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asacrsalveti: so the pulse issue is fixed?00:03
asacaka00:04
asac1. Voice call not working properly after the first call (Ricardo/David H.)00:04
rsalvetiasac: yes, but not yet pushed, doing some more tests00:04
asacsure00:04
rsalvetiyes00:04
asacDavid was pinged on that one and looking with Ricardo is now focusing on that one.00:04
asacrsalveti: which component is this touching?00:04
rsalvetiandroid and pulseaudio00:04
asacany news on:00:04
asac2. Camera freezes after taking photo on Nexus 4 (which is making the camera AP tests failing) (Ricardo/Sergio)00:04
asacSergio is working on that one. Ricardo will join force on that one.00:04
asac?00:04
rsalvetinext on the list00:04
asac:P00:04
rsalvetiwe know what is locking the app, not sure why still00:05
asacballoons: made progress on:00:05
asac5. Weather and Clock apps flaky tests (Nicholas)00:05
asacNicholas hopes to be able to get the latest fixes in and release in the click store today as well.00:05
asac?00:05
perytHI, I'm trying to run ubuntu touch on samsung galaxy note 2 n7100. When i run brunch n710000:06
perytI get this  make: *** Brak reguł do zrobienia obiektu `/home/m/Pulpit/ubuntu-touch/out/target/product/n7100/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libandroid_runtime_intermediates/export_includes', wymaganego przez `/home/m/Pulpit/ubuntu-touch/out/target/product/n7100/obj/STATIC_LIBRARIES/libsecosal_intermediates/import_includes'. Stop.00:06
perytAny ideas on what to do with it ??00:06
asacperyt: in general i would suggest to set LANG=en_US :)  ... most might guess, but some might not really understand what " Brak reguł do zrobienia obiektu " means :P00:08
basketballlrsalveti,00:08
basketballlyou know how samsung has the multitasking feature split screens00:08
rsalvetino idea00:09
basketballlyou guys should add that to ubuntu touch00:10
asacrsalveti: seems this multitasking feature split screen is like sidestage00:17
asachttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHJyWiNpwhI00:17
rsalvetiright, we already have taht ;-)00:20
hozertechany one know if the mail client on ubuntu touch will work with office356 exchange?00:20
asachozertech: does that exchange version support imap?00:22
hozertechchecking...00:22
asacperyt: btw, you might want to use make showcommands to get more verbose output on whats going on.00:23
asaciirc ... havent built anything for a while :))00:24
hozertechasac: it does indeed00:24
asachozertech: yeah, then its likely. but dont build a business model around it for now :)00:25
asachozertech: also they might have an odd dialect (MS is known to be just off-standard)00:25
hozertechassac: every one seems to just a little off anymore00:25
asacalso true00:26
asacbut i think everyone senses that derailing standards has been a core, intentional strategy for MS in the past00:26
asacwhile others just dont know what they are doing often :P00:26
asachozertech: so yeah, i would say there is hope that our initial email offering will support that thingy somewhat00:27
hozertechtrue, but you could say the same for apple and sony as well00:27
hozertechi'll give it a go.00:28
asacnote that the email client isn't there yet :/ popey is the man of choice for more info afaik, but he is UK so hopefully asleep00:28
hozertechgood enough. thanks00:29
asacyw00:33
balloonsasac, weather needs rebuilt (minor packaging issue), clock is still being worked00:35
asacballoons: cool, pump weather in :)00:37
asaccash in low hanging fruits00:37
asacballoons: is weather a package? or click?00:38
balloonsasac, it's click, but the store has a review process..00:38
asacballoons: who is doing those reviews?00:38
* asac wants to ensure you get a fast track00:38
balloonsasac, for core apps it's popey00:38
asachmm. only one ?00:38
asacbut guess thats good enough.00:39
balloonsasac, sergio can as well00:39
asacballoons: want anyone to help double checking? or will you just upload and send mail so popey can approve in morngin?00:39
balloonsasac, yes popey rejected it for the pkg fix.. I'm pushing a new version which should go fine. everything else checked out00:40
asacballoons: cool. send mail and CC me plz. the more we get fixed the more coal we can put into the CI Train tomorrow morning :)00:41
asacoh ... dont CC me00:41
asacCC didrocks :)00:41
balloonsasac, plan is to have them all. I'll mail the list00:41
balloonslol asac00:41
asaceven better00:41
asacballoons: do you know how the store works? would it be simple to hook automation up to the "staging/review" pocket00:43
asacbeuno: ^^00:43
asacmaybe this is already in plans?00:43
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balloonsasac, we like to do manual verification; it's how we catch potential issues00:43
balloonsthe review for the store is the last stop :-)00:44
asacballoons: sure. we do manual validation in CI Train as well... but still do automation to support decision making00:44
asacballoons: yeah, its actually equivalent to the silo in train i figure00:44
asacthat silo currently is manual, but will get also automation soon to support00:44
