=== mndo_ is now known as mndo === jje is now known as Guest27693 === dcmorton_ is now known as dcmorton === alex_mayorga_ is now known as alex_mayorga === cmiller is now known as CardinalFang === CardinalFang is now known as qengho [01:18] Just upgraded to Trusty, Shift+Ctrl+T, the keyboard shortcut for new tab in gnome-terminal and terminator doesn't seem to work [01:19] Does anyone know if there's some element of the desktop environment which would be intercepting that? [01:23] is it assigned in unity control center keyboard shortcuts [01:24] Unity control center? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [01:28] maxb, If you click on the desktop, does it still not work. [01:29] it's ctrl-alt-t [01:29] No, I don't want to launch a new terminal window, I want to create a new tab within an existing one [01:30] ah, never used that command not familiar [01:30] my mistake === cmiller_ is now known as CardinalFang === CardinalFang is now known as qengho [01:34] How odd, it works just fine in a new user account. Perhaps it's time to have a clearout of dotfiles in my homedir === tlyu_ is now known as tlyu [01:39] Why isn't the update manager showing up daily? [01:40] Hello? [01:40] Nothing_Much, depends on how you have it set [01:40] Beldar: It's set up for daily! [01:40] I have updates and everything set to immediately too! [01:41] Nothing_Much, I believe it only shows on security issues otherwise you have to run it. [01:41] what? [01:41] dude it's just not giving me any notifications for updates [01:42] Nothing_Much, It has not exspect for security updates for awhile dude. [01:42] It's NOT just security updates [01:43] It's any upgrades dude [01:43] Nothing_Much, It has not prompted for any more than security since I think about 10.04 [01:43] Dude [01:43] Not just security [01:44] It's ANY upgrade [01:44] Like say [01:44] Uh [01:44] A new version of Gimp [01:44] Hypothetically speaking, a new gimp upgrade came out [01:44] welcome to ignore, you are far from any respectful communication [01:44] And my updates don't show up after a week- [01:44] I'm sorry for.. wait what? [01:44] Well pardon me for asking for help. :/ [01:45] Sheesh, so can anybody else explain to me why the software updater isn't showing up on a daily basis? [01:56] Can anybody explain to me why the software sources won't show up on a daily basis? In fact, it hasn't prompted me any updates for months. [02:18] Nothing_Much: You should expect bugs in a development version of Ubuntu, and if you encounter a bug the first thing you should do is confirm that you're running the most up to date packages, as fixes are made every day. [02:19] That makes sense.. [02:19] Apologies [03:29] hi, I heard unity 8 is in trusty and is super fast. is that faster than lxde? any opinions? thanks. [03:38] by googling, It seems unity 7 will be in trusty be default. anyway, I think I will install lubuntu then. unity 7 is too slow. [03:46] sgo11, From the web it looks to a doable setup, but it puts you into PPA's [03:52] Beldar, :) with trusty, I think I don't need to add PPA. but I have to compile and build unity8 from source. that is ugly. I don't want to do that. maybe I should continue to use lxde for now. :) thanks. [04:00] no prob, best of luck. ;) === ThomasB is now known as Jcink === Jcink is now known as ThomasB [04:10] Beldar, just saw the reply. thanks. ^_^ === cmiller_ is now known as CardinalFang === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje === popey_ is now known as popey [08:56] hi, my laptop has two graphic cards. one is built-in intel and another one is nvidia graphic card. "Additional Drivers" can not find any drivers for me. what should I do in this case? nvidia-prime? thanks. [09:23] hi, I installed daily iso build lubuntu. nothing really can be launched. Everything got segmentation fault. google-chrome, firefox, obconf etc... Do anyone have any ideas? thanks. [09:27] sgo11: @first question [09:27] if you install: nvidia-331 it will install alsi prime [09:27] *also [09:28] works fine for me @ my Dell [09:29] also in 30 minutes Metro Last Light will finish downloading and ill test it :) [09:29] soee, thanks a lot. I will try that. it seems my second problem is more serious. before running "apt-get upgrade", all got segfault. but if I click "relaunch" button