| pleia2 | added german and revised french translations of the startubuntu flyer to http://xubuntu.org/marketingresources/ \o/ | 00:41 |
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| pleia2 | ooh, there's a danish one too /me adds | 00:41 |
| knome | aha | 01:08 |
| ochosi | Unit193: seemingly not, this is the place it checks for global default configurations of the plugin. best to submit an issue on github about it | 07:11 |
| Unit193 | No GH account. :P | 07:17 |
| elfy | knome and anyone else interested - beta 1 is now marked ready | 07:26 |
| === DanChapman__ is now known as DanChapman | ||
| Unit193 | Howdy, cub. | 08:43 |
| cub | Morning! | 08:43 |
| Unit193 | jjfrv8: Line 50 of your merge proposal, that isn't actually opening the Applications Menu if we do go with whiskermenu. | 09:13 |
| Unit193 | (Also, not just indicators but notification area too, but that's even more minor.) | 09:15 |
| elfy | knome: I've done draft announcements - I assumed you wanted 2 - the pad made it look like that to me | 10:26 |
| starrats | just let you all know that just finished update/upgrade/dist-upgrade and now a new one popped in term about not needing certain items and to do apt-get autoremove and all wen quite well. | 10:29 |
| starrats | Just a question, are the little notes that I tell you here bother or help you as a user coming here? | 10:50 |
| elfy | they don't bother me - but I tend to skim them unless there's an issue :) | 10:51 |
| elfy | they might bother other people though ;) | 10:51 |
| starrats | ah okay if they bother then I won't relay them unless it becomes and issue but then it's usually to late, at least for me | 10:54 |
| elfy | well we are working on the dev version - so any issues either should have or need a bug report, regardless of whether it's too late for you or not | 10:55 |
| schproodle | What does 'ready' mean here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/312/builds | 12:01 |
| schproodle | 'Upgrade Xubuntu i386 (ready)' | 12:02 |
| elfy | that it is marked as ready for release | 12:03 |
| schproodle | elfy, What other testing for xubuntu should I explore? | 12:04 |
| elfy | http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds/55995/testcases | 12:05 |
| elfy | packages if you want - specifically the Xubuntu Networking and Xubuntu Trusty Additional groups at the bottom | 12:06 |
| slickymasterWork | schproodle: what elfy is referring to is http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds/55995/testcases | 12:13 |
| slickymasterWork | ups, elfy already had provided you the link | 12:13 |
| schproodle | Yes, thanks. | 12:14 |
| schproodle | Wish I could get the Guest Additions installed on vm -- lousy 640 x 480 resolution. Doesn't seem to work on 14.04 vm. | 12:26 |
| slickymasterWork | schproodle: what virtualization software are you using? | 12:31 |
| slickymasterWork | Oracle VirtualBox? | 12:31 |
| knome | elfy, one for the blog, one as the full notes in the wiki | 12:32 |
| schproodle | yes, seems to work for Debian vm but not for 14.04 | 12:32 |
| slickymasterWork | what version? | 12:32 |
| slickymasterWork | is it 4.3.8? | 12:33 |
| slickymasterWork | and what VBGuestAdditions version are you using? | 12:33 |
| schproodle | 4.2.16 on 13.10 | 12:34 |
| slickymasterWork | schproodle: you have to update them. Thing is your VBoxGuestAdditions version doesn't recognize the latest release of X.Org Server, which is now 1.15 in Trusty, so they fail to install | 12:35 |
| schproodle | 4.2.16_86992 | 12:35 |
| slickymasterWork | schproodle: ^^ | 12:36 |
| schproodle | right, do I have to upgrade vbox too | 12:36 |
| slickymasterWork | I would advise to do so | 12:37 |
| schproodle | that is the one in the respository for 13.10 however. Sorry, I am not more adroit. | 12:38 |
| slickymasterWork | schproodle: you can download VirtualBox 4.3.8 for Linux from https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads. Just make sure you download the right file for your architecture (32bit or 64bit) | 12:42 |
| schproodle | yes, I just found that. got the deb | 12:44 |
| slickymasterWork | ok, once downloaded all you have to do is to navigate into the folder where you downloaded, open a terminal there and run sudo dpkg -i <file_name>.deb | 12:46 |
| schproodle | seems I have to remove guest additions first however | 12:47 |
| schproodle | the old version Using synaptic to clear out the old vbox | 12:47 |
| schproodle | I will get the new Guest stuff but there is another addition for usb, can't remember | 12:48 |
| schproodle | extension pack?? | 12:53 |
| elfy | knome: don't understand what you mean | 13:00 |
| knome | elfy, the release *announcment* is meant for the blog | 13:03 |
| knome | elfy, the release *notes* are meant for the wiki, along with the usual common infrastructure -changes | 13:03 |
| elfy | oic | 13:05 |
| elfy | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Trusty/Beta1 or something | 13:06 |
| knome | well something in those lines | 13:06 |
| elfy | without the roadmap bits :p | 13:07 |
| knome | lol | 13:07 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu/Beta1 | 13:07 |
| elfy | anyway - I hate fighting the stupid wiki | 13:07 |
| knome | hmm wait | 13:07 |
| knome | hah | 13:07 |
| knome | leave that to me then ;) | 13:07 |
| knome | not that... | 13:07 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Beta1/Xubuntu | 13:07 |
| knome | that | 13:07 |
| knome | did the first version of that | 13:10 |
| elfy | yep | 13:10 |
| elfy | I'll do the bug links if you like | 13:11 |
| knome | nah, i'm on it | 13:11 |
| elfy | ok | 13:11 |
| elfy | knome: the announcement just needs the torrent/download links when we get them - and you to decide you don't like the way it looks :) | 13:12 |
| knome | does the users-admin bug actually stop you from adding a new user? | 13:15 |
| knome | also, is the USC bug happening every time? | 13:16 |
| elfy | user-admins lets you add user and set it up | 13:16 |
| elfy | and I doubt it for USC | 13:17 |
| knome | so, what's the crash? | 13:17 |
| knome | just crashes after it has added the user? | 13:17 |
