| cub | zequence: I'm setting up two saucy VB on my pc now to test the upgrades, hopefully it will get done during the day. After that I will try the precise -> trusty even if there's no specific test cases for it at the moment | 08:57 |
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| cub | I'm on a mac today though, so testing jack and sound is often a bit messy | 08:58 |
| zequence | cub: I'll also give upgrading a try | 09:42 |
| * cub is kicking myself for not saving the old saucy installations | 09:48 | |
| zequence | Our DVD is starting to get quite large. I think we should consider a CD version for next release | 09:49 |
| zequence | I'm a bit curious on how much changes we can do for each point release. Would be good if we could do that for 14.04.1 | 09:49 |
| cub | is there a schedule for the 14.04.1 release? | 09:52 |
| cub | there's been the discussions on "bloatware" but on the other hand some argue that noone use CD anymore any way | 09:53 |
| zequence | I think the problem is the time it takes to download it, especially if you only need the bare system | 09:55 |
| zequence | I'm waiting for ubuntustudio-live to be accepted. Probably buggy, and needs to be fixed, but with that, the user can choose what to install | 09:55 |
| zequence | And, I need to make it able to download packages | 09:55 |
| zequence | Not just pick from the DVD/CD | 09:56 |
| cub | cool | 09:57 |
| cub | different question. If you want to convert a "standard" ubuntu to ubuntu studio, which packages are essential to get the audio and low latency kernel? | 10:00 |
| zequence | cub: You mean, just jack and audio configs? | 10:01 |
| cub | any other steps involved, as adding to the audio group or similar? I haven't done this in ages and I think it's different now since you did a lot of changes before 13.10? | 10:01 |
| zequence | Install jackd and linux-lowlatency. Add yourself to audio group. That's it | 10:01 |
| cub | it's a question on the ubuntuforums from a user who is going to buy a System76 pre-installed | 10:01 |
| zequence | If you need the pulseaudio bridge, install pulseaudio-module-jack | 10:01 |
| zequence | Ah | 10:01 |
| cub | there is an outdated wiki page | 10:01 |
| zequence | Yes. It's kind of big. Could be reduced | 10:02 |
| cub | so instead of reinstallation the pc with US which might break the support agreement with System76, we suggested to "just add" what you need | 10:02 |
| cub | but it would be good to specify what they actually need | 10:03 |
| zequence | This command will take care of everything: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio linux-lowlatency && sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER | 10:05 |
| zequence | That will get all the audio packages, and set the system up for low latency audio | 10:05 |
| cub | thanks! | 10:11 |
| cub | zequence: I'm starting an upgrade on amd64 now, going to let it run over lunch break | 10:31 |
| cub | zequence: when I did "update-manager -d -c" it didn't really do much. Said to restart to finish the updates but lsb_release still show 13.10 | 10:48 |
| cub | running again seems to start the upgrading | 10:49 |
| zequence | cub: Yes, update-manager seems to want to make sure the system has the latest upgrades of packages, before being willing to upgrade to the next release | 12:41 |
| zequence | Fak, I downloaded the wrong arch | 12:45 |
| cub | half way through the amd64, takes a loooong time. Won't have time for the i386 today | 12:48 |
| zequence | I'm doing the i386. As soon as I get the right image | 12:51 |
| zequence | Having some problems getting the new ubuntustudio-live package uploaded, but getting a lot of help, so should be done within a couple of days, I hope | 13:30 |
| zequence | Had a wonderful crash, while I was installing on virtualbox | 13:45 |
| zequence | My computer is crapping out. How wonderful | 13:58 |
| cub | great timing. :P | 14:11 |
| holstein | i think a system76 rig would be a nice half of the equation | 14:19 |
| holstein | not sure what audio interface i would pair with that these days | 14:19 |
| cub | Open a terminal and enter the command grep Prompt= | 14:33 |
| cub | /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | 14:33 |
| cub | zequence: is the step 7 correct? | 14:33 |
| cub | hmm my paste went wrong but anyhow | 14:33 |
| cub | I figured it out but the test case have some typos | 15:01 |
| zequence_ | cub: I don't think the test case is up to date | 15:18 |
| cub | nope | 15:18 |
| zequence_ | cub: You can check which release it is by doing: cat /etc/issue | 15:18 |
| cub | I did a "more" and grep which showed me what was expected | 15:18 |
| zequence_ | holstein: Yeah, they don't have firewire ports on those machines. Probably only a handful of usb devices one should even consider | 15:18 |
| cub | I tested some applications but since my macbook and Vbox doesn't work well with audio I really couldn't test that | 15:18 |
| zequence_ | I don't think vbox will work well on any platform, in lower latencies | 15:19 |