in popup. firefox and google-chrome can be launched successfully. The first launch is always segfault. After "apt-get upgrade", nothing can be launched. always segfault. [09:32] soee, @firstquestion, do I need to install linux-header manually? when I try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331", the linux-header is not in the list. thanks. [09:33] sorry, I tried dpkg -l, the header is installed by default. [09:34] hopefully, the nvidia driver can fix the all programs segfault problem. [09:41] sgo11: i dont have such problems with segfaults [09:41] also im running kubuntu here [09:41] firefox works super :) [09:41] and there was finally update to 28 beta [09:50] I am using lubuntu. download and install the latest iso today. no idea what's going on. I am doing "apt-get dist-upgrade" now. it seems there is a new kernel 3.13.0-13 instead of -12. weird problems. [09:51] btw, installing nvidia driver does not solve segfault problems to firefox and google-chrome. [09:52] apport failed to report bugs and complaining my packages are obsolete. that's why I am doing dist-upgrade. [09:52] segfault errors just don't make any sense to me. the first time in ubuntu can not even run a browser. [09:53] i386 or amd64? [09:53] btw, after segfault, chrome gave a popup window and then click "relaunch" can launch chrome successfully. [09:53] Kamilion, amd64. [09:54] i'm running a distupgrade from a fresh amd64 lubuntu in vmware right now [09:55] i too am seeing firefox coredump [09:55] mine is fresh too and doing the same distupgrade. hopefully, problem can get fixed. [09:55] Kamilion, cool. I am not alone anymore. [09:56] amd 1100t, 16GB, vmware 10, amd 5670 card [09:57] mine is not vmware. I am using a laptop. nvidia driver and intel i3. [10:01] Kamilion, completed the dist-upgrade. same segfault to all browsers. [10:01] chromium runs for me [10:02] Kamilion, I am using chrome. let me try to install chromium. [10:02] youtube works [10:10] Kamilion, chromium-browser does work. are there any existing bugs for this segfault issue? [10:10] dunno, new here too. [10:12] are there ubuntu developers? firefox and google-chrome failed to run in latest trusty release. all got segfault. [10:12] sorry, I mean lubuntu trusty. [10:13] The lubuntu desktop background reminds me of a crt with poorly sheilded speakers [11:44] 'Morning folks [14:07] hi, in latest lubuntu build, firefox and google-chrome can not be run with segmentation fault. chromium-browser can be run. any ideas? thanks. [14:10] sgo11: have you tried updating? [14:10] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [14:13] Wnt, I did that. the same error. === CardinalFang is now known as qengho [15:36] there is no .gnome2 and .gnome2_private in lubuntu. is this normal? [15:37] anyway, i don't think that is the cause of segfault to many programs. [15:41] hey, im trying to upgrade to 14.04 from 13.10 (using sudo upgrade-manager -d) and i am getting this error 'could not calculate upgrade' - is there a way to overcome this? [15:45] tyring to upgrade using 14.04 daily build iso's would do any difference? [15:48] hm.. sudo google-chrome and sudo firefox, both works fine. permission problems? global env variable problems? [15:52] meomic: I updated (or at least tried updating) my old ubuntu using the live cd. I chose the upgrade option after selecting install ubuntu from the live cd environment [15:54] after the upgrade was complete I rebooted and my grub was broken, it gave an error "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found." [15:54] so I fixed that by chrooting to my installatin from the live environment, updating all packages and re-installing grub in the chroot [15:55] oke, im gonna give it a shot [15:55] after that I was able to boot to the upgraded ubuntu, but there was something wrong with my package dependecies, e.g. could not install libc6:i386 [15:56] so to get a fully working system, I just wiped the old installation and restored the files I need from a backup I made before starting the upgrade process [15:57] can anyone help please? latest lubuntu trusty. both firefox and google-chrome will not run with segfault. but sudo them will run. any ideas? thanks. [15:57] I really recommend doing a backup of your lis of currently installed packeges, home