| elfy | but then the keyboard one won't affect anyone other than people with a gb layout | 13:17 |
| elfy | yea - crashes after close of it seemingly | 13:17 |
| knome | ok, just updated the wikipage | 13:19 |
| knome | check if those are accurate descriptions | 13:19 |
| elfy | not easy to decide which to mention - the kbd one affects me - the network share one I'd not take any notice of | 13:19 |
| elfy | looking | 13:19 |
| knome | well at least we have now user-understandable descriptions to look at | 13:19 |
| knome | and decide | 13:19 |
| knome | updated | 13:20 |
| knome | s/GB/British/ | 13:20 |
| elfy | Thunar doesn't automatically removable - missing mount | 13:20 |
| elfy | Both xscreensaver light-locker are active - missing and | 13:21 |
| knome | feel free to edit :P | 13:22 |
| knome | i've dropped the edit lock | 13:22 |
| elfy | thought you still had lock :) | 13:22 |
| elfy | well you did when I looked lol | 13:22 |
| elfy | ok - all done then | 13:23 |
| knome | ok, good | 13:24 |
| slickymaster | Unit193: changed the changelog according to what we discussed -> See revision 149 | 13:24 |
| knome | now should look at the announcement | 13:24 |
| slickymaster | Unit193: I think is good to be merged now | 13:25 |
| knome | hmm, yeah... | 13:26 |
| * knome drops "new wallpaper" from the notes | 13:26 | |
| knome | we don't have that yet :P | 13:26 |
| knome | elfy, which issues do we want to pick for the announcement? | 13:29 |
| knome | i'm not sure if there is actually any *really annoying* one | 13:29 |
| knome | looking at the list we have in the notes | 13:29 |
| knome | except maybe the xsreensaver/light-locker one, but that's only on suspend | 13:30 |
| elfy | well - everyone will get the xfdesktop one | 13:30 |
| elfy | thunar and usb's has been going on for ages so ... | 13:30 |
| knome | yah | 13:30 |
| knome | maybe those | 13:30 |
| elfy | probably just the new ones - xfdesktop, network shares, xscreensaver/light-locker and a special mention for anyone with a gb keybord lol | 13:31 |
| knome | nah, i think that's fine not in the annoucement :P | 13:31 |
| elfy | :p | 13:31 |
| knome | so shares | 13:32 |
| knome | m | 13:32 |
| elfy | yea - just the 3 I'd say - it links to release notes | 13:32 |
| knome | 3? :P | 13:32 |
| knome | oh | 13:32 |
| knome | yeah.... | 13:32 |
| elfy | :) | 13:32 |
| knome | i'm messing up with the annoucement | 13:32 |
| knome | http://xubuntu.org/?p=2152&preview=true | 13:34 |
| elfy | looks | 13:34 |
| knome | thinking some subheadings could do good for that :P | 13:34 |
| knome | updated | 13:35 |
| elfy | highlights and known issues | 13:35 |
| knome | further udpated | 13:35 |
| elfy | I was just about to say that lol | 13:35 |
| elfy | yea that looks ok to me | 13:36 |
| knome | yep, now just need the download links | 13:36 |
| elfy | yep | 13:36 |
| elfy | first one to see them edit and publish? | 13:36 |
| knome | worksforme | 13:36 |
| knome | well, | 13:36 |
| knome | publish only after it's official ;) | 13:36 |
| knome | but yep, that's what we should do | 13:37 |
| elfy | yea of course | 13:37 |
| * knome goes poking the wiki, need to include the common known issues | 13:37 | |
| knome | ok, the wiki should be in order | 13:41 |
| knome | ...and changed the link on the announcement to the correct url | 13:42 |
| elfy | thanks | 13:43 |
| knome | back to reading irc logs | 13:43 |
| elfy | lol | 13:44 |
| GridCube | elfy, knome, shouldnt it point the issue with no wallpapers shown in xfdesktop settings manager? i mean we are saying that there are new wallpapers avialable but people wont be able to find them | 14:05 |
| knome | GridCube, can you confirm that bug is still in beta1? | 14:10 |
| GridCube | yes | 14:11 |
| knome | is there a bug report for it? | 14:11 |
| GridCube | there is | 14:11 |
| knome | can you link us to that, and we'll make sure it's in the annoucement/notes | 14:11 |
| knome | i need to do some commercial work for a bit | 14:11 |
| GridCube | getting it | 14:11 |
| knome | bbiab | 14:11 |
| GridCube | here knome https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfdesktop/+bug/1271713 | 14:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1271713 in xfdesktop "xubuntu 14.04 trusty thar desktop wallpapers selection shows empty" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:11 |
| knome | elfy, ochosi ^ | 14:12 |
| ochosi | still the case with xfdesktop4.11.3? | 14:13 |
| GridCube | its still there in the beta1 iso | 14:13 |
| ochosi | oh | 14:13 |
| ochosi | that's not a bug in xfdesktop | 14:13 |
| ochosi | i guess it's a bug in xubuntu-default-settings or something | 14:14 |
| ochosi | cause xfdesktop isn't pointing to a folder with wallpapers | 14:14 |
| knome | yep | 14:14 |
| ochosi | ok, will do a merge-request/fix for that then | 14:14 |
| jjfrv8 | Unit193, not sure what you mean by "that isn't actually opening the Applications Menu" | 14:15 |
| ochosi | (i think he meant applications-menu isn't the same as whiskermenu, but frankly i don't think that matters for users) | 14:16 |
| ochosi | (two different plugins with the same purpose, so if you refer to them functionally, it's the same) | 14:16 |
| elfy | GridCube: you doing that now? | 14:17 |
| jjfrv8 | yeah, I wanted some feedback on the terminology we should be using now. Like do we ever actually want to refer to it as "Whisker Menu" | 14:17 |
| jjfrv8 | the only time ppl will actually see that name is when they go into Properties | 14:17 |
| GridCube | elfy, doing what | 14:18 |
| elfy | This content is currently locked. If you take over, GridCube will be blocked from continuing to edit. | 14:18 |
| GridCube | sorry | 14:19 |
| GridCube | closed the window | 14:19 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: yeah, i personally wouldn't refer to it as whiskermenu | 14:20 |
| knome | maybe just refer to it as "menu" | 14:20 |
| knome | to avoid *any* ambiguity | 14:20 |
| jjfrv8 | "main menu"? | 14:20 |
| knome | that's the friendly name for menulibre in the settings manager | 14:20 |
| jjfrv8 | I think Main Menu in SM is still alacarte, Menu Editor is MenuLibre | 14:21 |
| knome | ah, that | 14:22 |
| knome | but anyway.. | 14:22 |