balloonsasac, right.. the review is automated.. the manual bit is processing it and checking test results00:44
asacballoons: so you guys run the APs in there already?00:45
asac(manually)?00:45
balloonsasac, what would be nice is to have builders that would run on actual devices :-)00:45
asacballoons: you mean MPs?00:45
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asacballoons: we will consolidate that MP stuff all into the emulator (also for us) - except for stuff that is known to be silicon dependent like mir00:46
balloonsasac, doesn't even have to be MP's.. Could just be when we want to push to store00:46
balloonsgotcha00:46
asacballoons: yeah. i think its MPs where we want to do that and implement spomething similar to CI TRain approach00:46
asacthat community can land stuff00:46
asacon their own00:47
balloonsasac, I would certainly like it in the MP, just pointing out anything > nothing00:47
asacballoons: remind me to tackle that when we have emulator in dashboard (which hopefully is just a week or two away)00:47
asacballoons: we will do that. just remind me that you are still forgotten once you see the emulator popping up in ci.ubuntu.com00:48
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axisystostab03 device is not listed.. how do I get a sample roomservice.xml ? should I run breakfast against a know device and then edit the file?01:52
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axisysaccording to wikipedia tostab03 is related to everest.. should I just run breakfast against everest?01:54
frecelis anyone here writing html5 apps?02:02
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nijois nexus 4 decided to be primary dev phone for ubuntu touch for quite a long time???04:42
nijois nexus 4 decided to be primary dev phone for ubuntu touch for quite a long time???04:43
nijohi04:44
nijoany one here???04:44
nijoanyone here???04:44
nijois nexus 4 decided to be primary dev phone for ubuntu touch for quite a long time???04:45
nijois nexus 4 decided to be primary dev phone for ubuntu touch for quite a long time???04:52
onionchi have a question05:00
onionchi intalled the ubuntu SDK, but  when i create a new project  there are only three chioce "other project" "None-Qt project" "import project"05:02
onionchi intalled the ubuntu SDK, but  when i create a new project  there are only three chioce "other project" "None-Qt project" "import project"05:06
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dholbachgood morning07:56
MacSlowhey there dholbach07:58
dholbachhi MacSlow08:00
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liUbuntuHey I don't know if anyone can help but I flashed a Nexus4 with Ubuntu and it doesn't have any sound capabilities of any sort, what should I do? (Ie no ringtone/text notification/music output via headphones or speakers) Help please :(08:14
frecelHow did you test the sound?08:15
liUbuntuI've only tried getting the phone to play the sound via ringing it and playing music so far08:15
frecelAnd sorry but I have to ask: are you sure the sound is not turned all the way down?08:16
liUbuntuyeah I'v checked it with both hard keys and system settings08:17
freceland before you flashed the phone verything worked just fine?08:19
liUbuntuYeah I'm pretty certain it did08:19
frecelcan you put some sound file on your phone and check if it will play?08:21
liUbuntuyeah the sound files are just music from my computer files they all work fine08:22
frecelSo it's just ringtones that do not work?08:24
frecelI'm asking a lot of questions because I'm trying to narrow down where the issue is08:25
liUbuntuNo the phone just won't make any noise whatsoever, whether its ringing it or playing song or anything it's just silent08:25
frecelCan you go to settings and click on About this phone and post here what version of Ubuntu Touch you are running?08:27
liUbuntuUbunut 14.04 (r194)08:28
frecelupdate to the newest version08:28
liUbuntuOkay cheers I'll try that I've got to go in a sec so if the problem persists I'll come back later and try again, is it best to update via terminal on my computer or via the phone over wifi?08:30
nhainesliUbuntu: via phone over wifi should work, but if you're on the latest version and that doesn't work, you might want to give reflashing via computer a try.08:31
liUbuntuwhats the deal with connecting to wifi cause on the phone my options are pretty limited, the only option in the settings for wifi is a tick box to auto join previous networks.. how do I choose a network in the first place?08:32
nhainesliUbuntu: What version of Android did you have on your phone before you flashed it?08:33
liUbuntunot sure 4,4,something maybe? why?08:33
nhainesOkay, did you reflash your radio manually before installing Ubuntu?08:34
liUbuntuNo I dont think so08:34
nhainesThat's the problem then.  Update Ubuntu, and if that doesn't solve the problem, use the trusty-proposed channel.08:34
liUbuntuI've gotta go off now08:34
liUbuntucheers for your help though08:34
nhainesLatest update should fix it.  If not, come back.  :)08:35
nhainesTake care!08:35