directory and etc directory [15:57] heh, yea im gonna do backups also, but still ive been on 13.10 beta and had no problem during upgrade from 13.04 now i wanna go to 14.04 because next thing with support for my notebook is fixed there [15:58] thats why i want to go pre-released ubuntu [15:59] the upgrade path instead of full re-install would have been really nice if it would just have worked :) [17:09] hi [17:10] what are the best features of ubuntu 14.04? [17:14] whats the best feature of 14.04? [17:15] No big changes, it will be a LTS https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes [17:16] ok......can i add my facebook photos to any of my photo manager in ubuntu??m in new in ubuntu....and i want to learn everything...... [17:17] standard shotwell can upload to facebook and more [17:17] but there are other programs too, i don't know as i do not want facebook [17:18] ok...can i install adobe dreamweaver on ubuntu? [17:18] No. [17:18] maybe in the feature, when wine can [17:18] so any replacement ? [17:20] Not that i know off, flash has no future, with html5 [17:22] ok.......if i want to develop apps for ubuntu.....so whats the best language to do it??python??? [17:22] can i use html? [17:26] whatever you like [17:26] :/ [17:27] There is no single best, as far as i understand Linux in general [17:27] agreed [17:27] You have the freedom to choose and the tools are free. [17:29] ok than you.......can u plz suggest me some cool things to customize my ubuntu 13.10 [17:29] err 13.10 is supported in the other channel === gac is now known as Guest8565 === Guest8565 is now known as gac === gac is now known as Guest13319 [18:44] just installed ubuntu 14.04 on HP Folio Elitebook. According to screen texts the installation was successful. When I reboot, I get the text that tells I should install operating system (although I thought I just installed it already). Any tips what might go wrong? [18:44] antagomir: Is this a BIOS based or UEFI based machine? [18:45] BIOS i think [18:46] yash069 suggested i may not have installed grub since i did not change boot order [18:46] could that be the issue and how to change [18:47] antagomir: No, that doesn't make sense. [18:47] ok [18:48] antagomir: It looks like that machine likely does use UEFI. [18:48] the installation went very smoothly until the happy ending, but then at reboot I seem to have no OS [18:49] ok, how I can check if it is BIOS or UEFI. [18:49] antagomir: Please boot from the Ubuntu USB again, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces. [18:51] ok, thanks. I only have this single laptop which is now in Try ubuntu mode, so this has to wait until tomorrow so that i have access to another computer [18:52] but i can now give a try, just not able to copypaste [18:52] or pastebin [19:05] Jordan_U: i did not find option for boot info script when booting from my USB-DVD device but I have this text briefly blinking on the screen when I boot: Could not open "EFI/BOOT/fallback.efi": 14 [19:08] now reading followups on this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/402256/boot-with-ubuntu-livecd-gives-an-error-message-before-proceeding-to-a-grub-style [19:12] !bootinfo | antagomir [19:12] antagomir: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at). [19:13] antagomir: Sorry, I meant to send that factoid earlier. [19:13] it seems i can choose to use EFI mode or not since i wont have any other OSs installed. Any tips which one I should go for: EFI or not [19:14] antagomir: Try getting UEFI mode to work first. [19:14] OK, any brief motivation why that option [19:14] tnx for bootinfo, I will have a loook [19:16] this bootinfo seems to require I run it from my Ubuntu hard drive installation. But I never get there so I cant really run it [19:16] antagomir: It will run fine from a LiveDVD/USB. [19:20] ok [19:24] Jordan_U ok pastebin here http://pastebin.com/KtSqwUZG [19:27] now wondering if I should try Boot-Repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair === Guest13319 is now known as gac === gac is now known as Guest18006 [19:36] antagomir: Could you also please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr"? [19:40] antagomir: It seems like your firmware may be configured to boot external media via UEFI and internal via BIOS for some reason. [19:41] sure