| knome | it's used | 14:22 |
| elfy | done both pages | 14:25 |
| jjfrv8 | and speaking of that, we've got three different names for Settings Manager. the WM tooltip says "All Settings", the actual dialog says "Settings", the menu entry says "Settings Manager". | 14:26 |
| knome | elfy, thanks | 14:26 |
| * elfy has been putting off a trawl through testcases for Application Menu | 14:27 | |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: probably worth an upstream bugreport | 14:27 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, where should I file that? | 14:28 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: xfce4-settings on bugs.xfce.org. but i guess you need a full proposal on what to rename to what | 14:29 |
| ochosi | who would quickly wanna test a proposed setting for 14.04? (it takes about 1min) | 14:29 |
| GridCube | in the topic of beta1 bugs, #1284720 | 14:29 |
| knome | bug 1284720 | 14:29 |
| ubottu | bug 1284720 in Mugshot "mugshot fails at attempt to change avatar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1284720 | 14:29 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, what you got to test? | 14:30 |
| GridCube | toz pointed why it fails, and it seems we dont ship the preset faces anymore (they are there in 13.10) | 14:30 |
| ochosi | run "xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Gtk/IconSizes -s "gtk-button=16,16" in the terminal | 14:32 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: ^ (and all others interested) | 14:32 |
| ochosi | that is a setting i'd love to have in 14.04 by default | 14:33 |
| ochosi | (16px icons on buttons instead of the huge-ish 22px) | 14:33 |
| jjfrv8 | doesn't look like it changed anything for me | 14:35 |
| elfy | GridCube: the thing is - where do we stop listing bugs? page 2 or 3 or 4 :) | 14:36 |
| GridCube | oh | 14:36 |
| GridCube | i did not meant to list that on the news page, i just wanted for people to remember it exist P: | 14:37 |
| elfy | oic :) | 14:37 |
| GridCube | the wallpaper one i find important 'cos we say we have new wallpaper but they wont see them | 14:37 |
| * elfy still thinks that the gb keyboard one is important :) | 14:37 | |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-02-27-154344.php (proposed look) | 14:43 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-02-27-154410.php (current look) | 14:44 |
| jjfrv8 | ah so. I agree. Looks nicer. | 14:45 |
| ochosi | everyone else, feel free to take a look at this ^ and try for yourselves | 14:46 |
| ochosi | (run "xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Gtk/IconSizes -s "gtk-button=16,16" in the terminal, to reset set it to 22,22) | 14:46 |
| jjfrv8 | for similar reasons, I like to set whisker to "very small" | 14:48 |
| GridCube | ochosi, i notice that the X on close changes icons between each size | 14:48 |
| GridCube | its prosible to have the bold X in the tiny icons? | 14:48 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: the categories are set to 16px in my proposal, apps to 24px | 14:48 |
| ochosi | GridCube: yeah, i'd try to improve that | 14:49 |
| GridCube | the arrow remains basically the same | 14:49 |
| GridCube | i like the smaller button but the x looks not similar to the arrow | 14:49 |
| ochosi | well don't focus too much on the "x" right now | 14:51 |
| ochosi | it changes all icons | 14:51 |
| ochosi | just try it | 14:51 |
| ali1234 | omg | 14:52 |
| ali1234 | sort out the vertical alignment | 14:52 |
| ali1234 | this is not KDE... | 14:52 |
| ochosi | what are you referring to exactly? | 14:53 |
| ali1234 | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-02-27-154344.php | 14:54 |
| ali1234 | icons are too high, text is too high | 14:54 |
| ochosi | say thanks to gtk2 | 14:54 |
| ochosi | and it's only 1px | 14:55 |
| ali1234 | also text is too high relative to the icon | 14:55 |
| ochosi | so you prefer the huge icons? | 14:56 |
| ali1234 | i prefer the one where the icons are in the right place, yes | 14:57 |
| ali1234 | the text is too high on both | 14:57 |
| ali1234 | it should be 1px lower relative to the icons in both | 14:57 |
| ochosi | you're welcome to investigate that 1px, so far you seem to be the first person to notice/mention that | 14:58 |
| ali1234 | actually i don't understand how the <- is even number of pixels tall and the X is odd number of pixels tall | 14:58 |
| ali1234 | look at the middle of the <- - it is two pixels | 14:58 |
| ochosi | ok, before everyone keeps commenting on the close-icon, here's a different screenshot: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-02-27-160003.php | 15:00 |
| ali1234 | gah that's even worse | 15:00 |
| ochosi | it's the same alignment | 15:00 |
| knome | ali1234, patches welcome | 15:01 |
| ali1234 | two pixels padding at the top 4 pixels at the bottom | 15:01 |
| ochosi | gtk2 doesn't support that fine-grained-ness of theming | 15:02 |
| ochosi | you can work around it by redrawing all icons from 16x16 to 16x15 possibly | 15:02 |
| ochosi | (or it might even be further off then) | 15:02 |
| ali1234 | i don't know about that... all i know is orion draws the icons and the text in the right place | 15:02 |
| ochosi | and anyway, doesn't solve your problem with the font | 15:02 |
| ali1234 | what font is that? | 15:03 |
| ochosi | Droid Sans 9 | 15:04 |
| ochosi | our default | 15:04 |
| ali1234 | what icon set is it? | 15:05 |
| ochosi | orion has the same settings | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | yeah, i just can't make my system look like your screenshot | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | not even if i switch to greybird | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | oh wait, yeah i can | 15:07 |
| ali1234 | yeah that's definitely down to using a tiny font | 15:07 |
| ochosi | and it's only an "optical illusion" that the icon has a 1px offset | 15:08 |
| lderan | elfy, got that keyboard bug as well | 15:08 |
| ochosi | ali1234: 4px above and below: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-02-27-160754.php | 15:08 |
| ochosi | ali1234: it's just the bright inside border in greybird that makes it seem uncentererd | 15:08 |