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JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy Tooth Fairy Day! :-D09:38
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davmor2Morning all10:01
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mardyLaney: hi! I'd really recommend you to add that extra "if", because it will make the landing much easier (no need to synchronize the landing of your branch and online accounts)10:20
LaneyIf online accounts doesn't go in then you get an annoying popup because of its pageComponent10:21
Laneythe UI is still hidden by default too10:21
mardyLaney: and anyway, I think it's reasonable to expect that if a plugin want to implement the reset() functionality, it *must* implement version 2 of the interface10:21
LaneyI don't think it would be the end of the world10:21
mardyLaney: OK for this10:22
mardyLaney: still, it seems clearer to me if we disable the reset functionality unless one implements version 210:22
LaneyI was mainly trying to keep as much compatibility as possible10:25
LaneyMost plugins will want to do it in js, I imagine10:26
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ubuntuuserErrors were encountered while processing:  phablet-tools E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:34
ubuntuuserplease help11:34
beunoasac, yes, automation of reviews is far along12:10
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Mirvgatox: hi! could you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-purchase-service/+bug/1273570 that's assigned to you?13:22
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1273570 in ubuntu-purchase-service "ubuntu-purchase-service fails to run tests with Qt 5.2" [Critical,Confirmed]13:22
gatoxMirv, i'll take a look13:23
dedo93hello13:36
dedo93anyone have ubuntu on nexus 5?13:36
ograsome people do13:37
TassadarI do13:38
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dedo93with multirom?13:40
Tassadaryeah13:41
dedo93ok :) what release? it's stable?13:41
Tassadardedo93: did you see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50689471&postcount=645 ?13:42
TassadarI have latest image from trusty-proposed installed, it works pretty well. It doesn't crash or anything like that for me, but people still have problems with sound apparently, something about it only working for the first phone call13:43
Tassadarif you wish to compare it to Android, you'll probably be somewhat disappointed though13:44
dedo93i've installed the sam build13:46
dedo93*same build13:46
dedo93but is very buggy13:47
dedo93I can't open Terminal app :(13:47
ograTassadar, thats supposed to be fixed with 21213:48
Tassadaroh, yeah, that didn't work for me the first time too - try to close it and open it again (tap&hold your finger on it's previes on the homescreen a cross will show up)13:48
Tassadarogra: cool, saw it was released13:48
ograTassadar, there are fixes on the android hal side though13:49
ograyou might need to rebuild13:49
Tassadarogra: I've got a server set-up to be in sync with official trusty and trusty-proposed channels + device part built on the server13:49
Tassadarhmm13:49
Tassadarthe android parts are built weekly right now13:49
dedo93ok now works! I did the OTA upgrade13:50
dedo93to 21213:50
Tassadarogra: do you know which android project it is?13:50
ographablet-4.4.2 or so13:50
Tassadargerrit doesn't show when were they changed :/13:51
TassadarI mean, which sub-repo in that whole tree13:51
ograwhydont you just use the android source package ?13:52
Tassadar?13:52
TassadarI probably mean something different Oo13:53
ograapt-get source andriod ... fddle a bit with the target arches nad have it produce hammerhead13:53
dedo93another thing.. how can i connect to a hidden wifi?13:53
Tassadarogra: I've got it to sync with repo at https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com, is that not updated? (that's probably question for rsalveti actually)13:55
ograit is updated before we buiuld the android package from it13:55
ogra(which produces all the img files)13:55
Tassadarthen it should be fine13:55
Tassadar(I didn't even know you make package from it, I just build it like any other android repo)13:56
ogra(adding hammerhead as default to the package build is on the TODO btw)13:56
ograso in the future you can just apt-get ine binary package and fish the ready made img files out of /usr/lib/android13:56
ogras/ine/install/13:57
Tassadarhm, weird, I don't see that latest change in android package in that repo13:58
Tassadarshould be https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=aosp/platform/hardware/qcom/audio.git;a=summary , but last change to that repo was 2 months ago13:59
ograTswell, wait for rsalveti,, he should be able to tell you14:01
ogragerrit isnt really usable if you want to find a branch :(14:01
Tassadarhm, yeah. repo sync didn't pull anything new either though14:02
ograoh14:03
Tassadardedo93: I'm not sure that you can - I don't thing that the more "advanced" wifi options are in yet14:03
ograi see what goes on here14:03
ograits a packaging patch14:04
ograhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/167951517/android_20140224-0005-0ubuntu1_20140224-0005-0ubuntu2.diff.gz14:04
dedo93thank you Tassadar14:04
Tassadarwhy do you have both patches in packages and repo with custom changes Oo14:04
Tassadarguess I'll use that package then14:06
ograi guess he couldnt find someone for a gerrit review14:06
ograthat was faster14:06
rsalvetimorning14:09
rsalvetiTassadar: repo init -u https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/p/aosp/platform/manifest.git -b phablet-4.4.2_r114:09
Tassadarthat's what I did, but not everything's in there aparently14:09
rsalvetiTassadar: it should, it's also what I use to build hammerhead14:10
rsalvetiwhat do you think we're missing in there?14:10
Tassadarhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/167951517/android_20140224-0005-0ubuntu1_20140224-0005-0ubuntu2.diff.gz14:10
rsalvetiTassadar: the sound only working for the first call is hopefully fixed with the fix I pushed for nexus 4 today14:10
Tassadarwell it's a patch for https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=aosp/platform/hardware/qcom/audio.git;a=summary , but it isn't in the repo14:11
rsalvetiwe do remove a bunch of stuff from the tarball14:11
rsalvetiTassadar: oh, right, not yet14:11
rsalvetisorry, pushed as a package patch and went to sleep14:12
ograyeah, you did it as a package patch14:12
rsalvetilet me propose that right now14:12
Tassadarthat's what I wanted to know) so it'll get in there?14:12
ograrsalveti, point me to it and i'll approve14:12
Tassadarno hurry, I just don't want to be building something wrong for14:12
rsalvetiyeah, it's just that we didn't have anyone to review :-)14:12
rsalvetiogra: awesome14:12
ograseems popey is already running an image with it included14:12
ograhavent heard bad stuff from him yet14:12
popeyhm?14:13
ograpopey, 21214:13
ogrado calls work ?14:13
didrocks(he told yes already :p)14:13
ogra(especially the second and subsequent ones)14:13
didrocks(spoiler alert ;))14:13
rsalvetiTassadar: ogra: https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/#/c/190/14:14
rsalvetididrocks: :P14:14
ograrsalveti, done14:15
ogra(i think ... that UI is confusing)14:15
Tassadarit has +2, but isn't merged yet14:16
rsalvetiin theory that would be enough14:17
rsalvetiogra: did you click at publish and submit?14:17
ograright14:17
ograno ...14:17
ograthere is only "Publish Comments"14:18
rsalvetiogra: only? hm, let me check14:18
ograi have the list of radiobuttons where i selected +2 and a comment field14:18
ograand that button underneath14:19
rsalvetiyeah, your user has the authority and such14:19
rsalvetijust merged, not sure why that wasn't available for you14:20
ograweird14:20
rsalvetiwill try to track that down later14:20
Tassadarthank you, gonna start build now :)14:20
ogradont forget to pull the patch from the package with the next upload ;)14:21
rsalvetiyeah14:21
rsalvetiwill get to your other recovery patch as well in a bit14:21
ograah, sweet14:21
ograthen i can close the bug :)14:21
dedo93sorry, is there a default password for root?14:22
ograno14:22
Tassadardedo93: ubuntu doesn't have root, use sudo - password is "phablet" I think14:22
ograroot is locked on ubuntu systems, use sudo14:22
rsalvetiSaviq: just initializing m_distance is enough to fix 1285385?14:22
dedo93I'll try it, thanks14:23
ograor use adb ... that drops you in the (locked) root account)14:23
rsalvetibug 128538514:23
ubot5bug 1285385 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[qt52] SIGSEGV in QV8Engine when executing the autopilot test cases from unity8" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128538514:23
Saviqrsalveti, yeah14:23
rsalvetiwtf haha14:23
Saviqrsalveti, after that we didn't have it crash once14:23
rsalvetiSaviq: wonder if that also fixes our issue with the 5.0 stack14:23
ograrsalveti, sssh14:23
Saviqrsalveti, it actually looks like it dow14:23
Saviqdoes14:23
dedo93in adb i'm root :)14:23
ogranow that everyone works oon 5.2 landing14:23
ogradedo93, yes, thats what i said (will change soon)14:23
rsalvetiright, but I'd love to have a green dashboard14:23
ograyeah14:24
ograas long as we dont roll back the plans for 5.214:24
ograwhicle the siatuation is awful it got us some speed-up :)14:24
rsalvetino14:24
rsalvetiyeah14:24
rsalvetiwill give it a try with 5.0 to see14:24
rsalvetiogra: is 212 the latest with the pulse fix?14:28
ograyep14:28
rsalvetiawesome14:28
rsalvetiogra: the fun part of this bug is that only the start output stream path works fine, stop is broken :-)14:29
ograsilly14:29
rsalvetibut that's fine for android because the stream stays open because of audioflinger14:29
rsalvetiso it's never stopped/released14:29
rsalvetithat's why it's not a bug there14:29
ograhow do they make that handle battery usage ?14:29
ogrado they power down while having the stream open ?14:30
rsalvetiI think they power it down14:30
ograwow14:30
ograintresting that it survives that14:30
rsalvetibut you don't need to allocate the stream again14:30
Tassadarhm, I'll have to wait for 213 with that, I can't release a new image becaseu the device part has changed, because it would screw up the version numbers :/14:30