here we go http://pastebin.com/GpWEHnPm [19:41] i just started to come to the same conclusion after reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Installing_Ubuntu_in_EFI_mode [19:42] i can soon reboot and try to fix the bios settings (or are they called efi settings then) [19:42] i probably need to reinstall ubuntu after that, or might it work if i just change booting to EFI as i already isntalled the system [19:46] well i will reboot now and see how to change system settings [19:47] I managed to set up UEFI and even secureboot. dual-booting with secureboot enabled didn't work though [19:47] I could start ubuntu but not windows 8.1 [19:48] ok [20:01] Jordan_U im back [20:01] this time from my installed 14.04 so there is progress [20:01] :) [20:01] antagomir: What allowed you to boot it [20:01] this time i got here from bios menu F9 (bios settings) by manually selecting the EFI [20:02] but was not yet able to save settings in F10 (system settings) such that this would happen automatically [20:03] there i seem to have EFI Hybrid on: i also tried EFI Native but that does not work either [20:04] now just wondering where to make changes so that the startup knows to use this EFI file that I am able to select manually through F9 settings [20:05] antagomir: Please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr". [20:05] antagomir, dual boot? [20:08] Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/4CBXJT5Y [20:08] BluesKaj: no, i only have this one system [20:09] antagomir, ok , the I suggest you run in legacy mode [20:09] then [20:09] antagomir: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64 [20:10] antagomir: Then please run "sudo efibootmgr" again and pastebin the output of both. [20:11] the first one: http://pastebin.com/9CMsBxVr [20:12] the efibootmgr http://pastebin.com/gWw2bgLd [20:12] seems promising, you think it might work now [20:13] antagomir: I expect it will. [20:13] Blueskaj hmm ok, but i already installed the system from EFI USB device [20:13] so i try this out first [20:15] ok i reboot now and try it out [20:17] no, didnt solve the problem yet [20:18] Blueskaj so you suggest using legacy mode and reinstalling with BIOS (instead of EFI) [20:18] i still hope i could find a way to save this EFI setting the OS apparently seems to work smoothly [20:18] once i get here [20:20] antagomir, you should still be able to boot in legacy mode afaik, as long as you install grub from the media =, in lgacy mode of course [20:21] correction: install grub with live media in legacy mode [20:21] antagomir,^ [20:21] hmm [20:22] you mean i could avoid reinstalling all [20:22] that's what i did on this new laptop, of course I wiped the drive first [20:22] BluesKaj, Did you have to change the partition table, or clean out gpt remnants? [20:23] Beldar, well wiping the drive will do that :) [20:23] BluesKaj, Not the table. [20:23] depends on how you wipe though [20:23] then creating a new partition table [20:23] my drive has been wiped during the installation of this new system [20:23] should that be sufficient [20:24] BluesKaj, Cool, I'm not sure the user is aware of tables is all. ;) [20:24] yes antagomir, it should be [20:24] how to install grub with live media in legacy mode [20:24] antagomir, Just erasing the partitions does not change the partition table. [20:24] do you mean ubuntu live DVD by this live media [20:25] Beldar also partition table was recreated during installation [20:25] Anyone have any specific changes required to run 14.04 in Virtualbox? I've tried 3 times and it's freezing up with everything I try to do after the install & reboot [20:25] antagomir, I don't think so you have to make a new one or wipe the mbr [20:26] antagomir,gparted can make a new table. [20:26] on live cd or usb , open a terminal in ubuntu and run sudo grub-install /dev/sdX , X being the partition on which ubuntu is installed, usually sda [20:26] do i need to make a new table_ [20:26] you want a msdos for legacy [20:27] why would i [20:27] gpt is a uefi msdos is a mbr [20:27] sorry to interrupt. ;) [20:28] Blueskaj: is it necessary to do that with live cd rather than from my current hard disk installation [20:28] antagomir, you'll lose your install if you create a new table , but it's worth doing then you're rid of