| ali1234 | right, so remove that | 15:08 |
| ochosi | right, no | 15:08 |
| elfy | lderan: yep - saw that - I'd hazard a guess that anyone with a gb keyboard will | 15:08 |
| ali1234 | from the icon i mean | 15:08 |
| ochosi | yeah then i can change that one icon | 15:09 |
| ochosi | what about the others? | 15:09 |
| ochosi | also: the white bottom border has a purpose | 15:09 |
| ochosi | should help the icon stand out on darker backgrounds | 15:09 |
| ochosi | and anyhoo, the font is still uncentered then (which it is anyways) | 15:09 |
| ochosi | what really makes that icon seem uncentered is the white inner border of the button | 15:11 |
| ochosi | ali1234: you're using a different font-setup though anyways, right? | 15:21 |
| ali1234 | probably | 15:21 |
| ochosi | if it consoles anyone, i'm not using this setup either | 15:22 |
| ochosi | i'm using "xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Gtk/ButtonImages -s false" | 15:23 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8, GridCube: in case you wanna test one more setting ^ | 15:27 |
| === zequence_ is now known as zequence | ||
| elfy | unsurprisingly elfy didn't see any change with any of them | 15:29 |
| elfy | really needs new glasses ... | 15:29 |
| ochosi | hihi | 15:30 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, is that just supposed to set it back to the default of 22x22? | 15:30 |
| jjfrv8 | oops, wait, didn't look closely enough | 15:31 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: it should hide the icons actually | 15:32 |
| jjfrv8 | yeah, I'm having to type the commands and I didn't see the difference. I like the icons, though. | 15:33 |
| ali1234 | ochosi: do you know anything about the monitors.xml and the monitor config panel? | 15:40 |
| ali1234 | especially wrt bug 1283615 | 15:40 |
| ubottu | bug 1283615 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "gnome-settings-daemon trashes monitor config" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1283615 | 15:40 |
| ali1234 | eg where does the xfce config panel save the settings? and what applies them at startup? and does it get run inside the greeter? | 15:41 |
| jjfrv8 | bb later for the meeting | 15:44 |
| binali | Good Luck! | 15:44 |
| ochosi | ali1234: you mean the display dialog? that's part of xfce4-settings, so xfsettingsd is applying the settings | 15:45 |
| ochosi | and no, it's not running in the greeter yet | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | i'm going to try to figure out why all the output names are off by one | 15:46 |
| GridCube | sorry ochosi i had to close the beta1 virtual machine it was eating too much resources and i needed to catalogue some stuffs, can i test it in this machine (13.04) | 15:52 |
| GridCube | ? | 15:52 |
| GridCube | oh, that takes the icons off the buttons, i like that ochosi, but remember that the icons help people who has some sort of reading disparity | 15:53 |
| GridCube | s/has/have/ | 15:54 |
| brainwash | GridCube: you should upgrade your 13.04 system :) | 15:55 |
| GridCube | P: i will once 14.04 comes up | 15:55 |
| brainwash | fresh installation? | 15:56 |
| elfy | or fight upgrading an eol install :) | 15:56 |
| GridCube | P: will probably be fresh, yes | 15:57 |
| ochosi | ali1234: good idea, that doesn't happen with all drivers though. for me, it works with nouveau and is off by one with nvidia. display-settings work is fun! | 16:11 |
| elfy | GridCube: you know that 14.04 is pretty much solid as a rock anyway - then you could test things really easily :) | 16:20 |
| GridCube | mmm but the 14.04 vbox is stuck at 640x480 resolution, and to download the vbox addons i would have to figure out, again, how to mess with the internal settings so apt-get can actually bypass the proxy(given that there is no way to set up proxys in xubuntu) so, yeah, not gonna mess with that | 16:23 |
| elfy | ochosi: is there a good reason why hotkeys in gmusicbrowser don't work on other workspaces? | 16:23 |
| elfy | GridCube: oh - so you don't have xubuntu on hardware - I'd have kept quiet if I'd known that | 16:23 |
| GridCube | P: | 16:24 |
| elfy | GridCube: also - try getting a new vbox - works here now | 16:24 |
| GridCube | :D | 16:24 |
| ochosi | elfy: depends on what you mean. you can define hotkeys within gmusicbrowser, but afaik those need the window to have focus | 16:24 |
| elfy | yea - exactly what I mean | 16:24 |
| ochosi | elfy: you can also define global keyboard-shortcuts for gmusicbrowser in the keyboard-settings | 16:24 |
| GridCube | the vbox ihave is the only one IT will install for me | 16:24 |
| ochosi | elfy: check "gmusicbrowser -listcmd" for the available commands | 16:24 |
| elfy | GridCube: aah - okay - I'll shut up then | 16:24 |
| * GridCube goes to ot | 16:25 | |
| elfy | ochosi: thanks :) | 16:25 |
| ochosi | elfy: no problem :) | 16:25 |
| elfy | ochosi - thanks, got those going now | 16:37 |
| crusador | I have a problem transferring complete files to an usb or hdd device with Emmabuntus2....sometimes the file is not totally transferd | 16:40 |
| crusador | Can anyone help | 16:40 |
| knome | crusador, we don't support emmabuntus 2 | 16:41 |
| knome | crusador, and this is the development channel, not the support channel | 16:41 |
| crusador | sorry im new in linux | 16:41 |
| crusador | where can i get help | 16:42 |
| knome | crusador, http://forums.emmabuntus.org/ | 16:44 |
| crusador | thank you so much | 16:44 |
| crusador | its not working...but thank you anyway | 16:47 |
| knome | you should ask for help from any emmabuntus support channel, or whatever they are offering | 16:47 |
| knome | we're unable to support derivatives that base on our system, because we don't know what kind of changes they might or might not have done | 16:48 |
| crusador | i got it thanks | 16:48 |
| ochosi | meeting in 1hr or in 2? | 17:00 |
| knome | 2 | 17:00 |
| * ochosi is a bit confused right now | 17:00 | |
| ochosi | ok | 17:00 |
| * knome slaps ochosi | 17:00 | |
| knome | does that help with the confusion? | 17:00 |
| ochosi | i guess not | 17:01 |
| knome | hah | 17:01 |