rsalvetinew image should happen soon14:30
didrocksis that linked to the "ok google" always listening?14:30
Tassadaryeah, I saw you're building 3 images a day now14:31
ogradidrocks, try it on your ubuntu touch phone :)14:31
didrocksyeah, I'm waiting for unity8 for next one14:31
didrocksogra: ahah :)14:31
ograif it wakes up when you say "ok google" it is ;)14:31
didrockswhich should let us getting current results first :p14:31
barryxnox: what's the status of doing system image updates in the emulator?14:31
rsalvetiyeah, voice call working fine :-)14:32
ogra:)14:32
xnoxbarry: good question. so generic is now published as a proper device, which matches the getprop. so things should be easier. I should go though your bugs again =)14:35
barryxnox: that would be great.  we're discussing testing system image updates and it would be great to have emulator support14:36
xnoxbarry: right.14:36
rsalvetiyeah, and we don't need to customize the emulator image much with 4.4.214:38
rsalvetiI believe with the x86 one I just added the network file, and that was all14:38
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kenvandinebfiller, i've updated the ubuntu-ui-extras MP14:54
bfillerkenvandine: thanks, I'll test it14:56
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bfillermardy, Laney: any update on getting that new syncevolution uploaded? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/syncevolution/+bug/128558315:46
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1285583 in syncevolution (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Package version 1.4" [Undecided,New]15:46
LaneyI didn't look yet15:47
LaneyIs it urgent?15:47
bfillerLaney: not urgent for today but early next week it will become more so15:47
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LaneyI'll look at outstanding FFes soon15:51
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ograstgraber, can wemake system-image somehow do the imports from cdimage in chunks (i.e. the fully supported arches first, then the others), with the recent additional arches s-i takes nearly 2h to import16:19
mptSomeday I will figure out how to power on my Ubuntu Phone without reflashing it16:21
popeympt: hold power button down?16:22
ogradid you notice the small button on the top right side ?16:22
ograpress it :)16:22
mptpopey, ogra: That just shows a battery icon for a couple of seconds, then returns to a black screen16:22
mptAlways has.16:22
popeybattery is dead16:22
popeycharge it16:22
ogrampt, mako ?16:22
mptIt’s been fully charged for days.16:22
ogra(N4)16:22
popeyfrom what charger?16:22
popeyusb port on laptop?16:22
ograyou need a proper wall charger16:23
popeyya16:23
mptpopey, an HTC mains charger16:23
ograusb ports only provide 500mA16:23
popeyhold power for longer16:23
ograyou need something around 1.5-2A to properly charge16:23
mptHehe16:23
ograright, on the N4 just hold power long enough16:23
ograit will start eventually16:23
mptThe graph in System Settings five minutes ago showed that it was fully charged. I’m pretty sure it’s fully charged.16:23
stgraberogra: not easily no, though even if we could, it wouldn't save you much as device tarballs only take a small fraction of the total time and only happen if the android package changed in between16:24
ograon the maguro (galaxy nexus) that doesnt work due to hardware being weird16:24
ograstgraber, well, i assume the diff creation for each device takes so long16:24
mptogra, I held it down for about 30 seconds. As soon as I released it, I got the fully-charged-battery icon, then a black screen16:25
stgraberogra: doubtful, though we'd need more metrics to check. Most of the diffing time is spend iterating through all the files in the tarball, since we only have 3 files in a device tarball, it should be pretty quick16:25
barryw00t!  silo landing 10 hit the archive.  the train is back on the rails16:26
* mpt uses adb reboot16:27
Laneychugga chugga16:27
barrychugga chugga woot woot16:27
barrystgraber: let's see if the managed branch gets updated16:27
stgraberogra: I've changed the crontab to run import-images in very very verbose mode by default and redirect the output to a log dir so we can see what's happening exactly16:28
ograstgraber, thanks16:29
stgraberogra: the only problem with that is that we'll get one log every 5 minutes so I'll have to remember to wipe all the small (no change) ones16:29
xnoxbarry: Wheee!16:31
stgraberogra: if I had to bet, I'd bet that the customized channels are causing the slowness as they have rather massive tarballs and all trigger whenever the main channel is updated16:31
ograstgraber, do they run alongside when a normal image is published ?16:32
stgraberogra: the problem is that we can't really work around this because the rsync from the web server is done async so we'd get corruption on the public server if we were to trigger before everything is done publishing16:32
ograaww16:32
stgraberif the update was syncronous, I could trigger it at the end of each channel when I know our fs state is consistent but that's not a possibility with the way IS' infrastructure works16:33
