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rcw2anyone having display issues with toolboxes sticking or the wrong size with gimp in updated saucy?00:13
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NewspeechEin kurzer Test.02:34
Unit193!de02:34
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Newspeechok thx02:35
SierraARAnybody have any good recommendations for IRC clients to run on kubuntu, that support SSL and connecting to multiple networks at once?02:36
DarthfrogI don't know about SSL, but I use Konversation.02:52
DarthfrogThere's also Quassel.02:52
DarthfrogThey're both native KDE IRC apps.02:52
Belial`SierraAR, quassel and konversation i believe both support ssl. most if not all modern irc clients support multiple networks.02:54
Unit193SierraAR: I'd hope/think most clients support that.  I know for a fact Quassel does, and Irssi does splendedly.02:54
Unit193splendidly02:54
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DEEPAKHI07:03
cffWhy do I get this when I do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade http://paste.kde.org/p54hgcbrx/zt484o#line-1?08:53
cffI have saucy-backports repo enabled08:54
cffsaucy and saucy-updates08:54
cff& saucy-security08:54
jussicff: this may be useless information, but have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade ?08:59
cffjussi: indeed, that seems to start the upgrade, not sure if it does the right thing09:04
cffjussi: as it removed some packages09:04
apacheloggerPPA upgrades sometimes need to remove/replace packages09:06
cffyes, but it removed nvidia driver and I think now it is no longer installed09:06
apacheloggerprobably you are usign the xorg-edgers ppa09:07
* apachelogger advises against using that particular PPA :P09:07
cffI've used it in the past but disabled it09:07
cffbecause it caused problems09:07
apacheloggercff: unless you run the tool ppa-purge you will likely still have packages from the PPA09:07
apacheloggerppa-purge essentially forcefully downgrades all packages from what was in the PPA to the official ubuntu version09:08
cffAfter reboot I have this problem: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  nvidia-current-updates : Depends: nvidia-304-updates but it is not going to be installed09:24
cffI no longer have any nvidia packages installed09:24
cffppa-purge didn't work for ppa:xorg-edgers09:25
cffWarning:  Could not find package list for PPA: ppa:xorg-edgers ppa:xorg-edgers09:25
cffSystemError: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.09:28
cffsudo apt-mark showhold returns 0 results09:28
cff:O09:28
cffsudo apt-get install -f ; sudo dpkg --configure -a ... nothing09:30
cffwhat happened?09:30
cffhuh gcc got uninstalled too09:36
cffgcc 4.809:36
cffThe following packages have unmet dependencies: gcc : Depends: gcc-4.8 (>= 4.8.1-4~) but it is not going to be installed09:36
lordievaderGood morning.09:42
cffnothing works09:48
cffDoes Kubuntu have GCC 4.8?10:06
cff13.1010:06
lordievader!info gcc10:08
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.122ubuntu3)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.8.1-2ubuntu3 (saucy), package size 5 kB, installed size 41 kB10:08
cfflordievader: they why do I get this http://paste.kde.org/pnor1fknt/vrhnsm ?10:11
lordievadercff: Because of unmet dependencies: http://paste.kde.org/pnor1fknt/vrhnsm10:14
cfflordievader: I've tried all the things in http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies can't find out why10:15
lordievaderErr "Depends: binutils (>= 2.23.90.20131017)" is what I ment.10:15
cfflordievader: everything I try to install fails10:16
lordievaderProbably because of a 3rd party repo.10:16
cfflordievader: do I need to enable / disable the 3rd party repo?10:16
lordievaderThat's correct apt refuses to install due to unmet dependencies.10:16
lordievadercff: You first need to find the one responsible and disable that one.10:16
cffI've disabled all 3rd parties same problem10:16
lordievaderAll in /etc/apt/{sources.list,sources.list.d/*}?10:17
lordievaderThis is why 3rd party repos can be a tricky thing, some debs might be compiled against different versions of libs. And in most cases Ubuntu doesn't support running multiple versions of the same lib.10:19
cfflordievader: yes http://paste.kde.org/p1xqr6ekn/0pr6ps10:20
lordievaderMight be remainder of when the 3rd party repo was around. Could you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy gcc binutils"10:22
lordievader!info gcc10:22
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.122ubuntu3)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.8.1-2ubuntu3 (saucy), package size 5 kB, installed size 41 kB10:22