| ochosi | in case i forget to announce that later, lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings is pretty much ready now | 17:01 |
| ochosi | (UI to configure every aspect of the greeter, incl. the position of the login-window) | 17:01 |
| GridCube | o: | 17:02 |
| GridCube | thats awesome | 17:02 |
| ochosi | hopefully we can get it in with a FFe | 17:03 |
| brainwash | ochosi: how do you launch it, so it can actually change the config file owned by root? | 17:04 |
| ochosi | pkexec | 17:05 |
| brainwash | ok | 17:05 |
| ochosi | the desktop-file will just contain that | 17:05 |
| ochosi | so like synaptic, it'll spawn a pwd-dialog | 17:05 |
| brainwash | sounds great :) | 17:06 |
| ochosi | it is :) | 17:06 |
| slickymasterWork | ochosi: just installed light-locker settings lderan did but when I try to run it I get ->Unable to start /usr/bin/light-locker-settings. Failed to execute child process /usr/bin/light-locker-settings (No such file or directory) | 17:08 |
| ochosi | slickymaster: you installed it from the PPA? | 17:09 |
| ochosi | gah | 17:09 |
| ochosi | slickymasterWork: | 17:09 |
| ochosi | ^ | 17:09 |
| slickymasterWork | nopes, downloaded the tar and installed it | 17:10 |
| slickymasterWork | on B1 | 17:10 |
| ochosi | then you messed that up :) | 17:10 |
| ochosi | just use the PPA | 17:10 |
| slickymasterWork | how come? | 17:10 |
| ochosi | i guess you'd have had to use parameters, frankly, i never installed it manually | 17:11 |
| slickymasterWork | I build it and then istall it | 17:11 |
| ochosi | when testing it, i just ran it from the folder without installing | 17:11 |
| slickymasterWork | what are the parameters? | 17:11 |
| ochosi | as i just said... | 17:11 |
| ochosi | i wouldn't know | 17:11 |
| slickymasterWork | ok | 17:12 |
| brainwash | where did you install it? | 17:12 |
| ochosi | you can also try to locate the binary | 17:12 |
| ochosi | maybe it ended up in /usr/local/bin | 17:12 |
| brainwash | the executable is apparently not where it should be | 17:12 |
| slickymasterWork | hmm, nopes | 17:13 |
| slickymasterWork | no wait, you're right, It went to /usr/local(bin/ | 17:15 |
| ochosi | then "--prefix=/usr" would solve that problem most likely | 17:15 |
| slickymasterWork | yeaps, it did solve it | 17:16 |
| slickymasterWork | ochosi: the PREFIX value in the configure file is set to /usr/local | 17:18 |
| slickymasterWork | that's most likely the culprit | 17:18 |
| ochosi | slickymasterWork: that's normal, if you build and install more stuff by hand you'll notice | 17:19 |
| slickymasterWork | ochosi: confirmed. I've edited it to /usr and it's working as expected | 17:20 |
| ochosi | bbl | 17:20 |
| lderan | slickymasterWork, huzzah for it working as expected | 17:21 |
| brainwash | how did you try to launch it? via app menu? | 17:22 |
| slickymasterWork | lderan: the font color adverting to restart the session when you change the settings it's practicably unreadable. It's to light | 17:23 |
| slickymasterWork | brainwash: via settings manager | 17:23 |
| brainwash | mmh, so the binary path is hardcoded? | 17:24 |
| brainwash | inside the .desktop file I mean | 17:25 |
| ali1234 | xfce4-settings won't build on trusty | 17:26 |
| GridCube | how would i test this patch? http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/commit/?id=05adaa59dbedd89b3e0ae6001ff367572c1be7d2 | 17:29 |
| GridCube | what i have to do? (installing the guest addintions did show some results http://goput.it/b71i.png ) | 17:30 |
| GridCube | but the non-active wallpapers are invisible until you clic on them | 17:30 |
| GridCube | also i don't see the community wallpapers, are they to be installed separadetly? | 17:30 |
| lderan | slickymasterWork, that bit appears fine for me, might be a theme issue. We're making a change to one of the sliders so will take a look at that :) | 17:31 |
| slickymasterWork | lderan: this is with Greybird and elementary Xfce darker | 17:33 |
| GridCube | ok, im want to answer in the lp bug report but i do not know how to apply the patch :/ | 17:35 |
| lderan | thanks | 17:35 |
| ochosi | weird, so ppl are experiencing random problems with infobar-theming in greybird | 18:24 |
| ochosi | also read that wrt the greeter | 18:24 |
| ochosi | (if you enter a wrong password, an infobar, that should be red, pops up) | 18:24 |
| ochosi | sucky part is i can't reproduce it | 18:25 |
| GridCube | ochosi, let me see | 18:27 |
| GridCube | ochosi, http://goput.it/z4zk.png | 18:28 |
| ali1234 | hah, i see the problem | 18:38 |
| ali1234 | (with display settings) | 18:38 |
| ochosi | i'll be 15mins late for the meeting... | 18:50 |
| ali1234 | mr_pouit: you broke the monitor settings :P | 18:52 |
| ali1234 | (4 years ago) | 18:55 |
| ali1234 | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10717 | 19:08 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10717 in Display Settings "Display settings mixes up monitor EDID names" [Normal,New] | 19:08 |
| Noskcaj | o/ | 19:09 |
| ochosi | so what's with the meeting now? | 19:21 |
| dockelley | Was it scheduled to start 20 minutes ago, or did I get the time wrong? | 19:22 |
| ochosi | yup, it ws | 19:22 |
| ochosi | was | 19:22 |
| ochosi | who's around? just to see whether it makes sense to have one | 19:22 |
| jjfrv8-work | o/ | 19:22 |
| Noskcaj | o/ | 19:23 |
| Noskcaj | knome? | 19:23 |
| ochosi | (if enough ppl are around, i can chair, but i need a few minutes to read up on the bot commands and the agenda...) | 19:23 |
| elfy | !team | meeting | 19:23 |
| ubottu | meeting: bluesabre, elfy, GridCube, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, mr_pouit, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 | 19:23 |
| elfy | I'm about | 19:23 |
| slickymaster | o/ | 19:24 |
| slickymaster | did everyone forgot the meeting? | 19:24 |
| ochosi | maybe it wasn't added to the calendar or not announced vocally enough... | 19:25 |
| elfy | no idea how to add it to the calendar | 19:26 |
| slickymaster | I think Unit193 did it | 19:26 |
| ochosi | not sure how it is with you guys, but we can also wait a little longer to see whether more people come around | 19:27 |