theat gpt etc [20:28] hm [20:29] antagomir, not sure you can try installing grub and see on the the present install [20:29] see what happens [20:29] but when i reinstall then, i should choose custom partitioning and keep the table that i create according to your suggestions [20:29] i am a bit lost [20:30] YOu have to chroot from a live cd to load the mbr [20:30] antagomir, if you decide to do a reinstall then create a new table from gparted as was suggested [20:30] I don't think that works with a gpt table, but I have not had to do it. [20:31] too many cooks , that's all i have to offer anyway === Guest18006 is now known as gac === gac is now known as Guest37308 [20:34] antagomir, Is this a fresh install? [20:34] hmm. i would not choose reinstall if there is another way [20:34] BeldarÃ yes this is a fresh install [20:34] antagomir, The other way is setting up the efi boot correctly. [20:35] Ãhow [20:35] I'm not up on that though [20:35] never used uefi at this point [20:35] i tried from F10 menu without success [20:35] there are options EFI Native, EFI Hybrid and Legacy [20:35] antagomir, did you choose the whole disk/partition option when installing? [20:36] ys [20:36] yes [20:36] antagomir, You easiest probably is setting the legacy boot, boot the cd, open gparted and change the table to msdos and install to the whole disk, no manula needed. [20:36] manual* [20:37] anyway best of luck I will stay quiet [20:37] ok tnx [20:38] does it matter that my optical device (with USB) is set up with EFI, if I set the hard disk to legacy mode [20:38] then you should be able to boot with EFI directly...right Beldar ? [20:38] if i understand correctly, if i set the boot option to legacy mode then it does not use EFI? [20:39] BluesKaj, Yeah if it is done right, I am just not up on doing it. [20:39] Beldar, neither am I, since mucking about with UEFI wasn't working for me [20:40] antagomir, correct [20:40] antagomir: Please stop for a minute, as I'd personally like to know what's going on here. [20:40] ok thats ok fine Jordan_U [20:40] BluesKaj, I'm just waiting till I have a uefi setup to really get into understanding it. [20:40] antagomir: Do you mind booting your installed Ubuntu system via UEFI again and pastebining the output of "sudo efibootmgr" again? [20:41] i am here via UEFI now, the hard disk installation that i could access by choosing the EFI file via F9 menu [20:41] antagomir: Ok. Please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr". [20:42] here http://pastebin.com/eshrhQpW [20:42] Beldar, the UEFI tuts out there are conflicting, hence I just went with legacy , and the 6 windows partitions pi**ed me off , what waste and bloat [20:43] I had searched for a laptop with no OS , but there weren't any worth buying, there was no saving on the prices [20:44] BluesKaj, My W8.1 pro is a purchase err upgrade from W7 pro all student purchases, so I have it all on a older toshiba running msdos. I use word for grad papers is all. [20:44] antagomir: Please try running "sudo efibootmgr --bootorder 0002,0000,0001". [20:45] Beldar, right , one has to use what's necessary [20:46] Jordan_U doneÃ: http://pastebin.com/YdHzm4dM [20:47] antagomir: And this time I'm about 90% confidant that it will actually work :) [20:47] antagomir: Please try rebooting. [20:48] ok i will [20:52] no it didnt :) [20:54] antagomir: Very odd. "sudo efibootmgr" again. [20:55] ok: http://pastebin.com/ZPZhnS6R [20:55] antagomir: And "find /boot/efi/". [20:56] antagomir: Your firmware likes resetting its boot order apparently. [20:56] http://pastebin.com/BaXznLXT [20:56] i am choosing the /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi to get here [20:57] hmm ok [20:57] there should be a way to get around that [20:57] antagomir: sudo mkdir /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/ [20:58] ok done [21:00] antagomir: echo "We copied /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi to here because this firmware seems to have a bad case of boot order amnesia and this way the firmware will hopefully at least boot it as if it were a removable drive with no EFI entry." | sudo tee /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/Readme.txt [21:01] antagomir: sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/BOOTX64.EFI [21:01] ok [21:01] u