ograwell, i hope we can drop goldfish and maguro soon16:33
ograthat should give us some time back16:33
stgraberthat shouldn't give us anything actually16:33
stgraberbecause those use the same rootfs as the rest and don't publish new device tarballs16:33
stgraberso they effectively take around 1s to publish16:33
ograarent custom images built for all supported arches ?16:33
stgraberno, the custom tarball is per-channel16:34
ogramaguro is definitely still in that list ...16:34
ograah, k16:34
stgraberotherwise we'd be generating diffs all day long ;)16:34
ograright :)16:34
stgraberone trick we could do, but community members would probably hate us for it is to use uncompressed rootfs from the armhf builder16:35
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stgraberthat'd save us quite a few minutes of compress time on the calxeda box, not be much slower to transfer (since we have a gigabit link) and save us time uncompressing again on nusakan16:35
ograyeah not sure thats a good idea16:38
ograstgraber, i dont like the idea to work around cdimages find-live-filesystem ... will become awful to keep in sync if there are changes16:39
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Laneybarry: check your trunk to see if that worked17:29
barryLaney: afaict, it looks good, thanks17:51
Laneybest train evar17:52
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mhall119Mirv: ping17:59
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NEEDhey is there anyway to force update for ubuntu touch via the terminal?18:35
NEEDhow can I connect my Nexus 4 to wifi? I cant seem to to it since I installed Ubuntu Touch18:38
ograNEED, did it run android 4.4 before ?18:40
NEEDyeah I think so18:40
ograNEED, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation#Android4.4Radio (ignore that it is for dual boot, the issue is the same)18:41
NEEDokay thanks I'll have a look :)18:41
ogradoing an update on the terminal is done via system-image-cli18:42
ogra(add -v if you want it to print any output)18:43
bfillerrsalveti: don't know if you know about this one.. speakerphone volume on N4 now is super low18:47
bfillereven at max volume18:47
ograbfiller, any idea since when ?18:48
ograwe had two different pulse changes and the switch to android 4.4 the last days18:48
bfillerogra: I only noticed it today but haven't been testing that much since 4.4.218:49
pmcgowanbfiller, I used speaker yesterday and it was fine18:49
ograwhat images are you two on ?18:49
pmcgowanI had 210, just loaded 21218:49
bfillerogra: 21218:50
pmcgowantrying18:50
ogra210 had one pulse fix http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20140227.changes18:50
bfillerogra: but also added stuff from silo 4 to test, so hoping not related to that18:50
ograand 212 the next one ;) http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20140228.1.changes18:50
ograpmcgowan, so please check if it is still good for you on 21218:51
pmcgowannot good18:51
ograaha18:51
ograrsalveti, ^^^18:51
ograthere were changes to the audio HAL going with these fixes18:51
pmcgowanbfiller, good catch18:52
bfillerpmcgowan: glad it wasn't our change :)18:52
bfillerpmcgowan: btw, the fixes in silo-004 are really awesome. gets rid of all the wonkiness and flashing of screens when answer calls18:53
pmcgowanah cool cant wait18:53
bfillerpmcgowan: goes directly to live call view instead of first showing dialer18:53
pmcgowanright18:53
pmcgowandavmor2, wow that was fast18:54
davmor2pmcgowan: Ah no that was just the list from the old page that I updated from todays image18:56
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davmor2pmcgowan: can you actually switch calls or is it just the on hold that is implemented?19:14
pmcgowandavmor2, bfiller_afk tells me you can19:15
pmcgowanI have not tried19:15
pmcgowanI did use hold19:15
davmor2pmcgowan: yeah I test on hold I'll try it tomorrow19:15
davmor2Monday even19:16
davmor2I keep thinking it is thursday for some reason :)19:17
pmcgowanI just figured you work all weekend19:18
davmor2pmcgowan: shhh my wife might figure out that I'm testing the phone rather than just tatting with it :)19:24
pmcgowandavmor2, careful or she'll think its your girlfriend19:24
davmor2pmcgowan, popey: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArLs7UPtu-hJdDZDNWliMmV1YUJ3Zk1pQlpDdGp4VFE#gid=1 right so that is as complete as I can make it now19:24
davmor2pmcgowan, popey: if you can give it a quick review then I think we can lose the old one.19:26
pmcgowandavmor2, you probably want to keep some of the old lines, I just meant to provide additional ones19:28
davmor2pmcgowan: meh okay I thought the bulk of the were covered I'll review the 2 on Monday and see which can be merged and which need to be kept from the old list then19:30
pmcgowanok19:30
popeypmcgowan: added proxy support, do you know if that's on the roadmap?19:33
pmcgowanpopey, what is that?19:34
pmcgowansounds like something from the 70s19:34
popeypmcgowan: the thing you laughed at when we were on the sprint and said "people still use that!?"19:34