lordievader!info binutils10:22
ubottubinutils (source: binutils): GNU assembler, linker and binary utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 2.23.52.20130913-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 3560 kB, installed size 10792 kB10:22
cfflordievader: http://paste.kde.org/p5zn9awqj/xuujr610:24
cffnot sure what to do now10:27
cffexcept reinstall10:27
lordievadercff: Assuming here that those mirror thingies are just that. Where does "sudo apt-get install gcc" get you?10:27
cfflordievader: http://paste.kde.org/p0zfxmml2/gck5mj10:59
lordievadercff: This is really strange. I get the feeling it is easier to just reinstall that to try and fix this mess.11:00
cfflordievader: right11:05
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apacheloggerlordievader: FWIW, apt-get can be made more verbose with -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true11:16
apacheloggerthat usually helps with finding out why things are being blocked11:16
lordievaderapachelogger: Ok, got to remember that one. Thanks :)11:17
cfflordievader: With aptitude I have this http://paste.kde.org/p2etakigw/y2hafs11:25
cfflordievader: I'm going to try "n" then accept the solution to downgrade packages11:27
lordievaderSo the question is why does it want an older version of the dependencies?11:27
cfflordievader: because I've had gcc toolchain repo11:28
cffi.e.e ubuntu-toolchain-r11:29
cff?info gcc11:32
cfflordievader: what's the command to see the gcc version in kubuntu 13.10 ?11:32
cffof the irc bot11:32
lordievader!info gcc11:32
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.122ubuntu3)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.8.1-2ubuntu3 (saucy), package size 5 kB, installed size 41 kB11:32
BluesKajHiyas all11:33
cffnow lets try to install nvidia drivers11:34
lordievadercff: Have you fixed your gcc issue?11:35
cfflordievader: yes, it downgrades to 4.8.111:35
cff*downgraded11:35
lordievaderAh, back to the Saucy current.11:36
Mamarokusing 13.10 here with KDE .12.2_ for some strange reason I don't see a spellchecker, despite it being installed. I have the system set to English and also added German and French, but only the spellchecker for English and French appear in the settings. Any ideas?12:10
MamarokKDE 4.12.2*12:10
cfflordievader: now I have skype unment dependecies, i.e. skype-bin12:18
lordievadercff: Hehe, will it ever end. Try: sudo apt-get install -f12:19
cfflordievader: it did a setup for 3 things12:19
Walex2Mamarok: there are several spell checking packages, and you got to install the "right" one, the one you have chosen12:21
cfflordievader: this is the exact problem I have http://askubuntu.com/questions/407921/how-to-install-skype-on-64bit-ubuntu-13-10-broken-dependencies12:22
Walex2Mamarok: alternatively you need to logout and login again perhaps. Or check the locale.12:22
MamarokWalex2: I already did all this, I have installed pretty much all KDE packages for German, so Kate should see that. Logged in and out again, nothing12:23
Mamarokeven in the system settings -> Locale I don't see German in the Spell checker list, only English and French12:23
MamarokI guess there is not a single German language package I didn't install, except for the hunspell ones12:24
lordievadercff: Have you tried the first answer? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-skype-in-ubuntu-12-04precise.html12:24
Mamarokcff: there is no 64bit package for Skype on Linux AFAIK, I have a 32bit one here, works fine12:25
Walex2Mamarok: the spell checker is not part of KDE...12:25
cfflordievader: http://paste.kde.org/phipotpus/5k2ue312:25
lordievaderThe 12.04 deb package from the Skype site is multi-arch.12:25
MamarokWalex2:read again, I have all those packages installed already, as I said above :)12:25
lordievadercff: That is not a good solution...12:26
cfflordievader: indeed12:26
lordievadercff: Go to http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/ select 12.04 multi arch and install the deb.12:27
* Mamarok installs the hunspell ones as well, maybe that helps12:27
Mamarokhm, apparently that conflicts with the myspell ones12:28
cfflordievader: same problem, unmet dependencies, I think I need to downgrade Qt12:29
lordievaderDidn't Skype use gtk? (Not sure here, haven't installed it in a while)12:30
cfflordievader: http://paste.kde.org/p0rzukaal/z8upgi12:30
cfflordievader: no, it uses Qt12:30
lordievaderI stand corrected.12:30
lordievadercff: Now try running "sudo apt-get install -f" again.12:31
cfflordievader: http://paste.kde.org/pih16nmtl/6kkby112:34
cffit tries to uninstall skype12:34