| elfy | if there are issues with the testcases - report them as bugs - just make sure to note the testcase number | 15:19 |
| zequence_ | One needs to set jack to a period of over 2000 | 15:19 |
| cub | aha | 15:20 |
| cub | do we count my tests as passed anyway? | 15:20 |
| zequence_ | cub: Sure. No problems at all? | 15:28 |
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| cub | two bugs, but otherwise no issues | 15:29 |
| cub | same bugs as the "standard" installation so | 15:29 |
| zequence | aha | 15:30 |
| zequence | I usually get problems in user files | 15:30 |
| cub | oh? | 15:30 |
| cub | what kind? | 15:30 |
| zequence | Corrupted login window is one that I've had for a couple of releases | 15:30 |
| zequence | Nothing big, but not great | 15:30 |
| cub | the login window was ugly, but not broken | 15:30 |
| zequence | Ugly, how? | 15:31 |
| cub | Bigger and more white than in 13.10 | 15:31 |
| cub | I thought it was supposed to look like that. :D | 15:31 |
| zequence | Maybe, I don't know | 15:32 |
| zequence | more white, how? | 15:32 |
| zequence | The theming? | 15:32 |
| cub | let's see if I can bring up a sceenshot | 15:32 |
| cub | it was the same on my beta tests a couple of days ago | 15:32 |
| cub | !paste | 15:34 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 15:34 |
| cub | http://imagebin.org/296143 | 15:36 |
| cub | perhaps different because of mugshot? | 15:36 |
| zequence | It has seen some changes this cycle, so I think that's normal | 15:37 |
| zequence | Maybe it would be possible to change the coloring a bit | 15:37 |
| cub | probably | 15:37 |
| zequence | Not a major issue, IMO :) | 15:37 |
| cub | nope | 15:37 |
| cub | also depends on how madeinkobaia changes the overall look for trusty? | 15:38 |
| cub | if that's still on the table? | 15:38 |
| zequence | No, I think we should only expect a new wp at the most | 15:38 |
| zequence | I'm still possibly updating ubuntustudio-controls, which I haven't yet completed | 15:39 |
| zequence | And, need to see what else I can do with our installer | 15:39 |
| zequence | Once those two things are done, and before UI freeze, we need to update the slideshow | 15:39 |
| zequence | Lastly, our website | 15:39 |
| cub | yeah | 15:40 |
| zequence | One thing that bothers me this release is that we have yet not gone through our package selection | 15:40 |
| zequence | It's more or less untouched for years now | 15:40 |
| cub | yes I had high hopes after 13.10 release but then life happened | 15:40 |
| zequence | Well, at least on the audio, video and graphics side, where only minor changes have been made. Nothing overall | 15:40 |
| zequence | I mean, nothing grand | 15:40 |
| cub | no the biggest change is dropping ardour 2 | 15:41 |
| zequence | The meta hasn't been updated yet, so that is probably the reason it gets installed (if it still does) | 15:41 |
| cub | if that is still to be done. Seems to be included in the beta. | 15:41 |
| zequence | Yeah, I've only done the seeds. Need to update the meta. I'll have that done directly after the beta | 15:42 |
| cub | I'm starting a new job on Monday so quite busy this and the upcoming weeks | 15:42 |
| zequence | I'm doing php and mysql work in my internship. Feels like my mind is running out of drive space | 15:43 |
| zequence | I'm probably just being thoroughly inefficient, in how I manage to get so little done | 15:44 |
| cub | where's that? | 15:44 |
| zequence | zetup.se | 15:44 |
| cub | nice | 15:46 |
| cub | I'm going back to the world of Skanska. | 15:46 |
| cub | used to be server admin there 15- years ago | 15:46 |
| cub | and will do Service Management for the infrastructure department | 15:46 |
| cub | what about your plans for changes on the website that Nick started out with? | 15:47 |
| cub | anything we should get back on the table? I could take a look if possible | 15:48 |
| zequence | cub: Once we're done developing this release, if you have time, we can do that anytime. Around release time would of course be most suitable | 15:52 |
| zequence | Would be nice to make a few small changes for the theming | 15:53 |
| zequence | Also, we need to update the content. The feature tour especially | 15:53 |
| zequence | And think about what we could improve overall. I'd like make it easy as pie for people to get involved | 15:53 |
| cub | let me know if I can help out | 16:01 |
| cub | heading home to my poorly little daughter now | 16:01 |
| holstein | zequence: i have a nice texas instruments express card | 20:18 |
| zequence | holstein: Cool. I've heard it's hard to get those working right. I might get a system76 sometime, if I can get firewire working on it | 20:56 |
| zequence | Beta 1 out. Going to see if it's ok to make release postings | 20:56 |
| holstein | zequence: all i own is an HP netbook that i use the expree card with.. but i have tried it with at least 4 or 5 other devices, no troubles | 21:33 |
| holstein | maybe its something with certain laptop MB's | 21:33 |
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