| elfy | nothing to stop us | 19:28 |
| elfy | I'm cool with that ochosi | 19:28 |
| jjfrv8-work | me too | 19:28 |
| dockelley | no worries | 19:28 |
| ochosi | ok, let's check back in 30mins? | 19:28 |
| elfy | okey doke | 19:29 |
| dockelley | while we're waiting, is Beta1 going to drop today? | 19:29 |
| elfy | slickymaster: someone did - it's on the calendaty | 19:29 |
| slickymaster | I'll start on dinner prep in the meanwhile | 19:29 |
| elfy | sigh | 19:29 |
| elfy | calendar | 19:29 |
| elfy | dockelley: will be released soon | 19:29 |
| dockelley | :-) | 19:29 |
| slickymaster | I could bet that was Unit193 who did it elfy | 19:30 |
| elfy | yea :) | 19:30 |
| elfy | dockelley: you can get it if you want anyway - just grab it from the iso tracker | 19:30 |
| dockelley | thanks | 19:30 |
| elfy | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/312/builds | 19:31 |
| ochosi | ali1234: in your bugreport "all unconnected outputs" means monitors that arent attached with a cable to the computer but were connected in the past? | 19:31 |
| ali1234 | no, it means all outputs regardless of whether they've ever been connected or not | 19:31 |
| ali1234 | it only knows the current state | 19:32 |
| ochosi | outputs == connectors? (hdmi, dvi, vga, etc) | 19:32 |
| ali1234 | yes | 19:32 |
| ochosi | ah ok | 19:32 |
| ali1234 | xrandr deals with connectors and it uses the edid to get the monitor name | 19:32 |
| ochosi | but doesn't that mean ppl could try to activate an output where there's no cable? | 19:32 |
| ali1234 | yes it does | 19:32 |
| ali1234 | i am not familiar enough with the code to provide a real fix | 19:32 |
| ali1234 | not yet anyway | 19:33 |
| ochosi | i'd consider that a bit of a backdraww | 19:33 |
| ochosi | mkay | 19:33 |
| ochosi | well, you've pinpointed the problem nicely | 19:33 |
| ochosi | it's been a longer while that i've had a look at the display code | 19:35 |
| ochosi | bluesabre also worked on it | 19:35 |
| slickymaster | afk | 19:44 |
| schproodle | QATracker: Transmission in Xubuntu Desktop for Trusty Daily. How do I submit a bug report for Transmission -- link 'File a bug' giveThis product doesn't have detailed bug reporting instructions yet.'s 'show | 19:52 |
| elfy | ubuntu-bug | 19:52 |
| elfy | ubuntu-bug packagename | 19:53 |
| micahg | did someone say meeting? | 19:54 |
| ochosi | elfy: do you still consistently get the problem with the unreadable infobar in the greeter (when entering a wrong password)? | 19:54 |
| ochosi | hey micahg | 19:54 |
| micahg | hi ochosi | 19:55 |
| elfy | ochosi: funnily enough I looked a short while ago - still hardly readable | 19:55 |
| elfy | hi micahg | 19:55 |
| ochosi | elfy: hmmm :/ can't reproduce it though | 19:55 |
| ochosi | micahg: we decided to wait a bit since there was only 5 of us around at the actual meeting time | 19:56 |
| ochosi | micahg: btw, may i poke you to merge the remaining requests to the seed and upload it? | 19:56 |
| Noskcaj | micahg, what should i be working on in preparation for next time i apply for MOTU? | 19:56 |
| ochosi | micahg: there are also two -default-settings merge-requests that need merging.. | 19:56 |
| micahg | ochosi: sure, but most likely slammed until Monday | 19:59 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: I'd suggest trying to be more aware of the impact of your uploads as well as being able to test build uploads more effectively | 20:00 |
| micahg | ochosi: ok, I've seen quite a few things come into my mailbox | 20:00 |
| micahg | I'll see if I can squeeze anything in | 20:01 |
| micahg | but that probably won't be until the weekend | 20:01 |
| ochosi | micahg: okeydokey, well the changes are quite easy to review, if you can at least merge them we can look for sponsors | 20:01 |
| schproodle | elfy, got it. Bug #1285843 Thanks. | 20:01 |
| ubottu | bug 1285843 in transmission (Ubuntu) "Queue selections do not move torrents" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1285843 | 20:01 |
| elfy | guess we should call the whole thing off then | 20:04 |
| ochosi | :/ | 20:05 |
| ochosi | yeah, seems like it | 20:05 |
| ochosi | i'll be around a while longer, taking a break now | 20:05 |
| ochosi | so in case ppl wanna do a spontaneous meeting in another hour, that's still possible for me | 20:05 |
| elfy | nothing to stop us doing it - but it seems a bit pointless if we can't do more than chat - we can do that without meetingbot :) | 20:06 |
| Noskcaj | micahg, I've test built everything for about two months now, and my internet might be improving soon, so i'd be able to do more/bigger merges | 20:06 |
| ali1234 | who's on the agenda? | 20:06 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: there were some comments about missing dependencies once uploads happened, if you've addressed that, that's great | 20:07 |
| ochosi | ali1234: there's a few things carried forward from last time | 20:07 |
| * slickymaster is going to take advantage from the fact that the meeting is postponed and is going to finish making dinner | 20:08 | |
| ochosi | ali1234: what's the status of the gtk3 indicators stack? | 20:08 |
| slickymaster | awf | 20:08 |
| ali1234 | well for my part: the gtk3 stuff is progressing on unity side, there are some branches here from ted: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted | 20:08 |
| ali1234 | looks like he added the stuff for all the other sessions as we discussed with him the other day | 20:08 |
| Noskcaj | micahg, Yep. I've addressed that, although only recently i realized i should be checking syncs for added depends that are non-main | 20:08 |
| ali1234 | so we're now waiting for those to be merged | 20:09 |
| ochosi | cool, that's good news | 20:09 |
| ali1234 | i think we need to make some changes in the indicator plugin to make it run the upstart event | 20:09 |
| ochosi | hmm, again? | 20:09 |
| ali1234 | yes, unfortunately, but it's a 1 liner | 20:09 |
| ochosi | that blows a bit | 20:09 |
| ochosi | ah ok | 20:10 |
| ochosi | that could even go in as a patch, without andrzejr doing a new release | 20:10 |
| * elfy is wandering off into the dark for a bit | 20:10 | |