lordievadercff: That might very well be the skype from the repos. Just for clarity do you have a 64bit install or a 32bit one?12:37
cff64 bit one12:37
cff libxcb1 : Breaks: libxcb1:i386 (!= 1.10-2ubuntu1~xedgers~saucy1) but 1.9.1-3ubuntu1 is to be installed.12:37
cffthere are still packages left from xedgers12:37
cffrepository12:37
lordievaderUgh xorg edgers... This is one of the reasons I do not recommend using that repo.12:38
ikoniait's very very hit and miss12:38
Mamarokas said above: there currently iss no working 64bit version for Skype on Linux, use the 32bit one12:38
Mamarokis*12:38
cfflordievader: right, but ppa-purge doesn't work for it12:40
ikoniait should do, but PPA purge is just a script, so it can fail12:40
ikoniaor hit complications it can't deal with as it basically purges and trys to re-install from main, it can get blocked12:42
cffWarning:  Could not find package list for PPA: xorg-edgers ppa12:42
cffI've tried https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ppa-purge/+bug/892886/comments/712:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 892886 in ppa-purge (Ubuntu Precise) "ppa-purge is not multi-arch aware" [High,In progress]12:42
ikoniacff: have you disabled the PPA ?12:43
cffikonia: yes12:44
ikoniathen how do you expect it to get the package list ?12:44
cffikonia: enable it and try again?12:44
cffikonia: the files are still there...12:45
ikoniathe package list isn't12:45
ikoniaas that's on the repo12:45
ikoniaand how will it know the files/dependnecies/etc12:45
ikoniathe repo needs to be enabled to get the info on the repo12:45
jdolesWhy does Kubuntu as a separate brand exist?12:45
ikoniait works in a different way than ubuntu12:45
ikoniacontrolled by a different group12:46
jdolesDo you actually fix Kubuntu specific bugs?12:46
jdolesOr rather, KDE bugs.12:46
ikoniathey do fix bugs specific to kubuntu - but if it's the ubuntu core base that kde is built on then it will get fed into ubuntu to fix12:46
jdolesI for example don't like to have to change from KDE4 to something else, only because of memory leaks.12:46
ikoniawhat ?12:47
jdolesIt is *impossible* to run on 8GB of RAM (without swap) for more than one month.12:47
jdoleskded uses a ton of memory (GBs and growing infinitely).12:48
ikonia??? where did that come from, you just asked why kubuntu as a project existed ???12:48
ikonianow you've just jumped to a random problem you are having???12:48
jdolesikonia: the jump is not that great.12:48
ikoniait's pretty random12:48
jdolesAllow me to explain: if one takes true ownership of a project, bugs *are* fixed.12:49
jdolesBetween 4.8 and 4.12 I have seen some terrible crashes fixed, but this particular problem is years old.12:49
ikoniajdoles: is the problem with kubuntu or kde12:49
jdolesikonia: it is on Kubuntu, but likely originates in KDE.12:50
jdolesPeople say it is related to the powermanager,  but I am not even running that service.12:50
cffcanonical-qt5-edgers ppa is enable but ppa-purge gives Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: canonical-qt5-edgers ppa12:50
ikoniacff: is that ppa/host up12:51
ikoniajdoles: ok, so you can't expect kubuntu to fix kde over night, they may have logged bugs, but they don't fix/maintain kde12:51
ikoniajdoles: maybe try to participate in the project to help understand where the problem is and then you can work with kubuntu, or kde upstream if required to filter the fix down the projects12:51
cffyes, http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper/ubuntu/12:51
cffikonia: update responds12:52
ikoniacff: maybe the script is just failing then12:52
ikoniacff: as I said, it's a script, it's not perfect.12:52
cffor maybe I'm not calling it correctly12:53
cffI do this sudo ppa-purge ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/ppa12:53
ikoniado you need /ppa on the end ?12:53
ikoniaI've not got the syntax here12:53
BluesKajcff, why not just remove the ppa from /etc/apt/sources.list.d and muon , then update12:57
ikoniaBluesKaj: because it won't remove the packages that have already been installed12:57
ikoniaand if won't update until the conflicts created by the PPA are gone12:58
cffstrange, as per https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-proper , the ppa is ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper13:01
BluesKajppa purge takes out the installed packages too? , that's new to me13:01
rkatichevбНОПНЯ13:04
cffikonia: I think I found the culprit13:05
cffor not13:07
ikoniaexplain13:07
cffI've removed the existing qt edgers repo, then I've add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper ; apt-get update ; ppa-purge ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper13:08
cffsame outcome13:08
