[16:59] <jKlaus> hey guys
[16:59] <jKlaus> What are your thoughts on installing mythbuntu-control-centre on debian?
[16:59] <tgm4883> hmm
[17:00] <jKlaus> I started using debian again on my desktop and I'm enjoying its stability
[17:00] <jKlaus> Not to say I won't enjoy 14.04LTS
[17:00] <jKlaus> Just trying to decide what I want to do
[17:00] <tgm4883> jKlaus, I've not tried it. I would grab a packaged released version. The port to python 3 is still ongoing so that will be broke
[17:01] <jKlaus> I've decided I'm going to install some form of incredibly stable OS as the host on my server then I'll shit around with VMs rather than screwing up my host
[17:01] <Zinn> jKlaus: Please watch your language.
[17:01] <jKlaus> sorry Zinn
[17:01] <Zinn> Hi jKlaus, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[17:02] <jKlaus> tgm4883 what OS do you run?  Mythbuntu I assume?
[17:03] <tgm4883> Mythbuntu 12.04 on my backend, Xubuntu 13.10 on my frontend/gaming machine
[17:03] <tgm4883> Kubuntu 13.10 on my laptop
[17:04] <jKlaus> hmm
[17:05] <jKlaus> I've been running ubuntu 12.04LTS on everything and like it but I've started to have to manaully do things to get new apps
[17:05] <jKlaus> I assume I'll have the same issue with debian
[17:05] <tgm4883> yes
[17:05] <jKlaus> but I'm afraid that'll cause breaks later
[17:05] <tgm4883> That is one reason I run 12.04 on the backend, and an updated OS on the frontend
[17:05] <jKlaus> Though if I isolate those issues by doing it all in VMs I couldn't care less
[17:06] <jKlaus> Yeah, my issue is that my BE is also my dev box, and also my living room FE
[17:06] <jKlaus> lol
[17:06] <jKlaus> I have considered pulling the hardware out of that box though
[17:07] <jKlaus> I could then use that box for gaming on the 57" lol
[17:07] <jKlaus> Not sure what I should do
[17:07] <jKlaus> I'm def moving my development stuff to a VM though
[17:07] <jKlaus> causes too many issues needing to upgrade libs and what not
[17:08] <tgm4883> yea dev should always be a VM or spare laptop
[17:09] <jKlaus> Yeah.. my server has more than enough to have a few headless VMs running
[17:10] <jKlaus> I just don't know what OS I want to use as my base/host on my server
[17:10] <jKlaus> Mythbuntu has done a decent job so far.. and I like what I see in 14.04 so far
[17:10] <jKlaus> but debian is known for stability.. hmm
[17:11] <jKlaus> mythbuntu control centre is just nice b/c it handles setting up lirc and all that crap
[17:11] <tgm4883> I don't use lirc anymore
[17:11] <jKlaus> oh?
[17:11] <jKlaus> all IP now?
[17:11] <tgm4883> nah, I used the in-kernel stuff for awhile until it wouldn't work on my new hardware anymore, then I got a wireless remote
[17:11] <jKlaus> I've debated going that route.  I use my phone and/or bluetooth keyboard more often anyway
[17:12] <jKlaus> oh you're RF now?
[17:12] <tgm4883> I can't stand using my phone, give me something I don't have to look at
[17:12] <tgm4883> yep
[17:12] <jKlaus> lol
[17:12] <tgm4883> I want to get one of these for testing too https://www.flirc.tv/
[17:12] <jKlaus> That is true..
[17:12] <tgm4883> brb
[17:13] <jKlaus> no shit..
[17:13] <jKlaus> that is awesome
[17:13] <Zinn> jKlaus: Please watch your language.
[17:13] <jKlaus> haha
[17:13] <jKlaus> oops
[17:22] <jKlaus> does anyone know if mythbuntu 14.04 will have the amazon search thing like ubuntu 14.04 does?
[17:26] <tgm4883> jKlaus, xubuntu doesn't have Unity, so no
[17:26] <jKlaus> ah
[17:26] <jKlaus> good point - i'm stupid lol
[17:26] <jKlaus> maybe I should give xubuntu a shot
[17:26] <jKlaus> haven't used it in a long time
[17:27] <jKlaus> other than mythbuntu that is
[17:27] <jKlaus> but I mean on my laptop
[17:27] <jKlaus> So far I'm liking debian for the daily driver though
[18:39] <toddc> jKlaus: might look into proxmox that is my host
[18:41] <toddc> docker is another one that I am looking into
[18:41] <jKlaus> do you run everything in a vm?
[18:41] <jKlaus> and just use the host to host VMs?
[18:41] <toddc> I will soon be 100% vm's
[18:43] <toddc> correct now I use virtualbox on the desktop and proxmox on the servers but planning to move desktops to proxmox or docker
[18:55] <jKlaus> hmm
[18:55] <jKlaus> interesting
[18:55] <jKlaus> Is this your 'home' network or work related?
[19:48] <toddc> jKlaus:  both
[19:49] <toddc> err two 1 work and 1 at home to host services on