popeyyes, that :D19:34
pmcgowanat least I'm consistent19:34
popeyindeed19:34
pmcgowanno one has mentioned it19:35
pmcgowanwhere would I need that again?19:35
popeyinside corporate networks19:35
popeye.g. every company I've worked at in the last 20 years19:35
popeyalso, PAC support which goes along with it19:36
popey(the magic which autoconfigures a browser to use proxy for external sites and avoid the proxy for intranet or partner sites)19:36
popeyoh, also ☻19:39
popeysupport for captive portals19:39
popey(hotel wifi, which requires a login before going online. android and ios do that nicely)19:39
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davmor2popey: hell yes that a need after trying to connect at the airport19:42
popeyI find myself saying maguro out loud in the same way ogra says it.19:43
popeyThere's something about the way he says it.19:43
ogralol19:43
popey19:44
davmor2popey: it's the die in flames bit ogra adds to the end that makes me smile :)19:44
popeythe gutteral G19:44
popeyhaha19:44
popeypmcgowan: davmor2 have merged both sheets completely now. happy to delete the first one?19:44
pmcgowanpopey, delete the new, keep the old19:45
popeywait, what?19:45
pmcgowanpopey, dont change the url19:45
popeyoh, ok.19:45
popeydone19:47
popeytested http://bit.ly/18kIrhM in a new browser and it still works19:47
popeyhttps://bitly.com/18kIrhM+ (note the plus) is an interesting URL showing how many people click that link in the topic over the last year or so19:49
popeyaverage of about 5 people a day19:49
rsalvetibfiller_afk: pmcgowan: yeah, got that issue when testing it today as well, the first call is fine19:50
davmor2popey: I wonder how many are anonymous :)19:50
rsalvetionce it's stopped, the hal sets up the mixer again19:50
popeydavmor2: most19:50
rsalvetiand decrease the output volume19:50
pmcgowanrsalveti, seemed bad on the first call here19:50
rsalvetibfiller_afk: mind opening a bug for it?19:51
pmcgowanI only made one after upgrading19:51
rsalvetipmcgowan: first call is fine19:51
pmcgowanrsalveti, calin me a liar?19:51
pmcgowan;)19:51
rsalvetiit might have failed or something, and then used the shutdown path in pulse19:51
rsalvetireboot and try again19:51
popeyI see pmcgowan has "that friday feeling"19:51
pmcgowanindeed19:51
pmcgowanpopey, I am going to make some of the wip to mostly works19:51
popeyknock yourself out19:52
pmcgowanpopey, gee thanks19:53
pmcgowanand we should rename haptics to vibration19:53
pmcgowanI think19:53
popeyOh, that reminds me19:53
popeycan we be more selective how we trigger haptics^W vibration?19:53
popeyor is it "all or nothing"?19:53
popeythe reason I ask is that there's a vibrate when you put a call on hold and when you come out.19:54
davmor2popey: I thought they had turned it down doesn't seem as strong as it was19:54
popeythe person on the other end hears the motor buzz when you come out of on hold, and it's a touch disconcerting19:54
popeyright, less strong, but happens with every press19:55
pmcgowanpopey, good question, and I agree19:55
davmor2popey: except the keyboard where you expect it :)19:55
popeyyeah, I'd be happy with it _only_ happening in maliit19:55
popeyi dont need haptic feedback when i flip a switch, but I do need to to know my hunt-and-peck typing has registered a keypress19:56
davmor2Right I'm EOW catch you all on Monday where I'll merge some of the duped rows19:56
popeyenjoy weekend davmor219:56
davmor2popey: you too19:57
popey\o/ curry19:58
Beldar.20:07
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bfillerrsalveti: still need a bug for the speakerphone issue?20:22
rsalvetibfiller: yes, please20:22
bfillerrsalveti: pulseaudio?20:22
rsalvetibfiller: android20:22
bfillerok20:22
Stubenhockerhi! :320:25
bfillerrsalveti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android/+bug/128632220:25
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1286322 in android (Ubuntu) "max speakerphone volume is too low" [Undecided,New]20:25
rsalvetibfiller: thanks20:26
Akiva-Mobilehey i am playing around with an earlier version of touch on my nook20:28
Akiva-Mobileand I can't for the life of me find the external sd card20:29
Akiva-Mobileany hints on where to look?20:29
StubenhockerDunno...20:30
Akiva-Mobilelike, its not in /mount20:31
Akiva-Mobilethats all I can say20:31
frecelAkiva-Mobile: does it mount automatically?20:35
Akiva-Mobilefrecel: how can I tell?20:38
Akiva-Mobileatm, I can't get wifi on this fellow, and so I am trying to access files via the external sd20:40
frecelit should show up in /mnt20:41
toninhopjAlgum brasileiro?20:42
frecelAkiva-Mobile: I would install usbutils and pciutils packages and check if the system can even see your card reader if there is nothing in /mnt20:47
frecelalthough pciutils will probably not work20:47
Akiva-Mobileim upgrading from raring to saucy21:01
Akiva-Mobilewill see if that helps21:01
bfillerxnox: is this MR still applicable? https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-keyboard/clean-home/+merge/19397921:07
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xnoxbfiller: i can re-test with a non-writable home21:11