cffWarning:  Could not find package list for PPA: canonical-qt5-edgers qt5-proper13:08
cffbut something is wrong13:09
cffI can't see edgers in update13:09
cffhttp://paste.kde.org/p6fkqao77/1wguh413:11
cffI have the repo enabled at /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical-qt5-edgers-qt5-proper-saucy.list13:12
cffdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper/ubuntu saucy main13:12
cffWhy is the  #node.js channel empty?14:30
cffKoversation fail ?14:30
cffWhenever I try to install a VirtualBox VM with Kubuntu on  and press install my PC restarts15:00
cffwhaaat15:00
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dcorbin_I've had strange thing happen with recent upgrade...When ever I open a pidgin window, I get a pop up 'window' on the top-left side of the screen that appears to be tied to the "devices notifier".  It's blank other than "No devices available" and a separator bar.  The USB icon shows up in the System Tray, and click on it make the window go away.  Very annoying.  Any suggestions for fixing this problem?15:44
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rohanapachelogger: hey, are you around?19:19
pietro10Is there a preferred way to set up Kubuntu as a SMB server? I want to share down to a VM. Thanks.20:07
lordievaderpietro10: If the VM is on the same machine I'd use NFS.20:23
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pietro10lordievader: thanks20:25
pietro10lordievader: is there a way I can debug to see what is trying to connect to the server20:38
lordievaderpietro10: Depends largely on the protocol/program you use.20:38
pietro10lordievader: NFS using kubuntu as the host and the insturctions on the ubuntu wiki (which is command line)20:40
lordievaderpietro10: Ah, the nfs server logs to /var/log/syslog IIRC20:40
pietro10oh I was connecting wrong20:43
pietro10er20:43
pietro10specifying import path wrong20:43
pietro10now I just need the port that nfs runs on20:44
lordievaderpietro10: That is quite a problem. NFS doesn't use a static port.20:44
pietro10oh20:44
pietro10because I'm seeing messages like20:45
pietro10Feb 27 15:44:57 pietro-laptop rpc.mountd[4950]: refused mount request from 127.0.0.1 for /home/pietro/src/wingo (/home/pietro/src/wingo): illegal port 5556820:45
philipI have just installed 13.10 from a live cd on an old machine.  When asked to reboot it hangs on the Kubuntu splash screen.  Any hints?20:45
pietro10(port number changes each time)20:45
lordievaderpietro10: Exactly dynamic ports.20:45
lordievaderpietro10: Have you made a /etc/exports and given the client access?20:46
pietro10yes20:46
pietro10cmd: /home/pietro/src/wingo127.0.0.1(rw,sync,no_root_squash)20:46
lordievaderpietro10: And restarted the nfs daemon after you made the change?20:47
pietro10I think (made a few other IP test changes, don't rmeember which I restarted)20:49
pietro10let me try again20:49
pietro10yep20:49
pietro10still no go20:49
gomiboypietro10: you have to add "insecure" to /etc/exports options and then run exportfs -r20:50
pietro10ok20:50
pietro10awesome, thanks both of you20:51
philipI have just installed 13.10 from a live cd on an old machine.  When asked to reboot it hangs on the Kubuntu splash screen.  Any hints?21:00
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falsobuiohello to all. there are 2 folders in my home directory that i cannot open them or even when i hover over them pc lags. i tried to open the folder via terminal. then the terminal stuck for a while and saw some irrelevant rows appearing. then i made an sudo rm -r -f /path21:10
falsobuiobut  terminal is processing and not responding still plus that pc lags from time to time.21:10
ustanakHi, I am running Kubuntu on an HD display(Full 1080p). Things look small, and webpages in firefox I have to enlarge them with "CTRL +". In windows there is in option to make everything look bigger, which fixes Icons, Fonts, Webpages and everything. Is there some similar Option for KDE/Kubuntu So I don't have to fix everything seperately each time?21:59
soeeincrease fonts22:00
soeeor chande fonts DPI22:01
ustanakAs I said, It's not only about the fonts. It's about the Icons, Webpages,Fonts, Panel, Everything looks smaller.22:04
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eschi, i need a plasmoid for showing os updates23:24
esci think there was something on kubuntu by default some versions ago23:24
escbut now there isn't23:24
escso my GF doesn't install updates23:25
escideally, I would want something that is compatible with muon, which seems to be the kubuntu default package manager23:26
escum, hello?23:42
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