| ali1234 | yes, and that may be more appropriate depending on what other distros want (if they even use it) | 20:10 |
| ochosi | yeah, i mean the whole plugin is a bit ubuntu-centric anyway... | 20:10 |
| ochosi | although i've read of arch users | 20:10 |
| ali1234 | i actually added it once already but i don't think i saved the patch | 20:10 |
| ali1234 | it's easy anyway | 20:10 |
| ochosi | well you could stash the patch in a bugreport already somewhere and link it to the features blueprint | 20:11 |
| ochosi | that way it can also be applied if you wouldn't be here for one reason or another | 20:11 |
| ali1234 | ok, i'll do that | 20:11 |
| ochosi | thanks! | 20:11 |
| ali1234 | same patch might be needed in the greeter | 20:12 |
| ochosi | fwiw, i took a very close look at Orion, and it displaces the 16px icons on buttons by 1px, so it's actually centered there | 20:12 |
| ali1234 | heh | 20:12 |
| ochosi | hmm, is it for sure that we'll need that patch in the greeter? | 20:12 |
| ochosi | cause we're planning a bugfix release tonight | 20:12 |
| ali1234 | i'm not sure | 20:12 |
| ochosi | so it'd be pretty good timing | 20:12 |
| ochosi | ok | 20:12 |
| ochosi | then i guess we'll wait | 20:12 |
| ali1234 | depends how you currently run the indicators | 20:12 |
| ochosi | same as unity greeter | 20:13 |
| ali1234 | hmm | 20:13 |
| ali1234 | well, how is that? | 20:13 |
| ali1234 | unity-greeter was patched | 20:13 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: check-mir is a nice script for that | 20:14 |
| ochosi | ali1234: this is the init: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lightdm-gtk-greeter-team/lightdm-gtk-greeter/trunk/view/head:/src/lightdm-gtk-greeter.c#L368 | 20:14 |
| Noskcaj | oh,cool. Didn't know about that script | 20:14 |
| micahg | I have a question, I dropped the ball on this, but I was wondering if the gtk3 indicator stuff made it in | 20:14 |
| ochosi | ali1234: when was unity-greeter patched? | 20:14 |
| ochosi | micahg: yup, it's all in | 20:14 |
| micahg | great news | 20:14 |
| ali1234 | ochosi: ok, so shell init and send an event? yes that's the correct way | 20:14 |
| micahg | thanks | 20:14 |
| knome | emmmh, yeah | 20:15 |
| knome | something distracted me, and couldn't be around | 20:15 |
| knome | did you get anything discussed? | 20:15 |
| ali1234 | ochosi: this is the unity-greeter patch, it's identical: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/unity-greeter/upstart-indicators/+merge/192936 | 20:15 |
| ochosi | micahg: yup, we also got upstream releases of the panel and the indicator-plugin | 20:15 |
| ochosi | ali1234: yup, our greeter indicator-loading was refreshed quite recently, that's why i wanted to know. it works nicely currently | 20:15 |
| ali1234 | ochosi: same thing needs to go into the plugin too, so we use upstart instead of xdg-autostart | 20:16 |
| ochosi | ok, i see | 20:16 |
| ali1234 | if it hasn't already gone in that is | 20:16 |
| ochosi | haven't checked the plugin in a while | 20:16 |
| ochosi | knome: we just talked a bit about the gtk3 indicator status | 20:17 |
| ochosi | (that was one of the carried-forward items on the meeting agenda) | 20:18 |
| ochosi | for those of you who want to test the settings dialog for lightdm-gtk-greeter, there are packages for trusty here: https://launchpad.net/~kalgasnik/+archive/ppa | 20:19 |
| ochosi | we'll hopefully be able to set up a proper PPA soon | 20:19 |
| knome | okay | 20:20 |
| ochosi | fwiw, this is the project: https://launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings | 20:20 |
| ali1234 | elfy: i noticed my keyboard layout went funny today | 20:29 |
| elfy | oh good | 20:29 |
| ali1234 | it was set to UK + extended winkeys which means my backquote key was acting strange | 20:29 |
| elfy | mmm - mine was set to US | 20:29 |
| elfy | lderan saw the same thing | 20:30 |
| ali1234 | in the settings there is layout and then sub-variant | 20:30 |
| ali1234 | there's no "default" variant so i had to select the top level layout which is kind of weird | 20:30 |
| ali1234 | i dunno if this is related | 20:30 |
| ali1234 | i might have just made a mistake while installing | 20:31 |
| elfy | yea - I pick the top level - no idea if it's related | 20:31 |
| ali1234 | i haven't tried the installer recently | 20:31 |
| tryxchat | qatracker xchat test message | 20:37 |
| elfy | thanks tryxchat - someone reads my mails then :) | 20:38 |
| === tryxchat is now known as wickscherrycoke | ||
| wickscherrycoke | the | 20:39 |
| elfy | will be back if they follow it properly :p | 20:41 |
| elfy | :) | 20:41 |
| a5m0 | dangit, mpv requires ndividia restricted? but i want to keep nouveau :( | 20:55 |
| schproodle | elfy, seems you met my friend tryxchat -- don't know about mails though :) | 21:08 |
| ochosi | hm, the whole kb layout thing is odd | 21:20 |
| ochosi | there is a patch for the greeter to add kb-layout support, but we're past feature-freeze now... | 21:20 |
| elfy | ochosi: had a look at the lightdm settings thing - will look properly tomorrow | 21:22 |
| ochosi | ok cool | 21:22 |
| ochosi | thanks elfy | 21:22 |
| elfy | well - I have really had enough of today - night all | 21:22 |
| elfy | welcome ochosi :) | 21:22 |
| schproodle | elfy, tks | 21:23 |
| ochosi | ali1234: what bothers me more than the 1px offset in the gtk2 buttons is the cut bottom part of buttons in gtk3 :/ | 21:25 |
| ochosi | i've dug around enough to produce a workaround, but it's fugly | 21:26 |
| pleia2 | sorry I missed the meeting :( thought I'd make it, but my cold disagreed | 21:27 |
| ochosi | actually there wasn't one | 21:27 |
| ochosi | that is, you weren't the only one missing it ;) | 21:28 |
| pleia2 | so I see :) | 21:28 |
| Unit193 | slickymaster: If you'd have placed a bet, you'd be a richer man. :P | 21:46 |
| ochosi | knome: should we re-schedule the missed meeting for tomorrow? | 21:46 |
| knome | that's not better for me | 21:47 |
| ochosi | different time? | 21:47 |
| knome | different time works, but is there something that needs to be done/discussed before next thursday? | 21:48 |
| ochosi | not sure, there are a few items on the agenda | 21:48 |