bfillerxnox: ok - seems like all the tests have been passing in CI so wasn't sure if this an issue still21:13
xnoxbfiller: yeah, it's an issue, testsuite writes outside of build directory... into $HOME, thus affecting environment on reruns and developer machines...21:23
bfillerxnox: I'll get it released then, it still merges with latest trunk?21:23
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trepidaciousMBRWhen I run ubuntu-device-flash, it just sits there doing nothing - can't see any network activity, so it can't be downloading anything, no output printed. Any ideas?21:28
xnoxbfiller: 4 months later, no it doesn't. merged fresh trunk into it.21:29
xnoxbfiller: pushed branch update.21:29
bfillerxnox: thanks21:30
pmcgowantrepidaciousMBR, what command line did you use?21:32
trepidaciousMBRubuntu-device-flash --channel devel --bootstrap21:32
pmcgowantrepidaciousMBR, sigh, the wiki page is wrong, we are updating it asap21:33
trepidaciousMBRpmcgowan: Ah, doh ;)21:33
pmcgowando ubuntu-device-flash -channel=devel -bootstrap=true21:34
pmcgowanand if its first time reboot to bootloader21:34
pmcgowanor actually to use bootstrap, need to be in bootloader21:34
pmcgowanpopey, !!!21:34
trepidaciousMBRpmcgowan: Green robot with "start" arrow thing?21:36
Laneyyou have to adb reboot bootloader otherwise it sits there saying nothing forever21:36
pmcgowantrepidaciousMBR, yes21:37
trepidaciousMBRAh, now that is doing something21:38
trepidaciousMBRThanks :)21:39
pmcgowantrepidaciousMBR, good, wiki updated21:44
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Beldar.21:54
robert1hi guys, i think i have a problem, since i've switched to trusty with "adb shell system-image-cli --channel trusty -b 0 -v" my keyboard in terminal-app cannot hit "Enter" and don't recieve updates, i have 14.04 (r194), update management say "Software is up to date", what should i do?21:54
nhainesrobert1: this is fixed in image 200 or 202.21:57
pmcgowanrobert1, 194 is the last promoted image22:01
pmcgowanwe are a bit stuck the last week or so22:01
popeypmcgowan: blimey, that wiki page is biting us more often than I thought. mwc and app showdown are pushing more people here I guess22:02
pmcgowanpopey, I just fixed a bunch of stuff22:02
pmcgowanyou can check me22:02
popeyok22:03
popeywill do22:03
robert1_sorry my chat-program has problems22:08
robert1_hi guys, i think i have a problem, since i've switched to trusty with "adb shell system-image-cli --channel trusty -b 0 -v" my keyboard in terminal-app cannot hit "Enter" and don't recieve updates, i have 14.04 (r194), update management say "Software is up to date", what should i do?22:10
robert1_should i try "ubuntu-device-flash -channel=trusty"?22:10
robert1_sorry my chat-client has problems, if someone write to me, i have not recieve something22:11
ograrobert1_, known bug, was just fixed yesterday ... but there was no image promoted to the trusty channel yet22:11
ograrobert1_, you can try to uninstall/reinstall the terminal app to get the new version22:12
robert1_ogra: hi, thanks for info22:12
robert1_ogra:  is revision 194 the newest since i have switched from saucy to trusty?22:15
ograyes, 194 is the last promoted one22:15
ogra(the unpromoted builds are at 213 currently ... still not at a quality that we can promote though)22:15
ograhttp://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/trusty/touch/ has the test overview22:16
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robert1_ogra: how can i try to uninstall/reinstall the terminal app to get the new version? i have commands for installing click-packages but not shure if it helps for uninstall/reinstall. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7012935/22:24
ograrobert1_, uuuh22:24
ograyou dont need to make the system writable for installing click packages22:25
ograrobert1_, tap and hold the icon of the app22:25
ograthat gives you an uninstall option ...22:26
ograuninstall it ... then search it with the search function, that should give you an install button ... install it ... launch it22:26
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robert1_ogra: it was very easy, it works, thank you :-)22:28
ograwelcome :)22:28
Akiva-Mobileim trying to flash an image on my nook. Thus far, the only one that has ever worked, was an old raring version of the developers preview. The initial saucy image supposedly worked, but then went into an infinite boot cycle, and which was hard to debug. I can't find the saucy image that did work, but I am curious whether I am likely to see22:41
Akiva-Mobilemore success if I use the current image.22:42
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gamble_Hello23:02
trepidaciousMBRWell it's flashed23:08
trepidaciousMBRSomewhat bewildering so far :)23:09
Akiva-Mobilewhen ubuntu touch gets rolling, will it have rolling updates?23:10
Akiva-Mobilefor os files?23:10
Akiva-Mobileah whenever I press the power button, the backlight turns on23:17
Akiva-Mobilebut I see nothing else23:17

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