think it could work now? [21:01] antagomir: I don't know what to think, but I hope it will :) [21:02] i will try [21:04] no.. === Smedles_ is now known as Smedles [21:05] antagomir: Any change in what happened at boot at all? [21:16] Is there a minimal install disc somewhere for 14.04? [21:16] like just a terminal and bare utilities [21:24] Jef91, haven't seen it on the torrentlist nor cdimage website [21:24] Jef91, closest is the daily core, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/current/ [21:24] antagomir: To make your current install also bootable via BIOS, first use Gparted to resize your EFI System Partition, making it just 1 MiB smaller, and then using that free MiB create an unformatted partition with the "flag" bios_grub. [21:24] I guess you would fallbak to server [21:26] Jordan_U i think there were now more options in the F9 menu [21:26] otherwise the same [21:26] is this a correct setup ? > sudo apt-get install --no-install-recomends ubuntu-desktop === elky_ is now known as elky [21:27] Jordan_U can i use gparted from within my current hard disk installation, or should I use the liveCD? [21:28] antagomir: OK. Well, let's make this think BIOS bootable then. Did you understand my GParted instructions? [21:28] s/think/thing/ [21:28] i think i did understand, just installing gparted [21:29] antagomir: You can use it within your current installation (though you'll have to unmount /boot/efi/). [21:30] Jordan_U ok so I run sudo umount /boot/efi first? [21:31] hey, guys! I'm wondering, Firefox is still going to be the default for trusty, right?/ [21:32] antagomir: Yes, or right click and unmount it from within GParted. Either way works. [21:33] Jordan_U so I resize my ext4 partition that has most disk space (and not the linux-swap partition)? [21:33] ok === Guest37308 is now known as gac [21:33] antagomir: No, the EFI System Parititon, sda1. [21:33] ah, the /boot/efi [21:33] ? === gac is now known as Guest42163 [21:34] antagomir: Yes, /dev/sda1 is mounted at /boot/efi/ because it is the EFI System Partition. [21:34] there i have 487MiB in total (5.62MiB used / 481.38 MiB unused) [21:34] i will downsize to 486 MiB in total? [21:34] antagomir: Yes. [21:35] ok done [21:36] antagomir: Did you create the new unformatted partition in the free space? [21:38] trying [21:38] does it matter what file system i choose for that partition [21:38] running kubuntu 14.04 all updates applied. On reboot I received a ERROR: malformed file... Press any key to continue. I did and kubuntu booted up seemingly fine. I am wondering which file this error was referring to? [21:39] antagomir: There should be an option like "unformatted". [21:39] hmm, where I can set the flag? [21:40] antagomir: It doesn't really matter, but actually choosing "unformatted" is conceptually more clear. [21:40] Hi, I'm trying to upgrade one of my systems to 14.04. Update Manager quits after a gpg signature error: [21:40] gpg: BAD signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key " [21:40] yes i found unformatted, tnx [21:40] Is this a known problem at the moment? [21:40] or is flag same as label? [21:40] !gpgerr | pwuertz [21:40] pwuertz: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com » [21:41] pwuertz: run: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 437D05B5 [21:41] pwuertz, This your only linux/ubuntu install? [21:41] then try the upgrade again. [21:41] IdleOne: Yes, I already ran that command [21:41] gpg: key 437D05B5: "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key " not changed [21:42] The upgrade process keeps failing [21:42] antagomir: Flag is not the same as label, I'm woking from my phone so I can't look at a GParted GUI right now. If you can't find it I can give you a terminal command to do it. [21:42] i cant find it [21:42] i have looking through all tabs and clicks [21:42] Beldar: No, I upgraded 2 other systems to 14.04 a few days ago [21:43] antagomir: Try right clicking. Is there a "manager flags" option in the right click menu? [21:43] pwuertz, Cool, my concern was upgrading to a development is all. [21:43] s/manager/manage/ [21:43] yes but its unactive [21:43] inactive [21:43] antagomir: Could you please post a screenshot? [21:44] !screenshot | antagomir [21:44] antagomir: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. [21:44] IdleOne: ok, sorry, something did change now.. I have no idea why because googling for that problem already gave me that solution and it didn't work :) [21:44] maybe it was another key [21:45] Beldar: I had a few packages blocking each during one upgrade process, the other one went fine [21:47] Jordan_U: screenshot http://postimg.org/image/r0i4hkran/ [21:48] pwuertz: so it is updating now? [21:49] another screenshot with the menu http://postimg.org/image/8yvmzfzth/ [21:50] IdleOne: Indeed.. but it couldn't have been that command. I checked my terminal and I already tried that exact line 3 times before and update-manager kept crashing. [21:50] IdleOne: Nevertheless, its working just now.. strange [21:51] sometimes it is best not to ask why something suddenly works :) [21:51] just be happy it does [21:52] antagomir: Try applying your current changes, and then see if the option is available. If not, then we'll just do it via the terminal. === wilee-nilee is now known as Beldar [21:55] Jordan_U ok that did it [21:56] antagomir: OK, to confirm that everything looks good, please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l". [21:56] here the screenshot http://postimg.org/image/5b80oltux/ [21:57] pastebin [21:57] http://pastebin.com/VnrEDzum [21:58] antagomir: Great. Now run "sudo apt-get install grub-pc". When prompted, select "sda" (*not* sda1 or any other partition) as the device to install grub's boot sector to. [21:59] IdleOne: Right ;) [22:00] Jordan_U does not look promising http://postimg.org/image/bry1ayexh/ [22:01] this is after I chose /dev/sda in the first screen [22:02] antagomir: Please pastebin the output of "sudo grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sda". [22:03] antagomir: (From another terminal) [22:04] Installing for i386-pc platform. [22:04] Installation finished. No error reported. [22:06] that is all output [22:11] Jordan_U ill be right back [22:13] antagomir: I have a guess as to what the problem is, and if I'm right it's a bug with a simple fix. Your computer should now boot, but please pastebin the output of "sudo grub-install /dev/sda". I expect that it will try to install for efi, and fail since the ESP isn't mounted. === elijah is now known as elijah|away [22:19] Jordan_U output is [22:19] Installing for x86_64-efi platform. [22:19] grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory. [22:19] so only these two lines [22:22] so shall i try reboot? [22:23] does not look promising yet [22:32] Jordan_U at least to system did not boot correctly yet, I tried === gac__ is now known as gac [22:34] antagomir: What was the error message? [22:35] hmm, I did not write down. there are many screens at different stages [22:35] antagomir: Was it different than the last time? [22:35] no [22:36] i did not notice differences [22:36] antagomir: Try configuring your machine to boot via BIOS only. [22:36] ok [22:37] antagomir: If that still doesn't work, I have 1 more trick up my sleeve and then I think I've exhausted them all :) [22:43] Jordan_U i tried to set Boot option to "Legacy" from F10 menu but then i was not able to get here at all [22:43] now i returned to the Boot option = EFI Hybrid [22:43] antagomir: What error message did you recieve then? [22:44] hmm, nothing that i would have particularly noted as remarkable. i can redo and take photos [22:44] there is always more text [22:45] but basically the F9 menu did not give EFI as an option any more [22:45] and i get here only by using that [22:46] antagomir: There are two possible idiocies in your boot firmware I can think of. First, it may incorrectly assume that a drive with GPT Label is not bootable via BIOS (only true for Windows installations). Second, it may assume that a drive without a "boot flag" on any of its primary partitions in its msdos label cannot be booted via BIOS (again, only true with Windows). [22:47] hm [22:47] i have no windows [22:48] antagomir: I know. Don't you wish that firmware Vendors didn't assume that's the only OS in existance? :) [22:48] antagomir: The first is more annoying to test, so let's test the second idiocy first. Please run "sudo fdisk /dev/sda", you'll get a warning that fdisk doesn't support GPT, that's OK because we really do want to modify the msdos label. [22:48]