| ochosi | we could theoretically resolve some of them without a meeting as well i guess | 21:48 |
| knome | sure | 21:49 |
| knome | i'd imagine somewhat many people are around now | 21:49 |
| slickymaster | Unit193: I knew it was a safe bet | 21:49 |
| Unit193 | slickymaster: I did ping you with the link afterall. :P | 21:50 |
| slickymaster | did you get to saw revision 149 of my MP? | 21:50 |
| ochosi | knome: i'm not against doing an impromptu one now if you want ;) | 21:50 |
| schproodle | qatracker: Light-locker in Xubuntu Desktop for Trusty Daily -- xscreensaver seems to lock screen. Whatis/whereis light-locker | 21:50 |
| ochosi | schproodle: you have to purge xscreensaver | 21:52 |
| knome | ochosi, well start a discussion... ;) | 21:52 |
| schproodle | ok | 21:52 |
| slickymaster | Unit193: did you get to saw revision 149 of my MP? | 21:54 |
| schproodle | ochosi, got it, thanks | 21:54 |
| Unit193 | slickymaster: Not yet, will soon. | 21:58 |
| ochosi | anyone else here who can confirm this visual bugin the greeter? http://goput.it/z4zk.png | 21:59 |
| ochosi | asking cause i can't reproduce it but i have a patch that needs testing... | 21:59 |
| ochosi | (explanation: enter wrong password in the 14.04 greeter, red(!) infobar pops up telling you you entered a wrong password) | 22:00 |
| ochosi | (in this screenshot it's obviously white, which is bad and unintended) | 22:00 |
| schproodle | howto do a Ctrl+Alt+F7 in vm Virtualbox to test light-locker | 22:01 |
| ochosi | schproodle: you need to use the virtual-box modifier key | 22:01 |
| ochosi | (i think by default right ctrl) | 22:02 |
| schproodle | ok I will try that one | 22:02 |
| ochosi | so right-ctrl + f7 | 22:03 |
| ochosi | (the modifier key is displayed in the right bottom corner of the virtualbox window/statusbar) | 22:03 |
| schproodle | right-ctrl is a sub for ctrl+alt ?? | 22:09 |
| ochosi | in the virtualbox-window, yes | 22:10 |
| schproodle | right-ctrl + f7 did not seem to do anything eh | 22:10 |
| ochosi | well i have no clue what modifier-key you use | 22:10 |
| schproodle | ochosi, OK thanks :) | 22:11 |
| brainwash | ochosi: yes, with the greybird version installed by the shimmer-themes package | 22:15 |
| brainwash | wait a minute.. I already told you that some days ago :) | 22:16 |
| ochosi | brainwash: great! | 22:16 |
| ochosi | well, i was asking whether anyone was *around* with that bug :) | 22:16 |
| ochosi | anyhoo, i can pastebin the diff in a few secs | 22:16 |
| brainwash | I fixed it by adding some code from git8master | 22:16 |
| brainwash | git/master | 22:17 |
| brainwash | ok | 22:17 |
| brainwash | It was this block which I've copied from upstream https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/blob/master/gtk-3.0/gtk-widgets.css#L107 | 22:18 |
| brainwash | no clue why it was broken in the first place and why this change magically fixed it | 22:19 |
| ochosi | wait, last time you said that you already had the stuff from that commit local | 22:19 |
| brainwash | uhm, I copied the linked block over to the greybird theme provided by the shimmer-themes package (trusty) | 22:20 |
| ochosi | ah ok | 22:21 |
| ochosi | still, weird that that worked | 22:21 |
| brainwash | usually I use the git version, so I've never noticed this issue | 22:21 |
| ochosi | and light-locker-settings also works for you (the infobar)? | 22:22 |
| brainwash | I did not test it yet | 22:22 |
| brainwash | so where is your pastebin diff? :) | 22:23 |
| ochosi | well if the git-master version fixes things, then there's no need for additional changes | 22:24 |
| ochosi | (pastebin would've been here, but it's useless now i guess: http://dpaste.com/1667584/ ) | 22:24 |
| ochosi | i'll just ask elfy to update to greybird from git and test that again tomorrow | 22:24 |
| ochosi | if he confirms it's fixed, i can cross that one off my list | 22:25 |
| brainwash | the strange thing is that the upstream commit has been added some days ago, but the infobar looked fine before that also (git/master) | 22:26 |
| ochosi | yeah, that's why i wanted to try this patch | 22:27 |
| ochosi | but anyway, i'll have to wait for elfy or Gridcube then | 22:27 |
| ochosi | brainwash: i'm wondering why that gtk3 cut buttons is bugging you less than me... | 22:32 |
| brainwash | ochosi: bigger fonts is the secret :) this way you never see cut buttons | 22:34 |
| ochosi | that's a very fugly workaround | 22:34 |
| brainwash | if you don't see it, it won't bug you :P | 22:34 |
| ochosi | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-02-27-233419.php | 22:34 |
| ochosi | try to do this with bigger fonts ^ | 22:34 |
| ochosi | still ugly | 22:34 |
| ochosi | also, i'd have to bump droid sans to 11(!) for the bug to disappear | 22:35 |
| brainwash | the gnome guys will fix it soon, they'll simply remove the buttons and call it an improvement | 22:35 |
| ochosi | i'm afraid they won't fix it because it doesn't affect them | 22:36 |
| brainwash | did they add some magic to their default theme? | 22:36 |
| ochosi | no idea, the adwaita engine seems to work around that | 22:36 |
| ochosi | also, using svg/png assets for the buttons also fixes it | 22:37 |
| ochosi | even unico doesn't expose the bug | 22:37 |
| ochosi | (which is why ubuntu folks aren't seeing it) | 22:37 |
| brainwash | :( | 22:37 |
| brainwash | silly_cut_buttons | 22:38 |
| ochosi | yeah, that's a fugly workaround | 22:39 |
| ochosi | i'm working on a better one right now | 22:39 |
| ochosi | huhu | 22:41 |
| ochosi | bumping only the button-font looks fun: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-02-27-234144.php | 22:41 |
| ochosi | (and works) | 22:42 |
| schproodle | can't find light-locker-setting for testing | 22:49 |
| ochosi | it's still only available from a PPA: https://launchpad.net/~light-locker-settings-team/+archive/stable | 22:49 |
| ochosi | stuck in upload-queue | 22:50 |
| schproodle | ochosi, should I test with the ppa? | 22:51 |
| ochosi | schproodle: yes, please | 22:51 |
| schproodle | oh, I see elfy's mail-archive message | 22:52 |
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