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| shirgall | ricotz: ping ;) | 15:53 |
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| shirgall | Good morning. | 15:54 |
| ricotz | shirgall, i guess you want to complain about 331.49? | 15:55 |
| shirgall | ricotz: Not complain, but hoping there's a simple fix. 331.49 tries to apply the 3.13 kernel patch instead of 3.11 on Saucy. | 15:55 |
| ricotz | shirgall, wait a few minutes for the fix to be published | 15:56 |
| shirgall | ricotz: Cool, thanks. I had a hard time figuring out how to report it. | 15:57 |
| ricotz | shirgall, yeah, a common problem while using ppas ;), but IRC helps | 16:00 |
| shirgall | The PPA sends me to freedesktop.org, but I couldn't find a relevant category :/ | 16:00 |
| ricotz | shirgall, you can also try to contact the uploader which is can find int the detailed package-view of the ppa | 16:07 |
| shirgall | ricotz: well, you weren't online at the time I noticed. :) | 16:08 |
| ricotz | shirgall, there is an email-based contact too ;) | 16:09 |
| shirgall | ricotz: True, I admit I looked at the changelog and pinged Alberto, which was going too far. | 16:09 |
| ricotz | i see | 16:10 |
| ricotz | tseliot, hi :), 331.49 and 304.119 are of course candidates for trusty, 334.16 is pretty unstable here | 16:11 |
| tseliot | ricotz: hi. I plan to introduce 331.49 soon. As for 334.x, I won't include it in 14.04 as it's a short lived release branch | 16:12 |
| ricotz | tseliot, good, yeah, and it seems to be 'really" a beta this time given the problems i noticed | 16:13 |
| ricotz | tseliot, still 334.16 is the first with full egl/gles support | 16:13 |
| tseliot | ricotz: right, for now we keep egl support disabled in the nvidia packages | 16:14 |
| mlankhorst | Sarvatt: indeed ;D | 16:14 |
| ricotz | tseliot, right, since currently there is only 32bit which has changed with 334.x ;) | 16:14 |
| mlankhorst | 331.49 still doesn't work with 3.14 though | 16:15 |
| tseliot | oh, I haven't looked into 3.14 yet | 16:15 |
| ricotz | i am not running 3.14 yet, so i havent looked for fixes | 16:15 |
| ricotz | hehe | 16:15 |
| tseliot | we're not going to ship 3.14 though, are we? | 16:16 |
| ricotz | i dont think so | 16:16 |
| shirgall | ricotz: Thanks for the fix, all good now on Sauct | 16:18 |
| shirgall | Saucy | 16:18 |
| silenz | ey guys, i'm trying to learn more about ubuntu and linux as a whole, and i'm currently trying to wrap my head around x11 and an xindow system but i havent really seen a laymans explanation of how it works | 17:14 |
| silenz | could somebody explain an x window system like they would to a 10 year old? O_o | 17:14 |
| shirgall | silenz: Have you looked at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XWindow-Overview-HOWTO/ ? | 17:17 |
| silenz | no I havent, I was reading a book on ubuntu. I will read the link instead, thanks! | 17:18 |
| shirgall | Admittedly, that's more than 10 years old itself. | 17:18 |
| silenz | well... according to this book x hasnt changed in like 25 years right | 17:19 |
| tseliot | silenz: this should help http://magcius.github.io/xplain/article/ | 17:20 |
| silenz | cool thanks the more references the better | 17:20 |
| silenz | it seems like a pretty basic concept to understand about ubuntu and linux | 17:21 |
| silenz | so im trying to understand as much as possible. i thought the main thing in linux was the GUI which was either KDE or GNOME or now unity | 17:21 |
| silenz | but now i get that the underlying thing is actually the window system that makes the GUI | 17:22 |
| silenz | im going down the rabbit hole lol | 17:22 |
| jarkko | is 12.04 ubuntu get newer mesa packages? | 18:08 |
| jarkko | going to | 18:08 |
| Sarvatt | it'll get 14.04's graphics stack 3-4 months after 14.04 releases, but that'll be the end | 18:11 |
| jarkko | Sarvatt: was that answer for me? | 18:13 |
| Sarvatt | yep! | 18:13 |
| Sarvatt | its getting the 6 month releases backported to it but thats opt-in unless you install from point release media (like 12.04.4) | 18:14 |
| Sarvatt | need to install a package to switch, like xserver-xorg-lts-saucy | 18:15 |
| ricotz | mlankhorst, i am going push a patched 331.49 which builds on 3.14 to xedgers if you care | 18:15 |
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