so, what's up?16:40
mzanettianyone knows of a workaround for the display turning on all the time with the latest image?16:41
Cimidandrader, get back when you finished :)16:41
Saviqmhr3, you mean compiled? :D16:44
Saviqmhr3, we should use vala and only check in the generated C :P16:45
mhr3Saviq, i meant to screw with people who want to use plain text editor, of course if the ide is so super-smart that it can decompile the real binary... meh why not :P16:48
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mhall119Saviq: I think you were going to come on when you had stuff, but not every week16:57
Saviqmhall119, oh ok, then let's skip it this week, next week we hopefully will be able to talk about all that happened for MWC, when it will be in trunks16:57
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Saviqtsdgeos, got one for you for tomorrow https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/127720617:11
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1277206 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "QT5.2: Disabling bluetooth crashes unity8" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:11
Saviqtsdgeos, this is as far as I took it http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7000803/17:11
* tsdgeos clicks17:12
tsdgeosok17:12
tsdgeosthe seemore/less is looking good17:12
tsdgeosexcept i have no animations17:12
tsdgeos:D17:12
Saviqtsdgeos, coolz17:12
tsdgeosthat'll be some work17:12
tsdgeossince for soem reason stuff is not getting anchored as i want17:13
tsdgeosi can upload if you want to have a loo17:13
tsdgeosk17:13
Saviqtsdgeos, no, is fine17:15
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elopioSaviq: can you help me getting the demo stuff running with autopilot?17:51
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Saviqelopio, anything in particular?19:53
elopioSaviq: yes, two things.19:53
elopioFirst, following the instructions at https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/demo-stuff I get:19:54
elopiostart: Unknown job: scope-registry19:54
Saviqelopio, as phablet?19:55
Saviqelopio, you could just reboot19:55
elopioSaviq: thats on desktop.19:55
Saviqelopio, hum19:55
elopioon phablet I could install it without problems.19:55
Saviqelopio, you have libunity-scopes0 installed?19:56
elopioSaviq: yes, I do.19:56
Saviqelopio, ls /usr/share/upstart/sessions/scope-registry.conf ?19:56
Saviqelopio, if you have that file and you can't start the job, something's wrong with your upstart19:58
elopioSaviq: it's there :(19:59
elopioI suppose upstart is the same cause of the other problem.19:59
elopiowhen I run the tests, I get19:59
elopioinitctl: Unknown job: unity819:59
elopioPlease install unity8 or copy data/unity8.conf to /home/elopio/.config/upstart19:59
Saviqelopio, yeah, sounds like it20:00
elopiooh well, one week without restarting my machine is already too long.20:00
Saviqelopio, was about to ask ;)20:00
elopioI'll try this on a virtual machine for now. Thanks Saviq.20:00
Saviqelopio, heh, so no rebooting? :D20:02
elopioSaviq: oh, I meant reinstalling, not rebooting. I rebooted this morning and I had the same error.20:03
kubahahaHi, is it propper place to ask for support with keyboard?20:03
elopiobut everything seems broken here. I can't even start unity7, and I'm using the not-so-good-looking gnome-shell20:03
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elopioanyway, I'm going to get some sun.20:04
elopiobbl20:04
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